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Stopped a minute and a half into the video and played the demo. Then bought the game. I think I'm in love.
You're welcome. :D
german game
#GOTY
are you still playing it to this day?
@@keithreal716 I now consider it my second favorite game of all time.
You're the first person I've seen who has appreciated the genius of the 'plant smashing' system in the game as a way to keep you constantly engaged.
Yes! The sound design for that is positively *addicting*.
My only problem with this game is the lack of cliff shading/shadows, so depth perception is pretty messed up sometimes
When I struggle with what's at my level, I just shoot a ball. If it shoots over the edge, I'm good, if it bounces, it's too high.
after 100 hours you will be able to see the elevation easily... ha haha haaa... need more jumping puzzles plz.
Sadi 100+ hours in ive completed the main game but I love it too much to put it down so I’m doing all the side stuff.
Depth perception is still screwing me where the changes in elevation should be obvious.
Spent around 20 minutes in a zone trying to figure out how to get a golden chest and realized there was a slight step I kept missing.
@@fAKSDFKamsdf just shoot balls to where you want to jump. if it bounces of its above your level :-P
I agree with your problem with depth perception. The game is still fun nonetheless.
I've been trying to say this succinctly to people for months now to get them to play this gem.
Thanks. Now I can just be lazy and link them a TH-cam video.
I don't think this video even scratches the surface as to why this game is fucking amazing. It kinda pisses me off no one is talking about it.
I wish this game wasn't so slept on. one of the best games I've ever played
This really is a masterpiece. It doesn't have that "nice but little" indie feeling, it is mastodontic and incredibly well designed.
This feels like the games we'd imagine would be arriving 25 years later, 25 years ago. Instead we're inundated with games obsessed with realism and after-sale monetization.
Oh well, at least a gem like these emerges from the rough sands once in a blue moon.
im a minute in a half in.
this is already one of my favorite games of all time and I havent even played it yet.
I had the same feeling when I saw jet set radio and Ys seven
It’s almost 2D Xenoblade esque in terms of exploration and level design, with DMC Style-Switching real time combat and Zelda Dungeons. As much of a load of buzzwords as that is, it really accurately describes what the game is and man is it such a great time.
I really hope you'll make one of these about the dungeons, that's where I think the puzzle and level design shines the most imo :)
Crosscode's level design, combat and puzzle design are absolutely fantastic.
It's extremely underrated, definitely deserves a bigger reach.
I've always seen CrossCode on GameJolt and thought of it as "That one GameJolt game that actually wants me to pay for it". After watching, I tried out the demo and I'll probably be getting it soon. Thanks so much for introducing this to me, most analysis videos cover popular games explaining what about them makes them so popular and I hardly ever see any on smaller ones like this.
Thank you for this video... it's hard to explain how satisfying it is to explore in this game, and how exploration itself becomes puzzle-driven but this is the perfect explanation. Picked it up when it released a couple weeks ago and it is so good it is consuming me in a way I haven't felt in a LONG time.
CrossCode!
[stock_children_cheering.wav]
WHOO HOOOOOO!
Crosscode!! Love this this game to death! Best game ever!
Still waiting, for two years now, after playing the old demo for hours. Still sure that it will be one of the best games ever. Those two years ago pretty much everything about the game felt perfect. Glad to see other people being enthusiastic about it!
I hope you are happy now)
Crosscode is one of the most fun games I've ever played. Definitely S tier game. I've got 100% on it and I enjoyed every moment.
Started Crosscode last week and it simply blew my mind so far, can easily rank it with all the godtier indie games. Sadly this one looks a bit more underground, wish him more exposure sooner or later...
Thank you. Your video perfectly fulfills my need for a good analysis of CrossCode.
I cannot wait till it's done, just hoping that the time it's taking to implement the story will pay off.
I can't remember the last time a game made me feel genuine FUN in the pursuit of a 100% completion.
I would love to see the towns and dungeons video, as well as any more videos on CrossCode!!! I know this vid is 5 years old lol but I absolutely love this game and just fell in love with it last year!!
Great analysis. Even though I had only played the demo for 10 mins before watching this I think you made it very easy to see the great level design in this game.
Finally, another analysis video!
I agree with all of this ! I really love the level design, combined with the music, I can endlessly scout the area for any treasures I left behind. I love this game !
optional? correct but there's another reason. This is an RPG and you need to get better gears regularly. Chests give you so much goodies that you basically never need to farm. So you either farm equipment or run around looking for chests. Also, the devs seems to be aware of speedrunning because some skips are too good to be true.
Oh man you have no idea, CrossCode is really broken lol
@@Miridia Well yeah, that's the fun. Unless there is PvP but that update probably still far away. Unrelated but another thing broken is my clicking finger. That's why I always prefer ranged attacks.
There's no other 16-bit"ish" game with such quality. Amazing game
Great video. I knew I loved this game, I just didn't know how to explain why I loved this game.
This is the game I didnt know I was looking for...
I'm pretty sure this was the video that made me first want to make a custom map renderer just to stitch together a massive map of the overworld. While I only actually made such a map of Autumn's Rise, Autumn's Fall, and Rookie Harbor since those three form a closed loop, it's still incredible to look at. There were a few discontinuities, but they're really not as common as you might think.
Wholeheartedly agree. The level design has so much depth and requires deep engagement to find treasures. Even figuring out how to get to certain planets/botanics is fun and engaging. I'm honestly considering 100% this game just because of how much fun it is to explore and find items.
I do think some of the treasures require an annoying amount of searching to obtain though. Maroon Valley for example is a good idea for how the rooms connect through different heights but it's kind of a pain when the only solution to get to a treasure in the room you're currently in is 3-4 rooms away. While I like how Maroon Valley connects its rooms together, I think its an area that definitely would've benefited from having multiple solutions to obtain treasures.
Areas like Autumn's Rise/Fall, Sapphire Ridge, Bergen Trail, or Gaia's Garden are fine because usually the solution to getting a treasure too high is in the same room or just one room away and I have no problem with those.
Yum yum soup. Ty. Found this, found the game I am liking. I bless thee, your brethren, and all seeds there from.
crystal project is a more recent title that does something similar with the map geography. the gameplay leans a bit heavier into the jump but the exploration feels just as rewarding
CC is wonderful btw
Really wish this would be ported over to consoles. I can see myself putting in a lot of hours into this kind of game.
would be awesome. i'd be more likely to play it a lot if it was on ps4. -joe
i'd love to see this hit the Switch as well
The Wii-U stretch goal was reached in the original crowdfunding campaign... a switch port seems likely.
Well it's confirmed for switch now.
There you have it. Playing on Xbox One, fucking masterpiece of a game.
When I first started playing the game, I thought there were alot o information being thrown at the player, which could get in the way of actually playing the game properly. The amount of side quests you can get when reaching the first town is huge. Thankfully, I got through that and it simply blew my mind afterwards. this game is amazing and everyone should give it a try.
I'm in the middle of my first CrossCode playthrough. The multi-layered level design is so much fun to play through. Though, if I had one complaint, it's that depth perception is sometimes unclear. This is especially the case for rooms in later areas that have several different layers, I often find myself having a hard time figuring out which layer a tile is supposed to be on. I would be curious to see if some subtle ambient occlusion or other shading would help. If done right, I think it could help the landscapes pop even more without taking away from the phenomenal spritework.
Ever since the SNES era I've wanted a game which makes such strong useage 3 dimensions. The combat is brilliant too, melee, ranged, dodging, guarding with multiple special and elemental variants for each of these all without the controls feeling confusing and trying to maintain high ranks can keep even low level combat fun and challenging.
I just got this game a while ago. Gonna go on some ‘raid’ and I can’t wait to play again!
This game is amazing.
Omg, for a second, I thought this was a review and was confused for a second anyways, at least I checked the video title, lol
I've played the original demo, the one with a mostly complete Autumn's Rise. It was amazing
This game needs more content. I literally finished it in 4 intense days, 60 hours total
You 100% in 60 hours???
Oh no, I got close, but I didn’t 100% it. I was 100%ing it for a while when playing through the story, but I stopped on that as the story got better.
That is a position I cant comperhend.
i pirated the game and made it to the part where you get the cold skills then i said "i can't anymore , i need to buy this game" and so i did , i tend to play most of the games pirated till the end but leaving most of the side stuff untouched to go back after i buy the games. But this one made me buy it after the 3rd town.
I was thinking the first area was actually awesome but the desert area with all those switches and buttons and the bunch of stuff you have to do to get to them blew my mind , i could feel that the game was made with love.
I don't know if I've ever seen such in-depth analysis of the general gameplay of a game before. Like I've seen more in-depth stuff, but it's always about one specific level, or even one specific part of level.
Check out Joseph Anderson, Novacanoo, PostMesmeric, Mark Brown, Turbo Button, Snoman, (and me). Really, most analysis videos I've watched aren't about a specific level.
I mention Joseph first because he analyzes the entire game. His videos are long and well-thought-out.
About halfway through the game, I really buckled down on finding chests. I found myself starting from the prize and working backwards a majority of the time. It's much easier to see the path that way.
A Top Down action RPG with platforming... I guess somebody got to my idea before I did. I'm really slow at trying to learn coding and game design.
Yeah but the platforming is automatic which limites the platforming possibilities and variety which is shame. This game biggest focus are still puzzle solving. Terrarigma had platforming but there was not much of variety. I think Zelda minish cap has best platforming when it comes to top down action adventure.
Alundra on the PSX did a lot of top-down platforming. It was more of a Zelda clone than a JRPG, though.
It's like Zelda: alttp, just.. in 2020.
It's fucking amazing, a masterpiece of a game.
I love this game but man I suck at it.
CrossCode is a pretty good game, i myself did a video where i beat every boss without taking damage.
holy shit that level design
SmugLea's face is the best
Play this game, its the best thing I've played since Persona 5.
Yeah more attention for CrossCode...a fine Game from a german Developor!
Just started playing it, sooooooo fucking fun
Hey man, where did you find these maps for the area's? I've been looking but can find 1 or 2.
biggest criticisms i have is alot of the obscure treasure that is behind a shit ton of hidden platforming and shit becomes outdated if you choose to save it for another time instead of engaging it around the time you first see it. i went back to bergentrail after the temple mine to find a sword at level 21 when i had reached level 26 already. i wasnt grinding just killing enemies naturally and exploring all paths and side quests i can do. i feel if they made the loot scale to the level at least to a certain cap it would avoid the problem of having done work for useless loot. and considering it gets exceedingly complex where it almost burned me out there has to be some payoff that matches the work.
Yeah, that happens. FWIW You don't really have to worry about your equipment level matching your experience level anyway; there's no reward or penalty for whether your equipment actually matches your level or not. Also, some of that gear can be used as components by certain traders to craft better gear, so it is often worth finding anyway.
Also the DLC has new 'Ascended' end-game gear that actually does scale to your level, so there is that.
Now on consoles. Cant stop plaays.
Sounds to me like they made the world itself into a giant game of mahjong~
nice vid.. thanks.
Great analysis as usual! One question: It sounds like if you accidentally fall, you'd have to backtrack quite a ways, or at the very least it'd be annoying. Is this an issue? Why or why not?
It's been a year and you're unlikely to care about an answer, but I'll still leave this here for posterity:
There are cases of falling off a ledge and wanting to hit yourself because you have to backtrack quite a bit, but that's mostly because the entire game is designed to be challenging (from the combat to the puzzles, unless you turn on the settings that make it all more friendly, you're in for exactly the right amount of frustration before you succeed). And in any case, the longer paths you can take will usually have some sort of "checkpoint"/mechanic you can trigger that allows you to get back up faster after you've been there once, like an energy wall that comes off or a booster you can turn on.
The problem I have with this game is that it is often not at all obvious what the relative height difference between platforms is.
I was looking to buy this game and now I'm thinking I might just pull the trigger
+1 to everything you said
I agree with most of your points, but I think that CrossCode puzzle design has one major flaw.
The actual rewards of the puzzles, especially treasure hunting. I mean, it is rewarding in its own to get to a hidden treasure, but I can't help but be disappointed when 9 times out of 10, the treasure itself is mostly worthless.
Most of the time, it's just some materials I could farm or buy 4-5x the amount in chest if I farmed instead of solving the puzzle and doing the platforming... And often, I just found them to be completely useless, as I've gotten what I needed through normal exploration.
This feels especially true for those most hidden treasures, which just aren't any better than barely hidden ones.
(As a disclaimer: I did not beat the game, but I have almost 30 hours in and I somehow doubt that the rewards change drastically further down the game).
The amount of bs puzzling you need to do to achieve 5x vanilla ice creams from chest is just incredible. Sometimes you get new equipment that is somehow worse than your current.
Where did you find those maps?
I like wen i find poeple that like cave story and crosscode
Is the steam version better somehow, I only got the version on gamejolt when it was free.
i loved the setting and story but an isometric "platformer" with autojump is probably one of the worst ideas i've heard of in my entire life
and the puzzles can be a little boring, the ones that get more complicated with VRP speed/slowdown and elements are cool, but a lot are just "get to correct height, throw ball at right angle, win"
The level design in the game was awesome. It's just a shame they never worked out a solid balance in the difficulty curve. You'll breeze through some dungeons with little resistance and then suddenly a poorly designed or balanced boss will kick your teeth in for a while.
CrossCode has a lot flaws that somehow not many reviewers even mentions. Most positive reviews I see just circle jerk on how amazing this game is and ignoring all the bad things.
The wave/electricity bosses definitely took me a while to beat, but I really enjoyed the monkey/whale fight tbh. They have difficulty sliders too so if you’re getting beat up by a boss you can adjust the difficult for a short time to make it more manageable.
It also depends on what you prefer I think. I know some people struggled with the puzzles in dungeons, but personally I thought they were great as-is.
Sounds more like you're just not very good. I never found any of the fights poorly balanced or designed. There are definitely points where a lot is going on screen so its hard to keep up but that was rare.
@@herrajukka cause its perfect
I really like the exploration in this game, and a little less the combat gameplay, but what I really hate are the dungeon puzzles. I gave up and started using walkthrough videos, I am bad at puzzles and CrossCode is hardcore.
My only peeve is that the element temples are TWO or THREE hours long, good gawd. The first one easily had me there for what felt like ages, haha.
thats a negative?
i remember people giving the game thumbs down because the puzzles are too hard to do (specially in the temples).
And indeed they are , i remember spending 3 days just in the cold ice element temple.
@@GatoEpico do they know there is a setting for puzzle speed? personally I don't use it, because its more rewarding to do them at full speed(although frustrating) but if you don't care then just turn the puzzle speed down
I dunno, those just sound like standard good lvl design things
which engine was used to make this game, pls let me know...
If I remember correctly, the entire game was done with HTML5 and the Impact JavaScript engine.
My only issue with this game is the excessive puzzles in temples
did you play the full version?
This game was amazing. Shame there’s no plan for a sequel. They said that it could go nowhere but I heavily disagree.
The worlds just been established to fully human ai that can interact physically with humans on an alien planet. How is that not full of possibilities?
How's the story?
love this game. So glad I waited til the full release version to buy it. The music in Bergen village is so annoying though
Bruh
Bergen village music is literally tibetian Buddhist ambience
Oh heeelll no
I can say many good things about crosscode but good level design 100% not one of it
After first location all "good level design " ends and we end with 20 minutes search 1 step to jump on higher lvl.
And it's good if that step at least in the same room
I really don't like the overworld "puzzles" CrossCode has. It's pretty much always running around the whole area til you find that one way to get up and then it solves itself. Feels much better in Dungeons, where puzzles are not only more complex, but often restricted to one room, so you don't have to run around like an idiot just to find the start.
Crosscode's dungeons are so difficult and puzzles need such precession it makes it a slog to playthrough.
12/10 rating? Seems fair, this game sure as hell deserves it but I think it might be doomed to be a cult classic. Ah, I'll just have to force it down my friend's throats until they give it a go.
I don't understand why they have two channels when they keep posting the same video to both.
This channel posts a lot of lets plays and first impressions in addition to analysis. Some people don't care about the gamplay they do, but still like the analysis. The other channel just has the analysis, for those kinds of people.
#GOTY
My god this vid is so well made, gj man.
I really love this game. However, there are 2 things i didn't like that much:
1. I love how long the dungeons are but why are they making a race out of it. I want to enjoy them, but I`m just in hurry just to realize i lost the race. Even I`m not trying to win the race, it feels weird to get out of the dungeon as the last.
2. The combat is good and all, but i wished the ranged combat were a bit slower but would make more damage. So i don`t have to click like a maniac on my mouse 😂
I never won any race, but they are also optional.
You only get different dialogues if you win or lose the races.
This is the same with the duels against Apollo.
Which I still consider to be three of the harder fights in this game...
While I'm enjoying the game, I fundamentally disagree that this kind of level design makes for engaging gameplay. Finding chests is not really a test of platforming skills or puzzle-solving as it is an exercise in running around until you find the right ledge. This quickly becomes monotonous for me. It's not a question of "am I good enough to get up there?" but rather "do I feel like spending another 5 minutes wandering around an area I've already been through 10 times?" One way to remedy this would be to add a timing element such as crumbling/moving platforms or timed switches (there are a few, but not enough). That way it becomes a skill check instead of a patience check.
It's Early Access or full game?
Esesem ssm The game is currently in Early Access (with regular updates).
Early access, but it's one of the exceptions where it's very playable and does have a big amount of content.
Brilliant level design where 90% time you have 0 depth vision and end up shooting around like a blind person just to know where u can go. The level design is very simple and poorly made. end of story.
I really cant make my mind on this one.
The vertical exploration, puzzles and combat look really good. Story and NPCs look interesting and well written as well.
On the other hand, I also sense some MMORPG elements I fucking despise... Heavy exp grinding, material grinding, and shallow hunting subquests with no lore or narrative behind. Lazy time sinks.
I really don't get it... Where is the fun in having to whack 1 million plants? Who tought that repetitive shit was fun? Just give me a good puzzle with a treasure chest at the end of it FFS. Or a hard battle with a a good item as reward.
The plant smashing is optional. There is a sidequest involving them, but it's progression based (you complete it as you progress through the game).
And what said is exactly what the game does, give you treasure with rewarding puzzles. The game's dungeons are full of them.
Sidequests have plenty subplots with their own unique areas and challenges. There are hardly any fetchquests, as far as I remember. This video only covers the environmental traversal of the overworld and doesn't at all touches on the overall experience.
"heavy exp grinding" uhh... what? The game never requires you to grind. Most CrossCode fans says that equipment matters much more than level and that holds true.
"material grinding" is optional and not required. You can just buy equipment from the shops if you want though they won't have modifier abilities.
"shallow subquests" you must've not played the game past the first town or you're just trolling lol. The game hardly has any "fetch quests" or "monster hunting" quests past the very first batch of quests you get in the game (the Rookie Harbor faction quests). Most of the side-quests are mini-games, optional dungeons, bosses, and more.
I really wonder about where these dumb takes keep coming from.
@@gamerprince-tl5hg really, henry trailblazing 9the one near the end) getting the goat on the building in bergen, a lot are pretty "go here, find this, or kill that"
@@studiogimli7645 "hardly has any" means not many.
It's quit a cool game ...the trading sucks to me
No, it's not brilliant. It is broken controls and the temple mine is the reason no one talks about the game.
Brilliant level design, but ffffffff*** the puzzles! Most of the game is timed puzzles or timed puzzles combined with platforming or timed puzzles combined with platforming combined with having to shoot targets.
...Tou know there’s a difficulty slider specificity for this right?
I just complete the game and planning play NG+ Now ,, Yes the puzzle is ridiculously HARD there is a puzzle when you make 1 mistake you must restart the entire puzzle again. I CAN'T FUCKING BEAT EMILIE BECAUSE THAT but the rest is fun and sometimes im forget that im playing an single player games, because the character dialouge is like have self aware
nah the puzzles are ez, or maybe i find them easy cuz ive been playing since the beta days XD
The puzzles are creative but the level design is awful. Nothing about them is memorable and it becomes tedious really fast.
one hour in ,to much puzzle to little fighting. I had such high hopes for this but i dont enjoy shooting at buttons 70% of the time
I don't understand this video lol. Crosscode's level design is pretty atrocious, most puzzles are already solved, you just need to backtrack the clearly pre-defined way to the chests until you find wherever you need to jump to to start the path.
I was afraid I was the only one
Those aren't the puzzles, just platforming. The puzzles involve shooting vrps, elements, timing etc(think any of the temples)
@@Anon.G they're essentially puzzles. You have to figure out a route, usually through trial and error and maybe moving around boxes. They're literally the worst puzzles I've ever experienced, but still puzzles.
@@jonathancottrill9729 might as well call the combat a puzzle then. The way the platforming works, you're supposed to just explore, and if you see a treasure nearby, you go for it.
Actively paying attention to how the world is designed to find treasures is a bad thing? And as Anon said, those aren't puzzles its simple platforming.
Who said germans can't make good videogames? ;)
no one said that, many other countries just doesnt create games as good as America,France,Japan,.. so not that many people notice when a random foreign game came out and happen to be a gem like this one
Nobody? Germany is basically Europe's own Japan.
10:19 each ledge ceiling is its own zone, notice how that bird monster reset its movement the second they went up a ledge
That was because of a video cut. That doesn't happen in the game itself.
Incorrect. The game us simply fully 3 dimensional.