Hungary vs West Germany 8-3, World Cup, 06/20/1954 Basel
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- 20 June 1954
16:50
Hungary 8 -- 3 West Germany St. Jakob Stadium, Basel
Attendance: 65,000
Referee: Ling (England)
Goals.:
Kocsis 3', 21', 67', 78'
Puskás 17'
Hidegkuti 50', 54'
J. Tóth 73' Pfaff 25'
Rahn 77'
Herrmann 81'
Who can believe that West Germany could win without steroids and referee's helping in the finale after this game? - กีฬา
Ferenc Puskas, Sandor Kocsis, Zoltan Czibor, Mihaly Lantos, jugadorazoss
Hungary 1954 and Brazil 1958 for me the best team in football history!!
Marko Bilać Thanks Marko! My Brazilian friend told same. We can say the 1974 Holland team too.
+rano0672 actually Brazil's 1982 world-cup squad is regarded the best ever!!!
can a best team lose the world cup final? Can the best team be average FIFA rank 53 since introduction of FIFA ranking? :D Brazil is a good team, Hungary had 3 good world cups (the 2 before the war, at this time World Cup was new and not to compare with today),
but if you are not over 70 please tell me, why is such a small country, over 60 years later crying and crying in EVERY video I have seen here since 2003 or so?! I get the feeling that World Cup 1954 is tought there in the 1st or 2nd class if I read all these Hungarian Names and the blabla why they won.
brazils 1982 wc team was regarded the best ever brazilian team featureing legendry footballers like zico,socrates and falcao,but unfortunate they never won the wc!!!
First! Hungary was big powerful country almost 1000 years long! (for the such a small country!) But terrible west Europeans with Jewish took Hungarian lands! Second That Hungarian team did something very special playing style in football history. People loved how they played. Pele loved Puskas! When Puskas team went to play South America they didn't want to let them go home! Can I ask when happened this with a German team? Germany can focus very well for tournaments like Italy and I give respect for this. But this Hungarian team really PLAYED this game. This is why people loved them. And this why Hungarians still cry because they deserved the world cup win. And the fucking Liebrich wanted brake Puskas's leg and the ref didn't do anything. The ref was also terrible on this game because let the Germans to do anything. And Puskas scored two with bad leg in the final but the ref didn't give the goal for the second one and after one minute when everybody thought it is 3-3! If this team really wanted play seriously they could score 6,7,8 goal to most of team. Puskas said after the 7-1 vs England they did stop play for last 15 minute because they felt sorry for England. What team could do this in History? Only one thing was true Tony Turek was amazing on that game, but Puskas still scored two! Third! I'm not 70 and hate even that the young people are saying the football was not strong that time and even Pele is not the best. Pele is the best forever in the football history and to me that is not football what they are playing today.
The German team is the only all-amateur team that ever won a World Cup. Other teams were professional Soccer Players or had a professional job as players for their country, like Hungary soldiers. The Germans fielded the best team in the Final.
Man! You don't know too much about Hungary from that time! Professional players are from Hungary that time???? :))))) They got few $ per national team match!!! You call this professional? Even Florian Albert, only one Hungarian player who won Ballon D'or in 1967, he lived in the basement!!!! Or just check the Germans shoes (great ADIDAS already). Check Puskas's shoes from that time. Please first thinking after writing! Germany had a very big lucky on this world cup. Uruguay and Brazil were also much better team.
Nem csak szerencséjük volt, hanem csaltak is, azthiszem vérátömlesztést csináltak de viszont utánna nagyon korán meghaltak.
1954 Wankdorf Stadion in Bern, 60,000 people including me. Hungary's team captain Ferenc Puskás was still not fully fit after injuries he got in the first game against West Germany in Basel. He played anyhow. Hungary's match against Brazil was brutal. An extra time tiebreaker match against Uruquay was just as brutal. Riots took place after the matches in the lockers. West Germany won with an unseeded amateur team with Adidas shoes in the prevailing weather and good foresight to play the second match with a first class team. The Hungarian team, as I remember were soldiers with paid salaries by the communist state to play soccer professionally for Budapesti Honvéd FC and for other major clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain.
The German team were amateur players as West Germany did not have a professional league. They had regular jobs to support them self.
Karl Rathgeb Wow you were there? Great respect for you! So, I have a very big question for you! Where did you sit in the stadium? According you Puskas's goal at 86 minute was offside or not? About professional: you don't think that they got any money from Hungarian army. It was only a big joke. + Puskas really didn't care the stupid army thing. He had to do it. In the communism there was not professional player. The government opened the dishes store to help them but they played card instead to care the store.:) Puskas and many other Honved player didn't go back to Hungary in 1956 because they got finally 10.000$/game on the Brazil tour and the Hungarian government wanted take off from them this money too. And Puskas said: no we keep this money finally. And the politic said: so you gonna die if you come home. The German team did great, but you said too this WC was very hard to Hungary and everything was against them. After this final the Hungarian fans were also very stupid because they were mad for this great team. We are sill crying because this final. If you have chance to buy the Puskas documentary DVD buy it. It has English subtitle and it is very interesting what a career he had. And you will know everything about this team.
Most of our players were solidiers in WW2 and there was no mayor league in Germany all of the Players were lived in poor boroughs of Kaiserslautern or in the ruins of citys like Nürnberg München Berlin etc. and you must notice that 3 Goals are very good its similar if 1860 Munich (3rd German League) would score 3 Goals against Machaster City
If a team did that TODAY, it would become a stuff of legends! (I'm talking about a team beating another team in the WC final, with whom they had met earlier in the tournament & lost to by an astonishing 5 goals!)
They were drugged.
@@a.m.armstrong8354 Are you being serious? Or are you joking?
Well, then have a closer look at the German line-up and compare it to that of the final. Their coach Sepp Herberger had deliberately given a break to quite a lot of important players because of the strange mode of that tournament (it was more likely to qualify for the quarter-finals by winning twice against Turkey than by obtaining a point from the Hungary match).
Goalkeeper was one Heinrich Kwiatkowski, his first cap ever, and several of the others hadn't played before or did so after that match.
Hungry The best team!
A Német csapát teljes szteroidok volt. Németek voltak a világ bajnokok csák szteroidok miatt. Aranycsapát volt a legjobb és legerősebb csapát mint a világ.
Hájra Magyarok!!!
Germany West and East used drugs till 1990.
The cup should be retrospectively awarded to the Hungarian people.
Unfortunately, all participants of first 3 world cups (1930, 34 & 38) are death.
And the last survivors were.......👇
(1930 WC) Francisco "PANCHO" Varallo
- Played for Argentina and was the youngest player in the tournament.
-Nick name "PANCHO"
-Born on 5th February 1910 and died on 30th August 2010 at age 100th.
(1934 WC) František Plánčka
- Played for Czechoslovakia
-Played as goalkeeper
Died 20th July 1994 at 92 years of age.
(1938 WC) Pietro Rava
- played for Italy (winners)
- left back.
Died on 5th November 2006 at 90 years of Age
Its nice to know money did not rule the game in those days!
Apparently a supercomputer has deduced that this Hungary side is the greatest ever international side. The supercomputer SAM's top 10 international sides:
1. Hungary 1954
2. Brazil 1997
3. Spain 2010
4. Brazil 2013
5. Germany 2012
6. Netherlands 1974
7. Brazil 1970
8. Argentina 2010
9. France 2000
10. West Germany 1974
Brazil 2013? How on earth are they better than 1974 Netherlands? No bias here... Seriously though how?
Ben Menko Idk how it made that calculation.
1997? Ha... Ha... 1998...
Look for Brazil 1970 and Brazil 1982... Amazing... Jesus bless you!
Well, the best team doesn't always win in a one game play-off. Another example of this simple truth: the 1984 North Carolina Tar Heels were clearly the best team in NCAA basketball that year, but they didn't even make the final (they're the best team I ever watched). I have no doubt that in a three-match series, Hungary would have won, but rain, mud, a dodgy offside decision, and Helmut Rahn spoiled the Magnificent Magyar's party on that given day in 1954.
denmark 1992
Crazy match.
I like the German football too, and many nice good teams, including the 1958 Brazil. (the best) But this Hungarian team made amazing football between 1950 and 1954. (31 undefeated game, still record) First team which won in Wembley (1953 3-6) and after 7-1 in Budapest. Nobody speaking about that game. And Puskas also told after 7 they played only for fun because they felt sorry for English players. So you think Germany won because five starting player did not play in first game? (my age is 41)
Yeah Man
Hungary revolutionised World football, as did Holland 20yrs on. Only cynical ppl trumpet German victory in the final knowing that team was drugged.
This is maybe the only final where the better team lost. Germany was a good team, but far not on that level, Hungary had one if not the best team ever. There were many factors... Puskas' injury, the rain, disallowing one Hungarian goal, drugs, worse shoes, Hungarians couldn't sleep (German fans made noise at night), the hard semi-final...
Hungary could also get a penalty (34.Minute). Many safes from German Goalie Turek. Kohlmeyer saved two times from goal line. First half Hungary shoot to the goalpost. 50 % of Refs would have decided foul from Schäfer against Grosics before the equalizer and from Schäfer against Bozsik before the 3:2. Obviously God wanted the germans to be champions in order to give them back a bit of self confidence, 9 years after WW 2.
Sorry if you thought the smart-ass too seriously. This is why I don't like making conversation on youtube. I like the real human conversation. I wrote because I thought you are somebody who really want to find something wrong about the one of the best national team in the football history. Most of people know that world cup Hungary lost. Not Germany won. It happened many time in the football history that not the best team won. Brazil and Uruguay also had stronger team than Germany in 1954.
why hungarian football was strong in those years? incredible and interesting. we ( turkey ) defeated hungary in 1957 and this match was ifentified as an important event in our football history
It was natural, Hungarians are very good at many things. (In olympic gold medals it's in the 8th place with 10 million people.) Hungary was very strong then for decades. Football was very slow, worse, it was easier. But Hungarian football didn't improve since the 50's, 60's, so it got worse and worse. In fact the Hungarian players couldn't even run so many as others in the 90's. As if they're playing in the 60's.
By 1956, morale was broken by defections and political intrigues destroying the team.
On the first match:
[22] Heinz KWIATKOWSKI (GK)
[3] Werner KOHLMEYER
[4] Hans BAUER
[6] Horst ECKEL
[7] Jupp POSIPAL
[9] Paul MEBUS
[10] Werner LIEBRICH
[12] Helmut RAHN
[16] Fritz WALTER (C)
[17] Richard HERRMANN
[19] Alfred PFAFF
On the final:
[1] Toni TUREK (GK)
[3] Werner KOHLMEYER
[6] Horst ECKEL
[7] Jupp POSIPAL
[8] Karl MAI
[10] Werner LIEBRICH
[12] Helmut RAHN
[13] Max MORLOCK
[15] Ottmar WALTER
[16] Fritz WALTER (C)
[20] Hans SCHAEFER
I don't know what are you talking about smart-ass
Mate thanks for this video. I still can't believe that Hungary now is not as good as Hungary 54'
holy shit! 8-3!
Wartorn,poor, amateur Germany 🇩🇪winning in that final is still the best &greatest achievement ever.
where are you from?
That time the Hungarian National Team got only $4-8/game from the Hungarian government!
The Hungarian government was stupid even by Stalinist standards! Other nations, including the Eastern European of that time, would have treated and pampered their outstanding football teams like conquering princes!
Director comments are bullshit - it is well known that Germany fielded a reserve side against Hungary. It worked, as next game they scored a crushing win with a rested first team.
They also injured Puskas.
Es macht mich Stolz zu sehen dass unsere Jungs gekämpft haben und auch mal zurückgeschlagen haben und das mit einer B Elf wo man weiß dass man nicht gewinnen kann
West-Deutschland 🇩🇪 VS Magyarország 🇭🇺 (WC Final 1954)
Just 9 years after the WWII got finished...amazing indeed..Germany working hard rebuilding the nation ..And Hungary in the verge of 1956 revolt against the communist regime...pieces of history indeed...
I wish Hungary can win like that these days ...
A németek szándékosan megsértették a puskákat
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O começo parece desenho kkk
I don't know how old are you and what do you know about the football and how many times you saw that final? But I let you know doesn't matter who played in the final!!! If they wanted and they play really seriously they can score 5-8 goal again. Puskas told the true: after the second goal they didn't play seriously and this is the football, if one team doing this that team can get trouble and they got, referee, rain, unlucky... They had 25-30 chance to score goal or goals!
8-3 1954+60 2014 7x1
Yes, I doubt too. Hungary just lost the lucky because they were high-minded after the second goal. But Puskas scored at 86th minute and referee and everybody thought goal but after one minute the ref said it is offside. And I also know the Hungarian team could sleep only at 5AM because of traveling before the final. And don't forget the communist Germany was the greatest drug user so we never know they might give to west a little.:) What did Turek, that was like Superman.:) +Puskas wasn't 100%
Both Germanys were big users of PED's right through to the 90's and Katrin Krabbe.
I also heard something that Germans used steroid in the final.:) They told that.:)
Vitamins
@@hanschenklein7990 If everyone used these 'vitamins' what then?! Why insult your own intelligence when German players admitted they were given drugs? Capitalist Germany couldn't be seen to lose to Communist Hungary. That was the real game.
Kwiatkovski war ein Freund von meinem Opa und er hat sich diese 8 Tore nie verziehen
Naja, Kwiatkowski war in diesem Spiel ja doch die ärmste Sau! Opfer von Herbergers raffiniertem Kniff, gegen die Ungarn mit einer halben B-Elf anzutreten (zum Beispiel eben mit einem Debütanten im Tor), weil er wusste, dass es sowieso auf ein Entscheidungsspiel gegen die Türkei hinauslaufen würde, und er einige wichtige Spieler dafür schonen wollte.
OK. Well you write now: "It happened many time in the football history that not the best team won"
Yet originally you wrote that "Who can believe that West Germany could win without steroids?"
So, which is correct, and if so, how is this video any evidence?
That is the problem I have. And I am not even German.
... The 2010 finale in South Africa was FIXED by FIFA in favor of Catholic Spain over Protestant Netherlands.
He he. They trapped them into even more overconfidence. So you think something was wrong then? Same in 1974? Wrong? Ha ha. 2014? All wrong? Ger: 4x Winner, 4x second, 4x third, 1x fourth.
XD imagine though 8-3 XD
How and why Hungary lost such high level of football since the 60's?
Because of the war
Others improved, Hungarians didn't. So the gap was bigger and bigger. Very bad system, corruption, no work...
Their very best players left during the 1956 Revolution and little was done to rebuild their winning tradition.
В е н г р и я 8 ---- 3 Ф Р Г и Ф и н а л 3 ---- 3 !!! Общий счет 11 ---- 6 !!!!! Сборная В е н г р и и становится Ч е м п и о н о м М и р а 1954 года !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, I might think you are Japanese.:) Who knows exactly about the steroids? Who knows the true I just wrote. But a few years ago I heard, a few German player told this a newspaper. I don't know true. The Hungarians people told after the game the team sold the game. I also don't believe. But I don't know which was the best German team that time. I think we can't say that that team is reserve with Fritz Walter. But we should ask a German person.
Well the way you wrote it, it seemed as if the story was proven true, and you want everyone to accept it is a fact.
And the newspaper, well you know the purpose of all newspapers - to make money.
Its easy to wait 50-55 years, because then everyone is dead, so how can the rumour be contradicted?
I doubt it is true. In sports, there is plenty of cheating, but among German teams, very little.
Start with Katrin Krabbe then work backwards. Germany invented PEDs, used them throughout WW2, used them to create the mystique of East German sporting prowess. W. Germany also had its own drug programmes.
7mumfred7. No legal action? No libel?
Da hamse eine ganz schöne Klatsche bekommen. Aber deutsche Abwehr inkl. Torwart 👎
Was war da mit der Türkei? Wo waren die Stammspieler?
Nach dem Endspiel... die deutsche Spieler mit Gelbsucht von zwielichtigen Injektionen ... a német játékosok sárgasággal, a gyanús injekciók után :-/
Este time húngaro enganou o mundo. Ganhou dos brasileiros pela zaga ridícula que teve pela frente. Hideguti e kocsis agradecem até hoje as trapalhadas amadoras registradas em filme.
And I don't know how old you are, but if you want to reason with me now, why did you first call me a "smart-ass"?
rip hungary football 2015... :(
Ja, akkor tényleg szarok voltunk, de mennyi idő telt el már azóta!!
what kind of steroid do u talking about?!that's time woesn't need any steroid for us!prefer a fair referee...!
germany fielded their reserve team
because the mission was to injure as much hungarian key player as they can
Actually the mission was to give the first team players a rest to be fit for the deciding match against Turkey...
uhhh nope
Of course. Herberger even wrote a letter towards DFB to explain this plan.
Still the german supporters were very angry with him that he did not play the first team.
Centa92
If herberger wrote about it must be true then
Let me think NO
But if you are talking shit it is more likely to be true?
Tell me, why should the German team do that? Do you think they were like "let us weaken Hungary for the final"?? That would not make any sense, because no one expected Germany to reach the final, including themselves.
Plus, in the end only Puskas picked up an injury in this game. Their quarterfinal against Brazil was much harder for them...
Ungarn 8 x 3 Deutschland B
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8 X 3
Hungary took steroids in that fixed game
Lol Germany and Steroids^^ I guess Hungary took steroids in that fixed Game
Hungarians were not on drugs. They faced the toughest possible route to the final. Why cast shade in this way when German players admitted they were drugged?
FIFA should have disqualified the germans and handed the world cup trophy to the hungarians
alex kanyima why?
@@norben1162 if you search up the 1954 WC you cann see that hungary was matched with far better teams than germany and its maybe a case that they had a false offside goal because back then hungary was communist