You can select an existing modulation as a modulation destination, to control the modulation depth using a mod source of your choice. Just press a number on the top row while selecting the existing mod routing on the matrix to set it as a destination!
Indeed, and you have been able to do this since the MatrixBrute. The "filter section confusion" complaint was also surreal - there is no confusion at all, there is full feedback out right in front of of you. This was quite a shallow "review," I am afraid.
@@AndreaPessino Agreed. I had Matrix Brute, I sold it since I was never much into SP filter and have other flagship mono/para like Matriarch and Pro 3, but there is nothing confusing about serial and parallel filtering. IF you understand signal routing in audio in general, it is clearly labeled what you are doing. Modulation destination depth comment also boggles my mind, I mean, you got flagship synth to review, and do not bother to read the manual? This is the same across MB, PB6 and PB12. Actually if there weren't for the keyboard mentioned, I would think it was 2022 and Polybrute just came out. All old features. So if you are not a keyboard player, if you don't care to actually see what's new with the synth, then just don't do the review.
wow. this at 3:40 sounds AMAZING. most important part of a music tool is that it produces that "wow factor" just based on how you feel when you hear it.
Thanks, Ricky. Great vid as always. For anyone else considering the Polybrute, everything mentioned in this video, except the Full Touch Keyboard, is available in the OG Polybrute (tho with 6 instead of 12 voices), which you can get for half the price.
But my friend the poly OG can do everything that you mentioned at half the price. The magic of the poly12 is the key bed and the 12 voices, which you didn't dive in at all.
The Norand Mono does a Morph. It's crazy good, also because you can assign an LFO to EVERY single potentiometer, I just wish they would do a polysynth, that'd be killer!
The mk3 Industrial music Electronics modules have preset morphing. You can save up to 8 presets and morph or switch between presets. Each module has its own preset storage.
An important thing to note is that the OG Polybrute is exactly as much power in your hands for a much cheaper price, let aside the new tech polyAT keyboard (which is awesome). Especially if you look at second hand.
Damn, I'm digging that wallpaper, big time. It's funny, for a second I was like "Damn I wish my Polybrute 6 had leather accents, no fair!" ... I just checked, and I totally forgot that it in fact, does lol
I have the original Polybrute. I would have to try the new Polybrute 12 in a store before I can pass any judgment on it. At that point, I would then ask myself, do I really need 6 extra voices of the same synth, or would I be better off just sticking with my original Polybrute and getting something different to add to the arsenal, that is, if I could afford it. I think I would lean toward the latter, to be honest.
I don't think the morph feature is why you would buy this synth. Melbourne Instruments Nina has Morph and also shows you the difference in sounds by moving its knobs. I would also say Nina has more timberality having 4 not bi-timberal. I actually think Nina is overall better in this area. However, no keyboard on the Nina although it does do MPE but to add this it's going to cost your more than the Polybrute 12 I think if you are looking for an all in solution 12 voice analogue poly with MPE keyboard then the Polybrute 12 ticks all the boxes. For multitimbrality and you are not interested in the MPE keyboard then I'd say the Melbourne Instruments Nina is your better option.
After selling PB6, I’m excited for PB12… but still don’t like the oscillators and filters with metalizer. Not match to my music. And lacking of Binaural / Stereo makes it no go. Only note spread for that money. Would love to see poly loner new binaural what Oberheims have to offer. With all Arturia programmability and multi-instantiated VST 😊
@@chrisstaubynyes, but panning voices vs sequential notes is different. I like what they did in OB-X8…. especially now price is getting close. Even OB module is less than PB12. OB-Xa is what I was looking to recreate with PB the first place (please don’t mention b-word in this discussion 😂)
@@chrisstaubyn ikr! If I’d play ambient and knew more chords I’d been be happier with it. My problem is to play lead, arp, tunes in stereo. PB voice spread is only by placing note to left and the next one to right. Dedicated knob is good but widening “spread” just makes you more dizzy. I’d rather use 6 voice unison to spread when you touch just one note key (or 12 will be heaven! and assigning something to full touch would be a bonus). Same deal with filters panning. I got PB6 first day available, trade in about a year ago. Do you have PB? Did they add more voice spread features other than those two?
Ackshually… it’s not “cheap LEDs” causing the flashing in the video, it’s your choice of frame rate and/or shutter speed on your camera. Ricky you really should know this.
Does Arturia say that is real leather or fake leather? If it is real then that is a bad move, as there are people who won't buy it simply because of that. In photos it is hard to tell, and I see nothing about it on their website.
@@defenderstargate1447 I just checked my original Polybrute and it feels more like a faux leather texture than real leather to me. Could be wrong though.
The PolyBrute could do morphing years before Nina. Keep in mind that the PB12 is not a new synth, just a PB6 with twice as many voices and that fancy MPE keyboard.
I have a Nina and love it. My favorite synth since the Virus. Once the Polybrute 12 arrives I will MIDI up the two and see what kind of sonic madness I can create with 2 mighty morphing synths !
I would say so. Filter 1 has feedback that can drive quite huge levels into filter 2 which has its own analog distortion. Then there is wavefolding, OSC FM, filter FM and some digital distortion FX at the end. So it can get pretty nasty, but it's not its strong point. Organic sounding pads and keys is what it does best.
Awesome synth BUT I would suggest the original Polybrute is equally impressive whne you count bang for buck. The extra polyphony is cool but the original has all the same modulation abilities and control functions. Definitely worth picking up if you see one on a reselling site
Given that they back-ported receiving MPE on the PB6, I find myself really grateful to Arturia and also not feeling like I’m missing anything from the PB12 (aside from voices).
Beware buying online. I just got a Polybrute on Reverb and the seller did a horrible job at packaging it. Been writing emails for over a week now trying to get a return and refund over shipping damages. Also can't get it to tune since the VCO calibration failed on me. Arturia support has been god awful at actually helping me diagnose and troubleshoot problems since any detailed question I ask gets completely ignored with obviously canned responses,. Its a very VERY bad look for someone like me who invested thousands in Arturia products.
I have arrived at an opinion: I think the SUMMIT is a FAR BETTER value in dollars than the 12. I am assuming that you cannot upload wave tables to the 12? SUMMIT does this PRIMARY THING: it can sound Glorious & Regal. The 12 is gadget-laden, true. For half the price, and personally WANTING Regal and Glorious, I vote SUMMIT. I know, I was MR SUPER GEMINI kills ‘em ALL on Sonics, but… POOR FOLKS HAVE POOR WAYS. SUMMIT!! VERY VERY ANALOG
Great Vid Ricky... 🧡 The Polybrute 12 is a BEAST!!!... ~ Would love to see a list of beginner / intermediate user synths that are a little different & wacky than the normal ones mentioned on those types of lists... ( Also maybe ones at various budget levels etc?... )
Would love to see this vs Peak (probably closer to Summit?) - (excluding the playbility features like morph/morphe, keybed, etc). (aside, I think the LED flicker is due to your camera shutter speed vs LED refresh rate - kind of like watching a car tire spin fast, looks like it's moving backwards). Oh and completely unrelated to this video - but did you see NE released a firmware update for Gamut especially for you after your feedback video! Wild! 😀
i love how they mimic the cs80 every step of the way. The air vents on the back and the "missing" ribbon :D Idk is it the stupidest thing or just pure fun
It fits on a stand with other synths, with no extra space needed for the stand , so, same real estate with or without this synth on the stand... Agreed, faux wood is cheesy as all get out, and the beige would not be my choice ,,, but it is the ability to be a performance tool where this brings home the bacon..
Learn to play chords if you wanna review synths lol. Also, that "morph" knob exists on the very synth behind your back - Pro 3. Now, literally all the things you are pointing out as pros were available on Polybrute 6. The big upgrade is keyboard.
@@fortheloveofnoise I do not mean nothing bad by it. But if you want to get free gear, create content and review synths, especially that are focusing on actual keyboard expression and play, you better be on point with the things you are saying, because you influence people's opinion. I don't mind Ricky not being a virtuoso pianist, in fact, my comment about chords was a pun on him saying himself that he still doesn't know how to play chords :)
absolutely agree - the man did not go into the very things that make this synth special. He complained on price point even though poly OG is at half the price and can do exactly what he went over on this vid…
Came here to say that about the Pro 3. Beat me to it. But good reminder that I have criminally under-used that really wonderful synth. Off to play now.
@@synthshed plus, you can chose what do you want to morph. This feature from the latest firmware upgrade really shines the best when you morph between the two patches you deliberately built with morph in mind, although random stuff can be awesome too
You can select an existing modulation as a modulation destination, to control the modulation depth using a mod source of your choice. Just press a number on the top row while selecting the existing mod routing on the matrix to set it as a destination!
It seems he didn't read the manual, lol.
@@chrisstaubyn he “works for Elektron, Sequential, Novation” doesn’t have time to read the manual.
Indeed, and you have been able to do this since the MatrixBrute. The "filter section confusion" complaint was also surreal - there is no confusion at all, there is full feedback out right in front of of you. This was quite a shallow "review," I am afraid.
@@AndreaPessino Agreed. I had Matrix Brute, I sold it since I was never much into SP filter and have other flagship mono/para like Matriarch and Pro 3, but there is nothing confusing about serial and parallel filtering. IF you understand signal routing in audio in general, it is clearly labeled what you are doing. Modulation destination depth comment also boggles my mind, I mean, you got flagship synth to review, and do not bother to read the manual? This is the same across MB, PB6 and PB12. Actually if there weren't for the keyboard mentioned, I would think it was 2022 and Polybrute just came out. All old features. So if you are not a keyboard player, if you don't care to actually see what's new with the synth, then just don't do the review.
@@AndreaPessino as an owner of both the Polybrute and Matrixbrute, I can confirm your statement. The feature does exist in both.
Modulation can be modulated!!! I think you missed that. Plus you can modulate effects parameters. This thing is DEEP!!
Talking of deep, the deepmind 12 has that. Adds so much more expression
I bought the Polybrute noir as my once in a lifetime synth purchase, one payment to go, it hasn't disappointed!
Same.. but i can’t help but want double the voices
6:30 the LEDs flash because your camera's shutter speed is out of sync with their frequency, not because they are cheap. Nice review either way
trust me, I tried EVERY shutter speed down to the decimal. I could not get them to sync lol
@@RickyTinez It only means none of the frequencies you had at your disposal matched the LED frequency.
A youtuber with an honest review, and not calling every synth the greatest instrument of all time. Much respect and great vid!
10:10 Of course you can. Hold one button in the upper row and press the matrix button whose depth you want to modify.
You can hold the settings button and move any parameter to get to the settings for it-no need to remember numbers.
wow. this at 3:40 sounds AMAZING. most important part of a music tool is that it produces that "wow factor" just based on how you feel when you hear it.
Thanks, Ricky. Great vid as always. For anyone else considering the Polybrute, everything mentioned in this video, except the Full Touch Keyboard, is available in the OG Polybrute (tho with 6 instead of 12 voices), which you can get for half the price.
I want one...but instead of buying this for 4000, I just bought a car for 5000.
😅
"If you can afford a pickup truck, you can afford a synthesizer!"
ha ha, best music quote ever :) But get a 2nd hand PB for 1300... I did. Result. And save up for the car repair bills too :)
the car will be worth nothing in a year think about that....
Thanks for showing it, hope you keep it!
This was so helpful - thank you!
But my friend the poly OG can do everything that you mentioned at half the price. The magic of the poly12 is the key bed and the 12 voices, which you didn't dive in at all.
Exactly, you the hit the nail on the head there.
The Norand Mono does a Morph. It's crazy good, also because you can assign an LFO to EVERY single potentiometer, I just wish they would do a polysynth, that'd be killer!
great review! synths with a mod matrix are cool. I like the turn the knob and assign at the mod matrix feature.
The mk3 Industrial music Electronics modules have preset morphing. You can save up to 8 presets and morph or switch between presets. Each module has its own preset storage.
An important thing to note is that the OG Polybrute is exactly as much power in your hands for a much cheaper price, let aside the new tech polyAT keyboard (which is awesome). Especially if you look at second hand.
God damn! This synth sounds incredible!
Damn, I'm digging that wallpaper, big time.
It's funny, for a second I was like "Damn I wish my Polybrute 6 had leather accents, no fair!"
... I just checked, and I totally forgot that it in fact, does lol
will be avaible just a desktop module?
Nice review. Synth master ❤
the modx/montage both have smart morph for fm and the montage m has it for the entire board now. i get your point tho. its a super awesome feature!
Any suggestions for hardware starters at half the price? I've been using VST synths for the past few years and want to explore some hardware options.
5:35 what does that mean Wave folding? whats that??
Not bad! … bloody amazing beautiful
Clavia Nord Leads also had a patch morph feature, but they aren't real analogue.
Cheers. People seem to forget Nord has been doing Morph since the first Lead in '95 😄
the Clavia Modular G2 has one of the most robust and mindblowing morphing features you will *ever* see. I want one. Now.
Give the Osmose a go. Next level AT
I love you Ricky Tinez! ❤
LXR 02 morphs between patches!
Thing is a beast and I want one so bad.... but my 3rd Wave would get lonely. 😆
I have the original Polybrute. I would have to try the new Polybrute 12 in a store before I can pass any judgment on it. At that point, I would then ask myself, do I really need 6 extra voices of the same synth, or would I be better off just sticking with my original Polybrute and getting something different to add to the arsenal, that is, if I could afford it. I think I would lean toward the latter, to be honest.
This vs the Moog One! Go! 😂 Thing looks dope af. Btw, what lav mic are you using? 😊
If a has 3 modulations and b has another different 3 modulations，how wold they morph to each other? Is the patch converted to a 6 mod patch?
Yes
I don't think the morph feature is why you would buy this synth. Melbourne Instruments Nina has Morph and also shows you the difference in sounds by moving its knobs. I would also say Nina has more timberality having 4 not bi-timberal. I actually think Nina is overall better in this area. However, no keyboard on the Nina although it does do MPE but to add this it's going to cost your more than the Polybrute 12 I think if you are looking for an all in solution 12 voice analogue poly with MPE keyboard then the Polybrute 12 ticks all the boxes. For multitimbrality and you are not interested in the MPE keyboard then I'd say the Melbourne Instruments Nina is your better option.
After selling PB6, I’m excited for PB12… but still don’t like the oscillators and filters with metalizer. Not match to my music. And lacking of Binaural / Stereo makes it no go. Only note spread for that money. Would love to see poly loner new binaural what Oberheims have to offer. With all Arturia programmability and multi-instantiated VST 😊
@@samprock the Polybrute can voice in stereo and also pan via the filters.
@@chrisstaubynyes, but panning voices vs sequential notes is different. I like what they did in OB-X8…. especially now price is getting close. Even OB module is less than PB12. OB-Xa is what I was looking to recreate with PB the first place (please don’t mention b-word in this discussion 😂)
@@samprock ironic because the Polybrute has more voice-panning options than the aforementioned counterparts above.
@@chrisstaubyn ikr! If I’d play ambient and knew more chords I’d been be happier with it. My problem is to play lead, arp, tunes in stereo.
PB voice spread is only by placing note to left and the next one to right. Dedicated knob is good but widening “spread” just makes you more dizzy. I’d rather use 6 voice unison to spread when you touch just one note key (or 12 will be heaven! and assigning something to full touch would be a bonus). Same deal with filters panning.
I got PB6 first day available, trade in about a year ago. Do you have PB? Did they add more voice spread features other than those two?
@@samprock the Polybrute can do what you're saying.
Lol, "congratulations, it now sounds aweful " @ 7:52
Ackshually… it’s not “cheap LEDs” causing the flashing in the video, it’s your choice of frame rate and/or shutter speed on your camera. Ricky you really should know this.
This is kind of why I love him though
I'm still thinking: 3rd wave plus Rise2
Sorry to be a dick, but the singular of "axes" is "axis."
That DX200 morph knob was capable of some of the weirdest sounds imaginable…real shame Yamaha did nothing with that.
"Boring analog sound." LOL. Fun review with a good and frank set of pluses and minuses.
Maybe “If Behringer Pro-800 had more routings”?
I'll bet you wouldn't trade your 3rd WAVE for the ART 12.
Does Arturia say that is real leather or fake leather? If it is real then that is a bad move, as there are people who won't buy it simply because of that. In photos it is hard to tell, and I see nothing about it on their website.
What leather are you referring to?
@@chrisstaubyn on the end cheeks just below the wood. the OG polybrute has it as well.
@@chrisstaubyn At 30 seconds in he says it has leather and wood sides. It is that darker part towards the back of the sides.
@@defenderstargate1447 I believe he's refering to the tolex material.
@@defenderstargate1447 I just checked my original Polybrute and it feels more like a faux leather texture than real leather to me. Could be wrong though.
seems cool, but i can't get past it's looks or the colour, so i bought a Super Gemini.
Ricky, the Melbourne Audio NINA did the Morph thing before this. Just FYI
The PolyBrute could do morphing years before Nina. Keep in mind that the PB12 is not a new synth, just a PB6 with twice as many voices and that fancy MPE keyboard.
@@higherself7129 I own both. The Polybrute was released before the NINA.
I have a Nina and love it. My favorite synth since the Virus. Once the Polybrute 12 arrives I will MIDI up the two and see what kind of sonic madness I can create with 2 mighty morphing synths !
@@RayyMusikquite a few synths offer morphing.
Not bad??? This synth is incredible sr martinez
so, I guess this pitches against the mood one?
The supermax add-on for DX7 does patch morphing. Not as many knobs as the arturia;-)
Does it do dirty sounds well
I would say so. Filter 1 has feedback that can drive quite huge levels into filter 2 which has its own analog distortion. Then there is wavefolding, OSC FM, filter FM and some digital distortion FX at the end. So it can get pretty nasty, but it's not its strong point. Organic sounding pads and keys is what it does best.
"boring analog sound" is wild lol
Awesome synth BUT I would suggest the original Polybrute is equally impressive whne you count bang for buck. The extra polyphony is cool but the original has all the same modulation abilities and control functions. Definitely worth picking up if you see one on a reselling site
Given that they back-ported receiving MPE on the PB6, I find myself really grateful to Arturia and also not feeling like I’m missing anything from the PB12 (aside from voices).
Beware buying online. I just got a Polybrute on Reverb and the seller did a horrible job at packaging it. Been writing emails for over a week now trying to get a return and refund over shipping damages. Also can't get it to tune since the VCO calibration failed on me. Arturia support has been god awful at actually helping me diagnose and troubleshoot problems since any detailed question I ask gets completely ignored with obviously canned responses,. Its a very VERY bad look for someone like me who invested thousands in Arturia products.
Saw your thumbnail and thought I was high, And then I remembered that I don't smoke weed.
Nord Lead's do morph in the 90s lol
Its a nice synth no doubt but you need a lot of space to give it credit
Meh, get a Yamaha MODX. It does all that morphing stuff, sounds incredible with a ton more flexibility and around a grand to buy.
I have arrived at an opinion: I think the SUMMIT is a FAR BETTER value in dollars than the 12.
I am assuming that you cannot upload wave tables to the 12?
SUMMIT does this PRIMARY THING: it can sound Glorious & Regal.
The 12 is gadget-laden, true.
For half the price, and personally WANTING Regal and Glorious, I vote SUMMIT.
I know, I was MR SUPER GEMINI kills ‘em ALL on Sonics, but…
POOR FOLKS HAVE POOR WAYS.
SUMMIT!! VERY VERY ANALOG
Great Vid Ricky... 🧡 The Polybrute 12 is a BEAST!!!... ~
Would love to see a list of beginner / intermediate user synths that are a little different & wacky than the normal ones mentioned on those types of lists...
( Also maybe ones at various budget levels etc?... )
me the rev2 with 16 voice no cap
Would love to see this vs Peak (probably closer to Summit?) - (excluding the playbility features like morph/morphe, keybed, etc). (aside, I think the LED flicker is due to your camera shutter speed vs LED refresh rate - kind of like watching a car tire spin fast, looks like it's moving backwards).
Oh and completely unrelated to this video - but did you see NE released a firmware update for Gamut especially for you after your feedback video! Wild! 😀
i love how they mimic the cs80 every step of the way. The air vents on the back and the "missing" ribbon :D Idk is it the stupidest thing or just pure fun
In a week, you'll have the Muse instead.
Broski!
Can I summarize this as "impressed but not in love"?
Boom that’s a great way to put it. Im more excited for the synths that come out after with this tech installed
The price is ridiculous...
Honestly its not worth the price..its quite big for not much.. tried it few hours and ilm not impressed at all
I should not have watched this. I should NOT have watched this…
After a while cutoff dial.
It's a fantastic synth that would be great to have... but only if I win the lottery or something.
I don't have $4000 or a place to put this beauty, but thanks for the review.
do a payment plan and make that space !
@iwillnevergetone5 the money could be gotten, the space will have to wait. And then do I get this? The ps 3300? 3rd wave? All the beauties
@@jeffhammel4305 i feel ya. i've gone through a few of the cool synths over the past couple years as well. gotta try 'em all
Do i _need_ it.. no... Have i ordered it.. Yes, yes i have.
Liked and subscribed. Hope I win!
The fuax wood, beige, and huge foot print are giving 1989 Dodge Caravan 🤢🤮
It fits on a stand with other synths, with no extra space needed for the stand , so, same real estate with or without this synth on the stand... Agreed, faux wood is cheesy as all get out, and the beige would not be my choice ,,, but it is the ability to be a performance tool where this brings home the bacon..
It's real wood.
@@chrisstaubyn thanks for clarification.. cool beans...
Nice paperweight
😳
@@fortheloveofnoise Ricky called his hardware synths paperweights after commenting on the functionality of software synths on a video. Lol
Great vid as always!
But this thing sounds like crap.
hehehehehe
release another video of just playing no talking 🙏
dude you look so upset haha is it because it blew up your subwoofers? It sucks but I’m sure Arturia will compensate you
most likely Arturia will ket you keep it and we’ll have another video about how you changed your mind about the poly12!
Learn to play chords if you wanna review synths lol. Also, that "morph" knob exists on the very synth behind your back - Pro 3. Now, literally all the things you are pointing out as pros were available on Polybrute 6. The big upgrade is keyboard.
who cares...let the man be
@@fortheloveofnoise I do not mean nothing bad by it. But if you want to get free gear, create content and review synths, especially that are focusing on actual keyboard expression and play, you better be on point with the things you are saying, because you influence people's opinion. I don't mind Ricky not being a virtuoso pianist, in fact, my comment about chords was a pun on him saying himself that he still doesn't know how to play chords :)
absolutely agree - the man did not go into the very things that make this synth special. He complained on price point even though poly OG is at half the price and can do exactly what he went over on this vid…
Came here to say that about the Pro 3. Beat me to it. But good reminder that I have criminally under-used that really wonderful synth. Off to play now.
@@synthshed plus, you can chose what do you want to morph. This feature from the latest firmware upgrade really shines the best when you morph between the two patches you deliberately built with morph in mind, although random stuff can be awesome too
meh…