Very happy to have been a Saturn owner in the '90s. I have a very healthy collection of the majority of what folks ga-ga over, but at a fraction of the modern cost. Oh, for the days when stacks of Guardian Heroes were on clearance at Toys R Us for $5 a piece, and they even still had NES stuff on clearance at the same time...
I remember when the X-box 360 first came out ,everything was so cheap! I had seen a Turbo Grafix with a stack of games for like $35 at a goodwill! And nintendo game were $1 a piece!
I was a Manager at Toys r Us back during the time most of these released so I had instant access to these Saturn titles the store was in redwood city Ca 3 exits away from Sega of America headquarters. We always had sega people in and out of the store and got some real good information on what was going on with the company.
That’s cool. I kinda was in the same boat with Frys. We always had an inside scoop on what was coming out with companies like Apple. Kinda cool to have official inside info. 🤪
They were always at odds with upper management and of course Sega of Japan the, reps wanted the Japanese games localized and managment thought it was a bad idea. I for one was importing games from Japan so I couldn't understand their reasoning. I actually pushed the saturn at my store that's probably why they liked visiting the store it's because of them I was able to get the final four games that were released at the end of the Saturn's life you know them as panzer dragoon saga, burning rangers,shining force 3, and house of the dead. Out of all the reps such as Nintendo and Sony they were my favorite.
In a world where we can easily and effectively emulate Saturn games with official Saturn controllers no less buying any of these games is less about pursuing quality titles and more about collecting artefacts. As a previous collector I remember how addicting that next high could be in completing a library. That being said, Dragon Force is the best Sega Saturn game for sure.
In a strange way, collectors have ruined the once-fun hobby of collecting due to chasing up prices to ridiculous levels. Now I just want to play the games and I don't care about what I have on my shelf anymore.
I have this game for my old Power Mac. I have a soft spot for puzzle heavy fmv games. Through The Eyes of The Monster and Star Trek Borg are both my favorites. 7th Guest is good. The Journeyman Project 1-3 are amazing!
It's on the PC as well. Heck, usually a lot of these sorts look better on the PC. Like House of the Dead at twice the resolution and.. around 10 dollars.
Ha! I have the Working Designs Sega Ages (purchased it back when they released it) and also have each individual game from Japan (purchased much later) just because I am insane. Also I had no idea there was a longbox version of Virtua Fighter Remix.
@@SegaLordX Where can I get the English translations of Shining Force 3 that I believe you had in one video? I would love the entire trilogy in a complete set instead of settling for just part one.
I always love hearing about the kind of things you put into your "THE TRULY STRANGE" category. So little of that sort of thing ever happened outside of Japan, so it's always fascinating to hear about it.
I sold my entire system back when the xbox came out to my best friend. I told him to save it because it was special. I knew it would be worth a fortune one day. Had die hard arcade and dragon force and a few other gems. Man i wish I kept that thing. But i have a new console but as im not wealthy i wont be getting those gems again.
Another awesome video! So glad I collected the Saturn when stores were clearing them out. I couldn't imagine paying the prices some of these games go for now.
Because that's what they're actually worth. Very few of these games are "rare", pricing has absolutely nothing to do with rarity. Just look at what happened to Earth Bound. It was sitting at around 600$ a game, and then rocketed into the ground and isn't even worth 50$ anymore. Resellers are absolute garbage.
This is why I stopped collecting Saturn games years ago. The price vs gameplay value is so tilted. I got the games i wanted and got out. I got my Pebble Beach Golf Links with Craig The Walrus Stadler and that's all I need.
It's funny that although I have no care for Golf, whether playing IRL or watching on TV, I LOOOOVE this game. I happen to have a huge (280+) Saturn game collection CIB (having many of these ridiculously overpriced titles), just because I was like the only SEGA nut back in the day --but even with all the incredible Saturn games to choose from, I often find myself playing Pebble Beach Golf Links when I want to unwind from a hard day at work. I think it might be the simplicity of play, and the background music just makes this such an inviting and relaxing game. And it also happens to be a great competitive party game, we sometimes make wagers on shots.
Really great episode. Please do a part 2! It is crazy how popular Saturn has become with collectors now. I can not even find crappy sports games for under $30 locally, if I find saturn games at all.
Excellent episode!! This is the best "pricing guide" episode I have ever seen and you're honest no b.s. approach to telling it how it is a breath of fresh air!! Totally agree with you across the board on all opinions expressed. MORE, more episodes of this type would be awesome!! Cheers, SLX! 🤘
I'm currently about 25 hours into Shining: The Holy Ark and can recommend this title to anyone who is into classic dungeon crawlers. Well worth mentioning here!
There are a lot of perpetual commons and ones that no cares or hears about that go for $50 or less CIB, certainly loose. Practically anything good in this range are like first party Sega games.
Dragon Force was the first game I ever had a 10+ hour marathon with. When I was 16 years old, if I didn't leave the house on a Saturday night, I had to be playing a GOOD game. Dragon Force was just that good.
@@Sega_Dreams I beat dragon force in 3 days because my sega saturn quit saving the game. I played for like 12 hours each day. I had to leave the sega saturn running the entire time lol
Thankyou sega lordx i added a sega saturn with a terraonion mode, an action replay cart, a levelhike hdmi upscaler 256gb sd card, a retrobit sega saturn controller and a virtua arcade stick to boot. All thanks to your videos! Even though i had no experience with a sega saturn as a kid in the 90s it is now my favorite video game console of all time! Its going to provide my daughter and i memories for years to come! Thankyou so much for your content segalordx!!
Definitely make a part 2! these videos are to be catalogued as a way to get a better field of view for pricing. Because I am going to collect Sega Saturn as well and I need more of these. Another great video man.👊💥✌
So glad I was a Saturn fan back when the system was still on shelves. I own a nice selection of these rare games, and paid only $10-$56 (with tax) to buy them. Panzer Dragoon Saga, Burning Rangers, Magic Knight Rayearth, all $56 (with tax), and definitely the rarest games I own. Dragon Force and Guardian Heroes, probably $35 (with tax), my friend left Saturn Bomberman (just the disc) at my house, and then stopped talking to me, and never asked for it back, so I got it for free. Looking forward to a part 2 in this series.
I could imagine a scenario playing out like this: "Hey guys, I just got paid 2 grand!" "Oh man, that's cool! What are you gonna buy? A car? A new watch?" "Ohh, I was thinking of buying Eyeful Home and Heim Waltz on the Sega Saturn!" "Wow! Those must be some pretty cool games, considering their price!" "Well... You basically spend the whole game 'walking' through low res FMV's in houses in random houses." "Oh...."
Most of my Saturn games i paid under 40 USD. The most expensive was the US version of Sega Ages Volume 1 costing me about 93 dollars shipped. Those prices are from four years ago. I use to spend kinda crazy money on retro video games especially the ones i had as a kid. I pretty much have all the physical retro games i want titles i will enjoy and appreciate for years to come. Great video as always.
Love your videos as usual! So much nostalgia and info I actually get excited when I see you post a new one! Thanks for the hours of entertaining content!
Hell yeah, you not only showed one of the most OP general moves (Holy Shield), you also picked a fight that had the best fight music. Dragon Force may well be my favorite game of all time. If it were ever released on virtual console--anywhere--I would buy the console purely to play it. I love the game THAT much.
Dragon Force II has a full translation, btw. The sequel kinda' lacks the charm and excellent map/pacing design of the first, but it's graphically superior, has new mechanics and units, and it's still a very enjoyable game.
I have the import and played through it years ago. I figured out the commands but as far as the dialogue goes I was out of luck. Looking into obtaining a translated copy now. Much appreciated.
I´ve just realized that some Sega Saturn games are as expensive as Neo Geo games. Keep those videos coming. Rare & Expensive Sega Saturn Games part 2 in 3, 2, 1 ......... now.
Great VIDEO. I'm fond of the Sega Saturn. My sister brought me Saturn Bomberman for $5 in 1996. Me and my boys still play it today. I always told her that the prices were going to skyroocket. Great channel and great memories. Still shocked about dragon force. Another GEM.
I adore this channel. Seriously. Only a channel like this I can get Sega related content this well articulated. These vids are the highlight of my week. Hearing that Batman theme at the end. You do it nice, brother. Definitely do a second episode. Keep doing what you do, SLX
About Frankstien Through The Eyes of the Monster I will give you a big money saving tip: Just go to an Abandonware site and play the PC version legally for free. Honestly even as a fan of point and click games it was mediocre and tedious. The only good thing about was Tim Curry's performance.The Sega Saturn version is just a scaled down letter-boxed port of the PC game.
I love your channel, especially Saturn games and hard to find Dreamcast games. Never got a chance to get a Saturn so I’m living through your experiences
Back in 2015 I purchased a complete long case of VFR, for 90 dollars. Crazy how the price jacked up in just 5 years. Thank you for another good, and insightful video SLX!!!!
I came here to comment exactly this. NBD if Sega Lord doesn't know this, but Tim Curry is a cult classic movie star people who love quirky things will pay big money to see.
Some of the games you mentioned like Power Slave or SOTN, I can't believe they hiked the fuck up prices overtime. They were fairly cheap something like between $45 to $65 pre-internet talks about them, this is amazing.
Great video, and thank you for pointing out that quite a lot of these games simply don't justify their current asking cost. There is a total lack of rationality in current Saturn retro collecting prices. I was extremely fortunate to buy a Saturn back in the late 90s just as the system was on its way out, which provided me a great opportunity to buy many games at original MSRP (ex. Marvel Super Heroes, Street Fighter Collection) and others even at a hefty discount (House of the Dead for $20 in a clearance bin). I also managed to do some other collecting on eBay in the late 2000s before prices went through the roof. Honestly, channels like yours and especially "most expensive games / hidden gems" videos like this are a double-edged sword: thanks to you and other TH-camrs, gamers everywhere have finally come to realize how full of hidden, console-exclusive gems the Saturn library really was. The downside is that this same awareness triggered a bidding war from completionist game collectors with more money than good sense, and they have put these classics out of reach for the average gamer. I remain hopeful that maybe future digital releases of some of these games (Saturn Mini? Saturn game compliation for newer consoles?) might finally bring prices down and make collecting these possible for gamers of average means. In the meantime, thank you for shouting some sense into the heart of the whirlwind that "There is no good reason to pay $800 for Daytona USA: Netlink Edition!"
Thankfully i kept my Saturn and 95% of the games i had with it and everything i bought knew is still virtually mint, apart from Panzer Dragoon Saga which i picked up for £87.00 every other ive purchased has as a retro collector has been from Japan even buying some as back up copies for my PAL games as they are just so darn cheap.
Ive seen power slave many times. It looks like a game id love. It seems imaginative, and in that respect i feel as though it would remind me of how i felt playing games like timesplitters back in the day. I need to find out if my uncle still has his saturn... id buy that thing for whatever price he wants. Saturn was always cool as hell to me. Also, love the arcade music in between segments! Hit me in the nostalgia with altered beast and golden axe.
I love Powerslave! It is probably the only Saturn game in which the lighting effects are better than they are on the Playstation version. It was the first 3D shooter game that I remember playing in which you could look up and down.
Yes, please do a part 2 to this video. I really enjoyed it. I wasn't able to get a Saturn as a kid because it was so expensive ( lol, my father just laughed at me when he seen how much the Saturn cost) but my wife got me one a couple of years ago CIB no less for a great price and so finally I can experience this legendary library of games. I actually stumbled upon Sega Ages at my local retro game shop last year and got it along with Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2 all CIB and in mint condition for well under market. Sega Ages is the pride of my Saturn collection and a fantastic game but it is most definitely not worth spending $200 on. I picked up a replay ram card and I'm fixing to start importing since the PAL and Japanese versions are far more reasonable in price........mostly.
Wonderful episode, one rare Saturn import that came to mind was 'Big Thanks Super Keirin 50th anniversary Not For Sale Version' although not as expensive as some of the other games on your list.
Another key strategy for collectors is to be patient when scouring Ebay for finds. Every once in a while, you will find a rare title for a very low price that somehow gets ignored by bidders. I also recommend buying “disc only” titles, whoch may be notably cheaper. I bought a disc copy of Worldwide Soccer 98 for $10, while the boxed copy goes for $40. If you see a bargain like that, go for it. Finally, don’t forget that CD-R is an option, especially for super rare classics like Powerslave. Keep looking to collect your library, but don’t miss out on playing old videogames. This also applies to fan translations such as Shining Force 3 Trilogy, Policenauts and Sakura Wars.
I was very fortunate to get into the Saturn at an ideal time, when the import prices weren't insane, and the US retail market still had a lot left on the shelves if you knew where to dig. I've had or have most of what's on your list, and while I sold off some that I miss, I still consider my Saturn collection my favorite slice of gaming, despite being very into current gen stuff. Fun video!
Had no idea about Final Fight Revenge. I may have to seek one out because Final Fight is a favorite series of mine, and Revenge just looks so goofy and over the top. I really enjoyed this video. I’d love to see a Part 2.
My mom worked as a cell phone dealer (this was early 90s so it was a big deal then) in 2 different malls. One of her stores was right next to an "Electronics Boutique" the other was 3 stores down from a "Software ETC". Needless to say, when I'd have to go with her when she worked night shift, and stay as a kid I'd be in those stores and the arcades. I eventually pre-ordered a dreamcast in 1998 but I had the Saturn before. Marcus was the name of the manager at the Software ETC and he told me to wait a week and the Saturn games would be cheap. Well, they were. I got so many games for ~$100 (My lawn mowing money). I even had doubles of some titles. About a month after that, Marcus came into my mom's store with another one of his guys with a rolling cart and 2 big cardboard boxes. They were full of Saturn games. He asked me if I wanted them and to give him an offer. We left that day with all those games for $150. I had to borrow money from my mom. I guess they weren't selling even on closeout, so he just took what he could for them since they were already considered a loss. There was every rare game in there you could think of. I still have 10 sealed copies of PDS from that day. MKR, MMX4, MM8, etc... This story isn't a unique one either. These games aren't that rare. People just hoard them and mess with the "market".
Quite happy that I still have my copies of Shining and the Holy Ark, Guardian Heroes and Panzer Dragoon Saga. Wish I had bought Dragon Force all those years ago though.
Sold my copy of Daytona Net-Link Edition to the Immortal John Handcock to help complete his collection. He posted a video about it with good information on concerns with collecting older cd based media. I think he was happy with the purchase (and so was I $$$)
Savitor him and metal Jesus cocks are hurting the retro gaming community, selfish people. Hope you sold that game for $1000 any less and you got robbed! 😂😂😂
shanobian MJR has been known to ask people to just give them their rare game consoles even though they are selling to him at a fair price. He’s been known to make videos to ask him fans for money like a road trip to buy an RV and go game hunting and like for his fans to pay for the basement that’s got water damage. Plus the guy never gives anything back to his fans. The dudes a slim ball.
I'm so glad that I own several of the titles mentioned. Mostly glad that I bought them new and never sold them. Saturn Bomberman, Working Designs Sega Ages, Street Fighter Zero 3, Super Tempo, and Blast Wind are just a few I bought new in the 90's and kept. I would not dream of paying the asking prices now.
Dood!! What a great episode. You create the most amazing content, week after week. I’m indebted to you for the rest of my life for giving us such amazingly well thought out and wonderful editing and voice overs. Thank you so much man. Please give a part two. I was going to ask before you ever even thought of asking us if we wanted it. ;-)
The fact that I sold my huge Saturn collection with most of these games for cheap to buy a Dreamcast on lunch date makes me sick :P. If only the younger me knew...
@@DeathToJihad It's true that some are but that's not the point. It's the childhood memories we have that's associated with these games and the desire to play them again. When those games turn prohibitively expensive to get back you kick yourself for ever letting them go in the first place. Like many other collectors I'm trying to hunt down the games I had as a kid as well as expand my collection overall. Many of us realized that we would regret selling off our old games to get the new releases after some or even a lot of these games had already been lost to us. We realized replacing them would be an enormous and possibly expensive task. I personally stopped selling my games off during the PS1 era but others took a bit longer. Looking up these games now and seeing that they're more expensive than ever ( especially for systems like the Saturn) is a real kick to the gut. For a lot of us collecting is about re-experiencing childhood memories and even sharing these with our children. Not so we can say "Yeah, I got this $500 game sitting on my shelf at home."
I kinda feel you man, except i could buy everything again later. Keep looking out, you can get the console itself for not THAT much and at least some games are halfway affordable. Funnily enough, i sold my SNES with like 5 games to buy my saturn, used and pretty much at the end of it's lifetime. Everyone had a Playstation or an N64 back then, so i figured i could always play those with them, i wanted the console i couldn't play anywhere else. In the long run, i'm happy i did it, because obvious reasons. I bought Panzer Dragoon Saga on launch day and it still sits proudly on my shelf, and Panzer Dragoon Zwei even got played for the first time by my sister and her husband a few weeks back, and both were so hooked that they had to play it through.
Great vid! Please do a part 2 as there a bunch of other games you missed. Some games I'd like to see covered include; Winning Post, Battle Sport, Maximum Force, Megaman X3 (PAL), Dragonball Z The Legend (PAL), Three Dirty Dwarves, Herc's Adventures, and Batman Forever The Arcade Game.
Don't forget *Hyper Duel* - a beyond perfect arcade port (with extra stuff for home). It's a horizontal shooter by Technosoft, I believe their 2nd or 3rd arcade title, and the Saturn port feels really beefy and powerful, like a thoroughbred arcade shmup from the era. Has the legendary developer's typically stylish menus, HUD, and overall strong level, weapon, and enemy design. Worth tracking down.
*Guardian Heroes* - like so many Treasure games - is best known for its amazing 2D character control, super precise collision/hitboxes/ability interaction, creative enemies and boss encounters, and outstanding co-op play. The 6-player vs. mode with a massive roster of playable characters that you unlock in the campaign is a sweet cherry on top, and the game's multi-plane 2D adds immensely to the strategy in this battle mode. If your first GH experience was on Xbox using the Xbox 360 controller's absolutely disgusting d-pad, you didn't quite enjoy it as intended - and your perception of control and gameplay was likely compromised.
Oh yes, please parts 2, 3 and........................!! Would be cool to see you mention repro games that allow the physical experience without breaking the bank. Thanks for all the amazing content.
Resellers helped sparked the expensive prices we see today for consoles like the Saturn, the PC Engine, and the SNES. They are also slowly doing it for the Genesis too.
*The Shining Force 3 trilogy* is wonderful. Great for any SRPG fan, and orgasmic for fans of the series. There's also a superb fan translation for Chapter 2 and 3.
Thank you so much for your advice. I also have final fight Revenge. I realized. it was so special because it's the last game ever made for the Sega Saturn.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree with the views on Frankenstein here. I think the game is very good and while adventure games like that are certainly not everyone's cup of tea, calling it a "bad game" is simply not true. Might be worth a deeper look to appreciate it sometime in the future.
I'm a Sega Saturn gamer and collector. I really hope you do another part to your Rare and Expensive Sega Saturn Game video. There were other Sega Saturn games that sold late in the Saturn life, especially 4 games I know of that Sega knew they were going to sell at a limited number of those games and sold at a higher price. Those games included Shining Force 3 (Scenario 1. Scenario 2 & 3 were never sold in the US), Burning Force, Magic Knight Rayearth (I enjoyed this game a lot, especially part where you find "embarrassing" images of one helpful character on the game) and Panzer Dragoon Saga (which I believe is currently the most expensive of the final four games). Chances are you may find these games out there at a more reasonable prices in either Garage Sales, Swap Meets or Flea Markets as an alternative to eBay. I'm just saying.
4:40 There's Frankenstein collectors in the Horror community. I only know this because there's a $50 Frankenstein Anime on VHS that also has no reason to be that expensive.
😅😅Thank the lord for Yaba Sanshiro and the Nvidia Shield 2017!! No way in hell would i ever pay anything close to those asking prices, but your video is ultra informative as always👌🏾👌🏾👏🏽👏🏽
Why is this such a good channel?
Because of great supporters like you. :)
@@SegaLordX keep up the great work. Love it
@@SegaLordX love your channel!!! Love SEGA.
This has quickly become one of my favorite gaming channels!
@@SegaLordX You and SNES Drunk should do a video together. ✌🏾
Very happy to have been a Saturn owner in the '90s. I have a very healthy collection of the majority of what folks ga-ga over, but at a fraction of the modern cost. Oh, for the days when stacks of Guardian Heroes were on clearance at Toys R Us for $5 a piece, and they even still had NES stuff on clearance at the same time...
I remember when the X-box 360 first came out ,everything was so cheap! I had seen a Turbo Grafix with a stack of games for like $35 at a goodwill! And nintendo game were $1 a piece!
I was a Manager at Toys r Us back during the time most of these released so I had instant access to these Saturn titles the store was in redwood city Ca 3 exits away from Sega of America headquarters. We always had sega people in and out of the store and got some real good information on what was going on with the company.
Cool info! Could you share some thought of the Sega employees in the Saturn's days?
That’s cool. I kinda was in the same boat with Frys. We always had an inside scoop on what was coming out with companies like Apple. Kinda cool to have official inside info. 🤪
They were always at odds with upper management and of course Sega of Japan the, reps wanted the Japanese games localized and managment thought it was a bad idea. I for one was importing games from Japan so I couldn't understand their reasoning. I actually pushed the saturn at my store that's probably why they liked visiting the store it's because of them I was able to get the final four games that were released at the end of the Saturn's life you know them as panzer dragoon saga, burning rangers,shining force 3, and house of the dead. Out of all the reps such as Nintendo and Sony they were my favorite.
This makes me so glad I hoarded every Saturn game I could in the late 90s early 2000s.
In a world where we can easily and effectively emulate Saturn games with official Saturn controllers no less buying any of these games is less about pursuing quality titles and more about collecting artefacts. As a previous collector I remember how addicting that next high could be in completing a library. That being said, Dragon Force is the best Sega Saturn game for sure.
In a strange way, collectors have ruined the once-fun hobby of collecting due to chasing up prices to ridiculous levels. Now I just want to play the games and I don't care about what I have on my shelf anymore.
"I can think of no other reason why this game sells for this kind of money." //Starring Tim Curry//
EXACTLY!
When he said that I was thinking, "Really? REALLY?! It's bloody obvious."
I have this game for my old Power Mac. I have a soft spot for puzzle heavy fmv games. Through The Eyes of The Monster and Star Trek Borg are both my favorites. 7th Guest is good. The Journeyman Project 1-3 are amazing!
It's on the PC as well. Heck, usually a lot of these sorts look better on the PC. Like House of the Dead at twice the resolution and.. around 10 dollars.
@@CaptainRufus did you see the beta? :)
Ha! I have the Working Designs Sega Ages (purchased it back when they released it) and also have each individual game from Japan (purchased much later) just because I am insane. Also I had no idea there was a longbox version of Virtua Fighter Remix.
Hey, at least the Japanese OutRun has the extra music they nixed from the US release.
Nice flex, Joe!!
@@SegaLordX Where can I get the English translations of Shining Force 3 that I believe you had in one video? I would love the entire trilogy in a complete set instead of settling for just part one.
I always love hearing about the kind of things you put into your "THE TRULY STRANGE" category. So little of that sort of thing ever happened outside of Japan, so it's always fascinating to hear about it.
Dragon Force is truly a gem, I still have my original copy, never sold it, and don't plan on selling it unless i got an insane amount lol
I sold my entire system back when the xbox came out to my best friend. I told him to save it because it was special. I knew it would be worth a fortune one day. Had die hard arcade and dragon force and a few other gems. Man i wish I kept that thing. But i have a new console but as im not wealthy i wont be getting those gems again.
Another awesome video! So glad I collected the Saturn when stores were clearing them out. I couldn't imagine paying the prices some of these games go for now.
At one point these were in a bin for a few dollars.
Because that's what they're actually worth. Very few of these games are "rare", pricing has absolutely nothing to do with rarity. Just look at what happened to Earth Bound. It was sitting at around 600$ a game, and then rocketed into the ground and isn't even worth 50$ anymore. Resellers are absolute garbage.
@@bud389 Saturn prices are going down sooner than expected if they keep this kind of price.
@@bud389 Not sure if you're talking about the same earthbound that I'm thinking of, but loose cartridges go for about $150
@@bud389 I'll take 25 copies of earthbound for $50...
@@itsmikhail4056 no, they don't. If you have an unopened box with everything included in very good condition, maybe.
This is why I stopped collecting Saturn games years ago. The price vs gameplay value is so tilted. I got the games i wanted and got out. I got my Pebble Beach Golf Links with Craig The Walrus Stadler and that's all I need.
It's funny that although I have no care for Golf, whether playing IRL or watching on TV, I LOOOOVE this game.
I happen to have a huge (280+) Saturn game collection CIB (having many of these ridiculously overpriced titles), just because I was like the only SEGA nut back in the day --but even with all the incredible Saturn games to choose from, I often find myself playing Pebble Beach Golf Links when I want to unwind from a hard day at work. I think it might be the simplicity of play, and the background music just makes this such an inviting and relaxing game.
And it also happens to be a great competitive party game, we sometimes make wagers on shots.
Get the japanese versions and an action replay
Really great episode. Please do a part 2! It is crazy how popular Saturn has become with collectors now. I can not even find crappy sports games for under $30 locally, if I find saturn games at all.
Already have the outline for a part 2. We'll see how this one does.
I traded in around 30 Saturn games at Luna video game store in San Diego.
Great video man keep up the good work 👍 I was kinda hoping to see Panzer Dragoon Saga here on this list but Im glad you're making part 2
One of your finest videos to date in my opinion. PLEASE do a part 2!
There’s a lot of games missing do a part 2 asap!!!
Excellent episode!! This is the best "pricing guide" episode I have ever seen and you're honest no b.s. approach to telling it how it is a breath of fresh air!! Totally agree with you across the board on all opinions expressed.
MORE, more episodes of this type would be awesome!!
Cheers, SLX! 🤘
I'm currently about 25 hours into Shining: The Holy Ark and can recommend this title to anyone who is into classic dungeon crawlers. Well worth mentioning here!
I bought a Saturn just so I could play Shining the Holy Ark and Albert Odyssey
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Awesome! I think you'll have a great time :)
@@hyznth No, this was ten years ago. I've already played them
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme I see :)
is it on steam?
At least I know when my life goes off the rails, I can trade my Saturn games for heroine at the prices they fetch.
Or maybe trade in heroine for Saturn games... 🤔
@Jason U It's obvious that he meant heroine rather than smack
What's the strength of the heroine though? Warrior Princess or mild mannered Disney Librarian?
I'd rather buy a plane ticket to Amsterdam and try out the different prostitutes and "coffeeshops" there.
Heroin*
Rare & Expensive Sega Saturn Games: The entire US collection minus like five games.
There are a lot of perpetual commons and ones that no cares or hears about that go for $50 or less CIB, certainly loose.
Practically anything good in this range are like first party Sega games.
Dragon Force is my favorite game of all time.
Same. I love dragon force. I might have to buy it.
Dragon Force was the first game I ever had a 10+ hour marathon with. When I was 16 years old, if I didn't leave the house on a Saturday night, I had to be playing a GOOD game. Dragon Force was just that good.
@@Sega_Dreams I beat dragon force in 3 days because my sega saturn quit saving the game. I played for like 12 hours each day. I had to leave the sega saturn running the entire time lol
I remember Sega Saturn magazine giving it raves reviews but for some reason I never thought to pick up a copy ☹️
Does anyone know of any game like Dragon Force on any system? Is DF 2 worth it and is it easy to play it in the states?
This is such a great channel, great content and highly informative 👌
Thankyou sega lordx i added a sega saturn with a terraonion mode, an action replay cart, a levelhike hdmi upscaler 256gb sd card, a retrobit sega saturn controller and a virtua arcade stick to boot. All thanks to your videos! Even though i had no experience with a sega saturn as a kid in the 90s it is now my favorite video game console of all time! Its going to provide my daughter and i memories for years to come! Thankyou so much for your content segalordx!!
Great video! As always. This channel truly is a TH-cam's treasure
Thank you for the kind message. It's always good to hear.
@@SegaLordX keep doing what you are doing brother. We need more video game historians like you in TH-cam!
Definitely make a part 2! these videos are to be catalogued as a way to get a better field of view for pricing. Because I am going to collect Sega Saturn as well and I need more of these. Another great video man.👊💥✌
As always, very well done sir. Makes me again, start collecting. Great work
So glad I was a Saturn fan back when the system was still on shelves. I own a nice selection of these rare games, and paid only $10-$56 (with tax) to buy them.
Panzer Dragoon Saga, Burning Rangers, Magic Knight Rayearth, all $56 (with tax), and definitely the rarest games I own. Dragon Force and Guardian Heroes, probably $35 (with tax), my friend left Saturn Bomberman (just the disc) at my house, and then stopped talking to me, and never asked for it back, so I got it for free.
Looking forward to a part 2 in this series.
I could imagine a scenario playing out like this:
"Hey guys, I just got paid 2 grand!"
"Oh man, that's cool! What are you gonna buy? A car? A new watch?"
"Ohh, I was thinking of buying Eyeful Home and Heim Waltz on the Sega Saturn!"
"Wow! Those must be some pretty cool games, considering their price!"
"Well... You basically spend the whole game 'walking' through low res FMV's in houses in random houses."
"Oh...."
Imagine paying someone monthly on patreon for making amatuar youtube videos , oh...
Very nice one mate!
"Yeah, I just paid a $1000 to walk around in some Japanese strangers house.."
"wat?"
Most of my Saturn games i paid under 40 USD. The most expensive was the US version of Sega Ages Volume 1 costing me about 93 dollars shipped. Those prices are from four years ago. I use to spend kinda crazy money on retro video games especially the ones i had as a kid. I pretty much have all the physical retro games i want titles i will enjoy and appreciate for years to come. Great video as always.
PDS and Radiant Silvergun were the first that immediately came to mind when I saw the title.
I'll definitely cover them in a part 2 if I do one. They are so popular on the system I wanted to focus on others here.
I bought them both when they came out and still have them. Do I win a prize?
Love your videos as usual! So much nostalgia and info I actually get excited when I see you post a new one! Thanks for the hours of entertaining content!
Hell yeah, you not only showed one of the most OP general moves (Holy Shield), you also picked a fight that had the best fight music.
Dragon Force may well be my favorite game of all time. If it were ever released on virtual console--anywhere--I would buy the console purely to play it. I love the game THAT much.
I still get the old Saturn out and play through my copy of Dragon Force about once a year. Fantastic game.
I want to game with you bro
Dragon Force II has a full translation, btw. The sequel kinda' lacks the charm and excellent map/pacing design of the first, but it's graphically superior, has new mechanics and units, and it's still a very enjoyable game.
I have the import and played through it years ago. I figured out the commands but as far as the dialogue goes I was out of luck. Looking into obtaining a translated copy now. Much appreciated.
I´ve just realized that some Sega Saturn games are as expensive as Neo Geo games.
Keep those videos coming.
Rare & Expensive Sega Saturn Games part 2 in 3, 2, 1 ......... now.
What did you think of the format? Would you like part 2 to follow a similar style?
@@SegaLordX Yes definetly especially with the cover art and the price tag on the left side.
@@SegaLordX Yes. I like the subcatagories.
The "truly strange" category was fascinating, would love to see more of that.
Great VIDEO. I'm fond of the Sega Saturn. My sister brought me Saturn Bomberman for $5 in 1996. Me and my boys still play it today. I always told her that the prices were going to skyroocket. Great channel and great memories. Still shocked about dragon force. Another GEM.
Topic is certainly worthy of another episode. Thanks for the research and production, Sega Lord X.
I adore this channel. Seriously. Only a channel like this I can get Sega related content this well articulated. These vids are the highlight of my week. Hearing that Batman theme at the end. You do it nice, brother. Definitely do a second episode. Keep doing what you do, SLX
Thank for that man. I need to hear it sometimes.
I own a bunch of those. Glad I got them when they cost under $50. Thanks for the show!
I’ve still got my Saturn and games i loved and played back in the 90’.
Awesome video SLX, I'm glad someone out there covers Saturn games and Sega games in general.
About Frankstien Through The Eyes of the Monster I will give you a big money saving tip: Just go to an Abandonware site and play the PC version legally for free. Honestly even as a fan of point and click games it was mediocre and tedious. The only good thing about was Tim Curry's performance.The Sega Saturn version is just a scaled down letter-boxed port of the PC game.
I love your channel, especially Saturn games and hard to find Dreamcast games. Never got a chance to get a Saturn so I’m living through your experiences
Back in 2015 I purchased a complete long case of VFR, for 90 dollars. Crazy how the price jacked up in just 5 years. Thank you for another good, and insightful video SLX!!!!
I just watched this and despite not being a collector, seeing what's out there is very interesting. I would love a part 2.
I feel like that I'm better off buying all these games than paying the university system thousands of dollars!!
At the very least, you're more likely to get a return on your investment
Loved this one ! Definatly need an episode 2 right here , right now !!
I have binge watched almost all of your videos. You definitely have quality content 👍 keep it up!
No mention of the most sought-after Sega Saturn game. Panzer Dragoon Saga 🤨.
Ikr! I just said that myself.But he still showed tons of footage of it in this video....Hmm.
Check out the part 2 he’s made!
I have a copy that is pristine.
I thought it was Burning Rangers?
We definitely need a part 2!! Please! Love all your videos man!
I enjoyed this video, but you definitely left a few out for a part 2. I'd love to watch it!
Maybe placing Tim Curry in that Frankenstein game made it shoot up in price lol
I came here to comment exactly this. NBD if Sega Lord doesn't know this, but Tim Curry is a cult classic movie star people who love quirky things will pay big money to see.
Yeah!!! U read my comment and made a video of it!!!!!
Hats off to u man!!!
I try and read them all. I'm always open to suggestions.
Some of the games you mentioned like Power Slave or SOTN, I can't believe they hiked the fuck up prices overtime. They were fairly cheap something like between $45 to $65 pre-internet talks about them, this is amazing.
Great video, and thank you for pointing out that quite a lot of these games simply don't justify their current asking cost. There is a total lack of rationality in current Saturn retro collecting prices. I was extremely fortunate to buy a Saturn back in the late 90s just as the system was on its way out, which provided me a great opportunity to buy many games at original MSRP (ex. Marvel Super Heroes, Street Fighter Collection) and others even at a hefty discount (House of the Dead for $20 in a clearance bin). I also managed to do some other collecting on eBay in the late 2000s before prices went through the roof. Honestly, channels like yours and especially "most expensive games / hidden gems" videos like this are a double-edged sword: thanks to you and other TH-camrs, gamers everywhere have finally come to realize how full of hidden, console-exclusive gems the Saturn library really was. The downside is that this same awareness triggered a bidding war from completionist game collectors with more money than good sense, and they have put these classics out of reach for the average gamer.
I remain hopeful that maybe future digital releases of some of these games (Saturn Mini? Saturn game compliation for newer consoles?) might finally bring prices down and make collecting these possible for gamers of average means. In the meantime, thank you for shouting some sense into the heart of the whirlwind that "There is no good reason to pay $800 for Daytona USA: Netlink Edition!"
Thankfully i kept my Saturn and 95% of the games i had with it and everything i bought knew is still virtually mint, apart from Panzer Dragoon Saga which i picked up for £87.00 every other ive purchased has as a retro collector has been from Japan even buying some as back up copies for my PAL games as they are just so darn cheap.
Ive seen power slave many times. It looks like a game id love. It seems imaginative, and in that respect i feel as though it would remind me of how i felt playing games like timesplitters back in the day. I need to find out if my uncle still has his saturn... id buy that thing for whatever price he wants. Saturn was always cool as hell to me.
Also, love the arcade music in between segments! Hit me in the nostalgia with altered beast and golden axe.
I love Powerslave! It is probably the only Saturn game in which the lighting effects are better than they are on the Playstation version. It was the first 3D shooter game that I remember playing in which you could look up and down.
Yes, please do a part 2 to this video. I really enjoyed it. I wasn't able to get a Saturn as a kid because it was so expensive ( lol, my father just laughed at me when he seen how much the Saturn cost) but my wife got me one a couple of years ago CIB no less for a great price and so finally I can experience this legendary library of games. I actually stumbled upon Sega Ages at my local retro game shop last year and got it along with Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2 all CIB and in mint condition for well under market. Sega Ages is the pride of my Saturn collection and a fantastic game but it is most definitely not worth spending $200 on. I picked up a replay ram card and I'm fixing to start importing since the PAL and Japanese versions are far more reasonable in price........mostly.
Wonderful episode, one rare Saturn import that came to mind was 'Big Thanks Super Keirin 50th anniversary Not For Sale Version' although not as expensive as some of the other games on your list.
You've got my vote for part two. You're my go to for Sega info.
Another key strategy for collectors is to be patient when scouring Ebay for finds. Every once in a while, you will find a rare title for a very low price that somehow gets ignored by bidders. I also recommend buying “disc only” titles, whoch may be notably cheaper. I bought a disc copy of Worldwide Soccer 98 for $10, while the boxed copy goes for $40. If you see a bargain like that, go for it.
Finally, don’t forget that CD-R is an option, especially for super rare classics like Powerslave. Keep looking to collect your library, but don’t miss out on playing old videogames. This also applies to fan translations such as Shining Force 3 Trilogy, Policenauts and Sakura Wars.
I was very fortunate to get into the Saturn at an ideal time, when the import prices weren't insane, and the US retail market still had a lot left on the shelves if you knew where to dig. I've had or have most of what's on your list, and while I sold off some that I miss, I still consider my Saturn collection my favorite slice of gaming, despite being very into current gen stuff. Fun video!
Had no idea about Final Fight Revenge. I may have to seek one out because Final Fight is a favorite series of mine, and Revenge just looks so goofy and over the top.
I really enjoyed this video. I’d love to see a Part 2.
Great video, it deserves a sequel.
Yeah blood you know that. :)
My mom worked as a cell phone dealer (this was early 90s so it was a big deal then) in 2 different malls. One of her stores was right next to an "Electronics Boutique" the other was 3 stores down from a "Software ETC". Needless to say, when I'd have to go with her when she worked night shift, and stay as a kid I'd be in those stores and the arcades. I eventually pre-ordered a dreamcast in 1998 but I had the Saturn before. Marcus was the name of the manager at the Software ETC and he told me to wait a week and the Saturn games would be cheap. Well, they were. I got so many games for ~$100 (My lawn mowing money). I even had doubles of some titles. About a month after that, Marcus came into my mom's store with another one of his guys with a rolling cart and 2 big cardboard boxes. They were full of Saturn games. He asked me if I wanted them and to give him an offer. We left that day with all those games for $150. I had to borrow money from my mom. I guess they weren't selling even on closeout, so he just took what he could for them since they were already considered a loss. There was every rare game in there you could think of. I still have 10 sealed copies of PDS from that day. MKR, MMX4, MM8, etc... This story isn't a unique one either. These games aren't that rare. People just hoard them and mess with the "market".
Still waiting on a Saturn Mini. Forget the Dreamcast, pretty much all of the good games for it have already been ported to other platforms.
Good luck waiting
Another great video. Looking forward to Part 2!
Dragon Force was pretty addicting. I brought it for about 70 ten years ago. And I got Shining the Holy Ark for around 40
Quite happy that I still have my copies of Shining and the Holy Ark, Guardian Heroes and Panzer Dragoon Saga. Wish I had bought Dragon Force all those years ago though.
Sold my copy of Daytona Net-Link Edition to the Immortal John Handcock to help complete his collection. He posted a video about it with good information on concerns with collecting older cd based media. I think he was happy with the purchase (and so was I $$$)
Savitor him and metal Jesus cocks are hurting the retro gaming community, selfish people. Hope you sold that game for $1000 any less and you got robbed! 😂😂😂
At least he didn't donate it to him for his "museum".
How much you sold it for ? Give us NUMBERSSSSSS o-o
@@rayray5186 why mjr? I know John Hancock has been bad with copy right strikes
shanobian MJR has been known to ask people to just give them their rare game consoles even though they are selling to him at a fair price. He’s been known to make videos to ask him fans for money like a road trip to buy an RV and go game hunting and like for his fans to pay for the basement that’s got water damage. Plus the guy never gives anything back to his fans. The dudes a slim ball.
I'm so glad that I own several of the titles mentioned. Mostly glad that I bought them new and never sold them. Saturn Bomberman, Working Designs Sega Ages, Street Fighter Zero 3, Super Tempo, and Blast Wind are just a few I bought new in the 90's and kept. I would not dream of paying the asking prices now.
Dood!! What a great episode. You create the most amazing content, week after week. I’m indebted to you for the rest of my life for giving us such amazingly well thought out and wonderful editing and voice overs. Thank you so much man. Please give a part two. I was going to ask before you ever even thought of asking us if we wanted it. ;-)
I sold my Sega Saturn collection last year. It saved my life.
The fact that I sold my huge Saturn collection with most of these games for cheap to buy a Dreamcast on lunch date makes me sick :P.
If only the younger me knew...
Cbreak I did the same with my Genesis collection to buy a 3DO😢
Don't beat yourselves up too bad. Many of us made this mistake. I did the same thing with my Super Nintendo to get an N64.
At least Dreamcast games are also very expensive.
@@DeathToJihad It's true that some are but that's not the point. It's the childhood memories we have that's associated with these games and the desire to play them again. When those games turn prohibitively expensive to get back you kick yourself for ever letting them go in the first place. Like many other collectors I'm trying to hunt down the games I had as a kid as well as expand my collection overall. Many of us realized that we would regret selling off our old games to get the new releases after some or even a lot of these games had already been lost to us. We realized replacing them would be an enormous and possibly expensive task. I personally stopped selling my games off during the PS1 era but others took a bit longer. Looking up these games now and seeing that they're more expensive than ever ( especially for systems like the Saturn) is a real kick to the gut. For a lot of us collecting is about re-experiencing childhood memories and even sharing these with our children. Not so we can say "Yeah, I got this $500 game sitting on my shelf at home."
I kinda feel you man, except i could buy everything again later. Keep looking out, you can get the console itself for not THAT much and at least some games are halfway affordable. Funnily enough, i sold my SNES with like 5 games to buy my saturn, used and pretty much at the end of it's lifetime. Everyone had a Playstation or an N64 back then, so i figured i could always play those with them, i wanted the console i couldn't play anywhere else. In the long run, i'm happy i did it, because obvious reasons. I bought Panzer Dragoon Saga on launch day and it still sits proudly on my shelf, and Panzer Dragoon Zwei even got played for the first time by my sister and her husband a few weeks back, and both were so hooked that they had to play it through.
I have been waiting for this!
So a part 2 would interest you?
@@SegaLordX Yes
Does sonic go fast?
@@sneakyking lol
Thank God for Emulation!
Spot On
I'm trying to get Saturn emu running on my GPD XD for just this reason. All tips are welcome for this noob.
Great vid! Please do a part 2 as there a bunch of other games you missed. Some games I'd like to see covered include; Winning Post, Battle Sport, Maximum Force, Megaman X3 (PAL), Dragonball Z The Legend (PAL), Three Dirty Dwarves, Herc's Adventures, and Batman Forever The Arcade Game.
Don't forget *Hyper Duel* - a beyond perfect arcade port (with extra stuff for home). It's a horizontal shooter by Technosoft, I believe their 2nd or 3rd arcade title, and the Saturn port feels really beefy and powerful, like a thoroughbred arcade shmup from the era. Has the legendary developer's typically stylish menus, HUD, and overall strong level, weapon, and enemy design.
Worth tracking down.
*Guardian Heroes* - like so many Treasure games - is best known for its amazing 2D character control, super precise collision/hitboxes/ability interaction, creative enemies and boss encounters, and outstanding co-op play.
The 6-player vs. mode with a massive roster of playable characters that you unlock in the campaign is a sweet cherry on top, and the game's multi-plane 2D adds immensely to the strategy in this battle mode.
If your first GH experience was on Xbox using the Xbox 360 controller's absolutely disgusting d-pad, you didn't quite enjoy it as intended - and your perception of control and gameplay was likely compromised.
Couldn't agree more , if I'm paying that kind of money it better be fun. Great video as always
Oh yes, please parts 2, 3 and........................!! Would be cool to see you mention repro games that allow the physical experience without breaking the bank. Thanks for all the amazing content.
Sending this to friends with the caption "This is what I've brought on myself"
Resellers helped sparked the expensive prices we see today for consoles like the Saturn, the PC Engine, and the SNES. They are also slowly doing it for the Genesis too.
Man i wish i still had guardian heroes, my fav game of all time. Good thing im getting an odroid soon, its one of the games on the list :)
Shining the Holy Ark kinda gave me some Golden Sun vibes!
First time I ever heard of that bicycle crazy taxi looking game. Looks fun as hell
Recently got my Saturn emulator up and running. I'm really excited to try out both Dragonforce games
*The Shining Force 3 trilogy* is wonderful.
Great for any SRPG fan, and orgasmic for fans of the series.
There's also a superb fan translation for Chapter 2 and 3.
Thank you so much for your advice. I also have final fight Revenge. I realized. it was so special because it's the last game ever made for the Sega Saturn.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree with the views on Frankenstein here. I think the game is very good and while adventure games like that are certainly not everyone's cup of tea, calling it a "bad game" is simply not true. Might be worth a deeper look to appreciate it sometime in the future.
I'm happy I own Shining Force Holy Ark and DragonForce and completed them both.
I'm a Sega Saturn gamer and collector. I really hope you do another part to your Rare and Expensive Sega Saturn Game video. There were other Sega Saturn games that sold late in the Saturn life, especially 4 games I know of that Sega knew they were going to sell at a limited number of those games and sold at a higher price. Those games included Shining Force 3 (Scenario 1. Scenario 2 & 3 were never sold in the US), Burning Force, Magic Knight Rayearth (I enjoyed this game a lot, especially part where you find "embarrassing" images of one helpful character on the game) and Panzer Dragoon Saga (which I believe is currently the most expensive of the final four games). Chances are you may find these games out there at a more reasonable prices in either Garage Sales, Swap Meets or Flea Markets as an alternative to eBay. I'm just saying.
Yesssss Dragon Force and Guardian Heroes were my absolute favorite. I honestly never see those on anyone's top list especially DF.
Yep. I'm going to need a part 2. Also, Sega CD.
I can't argue with guardian heroes. That games is worth a ton more. One of best games ever made.
At least it's on Xbox live. :D
The multiplayer on it with the all characters cheat code made for some funny crazy times
4:40 There's Frankenstein collectors in the Horror community. I only know this because there's a $50 Frankenstein Anime on VHS that also has no reason to be that expensive.
😅😅Thank the lord for Yaba Sanshiro and the Nvidia Shield 2017!! No way in hell would i ever pay anything close to those asking prices, but your video is ultra informative as always👌🏾👌🏾👏🏽👏🏽
Sega lord x you should do a price video update for 2022
'Love your stuff!
SEGA Saturn 4 Life!!!
FIRST!!!
Glad you are here and watching it all.
Definitely needs a part 2.
I have a lot of these games.