Also, I'd like to give a bit of advice as a cop. Please record your firearm serial numbers so you can get to them. I find that people who get their firearm stolen don't know them. This prevents us from placing them into stolen nationwide and allows criminals to get away with the theft. It also prevents me from returning it to you if I can't definitively know it is your firearm. So please write it down, email it to yourself, take a picture of it... something.
@@korazy also take a picture of the label on the box with the serial number, make and model. Email it to yourself. Then it can't be lost in theft or fire.
Really? Everything he says “admittedly so” in some videos is recycled/regurgitated material 🤦🏻♂️... but hey he’s targeting rookies who think he’s a professional... more power to him 😉🤷🏻♂️
@@mvg03 I guess some people just like to stay up late, have a few drinks, and get on the internet to drop turds on a stranger's sandwich. Hope your life improves to the point that you don't feel the need to go out of your way to spread the misery, buddy.
I am the lone gun owner amongst my family and friends. “What should I look for in my first gun“ is probably the most common firearm question I get. Now I know where to direct them. As always, you have the best, no-nonsense, fact based approach to firearms. So much of the gun information out there focuses way more on buying a gun rather the responsibility and proficiency required to own one. I am very appreciative that you emphasize the importance of practice and real training.
I know, right? The lack of fake tough guy swagger is refreshing. LG always comes with the facts presented in a laid-back but professional style. Chris is a pro’s pro when it comes to being in front of the camera.
I have been a shooter all my life. I'm of retirement age now. I find that my favorite guns to carry ended up being my Ruger LCR revolvers. I also like to carry my S&W J-frames, but I enjoy shooting the Ruger LCR better than the S&W J-Frame, and they both carry about the same. Especially if you get different grips/stocks for them. Hellcats, Glock 26, Glock 19, 1911's etc. all get left at home. The Ruger LCR 357 Magnum just does it for me. I feel quite well armed with the LCR 357 mag or the LCR 22. 8 shots of 22 should take care what needs doing. And for practice, I love shooting my Ruger LCR 22LR. Out of all the guns I've had, who would have thought that ugly little Ruger LCR would end up being my favorite. Now that I'm used to having them, they're starting to look better too.
Great video...especially on the LCR recommendation. I would add two things to the list.... 1. The LCR also comes in 9mm. It gives better performance than the .38 Special with little difference in recoil. Ammo is also cheaper. And the moon clips are not as much a disadvantage when carried in a proper speedloader pouch (can fit two clips in the space of a single speedloader.) Finally, you can shoot it without the clips for practice....just have a pencil handy to knock out the fired cases. 2. If the standard grip on a LCR doesn't fit, there are many options. I like the LCRx grips on my LCR, giving me a full three-finger grip on the gun. Other options are available, and changing grips is an easy action.
Excellent video. My wife bought her first handgun and decided on the shield EZ 9. She shot several different guns and liked it the best. She handles it really well. But like you said everyone is different.
I watch a bunch of gun videos but for a young guy this man actually takes the time to watch you in the face and explain every single detail and his experience. I love your videos sir. Thank you so very much. I’m new to guns to protect and defend myself and my family.
Thanks for this video. I'm what you refer to in your video a a gun "enthusiast". I'm a gun owner that wants to be safe and competent with my weapon, but there are limits on the time and interest I can dedicate to my self defense "hobby". As a result, very little firearms content on the internet feels accessible to me. Most of it seems to have the attitude that if you aren't willing to make shooting the focal passion of your life then you aren't welcome here. And as someone who isn't interested in IRL operator cosplay, the level-headedness and pragmatism of your channel is a breath of fresh air. Just wanted to say this was, as always, great content.
I've been shooter all my life. I was doing this before it got real popular, figuring out weapons and stuff because we we didn't have TH-cam at the time. All that advice you gave was actually really good advice. I had someone to ask,my father, and he steered me to what he recommended and had known from his friends. But your advice is pretty dang good I'll have to say!
Such great advice in this video. Over the years what I usually see is people tend to go for the new, hotshot 9mm pocket rocket first and then they just continually suck at shooting and never end up carrying. I have multiple friends who own one handgun, safe queen G43’s, shields, and now P365’s
"I get it; I don't particularly like Glocks either." "I don't shoot Glocks any more often than I have to." This is why I watch this channel. Honesty and lack of flash. My first handgun was a Beretta PX4. After going to numerous ranges and getting my hands on nearly 20 different guns, it was the one I was most comfortable with. I actually picked it over a Glock 17. Finally bought a Glock as my first .45 - only took 6 years and 4 other firearms first!
I also made the conscious choice to not go with a Glock. I never liked the way they feel in my hand, too chunky. My first (and still only) handgun was a Ruger SR9c; really comfortable to shoot and has been super reliable.
Chris, I want to give you an immense amount of Thank You and Credit for the videos you have done over the years, starting with, "Review: Six 9mm Single Stack Pistols in 60 Seconds" Sep 30, 2014. Your style and delivery are unparalleled in the way that you present the material and back it up with statistics. I have been shooting for over 50 years. You look like you're about the same age as my Grandson and yet I still respect your presentations and your opinions. Thank you very much for your service to the community. Keep it up.
As Chris was describing the reliability of a Glock I was imagining using a metaphor like it’s the Honda Civic of pistols. When he said Toyota Corolla(equally reliable) I laughed at the thought of a bunch of Glock fan boys getting offended that he didn’t describe something “tougher” like a small block Chevy🤣
The LCR in 327 loaded with 32 H&R Magnum is probably the best newbie carry gun available today. Crimson Trace laser grips make it even better. But explaining the ammo situation -- the four different calibers, the fact that you should ignore two of them (.32 Short and .327) -- and the cost and availability of .32 H&R Magnum ammo might be a bit overwhelming for a new shooter. Especially on the casual end of the spectrum. If I had the time and ability to personally walk someone through all of that and I didn't think it would be an impediment to them, that's the gun I would most likely set up a non-enthusiast new shooter with.
Some excellent points made in this video. Unfortunately too many people go with the 9mm for the first gun. It's a good caliber, but in my experience, staying proficient with it takes too much effort and money -- unless you're the enthusiast that he mentioned. Go to the gun range after a long layoff from shooting and see what happens. Try shooting rapidly (but safely) with the very first magazine (no slow fire practice to get started) then take an honest hard look at the target. If you're not shooting well with that very first magazine, then you won't shoot well in a gunfight, because no one gets to warm-up by firing a couple of magazines before the real action happens. In my case, I wasn't shooting that often, and I had to downgrade to the 380 caliber, and I'm convinced it was a good decision. I can get consistent rapid hits with my S&W Shield 380 EZ every time I go to the range and right at the beginning of the session, no warmup needed. Too many people are recommending 9mm to those they care about because they are only thinking ballistics, and that is putting the cart before the horse. Ballistics won't help you if you miss.
I am considering selling my 9mm and replacing it with the 380 EZ for exactly that reason. I have a Sig P238 that I shoot better than a full sized 9mm, so the EZ looks like a really good idea.
Caliber is a very personal choice. Carry what you can shoot well and consistently. I personally learned pistol shooting with a Glock 23 (compact 40 S&W), and I truly believe it made me a better shooter. I also had the time and money to go shoot often and the willingness to dry practice every day. Someone with less time might consider a 9mm or 380 (preferably the EZ if you go with 380) in a gun that's not too small for them. I like the 380 EZ, but I disagree that 9mm isn't a good starting caliber.
@@0dayExploit Well I agree with you that the 9mm (or 40 S&W) can be a good choice for people who really are going to put in the range time. But even those folks have to continually assess if they are maintaining that proficiency and be reasonable enough to downgrade if their skills fall off, and by downgrade I don't mean to a pocket 380, it has to be, like you suggested, a gun that's not too small for them. But that's assuming that they can afford to take the financial hit to trading in and out of guns. Just from my casual observations at the gun range over the years, I notice far too many people trying to shoot guns that they simply cannot handle well. The 1911 .45acp seems to be a common culprit, and I'm no 1911 hater at all, but that is just one of many makes and models. It could also be that these bad shooters can't shoot ANYTHING very well, but I strongly suspect they could shoot a mid-sized 380 (locked breech) much better than the 9's and 45's they wasted their money on. Anyway, as was mentioned at the start of the video, a lot of questions need to be answered before there can be a good recommendation.
Ruger also makes 2 revolvers (1 chambered in.22 Long Rifle & 1 chambered in.22 Magnum) these 2 revolvers, I believe will be perfect for a new or beginning target shooter.
I was shooting in NRA programs as a dependent at West Point in the 60's and in IPSC in the 80's. Your observations and advise about the current offerings are a welcome breath of reason. Thank you.
Just want to say “Thanks for not changing”! You guys have been my “go to” site, for ammo, since all this craziness started. You always have something in stock, and the prices haven’t changed. Kudos...
@@nmende00 And as the OP just stated, you can fire .32 H&R Magnum which is significantly lesser in the recoil/flash department than .327 Federal Magnum. LG actually did a pretty good video on this already, titled as below: Why the Best Snub Nose Caliber is .32 They've also covered ammo choices in their FBI-standard hollow point performance testing; with Hornady 80gr FTX -- recorded @1066fps; energy nearly equivilant to .38 Special +P -- performing rather admirably given the caliber choice.
@@jessican.1500 one thing you cant get past 38 makes bigger holes, the atomic 38spec +p 148gr backward waddcutter expands to over .70" in a 2" barrel. Also LG is an idiot he legitimately believes 357mag has the same effect on a living target as 9mm he believes energy has literally no effect only penetration and expansion.
CB, I'm an old shooter (70) with a couple safes full, but love you insight into people coming from a different space. Always get something out of your entertainment.
I think a pocket gun with a solid pocket holster is the very best first carry weapon for regular civilians as you’ll put it in your pocket at times when you otherwise won’t bother strapping up inside the waist band and get a larger compact for times you want to carry big. The longer I’ve carried the smaller my weapon has gotten. As always I like the reasoned approach of this channel
Taurus G2C. Don't listen to all the olds about how you can never trust a Taurus. It's not the 90's anymore. Go look up *any* review of the G2C and you'll find people singing its praises. It's got the capacity, it's small and easily carried, it has a manual safety which is good for new shooters who aren't yet at that level where they're comfortable with Glocks, M&Ps, etc that don't have a manual safety. It has a loaded chamber indicator, same reason, for those people who need that little extra assurance if it's their first gun. It's ultra-reliable. Again, it's not the 90's anymore. The G2C does what it's supposed to every time. Taurus is putting out quality American made firearms these days. And it's affordable. $200ish dollars brand new. Give it a shot.
@@czwarlord9243 The problem is not the gun, it's the magazine springs. I had the same issue with one of the magazines, I contacted S&W. They sent me new springs for the magazines and that solved the problem.
I love your videos and thought I'd add a bit of info since I'm a new shooter over the last couple of years. I watched dozens of videos just like this one and ended up collecting an H&K P30, a S&W M&P 9mm, a S&W 9mm Shield, and a Glock 19. All polymer pistols. I think they are all great but I was never introduced to an all metal gun until I randomly decided to rent a Sig P229 at a brand new range that opened in my neighborhood. HOLY CRAP! I never new shooting could be so easy and fun! Then I rented a Sig P226 and my world got even better!! The added weight of these pistols makes recoil a breeze and my accuracy increased by 10X overnight. If I was recommending a gun for a new shooter, given my experience, I'd say buy a full metal pistol. The Sig P229 is small enough to carry and far easier to shoot than the Glock, M&P and H&K polymer pistols. Once you master the metal gun, feel free to step up to the polymer but given my expereince I wouldn't start with the polymer guns like I did.
Funny how people's experiences varry. I started with the M&P Shield 9mm. I was able to control it enough to pass (and have the best grouping in) my CCW class in only a couple trips to the range and maybe 100 rounds. I then picked up a 9mm, all steel, Jericho 941. It's a great pistol and the recoil is lighter. However I still shoot the Shield far better and pull the 941 down and to the left. The 941 has more heft, a larger frame, longer sight radius and much lighter and crisper trigger, but the Shield just points more naturally for me. I hope whatever you pick, you're able to carry it and never had need to use it.
I’m in enthusiast category. Bought my first gun In high school. .22 rifle. Waited 20+ years to buy my next. In the last three months I’ve bought three guns. 9mm Glock 17 gen 5, Ruger sr1911 45 acp 5”, and a Wilson Combat 11.3” Protector in 5.56. I love shooting them all and have found a new hobby/obsession. Already eyeing my next. Sig p365x for edc.
As an armed professional of many years, I watch dozens of gun videos a day. This may well be the single best gun video I have ever seen. I'd love to meet you someday. We would have so much in common. Big Dave
The P32 is a surprisingly good gun. I carry one sometimes when I'm out running or on the lake. It's not what I would recommend for a new shooter, but it's probably a better choice than a pocket .380.
jayls5 Only downside is trying to find ammo for under $21.00 per 50 rounds. U can find it online but tax and shipping puts you way over. I have a Beretta Cheetah in .32 acp and I have to go all over to get a box. Even Academy, which is the cheapest, charges $19.00 for the cheap stuff and it goes up from there.
@. Turnock Use only FMJ ammo. Make sure you load the magazine carefully to avoid rimlock. If you've got more than a few hundred rounds through the gun, replace the recoil spring. The P32 is not made to be shot a ton and it goes through springs quickly.
Nice This pretty well mirrors my own thoughts on the subject, particularly the recommendation of a revolver for more casual Shooters who aren't going to put in a lot of training time People don't think about this when they're complaining about the long heavy trigger pull, but that's actually a safety feature, on a gun that has no mechanical safety I've always considered that the lighter and shorter the trigger throw on the gun, the less suited it is for a beginner And the other point that most people forget With a semi-auto, to be considered truly proficient, you need to practice thousands of repetitions of malfunction clearance grills, aside from dry fire and target practice With a DA revolver, every time you pull the trigger, that's a malfunction clearance drill And since people who don't want to put in the thousands of repetitions of practice necessary to make tap rack bang a reflex action is going to be to panic and squeeze the trigger again if the gun goes click instead of bang, that makes the revolver more intuitive
I'm probably one of the few that would still look at a revolver as a beginner handgun, but then I learned to shoot firing .38 semi-wadcutters through my father's plain Jane S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman. And I would still take it over that damned no-name semi-auto that rained hot brass down my neck the gun shop/ range had me try as my first pistol.
Yes, I totally agree, the heavy patrolman shooting light .38 loads is excellent for a new shooter. Very low recoil and excellent single action trigger. It is really harder to learn to shoot well with a gun that has a bad trigger and snappy recoil (like a Glock...).
Among a host of videos on this subject, this one stands out for its intelligence, realism and sense of responsibility. Aside from the clearly-explained justifications for the choices, it's nice to hear an undoubted gun enthusiast tell people to just forget it if they only intend to stow the gun away somewhere and never learn how to use it or practice. I also approve of the comment about the perceived inadequacy of a five-shot revolver. The vast majority of real-world conflicts are resolved by the mere appearance of a firearm - we call this deterrence, and it works with firearms, not just nuclear weapons - and when shots are actually fired they are almost always few in number.
Can you do a video on the mentality for self defense? The hardware is important but so is the software. The thought of having to kill some one is foreign to day to day morality and acknowledgement of the grim possibility is something that is under mentioned in the self defense community. Great video as always
Yeah, we might look into that sometime. In the meantime, search around for articles and podcasts with Dr. William Aprill. He has a lot of excellent stuff on that topic.
My first gun was a .38 special. My first semi was a Walther pps. I eventually graduated to a P365 and sold the Walther pps for credit towards a 12 gauge range shotgun (shockwave). I have a Shield 2.0 for my backup 9mm. The Kimber micro 380 is smooth as silk. It's my pocket carry. I got a Remington 870 tactical that sleeps right beside me.
Chris, thank you for this video. I’ve been shooting rifles and shotguns for over twenty five years, and am just now looking into my first handgun. This video helped me to really think about my selection, and which direction I’m going to go. I find with the gun world, it’s very similar to the performance car world. It’s full of enthusiasts, and they mean well, but ask ten people, and you’ll get ten different answers, and all have strong biases towards one make or another, which is fine, but it’s a bit confusing. You laid it all out there in a simple, honest, and helpful way. Thank you.
I'm a big revolver fan. It's the only gun on this list that does not rely on the ammunition for repetitive fire. I agree 100% on getting the lcr 357 for weight, I have one and love it to death. Slick, smooth trigger.
Once again, a great presentation, and some surprises, yet plenty of good solid advice. I love that Chris goes out on a limb to make such specific recommendations. My only complaint is that he doesn't make firearm videos more often.
My first gun was a Glock 21, then soon followed by the subcompact 10mm 29. I didn’t regret it. In fact, it lead me into reloading. It’s definitely not the BEST gun to learn with, but it wasn’t horrible. Actually, I just remembered that I bought an XDm 9mm 5.25” as my second gun but sold it for the G29 after like a week. I sold it because I couldn’t shoot it without dropping the magazine. It’s the only gun I’ve ever sold and I regret it. Surely it was due to being a noob.
Holy shit dude! Talk about jumping into the deep end head first. Sig's a solid choice. What did you get? I've got the itch for a P229 Talo Edition, but there are just too many handguns in the stable already that I seldom shoot. Need to thin the herd a little bit before I pull the trigger on that.
Yeah, very similar to getting a Shelby Mustang gt350r for a new driver. Still, the Glock 20 is a solid gun, stock, and near perfect with upgrades. I got trijicon sights, kkm barrel, and a 22 lb brass stacker recoil assembly. Those upgrades have increased accuracy and durability while decreasing recoil.
A few years ago I asked a friend of mine to help me choose my first pistol . He was an IDF SF pistol instructor. After going through my needs : (lightweight , ultra concealable ,getting out of a situation,not putting cuffs on the guy. Threats in heavily populated areas) and the time I had to practice (not enough ), he suggested the glock 42 . The l " gun guys" at the store were amazed, even laughed at the "low power " "girl gun"choice. . I'm glad to see that other professionals are not afraid to recommend the 42 chamberd in the lowly 380 acp. (We are only allowed 1 pistol )
My top 5 caveats for a handgun 2020 1. Is there actual ammo available for it? Just because you walk into a gun store and they have handguns, is there ammo to actually shoot it? And/or do you live in a state that allows you to buy ammo online and have it shipped directly to your house? Namely because, as we saw in March, the panic buying cleared just about everything out and backed up online orders for weeks. 2. Are the magazines readily available and affordable to buy more? IE, is it from a reputable brand that sells magazines from a variety of options or is it a pain in the neck to get more than the 1-3 that come stock with the gun. I like to have at least 5 in case one breaks. 3. Is it one that that has a good aftermarket support in case of parts needing to be replaced. 4. Is it just for you or will your significant other also be using it in case you are not around and do they know how to load, unload, and clean it? 5. Do you have the ability to actually go practice with it at a range or in the middle of nowhere on public lands that allow you to go shoot?
I agree with you and have always done this with handguns. I recently started caring way more about your first requirement with long guns lately. If I can't find rifle rounds locally I ignore the caliber.
Great video! I’m sure there are haters because there always is but with all the new gun owners or future new gun owners this is a fantastic resource. Thank you for all your videos sir. I will be pointing all future new firearm owners who ask me for advice to this video. You’re the man!
I chose a Sig P238. With the extended mag, it feels like it was made for my hand. The safety is in such a natural place that I can release it while drawing and it just *flows* The only drawback (to my mind) is that it takes a 9mm short, and ammo is crazy scarce around here. I do have an iTarget so I can practice without going through so much.
Great Company!!!! I recently ordered some 9mm ammo in a certain grain. Accidentally, they send me the right calibre but wrong grain. Still shootable in my Glock. When I contacted Luck Gunner, they apologised and after confirmation, they sent me the exact ammo I originally ordered, and they allowed me to keep the other ammo. This shows what a great company they are. Recommend this to EVERYONE!!!!
Chris, I really enjoy your videos. Your video on the 32 caliber series led me to purchase the LCR 327. Your presentations are absolutely on par with Hickok45, Paul Harrell and the late Jeff Quinn. If I'm interested in a particular handgun or topic, I look for your no- frills topic videos to help make up my mind. Keep it up!
Chris, you are a favorite for sure. Common sense and no flash goes a long way. I own about a dozen short barrel EDC guns, Revolvers and Pistols. While Glocks are fine dependable guns, it is important to note like you did, that so many other guns are equally as reliable, some shoot and handle much better edc. Also while I shoot around a thousand rounds per week, I will have to say I just love shooting the LCR. A really fun gun at the range. And as Hickcock45 said about Snubbies, "There is just something about them". Keep up the great work!
"Life is just easier with a Glock". This is the single most important thing I can personally say I learned as a new shooter in the enthusiast category. I didn't listen and wanted to be different. I didn't understand all the fuss about Glock, but it's starting to make sense now.
We got my wife an LCR and I love carrying it. I can literally put it just about anywhere and you wont notice its there. I have pocket carried it (in a holster), IWB strong side, ankle. It is one gun I can appendix carry and sit down with all day and never have any pain. That being said, I prefer something with more rounds... but who am I to complain? Before we got that I used to carry a XDS 45...
Very GOOD video - over all. But, I feel you gave the revolver a bit of a short shrift, perhaps? Namely the Ruger mentioned is quite light weight, has NO provision for single/double action, and weight is your friend when it comes to (felt) recoil especially in the little 5-shot revolver platforms. My opinion, and I'm NOT alone, would be something along the line of the S&W mo 638, a stainless 5-shot revolver with a shrouded hammer: solid, substantial, but compact little piece. Advantages (over the Ruger): provides single and double action capability, yet the hammer won't catch on anything, and has enough heft along with the rubber grips to be very pleasant to shoot, AND capable too of doing so even with loaded with 357 rounds (125 grain HP). Just my opinion, based on having handled and shot both the Ruger and the S&W 638 especially. Excellent advice too on the semi-autos!
Yep! I use it exclusively with new shooters, The open slide makes easy to demonstrate and explain how the gun works, how to verify if it’s loaded or clear, mastering a Da trigger sets them up for success on any other gun, and the inherent safety of a Da/sa is great advantage for someone who’s safety practices aren’t quite at the subconscious level yet, the heavy weight, smooth recoil impulse, long and clear sight radius help to. With the right holster it can be cc’d easily as well, i rotate it with a px4 depending if I want a light and dot
Well I have a glock 17. After the first week it jammed on every shot. What a pain in the ass. After fixing it . It does better. But my first choice is a revolver 357 but I keep 38 loads in it. When a glock jams what are you going to tell the bad guy oh wait my gun jammed. Yea right the good old revolver is just so reliable !
I learned this from Jim Cirillo. To see if a gun fits your hand properly, start with your finger positioned properly on the trigger. Then, wrap the rest of your hand around the gun. If the gun is in alignment with your forearm, it's good. If it's off to one side or the other, it's either too large or too small. For a right handed person, if the gun points off to the right, the gun's grip is too large for you. If it points to the left, it's too small. Sometimes, exchangeable grip panels, back straps or shorter/longer triggers may fix this situation. Sometimes, a different gun is needed. The reason this system is important is because it makes quick, reflexive/point shooting much more accurate. Jim was in more gunfights than most. He logged over 40 gunfights and nearly as many kills, about half of which were while he was on the Stakeout Squad with NYPD. RIP, Jimmy. You made the world a safer place.
I wouldn't overlook the idea of getting a 22lr as a first gun either. My wife tried to start with 9mm and it had too much recoil and made her disinterested in shooting. I got a Taurus TX22 and she started shooting again thanks to that firearm. We have since gotten her the Shield EZ 380 and she was surprised at how little recoil it has and how enjoyable it is to shoot, like the Taurus was. I'd also say I had a LCR and although it's DAO trigger was better than most, I wish I would've gotten the LCRx with the exposed hammer. I have a S&W J-Frame, Model 360 in 357 mag with a hammer. It weighs about 16oz and I shoot mostly 38 special from it and it is pretty accurate even in DAO. With the 357's and hammer cocked I can make accurate shots at 15 yards or more. I shoot it way more than I ever shot the LCR. Personal preference I suppose.
Yep, i bought 6 this year. I just sighted in my new Ruger 57, and pick up my new Springfield Hellcat tomorrow. I might pick up a .32 magnum if they have any while i'm there.
Suggestion for new video - how about measuring the decibel level at the shooter's ear, firing different firearms in a closed room? For example, a .38 snubbie, .357 snubbie, 9mm short barrel, 9mm 5" barrel, .40 5" barrel, .45 5" barrel, 9mm 16" carbine, and 5.56 16" barrel. Another part of this that would be nice would be comparing hot, subsonic, and "low noise/low flash" versions.
Another EXCELLENT video Chris, thank you for doing this. You're the man. To all the new shooters out there, (1) Welcome to the Pleasuredome, be safe out there; and (2)Rest assured that Chris is giving you sound advice in this video.
Hi Chris. Well done as always! Regarding the LCR, I really think that the 9mm version could very well would be a good choice. Considering the weight, muzzle velocity of the 9mm, smooth double action and full moon clips for rapid reload I feel that it would be a winner, especially with Underwood Extreme Defender ammunition. Their 65 grain 9mm is rated at ~1800 fps out of a 4” barrel. It would be great to see how it does in chronograph and terminal ballistic testing. Hint, Hint.
An LCR in 327 Federal Magnum would be a good choice also. You get an extra round and you can shoot H&R Magnum or even 32 S&W for less recoil. The holes are a little smaller, but there is good ammo for the 32 class. It does cost more than the 38/357 stuff though, unfortunately.
For almost 25 years my wife has shot a Taurus 85, and shot it well. Last year I bought her a Shield EZ 380. She hated semiauto handguns but really likes the EZ. Great gun. The big thing for her was the ease of racking the slide. I have a Ruger LCR, best double action trigger out there. It is my truck gun. As for Glock.... no thanks. I prefer my H&K VP9 and VP9SK. Much better triggers.
My first handgun was/is (Still own it) a Ruger Blackhawk (yes..Single action) chambered in .357 (or .38 special as the video explained) in the 6 1/2 inch barrel. Ever since then, I have always had a fondness for wheel guns.
A friend is looking for a 9 ounce gun with a 2 pound trigger pull that has no kick, no noise & can drop a gorilla with one shot. She's tried my guns & rented several 22, 380, 38 & 9mm in all different sizes. At some point we must adjust to the gun because none of them are perfect. Otherwise we go unarmed. Better to have a less-than-perfect gun than nothing. She did sign up for a new shooter class so she'll learn that all guns go bang, have recoil & take practice to hit targets with.
Chris, I think you'd sell a lot more ammo if you guys had flat rate shipping - I finally checked you out recently and found everything but zeroed the order once it calculated the shipping cost. My 2¢
The biggest problem is often finding a holster that 1- fits your gun and 2- fits your needs. Some guns just don't seem to be on the holster makers radar. I carry a FNs-9 and holsters are few and far between. I do leather craft and made the one I wear but I looked for a kydex....not much to choose from and try adding a light....and left hand.... Got to say...you make some of the best videos on you tube. Thanks.
This is one of a handful of premiere gun channels with solid, well-reasoned advice. Kudos to Chris Baker and Lucky Gunner. I'd also add a 3-inch barreled 38 special revolver into the mix as a best handgun for new shooters. That added inch of barrel length puts the extra weight right where you want it, to help manage recoil and muzzle flip.
Another good video Chris. With a market so saturated with solid choices, you still did well at breaking down the choices. Your ability to give thorough explanations for your decisions, allows the audience to use the same processes in making their own decisions.
I shot for the first time yersterday. I tried the Sig P226 and the Glock 19. I shot much, much better with the Glock 19. It felt easier to hold, and I was more confident with it.
The P226 is a DA/SA weapon and will take a little more practice, as you'll have to learn 2 trigger pulls, but the trade off is better risk mitigation if you carry given the hammer.
Revolver shooter here. I used to think revolvers were great for any beginner shooter. But that was the wheelgun lover in me talking. I don't recommend them for newbies anymore. I've come to realize that while shooting a revolver is easy (simple to operate), shooting them well is not (mastering the long double action trigger pull). I really applaud Chris for making the distinction between enthusiasts and casual shooters. If you're not really planning to spend a lot of time at the range, a revolver is not a good choice. Maybe it'll do when you really need to defend yourself, but you're probably better off with a Glock. That said, if you intend to go to the range and put in the hours, if you intend to learn about guns and marksmanship, and you're genuinely, sincerely interested in shooting revolver: GO FOR IT. Revolvers are wonderful firearms, and mastering revolver shooting is a worthy endeavor. Also, more props to Chris for recommending the .357 Mag version of the Ruger LCR instead of the .38 Special version. There were reports when the LCR first came out of frame stretching after 5,000 rounds because of the .38 Special version's aluminum frame. The .357 Mag is much tougher with its steel frame. Those same reports said the gun still functioned properly, but I'd prefer a gun that ultimately wasn't trying to destroy itself. Maybe Ruger has since addressed that, but the .357 Mag LCR is something you can bring to the range regularly thanks to being a bit heavier weight. I'd prefer an SP101 for even less felt recoil, but Chris' recommendation is a reasonable, respectable choice.
I got my CCW with a snub nosed revolver. I appreciate the LCR Ruger because there is purpose being every trigger pull. Also, if someone gets in close range and tried to take the gun from me, there is almost nothing they can do to jam the gun. With a .38 s and .357 mag load out, I can practice with the .38s and have the 357 hp for defense.
I dislike all of the guns you mentioned, BUT I carry a Glock 19 when I carry an auto and for the reasons you stated, the 17 is also good. I balk at the LCR for new shooters as it can be more challenging and I would prefer a S&W M 60 with a 3” barrel and adjustable sights. As for the Glock, training is key and keep your bloody finger off the trigger until you’re ready to shoot it’s probably the easiest gun to shoot yourself with. The DA/SA autos are better in that regard but require much more practice because of the two trigger pulls. All in all a very good and well thought out video and one of the very few that recommend wad cutters in the .38. Bravo, Jim Cirillo agrees and that is a pretty strong recommendation.
I wish I had heeded the idea of just going Glock early on. Finding holsters for handguns that aren't the darlings of the industry is a collosal pain in the ass
Especially when you begin to add things like lights and optics. Even with having firearms that are popular, but not quite as popular as Glock, finding a holster set up for a specific light and specific mrds becomes dang near impossible. Custom made holsters have become my only option. While I have always been pleased by the custom holsters I've purchased, I can't help but be jealous of the market support that Glocks enjoy. Bought a brand spanking new Gen2 g17 way back in the day and promptly returned it to the store as I thought it was defective. Turns out it was just me. Should have kept it and learned how to shoot it
All good choices.... yet the top Ruger LCR for new or old shooters in the 327 Fed Magnum. It shoots 32 HR mags that feel like a 22LR. Gun Sam has some great videos of the damage the 32 HR Mag can do. Even the SW 32 Long does good damage.
Great choice! Recently, my local FFL had a big pile of 32 long on the shelf for $19 a box and every time I went there everyone was fighting over the $30 a box 9mm, so I would pick up a couple boxes of the 32. For weeks the 32 remained on the shelf. I kept buying it till it was gone! 32 better than nothing!
The only thing I would add to your information is 22 lr for a first hand gun. Lots ood options inexpensive to shoot, less intimidating for a new shooter.
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Also, I'd like to give a bit of advice as a cop. Please record your firearm serial numbers so you can get to them. I find that people who get their firearm stolen don't know them. This prevents us from placing them into stolen nationwide and allows criminals to get away with the theft. It also prevents me from returning it to you if I can't definitively know it is your firearm. So please write it down, email it to yourself, take a picture of it... something.
The Settlemonster Thank you Sir. Really good advice.
This is exactly what I needed to hear I’m getting my serial numbers tattooed
Thank you!! I was told to keep my box that the gun comes in since it has all the info. I keep my box in a separate location and my gun in a safe.
@@korazy also take a picture of the label on the box with the serial number, make and model. Email it to yourself. Then it can't be lost in theft or fire.
@@Monster11B I hope all is well, I know this is not the best time to be a cop but keep the morale high!
Beginner-or-not, we can always count on thoughtful, interesting, real-world advice or reviews from Chris Baker/Lucky Gunner.
Thanks, Ken!
Really? Everything he says “admittedly so” in some videos is recycled/regurgitated material 🤦🏻♂️... but hey he’s targeting rookies who think he’s a professional... more power to him 😉🤷🏻♂️
@@mvg03 I guess some people just like to stay up late, have a few drinks, and get on the internet to drop turds on a stranger's sandwich. Hope your life improves to the point that you don't feel the need to go out of your way to spread the misery, buddy.
@@mvg03 new shooters are born every day. Accurate and easy-to-digest intro info is always appreciated
But how can he give real-world advice without skin crawing with ink, or a scraggly beard? I mean, isn't that the "real world"? J/K, I'm subscribed.
I am the lone gun owner amongst my family and friends. “What should I look for in my first gun“ is probably the most common firearm question I get. Now I know where to direct them. As always, you have the best, no-nonsense, fact based approach to firearms. So much of the gun information out there focuses way more on buying a gun rather the responsibility and proficiency required to own one. I am very appreciative that you emphasize the importance of practice and real training.
I know, right? The lack of fake tough guy swagger is refreshing. LG always comes with the facts presented in a laid-back but professional style. Chris is a pro’s pro when it comes to being in front of the camera.
I have been a shooter all my life.
I'm of retirement age now.
I find that my favorite guns to carry ended up being my Ruger LCR revolvers. I also like to carry my S&W J-frames, but I enjoy shooting the Ruger LCR better than the S&W J-Frame, and they both carry about the same. Especially if you get different grips/stocks for them.
Hellcats, Glock 26, Glock 19, 1911's etc. all get left at home.
The Ruger LCR 357 Magnum just does it for me. I feel quite well armed with the LCR 357 mag or the LCR 22. 8 shots of 22 should take care what needs doing.
And for practice, I love shooting my Ruger LCR 22LR.
Out of all the guns I've had, who would have thought that ugly little Ruger LCR would end up being my favorite.
Now that I'm used to having them, they're starting to look better too.
That lcr double action is buttery
Great video...especially on the LCR recommendation. I would add two things to the list....
1. The LCR also comes in 9mm. It gives better performance than the .38 Special with little difference in recoil. Ammo is also cheaper. And the moon clips are not as much a disadvantage when carried in a proper speedloader pouch (can fit two clips in the space of a single speedloader.) Finally, you can shoot it without the clips for practice....just have a pencil handy to knock out the fired cases.
2. If the standard grip on a LCR doesn't fit, there are many options. I like the LCRx grips on my LCR, giving me a full three-finger grip on the gun. Other options are available, and changing grips is an easy action.
Excellent video. My wife bought her first handgun and decided on the shield EZ 9. She shot several different guns and liked it the best. She handles it really well. But like you said everyone is different.
I watch a bunch of gun videos but for a young guy this man actually takes the time to watch you in the face and explain every single detail and his experience. I love your videos sir. Thank you so very much. I’m new to guns to protect and defend myself and my family.
When it comes to youtube gun channels, this is the one to listen to
"The Glock 19 is the Toyota Corolla of the handgun world.“ No truer words have been spoken on the TH-cams. 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I always refer to it as the Honda Camry.
Once again Chris Baker breaking the internet with the best content to be found.
Thanks for this video. I'm what you refer to in your video a a gun "enthusiast". I'm a gun owner that wants to be safe and competent with my weapon, but there are limits on the time and interest I can dedicate to my self defense "hobby". As a result, very little firearms content on the internet feels accessible to me. Most of it seems to have the attitude that if you aren't willing to make shooting the focal passion of your life then you aren't welcome here. And as someone who isn't interested in IRL operator cosplay, the level-headedness and pragmatism of your channel is a breath of fresh air.
Just wanted to say this was, as always, great content.
Agreed completely. Just bought my first handgun and love seeing Lucky Gunners vids
Like a fine Whiskey, this channel just gets better with age.
Thanks! Maybe someday we can be the Aberlour 16 of TH-cam.
@@LuckyGunner like a fine whiskey the beard gets better too!
@@LuckyGunner
LOL. I was introduced to
Aberlour in 1998. It's quite nice. I am mostly a The Macallan fan. The 12 year, aged in Sherry Oak casks.
don't do the whiskey anymore, how about some cheese?
@@2heavyb517 if you wanna go with cheese this is the Walmart brand craft singles knockoff of youtube.
I've been shooter all my life. I was doing this before it got real popular, figuring out weapons and stuff because we we didn't have TH-cam at the time. All that advice you gave was actually really good advice. I had someone to ask,my father, and he steered me to what he recommended and had known from his friends. But your advice is pretty dang good I'll have to say!
Such great advice in this video. Over the years what I usually see is people tend to go for the new, hotshot 9mm pocket rocket first and then they just continually suck at shooting and never end up carrying. I have multiple friends who own one handgun, safe queen G43’s, shields, and now P365’s
"I get it; I don't particularly like Glocks either."
"I don't shoot Glocks any more often than I have to."
This is why I watch this channel. Honesty and lack of flash.
My first handgun was a Beretta PX4. After going to numerous ranges and getting my hands on nearly 20 different guns, it was the one I was most comfortable with. I actually picked it over a Glock 17. Finally bought a Glock as my first .45 - only took 6 years and 4 other firearms first!
I also made the conscious choice to not go with a Glock. I never liked the way they feel in my hand, too chunky. My first (and still only) handgun was a Ruger SR9c; really comfortable to shoot and has been super reliable.
Chris, I want to give you an immense amount of Thank You and Credit for the videos you have done over the years, starting with, "Review: Six 9mm Single Stack Pistols in 60 Seconds" Sep 30, 2014. Your style and delivery are unparalleled in the way that you present the material and back it up with statistics. I have been shooting for over 50 years. You look like you're about the same age as my Grandson and yet I still respect your presentations and your opinions. Thank you very much for your service to the community. Keep it up.
As Chris was describing the reliability of a Glock I was imagining using a metaphor like it’s the Honda Civic of pistols. When he said Toyota Corolla(equally reliable) I laughed at the thought of a bunch of Glock fan boys getting offended that he didn’t describe something “tougher” like a small block Chevy🤣
I was thinking at least a Tacoma not a Corolla lol
@@scotteger6271 depends on the model. The 43 is the Corolla. The 19 is the Camry and the 17 is the Avalon.
Lol, right on
@@johnshepherd8687 what's the 34?
It's more like a VW Bug.
YES, LCR-327. My recommendation for first handgun and daily carry for anyone. 4 cartridges to select from and many great factory loadings.
I agree!!! 💥🔫
Gerard Johnson absolutely agree. Only one problem. Kind of expensive to feed large quantities of ammo compared to .38.
The LCR in 327 loaded with 32 H&R Magnum is probably the best newbie carry gun available today. Crimson Trace laser grips make it even better. But explaining the ammo situation -- the four different calibers, the fact that you should ignore two of them (.32 Short and .327) -- and the cost and availability of .32 H&R Magnum ammo might be a bit overwhelming for a new shooter. Especially on the casual end of the spectrum. If I had the time and ability to personally walk someone through all of that and I didn't think it would be an impediment to them, that's the gun I would most likely set up a non-enthusiast new shooter with.
@@OldPackMule Roll your own!
@@LuckyGunner why ignore 327?
Some excellent points made in this video. Unfortunately too many people go with the 9mm for the first gun. It's a good caliber, but in my experience, staying proficient with it takes too much effort and money -- unless you're the enthusiast that he mentioned. Go to the gun range after a long layoff from shooting and see what happens. Try shooting rapidly (but safely) with the very first magazine (no slow fire practice to get started) then take an honest hard look at the target. If you're not shooting well with that very first magazine, then you won't shoot well in a gunfight, because no one gets to warm-up by firing a couple of magazines before the real action happens.
In my case, I wasn't shooting that often, and I had to downgrade to the 380 caliber, and I'm convinced it was a good decision. I can get consistent rapid hits with my S&W Shield 380 EZ every time I go to the range and right at the beginning of the session, no warmup needed. Too many people are recommending 9mm to those they care about because they are only thinking ballistics, and that is putting the cart before the horse. Ballistics won't help you if you miss.
9mm is the best in terms of cost to performance, that's why it's so popular, and rightly so.
I am considering selling my 9mm and replacing it with the 380 EZ for exactly that reason. I have a Sig P238 that I shoot better than a full sized 9mm, so the EZ looks like a really good idea.
Caliber is a very personal choice. Carry what you can shoot well and consistently. I personally learned pistol shooting with a Glock 23 (compact 40 S&W), and I truly believe it made me a better shooter. I also had the time and money to go shoot often and the willingness to dry practice every day. Someone with less time might consider a 9mm or 380 (preferably the EZ if you go with 380) in a gun that's not too small for them. I like the 380 EZ, but I disagree that 9mm isn't a good starting caliber.
@@0dayExploit Well I agree with you that the 9mm (or 40 S&W) can be a good choice for people who really are going to put in the range time. But even those folks have to continually assess if they are maintaining that proficiency and be reasonable enough to downgrade if their skills fall off, and by downgrade I don't mean to a pocket 380, it has to be, like you suggested, a gun that's not too small for them. But that's assuming that they can afford to take the financial hit to trading in and out of guns.
Just from my casual observations at the gun range over the years, I notice far too many people trying to shoot guns that they simply cannot handle well. The 1911 .45acp seems to be a common culprit, and I'm no 1911 hater at all, but that is just one of many makes and models. It could also be that these bad shooters can't shoot ANYTHING very well, but I strongly suspect they could shoot a mid-sized 380 (locked breech) much better than the 9's and 45's they wasted their money on.
Anyway, as was mentioned at the start of the video, a lot of questions need to be answered before there can be a good recommendation.
If you can’t reliably place shots on target with your first magazine out of a 9MM,
Then that is a you and specifically you problem.
Ruger also makes 2 revolvers (1 chambered in.22 Long Rifle & 1 chambered in.22 Magnum) these 2 revolvers, I believe will be perfect for a new or beginning target shooter.
2020 edition
“9mm is the most affordable”
Uhhhhhhhhh
I was shooting in NRA programs as a dependent at West Point in the 60's and in IPSC in the 80's. Your observations and advise about the current offerings are a welcome breath of reason. Thank you.
Just want to say “Thanks for not changing”! You guys have been my “go to” site, for ammo, since all this craziness started. You always have something in stock, and the prices haven’t changed. Kudos...
I like the shield in the 380 and the LCR in 327 fed mag, 6 rounds vs 5 and newer shooter can use 32 magnum.
327 is going to give you more recoil and muzzle flash than a 38 spec or 380. its an experts caliber.
@@nmende00 And as the OP just stated, you can fire .32 H&R Magnum which is significantly lesser in the recoil/flash department than .327 Federal Magnum.
LG actually did a pretty good video on this already, titled as below:
Why the Best Snub Nose Caliber is .32
They've also covered ammo choices in their FBI-standard hollow point performance testing; with Hornady 80gr FTX -- recorded @1066fps; energy nearly equivilant to .38 Special +P -- performing rather admirably given the caliber choice.
Can even go down to 32acp it dos have a small rim.
@@jessican.1500 one thing you cant get past 38 makes bigger holes, the atomic 38spec +p 148gr backward waddcutter expands to over .70" in a 2" barrel. Also LG is an idiot he legitimately believes 357mag has the same effect on a living target as 9mm he believes energy has literally no effect only penetration and expansion.
My wife likes 32 H&R Mag in her LCR 327 Federal.
Really impressive. Thoughtful, measured and consistent advice. I've watched dozens of Chris' videos and have yet to find something to take issue with.
CB, I'm an old shooter (70) with a couple safes full, but love you insight into people coming from a different space. Always get something out of your entertainment.
I think a pocket gun with a solid pocket holster is the very best first carry weapon for regular civilians as you’ll put it in your pocket at times when you otherwise won’t bother strapping up inside the waist band and get a larger compact for times you want to carry big. The longer I’ve carried the smaller my weapon has gotten. As always I like the reasoned approach of this channel
Taurus G2C. Don't listen to all the olds about how you can never trust a Taurus. It's not the 90's anymore. Go look up *any* review of the G2C and you'll find people singing its praises. It's got the capacity, it's small and easily carried, it has a manual safety which is good for new shooters who aren't yet at that level where they're comfortable with Glocks, M&Ps, etc that don't have a manual safety. It has a loaded chamber indicator, same reason, for those people who need that little extra assurance if it's their first gun. It's ultra-reliable. Again, it's not the 90's anymore. The G2C does what it's supposed to every time. Taurus is putting out quality American made firearms these days. And it's affordable. $200ish dollars brand new. Give it a shot.
You are a very accomplished presenter.
I enjoy your videos because they are well done with no fluff and no annoying background music.
I like the bersa thunder or firestorm: reliable, accurate, easy to shoot, concealable and affordable.
The S&W EZ Shield 380. Is a very good choice.
Totally agree. Love mine. So does the wife.
Mean 4g63 such as?
@@czwarlord9243 like What? Just got one for my mother in law
Love mine! I want the EZ 9mm 😁
@@czwarlord9243 The problem is not the gun, it's the magazine springs. I had the same issue with one of the magazines, I contacted S&W. They sent me new springs for the magazines and that solved the problem.
I love your videos and thought I'd add a bit of info since I'm a new shooter over the last couple of years. I watched dozens of videos just like this one and ended up collecting an H&K P30, a S&W M&P 9mm, a S&W 9mm Shield, and a Glock 19. All polymer pistols. I think they are all great but I was never introduced to an all metal gun until I randomly decided to rent a Sig P229 at a brand new range that opened in my neighborhood. HOLY CRAP! I never new shooting could be so easy and fun! Then I rented a Sig P226 and my world got even better!! The added weight of these pistols makes recoil a breeze and my accuracy increased by 10X overnight. If I was recommending a gun for a new shooter, given my experience, I'd say buy a full metal pistol. The Sig P229 is small enough to carry and far easier to shoot than the Glock, M&P and H&K polymer pistols. Once you master the metal gun, feel free to step up to the polymer but given my expereince I wouldn't start with the polymer guns like I did.
Funny how people's experiences varry.
I started with the M&P Shield 9mm. I was able to control it enough to pass (and have the best grouping in) my CCW class in only a couple trips to the range and maybe 100 rounds.
I then picked up a 9mm, all steel, Jericho 941. It's a great pistol and the recoil is lighter. However I still shoot the Shield far better and pull the 941 down and to the left.
The 941 has more heft, a larger frame, longer sight radius and much lighter and crisper trigger, but the Shield just points more naturally for me.
I hope whatever you pick, you're able to carry it and never had need to use it.
Just texted this vid to 3 coworkers who've never shot a gun before, but now want one all of a sudden. Hopefully they listen to your recommendations.
This is about the most sensible and reasonable overview of the choices I have seen. Well-done!
I’m in enthusiast category. Bought my first gun In high school. .22 rifle. Waited 20+ years to buy my next. In the last three months I’ve bought three guns. 9mm Glock 17 gen 5, Ruger sr1911 45 acp 5”, and a Wilson Combat 11.3” Protector in 5.56. I love shooting them all and have found a new hobby/obsession. Already eyeing my next. Sig p365x for edc.
As an armed professional of many years, I watch dozens of gun videos a day.
This may well be the single best gun video I have ever seen.
I'd love to meet you someday. We would have so much in common.
Big Dave
Great vid Chris. You covered it all. Prefer the heavier Sp101 series over the LCR. Stay Safe-Be Well Everyone! SF
I fell in love with the Kel-Tec P-32 for the lightest and thinnest package in a pocket. 8 rounds of 32 ACP, and it's
The P32 is a surprisingly good gun. I carry one sometimes when I'm out running or on the lake. It's not what I would recommend for a new shooter, but it's probably a better choice than a pocket .380.
jayls5 Only downside is trying to find ammo for under $21.00 per 50 rounds. U can find it online but tax and shipping puts you way over. I have a Beretta Cheetah in .32 acp and I have to go all over to get a box. Even Academy, which is the cheapest, charges $19.00 for the cheap stuff and it goes up from there.
@. Turnock Use only FMJ ammo. Make sure you load the magazine carefully to avoid rimlock. If you've got more than a few hundred rounds through the gun, replace the recoil spring. The P32 is not made to be shot a ton and it goes through springs quickly.
I owned a P-11 and absolutely hated it. Got rid of it and never would own a Kel-Tec again. The PMR 30 tempted me but I haven't caved in yet
@. Turnock i use fiocchi or S&B FMJ in my p32s (I have several). Stock up a bit.
I see a new Lucky Gunner video, and I click, regardless of topic.
Same
Nice
This pretty well mirrors my own thoughts on the subject, particularly the recommendation of a revolver for more casual Shooters who aren't going to put in a lot of training time
People don't think about this when they're complaining about the long heavy trigger pull, but that's actually a safety feature, on a gun that has no mechanical safety
I've always considered that the lighter and shorter the trigger throw on the gun, the less suited it is for a beginner
And the other point that most people forget
With a semi-auto, to be considered truly proficient, you need to practice thousands of repetitions of malfunction clearance grills, aside from dry fire and target practice
With a DA revolver, every time you pull the trigger, that's a malfunction clearance drill
And since people who don't want to put in the thousands of repetitions of practice necessary to make tap rack bang a reflex action is going to be to panic and squeeze the trigger again if the gun goes click instead of bang, that makes the revolver more intuitive
Your presentation style is so good that it needs to be studied by scientists and redistributed to the masses.
Chris is the gun and ammo scholar.
I'm probably one of the few that would still look at a revolver as a beginner handgun, but then I learned to shoot firing .38 semi-wadcutters through my father's plain Jane S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman. And I would still take it over that damned no-name semi-auto that rained hot brass down my neck the gun shop/ range had me try as my first pistol.
Yes, I totally agree, the heavy patrolman shooting light .38 loads is excellent for a new shooter. Very low recoil and excellent single action trigger. It is really harder to learn to shoot well with a gun that has a bad trigger and snappy recoil (like a Glock...).
Among a host of videos on this subject, this one stands out for its intelligence, realism and sense of responsibility. Aside from the clearly-explained justifications for the choices, it's nice to hear an undoubted gun enthusiast tell people to just forget it if they only intend to stow the gun away somewhere and never learn how to use it or practice. I also approve of the comment about the perceived inadequacy of a five-shot revolver. The vast majority of real-world conflicts are resolved by the mere appearance of a firearm - we call this deterrence, and it works with firearms, not just nuclear weapons - and when shots are actually fired they are almost always few in number.
Can you do a video on the mentality for self defense? The hardware is important but so is the software. The thought of having to kill some one is foreign to day to day morality and acknowledgement of the grim possibility is something that is under mentioned in the self defense community. Great video as always
Yeah, we might look into that sometime. In the meantime, search around for articles and podcasts with Dr. William Aprill. He has a lot of excellent stuff on that topic.
My first gun was a .38 special. My first semi was a Walther pps. I eventually graduated to a P365 and sold the Walther pps for credit towards a 12 gauge range shotgun (shockwave). I have a Shield 2.0 for my backup 9mm. The Kimber micro 380 is smooth as silk. It's my pocket carry. I got a Remington 870 tactical that sleeps right beside me.
Chris, thank you for this video. I’ve been shooting rifles and shotguns for over twenty five years, and am just now looking into my first handgun. This video helped me to really think about my selection, and which direction I’m going to go. I find with the gun world, it’s very similar to the performance car world. It’s full of enthusiasts, and they mean well, but ask ten people, and you’ll get ten different answers, and all have strong biases towards one make or another, which is fine, but it’s a bit confusing. You laid it all out there in a simple, honest, and helpful way. Thank you.
Bad comparison about a new driver. Clearly, Miata is always the answer.
Specifically the ND
NathanaelFaunce haha don’t be silly, anything but the NC
@@samuelhollander7939 A NC is fine so long as it's a Mazdaspeed Miata.
Crimsonis I mean.. that’s fair.
Crimsonis NC never came as a Mazdaspeed model. Only the ‘04 and ‘05 years of the NB were Mazdaspeeds.
I'm a big revolver fan. It's the only gun on this list that does not rely on the ammunition for repetitive fire. I agree 100% on getting the lcr 357 for weight, I have one and love it to death. Slick, smooth trigger.
Fordtruckfan89 The LCR has the smoothest double action trigger I've ever pulled...I'm sold on them.
The LCR is a sweetheart, shoot it as well as my G43X
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JeepCherokeeful LCR=my favorite revolver trigger...ever.
Once again, a great presentation, and some surprises, yet plenty of good solid advice. I love that Chris goes out on a limb to make such specific recommendations. My only complaint is that he doesn't make firearm videos more often.
I wish I had seen this 2 years ago when I bought a 10mm glock as my first gun lol. A few weeks later I bought a 9mm sig.
You definitely corrected your poor decision by getting a SIG. Lol
@@DS..69 lol yea I'd say so!
My first gun was a Glock 21, then soon followed by the subcompact 10mm 29. I didn’t regret it. In fact, it lead me into reloading. It’s definitely not the BEST gun to learn with, but it wasn’t horrible. Actually, I just remembered that I bought an XDm 9mm 5.25” as my second gun but sold it for the G29 after like a week. I sold it because I couldn’t shoot it without dropping the magazine. It’s the only gun I’ve ever sold and I regret it. Surely it was due to being a noob.
Holy shit dude! Talk about jumping into the deep end head first. Sig's a solid choice. What did you get? I've got the itch for a P229 Talo Edition, but there are just too many handguns in the stable already that I seldom shoot. Need to thin the herd a little bit before I pull the trigger on that.
Yeah, very similar to getting a Shelby Mustang gt350r for a new driver.
Still, the Glock 20 is a solid gun, stock, and near perfect with upgrades. I got trijicon sights, kkm barrel, and a 22 lb brass stacker recoil assembly. Those upgrades have increased accuracy and durability while decreasing recoil.
A few years ago I asked a friend of mine to help me choose my first pistol . He was an IDF SF pistol instructor. After going through my needs : (lightweight , ultra concealable ,getting out of a situation,not
putting cuffs on the guy. Threats in heavily populated areas) and the time I had to practice (not enough ), he suggested the glock 42 . The l " gun guys" at the store were amazed, even laughed at the "low power " "girl gun"choice. . I'm glad to see that other professionals are not afraid to recommend the 42 chamberd in the lowly 380 acp. (We are only allowed 1 pistol )
My top 5 caveats for a handgun 2020
1. Is there actual ammo available for it? Just because you walk into a gun store and they have handguns, is there ammo to actually shoot it? And/or do you live in a state that allows you to buy ammo online and have it shipped directly to your house? Namely because, as we saw in March, the panic buying cleared just about everything out and backed up online orders for weeks.
2. Are the magazines readily available and affordable to buy more? IE, is it from a reputable brand that sells magazines from a variety of options or is it a pain in the neck to get more than the 1-3 that come stock with the gun. I like to have at least 5 in case one breaks.
3. Is it one that that has a good aftermarket support in case of parts needing to be replaced.
4. Is it just for you or will your significant other also be using it in case you are not around and do they know how to load, unload, and clean it?
5. Do you have the ability to actually go practice with it at a range or in the middle of nowhere on public lands that allow you to go shoot?
I agree with you and have always done this with handguns. I recently started caring way more about your first requirement with long guns lately. If I can't find rifle rounds locally I ignore the caliber.
A pleasure to listen to someone who knows what he is talking about. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Been following Chris for a short time. I really ENJOY what he has to say! Well done!
Great video! I’m sure there are haters because there always is but with all the new gun owners or future new gun owners this is a fantastic resource. Thank you for all your videos sir. I will be pointing all future new firearm owners who ask me for advice to this video. You’re the man!
I chose a Sig P238. With the extended mag, it feels like it was made for my hand. The safety is in such a natural place that I can release it while drawing and it just *flows*
The only drawback (to my mind) is that it takes a 9mm short, and ammo is crazy scarce around here. I do have an iTarget so I can practice without going through so much.
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Chris, I really enjoy your videos. Your video on the 32 caliber series led me to purchase the LCR 327. Your presentations are absolutely on par with Hickok45, Paul Harrell and the late Jeff Quinn. If I'm interested in a particular handgun or topic, I look for your no- frills topic videos to help make up my mind. Keep it up!
Chris, you are a favorite for sure. Common sense and no flash goes a long way. I own about a dozen short barrel EDC guns, Revolvers and Pistols. While Glocks are fine dependable guns, it is important to note like you did, that so many other guns are equally as reliable, some shoot and handle much better edc. Also while I shoot around a thousand rounds per week, I will have to say I just love shooting the LCR. A really fun gun at the range. And as Hickcock45 said about Snubbies, "There is just something about them". Keep up the great work!
Went on your recommendation for the book. Smooth read, very readable. You have to internalize the information.
"Life is just easier with a Glock". This is the single most important thing I can personally say I learned as a new shooter in the enthusiast category. I didn't listen and wanted to be different. I didn't understand all the fuss about Glock, but it's starting to make sense now.
Dang, but that slo-mo of your recoil control is brilliant. Respect.
We got my wife an LCR and I love carrying it. I can literally put it just about anywhere and you wont notice its there. I have pocket carried it (in a holster), IWB strong side, ankle. It is one gun I can appendix carry and sit down with all day and never have any pain. That being said, I prefer something with more rounds... but who am I to complain? Before we got that I used to carry a XDS 45...
My list for noobs:
1) Walther pps m2
2) S&W. 638.
3) Taurus G2C (budget)
Very GOOD video - over all. But, I feel you gave the revolver a bit of a short shrift, perhaps? Namely the Ruger mentioned is quite light weight, has NO provision for single/double action, and weight is your friend when it comes to (felt) recoil especially in the little 5-shot revolver platforms. My opinion, and I'm NOT alone, would be something along the line of the S&W mo 638, a stainless 5-shot revolver with a shrouded hammer: solid, substantial, but compact little piece.
Advantages (over the Ruger): provides single and double action capability, yet the hammer won't catch on anything, and has enough heft along with the rubber grips to be very pleasant to shoot, AND capable too of doing so even with loaded with 357 rounds (125 grain HP). Just my opinion, based on having handled and shot both the Ruger and the S&W 638 especially.
Excellent advice too on the semi-autos!
You can learn virtually everything you need to know about shooting from a Beretta 92FS and I recommend the crap out of them.
My thoughts exactly! I was hoping I wasnt the only one to think they're perfect for first time owners
Yep! I use it exclusively with new shooters, The open slide makes easy to demonstrate and explain how the gun works, how to verify if it’s loaded or clear, mastering a Da trigger sets them up for success on any other gun, and the inherent safety of a Da/sa is great advantage for someone who’s safety practices aren’t quite at the subconscious level yet, the heavy weight, smooth recoil impulse, long and clear sight radius help to. With the right holster it can be cc’d easily as well, i rotate it with a px4 depending if I want a light and dot
It will make you a better shooter, no doubt; but it will require way more time.
A full-size 1911 in 9mm, seems to be a smooth shooter for beginners.
Hefty pistol that will help with the recoil.
Didn’t star make those?
Well I have a glock 17. After the first week it jammed on every shot. What a pain in the ass. After fixing it . It does better. But my first choice is a revolver 357 but I keep 38 loads in it. When a glock jams what are you going to tell the bad guy oh wait my gun jammed. Yea right the good old revolver is just so reliable !
so....I've watched most of your videos. I'm older, the simplicity of a revolver and a 12 gauge pump action shot gun have my vote.
I'm maybe slightly younger... Makes sense to me too.
I learned this from Jim Cirillo. To see if a gun fits your hand properly, start with your finger positioned properly on the trigger. Then, wrap the rest of your hand around the gun. If the gun is in alignment with your forearm, it's good. If it's off to one side or the other, it's either too large or too small. For a right handed person, if the gun points off to the right, the gun's grip is too large for you. If it points to the left, it's too small. Sometimes, exchangeable grip panels, back straps or shorter/longer triggers may fix this situation. Sometimes, a different gun is needed.
The reason this system is important is because it makes quick, reflexive/point shooting much more accurate. Jim was in more gunfights than most. He logged over 40 gunfights and nearly as many kills, about half of which were while he was on the Stakeout Squad with NYPD.
RIP, Jimmy. You made the world a safer place.
I just purchased a Smith and Wesson 642 revolver and it kicks! My trigger finger turns red ever time. I also got the M&P9 Shield EZ.
In the soul of updating this list I would definitely consider adding the Taurus 942 8 Shot 22WMR!!
I wouldn't overlook the idea of getting a 22lr as a first gun either. My wife tried to start with 9mm and it had too much recoil and made her disinterested in shooting. I got a Taurus TX22 and she started shooting again thanks to that firearm. We have since gotten her the Shield EZ 380 and she was surprised at how little recoil it has and how enjoyable it is to shoot, like the Taurus was.
I'd also say I had a LCR and although it's DAO trigger was better than most, I wish I would've gotten the LCRx with the exposed hammer. I have a S&W J-Frame, Model 360 in 357 mag with a hammer. It weighs about 16oz and I shoot mostly 38 special from it and it is pretty accurate even in DAO. With the 357's and hammer cocked I can make accurate shots at 15 yards or more. I shoot it way more than I ever shot the LCR. Personal preference I suppose.
You had me at "Go buy a gun", some guy on the internet..
Yep, i bought 6 this year. I just sighted in my new Ruger 57, and pick up my new Springfield Hellcat tomorrow. I might pick up a .32 magnum if they have any while i'm there.
Thank you so much Chris for the book recommendation for us who love personal library that will be a very good addition
Suggestion for new video - how about measuring the decibel level at the shooter's ear, firing different firearms in a closed room? For example, a .38 snubbie, .357 snubbie, 9mm short barrel, 9mm 5" barrel, .40 5" barrel, .45 5" barrel, 9mm 16" carbine, and 5.56 16" barrel. Another part of this that would be nice would be comparing hot, subsonic, and "low noise/low flash" versions.
Thanks for the suggestion. We've been thinking about doing something like that.
Lucky Gunner Ammo I‘d love that, too!
Excellent advice and cautions.
Very thoughtful.
Another EXCELLENT video Chris, thank you for doing this. You're the man. To all the new shooters out there, (1) Welcome to the Pleasuredome, be safe out there; and (2)Rest assured that Chris is giving you sound advice in this video.
Hi Chris. Well done as always! Regarding the LCR, I really think that the 9mm version could very well would be a good choice. Considering the weight, muzzle velocity of the 9mm, smooth double action and full moon clips for rapid reload I feel that it would be a winner, especially with Underwood Extreme Defender ammunition. Their 65 grain 9mm is rated at ~1800 fps out of a 4” barrel. It would be great to see how it does in chronograph and terminal ballistic testing. Hint, Hint.
An LCR in 327 Federal Magnum would be a good choice also. You get an extra round and you can shoot H&R Magnum or even 32 S&W for less recoil. The holes are a little smaller, but there is good ammo for the 32 class. It does cost more than the 38/357 stuff though, unfortunately.
Yall ever gonna get any ammo back in stock so we can actually shoot them though? 😅
For almost 25 years my wife has shot a Taurus 85, and shot it well. Last year I bought her a Shield EZ 380. She hated semiauto handguns but really likes the EZ. Great gun. The big thing for her was the ease of racking the slide. I have a Ruger LCR, best double action trigger out there. It is my truck gun. As for Glock.... no thanks. I prefer my H&K VP9 and VP9SK. Much better triggers.
This video was exactly what I needed. I am a beginner, and did not know how to start. Thank you, well done.
My first handgun was/is (Still own it) a Ruger Blackhawk (yes..Single action) chambered in .357 (or .38 special as the video explained) in the 6 1/2 inch barrel. Ever since then, I have always had a fondness for wheel guns.
A friend is looking for a 9 ounce gun with a 2 pound trigger pull that has no kick, no noise & can drop a gorilla with one shot. She's tried my guns & rented several 22, 380, 38 & 9mm in all different sizes. At some point we must adjust to the gun because none of them are perfect. Otherwise we go unarmed. Better to have a less-than-perfect gun than nothing. She did sign up for a new shooter class so she'll learn that all guns go bang, have recoil & take practice to hit targets with.
Chris, I think you'd sell a lot more ammo if you guys had flat rate shipping - I finally checked you out recently and found everything but zeroed the order once it calculated the shipping cost. My 2¢
The biggest problem is often finding a holster that 1- fits your gun and 2- fits your needs. Some guns just don't seem to be on the holster makers radar. I carry a FNs-9 and holsters are few and far between. I do leather craft and made the one I wear but I looked for a kydex....not much to choose from and try adding a light....and left hand.... Got to say...you make some of the best videos on you tube. Thanks.
"Life is easier with a glock"
Except in Massachusetts :(
Nice place... to visit.
@@jshepard152 and not visit for long..... have been there.... the seafood is terrific, and I liked the Constitution. Other than that.....
This is one of a handful of premiere gun channels with solid, well-reasoned advice. Kudos to Chris Baker and Lucky Gunner. I'd also add a 3-inch barreled 38 special revolver into the mix as a best handgun for new shooters. That added inch of barrel length puts the extra weight right where you want it, to help manage recoil and muzzle flip.
Another good video Chris. With a market so saturated with solid choices, you still did well at breaking down the choices. Your ability to give thorough explanations for your decisions, allows the audience to use the same processes in making their own decisions.
I shot for the first time yersterday. I tried the Sig P226 and the Glock 19. I shot much, much better with the Glock 19. It felt easier to hold, and I was more confident with it.
The P226 is a DA/SA weapon and will take a little more practice, as you'll have to learn 2 trigger pulls, but the trade off is better risk mitigation if you carry given the hammer.
Y'all should do a holster episode.
Revolver shooter here. I used to think revolvers were great for any beginner shooter.
But that was the wheelgun lover in me talking. I don't recommend them for newbies anymore. I've come to realize that while shooting a revolver is easy (simple to operate), shooting them well is not (mastering the long double action trigger pull).
I really applaud Chris for making the distinction between enthusiasts and casual shooters. If you're not really planning to spend a lot of time at the range, a revolver is not a good choice. Maybe it'll do when you really need to defend yourself, but you're probably better off with a Glock.
That said, if you intend to go to the range and put in the hours, if you intend to learn about guns and marksmanship, and you're genuinely, sincerely interested in shooting revolver: GO FOR IT. Revolvers are wonderful firearms, and mastering revolver shooting is a worthy endeavor.
Also, more props to Chris for recommending the .357 Mag version of the Ruger LCR instead of the .38 Special version. There were reports when the LCR first came out of frame stretching after 5,000 rounds because of the .38 Special version's aluminum frame. The .357 Mag is much tougher with its steel frame. Those same reports said the gun still functioned properly, but I'd prefer a gun that ultimately wasn't trying to destroy itself. Maybe Ruger has since addressed that, but the .357 Mag LCR is something you can bring to the range regularly thanks to being a bit heavier weight. I'd prefer an SP101 for even less felt recoil, but Chris' recommendation is a reasonable, respectable choice.
I got my CCW with a snub nosed revolver. I appreciate the LCR Ruger because there is purpose being every trigger pull. Also, if someone gets in close range and tried to take the gun from me, there is almost nothing they can do to jam the gun. With a .38 s and .357 mag load out, I can practice with the .38s and have the 357 hp for defense.
Wouldn't it be better to practice with the ammo you use for home defense? Keeps more variables constant
I dislike all of the guns you mentioned, BUT I carry a Glock 19 when I carry an auto and for the reasons you stated, the 17 is also good. I balk at the LCR for new shooters as it can be more challenging and I would prefer a S&W M 60 with a 3” barrel and adjustable sights. As for the Glock, training is key and keep your bloody finger off the trigger until you’re ready to shoot it’s probably the easiest gun to shoot yourself with. The DA/SA autos are better in that regard but require much more practice because of the two trigger pulls. All in all a very good and well thought out video and one of the very few that recommend wad cutters in the .38. Bravo, Jim Cirillo agrees and that is a pretty strong recommendation.
Great video. I kinda expected a mid-size revolver recommendation too for casual shooters though.
I wish I had heeded the idea of just going Glock early on. Finding holsters for handguns that aren't the darlings of the industry is a collosal pain in the ass
Especially when you begin to add things like lights and optics. Even with having firearms that are popular, but not quite as popular as Glock, finding a holster set up for a specific light and specific mrds becomes dang near impossible. Custom made holsters have become my only option. While I have always been pleased by the custom holsters I've purchased, I can't help but be jealous of the market support that Glocks enjoy. Bought a brand spanking new Gen2 g17 way back in the day and promptly returned it to the store as I thought it was defective. Turns out it was just me. Should have kept it and learned how to shoot it
I'm old enough to remember when Glocks came out and got a bad rep. Some exploded or something
@@the_weed_in_your_garden9319 they still do look up the glock model 44.
Smith and Wesson has as much after market but it doesn't feel like a brick glued to a 2x4
All good choices.... yet the top Ruger LCR for new or old shooters in the 327 Fed Magnum. It shoots 32 HR mags that feel like a 22LR. Gun Sam has some great videos of the damage the 32 HR Mag can do. Even the SW 32 Long does good damage.
Great choice! Recently, my local FFL had a big pile of 32 long on the shelf for $19 a box and every time I went there everyone was fighting over the $30 a box 9mm, so I would pick up a couple boxes of the 32. For weeks the 32 remained on the shelf. I kept buying it till it was gone! 32 better than nothing!
The only thing I would add to your information is 22 lr for a first hand gun. Lots ood options inexpensive to shoot, less intimidating for a new shooter.