Internet sleuths race to identify suspect in healthcare CEO shooting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- Amateur internet sleuths are racing to identify the gunman who killed the chief of the nation’s largest health insurer in midtown Manhattan on Wednesday, hoping to piece together clues and beat police investigators at their own high-profile manhunt.
The shooter seemingly vanished after being caught on video in one of the world’s most surveilled cities, offering an online community of wannabe detectives a tantalizing case. They pored over street footage and digital data to guess his brand of backpack, debate how he had silenced his pistol and scrutinize his getaway bike.
But they are being confronted online by a rival movement: users who have lionized the gunman over an unconfirmed belief that the killing was an act of rage over the health insurance industry. They have shared memes branding the shooter as a “folk hero” and warned digital vigilantes not to track him down. “Anyone who helps to identify the shooter is an enemy of the people,” said one post on X with 39,000 likes.
Caption from article by Drew Harwell, Caitlin Gilbert and Douglas MacMillan.
I'm gonna be honest, I can't tell if the individual in the photo is male or female. Really wish I could see better, but vision isn't covered by my insurance.
First one looks like Anne Hathaway and second like Jake Gyllenhaal
lmao
Are we even sure it's a human? Looks a lot like 3 well dressed racoons to me
think it’s male, i see faint hair above the lip in the second image. (edit - i have now realized that this was a joke)
@tubbyidk1474 interestingly, many real women have faint mustaches.
My best friend died two years ago of stomach cancer.
United healthcare refused to cover everything. The family needed help from a charity just to put their son into hospice care.
So sorry for your loss. Wish that never would’ve happened.
So shameful. I'm so sorry you and your friend and his family had to endure needless suffering. I hope you are healing as well as you can.
So u want them to cure cancer?
@brian8507
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Who said that?
Are you making stuff up as a knee jerk defense of bad health insurance?
@@brian8507 The CEOs won't pick you lil bro
i busted my nose up to the point of not being able to continue breathing at all through it. my insurance refused to cover it stating: “a nose is an optional airway”
Wtf
forcing you to be a mouth breather is crazy
Making you be stupid is crazy
Ain’t no way
'Murica. Land of the free. And by free, I mean free to exploit the public.
I can't believe that CEO guy shot himself three times in the back. Crazy
Yea, wow. The world is such a strange place
I can’t believe we all suddenly developed intense face blindness too. Crazy
How insane. Unfortunately eyesight isn't covered by insurance really wish I could help.
I wish I could give this comment two likes instead of just one
Just like a few female military officers! (I paused a true crime podcast and sounds just like this!)
Wow. Who would’ve thought that a healthcare CEO whose company denies 30% of all claims and uses an ai that denies claims incorrectly 90% of the time, would be unpopular. It’s almost as if people like getting the service they paid for, and don’t want to die a horrific death because their heart medication was deemed “a luxury”
Yeah the medication formulary which changes annually
To put it on perspective how hated Brian Thompson was, even Ben Shapiro's own viewers cooked him for trying to make them feel sorry fo Thompson.
You are wrong sir! They deny 36% of claims lol
The company he was ceo of also stopped paying for anesthesia after a time limit in a surgery. After the assasination they revoked it.
@@Doodlesnchill You're confused : that was Anthem, not United Healthcare, and they were just "discussing" it, they hadn't done it yet.
Not saying UH wouldn't have followed suit once Anthem implemented this policy.
Pretty revealing that Anthem really **didn't need** this policy if they could backtrack this easily.
Well, at least this "murderer" can argue that he prevented atrocious pain for dozens of thousands Americans in the near future…
Are we sure the bullet wound wasn't a preexisting condition?
Poor guy was born with it. Sad that Insurances nowadays don’t cover Birth defects
Are we sure it was even a bullet? I think it was acute lead poisoning
W
😂😂😂😂
was looking exactly for this
I worked as a biller, and we were denied a feeding pump for a child with a diagnosis of "inability to swallow." Apparently, eating is not medically necessary. I appealed it, and they covered the pump for our patient, but you have to be on top of these mfers.
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UHC: Starve for 365 days challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
My son is on a tubie. I'd be willing to wager the diagnosis code was incorrect or the verbiage was too vague.
@@talleywa5772 Or they used their AI for it, which is wrong 90% of the time. That would explain why the appeal caught it because appeals are likely not handled with the AI (I hope...)
Wow that’s disgusting 🤦♀️ Imagine dealing with the stress of a kid who needs a feeding tube and having to jump through hoops just so your kid has the right to eat in the richest country in the world..
Good on you for helping!
I have United Healthcare. They won’t cover my wife’s Lyme treatment because she didn’t seek treatment for it as a child. When she was a child and didn’t know she had gotten it.
Sorry, that's a preexisting condition! 😊
“You had disease before you walked in here? Sorry, but we can’t cover it”
Not supporting United but Lyme disease is very noticeable when you get it.
@@kaushikrj5909 They were a child
@@kaushikrj5909 "Mom, I don't feel good."
"Walk it off."
Welp, still your fault.
I live in midtown Manhattan, but unfortunately I developed significant onset of macular degeneration in both of my eyes within the past week. My claim was denied. I would help if I could, officer.
Hmm, for some reason I have become blind after the news broke out.
What? You're saying that's impossible!? It's my body! I can do what I want with it! You clearly discriminate against the people who chose to be blind! See you in court!
@@Not_interestEd- why'd you have to make it weird, man?
@@bee5464he didnt
Are you sure the blindness wasnt a preexisting condition?@@Not_interestEd-
@@eternallk1ngs_57Your pfp checks out as someone who doesn't know what's weird.
The funniest thing is that Twitter guy was wrong anyways, the police already confirmed that the guy didn't use a citibike
probably a troll then
Huh. I've seen many people say it was a city bike.
Nah it was a citibike
If theyre saying it WASNT a citibike? Yeah then it's a citibike. Are you catching the drift?
@adrianthoroughgood1191 yeah, a lot of people were claiming it was a citibike or some other rental bike. But those were people making that assumption off of a single blurry picture of the bike. Police just think it's a normal bike
wasn't it a scooter?
Unfortunately my condolences, as well as thoughts and prayers require pre-authorization. I would apologize, but unfortunately those arent covered.
Maybe they are out of network.
Maddening.
I thought they only paid for concepts of thoughts and prayers.
you have to pay a $50 co-pay for each apology.
My health insurance won't cover my inhaler because I didn't try "alternative treatment methods first". I was diagnosed with asthma in the 4th grade- I'm not really sure what to do here.
Switch insurances. If the insurance doesn’t work switch it! It’s literally not that hard. People here are acting like they’re in slavery😂
Switch insurance companies and find a lawyer.
@@TheSignofJonah777 this is the only insurance offered through my employer and the only thing that's really awful about it. I have had worse so I'm genuinely wondering what to do now. I'm luckier than most.
@@arachnidheist maybe try other methods first?
@@TheSignofJonah777 ah cuz everyone is just rolling in the money to get on whatever insurance they want, thanks for the advice!
So sad. My eyewear isn't covered by insurance, so my glasses are too scratched to see the guy's face. Huh.
He’s clearly faking and drug seeking
Plus it’s a cosmetic procedure for him to get life saving treatment
Plus he had bullets in him before he died, preexisting condition, no coverage
Eye insurance is like dental insurance, it's bearly a couple bucks a month. You likely spend more on coffee of softdrinks in a week than you would on decent eye insurance coverage for s month.
@@sumduma55TH-cam mobile being dumb but you’re right I’m thinking of the copay not the plan itself.
Somebody clearly doesn't understand the joke 🤣😂🤣
@theburgerking1236 eye insurance is on average $5 to $30 a month and dental is generally cheaper - at least around here. I'm sure people can find much more expensive plans. But a soda a day or a coffee a day is over 10 bucks a week and likely a lot more depending on where you buy it.
If it's vigilante justice, that means we can narrow the suspects down to anyone who was screwed over by the CEO's company. That narrows it down to....... 30 million people.
Well that’s an assumption it could be anyone with a slight moral capacity and sympathy for people who are dying so that widens the search to about 5.5 billion
Health insurance has tried to deny me coverage for the anti-rejection medication that I have to take to not die as a heart transplant patient. They denied it because they deemed it a "luxury" medication. Nothing of value was lost by losing this merchant of death.
Damn, having a beating heart is a luxury these days?
Do you really need blood anyways?
@inutamer3658 it's more of the man is in the business to deny people things for more money instead.
@@inutamer3658I think you missed the entire point my dude
@@inutamer3658 Right, so let me explain what insurance means. Effectively you pay a monthly fee and should you ever need expensive medical treatments the insurance will pay to cover your treatment.
How profiting off this works is that most people will buy insurance just in case and never end up needing it, therefore the people who *do* end up needing it are covered by the people who don't.
Naturally you don't know which group you belong in so it's safer to just go for medical insurance considering the consiquences are lethal. Now in this case the issue is that despite *paying for insurance* the medical insurance company tried to reclassify a needed for survival medication into a "luxury" so they wouldn't need to pay for it. Considering the circumstances I'm going to assume that OP wouldn't have been able to afford the medication without the insurance *he paid for.*
In other words they callously tried to murder someone who paid for their services so that they would save money.
As a very wise man once said : "well, as a matter of fact im actually blind in my left eye... And 43% blind in my right eye.
I dont see much of nothin'... matter of fact i dont even see you sir"
I have seen that interview clip before. Could you please remind me who that was?
@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye its on youtube
Unfortunately United denied my hearing aids, so I didn’t catch a word of that.
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I absolutely love every sassy comment on this matter, I am not American, but as a disabled person I have heard so many horror stories.
@@captain-chair it's so tempting to say something like "this person didn't, though"
Before you think about how he's a father of two, think about all the fathers of two he murdered.
Ye
Who did he gun down? Link?
@@nicholas6252lol dude he restricted coverage and killed thousands of people
@@nicholas6252he’s the ceo of the largest insurance company (and the 4th largest company in the us) that denies 32% of insurance claims by using an ai that had a 90% failure rate. there’s a lot more blood on his hands from the deaths of people that his company denied to give insurance to so they could save money.
@@nicholas6252 He probably denied health insurance to probably plenty of the victims of mass shootings in the U.S.
Just a guess, given how the U.S. healthcare insurance system seems to work.
Unfortunately, murder investigation isn't covered by your insurance...
Pre existing condition. Already shot when the police were called
OUT OF NETWORK!!!
Nope, it’s controlled by public policy. Just like The insurance companies are but keep blaming the father of two for the issues politicians you voted for caused
@ source?
@dustincaso6781 not gonna mention how the ceo is also part of the reason why things cost so much? What about other parents that died becuase of what their company decided was a rule 😂 keep trying to defend a live pos I personally hope this is a wake up call for politics and the insurance field alike
How sure are we that his being dead wasn't a pre-existing condition? I vote that we deny their application for an investigation.
I honestly don't care who this person is. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't exist The CEO died as a result of a pre-existing condition and he didn't have a prior authorization for being alive.
His job was a pre existing condition
To quote Discworld:
"They say he died of natural causes."
"Well, being assassinated is natural causes for a king."
Reminds me of a door monster skit
Tbf, abortions probably wasn’t legal back then and protection may have been frowned on…
We can all see at those bullet wounds were self-inflicted. They meet all the criteria of the FBI standard for self-inflicted gunshot wounds.
10/10 comment
Sorry, my sympathy is out of your network
It’s sad that ceo died but is there really any proof that he was killed by the gun? He probably had that hole in him since we was a kid, it’s honestly his fault for not getting it checked out sooner
"they had us in the first half, not gonna lie"
I sincerely wonder if the three words found had a specific order and the guy is mildly annoyed we keep saying them out of order.
"Delay deny defend" is a slogan used to describe how insurance companies avoid paying on claims. The only question is whether it's "Depose deny defend" or "Deny defend depose". And since deposing someone, e.g. a monarch, generally ends their story if not their life, it makes sense to place it last.
@@InfiniteAnvil It could also refer to "deposition", i.e. the insurance company defending its wealth in court. They have heavily invested in their legal departments.
Or it could be both - a double entendre.
@@Dracalis I love poetry.
@@InfiniteAnvil I didn't know that was an insurance business description before, thank you (genuinely)
@@InfiniteAnvilit's probably supposed to be deny defend depose, as kind of a double entendre about what the medical insurance industry does (denying claims which leads to their customer's deaths, or maybe causing the radicalization of their customers which lead to the ceo being killed) and also his act against them (denying and defending against the medical insurance industry's attacks on the people, by killing the ceo)
All I saw was a murderer unaliving a mass murderer.
You already used murder twice whyd you put unaliving
@totallyreyalfactsfsfsfr this comment could be funnier if he actually used “killing” 😭😭
@totallyreyalfactsfsfsWhat, you prefer sleeping with the fishies?
Like many people, I was sad until the word healthcare CEO
Yeah....sort of like saying "a man died"....."and it was Jeffrey Dahmer." Just so hard to summon up compassion for someone who had zero compassion for the SICK and SUFFERING in this life
@@Mandai-f2dYour right. That’s unfair to JD. Health insurance has caused way more suffering.
@@Mandai-f2d Are you paid by someone?
I just find it comical to think that someone is whining about the poor healthcare CEO below EVERY comment without pay.
Reminder that the police wouldn’t be trying this hard for your murder, so say it with me guys, my vision isn’t covered by insurance.
People still ask "why," as if there aren't people who haven't gone bankrupt because of medical bills, even though they had insurance. Or, as if there aren't people getting procedures or medication denied. I don't condone the extreme measure, but, I wouldn't want to be on the jury that determines his innocence either.
Your friendly reminder that medical expenses are the most common cause of bankruptcy
@NoProblemoyk Medical debt is also one of the largest forms of debt in America
I mean, jury nullification is technically an option.
Don't have to feel sorry! The jury can nullify it
I was 19 when I filed for bankruptcy for medical debt. 1 year, over $20,000. And that was over 20 years ago. Best time was when I had free health care while my hubby was in the army. Now I am back to being denied medication, jumping through all sorts of hoops. And can't forget about the year when I had 2 insurances, and had to fight for almost the whole year because they wouldn't cover copays until I reached a deductible. But they did "make adjustments" that none of the 12 doctors had ever seen before, trying to rob me of $600 that I didn't have to pay. Again, SECOND INSURANCE. Not even paying the bulk of cost.
Damn. You know what's crazy? That bulletin board is really paying for itself
How?
@athullnexus5450 its a running gag. Something about it being a business expense or tax write off
@@noahsabin7386ah I see. Thanks.
UnitedHealth denied my disabled Uncle healthcare he needed, so I deny Brian any sympathy. It is really interesting how tone deaf the media is on this.
Also tone def to so quickly discount and disregard human life, even the lives of those that have wronged you.
@@DoctorSurgeonyour ears must be working funny because this man is singing on tune. Might wanna get that checked at a doctor.
@@DoctorSurgeon I have no sympathy for a man that prioritizes profits over human life. Millions of people have suffered in America because of the privatized healthcare system, and UHC is one of the stingiest health insurances out there. Unfortunately, it's still the "best" option for many
They're tone deaf by saying murder is kind of uncool? Most outlets I've seen haven't even been that harshly against it, they say things like "We understand and can sympathize with the situation, but that's kind of a not good way to deal with it."
@@DoctorSurgeonsorry I don’t mourn somebody who has caused tens of thousands of deaths. Do you also want people to feel sympathetic for Osama Bin Laden?
"father of two." And I wonder how many fathers lost their children because of United Healthcare's practices?
Honestly, with how evil he was, the kids will be better off raised without him too. They'll be sad until they're old enough to understand what their dad did. Assuming their mom and other caregivers don't turn them into affluent monsters as well. This might of actually prevented that future for them overall too. Knowing that being a greedy SOB is life threatening for once.
Yeah it’s gross they keep saying that instead of what he actually was
There's a meme of Elon Musk saying how this is a tragedy and people are being heartless, since CEOs are important to providing profits for shareholders.
That’s so tone deaf I don’t think even DOGS can hear it
Probably not a meme lol!
Won't someone please think of the shareholders?!?!
@r.pizzamonkey7379 someone plz think of the poor shareholders! Their stocks might only rise 25% instead of 27%!
It's fake as heck
I love how a fast majority of us really don’t want the guy caught
Collectively the majority of ppl tuning in across the globe, or those who were in the area are suddenly dumb, deaf and blind😂
Who’s us?
Vast*
@@marjorie666so VERY helpful if you to correct someone’s obvious typo
We, the people, I assume. @@Blam_Time
Police should narrow down the list of suspects by checking who got some claim denied by the company. That should help...
Probably wont narrow it down by too much, it would just be a list of who uses united healthcare
@@lunatheluma3804I think that’s the joke
It's like finding a bloody needle in a needle stack.
That’s a start I guess, maybe they’ll find out who in the next 40 years.
As one show said "ok so it's an American who got issues with their health insurance and have easy access to firearms, that should narrow it down"
Yes, from 330 million people to 326 million people, progress!
I’m pretty sure that’s a time traveler so trying to catch him will be useless. The police should give up now rather than expend resources in a futile attempt to identify this man who, by now, has returned to the year 2540.
That movie would go so hard tho
Imagine they used AI to find the guy but currently he's like 9 💀
A person in a similar jacket doesn’t equal a suspect lol
The guy they thought was him didn’t even have the right color backpack either it was completely different from what I know
I can't really tell, my claim wrt to my cataracts was denied.
The guy in the actual shooting video had a jacket with no pockets yet that jacket has two. Probably just going to pin it on someone innocent just to make an example 😢
@@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951 yup, they need their oligarchs happy and feeling safe that and to keep the proletariats in line. I mean just look at how fast they are finding the guy and how much effort they are putting in compared to the random POC teens that disappears all the time, or how much the media is pushing this story, they are scared.
8 million people live in New York. Good odds that at least two of them own that jacket.
Not Guilty, case dismissed.
See? Even rich bastards would benefit from us having universal healthcare!
How about you get a job and pay for it?
@@touchmeharder1737what do you think taxes are? Also, how do you think insurance works? You get that everyone pays into a common pool and claims are paid out from that, right? With single payer, everyone would pay into a single pool through taxation and claims would be paid out from there. The benefit is that there's not some greedy middlemen inflating prices and gouging hardworking Americans, so it cost would be significantly lower than what we already pay for insurance now, plus everyone would have access to healthcare.
@@touchmeharder1737 if only having a job automatically paid for healthcare in USA like it does in most other nations as wealthy (or often less so,) than it
@@touchmeharder1737
I'm so happy with my European social healthcare system. And I pay quite well for it, but occasionally I need it and therefore don't have to move into a car straight away. Whereas private insurance, which is also available here, offers attractive premiums at a young age, but becomes very expensive and/or covers fewer benefits in old age.
Ok, probably still better than the US system, which is basically expensive (tax money plus premiums) and you still get "nothing".
@@touchmeharder1737 Total spending on American health care is already about half government tax money (government employees, military, medicare+aid, "private" insurance subsidies). But that total spending is also twice what it is in Canada or Europe. So you are already spending the SAME amount of tax money the universal systems do, you're just also doubling up and spending the same amount again on private equity middlemen and insurance companies. All for a worse outcome: pretty similar quality of care, partial coverage, and economic ruin for the really sick.
"Race to identify" is a weird way to say "collectively shrug". 🤷🏼♀️
I'm a nobody. That means that when I'm murdered by the system that has income inequality like we have today, nobody is going to investigate.
Nobody cares for me, I don't care for him.
My guy that’s completely incorrect. Even though everyone hates them, police still show up to do their jobs.
I ain't snitching on Robinhood
Have to love the public reaction of just “we don’t care, he made bank off of OUR suffering,”
A murderer *
@@jonbrowning7340 Precisely
@jonbrowning7340 sure, but who got rid of someone who profited off the deaths of thousands of people, so more like self-defense? Either way, nothing of value was lost
@@jonbrowning7340 yeah, sure, but our country is in such a state of decay and lunacy that people by legal means can’t do anything about it.
Teachers literally got banned from protesting on how bad their pay was BY THE GOVERNMENT. Sorry like I know people would have liked to do something about this that wasn’t murder but, genuine, the only people who could stop it is the people who benefits off of decreased Insurance.
Greed is a hard thing to stop once you had a taste for it.
A news article I read said his motives were still unclear.
*The article reported what was on the casings*
To be fair, some talking heads have speculated those bullet casings could be red herrings in the circumstance that this killing was motivated by more personal reasons (i.e., reasons having nothing to do with his career).
@@MM-jf1mewhat I heard was the possibility of it being a hit job.
Wild my contact lenses werent covered this week like they were last. Sorry officer.
United Health Group is like number 4 on the Fortune 500 list. A company that should essentially be pooling the money that everyone pays in premiums and then using it when one of the people needs to pay medical bills is making enough profit to be number 4 on the list of fortune 500 companies. They made $22 billion in 2023. They made $22 billion in 2020 when they should have been paying out for medical bills in record numbers. The fact that it's not criminal is insane to me.
I wonder how many other children are fatherless because the ceo.
Im so sorry for his family… having to live with infinite wealth in a country that serves the rich. Having to not spend time with a person so devoid of morality that he didn’t just idly sit by as he hurt people, but actively made changes to increase profits.
Some people just have it so hard.
That poor poor family. Oh no. Anyway.
Are you that heartless that you can’t sympathise with people who lost a loved ones because they are rich? You think they would rather keep the money than having their father back?
INFINITE WEALTH HOLY SHIT
I do feel sorry for the kids who didn’t have a say in their dad’s actions. But I do not feel sorry at all for the CEO
He was a psychopath who murdered millions of people. I severely doubt he was a good father and husband.
Do you know this suspect? Did you see them? No you don't and no you didn't.
I saw him once in a dream officer, does that count?
i see clearly that the suspect is an old hispanic lady around 4feet 6 inches in height and wears thick glasses
Unfortunately, my help on this case can only be paid out of pocket and you’ve exceeded your deductible.
4chan ain’t finding that guy. If anything they’re gonna help him return to anonymity as they should. I wish I could say something, but my insurance doesn’t cover it.
4chan would actually probably find him, if they're capable, but I doubt it, it's generally mostly Nazis on that site, and Nazis are pretty pro corpo
They'll probably "accidentally" find other healthcare CEO's to get "uninsured".
pol is insisting that the ceo is a hero that was murdered by nancy pelosi to stop him from testifying against democrats.
because pf cpurse they are.
Make CEO's Afraid Again. Anyone that feels upset over this, other than his loved ones losing someone, needs to realise that he called this upon himself. His policies killed and ruined millions of people. There's consequence to action, and people in power need to relearn they're not above that
Ehh...nah, when I found out my ex was a monster, I felt physically sick. She married a monster, and to me, it is like telling me to feel sorry to the wife of Hitler, Mao, or Stalin. People begging for their lives after paying into a system that supposed to help you. I work in the health field and I see this all the time. People dying from cancer and those who have no quality of life that just want to die to end their suffering. Telling an 85 year old that we can't give him pain meds he needs because he might become addicted to them because his crippling back arthritis isn't... yeah I don't feel bad at all.
@@gaylynnhorncribad analogy, given mao and stalin actually made CEOs afraid.
I do feel sorry for the dude but that's probably because I don't live in a country with a dysfunctional health system.
No, if you want to be upset you need to look at the government regulations that force insurance companies to act this way. They have a 2% profit margin.
@newtec-kd6vy Regulation is not the problem, big pharma is. There shouldn't be a middle man in this equation to begin with
>Internet sleuths "racing" to find them
Yeah, they're *really* working hard on it 😂😂
Sorry. Our empathy just isn't covered.
Important info: the people he had a meeting with literally just stepped over him and held the meeting on time, and his position was up for grabs five hours later. Companies couldn’t care less if you died.
Sounds like they need to run out of people to elect. Not sure how. Maybe they'll all end up with claims denied.
I mean they care it takes time and training and the transitional period to fill the role is always less efficient so they for sure lost some money on that deal… oh do they care beyond the impact of the bottom line no no they do not
“Many people suspect it was vigilante justice.”
“Why?”
Literally everyone: *looks at the camera like it’s The Office*
I love how everyone are just agreeing that this is an expected reaction of running a shady health insurance company
united healthcare denied coverage for a psych hospital stay because they didn't deem it "medically necessary." it was an involuntary stay and i literally couldn't leave.
That old hispanic woman on that photo sure is hard to see from the CCTV
Everyone in NYC should be reading up on Jury Nullification!
Man it’s a shame this individual will remain unidentified
Yeah... especially for his widow and kids
Even if the guy gets captured, imagine the nullification
It will be very hard to find a jury that did not get a claim denied, ever...
So a guy that resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths, has died? Unfortunately my eye surgery wasn’t covered so I didn’t see anything officer.
My hospital stay after my lung collapsed was denied and deemed unnecessary. Unfortunately my eyes went completely murder-blind during this incident, officer :/
This short is incredibly accurate. There are only three people online looking to help.
All of them look suspiciously like JD Vance..
Two men were talking about this today. One described the murder, and said, "There's some crazy people out there."
The other said, "Yeah...Too bad his (psych) meds weren't covered by insurance!".
If you think you recognize the suspect, no you don't.
I'm sorry for his spouse and children but he will not be missed for what he has done.
Apparently his spouse didn't even care when told about it and even made a joke. The fact they live in two separate houses down the street from each other probably says everything.
@starhammer5247 Damn.
I'd love to help but sympathy wasn't covered by my insurance. Best I can offer is thoughts without the prayers.
Newlywed and about to be 20. Cheapest option for me (not a homeowner, with a hopefully soon-to-be pregnant wife) is a minimum of $286 a month. This is without doctor's visits. Literally just covers for an emergency visit or two a year, and will still require me to pay at least $50 to the hospital of choice for the visit. Not including deductibles. What am I even paying the insurance for?!
An emergency room visit normally costs a few grand, so $50 isn't terrible. But you're paying the rest in your payments. Insurance companies approach with the mindset of "oh, you don't have to pay the hospital, so you can just give that to me"
I was on the side that the killer should be caught. But then I read today supposedly the CEO was in charge of the AI system that was to auto-deny claims, but it had a 90% error rate, meaning sooooo much stuff got denied when it shouldn't have and the CEO knew about it. If that is factual, then yeah, unfortunately my eyesight isn't what it used to be, so I can't help, Officer.
The wildest thing about this case is how thoroughly it's exposing the healthcare industry's evils. I'd wager most Americans don't spend a lot of daily brainspace thinking about how horrific our healthcare is. This guy gets gunned down, a LOT of people find out that there are still over 40,000 people dying in this country per YEAR due to denied insurance claims/underinsurance, and suddenly it's like, "Well. The CEO was technically a mass murderer first ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
Thid
The company's profit and value skyrocketed after him becoming CEO. This is an insurance company so we probably already know why.
The number of legally blind New Yorkers these past few days: 📈📈📈
I think America found the solution to ease corporate price gouging
and it only took us 232 years to get the memo from france.
eat the rich!
Nah the internet sleuths are rightfully keeping their mouth shut
Let his insurance handle the it
They should cover it
I have no idea how this dude managed to shoot himself three times in the back. Especially since physio isn't covered by health insurance.
Noone wants them to be turned in.
Except, you know.... probably his widowed wife and kids.
I do. “Murder is okay if it’s an insurance CEO” is a horrible precedent.
@@THEONETRUEOVERLORD Honestly? I don't. We already have a precedent for "Murder is okay so long as you are a insurance CEO.". When we live in a system where you can get away with having as much blood on your hands as he does I don't honestly have much sympathy left to care if things start going in the other direction.
@@THEONETRUEOVERLORD no it's not lmfao. Oh no maybe they'll have to get a job contributing to society instead 😢
@@THEONETRUEOVERLORD "Denying claims to victims of unfortunate circumstances so we can save more money" is also a horrible precedent. Did you know he was in charge of an AI system that auto denied claims?
Leave Robin Hoodie alone 😭
Sorry you misspelled murderer
@@danielsolliday7051 is bro a shareholder 💀💀😭🙏
@@danielsolliday7051 yeah! murderer is spelled "you're claim has been denied" sheesh when will people learn to spell
@@muqeohow is claim is denied murder?
@@johnlove2954 United Healthcare has a notoriously high rate of denying medical claims. Meaning that people have no means of paying for their life saving treatments even though they do pay for insurance. United in particular is quite proud of their methods for taking things that would typically be common practice to cover and denying them anyways to save money. People die when claims are denied.
There are no online sleuths looking for this guy, lol
Do you have any idea about the politics of Internet trolls? Doesn't seem like a stretch to me.
You’d be surprised by people who make this their hobby.
Oh there totally are.
Not like 4chan level slueths who found that flag guy awhile back though.
The sleuths on this case are the arm chair "I read all of sherlock holms once" type of sleuths.
Ive read several where people are looking for him.
To shake his hand
Did u use Twitter since Musk bought it?
"Internet sleuths race to identify suspect..."
No, I, uh, I don't think they are.
If the suits making the harmful decisions that throw morals away just to squeeze profits from their customers got cooled down to room temperature more often we would see them suddenly being really careful in their business practices.
EAT.
THE.
RICH.
And insurance companies are among the most evil.
YASSSSS
This is like a movie where the public sticks up for the anti-hero!
Nah this dudes just robin hood
@@btrix9178 Like the health insurance ceo hasn't signed the equivalent of patient death warrants?
@btrix9178 I said it's like a MOVIE, and the guy is being treated like the anti hero.
Not real life, not hero.
It’s just like Death Note. Kira is Justice
Condolences to the family. It must be hard on them to lose a member of their family to rare “bullet in brain” disease.
I mean he was basically cartoon villain evil so it's hard to say if his family needs condolences
Wish I could help but my insurance didn’t cover vision
If you’re trying to help the cops identify this person, no you aren’t. Find something better to do with your time.
Remember that one insurance CEO in that one Saw movie? The victim here was SO MUCH WORSE.
They denied my 9yr old nonverbal son speech therapy because it was an “educational” issue.
Is it not strange that he has a different jacket and backpack in those pictures and in the ones where he shot the guy? Yes I know people can change clothes but unless he brought two backpacks then it ain’t him. Also if you’re traveling to assassinate someone I assume you’re traveling pretty light so I imagine you wouldn’t have two jackets and two bags. I also find it pretty funny they are only offering $10,000 to help find this guy.
I mean if you don't want to get caught changing clothes will throw off suspicion
10k is all the insurance company was willing to offer any more would cut into their profits.
The friends of the police offered the 10k, his company and family have offered nothing so far.
@@reesescreasesSeriously? The family didn't offer anything even though that kind of money is literally 1/3rd of a day's work for him? That's kinda sad. I've seen ordinary people offer 1k for missing people and that's a week's income for them.
Offer lifetime free insurance
We are peasants and we don't even know it because of some cheap shiney toys. A health insurance company (can't remember the name) is backpedaling on a policy of not paying for anesthesia after a certain amount of time during surgery. The push back stopped the policy from taking affect.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
@InfiniteAnvil Thanks. I knew it was a big one. My memory is getting spotty 😁 I'm glad most of it is still intact.
Oh my god. How greedy can you be?!
Pretty sure I saw the gunman with his hood off, but you see, im blind in my left eye and 43% blind in my right eye
The bullet wounds were a preexisting condition
Them offering only 10K for a tip is wild..
Facts.
They upped it to 60k, and a McDonald's employee snitched on the alleged suspect, Luigi Mangione. Funny thing: the NYPD decided not to pay out the tip money!
I hope they never find him
No one on the Internet wants to catch him
No-one's
4chan would disagree
@@THEONETRUEOVERLORDnah even 4chan don’t want him caught
Murder is such a heinous, evil crime dude! It's genuinely sickening knowing a father of two killed SOOOOO many people before finally being brought to justice. I hope he's looking up at us all rn
Good luck finding a jury that will convict
I dcking know right???😂😂😂😂😂 ahaaa..
Well they might have a bunch of billionaires in one room. Opportunity??😮
I would do anything to be the jury foreman for that trial. At the verdict I would say "Your honor, claim denied."
Fun fact: If the jury agrees they're guilty but thinks they shouldn't be punished they can literally do that.
Jury nullification! 🎉
Keep that story down or he'll get shot for "resisting arrest" 👀
Are we sure he wasnt terminally ill? Or the gunshot wasnt a preexisting condition? Regrettably going to have to deny your claim 😊
Murder is disguating and abhorrent. the idea that a group could ghoulishly encourage death for their own enjoyment and needs is disgusting.
anyway, enough about the insurance company.
I figured that was the direction your comment would take.
Screw all media outlets trying to identify him
If United wanted this guy to be caught they should've covered vision in their policies 🙄
GUYS I JUST REALIZED RICH BILLIONAIRE DIES AND TWO SONS HIS KIDS ARE GONNA BE OWL MAN AND BATMAN