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Starting in the 1950s, neuroscientists turned to split brain surgery in an effort to cure epileptics with uncontrollable seizures. Split brain surgery cut the corpus callosum, a band of nerves that connects the two hemispheres of the brain.
By doing so, they discovered some amazing side effects that basically suggest that there are subconscious modules in your brain that make decisions without your conscious awareness, and an interpreter module in your brain that translates those decisions to your conscious brain.
These tests, performed by Roger Sperry and Michael Gazzaniga, have brought up endless questions about how we make our decisions, who's actually in charge in our brain, and whether we have actual free will.
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"Do you believe in free will?"
"Of course. What choice do I have?"
Ha. Ha. Ha.
Exactly.
😂😂😂😂
fucking brilliant
@David Anewman That's something you have to reconcile about yourself. But, you can't do that by projecting your inquiries about yourself onto others.
Wife: "how was work today?" Husband's response: "It was a coherent conscious experience".
This is exactly what my response will be tomorrow when my boss asks how my weekend was. I didn't pass out yesterday, you know!
If only our days were always thus.
Lol
@@faustin289 how did you get to sleep then?
I'm going to start saying this to my girlfriend! Too funny
Joe, love the video! My daughter had a full CC procedure done on her when she was 2years old because she was born with a rare epilepsy condition. She's been seizure-free for a year now and trying to get her to learn has/is an upward battle. She lost her first two years of her life to this condition and now is trying to play catchup. Doctors have said she has a better chance of learning and overcoming someone who would be much older because their brain already knew how to perform normally and not split. My daughter isn't going to know what it is like having a uniform brain. Very interesting stuff indeed. My daughter is three and not talking yet, but she's improving and making advancements every day.
hows your daughter now?
@@lucid9817 Doing much better. She is talking everyday now. Not understanding it all yet, but incredible and far beyond what anyone was expecting. Thank you.
In journalism-"If the headline is a question, the answer is always no"
Om.
The same applies to scientific papers.
Except for the one math paper where the title was a question and the abstract was "Yes!". Sadly, I don't remember the title.
Dumb and ignorant generalization equating to “questions = bad”
@@MrHugabum ............................
'Are ACs sexist?'
Puckering A$$hole on internet: *yes*
What Joe describes 1:50 -- 2:25 is fatalism. It is not determinism. Key difference : Fatalism is the idea that regardless of what choices we make certain events are pre-ordained (think Laius sending his newborn son out to be killed because the Oracle foretells he would die at the hand of his son only to have Oedipus return as a man to do the deed.) Determinism is the idea that we cannot make decisions because all our actions, thoughts, wants and desires are pre-programmed by cause and effect. In fatalism the route is inconsequential, all paths arrive at the same conclusion. In determinism the path is set in stone, the paths not taken are an illusion.
100% agree
To all practical purposes, it's the same thing - you're just looking at it with different filters (e.g., in a path-integral several different routes contribute to the probability of observing Y at event X). There is also involved the same kind of prejudice that goes into the strong anthropic principle - which is just _restricting_ the multiverse ensemble to contain only sapience-supporting verses
@@thstroyur "To all practical purposes, it's the same thing"
Not at all. One is a scientific concept, the other is superstitious and quasi religious.
Came here to say this.
Also, I wanna add: All our thought and actions according to determinists is directly a product of chemical reactions in neurons and around them, just a system of molecules that is maybe complex for us to fully understand, but fundamentally physical and follows the laws of physics. The main idea is that if you know all physical laws, all positions and speeds of all particles in the universe in one moment, you can calculate correctly and completely what happens in the next moment and so on. In this universe everything that happens in the future is already determined by those laws, positions and speeds.
10:35 - "turns out". What and how? Only thing for now that has potential to refute determinism is quantum physics. Probabilistic property of the subatomic world seems to show that you can't predict what happens next, you possibly can have multiple outcomes to the same premises. In my opinion this is the last straw of Libertarianism, and I can't see exactly how there is a link between subatomic probabilities and conscious volition.
Sorry Joe, I like that you're starting this conversation, but I get the feeling that you haven't grasped the concepts you're talking about.
@@Blackmark52 In spite I just gave you an example where the two concepts are muddled together. The problem lies in the language you used, which implies determinism is just a special case of fatalism - but in truth they're interchangeable in a context-dependent scenario. If you mean 'how do I feel about this' when you say "superstitious or quasi-religious", that's a whole other matter...
This is a big reason why I journal. Sometimes I'll even start the entry that this is "bull$..." Being able to stop and write down the nonsense in black and white, then go back and read it helps find that inner bias. It's also why affirmations and gratitude change your life by rewriting your interpretor module
I've eventually found the compatibilist view of free will to make the most sense: That free will is both real and deterministic. Freedom is relative. As such, one may regard free will as the freedom to make a choice, relative to environmental circumstances, regardless of the biological mechanisms that lead to that choice.
I also firmly believe it sensible to regard unconscious mechanisms as every bit a part of who we are, as the ones we are conscious of. Your conscious, subconscious, and unconscious biology are all _you_ . Just as your deterministic choices are still choices.
Joe: We live in divisive times
Me: No we don’t.
lol
For real. The modern world has never been more unified on the things that matter. But unfortunately many of these things are evil.
we do now!
im surprised this video was made in 2018. Divisive times? we didn't know the half of it, back then.
this aged like open yogurt
3:40 When I make a joke like that my video gets taken down and I get a visit from the Feds.
Have the feds actually visited you over the content of a video of yours? Love your channel by the way, good luck with the reforestation :)
Cody is there uhh something you’re not telling us?
**Flashback to the nuke joke**
"Free will ain't what it used to be" this would be great on a shirt.
how 'bout a tshirt that says think for yourself? what'd you pay for that?
If it’s free you are the product.
@@davidelliott5843 im the product or my own free will?
"Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion, man."
@L1qu1d S1lenc3r the two ideas aren't necessarily mutually exclusive my dude. Even if outcomes are based on probability that doesn't have to mean those different outcomes occur through conscious choice
Major Wooosh! OP is just quoting from a movie.
I have brain too
Aha fellow dude of culture. Cheers and enjoy your white Russian
Thx so much for explaining this, Joe. First stumbled on Sperry and Gazzaniga's split brain research many years ago, and the 'yuge' implications were immediately apparent. But surprised that so little is mentioned of it even in today's discussions of consciousness and free will. BTW, Gazzaniga has pointed out that rather than 'free will', instead we have "Free Won't", where the conscious Left Brain 'Interpreter', which is also the seat of our 'rational', analytical side, is always free to veto and 'override' our unconscious impulses and drives. Not that we often do! ;-)
Franz Ferdinand died so that you could watch this video.
Sometimes I wonder how the Butterfly effect relates to free will (or lack thereof)
bad deal for him
oof
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This is fascinating. This year my Wife has started having truly crazy 'manic episodes'. In the most recent one she literally thought she was a tree. After it was over, she was able to explain so much of her odd behavior within the framework of her being a tree, and it lines up with this idea of 'the inner bullshitter' perfectly. She was having difficulties talking and moving, and her hair kept getting in her face, so her inner BS system 'logically' jumped to the conclusion that she was a weeping willow.
The really crazy part is in talking with her about it afterwards; On the one hand she knows that she was not a tree. I mean, she is a fully functional adult when she is not in these moments. But when she talks about that moment her inner BS'r overrides rational thought, and she says that she was in fact a tree at that moment even though she knows that is impossible, and then she struggles with that conflict for a bit before her brain literally puts it aside and she moves on. Obviously, we are working with doctors to see what on earth is going on (they are leaning towards bipolar... but some of this doesn't quite line up with that). But now that the bulk of the fear and frustration of this is over with, it is interesting to observe and sort of trying to figure out how things are working inside.
Not a lot of fun to live through though, for her or those of us helping her through it.
Woah
i wish we all had someone as supportive as you (not that i have ever thought myself a tree, but its still inspiring)
"I left it in his skull." (The intense face close up, the deadpan... I lost it! I had no free will, I HAD to laugh!)
I did re-watch that part, several times laughing!! I was happy to see your comment!! 🙂
I came here because my eyes are not that great and I though it said "free wifi - not really" So I wanted to know why it wasn't free.
I don't always agree with you, Joe. On this, I have no choice.
I don't see any experimental results specifically testing for the existence of free will. I thought that this was a science channel. Odd.
Maybe you should design such an experiment.
That's just the power I have...
@@joescott Can such an experiment exist, in principle?
@@warrenokuma7264 You will not find what you don't search for.
Can’t believe it’s taken me this long to discover your channel. Well done mate. I love it.
"I guess because assasinations were something that happened all the time back then"
Me, a Lebanese: Back THEN?
Hey Joe. Love the channel, and this is a really good video. I was hoping you would carry on though with the thread of your question, "Do you have free will" after you talked about how decisions are made in the subconscious, then justified to ourselves. You finally got to the part where you could examine the source of decisions being made and whether or not we can claim ownership of those decisions. Could be a fun part 2, if you haven't already explored the topic.
Smashed it mate.One of your best yet. I used to have philosophical discussions like this with my house mates when I lived in Birmingham, now I'm back home and introspection, metaphysics, psychology and science topics are all viewed with suspicion and/or blank looks.
In your research for this video, did you come across any research into how this "Interpretor Module" might be corrupt in those who suffer from mental health disorders such as OCD, PTSD, Bi-Polar? Just curious. Because the characteristics of several of those disorders are fundamentally interpreting the world around you incorrectly (ie. paranoia). Just curious if you found any interesting sources.
Great work! Very interesting topic of research and discussion.
I would also like to see this research if it exists.
And all those conspiracy theory cultists
I haven't seen any research on that, but it's an interesting thought.
@@thstroyurThere is also that classic case of that railroad worker that lost self-control after a metal rod went thru an specific part of his brain in an accident. I think his name was something like "Phineas Gage" or some such.
@@TiagoTiagoT That too; guess who made an entire vid about him? (Hint: rhymes with "ascot")
Thanks Joe for this eye opening film. Love your sense of humor about almost everything. Fantastic work!
"Here's a brain I got from somebody in the sociology department. They didn't need it, and I don't think they knew how to use it."
That sounds like something from a Dilbert comic. But it would be the marketing department.
@@thenewtalkerguy496 I think it's from a TED talk by a Philosopher of Consciousness
So far, they haven't missed it.
This one got a bit dark in the beginning...
Still, smooth transitions, well researched content, and a sprinkle of humor make this my favorite channel on TH-cam! Keep up the good work Joe!
Thanks man!
You almost forgot at the end that he started talking about WW1 as an example.
-> I must also point out the wisdom of not even trying to tackle THIS on free will:
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct
One of the best explanations of this topic I've ever heard. Well done again Joe!
I do thoroughly like how in the end after explaining determinism and why we don't have free will you still left it open for interpretation that we may have limited will.
When you skip to the end because you're scared to go through the whole existential crisis
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I knew my brain was trolling me 😂
“The ego is not the beholder of the truth, only coherence”
So true.
Amazing. Please more on this, seriously, no bs, pleas dig out more on this - so important! Thanks!
This is so true. I teach a few kids and when I give them some maths problem to solve, I think I made that up when I open their book the problem has been there and my subconscious mind had already picked up that problem when I was teaching them that chapter.
If reality is totally deterministic we don't have free will. If reality is purely random we also don't have free will. If reality is a mix of determinism and randomness we still don't have free will either. Our perception of free will is caused because we are inside reality and our knowledge is incomplete about reality.
I feel like this paradox might serve the Simulation Theory about the universe. I’ve started to like the theory, but in a way it doesn’t necessarily explain everything or the nature of the origin of our simulation, and also the term simulation could really just be considered another word for “life” in general, it’s just a synonym for our reality or life in general, but suggesting a programmed or creationist context.
The Big Bang is when the programmers hit the Run program key, then all our physical laws, elements, functions and algorithms went to work. Everything that is going to happen is going to happen regardless of what we think about it or try to do about it. We are going to make the choices we make the way we do no matter what we say or think or do about them. It’s been programmed. It’s a simulation. It’s life. The thing is our brains have been programmed to have some special awareness of the program to a certain degree, which makes us think we have some kind of free will. It comes down to asking yourself this:
What causes you to make the choices that you do? And what causes those things?
If you can answer that fully, then your understanding of who you really are and what’s really going on might change just a little
This is pretty much how I see it too.. I'm still open to free will but it generally only seems theoreticaly possible if materialism is false and our understanding of time consciousness and reality is not what it seems.
I laughed a few times, learned some stuff, and was moved. Really great video!
This was the best video I've seen in a very long time, years, very interesting stuff! Thanks for making it
This whole thing actually makes a lot of sense. It explains a whole lot about today's society. Well done.
After the assassination, Austria Hungary declared war on Serbia, not Bosnia Herzegovina.
Great video, Joe. I learn a lot watching your content. And oh yeah, you had me literally laughing out loud with the brain gag. Nicely done, sir!
Thanks! Nobody has noticed the kid is missing...
...and nobody ever will...
Me, too!
I really enjoy your content. It has substance which is rare now-a-days.
Another great one, Joe. It didn't take the path I expected, which made it even more interesting. I've long believed that what people consider free will isn't entirely free because of cause and effect; everything that happens is caused by everything else that happened before it, even our thoughts and decisions. Because of that, everything we think, say, and do is beholden to our past.
Gold. I stopped watching for a while, but this makes me want to watch more. Been here since you had 16k subs. It is great that you have a lot more: you deserve it.
Thanks! It's been a big year.
Another great video before bed! They just keep getting better and better, thank you for doing such a great job 👏🏼
Thanks!
"Smooth, constant, continuity of consciousness." That has to be my new favorite sentence to say.
In 2011, at age 45, I had a stroke. Actually "four significant stroke events" caused by clots that formed from a dissection of my carotid artery.
(From sneezing- did you know you can sneeze yourself into a stroke?)
I got classic drooping of the right side of my face and lost control of my left arm. Both of those physical effects were short term. Physical therapy taught my brain to use other bits.
The cognitive losses are still there. My perceptions, thoughts, and emotions have remained altered, and my short-term memory and ability to learn remain severely impaired.
Brains are very strange.
You should have drunk DMSO (and water) right away
Yes, unless you’re married
@@im1who84u dude, are you ok? Fuck me that's a lot of text. No one's ever gonna read all that shit
@@digisuboob I did and I went though pretty much the same thing with my ex wife of 20 yrs
lol!
@@digisuboob I guess you came up thru the modern school system.
im1who84u you're exactly right. The whores are brainwashed though. The whole world went in the liberal sh*thole in the 60s and 70s.
As cool as this video was, I believe it trailed a bit off topic near the end. I think the totality of "free will" as we see it is not super accurate at a fundamental, micro level. *Technically*, it can be argued that there is no true randomness at any layer of reality above the quantum level. This means that anything that happens, happens because of a chemical or physical reaction between two or more "real" objects in our reality. If you explode this idea all the way up to a macro scale, we *technically* have no "free will" as %100 of our reality (and thus our actions) is, in a fundamentally mathematical sense, predetermined. HOWEVER, there are so many layers of abstraction between the base building blocks of our reality and the version of reality we create for ourselves in our minds, that, it can be said, we do have (at least a valid sense of) total free will.
TL;DR
All action (micro or macroscopic) in our reality can be extrapolated from the most basic physical reactions between the smallest fundamental building blocks of our universe, however, because of the MASSIVE amount of macroscopic extrapolation that must take place for one to draw a direct line between these basic reactions and our conscious streams of thought, the idea of our actions being totally, mathematically predetermined is rather... "distant". In essence, free will is a damn good illusion that in and of itself has merit and should be taken and treated as such, but everything has a mathematical, reactive root that lies in the very reactions between the building blocks of our universe.
TL;DR 2
Free will both %100 exists and is a total illusion.
Hi, you said,
*Technically, it can be argued that there is no true randomness at any layer of reality above the quantum level.*
And then you said,
*This means that anything that happens, happens because of a chemical or physical reaction between two or more "real" objects in our reality.*
Even if the first bit is granted, it is a bit of a leap to say, therefore everything is a result of physical processes. To say so is to ignore the existence of minds, which have not been shown to be reducible to the brain (though this is often assumed) and therefore has not been shown to be reducible to just the physical. This is the very heart of the discussion on free will.
You just had to say that didn't you .
Austin He did say that. He said that the layers between the fundamental particles of physics and the conscious human mind are so complex and layered that free will has its own merit and that you can’t describe human psychology or sociology based purely off mathematical numbers relating to atomic interactions.
He actually had a really damn good point
A human being is not fundamentally different from anything else in nature. So that if you say that a human being has "free will" then you would also have to say that a chicken,a stream, and a planet also have "free will". There is just no way of getting around this using science and critical thinking.
If you choose to believe in free will then you are relying on faith and feeling alone for holding that belief. So many scientifically minded people are incredibly ignorant of how much their beliefs rely on faith alone.
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Choice is the act of hesitation that we make before actually making a decision. There is no "soul" that is somehow outside this world that is making decisions that aren't determined by the world.
10:40 “Turns out the world is probably not deterministic after all”
???? Wow, that was a jump in logic. Mind explaining how you suddenly bridged that chasm?
Quantum mechanics and chaos theory
Simply a great video Joe. Nicely balanced between psychological and neuroscience insights and personal responsibility to make a positive change in the world :)
Thanks!
I don't believe we have free will, but I do believe we have agency over our attitude toward the changes in the world. And once you figure that out you can unlock a potential you didn't know you have.
Without having a precise definition of agency in my pocket, is a person's ability to affect these changes not itself a consequence of the external experiences that molded his or her brain into that configuration?
To illustrate: I don't subscribe to free will either, and I tend to interpret it fairly pessimistically (the name might be a clue) - I have negative emotional responses to optimism and the sort of inspirational quotes one might find on motivational posters. Had I had a different upbringing in another environment, I might have shown the opposite reaction.
I gave up on the idea I had control over my brain or body a long time ago when my physical disability started catching up with me. (Ironically (?), I had already given up on the idea of free will prior to that, so...?) If there is an entity "me" in here somewhere, it is only a stowaway on a ship whose crew has its own purposes, and it is a very, very small, very hidden passenger of that ship.
All those changes were predetermined. You have no more free will than ancient algae who made changes by filling the atmosphere with oxygen.
I've been saying for years that every choice we make is a direct consequence of who we are and that it is impossible for anyone to make a choice that goes against who they are. Therefore every choice we think we make could in fact not have been made any other way and therefore was not really a choice. Even when we make a choice we would rather not make, it is because our inner self is telling us that it is the one we need to make. The problem is that you can then argue that if someone is selfless they should get no credit and if they are selfish they should get no blame because they had no choice but to be who they are. "I chose nothing, I was born and this is what I am." So if I am a good person, I was born good. If I am a bad person I was born bad. This however in no way changes the law of cause and effect, if you live by the sword you will die by the sword, if you play with fire you will get burned, regardless of whether you are to blame or not.
Hey Joe, have you ever heard of Experimental Philosophy? It's a pretty new movement in philosophy which is pretty much dedicated to figuring out where our intuitions come from, and draws often on developments in neuroscience and psychology. One interesting discovery from experimental philosophy, the Knobe Effect, could be worth a video on it's own. The Knobe Effect was discovered when Joshua Knobe, an experimental philosopher, set out to test what intuitions people tend to have regarding intentionality and found that people, including some philosophers, a group who holds logical consistency sacred, will ascribe intenionality to side effects of a decision based on whether the effects are positive or negative. Even the same single decision in a prompt will get contradictory results.
Great video! I've read about some of these theories and experiments before and I just didn't get it. Really clear explanation thanks!
Love your sense of humor in these videos :) having a good laugh while expanding my knowledge
R.I.P Billy
"46&2, are just ahead of me."
Bro. Hell yeah.
Did someone make a tool reference?
Love that song..fr.
Damn, I was expecting some Rush references, but I'm surprised I saw Tool first.
Spiral out---√
The split brain studies are absolutely fascinating but I wonder how relevant they really are to the vast majority of us who, thankfully, have our corpus callosum intact and thus enabling our two hemispheres to be in constant communication with each other.
Almost at 300k subscribers! Congrats, and much love.
This guy is a comic genius!!.. I just love it!
@Mikael genius dad jokes?
Oh. This wasn't what I had expected. I envisioned a physics discussion on the deterministic nature of the universe. Still, it was fascinating and I'm going to do a bit more reading on it. Thank you.
Wow. I experience this all the time. I’m always rebelling against myself.
You can have my brain when I'm done with it, probably a little later this afternoon.
Do a flip!
“This is my new favorite channel! Thank you Joe for your insightful answers and hilarious comedic timing!”, she said knowingly bullshat of her own free will.
"Lol. Lmao", said GuyMan, honestly not even giving a shit if he had free will or not.
I have often wondered how our decision making could be anything more than a function of the chemistry and architecture of our brains.
I didn’t watch the video. But I’ve thought about this in the past. And I just now thought it through.
Everything we do is fundamentally due to how doing that will make us fundamentally feel. Since we don’t choose our feelings, we seemingly don’t have free will. But what is will power? That is the desire to focus on what it is you want to do. We do choose what we think about. So, it may seem as though we do have free will due to that fact. However, we still choose what to think about due to fundamental feelings. So, while we will what we want, we aren’t free to feel what we want. Feelings are natural. We don’t choose them.
"Why ya hittin yourself billie?!" Well, i guess you earned my like and subscription...
I'm so glad this wasn't about the past, present and future already being set. This was much more interesting and valid to everyday life :)
Who the hell are ya, mate? Me thinks you have the best messages for the good of humanity tucked ever so lightly between interesting and informative videos. "Don't judge people too harshly; they're only half way in charge, too." (My favorite and most intimately relatable line)
That's brilliant! People who are delusional (and I'm not singling out any one group here, ahem) are not so much delusional, but simply "interpreting coherent conscious experiences" in an attempt to seem (to themselves at least) rational. That will be so helpful to remember at my next family reunion! Thank Joe - you rock!
Top-notch writing, and I get the sense you had a lot of fun writing the skit in the beginning. Poor Billy and his fake brain... Also, the mellow background music in the closing was really nice. You continue to find fascinating topics and bring novel perspective to their presentation.
Or maybe that's all nonsense. Who cares? I'm enjoying the ride in this biosuit as long as I can, and photons that strike my retina when I click your videos and the pressure waves that caress my eardrum in sync with what I perceive to be your videos please me. Two opposable appendages oriented opposite of what feels like the downward direction of gravity.
Michael, he plays the same time throughout the entire video on MEMORY. Loved it! A bit distracting, actually. Hahahhaha But loved it!!!
Thanks man! I've been trying to switch up the music a bit.
Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia not Bosnia, at that time Bosnia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
THIS! i am studying into my mental health and myself because i was told i have cognitive distortion-- and in some aspects i do, but i was misdiagnosed and am waiting to confirm that (though it is just the official diagnosis. therapists agree with me lol) i honestly might end up going into this field one day just to prove people i'm not crazy with my findings, though i'm just this random person you should believe me lmao. i'm 20 and have no idea what i want to do with my life, basically the lazy person described in the video. but i want to do so much more. i constantly am thinking about what i could be doing instead, but i never do because for one reason or another. even things i enjoy. i want to get studied on lmao, i probably am a very good patient to look into. basically given myself trauma (by this i mean i grew up in a perfectly loving household, pretty ideal honestly, but they all fought to get through problems. just verbally, but i hate fighting in general, and yelling. my grandpa is VERY similar to me so i always clung to him, but then he passed in 2019 and i kind of have just.. given up on life? i dropped out of college a few months before he passed due to anxiety and other things, but it really has derailed my life. it also has made me forget basically everything. i always have been like this but now it's like i live a day and forget it, sometimes. it is all blended together, and covid is making it worse lmao.) i don't remember any of my life unless it's brought up and most of the time even then im like yeahhh... got no idea what you're talking about lol. this totally makes sense to me. thank you for these videos, i have gotten super into them recently and to find all these ones explaining the brain really are helping me in my own struggles lol. i'm just a person purely who wants to enjoy life in whatever way possible, i believe things too easily and constantly am fighting with myself so this is just all really interesting to learn about and hear theories.
This video made me think whether the ego or the conscious mind choose one of the two different paths that our hemispheres present to them, and whether this constitutes our free will. Relatedly, maybe we really have absolutely no free will in the areas of cognition which reside solely in one hemisphere. But even with language we are sometimes debating which words to use, so perhaps the dialogue there happens through some auxiliary system (e.g. emotions). The whole idea presents also a lot of questions about the free will of other species or their cognitive experience given their particular development of the frontal cortex.
What I learned today:
Life doesn't matter
I don't control myself
have fun, do drugs and enjoy your life
Not what he said at all. Your actions have consequences. Your choices matter. What is important is realizing that the choices you make might come from an incorrect idea of how the world works. Therefore, if you get the urge to do or say something stupid, first make sure it's not your brain just trying to appease your world views.
@@HurricaneSA r/wooooosh
@@HurricaneSA Is it weird to not understand jokes?
@@butHomeisNowhere___ He's trying to be a smartass. No matter what, you should have fun, do drugs (alcohol kind of sucks) and enjoy your life. Personally, I'd do magic mushrooms.
@@krishivagarwal5189 my kind of guy!
Interesting thoughts, too bad it wasn't your free will that said them!
Lol
The music towards the end is Just normal by from indigo. Give it a listen, it has made me cry a bit, touching piece.
Ok I'll be right back
I would like to understand how human free will can work in a reality where time is relative and all time lines coexist in eternity.
I think the story about the bell and the chicken being remembered as previous events wasn't the brain lying, but its the method at which your brain uses previous experiences of vision and emotion to understand what your looking at, and we call that memory, and understanding these mechanisms might give alot more insight in to triggers for memory related diseases, dejavu and dreams.
How the hell did you know that there's a Wendy's next to the Lowe's where I live?
Huh! Same here.
Holy shit... There's one literally right across the street from mine lol
Bruh I live right down the street from a Lowe’s and can you guys guess what’s across the street from it?
This is pretty friggen strange, huh?
My humble thoughts; if we imagine a spectrum on which on one end is free will and on the other is predetermined, we will vicilate within this spectrum determining on different circumstances. We probably be mostly in the middle of this spectrum. This means we neither have total free will, neither are influenced by total predetermined fate.
You are Brilliant! I love your videos! Please keep going.
Always knew I was my own worst enemy.... 😂😂
until now. en garde!
jk
Man, I thought I was a good person who tried to be moral and never tell lies... Well, shit.
What a great video! Fascinating. I wonder how this would apply to an Ai... as in, do we need to construct a machine to construct a coherent reality out of the information provided for it to be sentient? 🤔 perhaps!
Great video. I agree with what you are saying. Essential ego should be there in everyone.
So wait, are you trying to say that watching this video wasn't decided by my free will?
I can stop watching TH-cam videos whenever I want. I just choose not to. There you go Mister.
Me: Oh, look, some other video from Joe. Let's see that one and then I am done for today!"
There are influences outside of your control that led you to make those decisions.
8:28 There actually is a Wendy's by a Lowe's close to where I live.
This is BY FAR the most powerful material you've produced to date!
Many people report that hallucinogenic experiences helped them to understand the inner bullshitter because in the middle of a very intense trip, the ego kind of melts away and the "coherent conscious experience" suddenly becomes very raw and a little scary. These people report coming out of the trip realizing that at least part of their experiences in the world are kind of an illusion going on in their head to keep them calm. Some cultures used this experience as a rite of passage in their religion to gain inner wisdom and such.
If you have ever had to recover from a trauma in therapy you will learn there is absolutely free will. Nothing heals without effort. it doesn't just happen. It takes work to be able to make things conscious.
@Geoffrey Straw, That is an interesting anecdote and indeed shows strength of character. However the real question is about freedom of will versus determinism. The past makes you who you are, this is determined, and who you are responds according to your past. Thus this isn't really an argument against predeterminism, more your point shows that one needs to carefully construct what definitions you apply to "free will" and "predeterminism" and any number of interpretations could make perfect logical sense. Just saying.
Efforts have nothing to do with the free will.
All efforts and their results were predetermined from the beginning of times, or whatever it was.
i guess i'll find out today. wish me luck
Everything happens because of the laws of physics. And since we can’t control the laws of physics we can’t controlled what is happening in our heads.
You are conveniently ignoring quantum mechanics and chaos theory.
A system that is chaotic, like a three body system, is highly dependent on the initial conditions.
And because quantum mechanics shows there are some things that cannot in principle be measured exactly, like the location of a particle, that can feed into a chaotic system and make it non deterministic.
Note : This frame accepts determinism & fatalism as two different end products.
If you consider time as an emergent factor instead of it being part of the absolute framework baseline of the cosmos i.e. it is not an innate factor/dimension but an emergent system function (basically compute environment virtualization principle i.e. converting the original effect into a virtual cause, maybe Boolean OR, in order to generate work. The 'rate of communication' of information is 'time' which is called upon here), at least in terms of our perception, since it needs to be communicated to us by the system in the first place, TIME/RATE OF ACTION, in this condition, has at least one step lag in the action chain/pipeline, right? In that case we only need to treat motion as the root system language for cosmos/duality. Determinism then might just be the the condition that arises from the absence of care/motivation. Taking a rock for comparison. A human can resist more environmental conditions simply by more accurately predicting circumstances & manuvering out of the way. This translates to a certain degree of freewill in the system correlating with resistance or manipulation capacity, which in turn might be pointing to the fact that both determinism & freewill (minimal or absolute) are just cause-effect parity instances of each other in the micro/macro because of the most fundamental rule which should arise in a sum zero environment. The tendency to balance. Might allow us to manipulate determinism. Determinism must be communicated in this scenario. Constants are kind of emergent side effects of the same. Idk if this is correct but I have a good feeling and I will continue to explore this approach. At least fun. Feels very promising tbh. Connected systems in existence should have a decent amount of balance communicating exchange if those already exist. This means the strength gap between the two systems isn't much i.e. dependency levels are high, maybe even critical. In this scenario, if one just satisfies current environmental demand, he or she can use will/action/motion, freely up to a certain degree. I view the human mind as User Space (Consciousness/Objectivity/Kinetic) and Kernel Space (Subconsciousness/Subjectivity/Potential). Yes the user space arises from the kernel space but we can hack anything as long as the communicated time for that function is apparent I believe and that's by influencing supply/demand because that kind of governs balance. Emergent then convergent. Spaces with higher degrees of singularity wrt current enrionment should be shaped only circular. Is it then just a confidence that women are curvy? Just a thought. I have found some rough applications too for these. Involves proactiveness as a mandate for consistency/survival of a system which I am also choosing to call as apparant singularity - err.. Laws of Physics? This framework of thought has a reasonable explanation for the Fibonacci patterns (step lag for time communication in entropy resulting in exponential increment towards the intervals of pattern recurrence observed; physical reality can mainly communicate existence via geometry). In those naturally occurring spiral patterns/expressions in natural deterministic low entropy zones, we see the step lags in the geometry and this may be hinting that holography may be found in functions rather than actualy physical dimensions. In terms of macro it makes sense that apparent time will be used to communicate naturally. Principle of least action? Emerge then converge to generate & reinforce balance? Only circular makes it possible and thus the expression of singularity in physical reality is a black hole (circle/sphere). Space-Time role switch (Boolean Or function?) there can be a holographic similarity across the emergent system. If we imagine executing freewill as something which requires to create an apparent singularity in apparent time, we do have a decent amount of minimal freewill as long as demand is first met since we are emergent not innate functions. If you have any additional thoughts, do let me know. You need access to 2D Time to have freewill. It's possible to create virtual dimensions via additional functions in apparent time. Create 2Ds of apparent time wrt intercommunications by layering functions and we have apparent singularity where freewill degrees can emerge. Sub environments of minimal freewill add up. In the end, majority wins. What I want to conclude with here is that, maybe our potential for freewill is infinite. Freewill is essentially an effect. May require just as much awareness to exec it which is why it feels like so impossible right now. Takes two to tango. So maybe freewill potential was a prerequisite to conscious life. We probably just don't get it yet because our senses are still far from fully/rhythimically evolved/aligned? We can say we have a variety of emergent senses from the base 5 via P/C. If these emergent senses can exist, so can those functions in emergent reality. We do have freewill potential by design in some senses this way. Every breath, every act of resistance, evasion is relevant enough manifestations of freewill (degrees) in our immediate environments. Thoughts?
Best video ever. Been subbed for a while now... but this was hands down the most important video you've ever produced. I like all the other stuff, your humor, cool info, etc but... There may be no more important concept for most people I know and know of to really "get". Thanks, Joe.
All I know is, we live in a non-deterministic world and the human brain is not well understood. The idea of "free will" is not very clearly defined, and we're far from having a deep enough understanding of consciousness to make any outright claims about having it or not having it. What we experience day to day is decision-making. If you define "you" a certain way, and make some assumptions about consciousness, are "you" not making the decisions? Maybe. But far too many people have taken this to be a fact, and that as a result they aren't in control of their lives. I think that's very much dangerous and not productive. I'm not saying you're peddling that idea with this video, but yeah. I think your main point was that it's important to be aware of what your brain is doing subconsciously, and that's certainly true.
What makes you think you KNOW we don't live in a deterministic universe?
@@MrManBuzz It's one of the key points of quantum mechanics. In fact, our universe is about as non-deterministic as it could possibly be. Literally every single "particle" in the universe has a probabilistic wave function. No credible physicist has said the world is deterministic in like a hundred years
@@Narutendo3 But is there any reason to assume random events at a quantum level should affect the brain? The brain works in accordance with the laws of nature. Like computers, engineering, chemistry... We don't say they're non-deterministic, we know exactly how they behave..On a practical, functional level, they're quite deterministic, and quantum probability doesn't mean that if you drop an object it might not fall down. No reason to assume the brain is somehow unique. Of course, if the brain was indeed controlled by random or probabilities events on the quantum level, there's would be no obvious connection between that and the idea of free will.
Joe also didn't even bring up the brain imaging studies where researchers know certain choices you're gonna make before you even know you've made the decision. Plus more basic things like the fact that you're a product of your genetics and its interplay with an environment, neither of which you chose.
@@olaf3140 Random events at the quantum level affect everything. The likelihood they'll make a large object not fall is infinitesimally small. But for things like computers, engineering (depending on the field), and chemistry, you bet we have to take into account quantum events to make things work the way we want. The brain is affected too. So that's the explanation for non-determinism. If you want my take on "free will" refer to my original comment.
Free will is clearly defined... It's the ability to make a decision without any prior influence. Being that everything we learn comes from some type of influence it's easy to see why free will is not possible.
Free Willy! 🐋🐬
I did once, ended up with a public indecency citation.
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This makes way too much sense. Thanks, I needed to hear this.
The question that came to mind as I watched this was... how do you know that what you've said is true? Is it not simply a result of the interaction of molecules and brain synapses that have formed your way of thinking?
Can you make a video about the pineal gland, AKA “The Third Eye”? If so, get your Woo Woo alarm ready ✨👁✨
So, when you selected Billy and took his brain for your demo, did he have a choice in the matter?
Narrow view of free will v. determinism
"Why you hitting yourself Billie, why you hittin yourself!!? lmbo! LOVE IT