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I'm an 66 year old man still working on my skills of sailing. I have a Bic 160 techno and generally use a 6.7 to a 7.5. Fun just to be on the water.
66 is NOT OLD !!!
Also an old fellow at 64 years old, currently on freerace 77cm wide for 12 to 15 kts, then moving to freewave 68cm wide for 15 to 20+ knots, but envisaging to buy something in the middle like a carve 71cm wide, for unstable wind, I mean, start sailing with 14kts but finally pumps up to 18kts, guess that Nico could handle quite easily 20kts with a wide board but I double him in age, so I prefer to opt for comfort rather than full speed
Thanks to people like u I still believe that age is just a number. Thank you! ❤
Also 66, Techno152 is my favourite board, easy to plane, quite fast compared to much more expensive kit, 7.metre is ideal. Love it!!
Another great video -- good insights before buying my first board. Starboard Carve was already on my list 💪👍
Still using my 2012 Futura and very happy with it 😊
Very nice video, thank you! I had a Futura 122l for a few years, but my progression on that was painstakingly slow. Then I switched to a new 135l Carve, and that was a good choice! It did hurt my ego to move "back to a HUGE barndoor", but just swallowed my pride and it was worth it. The Futuras are really much faster than the Carves, which made it more of a survival trip every time instead of steadily learning and progressing. My next board will probably be 105l Kode, as my goal is waves!
Notice that at 9:32 Nico comes so fast through the jibe, that the sail flips reversed for a second - meaning that he sails faster than the current wind speed🙂
Per - Denmark
Intersting comparison test. I do not ride as often as i would do. It confirms that Freerace is the best for me. Best compromize regarding performance and fun.
i was also surprised how much fun it is using a freerace board. Haven't used one for a while as i'm also only using slalom gear. When i tried out my dads JP Supersport i was amazed. A lot easier, more relaxing and still fast enough to race with some other guys.
I just bought a second hand Supersport 122 from 2020. Really excited and curious about its behaviour and performance on the water! 😀
@@wisecoonie it's an awesome board, just buy a better fin. The one coming with the board doesn't do justice to the performance of the board
This editing. Probs to Lars. Super interesting and enjoyable video 🤙
😊😊
3 Months ago I windsurfed 115 Miles on one day on my 73 Isonic ( on a flat spot ). what a party 🎉 then I was tired 😊😊
Hello Nico, I use Tabou Rocket 135 LTD (year +/- around 2015) Trying to do first plaining jibe ...
Great video. It would be good to see how they all go in 1m chop. Also how much difference would a weedy make? We need to use weedies where I sail. I'm thinking of getting a bigger board so I hopefully can get going with a 7m . I'm injured atm and not sure my body will cope with the 7.5m once I heal.
Thanks for the comparison!💯
For me as a non pro a freerace board is rational the best choice BUT having the ability to be fast as hell sometimes makes me choose the isonic
Hello Nico. I personaly use 81cm wide tabou rocket+(freerace) board with 44cm Z-fin. I love the combo. By the way idea for the future videos. You could make a video like comparising futura vs isonic. With proper fins and slalom sails. Like you could bring good windsurfer to help you to do race with you. And after race or two you could switch boards and do the same thing. Then we can realy see the diference between freerace and slalom board :) Love your videos!
Great analysis, Nico! Very useful
This test was not a surprise for me. I sailed from freeride to slalom gear and I like the challence of going faster. But I missed you testing to combo Carve board with the racesail! You forgot? And the Chopper under a freeride board, what does that? I am very curious 😀 these are great video's 🦕🍾🤙👏
Hi Nico, if you will be asked to recommend 2-board setup for tall and heavy guy (2 meters and 100 kg) what would you choose (German and Polish flat water conditions)?
I have watched 2:30 mins so far and i can tell that will be a super good video. Compare freeride with freewave as well!!! Excellent video. Well done!!
So... no winner picked yet for the fin in the previous video? 😉 If not, I'm putting in my name for whatever you think is best for my 2011 Angula Magnum 60 for side shore in Wrightville Beach, NC! And please tell me you couldn't resist putting the chopper and the race sail on the freeride with the straps screwed onto its rails... how fast was that?
Ciao , io peso 72 kg , e ho un futura del 2015 , 114 Litri largo 72cm .posso usarlo come tavola per poco vento con vele fino la 7.8?
excellent
The Futura comes with a carbon fin?? I got the Futura from 2020 and I thought the stock fin (Drake Ready2Race) was G10, not carbon. Am I wrong?
Nowadays it comes with a carbon fin 🤘
I bought the Drake R2R DW slalom fin in 2016 (3 of them), and they are carbon, guess 50% carbon content, after repairing the tips. They definitely arent G10. Maybe Starboard changed it on your board? They are a very good 'budget' carbon fin.
@@Phil-ry2ux Maybe it is a carbon fin then. I don't know how to tell which material it is. It looks dark and could be carbon I guess. I just assumed a stock fin is always G10
How long were the harness lines in this test?
Hola Nico, I was very interested in your video, but it got me a bit confused.
First you sail on freeride and freerace with a 7.2 sail and then you go down to a 6.6 race sail and compare both? Thought that race sails were that much more controllable in higher winds, so if that is true I can only conclude the following: or you only had one sail from tws and were completely overpowered in the beginning or the wind picked up during the test which is another explanation for the speed differences.
Thats what I thought as well. It makes the results meaningless if the wind picked up during the test. Same as Surf Mag doing their test of freeride/freerace/slalom sails using 7m for each sail. Still, the results are pretty much what you would expect to happen.
Your first assumption is right. We only had one sail from TWS. The wind was quite consistent 👌
And yes I was quite powered up on 7.2. However, not to the extend that I would loose control/speed. Once you go deep enough downwind, you loose pressure in the sail.
@@Nico_GER7 so why didn't you use the 7.2 race sail? I know that you had that one in your quiver😉
@@nickvanremoortel7002 I think it was windy enough for the 6.6. I don't remember my exact reasoning at the time. We filmed this 9 months ago.
No news at all although I'm a big fan of you! With your skills it's obvious that the Isonic is faster, put the same fin on the Futura 110 with racesail and you will show the same outcome in the video. This is pure marketing.
😂 Wasn’t trying to deliver news. I’m just bringing into motion what many people talk or wonder about (as you can see from the other comments).
I felt it would help a lot of people. Obviously I’m using Starboard - without them it would’ve not been possible, but the result applies to any other brand. :-)
And no, Futura with Chopper would’ve not been faster than iSonic for me. Though for some people it would have been.
Hi Nico, I'm amazed by your board speed on all boards. My top board speed is almost consistently hanging on 31knots on a full slalom kit and I work hard to increase that. I suppose your video blasting on flat water has the best instructions to follow? ( th-cam.com/video/-rx670M-R4s/w-d-xo.html )
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Hello Nico! I hope to forward your video to my video account and recommend it to windsurfing enthusiasts in China. I will definitely not use it for any commercial purpose. I wonder if I can get your permission? Thanks!
Hello Nico, i like so much that kind of vidéos, when you testing different gear like fins or boards. It’s so interesting for us to have pro feelings about different gear. Thank u. 🙏🏼
I recently changed my (older) slalom board (Falcon) for a new freerace board (Jag) and I am 2-3 kn faster on the freerace board... and planing out of the jibe is now much easier on the freerace board too. I am sailing on average 50 days/year, and freerace is the faster option for me. Same story with the sails, where I went from full slalom to freerace and did not lose performance.
Hi, very interesting test, started windsurfing again a couple of years ago after a long break (10-15 years) I'm 48 now, started windsurfing at age 10. Made the mistake to buy full slalom equipment (I99 World cup slalom) super fast, but not easy to ride, changed all boards last year to Patrik F-Race (110,120,140), like Futura ( looked at them to, but got a better deal on Patrik boards), found them lot easier to ride, when only being a weekend warrior (sailing 1-2 times a week in season, it cold in Denmark juring winter🙂). I'm using Slalom sails (Gunsails GS-R 2021), now it works perfectly. I think many windsurfers are making the mistake to take full slalom boards instead of Freerace boards, if they don't do serious competition, Freerace boards are so much easier to handel.
Interesting test! The main takeaway for me is that most recreational windsurfers, like myself, will not reach the upper limit of what a freeride board and -sail is capable of. It would be fun if you could test the limit of an absolute beginner setup sometime, like a 200 ltr board and a school rig or something like that. My guess is that you can make that go quite fast as well :)
I made 24 Kn (2sec) on Starboard Start Large with original Drake plastic fin...it is 225 L wide beginner board, biggest from Starboard...you can take that speed as minimum...it can go faster with better fin hahahahahaah ...i just remember I woos hoping that board will not torn my legs and knee...once woos enough...
hi Nico! I have a question I was hoping you'll be able to answer. I've been following you for a long time in the different media, so I know you use the i-sonic board. I'm looking to replace my free-race board which I'm using for sails 7.3-8.6. currently it's a 2021 futura 77. It's ok, but since it's quite wide for it's liters (116L) it gets really bumpy in choppy water, so speed is not that high and the ride is not so smooth. in light swell it's great though. So I have a chance buying a 2022 isonic 73. I'm quite confused as it seems like a very big volume so although it's narrower in width, I suspect it will be bumpy as well if rough chops. for high winds a use a slalom board future fly dark horse 97. Another option is to get a new futura 71. I'm 90KG btw, using Point7 AC-One and DueTone S-Pace sails 7.3, 7,8,7.9 and 8.6 with this board (+ Z-Fins SLM). Would glad glad to hear if the i-sonic 73 which is 124(!) liters will be good for me.
Really interesting comparison. I will feel less bad now when some guys on the spot with full race gear go 5 knots faster than me with my freeride setup :).
An idea for a future comparison would be to do the same test but see how much of a difference a nice fin makes to the freeride and freerace boards.
Basically what I showed in the last video. The exact number of kn in difference is semi-relevant as it would differ in each water condition.
Would have been nice to see what speed you could get with the combo; speedster/Isonic!
I use a slalom board in large (133L 85 wide) and medium sizes (116L 71 wide), and then I use a free race board for high wind slalom racing as they’re more comfortable in high winds and chop. I use race sails with all of my boards. Thanks for the great videos Nico. 😊
I ride mostly a 210 ltr RS1 race board usually with 8.5 Ezzy Cheetah freeride sail.
About 50 times a year.
3 seasons now and I can jibe, body drag, and have all kinds of fun.
I am 65kg.
Too big?😂
Probably. But it it flat-water where I am and fun.
hi nico, good idea going into the small detailed differences, since all other topics are all covered. i have patrik95, jp 72 and jp 85 using with p7 6,2 7,1 and 7,8 and np 9,0m2 s. my average speed is good but top speed is far from 32+ knotts. ı use carpenter and z fins. we surf in alaçati on flat or choppy water. i am 90 kgms. any suggestions?
Thanks for affirming the Futura. Selecting a board is crazy hard with so many options. I have stayed on Futura for years. I believe it is the sweetspot for rec sailors!
When I'm on my old isonc 107 liter I always feel I am the bottleneck of the rider+gear ensemble....the board just wants to go faster and faster!!
While when I go out on my 112 freeride (free slalom?) board I feel as if there is friction below the board...no matter how much I push but it does not go faster....That is the difference I perceive.
As a 74' year old im relictant to invest any more in my kit! My 115 isonic still great on flat water and is actually good with 4.5 to 6 metre sails. Hate larger kit. In choppy or wavy conditions i have 78 Kode. All my kit is relatively old now but is still fun on the water. Not the message that kit manufacturers want to hear i guess!
Hi Nico,
Great comparison shootout.
Just wondering what the red ropes were on your boom, further back than your harness lines?
Keep up the good videos.
Nigel Australia
Hey, cool test. I am an enthousiastic amateur, i weight 93 kg, 2.05m tall. I spend most weekends throughout the year on the water. My first board was a 131l carve (2014) and last year I bought a futura, 117l / 77 wide as it was really a lot lighter and easier to plane. This is my go-to workhorse, I sail it with anything between 6.3 and 9.4. For the 9.4 i should have a bigger board, but i can only fit so much gear in my shed. I tried it on a 85 wide isonic and then it started to feel like i was sailing rather than surfing, so all the playfullness kind of disappeared. Therefore, recently I started foiling as a light wind solution. Starboard freeride foil 155.
I find that I can still use the futura in conditions where you might already want to go smaller in size, it is just very forgiving. It planes easily through windgaps.
Favorite combination is with a 8.2 NP v8 and a 41cm Select S1 pro fin.
I am not particularly fast, but I do sail hours and hour on end.
For high wind I am struggling with learning a 60 cm wide slalom board and I move to a 3s (97l) /w (6.2 / 5.4) freeride sails when I am done with that.
I have an old 90s f2 Slalom Windsurfboard
Very interesting comparison, especially for intermediate surfers (like me) with only 20-30 days per year on the water. I think, your results are also quite in line with the ones of a similar test by the german "surf" magazine last year (with GA/Tabou gear).
Too bad you did not test the Futura with the Chopper fin, so we can have a better idea of how much the difference (on those conditions and spot that day) the board makes. But may be it would have been less flattering for the iSonic.
If possible, it would be nice to see a test of freeride board with freeride sail and slalom board with slalom sail. Then swap the sails between the boards and see if the freeride board will be faster and if the slalom board will be slower?
Sure they are good boards but it is too expensive...
Conditions on your local spot have a lot to do with choice of board I guess. I really enjoy my isonic 107 on the flat but elsewhere with a lot of swell it is much harder to control. I suppose the futura is the better choice there.
It seems to me to be completely consistent with my experience, as my Vmax 2s is 32.09 knots (with a freeride/freerace board (Fanatic Blast 100), a no-cam slalom sail (Gun Rapid 6.2) and freerace fin (Zulu Iklwa 32))
Nice job !
Nice!
Maybe next time you can also compare the racesail with a sail like the V8?
SUPER!!! only one question: the race sail on the freeride? why not???
well, another one: does the difference of volume affect or they're comparatively the three boards for the same conditions?
really like this comparison and set up. i wish the magazines would take these approaches too and document speeds achieved. some recommendations: it had been nice if you had put lars on the same combinations too, to see the difference f while representing the the more hobby surfers (it might had demonstrated that the hobby surfers reach better speeds at less complex boards). Also this would have resulted in a range of speeds to be expected (i would argue hobby surfers would have difficulty to reach the speeds you had on the future with (free)race sails also. also a 120l board futura does not compare to a 107l boards of carve/isonic. it would have been more objective, if these variables would stay ballpark the same too. complete with indicating windranges measured when sailing the various combos too.keep up the good work of making windsurfing great again!
When are you comparing different waveshapes, like Starboard Ultra against Hyper? They are totally different concepts, would make for a great review.
Amazing place to surf, when there last summer and surfed with Bjorn Dunkerbeck rental shop. He also join a few days himself and got some great advice som him. Amazing experience. Great video 🎉🎉
I use f2 sx 106 and I think is a great board. I made my first planing gybe on it. Can't wait to sail again 🤙
Hi Nico. Great video, once again! After the Futura, I was thinking about the potential of a carbon fin, because I own a Futura and saw the last video about the fins. As if by telepathy you answered it later in the video. I ride p7 acx so maybe the custom fin is a big step up for less money. Thank you very much for the content. Many greetings from Hamburg.
quality of video's is getting better and better, great job on editing all togheter in 15min video
tho would like to see more in detail slalom and speed especially boring tuning and skill details.
Me personally always use full on slalom just to be sure that its not the gear😆
Thank you for the video Nico! It was informative while also not too long.
I was actually confused by all the boards types until now, so this cleared a lot. I would also love to know what exactly makes each board and fin different from the design perspective.
Hi Nico,
Again many thanks for your efforts on testing and bringing us “Normalos” more information about differences in types.
It was a pleasure to see you still having fun windsurfing! Great pics!
This test (as the fin test) showed me m right decision to go with a Futura. Its nearly matches to my experience on these boards.
Please keep ON testing!
P.S: The close ups showed me (I hope) my faults in the jibes - will be better this year for sure … ;)
Yeah, I liked that too! Almost straight downwind during the flip.
Just a quick suggestion: I would be interesting to see the same comparison but with all 3 board types having similar widths and with all sail sizes having similar sizes. You rode the race sail smaller (6.6 sqm) than the freerace sail. Wouldn´t you normally use a bigger size on the race sail?
Thanks for that, but how about freemove and freestyle wave boards comparison?
Pretty cool vid as usual. Why do you (and everyone) choose the fin size related to the board, instead of the sail size?
Hi Nico, tnx for the test. I have no idea who you are, but you have a talent presenting boards in a nice way. I have a Simple board ( Zandvoort NL) from the 80's but could hardly use it because tried it 2 times in my life ... But after I watched your video, I will start again, if I can find a friend who wants to start too ... never too old ... 56 is a good number ;-)
Good luck to you.
Nice video Nico!
I sail a full slalom board (Falcon 121 7.0 to 8.4warp) on low winds where the spot also is flat. But with higher winds the chop becomes bigger (1m) and slalomboards (95ltr, 6.2 warp) become much more difficult. So I switch back to freeride or free race for more contact with the water and more control.
So I think the height of the chop should also be in such a test.
Hang Loose, Olof
It looks like you had a little wider stance on freeride board compared to narrow stance on freerace and race boards, what is your stance width normally (screw to screw)?
Do you have suggestions for stance width depending on board type and conditions?
I am 165cm, use 40cm stance on my 94lt freeride board, 42-43cm at freewave boards and 44-45cm at wave boards. It feels like my front foot comes out when blasting powered up if i use wider stance on freeride board.
I use a DROPS KRANZ 75. OLD gear
Really a great video. I find it interesting when you compare different types of boards, sales and fins. I would consider myself an advanced sailor, but sail performance free ride equipment in conditions under 25 kn. I always wondered what I would gain by moving up to a carbon fin, cambered sail or a full slalom kit.
Nico, great testing, I suppose it will help many people to make a better decision of what kind of Board or Sail to use. The Spot is also perfect of this kind testing ... ;-) great job well done
Nice review Nico 👍, thank you … It shows I didn’t test my 2022 futura77 / Z-fin / and 6,3 racing sail combination to its full potential… 😊🤙🤙
great test, you should also consider the training level , some user grab windsurf for a week and after PC job! :D
that's what I'm considering in my conclusion :)
@@Nico_GER7 yes I commented only the beginning,... Sorry
So you startet testing with a 7.2 non camber Sail, and in the end with a 6.6 camber sail. To me this sounds like the wind has picked up during testing.....
It didn’t. 7.2 was the only freeride sail I had available, so I didn’t really have the choice.
Do use freerace boards “Patrik F-Race” 120 and 150L, also use older SuperX F2 XTC 103L board for hi wind, whitch still feel great.
Do use these boards with proper carbon Z-Fins, mainly SLM’s and with Race Loft Blade or with Freerace Gun Vector sails. Did use Slalom boards before but Freerace boards are as fast but easyer for aging and not so fit body, can sail fast longer.
I'm jealous! Not on your gear but on the conditions you meet there! Here, when there is wind for 36tks speed, you also have chop of 1 meter, which again makes 36kts impossible to achieve unless you name is AA. :D
Thanks Nico for this wonderfull comparison. As others mentioned.... glad to see the difference in speed between the boards and full race sail. I'll stick to my Futura and freerace sail and feeling not so bad about those 5-7 km/h difference. Despite your video gets me to intend to give a race sail a try :-) Hang loose !
As you said it would be nice to compare the standard fin and a good fin (like your Chopper) to understand how much it influence the speed. Great video anyway!
Switched from a quiver of isonics to a dedicated foil board and a Futura last year. Love the Futura, fast and gybes like it’s on rails 😁
Hey Nico, your videos helped me so much to improve my windsurfing and now even got me into slalom. It's time to change my big Freeride board to a Slalom board, but I struggle which size to pick. I got am 101 L 65.5 wide Futura for 6.3 and 7.1 3Cam sails, which I can get up to 34 knots . Now I would like a bigger Board to handle an 8.6 3cam and maybe the 7.1 on gusty days. I'm 193 cm tall, 73kg, and physically quiet fit (mainly Bouldering and Handball). Would you say to go for the really wide boards like 85cm would make sense or to go for something around 75 to 80cm because I'm quite light weight?
And now I am really interested to know, where I can find those extra 10 knots? From 20 to 30? On freeride board? Maybe you can take some average guy from the beach and do some magic.
Hi Nico, thanks for the video. Maybe you could help me with my mistake. After 6 months of renting (liters from 220 to 140) I bought a rrd firestorm 123 which is effectively a slalom board. I am starting planing quite ok but there’s no way I could reach the footstraps - too much body commitment is needed. So now I am ( I guess) to but a free ride / fsw, hoping to start being more successful with easier bootstrap position. Which model (or models) do you recommend? Budget is between 500 and 1000 euros, I can’t afford a 2023/2024 model. Cheers from Italy!
Hallo Nico,
sehr interessantes Video. Der Vergleich wäre noch interessanter wenn in jedem Board eine deiner top Finnen gewesen wäre anstatt Serien Finne.
Mich würde interessieren wie Hoch die Belastungen (Herzfrequenz)beu euch Pros im Training und im Race sind. Vielleicht kannst du mal was dazu sagen.
Vg Rüdiger
You should let a "decent" amateur test the 3 boards. That would show everybody, that they are not up to the speed gain. I 100% believe that people will get from this test, that they should buy an Isonic to really get fast. I am not saying that you imply that, but people most often don't listen. Proper Jibing is for most weekend surfers something they will never accomplish anyway.
A) Feel free to do the proposed test yourself.
B) I’m stating the opposite.
C) There literally are comments of people saying they agree with my result and prefer a Freerace board over Slalom.
Great comparisons. It was interesting to hear your description of the Carve being well connected to the water but still very capable. I own a 2022 Carve 109 and 129 and I’m extremely happy with both and agree with your assessment. I’m heading to Bonaire so I will have a test ride on the Futura but I’m not going near the Isonic 😮. Great to see you are feeling better! Hi Lars 🤙🏼
Hi Tom
I am 60 and still just learning. I'm comfortable with the harness , but have never been in the straps. I have a Starboard Futura 144 ltr.
Thanks 🙏 Great job. Looks like my next board will be free race 😜🔥🔥🔥
Very interesting comparison. My experience is that some smaller free ride boards are as fast as slalom boards in windy rough water conditions for sailors who are not professional level
I wish I'd know all this years ago when I started trying to learn footstraps / harness / planing etc on a Freerace board, and wondered why I was having problems. I still have the board and love it now, but it would have shortened the learning curve to start on a Freeride board.
My Tiga HyperX 115 is probably most like the Futura 120 in riding. I typically use a race sail if the wind is gusty and a free ride sail if the wind is steady.
Great video as usual - it would have been interesting to put the chopper fin on the futura and see how that works . Also a true freerace sail like the V8 compared to freeride and Race would definitely been cool to know what kind of results it would provide. A good carbon fin makes a hell of a difference . Really enjoyed watching 🤙🏼
Very interesting. Not many of us have Nicos level though, so the difference will maybe less for us. +30 knots is a lot for most average windsurfers.
Anyway, there are lots of other variables, and it's far from us all who have the access to such conditions as in this video. And for this the Carves become real world boards for most of us. For example I mostly use my Carve 135 freeride board with a three cam slalom sail and a Drake slalom fin. This is very speedy and perfectly fine and it adds a couple of knots to the overall performance. With the straps in a more inboard position I can throw it around in chop surprisingly well for its size with a 5.7 wave sail, and planing jibes are seriousely fast then. It even goes fine with a 9.2 sail in 12 - 14 knots. A slalom board is faster but much more specific (I have an iSonic 122 too, and it's an excellent board for racing :-)
It could be fun to see a test of these boards in choppy conditions too.
All the best
Per - Denmark
I've had all 3 boards over the years, and the one I would pick is Futura, hands down, easy, fast and can ride all day.
Kool show mate
And you know my wishlist, bigger wavesticks vs freeridez
Hey… i enjoy so much of your video , thank you so much for your nice and friendly and professional sharing 😂😂😂
I think the Futura is good for me as I'm a good freeride and fun windsurfer last time😂 looking forward to back to windsurfing again after my 60 year old retirement in Kalimantan Indonesia 😂😂😂
Thanks Nico. Very inspiring and interesting info and experience you shared with us. I am an old school windsurfer and would be interesting to compare such boards with the newer freeride/freerace and slalom boards. Let me know if interested, happy to give out my boards to you
Great video!
It would be interessting to eliminate more variables. Try testing all boards with the same fin, i.e. how much performance / speed gain could be achieved with the full on race fin in the Freeride board!? From my own experience often a new and better fin is the better investment than the full on race board.
Unless you are super fit and want to be on the edge all the time, the Isonic and other full on slalom boards are not the big gain for the average everyday windsurfer.
Hi Nico,
I've got a bit of a weird board collection. I use a 129 85 cm RRD slalom board from 2012 with an altered fin box. That's why, I can use it for slalom and foiling. Additionally, I've got two Surfline Munich multi-fin freeriders (120l and 186l.) I try to go on the wide slalom board if the chop allows for that and once I get tired, I switch to one of the two freeride boards, depending on the conditions.
What you are saying about the carve rings true for the Surfline boards as well, they stay attached to the water easily. In order to not bump your way through the chop, you actually have to lift the bards a bit with your front leg.
I guess it is a question of (poor) technique, but so far I managed to hit 30 kts only on the smaller freerider in nuclear conditions with a borrowed 5.0 sail from the late 90s.
I can still remember when I went on the slalom board for the first time: My thighs were burning, and I was getting cramps in my calves. It definitely takes some getting used to, but going for a slalom-board can also make windsurfing more of a cardio and strength workout.
Thanks Nico, great comparison. I was really hoping to see the difference with the Chopper fin in the freerace board, so that the only difference was the board, but still a great video. I really enjoy your material.
This question should have been answered in the last video. The exact numbers are not really relevant, because they would change in different conditions. The main thing to remember is that it does make a major difference most of the time. :-)
Hi Nico, great video! This year i made the step from a freeride board to a feeerace board and using freerace sails. I am loving it.
I love the new print of the future! The Color scheme is so fency. I love that the white lines are now dark blue. Woww
interesting video as always, Nico. I have a question about the modern freeride boards , or more precisely ; the shape of those boards. I wish they would make the boards more pointy, a bit like the old freeride/race boards from the 90,s. Just add a few centimeters to make the nose a bit more pointy. When I hit small waves on chuppy waters, with a wide nose freeride board, I often loose speed and I have to make accelleration again. Never had that problem with the old shapes that practically cut through the waves!. Let me know what you think about that.
i am 15 years old and i am almost a year into winsurfing .I have a bic t293 racing board with a dagerboard and a 7.8 bic t293 sail respectfully