The Scary Rise Of Sexless Men
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Vincent Harinam explains why the dating market is creating a large class of sexless men. Why are single men dangerous for society? Are Incels actually a terrorist group? What is an incel? Is hypergamy to blame? Why is the modern dating market such a mess? What is Tinder doing to dating?
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I see nothing wrong with lots of single men. It’s called “survival of the fittest.” If you’re lazy, unintelligent, refuse to read a book or go to the gym, and have a terrible personality -> you are destined to be single. I worked hard to go to the gym every day at 5AM. I worked hard to become a doctor and make a good salary. I read everyday to keep myself informed and intelligent. I refuse to be shamed for my hard work. I am not a “chad” I’m just a hard worker.
@@mosesking2923 tell me, why don't you fight each and every one who stands in your way, or resists to your will, but choose the exact communication that will message your intent across, without threatening the other party?
I don't know a book that teaches human communication, but did learn that around blue-collar workers personality, social ability and biological limitations reveal themselves - the team is willing to include anyone who prioritizes results, or social activity.
From the simps I met, the poor socialization screamed out to anyone looking, and not pounding on their own chests the common mantras.
Hard work rewards, but those who are not properly socially able will be exploited, resulting in the commonly known outcome.
@@mosesking2923 100% completely agree!
Fascinating clip! Please have Andrew Huberman on.
So what should I do as a 23 year old. I’m trying to better myself but I just don’t hit all the check marks these women want. Mostly I’m not tall, and I have no money. Im trying to ditch my bad habits and build good ones but will that even be good enough?
Old African saying; "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" .
Except thats not even needed. Recent studies suggest 30% of men age 18-30 are still virgins. If Thanos snapped them out of reality right now there would be a massive gaping hole in the job market.
The dirty little secret is society in general actually depends on Ncels to survive.
That’s a great saying.
@@Syncrotron9001 you get it👍
@@Syncrotron9001 Society abuses and exploits INCELS, which are to a society what a nuclear runaway is to a nuclear reactor.
that saying is missing the part where the "child" goes to jail or faces the death penalty depending on the state
I have this feeling that single men will be less willing to go defend their nation when they don't have wives and children to care about.
This is true. Men are selfish and lack empathy by nature. They won't help anyone unless they have something to gain from it.
Of course they wont care, but dont worry military killer robots are already on assembly lines and they wouldnt have any mercy...
Nothing to fight for honestly
I won’t fight for this country. I’ll defend my parents and siblings. That’s it
Nah they may still fight for their town and many other things about their culture they like. But fighting for modern women is like fighting for a group that absolutely despises you.
Society full of lonely sad men with nothing to lose is dangerous. Then the danger is magnified when society goes out of their way to shame the lonely sad men... Recipe of absolute chaos.
Thats why mass shootings are so common in america.
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And when an enemy invades, how many of these sad lonely men will fight to defend the society which has cast them aside?
@@doodlemecrzy8075 I say this all the time. Weak men and delusional idiots are running the country and doing their best to shit on hands that feeds and protect them. Russians and Chinese have their fair share of social problems, but nowhere near as western countries where people question objective reality and doing the most sick social experiment not known until Weimar Republic.
@@doodlemecrzy8075 Military is facing a Recruitment Crisis! Not good going into potential WW3
One huge problem is social media: No human, male or female, at any point in history has been exposed to so many pieces of propoganda and false ideals on how they are supposed to live their lives and end up confused and depressed. We romanticize depression as a society and accept that we should live in countries with hustle cultures where if one cannot attain women or work ridiculously hours that they should be subject to ridicule. I sincerely hope that changes and that if anyone reads this comment, they no longer judge a man or anyone based on their ability to find a woman or attain a high degree of wealth at such a young age.
i agree. plus theres so many underlying issues at play as well. the way the world is structured now is leading to issues that 100 years ago didnt exist. the unrealistic expecatations asked of todays youth for many will make the already manic depressive people worse than they already are. it will only worsen as time goes on. i cant see a bright future for relationships given the way of the world built these days.
Nah, many of the issues modern society has already existed since forever. There was a short period where everything looked better, but just looked.
Social media is a tool, instead of blaming TikTok I am thankful that showed me what women are: without any hindrance they proved they don't love, pick the most useful man for her, and drop ot as soon as could get a better one, wich again happened all throughout history
I really wish, the west never reached our continent(africa) not to be offensive, but african culture was way more stable and everyone didn't lack coz we provided by ourselves from the land and content. Western ideology is just inconsistent
The one thing I'm now certain of, conclusively: these 'Tinder' and other dating apps are poison to society.
Social media owners like mark zuckerberg purposefully designed the apps to be addicting and make people mentally sick.
I could link you a video that goes indepth about this..
@@aimane3375 Wouldn't surprise me but at this point it's on us, on everyone out there to see the poison and never start using them, stop using them, stop trying to find apps like it.
That's on us.
We don't even need to care about the "who, why, how" that made them poisonous but only know we don't need or want that ruining our lives, fellow citizens or anyone elses. these 'tinders and grinders', every single time i hear about these apps its just a disaster or some evil thing or just plain misery and wasting time ugh.
@@jonathandewberry289 women cannot live without social media, attention for them is like oxygen they cannot live without it. So why would they shut it down?
@@SA-vz7qi my focus was more on how fast and easy it is for women to get validation and attention now.. before social media a woman had to go outside to for that attention but now she can get it for free. On top of dating apps and instagram. But yes it used to happen on a smaller scale, but now the majority of women are like that.
@@SA-vz7qi That's sounds absolutely plausible.
A man with nothing to lose is a dangerous man.
So you're afraid of street beggars, is that it?
@@johnmilius3031 no
@@johnmilius3031 yes beggars are often junkies or drunkards and dangerous.
@@incelstate2466 "But for the grace of god, there go you."
I've got nothing
I am a male, Dutch and a virgin at age 33. I would consider myself an incel in my earlier 20s but not right now....its more like loneliness. I have learnt to cope with it but yeh....the ever changing society kinda looks scary to even put myself out there.
Im in no meens psychologically unstable in the sense that I would be a threat to society....but weirdly I do feel like it would be interesting to see society collapse on itself...in the way its going.
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Well I'm Arubano from Aruba same here man it's a lot worse down here
Judging by the woke madness that has proliferated in Holland, I don't blame you. I would especially be mad at my government if I were you.
I'll drink to that. I'm 44, and haven't had sex either. For the longest time I believed it was loneliness, but society labels people like us as a problem when in reality society itself is the problem.
I was in love in a woman for 3 years, then she suddenly ghosted me over a year ago. Now I have accepted that I will never have a partner in my life. Such bliss.
Yeah, me too. It’s super interesting to see how modern society ends
“Life is unfair. So take the abuse.” Nah I’d rather be single.
Or get a passport if you can afford to travel.
@@andrewhernandez2987 no
For many men, there is…
No incentive
No respect
No sympathy
What could possibly go wrong??
If you are a porn-addicted, video game-addicted slob who still reads comic books at age 30 instead of going to college and getting a job, you don’t deserve sympathy or respect. I see nothing wrong with lots of single men. It’s called “survival of the fittest.” If you’re lazy, unintelligent, refuse to read a book or go to the gym, and have a terrible personality -> you are destined to be single. I worked hard to go to the gym every day at 5AM. I worked hard to become a doctor and make a good salary. I read everyday to keep myself informed and intelligent. I refuse to be shamed for my hard work. I am not a “chad” I’m just a hard worker.
@@mosesking2923 It’s a chicken/egg scenario. Are men single because of the things you listed? Or do men gravitate towards the things you listed because society is apathetic towards men at best, and at worst, downright hostile?
Thanks to feminism, lots of women care more about a man’s genetics than his character, leaving many men incompatible no matter how much he self improves.
That said, I still believe every man should strive to reach his full potential/purpose - if not for society, then for yourself. Having said that, I don’t recall one instance of positive reinforcement towards masculinity from the media in my nearly thirty years on earth. I do, however, remember plenty of demonization towards men. Is it any wonder why men are opting out of society?
Tl;dr - Why should men care about a society that doesn’t care about them??
@@mosesking2923 You are not a hard worker. You are a little slave. Keep it up. Look down on others while sniffing your own farts, I know it feels good.
@@mosesking2923 Spamming the same nonsense?
@@mosesking2923 - I am a 3 time deployment military vet, who is very fit, financially secure, and has all my affairs in order. And I choose to remain single due to the risks associated with the legalized wrath of a woman's ire and contempt. No all single men are basement dwellers who live with their mothers. Personally I just look at the rates of divorce, child support, custody, odds of a cheating spouse, alimony, paternal fraud, and decide that I don't desire or require any of that. You do you, and I'll do me.
Well, having a wife that’s not attracted to you and just makes your life miserable because you’re not a Chad is no good either.
Many women having short-term/casual access to chads due to encouraged sexual liberation is what inflates their standards to begin with.
@@themarathoncontinues4211 Agreed, but now that we are already in this era of sexual liberation, we can't really put the genie back in the bottle without cries of "oppression". We can't teach the younger generation of these dangers either without cries of "grooming". They've got a shaming tactic for everything. They want everyone/everything to change for their benefit, but will not change or fight their own nature, even if it means a stable future for themselves and society at large.
Violence, like always, is the answer.
@@fireduprabbit7525 fully agree unfortunately. Leaves a lot of men in a tough position, we can just do the best we can on an individual level though
@@fireduprabbit7525 There are easy solutions
A. Ask men to raise their standards instead of allowing men to settle for less.
B. Expect more from men. Advise men to stop being porn-addicted video game playing comic book collecting morons. Tell men to read books, pursue advanced careers, hit the gym, and better themselves.
Met my 1st wife at 17 & married her at 19. Being married gave me purpose as we bought a home, had kids & for 10 years she was awesome. But then she got tired of being a housewife & left me for bigger, better, stronger & financially destroyed me in divorce court. Bottom line: I wish I never married, modern marriage offers nothing but pain for a man.
What happened to the kids if you don't mind me asking?
@@ghengiskhan9308 What happen was the kids disliked their stepfather & they came with me every weekend & on Sunday's they used to beg me not to bring them back home to mom. After 3 years of marriage she divorced the stepfather & jumped on the D carousel, & the kids were with me 50% of the time. Both son's graduated with engineering degrees & are doing well with a wife & kids of their own.
A win is a win. Good for her
you chose that woman. live with your choices
I agree 100% I did choose to marry that woman. My #1 complaint regarding marriage is that the divorce courts by default exist to financially rape men & separate men from their children. @@spiritofalaska
There are worse things than being alone but many people never really realise it or realise it too late
Underrated
Ive been alone while around people. That was worse. A relationship isnt the solution
A society filled with hopeless permanently single men who have no reason to support the system.
This will not end well.
Either though indifference or violence
That’s a good thing. If you are a porn-addicted, video game-addicted slob who still reads comic books at age 30 instead of going to college and getting a job, you deserve to be single. I see nothing wrong with lots of single men. It’s called “survival of the fittest.” If you’re lazy, unintelligent, refuse to read a book or go to the gym, and have a terrible personality -> you are destined to be single. I worked hard to go to the gym every day at 5AM. I worked hard to become a doctor and make a good salary. I read everyday to keep myself informed and intelligent. I refuse to be shamed for my hard work. I am not a “chad” I’m just a hard worker.
@@mosesking2923 Unfortunately the average person isn’t like you
The average person just wants enough money to afford a house, car and to drink themselves stupid on a regular basis without fearing bankruptcy
The hard working doctor is not typical and survival of the fitness has been dead since Homeless people can be fat in this country.
Reality is often disappointing and the people around aren’t always the greatest
@@mosesking2923 You know nothing
@@mosesking2923 I paid for my house from selling rare comic and video games, hell i probably more than you make sitting at home.
@@salamiswami5456 Indeed they know nothing. They make fun of hobbies and a back scratcher for lonely people, figuratively speaking, as if being a knuckle dragging no nut November meat head obsessed with sports and working out is somehow better. Then they assume that lazy people are unintelligent, when maybe the reason they are unmotivated is because they are aware enough and smart enough to realize that the whole system is rigged and is more or less a joke and not really worth much effort in the first place.
My friend tried the one man multiple females type lifestyle. It worked well until his wife discovered the other females in his life lol. Now 50 -70% of his income goes to the 3 women that had children with him lol. He’s now with one woman who gets 50% of her ex-husbands income and he is living really well because that 50% is 4 times more than his income before its given to his baby mama’s lol So in the end his children are being raised by single mothers and he’s raising some other mans children and living well off of that man’s income. It’s a truly messed up world! Lol
Holy fuck. Never get married gents.
His fault for messing around. It’s a shame he decided to continue the cycle of single parent households
The world ain't messed up. It's a quiet nice place with a lot of potential. What ruins it for everyone are people like your friend (there are other bad actors of course).
He shouldn’t have been an idiot to do that when he was married.
@@XTheSpartanX7 that’s why she should’ve done it in a country where the power of marriage isn’t in the wife’s hands(3rd world countries)
I'm single and celibate. But I am not a threat to society. In fact I prefer being by myself. I barely go out except to shop, work, and attend church. I avoid women like the plague. No one is in any danger from me!
😅😅like the plague? I can’t even be mad at you. But there is no escape from women. They are everywhere 😅no escape
my close friend is with ya on that. ever since his last breakup he avoids going out alone. i usually go out alone but to certain areas where i can be alone. its not as bad some make it look.
I keep mentioning this, but do all of you get by with masturbation?
I was saying this in 2010. It nearly destroyed my career. I left the topic alone and went to work instead. Now 12 years later, people are finally asking “why are so many young men committing violent acts?” Unmarriageable men are a volatile social force. Consider too that ascendant young women in positions of institutional leadership will preferentially hire men based on the natural algorithm (looks, height, success). So society needs to answer its own question: “why are young men with no marriage prospects who have vanishing hope of professional success committing acts of mass violence?” Hmm. I wonder why.
That's just a lame excuse for committing violence ...that's just their ego ...it's better to make learn to respect others first
@@victoryv116 Keep portraying young men as the problem. That’ll make them less violent for sure.
It does prove that men are naturally abusive though, if they need to be given a woman not to lash out violently. Seems feminists are right.
@@victoryv116 Be lonely long enough and who knows how that changes someone's psyche.
Western society is becoming violent because men, especially young men are being treated like shit. That's a fact. Of course they will lash out. No attention, garbage low paying jobs, no pussy, the men will get angry. Can't have a society where only rich and very good looking men can attract women. Some men will move to Asia, find a GF and be happy. Most Western men don't have that option though.
What sucks is how relatives start thinking there’s something wrong with you if you haven’t had a girlfriend. Like yes there’s all kinds of mental issues I have but I’m not some crazy bastard. I’m not a “ticking time bomb”. I’m just trying to heal from past trauma. I’m behind and that’s all that is. But I mean that’s what society will say. I don’t even want a relationship right now because I bring nothing to the table. I need lots of alone time right now.
@Vampire Mïlf well the sad reality is it is easy for others. The have normal levels of self esteem, so getting a girlfriend or even many dates is a sign of a normally adjusted person. The issue with someone being behind is the mental issues and problems from anger/loneliness/outcast/negativity that stack on top of each other leaving you in a cycle that you may never break free.
@Succubi Mïlf I think they understand because they still hear about it. I myself still have these issues but as you get older people expect you to resolve your own problems and take accountability.
@@viralt487 what about me, I'm training really hard in triathlons to win iron man one day, it's a lot of training and I don't need a handle brake on my life because I don't have time, I'm very fit physically and mentally and I'm 30, never had a girlfriend in my life.
U see the problem is u think love is a necessity in one's life for happiness but it's not. People like to often categories others, in this instance it's if u have a partner it equates to a healthy individual, but that's not the case, look at the Buddhism and the monks. Self love exists. What you should be talking about is the individuals love he received during his upbringing.
@@zzzzzx308 monks are on one end of an extreme.
Truth is: People treat men who can't get women like shit, which further decreases these men's self esteem. This of course causes a lack of confidence. It's all a viscous cycle that only the lucky ones manage to break out of. You can say "just don't care" all you want but it's human nature to preform better in general when you have positive reinforcement rather than negative. There is no "victim mentality" to this. It's literally everyday life for some unfortunate people.
the funny thing is that in todays society everyone is walking around with a chip on their shoulder playing the victim. But when a straight white man does it his giving all types of names for it.
What makes this funnier is that while all these groups want to claim systematic opprestion the only group that has legal advantages over the other are women. but no one wants to talk about that.
@@creeperkingdom3190 why did you bring race into this dude?
@@JSmoothGamer just used it to emphasize my point. I also put sexuality in it if that counts for anything.
Non of what I said is meant to imply that only white men have issues with how men are regarded in their communities.
As a blackman myself I would say the destabilizing of the relationship between men and women is more pronounced in our community due to general poverty and government aid (ironically). And to my knowledge stuff like this happened in Japan and other eastern countries long before it started happening in the west. if that's your problem with my statement.
also keep in mind that men account for 52% of the population which aside from deviations of homosexual relationships that their is man for every woman but not a woman for every man. So women have a better range to select from. Nature can be cruel to the non genetically blessed.
Yeah, a little compassion goes a long way.
Why should any man strive to "do better" and "compete", when the quality of women these days is so low that it's not worth the effort. That doesn't make men less masculine or inadequate, it makes the women not worth fighting for or trying to impress. But these days it's the general quality of people, man and woman alike that has degraded. This is the worst time to be alive, truly.
in the end better men become higher women standards will get.
Nothing worse than being Friend-zoned.
indeed but you can reverse uno card that.
a friend of mine did such a thing, he was friendzoned by his childhood friend and yet he accepted it, became his best version of himself and became a surrogate son for the parents of her childhood friend, easily a top tier man.
when he became that, guess who tried to drop the friendzone? her and yet he didn't let her drop the friendzone.
he in a way got vindicated by living well.
it goes without saying she is a childless spinster who went from oh damn to oh shit, literally from elegant to elephant.
live well my fellow men, that will be your justice.
The one-child policy was not instituted centuries ago. It was instituted decades ago. Huge difference.
Thought that too when I heard him say that.
Yeah. Makes you think if this was a simple mistake or maybe he just doesn't know what he is talking about.
So was the Sexual Revolution.
@@ZWIPPMANN he def doesn't
I think he mis-spoke there.
Billions of men with nothing in common but hatred. What can go wrong...
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I will send out the national guard before this madness happens to our women.
@@abolisher lol what is the national guard going to do tough guy? There's millions of us incels the national guard won't do jack shit keep coping lol.
@@abolisher your neo nazi larping national guard? I’d buy that for a dollar. Imagine simping for a women
@@abolisher yeah just nationak guard and police and other institution would full of incels,mgtow and redpill and blackpilled guys lol good luck
We live in a simp-ecomony, men in relationships or dating spend an insane amount of money chasing women. Think of all the flowers, gifts, jewelry, homes, cars, restaurants, vacations, and the list goes on and on. When men are single they are able to save a lot of money and typically dont spend much unless its on themselves. If men remain single then billions of dollars are not being spent in the general economy. The average man in the pursuit of women can easily spend $10k-$20k a year on women, now times that by millions of men. Economists are freaking out because more men than ever are not dating, and not interested in dating, and that is costing the economy literally billions of dollars.
Good takes
Because a lot of single men are lonely and miserable. Men live longer in relationships with women… blame nature for that.
Yep. David's Bridal just filed for bankruptcy. More businesses that revolve around marriage and dating will go bankrupt.
@@Andrew--S
A stupid fvcking bridal store replaced a cool store that sold board games, wargaming minis and table top rpg's in my home town. Still salty about it.
Good riddance to bridal crap.
True words
This is exactly what is happening if there is no dating then there is no going out to dinner buying gifts there is no nothing being bought
People get mad when you bring this conversation up and yet it needs to be had.
Aside from the Disneyfication of relationships, I think a lot of it has to do with the overbearing tolerance stuff because I see people constantly encouraged to "drop them, they're toxic, omg girl, you don't need to put up with that."
A lot of the time it's not toxicity, it's just normal conflict, and nobody withstands the normal conflict anymore. They use "toxicity" as an excuse to just drop people and not face the hard conversations, and you can't maintain a relationship if you can't have the hard conversations.
It's so funny, right? I know that a lot of people either go to therapy or cope with their problems through the mentality of "everyone else is toxic, drop them". I personally believe there ARE indeed toxic people that are beyond helping and converting into well adjusted individuals. But this culture of "toxicity" in which I doubt, when not outright deny, that any of the therapists or stand-ins for therapists these people have, ever tell this people in the second person "YOU are the toxic one, YOU need to change". It creates a climate where we just discard each other and stroke our own ego. It's never worth it to try to struggle to make things work, because everyone just discards. Nobody is toxic except everyone else. Selfishness is the ultimate goal and we have even come to patholgize altruism with labels like "white knight". Sure, it's not real altruism to do things to get something in exchange, but I do believe that the reason why we pathologize those behaviours (being nice to the other person so that they like you in return, which at worst is just reciprocating a pro-social attitude, i.e. if not romantically, socially, a society should appreciate individuals that help, contribute and do sacrifices) while saying that it's much more normal to be manipulative, aggressive, grab what you want, hurt, hit, cheat... Because at least that's "more honest than doing nice things so others like you". Moral of the story: never, ever help anyone. It's a lot of wasted effort.
Did your parents or society or religious morals tell you that you should feel good when you help, that you should feel bad when you don't, that cooperation, collaboration, giving second chances and a mutualism and reciprocity in which you help other people stand back up when they fall, because you would like others to do the same for you...? Well, I've got news for you. You're actually the worst type of person in the world, because your attemp to make the world a better place in hopes that other people will do the same for you is actually very selfish. It's even more selfish than being outright selfish.
Part of this is because of social media and hypergamy. Women used to only choose from a small pool of Men in the local villages. Now, they have access to a MASSIVE pool of Men. They always, always, always think that they can do better. Until they can't. Infinite choice combined with female innate indecisiveness is a curious combination.
@@denebx4 Most will grow old and bitter alone with cats, box wine and become Karens ...
Damn, this comment hits me hard ... my ex girlfriend said that our relationship was toxic but just like you said it was just normal conflict from time to time, I never insulted her, we didn't even yell at each other but I would call her on her bullshit and she didn't like that, then bam she went on vacation with another guy that was just a "friend" despite the fact I was here for her every time she was sad (she was depressed and I encouraged her to see a shrink), I encouraged her when she was stressed by her exams and so on ... crazy how a person can call a relationship toxic just because there is conflict sometines especially that she had quite a temper too
@@sangotunk8043 Yeh, it's hard to be there for someone who isn't 'there for themselves'. 😢 When someone isn't ready to acknowledge their own sides of the 'toxicity', it only means that the other person has to take all the responsibility for any issues, and that's not a relationship. Just just enabling 😑
I'm sorry you dealt with that, and I hope you've seen happier times with someone who appreciates you. 😊
It's simple. Women don't give a shit about men's struggles. They just wait at the finish line and choose the winner.
More inaccurate manosphere rhetoric
@@wyleecoyotee4252 says the fake account
@@emmanuelnaicker2067 don't respond to that quarrelsome sperg.
True
"just grow a foot in height bro"
Being single takes off the pressure of attaining specific financial goals and that has helped me ease my mental pressure recently. So this is the state I don't want to change, at least for couple of years from now
bro you from south africa?
The only reason polygamy was common in ancient times was that the number of men was much less than women because of the dangers men faced in life (wars, hunting, fishing, etc.)
Wow thats a good point!
I recommend the full episode of this podcast. 10/10
Link?
@@MarkJoseph81 th-cam.com/video/Ug8IJJd8yH0/w-d-xo.html
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@@kamrudkd the number of violent men will increase significantly
@@ghosttheprogram6973 sadly we need to be talking about this.
We need government, policy makers, social Workers, economists on board to discuss these issues
For better social outcomes for all.
This problem is quite problematic in India and China, where millions of men cannot find a bride.
Imagine You take those woman in the Western countries and they going to change . And you don't want to know.
I have wondered about what gendercide would do since I was 14. I am 37.
You mean in one country that a norm is arranged marriage and the other that spent a decade killing off its women and now regretting it?
Perhaps they should broaden their options.
But they probably would never do it, cause it would require more effort. What man wants that.
India and China both killed girl child.
@@robbenvanpersie1562 What do you mean by that,?
Our increasingly individualistic and selfish society plays a big part imo.
All I know is that most men I know play 2+ hours of video games a day regardless of being single or married. Not saying games are "evil", but they one of the strongest distractions men have right now, and I believe we are seeing men be selfish by avoiding community through sinking time in the virtual world more and more.
@@someone-ji2zbwould you try to make friends with people who label you as angry bigoted resentful piece of shit? I know I sure wouldn't
A lot of the stuff said in this sphere is generally true, however, focusing on how unfair it all is and how disposable we are is not the right way. No woman is going to want to be with you if you're bitter and resentful, and, more importantly, you'll be miserable. Your energy is valuable, don't let them manipulate you into wasting it.
I don't know, for men, it's kind of like realizing you aren't good enough to go pro. Your life isn't over at that moment, you just have to switch gears. I'm no stallion, but I have success, it's just as I've gotten older I realized that relationships are work. The best time spent in a relationship is a year, tops. At least for me. I think a lot of guys will have the ability to step out of the selfless idea of bring a husband and father and focus on things that make them better or things they actually desire to do.
you are one one of those mor0ns who worship jordan peterson right ?
The lesson on polygamy is that it never turns out well. The women are jealous of each other and basically hate each other. The kids don't recognize each other as full brothers and sisters and off each other later in life. They don't even respect the father or mother fully in life and abandon them because the children can't bond with their parents because the parents attention is spread so thin with all the kids half brothers and sisters, concubines etc. Polygamy always falls flat and just creates chaos.
@Perturbed Atheist It only works by enslaving the sexless men. Farmers don't typically get rich, therefor in this system they would be sexless, people starve without farmers, therefor slavery.
@Perturbed Atheist Stop having sons, only have daughters. Save the boys.
@Perturbed Atheist it create alot of civil unrest. why More advance muslim countries have very high monogamy rate. how ever they arrange marriage which is more efficient of form monogamous bonds than dating. how ever they turn it into match making because they allow the women to say no to the match.
@Perturbed Atheist studies have shown it create unrest. Those who are virgins have zero worth in society. they usually turn to crime. think about it your work created where the alpha get more love than you. If refuse to go along and not work then alpha wealth will collapse. also society will collapse because a lot jobs that society needs are low pay. this is why romans had monogamy because democracy work better with monogamy.
@Perturbed Atheist How it "works"? Polygamistic societies are unstable and violent. In every single developed country you have enforced monogamy. That's what works. How can people be so blind, you have everything literally in front of your eyes and still can't see. Monogamy - rich western societies (japan, china, russian too). Polygamy - perpetual wars in middle east and africa. Polygamy forces young men to "conquer" and go to war if they want to have woman literally only way is taking it away from neighbours (other tribes or nations). If they don't have neighbours they can steal women from with force (aka our "civilized" societies) they will turn on system itself.
If those men who are left behind and have no incentive will care less about what happens to society. They won't participate in saving it and will watch as the world burns..
They won't keep getting these stupid V-shots because our government are telling us we're racist if we don't. Trudeu did actually say if you don't go and get it done you're mysogenistic! hahaha
Or will gleefully add to the flames! 🤣🤣🤣
I chose to be single after my 1st love: I gave her my heart, she took it, threw it on the ground and started jumping on it, while my best friend at the time put a knife in my back
yeah, my ex-best friend stole my girlfriend who I was actually glad to be rid of but it was still traumatic and very strange because he knew how unhappy I was with her and knew me far well enough to know I wouldnt have cared if he'd told me but he did it behind my back, it made no sense at all..was yrs ago but I still puzzle over it. She wasnt even very hot and wasnt his type and they werent together for long afterward.
@@joejones9520 you need to watch some andrew tate, thats not a friend
Can relate but it was before i even had the chance to even create a dialogue than i sighed n rolled my eyes and played my video games
How can you become so bitter after one heartbreak? Most of us had that… I had it happen too often though… 5 times to be precise.
As someone who has been there, the best thing you can do is try to be the best you can possibly be. Improve yourself forever and don't let resentment have a home in your heart as it will degrade your very value if you do.
Better to legalize prostitution at this point otherwise a lot of sexually frustrated men are going to go postal.
It won't happen until the unholy alliance of sex negative feminists and holy men breaks up.
It's bad for the mental health of the "sex workers" themselves. That being said, it might be a necessary evil.
Never sign a contract with someone who is encouraged financially to break it.
I can confirm my indifference to society burning down…
I'm practicing my Harp playing.
I'm cackling. Everyone who made fun of me are having their lives fall apart. And all I can think is "good". Fuck this world and double fuck canada.
@@SquashGuy02134 Canada is cool, whistler and lake Louis especially
@@SquashGuy02134 Love yout attitude bro
@JPaul I'd probably enjoy that honestly lol
I strongly believe that what is happening in this specific dating era is Extremely dangerous. I know so many guys who never had a girlfriend or never had sex. Its superficial to say that a lot of resentment and anger is being created by women with unrealistic standards and one way or another their feelings will come out one day.
@@zoeymckeown3194 women ain't missing nothing to my knowledge. All I see are men struggling...
no one owe you anything out here. 🙄
@@sdneytaco2226 did I talk about someone owning something to someone else ? Don't think so
@@sdneytaco2226 the same goes for single mothers who got dumped by their high value boyfriend and who look for men to marry her and pay for her child
@@sdneytaco2226 true.and-men-dont-owe-u-taxes,respect,civil-obedience,etc.
Being alone does not cause madness or violence, as some people suggested, that's bs. It may make you sad, miserable and wreck your self esteem, but that is it. I'm experiencing extreme loneliness for years and I'm not a monster. If and when lonely people are dangerous, there are other factors involved, like a terrible education or personality disorders. I don't blame other people for my problems, because I believe in freedom and basic ethics. Besides, sex is not a basic human need and if a person does not engage in it, it shouldn't be anybody else's business. Instead of judging lonely men, society should be complaining about the bullies who shame, humiliate and discriminate us for our mere existence.
Is sex not a basic need? Friend, sex is literally the purpose of our existence. It is the only objective meaning of life. What differentiates a living organism from a non-living organism is precisely the ability to reproduce and pass its genetic code forward.
The meaning felt, purpose or meaning in the life of any living being is reproduction, it is the only thing that exists between birth and death. Therefore, to say that sex is not a basic need is at least funny, because we only exist to reproduce, literally.
@@thiagovaillant It means that sex is important to human beings, but not a basic need. Basic need would be something necessary for survival, like drinking water. Lack of sex doesn't even make you unhealthy. Besides, humans are not 100% defined by natural instincts, as rational beings. You speak like you see no difference between a human and a lion.
@@MatNaito " Lack of sex doesn't even make you unhealthy", say this to all the mass-shooters, Alqaeda terrorists, etc etc.
It's shitty working in factories full of married men during your twenties. "Did you get your end away over the weekend son?" Nope, no lasses would talk to me so I rode my bike, drank til I was sick and played songs about hating myself on guitar. All this before online dating 20 years ago. Because the harder you tried the worse it became. How bad is it now? Dare I ask? Being married, in shape and having my financial shit together (you get on with this during your 20s well without distractions) now at 39 I do get flirts from single mums when I take my daughter to school but this is like throwing a steak into a pool of starving piranhas by comparison. In the dating world I'd probably be another ready-meal.
Sex is not a BASIC human need, like eating and drinking, but it is a human need. It is the biggest stress-reliever humanity has access to, it is very good for your mental health (being intimate with someone else) and the benefits of having sex on a regular basis are numerous. Besides, for men to stay healthy and avoid prostate and testicular cancer we're supposed to ejaculate about 20 times a month. It helps when you got a GF helping out in that domain :p
Being single is the best decision a man can make
Unless women are beating your door down to be with you...is it really a decision?
@raymondcarter8915 Which never happens??? And even if it is, still no; there’s nothing to gain other than sex
Absolutely!!
Back in the 1980's Susan Faludi published a book called "Stiffed," in which she said that (1) as men identify their masculinity by what they do for a living, and (2) as American men lose their good paying blue collar union jobs, they will resort to a kind of ornamental idea of masculinity. This is exactly what has happened. What is missing for American men is good paying middle class jobs not requiring a college degree--the jobs that have been shipped overseas. Yet, in the present crisis, no one talks about that.
Excellent point.
This might be why Trump rose up. He dared to promote "Get tough on China." Nobody else did.
Men don't base their masculinity on what they do for a living. Women base men's masculinity on what they do for a living.
@@llywelyngruffydd8474 That used to be true when women depended more on men for resources. One problem today for men is that women are so much more independent. There is a crisis of masculine identity and it's not about women. When men stop blaming women for their problems they will begin to deal with their own.
many trades pay significantly more than white collar jobs though. i was on track to clear 100k a year as a specialty finish carpenter after 2 years lol Mining same thing, not even 2. You cant ship those overseas
I've known alot of guys that had a hard time meeting anyone. Pretty lonely, years going by, perhaps life in the end.
So many out there in this spot.
Hard fact is that women are way way more attractive just by being them selves, attractiveness in men is rarely judged by the same standards and requires something more. That's reality.
What confuses me, often, is the lack of effort.
If finding a woman truly is a priority, then do everything in your ******* power to make it happen.
Sculpt your body to its best, throw yourself into challenging experiences that build character, test yourself every damn day like a mad man.
With this kind of grit any man can become attractive.
But it's hard work every day and it never stops and it never should.
So many of these guys just won't do it though.
As if their lot in the world was already set, seeing only injustice, going back to old ways wishing tomorrow would magically change.
It can be so frustrating to witness, especially if it's someone dear.
To be honest, if what it takes to get and keep a woman is to "test myself every day like a mad man", I don't want one. Sometimes I want to relax.
It kind of feels like getting into huge debt to buy something expensive. Sure, you have it, but the enjoyment you get from it will pale in comparison to the stress.
I'm all for self improvement but I don't want to make my life hell just to get women.
@@mikeb6383 it's nice getting comments on old posts, seeing all the shit I put out there coming back to haunt me. Haha
I mean, If a girl is the goal than yeah, I'll have to work for it.
Not much else to do about it because of the competition.
Sounds stupid but I think letting go is the real key, so you're probably on to something.
Working hard like a mad man for reasons within though.
Even for any reason but the girl.
Strange how things work, how attraction work.
There are men like Tom Brady, who did just that, and they still got divorced because their wife got bored. Even if you’re 10, that doesn’t mean she’s going to stay.
@@ravenzyblack think that's the ebb and flow of life, like built into the fabric of things.
The comings and goings.
What's crazy is that in letting go, like really living as it's only momentarily, it ups the odds for it sticking around.
Anyway, I still wholeheartedly believe that stupid hard work is the only road to a worthwhile goal.
The trick is probably to always have worthwhile goals beyond those that get achieved.
Because obviously everything goes and gets old at some point
Great conversation. It's a very serious point, that needs to be discussed. Only thing i have to add, and i'm not sure if you mention it in the full video, but online dating services aught to be banned, for the disruption it causes in society... The potential danger it poses...
When is someone going to show, what going to happen next! I’m 53 single male, blue collar worker, I’ve worked all of my life, I live beneath my means, I have pretty reasonable retirement savings, own my own house & everything in it.
Now I’m getting hit on by women in their 50s that have nothing, except multiple children to multiple fathers that are living on the welfare system! I’m not interested in buying last week’s non winning lottery ticket!
As a single 55 year old self employed, debt free home owning female getting hit on by tired, old, grumpy, lonely, men, I feel your frustration - but, i'd much rather live happily alone than settle on damaged and cynical.
@La A
I'm 58yr old woman in same situation.
The problem is I think a lot of "average" people or even slightly above average people do actually have options. They just don't like their options.
A lot of the dating market's problems would be solved if the average person actually took a good hard look at the mirror and asked themselves "Would I date myself"
Just imagine if the average man and woman would exercise 3-4 times a week and would cut something unhealthy out of their lives like drinking soda just imagine how much more attractive both genders at the average level would become.
@@laa2871 You could try to date a younger man - of course, it will cost you a few bucks - you'll have to take him to dinner, and pay for almost everything - Your other option is to simply stay alone for the remainder of your life. The guy who has assets, property, etc., is not interested in women who are 55 yrs old -unless maybe, they are from a 3rd world country, and believe men are important.
@@jlang7705 There is no way younger men are physically attracted to them for more than one night. It is such a pointless relationship. They should aim for men 65+
Interesting to note is that I've seen that couples that marry while one or both are successful during an economic boom are more likely to divorce when the economy crashes (as in 2008). Those that married when both were poorer then made money or stayed the same tended to stay together. The possible reason is that the latter knew they could survive an economic crash since they already had the foundation. The former didn't so ended up blaming each other and separating
Another reason could be that they didn't get together due to their economic status. Meaning, they found something else compelling in one another that was not defined by money or status. So if these couples attain success then lose it, they won't leave each other because the foundation of the relationship was not founded on status.
Conversely, if money and status is a big reason you are with your mate then once that's gone so is the reason for staying with that person
In other words, dont date women in college
Actually many couples that met in Uni and both started off as poor still divorce.
@@beneficent2557 if you can date women while you're college aged, you probably should. Maybe don't get serious in college? Statistically you're much less likely to get divorced after age 25. Age 32 seems to be the sweet spot for marital stability, after that, divorce starts start trending up again.
I met my husband is grad school and we are happily married 26 yrs today (June 7th 2022).
I'm a single guy who is content with his life apart from a few problems that I have these days. I was never in a relationship and I don't want to be in one. The time that I have to live life the way I please is very rewarding and honestly liberating. I don't see how anyone would want to be in a relationship, but at least I make the effort to understand and don't assume that something is wrong with people who are in relationships.
If your partner isn’t your best friend you are with the wrong partner.
@@abolisher I'm Single and not in a relationship. I made that very clear, so I don't know what you mean about my partner.
@@UnparalleledChatterbox you have to be friends with her first girls don’t like guys who aren’t friends with them that would be weird since they wouldn’t know about you I would know because my current gf who I’ve been dating explained it to me.
@@abolisher I don't date, but thank you for the advice.
@@abolisher do u know how many guys get friend zoned and girls hit on complete stranger chads lol
The Way of fixing this is by somehow making people more concienciously aware of themselves in the world to accept the situations that sit in front of them and upon them and allowing the systems ( which would be extremely variable) to flow freely through them. It seems as though every single moment of stress that is pushed on each other is pushing this understanding of perception onto people
As long as family and divorce laws favor women. Men will opt out. Its called self defense.
Thats fine. Best to keep lames (men and women) off the market.
Lol when divorced favored men…women were abused and and trapped in toxic relationship with more children than a family than her mind, body, and the whole family can support.
Now that the risk for both parties are more proportionate to what a woman and man would contribute to a household…men are pissy. And thats fine. Please stay off market. Your are a hero.
@@WordsofHarmony There will be violence from such men. That's concerning.
@@WordsofHarmony tell em sis🙌🏼
@@weaksupremacy3799 the violence will boomerang right back at them. Who are they to make others suffer for their Choices and lame lives? God exists and he would never let such losers win in life amen
@Prepare for jihad and Islamic Revolution inshallah Troll spotted.
There is nothing wrong with being a single man
Just do what makes you happy
Cope
This is the problem, lots of men don’t want to be single.
for some men that works just chilling in the mountains for years is easy for them and for others they need someone in their lives consistently to not be lonely I would even say that's the norm.
neither is something wrong with being a single woman 💁
@@creeperkingdom3190 it’s nothing to do with feeling, it’s the biological framework reacting to an absence of available mates. It’s a primal thing that does override reason. It’s not about what’s right or wrong, it’s a question of do you want a stable and safe society or a dangerously unstable one.
I believe that we can come together as men and women and live in harmony! But, we kinda need to ditch all the societal pressures, and expectations so that each relationship is forged according to the individuals in the relationship! It makes more sense! I think it will help the loneliness in both men and women.
Thats already happening
@@neetea2 proof?
nah I´m good. you can all keep getting gaped by random dudes and end up with std:s and cats
Nah I'm good.
Female "loneliness" lmfao 😆
I think this generation is just going through a much needed break from each other. The Love conquers all attitude has been disproven and it's not necessarily a bad thing that a generation holds back from each other and the birth rate drops. This world has nothing left to discover and countries are plentiful with people. I believe the next generation will come back around and have better relationships with their peers, be it friends or committed partnerships.
I agree with you.
as long as I got good food I’m ok with that. tbh.
I don't agree with that "plentiful with people." "I'm still King Giga Chad Virgin" ****
The vast majority of the so called incels are not terrorists. Labelling them as such needs to stop. These men are hurting because these guys find it difficult to compete in the sexual market place due to their physique, fitness and self esteem. These guys are lonely and yearn for female companionship. Yes they may be angry and frustrated. But they certainly arnt terrorists. To deem them as such is incredibly damaging and frankly, irresponsible.
Yeah but how is that anyone's fault? They can't get laid so they lose their sh*t? Half the women they judge they wouldn't look twice at. Their standards are too high. If they weren't so busy fantisizing about dating p*rnstarts and thots they'd be able to find a woman.
@Potato I’m a women who’s never gotten laid and I’m perfectly fine. I’m not over here loosing my shit and hating on men for not dating me. It ok to be single. Nobody’s entitled to date/ sleep with you.
@Potato ok and she just said that she has also never been laid and she’s never wanted to lash out. You all tend to forget that there are women in the same boat as you and considering how they outnumber men they’re still more at risk of being single than you. Everyone deserves to be loved, but you’ve got to cope with the fact that not everyone will get/stay married and have kids.
@@100Stratusfiedx wrong, wrong and VERY WRONG. men actually outnumber women, there is a surplus of men currently. That's 1. 2. Women CANNOT be incel, they CANNOT be involuntary celibate, women can only be VOLCEL voluntary celibate, women cannot relate to incels in any way shape or form, it's impossible for them to.
@@100Stratusfiedx this is very slly to say , women can far easily get sex then men. we know this nor is womens self worth and place on social heirachy determined by their sexual success.
thus their are far more factors you are not considering contributing to their mental state , especially in western world where men a re judged harshly and are held by high standards by women , soceity and media.
regardless in western world people are treated as tools in a narccicistic , hedonitic no moral western world , women are born with worth due to it governments doing whatever to appeal to them as well as being 70% of consumers and can have sex especially in an environment with thirsty men rampant and sex is constantly sold have innate worth to them , men now have to make and prove their worth to western world.
in other words a sexless women is far diffrent than a sexless man in many ways in western soceity ,
1 you are not seen and called a failure (Example incel is always applied to males)
2 women dont have standards or expectations placed on them anymore cause thats sexcist as america is dunce and dont evne know what sexcist or racist or morals mean or look like anymore.
3 when women need help , people help when men need help good luck youre on your own or even people will go out their way to stop safe spaces for men.
no support , no empathy , no care ,hate , scorn I imagine thats what its like to be a western man as the unempathetic degratory term.
regardless western world have failed to even have such a problem I stay from my country where we have valeus washin you all run around lost liek chikens with their heads cut off.
farewell western world , you failed your people , turned your back on your men and thought your women they were gods who were victimes and they were foolish enough to eat it up. The waringing signs of The End is clear.
I'm sitting back with my popcorn watching it all burn. I'm taking whatever side that wins in the end since morals are out the window at this point.
Just like a woman!
Let society burn to the ground. Fk it!
Go after the kind of woman you want. You're the hunter.
@Krzysiek Mazanek you are aware that George Carlin was a leftist right?
@Krzysiek Mazanek I never said that.
I thinc significant development is avilable- important and "must".Development is important and just properly fokus on that.
8:30 True, today, if things aren't perfect they are considered terrible. The entitlement and expectations are way too out of whack.
People need to understand that just because you’re a single man doesn’t automatically mean you’re an incel Second of all there’s nothing wrong with being single and waiting until you find the right person it’s nothing to be ashamed about
Whats wrong is that you can't reconcile *sleeping around* with *wanting a happy relationship* you ether commit to one or the other but you can't play liberal dynamics with psychology and expect both to just fall into your lap.
for males and females respectively
Most married men are incels and that is a statistically provable fact.
👏👏👏👏...
Funny, cos there re women that re voluntarily or re involuntarily celibate. But they dont get shit on. So why men.
@@bibaolaitan5189 because unlike women, men are judged by their ability to gain sex from women , soceity and men and if he fails to do so or does not wish for whatever reason he is still considered a failure or hates women.
there is no such alternate treatement for women in general as it is for men , to not see this one would have to lack a lot of insght , perception and just awareness in general.
its not rocket sceince but im a be blatantly honest , you spam clap emojis I dont think anyone who uses emojis have ever been intelligent muchless aware.
I think it’s more about being alone, then being a single man. Studies show that men mental health is best at big sporting events (think World Cup). Most generations past had some sort of collective brotherhood. The individualistic and consumer driven culture we now live in is the key factor here.
Male mental health definitely improves when succeeding in competition...it’s kinda why I get confused by this hypergamy stuff. Like it kind of writes-off and completely dismisses just how powerful the male competitive drive actually is. Like this is the same gender that forged society as we know it, battled each other and the terrain, developed the majority of infrastructure and technological innovations around us, overcame immense obstacles and bent the land to their will...and apparently now, are suddenly incapable of finding a new strategy to show off and impress women all because a grand total of two generations of women read more books and could buy more things. Like I know the internet is quite polarising but I don’t think of men as that pathetic
@@lunar686 that's strong men. strong men are rare even throughout history. you don't hear about weak men because they died or never reproduced.
Very intelligent point.
@@viralt487 wait? So you’re saying strong men are rare and then you’re saying weak men don’t reproduce and die. So what about all of us? Are our parents strong men or weak men? If only strong men reproduce then that means there’s lots of strong men cause there’s 7 billion of us on the planet
@@damiantirado9616 trend of single women is high because too many weak men.
This was interesting to hear. Honestly I think the fact the women are becoming higher earners, means we have found less use for marriage and husbands. Women are content in many cases with having multiple options, occasional sex, and having fun. When you take money off the table, marriage benefits men more. Women when career minded, are Less interested in having children or a large families anymore. Making them less interested in men. Most women I know are even bi-sexual and will deal with other women. Studs are becoming a better option for many women too. The world is different. Now that we have a society were two lesbians can raise children without a man, there's no use for men as it was before.
very true this generation is much different than say my grandmas generation in which she married because he had money and she did not earn as much.
It still takes a sperm to create a child. I also find it very telling that women start earning money and they think about oh I don’t need to have a family. I can focus on me, me, me, but when men start earning money, they think great now I have enough money to get married and start a family. If women were truly content there, would it be hundreds of them crying on TikTok about where did all the good men go? It turns out letting yourself become a human come dumpster actually takes a toll on your body and your psyche after a decade.😂 Copium is one hell of a drug.
From a woman perspective, late 20s, always have been looking for a partner to start a committed relationship and eventually marriage. I don’t know if it was my luck, but the guys I’ve dated, they don’t want a relationship. They say they do at the first date then they stop putting an effort or aren’t willing too. This is very common story as have heard form other people too, and I’m not sure why. Some say, women can be mean, but guys have mean to me too, I don’t hold every guy to that standard. Not giving up though, I’m still looking for that guy who has the same goals as I when it comes to relationships. Not sure where the disconnect is as to why people aren’t finding one another. Online dating help introduce but you still have to put in a lot of work.
Single guy, early 30's, the main reason I'm looking for a young lady is because I want a committed relationship and eventual marriage, and yet I'm luckless with the ladies. Can't even GET a first date.
@@gregm4813 A guy also in my mid 30s. I gave up on dating apps years ago after getting absolutely NOTHING just ignored, blocked or ghosted. The problem is the women are just too picky.
Have yoi heard of the miraculous 80/20 rule?
Attractive men dont commit, because thry dont have to, and there is no biological imperative to do so.
Polygamist societies historically have largely been unstable. When there are many men who have no hope of having a meaningful relationship or starting a family, they act out (sometimes violently) or they check out of society altogether. Marriage brings a certain level of stability to society as a whole.
Most Women don't want marriage or kids
In Africa, societies were polygamous due to rampant disease and incessant warfare which meant that most of the children born would not even make it to their 5th birthday
@@robbenvanpersie1562 least not anymore.. they don’t need us since being in work force if they do. They find some sucker to leech off of or to control him
They go Dick Proenneke/Ted Kaczynski... 😉🤔
As soon as I got out of the Army, came home and realized my wife was addicted to the Lifetime channel, shows like 60 Day Fiance, I knew my marriage was in trouble.
After marrying her she almost immediately began withholding sex and using it to get her way. Then when I became tired of it and didn't always "chase it" she began to pursue it with me. But even then she only did so when she knew I would reject her so she could later came the "he neglected me" card.
Like I said, I knew my marriage was headed for trouble. Fast forward 13 yrs later and I've been put out of the house and getting a divorce.
Am I lonely? Yeah I am, very much so. However I'd much rather deal with being lonely than endure being with someone who doesn't truly love me and was just using me, making my life hell.
Please warn younger men today to stay away from toxic women. Too many men get caught dealing with the wrong women. Are they naive? Probably
@@laturista1000 what's the point of getting married if she constantly withold seggs from u lol
Should have gone to counselling. 13 years is a long time for it to go wrong… it could have gone right.
Sometimes a neutral 3rd person can help.
Sun
Kids together?
Maybe guys should pick girls that chase them instead of the other way around because at least then they know there’s genuine desire that the girl has for the guy. I’ve been chasing an army guy and he’s the one that cheated on me. Dating sucks nowadays because people have no morals or loyalty.
It's funny how they managed to chat and nod to each other till the end of the clip suggesting that polygamy would reduce the number of single people. They funny missed that it would only reduce the number of single women but increase single men 😂.
For me it's simple, it goes beyond gender and sexuality. For me its a lack of trust in people, i never take them seriously just like how I never underestimate anyone. Ive lived my life wasting and chasing not knowing who I really was or what I really wanted, now that i know what I want now and who I am, those things obviously they are and become trivial, something not of actual worth. I have to stay on top of my shit daily and cant afford any distractions. I also just really learned how to enjoy alone time, something I learned to value over time, weather its staying in your room enjoying a nice meal or activity, or outside in complete isolation. The world is full of bullshit, and getting away actually is more saving than getting involved. Not having people around makes me feel much better. I learned to be the best version of myself this way and it's great, the only people that mean the world to me is the small handfull of family i have in this earth, and that's better than a hundred mfs that im not so sure about.
I really appreciate this sentiment and perspective. I have a similar take myself. At this point ; American society is so disgustingly demoralizing to partake in that I'd rather not interact with it as much ; and to the extent that I have to, it's as little as I can get away with. Life is a hell of a lot simpler without all the BS of modern society.
Black pill guys don't "hate" Chads and Stacies, though they might resent them a bit. They simply acknowledge the reality their existence. I'm not BP, btw.
I don't class myself as an incel, but I would fall into that box if placed myself in that box. I dated a bit in my 20s and ultimately gave up. Now I am in my 30s and the level of self improvement and people skills I developed I am proud of. I don't need a woman to complete me, I don't bitch and moan, and I just live my life. I have TOO much crap to do to care. If I meet someone in the future cool. I'll have questions like any normal man, but if it happens organically so be it. I have the gym, making music, working, working on buying my first house, and getting my car re-painted to car about certain things. Live life man. It's short and hard, but it's what you make of it that matters. I dropped weight, improvement myself to be the man I always envisioned, and the momentum continues. Do what works for you and if a woman comes in your life cool beans, if not just live a life that is complete and fulfilling for you. Not easy, but worth it.
Keep telling yourself that,
@@garibaldi54 I will do Steve, thank you so much for the sarcastic remark. I hope you and your family remain healthy and have a blessed year this year. Peace!
@@xagonent4942 I hope so too. ;)
We have to adapt somehow adaptation is possible. Making small moves in the community would give me fulfillment. Doing charity, feeding the orphans, feeding the homeless, keeping the youth away from gangsters and drugs. I do combat sports aswell wrestling and judo so competing and coaching others. If I can coach a youngster and get him into program instead of becoming a drug addict it's worth it. There's no point of being hateful because of your circumstances. I will also be graduating with my second degree so I'm trying to inspire other young men that getting into college is possible. If I can do it anyone can do it.
@@wrestlingjudoms1302 Come on mate, none of that stuff is going to compensate for the most basic human desire which is to find a mate for sexual companionship.
Thank you for making this video. Spot on men.
I feel sad after watching this episode. I’m 60 & have been married to hubby since we were 21. We matured together, grew together and went to marriage counseling together. We met at work. What I have learned is that if you want a partier, you find that at a bar. If you want someone different, someone you can relate to, you need to look in different places…libraries, churches, volunteer at fire or first aid stations, etc. I wish you all well. 🙏
None of the singletons here want to do the work. They think they "deserve" a relationship and that years ago, before equal right for women, they would have had a chance. They're a sad crew who done value women as much as they value their perceptions of them- selves.
Mentioned places in this day and age are not sure sign you will find decent women.
@@kenken6550 Women think they "deserve" a relationship. Women choose to whom will they have intercourse and men choose to whom they will have relationship. they're a sad crew who done value men as much as they value their perceptions of them-selves
@@303machine you could try, instead of complain! you are acting exactly entitled as she indicated! Lord
@@celesteadeanes4478 you could try, instead of complain! you are acting exactly entitled as he indicated! Satan
It's more efficient for society to advance when there is more monogamy ; more men are able to be productive in society! Never has a polygamous society gotten past the tribal stage!
I think you’re right, I’m a middle aged, single guy with no children and have decided not to strive for promotion etc., as what’s the point if you don’t have a family to support. Why should men abandoned by women and without children bother to invest in society, when we can live simply enjoying our hobbies, games, motorbikes, fishing etc.., selfish pleasures, but why not in these circumstances?
@@stonemarten1400, because there are strong psychological processes that call for you to have a meaningful life. Hobbies and games do not give you meaning. People do.
@@geraldpeace2476 you can have a meaningful life without other people, as hermits have done throughout the centuries. I’ve climbed mountains, walked coast to coast, seen wolves and bears in the wilderness, contentedly on my own and without others to annoy me. A good, faithful man sacrificing his whole life to serve a woman and children is noble and good for society as a whole, but it’s not the only way to find meaning.
@@stonemarten1400
I agree however in the cruelest sense of the word
“What’s the point in being noble if there’s nothing in it for you?
Why be a noble of nothing?”
All you end up doing is sacrificing for nothing
@@stonemarten1400, isn't this why you're here? You are undoubtedly seeing the troubles in society today and are curious as to why they are happening. They are happening because of this mentality. Men forgot that their role in society is to hold it together. We also forget our role in the problems we are facing as a society. Each of us has definitely played a part.
We have been sold a lie that we can find real meaning traveling, sight seeing, sowing our wild oats. It's exactly that. A lie. When you get to the end of that road, you will see it robbed you of everything long ago. I've seen it too many times. It gives you brief glimpses of happiness, but never long-term joy. You get that from serving others, not yourself.
Here is my question. Why be civilized if the system is designed to humiliate you?
The social contract is dead.
slavery for Ncels is coming. The successful men simply cant do all the physical labor it takes to upkeep their harems, someone has to farm and do garbage work and those guys are going to be sexless and eventually just stop working.
I just said the same thing in my other comment.
@Krzysiek Mazanek Especially men who are "on the spectrum" but still fit enough to work. I recommend all men get tested for autism and if they test positive IMMEDIATELY read just how high the divorce rates are for your FIRST marriage (its 70%+)
There's this thing called jail....
@@Syncrotron9001 Serfdom?
GOOD TAKL !
What sucks is that while humans often live well into their 80s, our biology is adapted to the assumption that we’ll live to around 40, so our mating instincts and our most fertile years happen in this period of our lives. But since we now live longer and don’t feel as much pressure to get our lives going as quickly anymore, many end up inadvertently skipping over the most optimal time to start a family.
I honestly don’t want to deal with women and relationships. Staying single was the best choice. Relationships are too much drama, responsibility, baggage, then you have to only care what she wants while she doesn’t care about your needs. Pretty much in a relationship it’s all about her not you. I don’t want to deal with that. It’s better to be a bachelor.
EXACTLY
At least under the old social contract you actually have authority and respect to go along with the responsibility. Now all you get is the responsibility you'd have to be insane to take that deal
Islam sorts that out. Husbands and wives have God given rights over each other.
@@M.Sid9.3 used to be the same in Christianity, until we let the culture spoil our women
Cope
The aphorism 'There's someone for everyone' has a second part often omitted which is, 'if you're willing to settle'.
Such a great topic of discussion and super interesting to hear both of your takes. Although, as a woman, I disagree with some of what is said here (regarding the role of women in western society and how that has evolved). Would be awesome if you had Esther Perel on your podcast to discuss topics around dating, monogamy, infidelity, etc. Her insights are incredibly fascinating.
This video clearly ignores that women can date multiple men
Chad can have my would be wife, I don't want to have to live up to anyones unreasonable hypocritical expectations. I prefer my time, my schedule and ultimately my freedom. Feminism really freed men from having to be responsible for them, never forget that!
You know all in all I think that is where I will fall on this subject " I'm going to be myself and not try and be something I'm not if you want me sure but if you don't then that's fine to "
This! Men no longer have to be financially responsible for women and women no longer have to be mothers and caretakers of grown men. Don't let anyone push you into taking care of another adult. Instead men and women can appreciate and care for one another as people. Divide up the work of living together as you see fit within your relationship, how you do it is no one else's business as long as you are both happy. I feel like everyone is missing an opportunity to work on truly figuring out how to love one another and its very sad.
Yes. thank God for radical feminism. It really forced men to wake up and realize the Western Culture, dating and marriage is not in the best interest for men. Men have been treated like expendables for hundreds of years. Glad to see men walking away from those obese feminist modern women.
You missed the point entirely. If a man is in a relationship with a woman, then he becomes bound to her, giving up his time, his money, and his ability to make decisions, no matter how trivial.
Men are only free from this when they wholly avoid any relationship with women.
@@EagleScoutmano not true lol. Just find a mature women by telling her "my job, my way on how to spend money that I get from it. If I want to gift you something it's because I want to, no obligations"
I went on about 5 dates in my 20's and remained a virgin until I met my wife in my late 20's. In the eyes of many in the world, they probably thought I didn't have much fun during that time, but I did. There are a lot of worthwhile things to do in this world that have nothing to do romantic relationships. I read a whole heck of a lot and spent some time in the gym. I don't really get to do that stuff so much anymore. When you're single, spend your time doing stuff you can't do when you're married. Because when that happens you do take on some additional responsibilities and you have to make some sacrifices.
Thank you, this comment restored my faith in humanity.
Thank you! A rational human being.
Wow you got married as a virgin incredibly rare these days lucky honestly for both people it's for the best
Great advice. At 23 years old, single, and still a virgin, I'm trying to focus on a life that is personally fulfilling for me. I've been getting back to myself after a rough time and I just think forcing a situation to introduce another person romantically in my life is not a good move. Some people seemed concerned about me being single, but I know that it's only a serious problem if I think it is.
You mean you can't go to the gym or read books now that you're married?
I dont know answers to these questions and I cam only tell you about my own experiences. In my 20s 20 years ago getting women was easy. Now this obsession about height with women has destroyed that, I've been rejected a lot of times for not being tall enough. Rejection and break ups have always pushed me forwards, I'm a successful man and with no woman to procreate with. I've got my dog though, she's loyal and loving.
You're cute though
I been single for 3 years now without a single date. I just stay on my little farm and keep to myself. I would rather be single than play the games people play in todays world. People change spouses like socks 🧦. I’m just not going to be anybodies sock ever again
Funny how beauty industry from cosmetics to surgeries and clothes is almost a trillion dollar industry. Women after this have the nerve to claim personality matters the most.
So the looks of a female don't matter to you?
Amen to that
Wouldn’t that also be indicting men showing that what men really care about is women is looks so much so that most women spend a small fortune on makeup to try and be more attractive
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 difference being that man do not sugar coat it and lie lmao.
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 exactly. Men care about looks and women judge each other on looks. Women compete to be the most attractive in order to attract men and make all the other women jealous
I'm single and I assume it. I guess wanting a loving, caring, nice, faithful woman is too much nowadays
Sadly, it is. The tiny percentage of women who fall into that category are quickly taken off the dating market.
@@jasonpauldegraaf correct me if I'm wrong but they rarely marry a good guy
@@emmamusic4600 Of course, but the pretty ones are always in relationships. So they are non existent to 90% of the male population
@@fidykely Regardless of whether he's good or not, she will eventually resent him. 80% of divorces are initiated by women (the main reason cited is "unhappiness"). Of course, asshole cheating husbands exist. More often than not, however, the wife simply loses the feels, cashes out, and moves on.
Generally speaking, wives will offer their love, attention, care, and support in this order: Her children, herself, her family, her pets, and then (if anything remains) her husband. And when they must, they'll often view him as weak for being "needy" (which only fuels further the inevitable resentment).
Most modern women expect their men to offer emotional, financial, and relational support but have no paradigm to reciprocate. In their minds, he's there to care and provide for her at whatever cost.
And if he cannot cut it, her social media/dating apps can provide her with a few hundred more willing simps within a few days' time.
@@emmamusic4600 for sexually/physically attractive men ofc who are the top 20% of the male populace. So basically, you dont "exist" for a majority of men.
I have done a lot of work in countries where they have polygamy. Rebellions and uprisings are common, because polygamy means many men no longer have a chance to marry, have kids and some stake in that society. Monogamy is one of the best models for social peace in history and for thousands of years it helped us remain stable. Now it is dissolving before ultra hypergamy. Social stability will struggle.
The world hasn't been stable for thousands of years, though. It has never been stable. All of human history is fraught with continuous warfare--war IS history.
Having lots of sexually frustrated men, many with mental health issues, and drug addictions is devastating for society. Our civilization cannot survive this onslaught for much longer. Monogamous pair bonding or marriage and the rearing of children is the main stabilizing force in any successful culture, destroy that and reap the whirlwind.
Society is a filthy asshole
Not everybody is fit to pair bond and/or raise children.
Yeah, what women are gonna want a sexually frustrated and mentally ill man struggling with drug addiction!?! NONE
Ban porn and get the boys into manual labor jobs.
And not one single word about divorce and family court, alimony, child support. paternal fraud, etc. Men do pay attention to what happens to other men, and it isn't rocket science to go "Wow, I don't envy that man and his situation, and so I shall take steps to avoid his fate." Getting married, and staying married until your golden years, is no longer the norm in society, it's the exception. This is the part where I throw back my head and laugh.
Do you really want to be married to the same woman for the rest of your life? Having sex with only one woman for the rest of your life?
Think about this seriously
@@wyleecoyotee4252 - getting married is playing Russian roulette with only one round not chambered and she's always pulling the trigger. If I wanted to get married, I would just find a lady who already hated me and buy her a house and give her half my assets, skip all the paperwork.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 In a Ideal world that's no problem, what's the issue with being married to or having sex with the same woman for the rest of your life? At some point in a man's life they should have enough sexual/relationship experience and encounter to realize that every pussy is the same if you just looking for hookups. I'm in my mid-20s and at a point in my life where sex in it of itself became nothing more than me trying out every store-brought dessert for something interesting, I want something more which is why I would like to get married. Also, to be married to the same woman for the rest of my life will be a testament to our loyalty and companionship for each other, love is a fleeting but loyalty/companionship is for forever.
@WhoBlah
If you're only 20yr then you are only looking at it from a certain Disneylike perspective. I was married 18yrs and people change. Having sex with the same person for that length of time isn't all it's cracked up to be. Furthermore you're assuming your relationship or sex life doesn't deteriorate.
It's awful when it becomes a sexless marriage.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 I've not looked at relationships and marriage from the Disney perspective since I was 13, either I was built different or too many men get their relationship advices from the media they consume. I personally don't believe people change, I believe that once you get to know someone very well and live with them you enter a crossroad where you ask yourself "Is this the person I want to have children with?" and "Is this the person I want to grow old with?" Now, speaking as a man who has no trouble or qualms with finding a woman to fuck, let me tell you this, I've reached a point where I just stopped caring about sex or the quality of it. Hooking up with different women over the years made me just bored and isn't all cracked up either. If I were to make a rough guess of your life, I would guess you've gotten married way too early and held on to an dead marriage too long that your youth passed you. I never assumed that relationships and sex don't deteriorate, I even said "love is fleeting" because at one point in every marriage even in healthy ones, love dissipates and the sex stops becoming exciting this is why loyalty and companionship is extremely important. Deep in my core, I rather have the companionship that I built with a woman for the rest of life, then to live as aging bachelor who have meaningless sex, but that's just me.
Reminds me of that scene from 300 “Men, what is your profession?!” It’s fantastic that society has gone above and beyond to elevate marginalized groups at the expense of men. Unless societal collapse was part of their strategy, they probably should have factored in what large groups of men with nothing left to lose do. “I gave you two choices; I could explain in excruciating detail the consequences of your actions, or you could just have fun. Did you have fun?”
@@sirwizalot7164 You hit it right on the nail, that's why porn, videogames, netflix, junk food, anime, mainstream entertainment, etc. are so readily available, it's to keep men dormant, numb, hooked to the poisons of modernity so they don't burn down the society that has promised them so much while giving back nothing in return except for disappointments and more responsabilities but without any authority or incentives to balance said expectations...
@@sirwizalot7164 I recommend you read *The Rational Male* 4 books and watch Rollo Tomassi's videos, that's all the insight you'll need ;)
@@transforgoku These men will be treated like all other veterans of all other wars, they're just veterans of different wars, the psychic kind.
@Muslimcel Of course, what else would they do, something constructive? That'd require imagination and thinking, fat chance.
“ I know not with what weapons WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones” -Albert Einstein
It is true they’re trying to Band-Aid our current situation with vices such as drugs and games, which is obviously not a long term solution. The last ditch effort of those in power to retain their power is war; Sending men with nothing left to lose to kill each other rather than allow revolt against the institutions that caused these problems in the first place. And as always women will sit on the sidelines playing the victim’s, choosing the Men who make it out alive. Whether it was ancient Greece or modern society, The expectation has always been for men to die; women have said as much. Well currently we may have lost any power and respect that comes in dying, we do have the power to choose a purpose in which we die for.
Polygamy was never normal, it used to be the case for extremely powerful men, like kings and members of higher nobility, so like 0.001% of the population.
Monogamy is ultimately the natural state for humans. It makes sense biologically, because children take a huge amount of time and care and to grow into adulthood, so stable couples are much more fit for survival of their children. Harems could potentially fulfill that only if the man has a vast amount of resources already available, and that only was the case, as mentioned before, of kings or the extremely rich.
Monogamy also leads to stable societies, what would have happened if in a prehistoric tribe of 100 people, the 10 strongest men would hoard most women to themselves? The other men would refuse to collaborate with the group, compromising the overall survival, or even worse revolt and kill the men at the top (being stronger or the best hunter in the tribe wouldn't save you from a handful of bloodlusted men that are out to get you).
Some may call this into question by saying that most men never ended up passing their genes to our times, while most women did. This doesn't actually compromise the claim that monogamy is the default, because infant mortality has always been very high, and men would die young more often than not since they were doing risky jobs and going to war all the time. Women would end up widows while still young and fertile, so they got picked up by other men
In precivilisation going back like 8k years, only 1 man reproduced for every 17 women. In all of human history 80% or women have reproduced to 40% of men. So your response is?
Every time a bad boy wins, a nice guy is saved. But society itself isn’t.
Until the Nice guy is no longer ""Nice""
There is a difference between staying in a toxic relationship, and staying in a relationship with problems.
The one child policy is from 1980. Not "centuries back"
If anything shows how insanely damaging it was
Not even 40 years later and now they have a crisis where now millions of men have no hope in finding a wife
@Joey Wheeler That’s literally what’s happening as we speak
Thousands of Chinese men are marrying African women right now
Better a foreigner than nobody
I said the same thing to myself when they said this in the episode, it was definitely not centuries ago haha
@@MarkJoseph81 if it was a century ago China's uncounted country girls would be massive "ghost" city where the actual number is like 7 million but on official count is 300,000
@@prettyboyjeremy African wives i doubt
It blows my mind when it comes to how badly it seems people, more specifically governing bodies have it out for single men. I’ve been married for about 10 years now and one of my best friends with whom I served with just lives life single and travels all over the world. He makes money by selling his own clothing online and what he gets from Uncle Sam and the VA.
According to governing bodies it seems he’s comparable to George Sodini for not shacking up. It seems as if they want to place the blame solely on single men for the huge drop in productivity, the fact that women dominate college campuses, and oh god especially the record low birth rates. Couldn’t imagine being compared to ol Timmy McVeigh because of wanting to live with no ties.
Being alone will cause madness. I know, I've been living with this madness for my whole life. I struggle with not letting it out and ruling my life. I put a lot of mental energy into it, and then on top of that I have to try expend more energy to get out of that isolation that drives me into madness only to encounter women who treat me like I'm disposable. Just dealing with them and the heartbreaks add more stress. I wonder how much I can take before I break
go-er.
I'm in the same boat as you. It only gets worse when you realize that breaking won't fix anything. The world won't take a time out for us. We might be the first generation to fail due to being deemed "ugly" when in reality we aren't. We must be the first generation to say no to sloppy seconds if we want any future generations to have a chance. Good luck out there I'm sure things will get better even if they have to get worse first.
It weird because where I live the type of man you are is attractive. But I feel because we are a third world country, women here are often judge as “fake” when approaching guys from other countries. “After the money”. When in reality, in other countries men are less violent, better at communication and act more civilized than some (not all) men in our country.
Heartbreaking.
I'm 100% on your side, days and months pass by and I don't feel like I'm living in that time, even though I have a muscular and shredded physique and recently finished law school but I am really isolated also mentally I often find myself being disgusted by people and hating them for living like a coward, I just don't fit in I think and without my girl it feels like my soul disappeared, I'm just functioning at work and in sports really hard to describe to you guys
Having been married twice and having 2 step daughters and 2 of my own, I have experienced a lot of the world in which they operate. Society seems to have convinced women that their sex organs are for literal transactions. The entitlement is sickening. Saying “no” is absolutely red rag to a bull.
My step daughter moved her boyfriend in to my home at aged 14. I said no, firmly. Her mother over rode me and allowed it. Eventually, 3 years later, she and her boyfriend were sending me to bed at 10pm because the “adults” wanted to watch television. She decided to not work and be a “housewife” in MY house and her boyfriend worked on apprentice wages. She demanded, demanded, demanded and eventually I said NO.
As you can predict, within 4 months she HATED me, said things like “I wouldn’t piss on his grave when he dies I hate him” and being incredibly disrespectful. Her mothers solution was to entirely blame me in that I shouldn’t have said no to her.
Whilst HATING me she still lived in my home, ate my food, was driven around in one of my cars, because obviously she is the boss.
This is indicative of the problem with the world right now.
Uhh, kick her ass out? I get what you're saying but holy shit grow a pair.
You must treat your daughter with the discipline of the rod and calm her hormones! Like my father put upon me.
@@ludaheracles7201 I can’t, she isn’t my daughter.
@@snakeshift9172 nope. I tried that and her mother will not under any circumstances whatsoever kick her out. She smokes weed in the house, full sexual relationship at 14 and goddam does she critique my life and work ethic. I do 70 hours a week with a major disability. Her opinion is that I am a shit father because I am not at home and when I am there I am exhausted. This is coming from a kid that has never actually worked a single day.
Welcome to the redpill world.
Online dating and social media have created exactly that situation. Where a tiny percentage of dudes has most of the women and a huge swathe of men are discarded.
And culture and society celebrates it.
Roosh V said it in that video that the smartphone was the beginning of the downfall. Free attention looms abundantly from the SIMPs. 🤔😑
You are absolutely correct, hence the decreasing numbers in recruitment for the Armed Forces.
I've pretty much accepted that I'm part of the ~40% of men who won't reproduce. It would be so much better if I weren't still afflicted with the biological imperative and the fiction of love.
Now if only I could stop caring because so far try as I may everytime I see a nice Woman I think hey you should go talk to her then reality snaps back in " wtf you mean talk to her no no no keep walking " but it's that brief moment of desire that reminds me I am very lonely and want someone and idk if drinking will make that go away cause if I did I'd be tempted
Same here but I’m a woman 🥲 life sucks when all you want is a happy marriage, kids and a house to grow old in. But that will never happen
From my perspective it is better not to have something, than to have it be taken away.
I last saw my son on his 2nd birthday, his Mum "lost" the divorce due to her stupidity. However the court readily believed her accusations about my violent temper.
The only way to see him was for me to say I was guilty, get court approved anger management treatment, be at the mercy of her anger, and the courts assumption of my guilt.
That was over 30 years ago, I've not seen him since.
@@jaidee9570 wow that’s crazy. Why not just take the classes? Surely your pride isn’t worth not being in your sons life
@WomenHateShortMen you can't buy love but can buy sex, just buy sex and get it out of your system so you only live with one problem instead of two.
Very good! Thank you! Almost every discussion of this topic is filled with venom. You guys provide constructive feedback & propose solutions. This world needs more people like you guys.
The imbalance is pretty bad right now and I can only hope that over the long run things will start returning back to a reasonable 'new normal'.
I am willingly celibate and alone. I just want to enjoy what I love and if someone comes along that wants to share those things someday. Cool.
I have been stable and happy for 3 years now. I had a few lifelong mental health and anger issues which I am still working on. But being alone has allowed for significant progress. I only have me to look at or worry about.
It doesn't looks very welcoming out there in the dating world anyways. A lot of landmines.