New Product Testing - SNAP-ON FDX Sockets - Do They Work?
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- New Product Testing - SNAP-ON FDX Sockets - Do They Work?
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New Product Testing - SNAP-ON FDX Sockets - Do They Work?
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This is an extreme rounded off fastener situation. I will be doing more testing on other types of rounded off fasteners as well as using them in every day situations. STAY TUNED!
The Snap-On Tool Review can you update on snap on extended cordless ratchet
If possible do a head to head with Mac precision tourqe sockets against the fdx I'm just curious
The Snap-On Tool Review would like to see more tests with this product
neil that long cordless is designed for reach not power.
30ft-lb is the safe limit to not cross thread fasteners. The Milfuckee will power right through the threads and strip them out.
could you have used a sized down regular flank drive in either metric or sae which ever fit the best since you grounded the fasterners a little too much?
I bought 3 sets
Deep and short 3/8 drive standard
1/4 drive deep metric absolutely love it
My tool guy walked to the shop bolt bin all grade 10 bolts jacked it up with a adjustable wrench in the vise . I removed all of them I highly recommend these for people who deal with messed up nuts and bolts
Their tight tolerances are built around a hex fastener, therefore you need some part of that original fastener intact for it to work properly. In the case of the FDX sockets, they grab close to the center of the flat part of the hex. In order for them to work, you need a flat portion of the fastener to still be there for the socket to grasp. Grinding down each corner AND side of the fastener now takes that fastener down to a smaller size and now your tight tolerances that the sockets are designed around are no longer there.
My $10,000 worth of sockets is not obsolete? Woo hoo!!!!
To be fair it looked like you touched the flats with the grinder....
I do appreciate the unbiased review.
Thanks and great video, I normally push down on a socket when wrenching fasteners, especially when using a deep. It may have made a difference in this test.
Flank drive xtra are designed to grab on the flat spots and you grinded the whole nut down which downsized the nut. When you round a nut with a socket and use the flank drive Xtra they work great. I'm probably never come up against a grinded off nut lol
You should use a harbor freight one size too big to round off
I agree! Tightening the test hardware with an impact gun and sockets sized too big is the best real-world type of situation.
I have spanner that have small teeth in open end that can take off one size too big bolts just hammer a socket on
I got those off the truck this week. Loving them so far
They seem to be crap. I don't really see the need at this point. They made their flank drive sockets with a tighter tolerance. It slightly moved the direct pressure applied to the fastener in a tad more towards the flat away from the corner. You took away the flat therefore it would not work. If you have a slightly rounded fastener you are better off using a turbo and throwing it away like you normally would. I do like the larger engraving and I do like the raised edges to give you a better grip to pull it from the tool. This tool serves no purpose in my box. My ranking? 2 wrenches down!
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I have handled those sockets and they do seem like they would work in real world situations, like a nut or bolt that lost a size or 2 due to rust. The price kept me from pulling the trigger.
Holes in the test. When you grind something down two sizes smaller then the normal size, of course, it will slip. I have them in 1/4”, 3/8” in both mm and SAE. I USE them every day, and they work and work great. There is no ”Perfect” socket that will take off every rounded fastener. But, the xtra sockets do take off rounded blots. The are the best I have found to take off normally rounded bolts. SnapOns Xtra do work. I own SnapOn, Mac, Cornwell, and Matco, we find SnapOn’s sockets are the best on the market.
I was on the fence on whether to by some, I think I will wait, probably get the turbo sockets
What happened to the days of grabbing a socket (cheap one) and pounding it on with a hammer and taking it off? Or is the day of the farmer wrenching dead?
heat it up
Stephen Shanko not always an option
Started off with a shine-maker pad...
N00B 😂
Thanks for the video, I think I'll save my money and use my liquid wrench.
Torch.
I paid $303 before tax they work great on rusted on exhaust bolts no heat needed apply to break loose but I think you rounded the f out of those 14mm bolts I think if you hammered on a 13 you would have broke them loose I only had semi deep and regular sockets from snap on I needed 3/8 deep so I got a set to complete my socket set I like them they have saved me a couple hours out of my life
I have a cheap sets of 12 point sockets that I hammer on. Works pretty good and super inexpensive
I think they are more designed for fastners that someone rounded off with a open ended wrench type scenario
Absolutely
OR vise grips or other means......
than why create another set of sockets for the job if they aren't for situations the other set can't do. just trying to give SO a pass on a fail.
As snap on has said this set wasn't designed to replace their current socket sets but rather for use in certain situations but they can be used more often if needed.
What’s the difference lol it’s rounded either way!
Do you have an updated review on these fdx set. Have you continued to use them, to where you feel differently about them. Or were they returned. Thanks.
Thank you for doing probably the best tool review without all the BS fluff. Straight to the point compared to other tool review videos on youtube.
If you round a bolt of and know youll have to replace it use a blue point twist socket they always grab
Is that when your Snap-on sockets Bell mouth and strip out Nuts and Bolts. Then you try your chromies and they crack. I'm finding grey pneumatic and offshore sockets made with S2 Steel are stronger
I’d suggest trying to round off a bolt using the wrong size socket like a 5/8 on a 15mm bolt then try. That’s what I have seen the most rounded off bolts were people don’t know what they are doing just grab something that catches
Usually when the bolt is rounded its also rusted so I think it would need more than 50ft-lbs
Might have to talk about returns with my SnapOn guy lol
great demonstration , should've try going down a size socket since its rounded off to the extreme. Looking forward for more videos
The FDX sockets work great I have them and use them a lot
I keep considering a set of these. Just can’t decide if they’ll be shallow, semi deep, or deep. Tempted to just get semi deep as a compromise size.
How often do I see them rounded off? Oh that just depends on whether I tried to use a 12pt first 😆
I am just wondering new socket works well for rusty fasteners. If that new product works well, I would get one set.
I’m a huge Snap-On fan, but, I’m going to have to think about this purchase.
Darn, I really wish you had popped a turbo socket on there. The stuff you work on is probably too new, but I really wonder how well these things work on rusty exhaust hardware. My SOP for exhaust stuff is to pound on a smaller socket, heat, pray then give it some torque. Not having to hammer on a socket would be nice. I was also thinking about all the Subaru 10mm bolts when doing a timing belt, valve covers and/or headgaskets. Those always frequently rust down to 9-9.5mm. And of course Ford’s love of 7-8mm fasteners.
BlindBatG34 story of my fn life
Same lol
BlindBatG34 You just gave me a great idea in regards to EXHAUST bolts you mentioned. Think I'll hammer the rust loose and go with my new FDX Metric sockets I bought the other day for $175 ish American before taxes. Probably could've got them cheaper but there was another customer on the truck so my haggling skills couldn't be used plus the boss wasn't around. His driver was running the truck. IF they perform well them the standard set may be next.
Obviously he doesn't work on many Ontario cars where the fasteners rot away from all the road salt.
They may be a compliment for my snap on turbo sockets but evidently not a replacement
I agree. use a cheapo socket one size too big and use an impact gun and round the bolt/nut down. sometimes one size up can still do the job, in this case start two sizes up and then one size up. this would be closer to real world rounding vs cutting off the edges. The idea of these fdx sockets is they grip further away from the corner but not exactly the middle of the flat.
The FDX sockets are marketed as having more turning power than flank drive sockets. ie...more torq before rounding off a nut or bolt. Not specifically for rounded nuts and bolts. Turbo sockets are for rounded nuts and bolts.
I have these been a couple weeks now they work well on a normally stipped head and or a little rounded off but nothing extremely rounded
my go to is the turbo sockets! i can't put the fasteners back on but hey they come off which is more important to me!
yes i use them and they work
Did they explain why its not for everyday use? Does it chew up the bolts or something?
Could you go down a size on the fdx to see if that would work
I have the fdx. So far I love them. Pulling a pressure plate last guy to do the job rounded all the 10mm bolts. Was going to smash a 3/8 onto them but the fdx pulled them like butter. I really like how well they hold a bolt alto to get in into a tight corner. I admit they are very tight but I’m going to use them as my go to sockets. I figure if they save me any time at all they were well worth it.
If you don’t have a set of snap on sockets this will be great to have but if you already own snap on socket flank drive dunno if it’s worth the change over.
Should have tightened the round off with the tourque wrench and found the tourque it slipped at
I got the set of 3 pwz's when they were on sale with my snap on guy and love them
Wrong! So today I had a VW come in with a stripped out LOCKING STUD KEY inside was totally chewed customer stated not to damage aluminum rim so no heat tried turbo sockets drilling easy out literally nothing worked didn’t look up torque spec for wheel but at least 80lb agreed those FDX sockets WITH one of those air hammer wrench adapters boom came off say what you want but I was impressed
My Snap On dealer showed these sockets (and our shop bought 1 set so far and had his display board with rounded bolts .. The sockets look the same inside but I never actually tried one on a good bolt (will have to) , but the only way the socket could be tighter on a bolt would be if the socket isn't actually the size stamped on the side .. A 12mm socket would have to be 11.? mm ... Is that right..?
lufkin tape probabaly 12mm is 11.5mm or something like that
Shoulda gone down 1 size on the socket. Guarantee if you put a mic on the nuts they aren't near size spec, so why would a spec sized socket work?
Just use a old gator socket, always worked for me on nuts and bolts rounded off.
The best I've used to get off rounded off fasteners was the gearwrench bolt biters works the best after watching several video on this topic
Could you try a flank drive plus socket but one size down ? Save you buying the FDX?
I’m looking to get a set of hex, torx, and triple square socket sets. What are the best ones to get and the most commonly used
Hammer a 1mm size smaller on the rounded off nut! See if this works.
kent570253 I work in machine repair, and the only problem is, is that sometimes the part the bolt is connected to can’t be pounded on.
Good luck when its buried in engine bay
I like how he said "no cracks straight out the box" lol because he knows as do i that they crack really easy
Ha, here in Wisconsin, we get fasteners just like that on Isuzu w4 light duty trucks. The metal they use just deteriorates and rusts away. Don't see much of that on class a trucks, just mostly the foreign stuff. I have an old set of metrinch (the German made ones) I received as a gift in the early 90s maybe even late 80s, but the sockets and wrenches fit most metric and sae, with one socket, and work great for really rounded nuts and bolts. Haven't broken one yet, used chrome on 3/8 impact, I know, bad idea, but nonethe less, never broken . Warranty is still valid.
Doesn't snap on sell "turbo sockets" for an exuberant amount of money, seems like the same type of tool, just chrome and ov erpriced. I'm lucky enough to have mostly all the tools I need (28 year tractor trailer mech) heck I've got the same snap on box from 1989 when I traded my school 7 drawer lower from snap on. They won't warranty the lifetime box, but that's another story, and why I refuse to give my hard earned money so his kids can go to college. Just my opinion but, I'm trashing anyone.
Joel--I don't believe you talked about it, but in addition to being a Flank Drive Plus socket, is it actually smaller internally than a comparable flank drive socket? In other words, given a 9/16" flank drive socket, is the comparable FDP socket actually about 8.5/16", with the narrowing caused by a more "rounded" (i.e., prominent) flank? Is it now shaped such that it grips at the CENTER of each flank to deal with the rounded-over portion of the nut or bolt? I hope this makes sense; I hadn't heard of these new sockets before, and I'm struggling to understand how they differ from standard sockets. Turbo sockets work by decreasing in size the deeper you go into them; in addition, they have sharp, helical flanks (spiraling inward) that dig into the fastener to further grip it. They are very effective at removing rounded-over or frozen/corroded nuts and bolts. While the FDP sockets are interesting, I'm not sure I would rush out to buy a set (or multiple sets) of them. It would seem that you're going to replace that fastener anyway, so it doesn't matter how badly you tear it up removing it with a turbo socket. One other note: Turbo sockets work on the wedge principle; they can handle several sizes of fasteners within each socket size, making a set practical for both SAE and Metric use.
Great sockets as are all Snap-On sockets. Definitely not for every day use! Great channel by the way keep up the good work!
just bought shallow and deep sets in metric. haven't used it but itching to try
I use bluepoint twist socket.thanks for the video.
I would have liked to see what level of torque each of those sockets could have achieved, before slipping, on those highly rounded off fasteners.
I have them and they work great you should have rounded them off with a socket or a wrench the grinder took to much off
I figured those sockets were a gimmick. Thanks For the video. I almost bought them last week.
I did have different results stripping a fastener with a wrench. I’ll post a video for Wednesday.
The Snap-On Tool Review, I'll stay tuned. I got caught in the flank drive wrenches when they first came out in the mid 2000's. I work on air systems quite a bit and they always destroy brass fittings, where the normal wrenches have no problems. I think like the sockets they do serve a purpose but like you said they are not meant to be an every day use.
I have a set of matco impact socket that grab the sides instead of the edge and those things work awesome
Great test Joel. This video gave me a good reason to consider the blue-point deep twist-off socket set. Already have the shallow set but this situation requires the deep ones
Do you thinking a regular Snap-On socket is worth it over other quality brands like Gearwrench, Tekton, Stanley etc etc? My sockets are Stanly and as long as I'm not a tard with them, I've never had an issue.
Great testing. Thankyou.
I really never had much luck with rounded off bolts
I see rounded nuts and bolts from using an open end or adjustable wrench that's not tight against the hex. I just use the PWZs and they come off. Not sure if I'll spend that kind of money on these, maybe on Flank Bites from Astro Tools.
Ya those bolts looked pretty messed up. Dont know if snapon has spline drive but those looked like good candidates for them. I know mine has taken off some pretty f-up ones off and if the right size does not work you can normally get it with the next size smaller sae to mm or vice versa
Thanks Joel. There are always limits. These sockets will work to a certain limit, beyond that, something else will have to do. I imagine when they will work, using one of these is faster than a welder/extractor/etc.
SK Turbo Sockets are far superior to these Snap On FDX sockets. A complete SK set can be had for about $180 and actually work on rounded off and extremely rusted fasteners.
I like mine. I rounded off the bolts on the EGR on a Jeep the other day and the fdx socket for the bolt out.
Fenriz Wulf See. I never actually hear anyone that owns these say they don’t like them
With all the bolt extractors out there, I don't get what Snap on is trying to do here.
You must really love snap on there is no doubt they are good quality but you just proved to yourself that these don't work and still couldn't knock them. like you said and maybe should have shown the turbo sockets see if they took them off because they weren't that tight or on rusted damaged threads so all that extra money was it well spent? but still liked the video
Bob Moore seeing as snap on pays him he can't knock them
My set of PWZs I purchased have saved my ass many times in the semi tractors industry so many times lol
It's a cool idea, but for me working in auto body, it's got way too tight of tolerances for them painted fasteners like you said. 👍🏼
why not just use the turbo sockets , they work incredibly well
I could only see it work maybe on a waiter oil change where you don’t have time for fuckery. Just buy that one or two sizes for the line of drain plugs you work with.
HAHAHAHA Fuck yeah!
You should compare them to Macs precision torque sockets.. I don't own them other than a 1/2 set I got got free with my long 1/2 ratchet, most of my sockets are snap on but I gotta say those mac sockets work really good on rounded nuts.
I actually really appreciate the honest review, thanks!
Here's how you test the "new tech".. TIGHTEN a low grade fastener, like chinesium grade, or even brass. Tighten till the head strips with regular snap on socket, with electronic torque adapter. Do the same with the new FDX socket.. See which does better. See what the marks look like on the fastener.. Which grabs further away from the points? Interpret the results. Post video.
I use a torch and zip gun in some instances as it's only a $1 bolt if even that much.
Snap on is all we use and will buy these as soon as we can
Thanks for doing this Joel and thanks for posting it even though it did not work out in the tools favour in this case.
Need Metrinch sockets if its that round since they grip on the flat sides
What it they will work once the bolt has been rounded off naturally
How often does a full time mechanic run into rounded off bolts any cuz for me a rear and it been at 6 years as a diesel tech
I wonder how they would compare against turbo/twist sockets?
Yea Iam just goin to stick to my normal snap on sockets and use my turbo socket for stripped bolts.
I saw that coming
I would like to see the stripped nut test redone with nuts that were actually rounded by a wrench. Maybe try that instead of using a grinder.
Thanks for this Joel I was going to purchase these glad you did this for us
I’ll be passing on these and just stick with my turbos
Should have used an open-end wrench to round them
Can you get the sae set and see if it might be closer to the size after you round the fastener
Snap on fdx wrench work great when I do front end alignment when adjusting tie rod
In a scenario like in this video, I would just hammer something like a harbor freight 12 point the next size down. If that doesn’t work, the cutting torch is your best friend. It can’t be tight if it’s a liquid.
I thought that too. I think the ONLY time I've ever used a 20mm socket was for this trick.
Neat review man. Are you going to keep those FDX sockets or returned them?
Bluepoint twist sockets would have ripped the off no problem....
Thanks for this video it was super helpful. Answered all my questions about them.
Ok I have a dumb question. Are the tolerances on these too tight for comfortable every days use? If not would you suggest using this set as an every day set for bolts that are perfectly fine?
I have a set of snap on twisty sockets they will take anything off including those A little more money but well worth it
Did you try a smaller size?
Like the great ave would say
Garbage or put it in the art bin