In that time they fight for religion. Albanian and Greek christians against otttoman turks and albanian muslims. After the war many albanians slowly got more and more Greek, example greeks claim the Albanian fustanella.
@@blueshadow5755 no, why should he stay at that? there are a many who say that he was no how Albanian, in any way. This is not correct. He is making a correction, rather than telling people what they should do
υπηρχαν οντος αλβανοφωνοι ελληνες που βοηθησανε στην ελληνικη επανασταση και τους ευχαριστουμε πολυ ! Οι αλβανοι ειναι αδερφια μας .Ελληνες ειμαστε αχαριστοι ντρεπομαι για τα σχολια σας(οπως ντρεπομαι για τα σχολια ζηλιας και ανθελληνισμου των αλβανων )
Problemi esht qe shume greke nje perqindje e madhe nuk e kuptojn qe te vetmit me te perafert ne ballkan jan greket dhe shqiptaret.smund te jesh vella me sllavet si thojn shume greke.duhet te informohennte lexojn me shume jo ti fryj politika e keqe apo kosha ortodoxe greke.dihet shume mire qe shqiptaret ka qen faktori kryesor ne ballkan cdo histori fillon nga shqiptaret.shume deformim nder vite inkan bo historiae dhe origjines se shqiptareve por nuk ja kan arritur dhe as skan per ta arritur kurre.dihet kush esht gjuha shqipe dhe shqiptaret
Hi everyone! It is an interesting fact to see that the albanian muslims are usually called turkalvanos or albanianturks or just turks by many greeks in the commentaries. My question is, what do you (greeks) call the albanian catholics and albanian orthodox? Are they also turks according to you? Remember, there are more than 1 million albanian christians (catholic and orthodox) being proud of their albanian identity. By the way albanian people, whether muslim or christians, would feel very offended to be called turk since they actually suffered a lot from turks as well. Could we (greeks and albanians) just make peace soon!!!!!!????? The arvanites are the best example for this peace. They spoke albanian but where integrated into greek identity. It means that many greeks have albanian blood. So, how can we be so rasist to each other when we maybe have so much in common? Yes, a lot of shit happened but most of it is exaggerated.
I AM half arvanite we are so closed to culture and race with illyrians not all nowdays albanians are illyrians there are also caucasians mixed with illyrians and abaars i think we are the most closest genetically races
illyrian Labi Whaaat? I mean ok a percent spoke albanian dialect. What kind of extreme nationalism is that?Turkish? We never assimilated to Turks like you did so we didn't spoke turkish.
DizzyGuard Albanians are not assimilated to turks we still speak our own language Albanian so do the Arvanitët they still speak our beautiful Albanian Language ! What about greeks they say that they are greeks but todays greek language is Aromanian Byzantine Language and it has nothing to do with old Greek language ! new aromanian byzantine language with old Greek language is like Chinese with english nowhere near so stop eating shit with you fake info
@@DizzyGuard If you are Arvanitas and you wana tell us you are Greek than you are Gipsy from Egypt,lfuck you and dont speak my Divine language the Lord language, Ried if you can : Lord Byron about the modern Greek language 1809. Byron wrote only the tru reality that he was seeing .Under the directives of his kingdom,Byron helped the Greek indenpedency. The number of Greek population was wery low when Byrom visited Balkans. In the entire Balkan peninsula only 300,000 Greeks could be found that time.The real and true name of these people was Gypsy from ancient Time.The people of Balkan peninsula were calling the people or imigrants who arrived from Egypt in the short form as Gypsy. They were Dark and some were Black. The imigrants spoke the broken latin. In ancient time the latin language was the language of Romans and universal language that all countries were using for bilateral relatiion.They wealthy in order to be diffrent from the poor and the others started to use the latin language.Their servants started also to learn this language but they spoke the broken Latin. This broken Latin language later was known as a Greek language, and with the modification of this language Today is known as a Modern Greek Language. So you can fel a piec of shit to but the tru it is Arvanitas , Arberesh , Albanians are the Descendants of Pelasgien Ilyrian and Gipsy Greeks have nothing to do because the DNA says evrything : The Albanian DNA Cavalli Sfroza : But if the Albanians are not Illyrians, who are they? The geneticist Cavalli Sforza 1997 carried out a study on the genetic data of European populations obtained by using the classifications of blood groups and the DNA markers relating to the Y chromosome. His conclusions, now universally accepted, have contributed decisively to reconstructing the historical and geographical evolution of the human gender. Well according to Cavalli Sforza the Albanians would be the most ancient people of Europe.
pershendetje per te gjith arvanitet qe sa do pak e kuptojne shqipen . kam deshir tju kujtoj qe grek nuk do beheni kurr se jeni gjak i paster shqiptar qe ju duhet te jeni shum krenar se ju e keni kriu greqin pra ju duhet ti mbani meritat tuja edhe pse greket mundohen tjua njollosin
Πήγαινε να ανοίξεις σωστά βιβλία απο τις βιβλιοθήκες να ανοίξεις τα μάτια σου.. ααααα και που είσαι πέρνα μια βόλτα από το στρατιωτικό μουσείο του Παρισιού που έχει τα σπαθιά και τα όπλα του Μπότσαρη και διάβασε προσεκτικά τις επιγραφές εκεί πέρα και αν βρεις την Λέξη "grec" πάνω στις επιγραφές του θα περιμένω να με απαντήσεις , επειδή η αλήθεια πάντα πονάει και είναι προκλητική σου γράφω ότι ήταν Αρβανίτης , έμαθε Ελληνικά στην εφηβεία και έγραψε το γνωστό λεξικό της "Ρομαικοίς απλής και της Αρβανίτικης (Αλβανικής γλώσσας)" Τώρα πάρε ένα πέος ίσα μέχρι το σπαθί του Μπότσαρη και ξαναβάφτισε τον Έλληνα... αααα και που είσαι μην χρησιμοποιείς τον όρο Ελληνας ξανά , Ρωμιός υπήρχε πριν 100 χρόνια , η λέξη 'Ελληνας είχε ξεχαστεί για 2000 έτη κάτι που ξέθαψε ο Κοραής. Και μιας ο Μποτσαρης ήταν Σουλιώτης, ο Αραβαντινος υποστηριζει οτι οι Σουλιωτες «οι πλειστοι των εις το Σουλιον προκατοικησαντων υπηρχον Αλβανικης φυλης,καταγομενοι οι εκ της Γαρδικης κωμης της Παραμυθιας» ακόμα και ο Κοραής.αποδεχεται οτι οι Σουλιωτες αποτελουν εθνολογικο μιγμα,αλλα...«Εστω οτι οι Σουλιωται καταγονται απο τοιουτον μιγμα νικητων και νικηθεντων,μη,δια τουτο ηναι ολιγωτερον Ελληνες απο τους Κωνσταντινουπολιτας...» επίσης σου συνιστώ να αρχίσεις να ψάξεις για τα Πελάσγικα θα πάθεις ζημιά όταν καταλάβεις ότι εκείνη αρχαία Γλώσσα που αναφερόταν ο Όμηρος μεταφράζετε μόνον εις την Αλβανική Γλώσσα και όχι στην Αρχαία Ελληνική , γιατί μόνον στην Αλβανική βγαίνει νόημα. Τώρα όσο ανιστόρητος είσαι τόσο γελοίος καταντάς εδώ μέσα , και μην πετάς προπαγάνδες χωρίς να διαβάζεις όλη την Ιστορία των Βαλκανίων και όχι μόνον
Επίσης συνεχίζω ο Κοραής σε επιστολη του προς την Σουλιώτικη Γερουσία των Δώδεκα(Πλεκεσια) συμβουλεύει «...να φερετε εις την πατριδα σας κανενα δασκαλον να διδασκει τα φιλτατα τεκνα σας την Ελληνικην γλωσσαν...». Ο Παπαρρηγοπουλος τους θεωρει ιδανικο Ελληνοαλβανικο μιγμα και ο Κορδατος δεν τους θεωρει ουτε Ελληνες ουτε αξιους ιστορικης μνημονευσης,αλλα ληστοσυμμοριτες. Οπότε για να στα κανω πιο απλα στο στο κλεισμενο τυφλο φανατικο εθνικιστικο μυαλο σου που τα βλεπεις ολα Ελληνικα , Ανθρωποι και ηρωες της Ελληνικης Ιστοριας όπως ο Κοραής ο μεγάλος στοχαστής τής ελληνικής γλώσσας όπως επίσης ο Παπαρηγόπουλος ο πατέρας της σύγχρονης Ελληνικής Ιστορίας μιλάει για τους Αρβανίτες (Σουλιώτες) και άλλες φάρες ότι είναι Αλβανοί ... ¨οσο και να θες να πετάξεις την προπαγάνδα σου. Ηρωες Ελληνες της Ελληνικης ιστορίας τα εχουν γραψει αυτα και φανερωνουν την Αληθεια που αργοτερα ο Μεταξας βαφτισε ολες τις μοινοτητες Ελληνες... στο καλο τωρα και να ανοιγεις βιβλια
Souliotis ΣΟΥΛΙΩΤΗΣ το επίπεδο νοημοσύνης σου από το δημοτικό σε προδίδει αγαπητέ φαντασμένε φίλε του δημοτικού, γιατί με την μικρή σου πρότασουλα που έγραψες "δηθεν" να μου την πεις (ΕΥΓΕ) καρφώθηκες από μόνος σου το πόσο αμαθείς , ανιστόρητος , ξερόλας , προπαγανδιστής , παρλαπίπας είσαι πίσω από το πληκτρολόγιο... θα σου απαντήσω φυσικά στο σχόλιο σου διότι το πλάσαρες... στην Αθήνα υπάρχει μια περιοχή που ονομάζεται "Βύρωνας" (για να δεις τώρα που θα το πάω) , ονομάστηκε έτσι σαν τιμή φόρου εις τον Εθνικό Ήρωα της Ελλάδος "Λόρδος Βύρων" ... και έρχομαι λοιπόν και σε ερωτώ .... Έχεις διαβάσει τίποτα από όσα έγραψε αυτός ο Άνθρωπος εκείνη την εποχή ;;; η απάντηση φυσικά είναι όχι... διότι αν θα είχες διαβάσει δεν θα έγραφες "τράβα διάβασε κάνα ξένο βιβλίο" , επίσης μιας και αρχίσαμε αυτή την συζήτηση , τον Dr. jur. Johann Georg von Hahn τον γνωρίζεις ;;; ρίξε τον μια ματιά , τον Paolo Paruta τον γνωρίζεις ;;; ρίξε επίσης μια ματιά και εκεί ... Τον Dominic John Corrigan ;;; ρίξε μια ματιά και σε αυτόν , αααα και να διαβάσεις και το βιβλίο της Edith Durham "Burden of the Balkans" θες να σου γράψω όλα τα βιβλία να πεταχτείς μια βόλτα σε καμία βιβλιοθήκη της πόλης σου να μάθεις ανεξάρτητη πραγματική ιστορία ή προτιμάς αυτή του δημοτικού ;;;; αααααα που είσαι... εντάξει σου έβαλα δύσκολα ομολογώ.... θα σε πω κάτι πιο εύκολο... πήγαινε άνοιξε Ηρόδοτο και Όμηρο σου έχουν δώσει αυτοί απαντήσεις για να μην απορείς... επίσης και τον βυζαντινό ιστορικό Μιχαήλ Ατταλειάτη. Άντε αγόρι μου που θα με πεις και Αλβανιάρη και τουρκόσπορο :) πλάκα έχεις. τι ειρωνεία όμως εε ;; αποκαλείς κάποιον Αλβανιάρη όταν οι ρίζες σου είναι από εκεί ρε Αλβανέ :P αααααα και για να μην απορείς ... με Φινλανδικό διαβατήριο και χρόνια στο εξωτερικό χωρίς καν να με γνωρίζεις ποιος είμαι και με αποκαλείς Αλβανιάρη είναι πραγματικά ειρωνία για έναν που έχει ρίζες απο εκεί και απλά έτυχε να γεννήθηκε σε χώμα που λέγεται Ελλάς ... εεε ρε τι πλάκα έχεις... ααααα και κάτι τελευταίο.. θες να βάλουμε φωτογραφίες τις μούρες μας στο εξωτερικό να δεις ποιον θα αποκαλέσει τουρκοσπορο ο κοσμάκης εδώ στην Β. Ευρωπη ;;; :P Αντε βόλτα τώρα στην βιβλιοθήκη και άσε την πάρλα εδώ μέσα
Against Albanians? WTF, MArko Botsaris was albanian as well, Arvanites. Even Ali Pasha Tepelena helped greek revolution against turks. Marko Boçaro wrote the first dictionary in Greek-Albanian language! Shame on stupid racist.
AlGangsta Vlore Arvanites were proud Greeks who participated to the Greek war of indepence against the Ottomans Turks and albanians , Arvanites hated the albanians considered them as Turkish sperm and enemies of the Greek nation
"We remark that the term "Albanian" is not an ethnic qualification but, as the terms "Zouave" and "Dragon", is used as GENERIC to certain corps of infantry, formations of mercenaries recruited among Christians of Turkey. The Albanian Regiments were used also by the Italians and the French". Bode, Andreas (1975). «Albaner und Griechen als Kolonisten in Neurussland"», Beitrage zur Kenntnis Sudosteuropas und des Nahen Orients, Munchen, vol. 16 (1975), pp. 29-35
"The ethnonym "Albanian", where it is found in medieval sources, has one of the following meanings: a) Someone who speaks Albanian, b) someone from the geographical area of Albania, REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN, and c) a man of the mountains and the countryside". Schmitt Jens Oliver (2009), Skanderbeg: Der neue Alexander auf dem Balkan, pp. 353, 354
"In 1790 in their letter to Catherine the Great written in an archaic Greek language, the Souliotes expressed their desire for help in the war against the centuries-old enemy of the faith 'for the redemption of the descendants of the Athenians and the Lacedemonians'. In fact they declared their plan for a great and widespread revolt, which would gather 300,000 Greeks, who would unite with the Russians and march against Constantinople." Anargyros Fagkridas, pp. 53 "Souli" Gkovosti Publications
@PavlosDionysus he didnt die for greece, he was pure albanian and he was living in the native albanian part wich in his time was in ''greek borders'' and of course this innocent albanian(arvanitas) guy thought that in order to protect his albanian house h ehas to protect greece cuz that part of ancient albania belonged to greece in markos time, and in marco bocari's story u can see how the ALBANIAN KILT was adopted by greeks!
@@uneti463 I am a very proud arvanite arberes ,my ancestors fought for Suli not for what Greece represents today!my grand grandfather spoke his mother tounge language, the same language that George Castriota Scenderbeg spoke!That language that is God's language, is called Arvanitica,Arbereoj language!
"Included under the GENERIC name of Arnauts, it was recruited from Roumeliote Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians and Servians, who acted as body-guards to the princes, the great functionaries, and even the simple Boyards." Gordon Thomas, History of the Greek revolution, 1844, London & Edinburgh, 2nd edition, volume 1, page 95.
@giordanwhite Markos Botsaris , c.1788-1823, Greek patriot. Exiled from his native Epirus in 1803, he joined Ali Pasha in 1820 and later was prominent in the Greek … ENCYCLOPEDIA COLUMBIA.....
@Greece 1821 if you ask greeks even black afraicans are greek ..even chinese are greekk... turkish coffee nooooo is greek coffeeeee. Ahahahhahahahaha where does greece produce coffee man ahahahhahaah
@pelasgian3 Arvanites are a big part of our history this doesn't mean that is also a part of Albanian...They separate themshelfes when they gave oaths in Filiki Etereia (the secret Greek organisation that planed the rebelion) that they will serve their country Greece and their religion Greek Orthodox Christianity...
😄 🤣 You are telling me that my blood lines roots can become water just by attending in a secret meeting???!!! Haha.I can chose to be a Greek citizen but I can't change my nationality!My Nationality is given to me by God and I can't change it!My Citizenship is given to my by the government, and I can decide to give up from one Citizenship to get another citizenship based on my personal interest!My nationality is my language, my culture, my tradition, my blood lines,my roots!How can I change my nationality ????
3:51Marko Bocari only spoke Albanian. He learned to speak greek because he wanted to understand what TurkoGreek Armatolos say when they fight against him.
@grterx 7381 Τσάμης εθνικιστης; καθόλου περίεργο τοτε μακαρι να ευθυνεται μονο αυτος γιατι οτι διάβασα ηταν πραγματικά θλιβερό Btw grterx εχουμε ξαναμιλίσει ηθελα να σε ρωτήσω πως και ασχολείσαι τοσο με την καταγωγή μας εισαι Αρβανίτης η Αλβανός;
@grterx 7381 Κατάλαβα εμενα μου ειπαν για τις παλιές ριζες μας η οικογένεια μου ξέρουμε απλα δεν θέλουμε καμία σχεση με την Αλβανια η τους σημερινούς Αλβανους ειμαστε Ελληνες
Aikaterini Liakou o te qift Greqi ropt ty mu ku i ke ! Back then it did not matter the only thing that mattered was to beat the ottoman turks ! since you fake Byzantine greeks wer not able to beat the ottoman turks the Albanians beat the turks and gave greece independence ! But you are ignorant enough to not know the real history ! Greeks were Vasals of Ottoman turks
@@aikaterinikatsakiori3907 den katalava ti thelis na pis katerina diladi eisete albanikis katagogjis omos den thelete na epikinoniste me tin katagogji sas endaksei omos pios eine o logos borite na mu eksegjiste giati eine ligaki paraxeno den periazei omos giati apla
@KRONOSELLAS Do you know that in 2000 years archaeologists will dig Athens and will discover there a MCDonalds fast food, will decide that english was the native language there?
KYRIAKOS ZEIBEKIS you dont have history you are Byzantine Aromanian from Istanbull Kico Bocari Marko Bocari Foto Xhavella and many more were Albanians Free South Epirus from Byzantine Aromanian Gypsies that Prosecuted Arvanitët for speaking their own Native Albanian Language !
Greece 1821 Byzantine Malaka todays Byzantine language has nothing to do woth old greece language ! you are fake byzantine gypsy with fake fabricated history ! Byzantine never had HEROES Byzantines always steal history and HEROES LIARS and thiefs
Greece 1821 ik ore bythqirë ! Ke shit bythen per 400 euro tek Janullatos Bythqiri ! Do ju pushkatojm si at bythqirin Zagarin KACIFA !!! vdekje Byzantinve MAXHUP
Greece 1821 un do t'jap 600 euro dhe me jep gjith gjirin familiar ti Shkerdhej nga prapa !!! Bythqir Maxhup Byzantin hik shko boji Gojore Janullatosit ropcir maxhup
"Their contribution in that conflict, although less well known, can be compared to those of the Souliotes on land and the Hydriotes and Spetsiotes at sea. These people, like the Cheimarriotes, were known to be Albanian-speaking or BILINGUAL, yet they identified themselves wholly with the GREEK national cause." Banac, Ivo; Ackerman, John G.; Szporluk, Roman; Vucinich, Wayne S. (1981). Nation and ideology: essays in honor of Wayne S. Vucinich. East European Monographs. p. 46
@@Dukgjin "Ilias Mamalakis (born November 20, 1949, Athens) is a Greek COOK. (🤣) He studied Economics and worked for many years as a high-ranking executive in multinational companies. After several experiences, around the age of 40, he became involved IN GASTRONOMY.[2][3][4]." wiki/Ηλίας_Μαμαλάκης
@@Dukgjin Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, who in turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i included the link my comment gets deleted).
What? Marko Boçari spoke Greek for the first time in his life only when he was 20 years old? And the Greeks want him as their hero? Muahahahahah. Greeks, say EFXARISTO to the Albanians.
Sul Village in Korca Albania, Sul-iote hero of greek orthodoxism was Albanian by blood. But a greek lie is not comming from greeks themselfs, but from Bavarians germans who were nostalgic for ancient greeks!!!
What Greek heroes? Orthodox Albanians were fighting against muslim Albanians. That's the story. The byzantine orthodox church was (and still is) working against the interests of the Albanians, convincing the orthodox that they are something different (a.k.a. Greeks). And given they respect the priest of their church they go to kill their muslim brothers. The muslim Turkey was (and still is) working against Albanians. They are telling them that they are different (turks) and hence the bloodbath.
Marko Boçari was an orthodox Albanian. Ali Pasha was a muslim Albanian. There are no Greeks involved here. Greece begins only in Mesolongi. From there to the north is just orthodox Albanian (arvanite) and muslim Albanian (cham) land. The greeks know it. They are afraid to accept it. Otherwise the world would see the true lions who made the so called "greek" revolution were the albanian Boçari, Xhavella, Kollokotroni, Bubulina etc. I am Albanian orthodox too. And I say: glory to Albania.
Greeks, Arvanits, Albanias, Slavs....what's the diference? They all fought for the same reason. FREEDOM of the Balkan peninsula! There are many things that unite us rather than divide us! I'm a Greek because i feel it not because of my bloodline and i respect your feelings whatever they are. The Balkan peninsula is the most divided region of Europe. Why? Because some others whant it to be like this. I'm not talking about a united Balkan peninsula. I'm talking about respect betwin us!
@Jeffanos ...Hey buddy-boy!!...you couldn't have said it better in your own words. The Albanian speaking population, without using exclusive terminology such as; Arvanites, Alvanos, Turko-Alvanos etc, became subject of "devide and conquor" policies. There's no war which is worse than the one within the kind. At least, time has come for Greece to publicly admit the true origins of the Arvanites and their role in Greece's history.
Greece 1821 malaga you read some about Greeks living nowadays,not for Ancient Greeks, nowadays there are mix population Byzants Egyptian Turks Albanian Slavic Aromanian and some other minority’s
Marko mbotsari exi gonjia stin australia .! Kai afti eipane einaste ilireius albanikis katagogjis oxi elina diladi eine dlbanikis origina 100% kai elada giortazei giairoes albanikis katagogjis 100%
marko bocari is albanian the last name bocari is pure albanian name and very common to be Albanian.. if u ask any albanian what kind of ethnicity bocari sounds like they will say Albanian... Arvanite is Albanian thats what turks called them arnvut
Iliricum sacrum YOU ARE SO BRAINWASHED BY YOUR VLACH POLITICIANS WHO SAYING TO YOU THAT YOU ARE DIFFERENT RACE FROM GREEKS BY ORIGIN . SEARCH IT. I AM NOT TELLING YOU THESE TO BELIEVE ME. ALBANIA IS A SOURCE OF ANCIENT HELLENISM, EVEN YOUR LANGUAGE IS ANCIENT GREEK, DORIC BASED, ALL THE MONUMENTS THE FAMOUS ROMAN SPEECH "ALBANI GREQIORUM" MEAN "MOUNTAINOUS GREEKS " THATS THE TRUTH ALBANIANS WERE GREEKS AND YOU KNOW THE TRUTH THAT'S WHY YOU ARE USING THE WORD SHIPTAR INSTEAD OF ALBANIAN. I AM NOT TRYING TO OFFEND TODAYS ALBANIANS BUT THEY ARE NOT AS CLEAR IN BLOOD THAN THEY THOUGHT. NONE OF US IS 100% PURE RACE. BUT BOTH WE HAVE A COMMON THING: SAME MOTHERLAND HELLAS, WERE LIVED GREAT HELLENES, SONS OF PELASGUS.
Ilirjan Z ΤΙ ΛΕΣ ΡΕ ΔΙΑΒΑΖΕΙΣ ΑΥΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΣ ? ΔΕΝ ΣΥΓΓΕΝΕΥΟΥΝ ΤΑ ΝΕΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΜΕ ΤΑ ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ? ΞΕΣ ΠΟΣΑ ΚΟΙΝΑ ΕΧΟΥΝ ? ΚΑΤΑΡΧΑΣ ΠΟΛΛΑ ΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΕΧΟΥΝ ΤΗΝ ΙΔΙΑ ΣΗΜΑΣΙΑ ΤΟ ΙΔΙΟ ΤΑ ΕΠΙΡΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΣΥΝΔΕΣΜΟΙ. ΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΔΩΡΙΕΙΣ ΒΟΡΕΙΟΗΠΕΙΡΩΤΕΣ ΞΕΣ ΠΩΣ ΈΛΕΓΑΝ ΤΟ ΕΧΩ ? ΤΟ ΕΛΕΓΑΝ ΚΑ. ΣΤΗΝ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗ ΓΛΩΣΣΑ ΤΟ ΕΧΩ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΜ. ΣΤΗΝ ΑΤΤΙΚΗ ΔΙΆΛΕΚΤΟ Ο ΠΑΡΑΚΕΙΜΕΝΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΡΗΜΑΤΟΣ ΠΧ ΤΟΥ ΛΥΩ ΕΊΝΑΙ ΛΕΛΥ-ΚΑ (ΛΕΛΥ =ΛΥΣΕΙ) (ΚΑ =ΕΧΩ) ΔΗΛΑΔΗ ΛΕΛΥΚΑ =ΕΧΩ ΛΥΣΕΙ.
George Kundurioti...first Greek president, was of Arbanite origine... Let's talk about slavic toponymes changed by your authority! When Greece earned the indipendence by Ottomans were less than 2.000.000 inhabitants,diveded in Greeks,Arvanites,Vlachs,Slavs,Turks,Jews,Armenians
Una volta i greci e gli albanesi erano uniti tra loro tanti guerrieri albanesi hanno contribuito per l'indipendenza della Grecia dal impero ottomano tra loro era anche il Grande Marko Bocari
He was a Katholik and never orthodox. Most where assimilated from ☦️🇷🇺 influence. They took his folk as slaves and he started fighting under pressure. Most of his people did a alliance with Ali pasha Tepelenë. But however the Turks from the ottoman killed them after bloody fights. And he was fighting for 🇦🇱 independence 🙏 this 🇷🇺☦️ influence did just about 6 7 other ☦️ country’s around us. They try to assimilate us also but we never accepted in 🇲🇰🇽🇰 we lost so much because of this new ☦️ influence. So much Genozid against our people. New sources Shows also that the plan about 🇦🇱 was to split us between Greece and Yugoslavia. 2 ☦️ State. I mean we know how much people are also assimilated in Greece. Most of them forget they roots and believe. But it is not their problem. This aggressor ☦️ I think is the plan behind. It is a political meaning, not against the people. I will never understand why but a lot of pain and proudness make us live again and I hope we can get Çameria also back, it was not fair! Look at Serbia today, still trying to take over Kosovo. They still lie about the church’s. This where made by the Illyrian before with Illyrian-Arberor architecture but however they are quite and don’t show the archive because we all know it. Only because they change and assimilate some 🇦🇱The people protected them also in the ottomans time. We lost them just in Yugoslavia. Same church’s in Macedonia also. We want them Back! Macedonia today are telling the world that they are Alexander Illyrian tribe 😂😂 but they grandparents have Bulgaria 🇧🇬 Pass. They think we are stupid and change history. The problem is that 3/4 of Albania got no voice.they failed to assimilate us ! Even we die that accept this fake Slav identity. It was a plan from influence to destroy us and they also did but thx to good Albania exist today 🙏 Stop calling 🇦🇱 Turks! Real Europeans that don’t identify them with other culture or language! we write history on this ground for decades! It is not just yours!
@Jeffanos When they say they will serve Greece they meant Orthodoxy. There is e huuuge difference between what it means today Greece with it meant 200 years ago.
Πανος Παραπανος How did they ment they were greeks while the language they spoke wasnt greek? What defines the ethnicity of a person is the language he speaks. These people were living for centuries in what is today’s Greece, but they didnt speak greek. Yes, they were following the orthodox church, but russians too follow orthodox church, and so do romanians, bulgarians, serbs, montenegrins and many albanians. They all are christian orthodoxs, what distinguishes them, are the languanges they speak. A christian orthodox who speaks russian language, is russian. A christian orthodox who speaks romanian language is romanian. What you are suggesting here is that: a christian orthodox who speaks albanian language, is not albanian, but greek. Privatelt speaking: are you aware of the dimensions of the stupidity of this claim? I know you need to say what you say for the sake of your national narrative and interest, but I am asking you totally privately: arent you aware you are making the figure of idiots in front of the whole world? :)
Πανος Παραπανος Ottoman turks forcing ethnic greeks to become Albanians? You are just defying the whole greek scientific history who accepts the fact arvanites came from Albania invited by local landowners, as fighters and soldiers. You have another theory :) brand new one. Nice, nice :)
@Souliot 🇬🇷 Suliotët fought against ottoman empire. They fought, killed and got killed by ottomans. Being Ottomans, is not a nationality. It’s more a set of rules, tied by religion. So, suliotët fought against the rule of the ottomans. They fought not as greeks, but as suliotë, speaking Albanian, and protecting their albanian-speaking villages (which by the way, are all of Albanian names - Suli, Qafa, etc). So stop with this bullshit of suliots having any national conscience. They had not. Albanians as well had not national conscience. Back in 19 century, nobody in the Balkans had national conscience. In our area, those believing in islam wete called turks no matter what their nationality was (albanian, greek, bulgarian or whatever). Also, all those believing in christianism were called greeks, no matter what their nationality was (greek, albanian, aromanian or bulgarian). The same with suliots. They are considered greeks because their religion was orthodox, but their nation to which they belonged was Albanian, because albanian was the language they spoke. Language determines your nationality, not religion. Because there are also africans being orthodox- what, do you consider them greeks as well? :)
@KRONOSELLAS Also, latin letters doesnt mean "latin language". We are writing in latin alphabet now. But it is english. The same with the so-called greek language of Epirus.
I like this argument!Is any one able to opposite this thesis?!I don't think so! BASED OF TELLING OF MY ANCESTORS, ALL WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IN SCHOOL ABOUT GREEK WORLD,IT IS A FAKE, FALSE AND STOLEN HISTORY!
sir do not deceive people, Marko Bocari is from Suli. The inhabitants of Suli were expelled by the Greek army to Albania because they were Cham Albanians. The question arises; Marko Bocari's tribe were expelled from Greece because they were Albanians but Marko Bocari What was it ???? !! This is a rhetorical question. The revolution of 1821 was carried out by the Arvanites, at that time the Greeks did not exist.
bless you my friend i had an opinion wich you may agree...you may be albanian , greek whatever. but i dont agree with the identity that is given to us created in the birth of balkanic nationalism(19 century) that if you are albanian(greek) you must think this ..these are your heroes these are your arguments you look like this.i am proud of what i am and i am sure so are you but i feel that there is a general need to review these ideas..this doesnt in no way put your identity down on the oposite
@KRONOSELLAS I don't know what "Vuthroto" is. If you mean the ancient epirotan city of βoutpint - I repeat you that according to the PELASGIAN writer Homer, β is not pronounced as "v".
@KRONOSELLAS Greek letters doesnt mean greek language. Homers writes that the sheeps of Zeus were bleating doing: "βή - βή". What, does it means that the ancient sheeps bleated vi-vi?
only the Turko Arabs greeks can be proud to worship heroes of other nations as their own. this has become a tradition in greece to worship Albanians as heroes. just look how many statues we have for Albanian warriors all over greece. we greeks dont have normal heritage like Europeans, we greeks are same as arabs and jews
@KRONOSELLAS I say, In the European coins now, it is written the greek word "evro". What. Are the irish guys using it, greeks? Hellenes had colonies, ok. Even in Marseilles. But just that
I am saying that ancient hellenes had colonies in foreign lands, like Epirus. Read Strabo. Read Herodotus. They write about "Plakonia" who was the organization of Epirotes. Check translator about plak
Suli is Albanian, Marko Botqari is albanian, the land they fought on was Albanian and inhabited by albanians. How is this greek history? Only because they are orthdox you call them greek??? Hahaha......
all greek have to see this documentary again again again to understand what the poor GREEK author was trying to teach to the greeks SIMPLY THAT ARVANITE=ORTHODOX ALBANIAN....SULJOT=ALBANIAN.....TURKO-ALVANOS=MUSLIM ALBANIAN.....ALBANIANS ARE NOT AND ONLY MUSLIM BUT ALBANIANS ARE MUSLIMS,CATHOLICS,ORTHODOX too.....
@Greece 1821 let me tell you again because I can see perfectly your discomfort of my comment, WHY SHOULD SULJOTET BE FELT AS "GREEK "???? SO IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT "GREEKS "😉 SULJOTET FOUGHT AGAINST THE OTTOMANS AND NOT AGAINST ALBANIANS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME THING WITH ALBANIANS. ALBANIANS WHO FOUGHT FOR OTTOMANS WERE RECRUITED BY FORCE TO BE INTO THE ARMY 😉😉😉 And this is a huge difference 😉.......ORTHODOXY ISN'T A SIGN OF PATRIOTISM, oooooo poor ignorant person. .....if orthodoxy is a sign of patriotism HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE PATRIARCH IS STILL IN CONSTANTINOPLE? ??? AND THE PATRIARCH WAS SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE SULTAN SINCE 1453!!! 😉 FANARIOTES WERE THE BEST SERVANTS OF THE SULTANS AND THEY WERE ORTHODOX TOO 😉😉😉
@Greece 1821 let me repeat again what I told you earlier that you are A POOR IGNORANT who can't make the difference between religion, patriotism and ethnicity. Watch this video made in Russia, Moscow precisely. Here are muslims praying in front of the orthodox churches. Following your little brain Russia is a Muslim country by these pictures, right? !😉 th-cam.com/video/8S13-GoIERA/w-d-xo.html Let me repeat you again that arvanites are the owners of Greece because Greece took the independence by their courage and blood and not because of the Orthodox Patriarch who is STILL in Constantinople 😉
@Greece 1821 hahaha YOUR LITTLE BRAIN IS REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT THE FACT THAT I TOLD YOU THAT ARVANITES ARE THE REAL OWNERS OF GREECE THAT'S WHY MARKO BOÇARI, BUBULINA ,KARAISKAQI USED TO FIGHT FOR IT....not a single word about the video made in Moscow? 😂😉 Now. ....let me remind you that the concept of "Greece" of 199 years ago has nothing to do with the nowadays "Greece " simply because until the XX century the discussions in Parliament were made in Albanian because it was a normal thing and because Greek language was taught in school because it was not popular among arvanites 😉. Let me remind you again that your little brain feels confused to make the difference between religion, ethnicity and patriotism. You can't say a single word about the presence of PATRIARCH IN CONSTANDINOPLE 😉
@Greece 1821 Good Bless the Patriarch of the orthodox who ruled over the christians side by side with the sultans! You really think that you can play with me? Do you know that the revolution started by arvanites at the very begging it started by Ali Pashë Tepelena and after his death the arvanites who were serving to him continued the war further? You knew this?
@Greece 1821 now let me remind you again that your little brain can't understand big issues but I'll try again to explain to you that the Revolution started by Ali Pashë Tepelena and after his death the revolution was carried out by arvanites (suliots,precisely ). If you don't trust me then you read this article in Wikipedia on Marko Boçari. The author tried really hard to hide the fact that suliots are simply Albanians but it is impossible to cover up the sun of the truth by lying. In this article you can read how Marko served in the ALBANIAN regiment of the French army in Corfu and there this "greek " hero learned. ....I'm repeating again HE LEARNED GREEK LANGUAGE 😉 In the same article you can read that when Ali Pashë Tepelena started the war against the ottomans the suliots were on the same side with ottomans against Ali Pasha because suliots and Ali Pasha were very hostile towards each other. When suliots understood finally that the real intentions of Ali Pasha was a war for liberation they passed on the side of Ali Pasha against the ottomans 😉......I told you that your little brain isn't capable to understand such things. Your brain is so little that you think that being an orthodox is a sign of patriotism but you never asked yourself how is it possible that the Patriarch was side by side with the sultan even the Constantinople was occupied by ottomans in 1453!😉 Idiot, did you ever asked yourself why the war of the independence began by a non-religious muslim as Ali Pasha was? I'll answer it by myself : it happened because the Christians were under the brainwashing lies of the patriarch of Constantinople who used to keep saying to the christians "this life is to suffer, the real salvation will be into the next life ",so the logic was "be quite and let the ottomans ruling undisputed and don't bother them because you will be "saved" when you'll die "😉 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Botsaris
Marko Boçari die from freedom to this people he Was Albanian orthodox and he wanted freedom from the Ottoman rule ....if he was grekk why he write a book albanian -grekk translate from me the Turkey was and is the problem in Balcan if we dont hate each other we created a great future not just for ous and for the Balkan
Ancient "Greece" was pelasgian. Byzantinium was a half of a LATIN ROMAN empire. And todays greeks are a mixture of gypsies-turks and armenians who came from Asia Minor in lands of native Arvanites
Greece 1821 of course you are a bunch of ignorants and its a waste of time talking history with you. But yes, there are some Albanians who are muslims. But islam is just a religion. This doesnt mean they are arabs or turks. Religions come and go. In ancient times greeks used to be pagans, later one became christians and when christianity divided into eastern and western they became eastern christians. During all that time they kept being greeks. Is not the religion defining your ethnicity. In USA and even in Greece there are greeks who go to evangelical, protestant or catholic churches. This doesnt make them americans, british or italians. During ottoman invasion, some greeks, mostly in Athens and Crete but also elsewhere converted to islam. Just like some albanians did. This has nothing to do with their ethnicity. They kept speaking their native languages and kept their traditions. Religions are temporary. Ethnos is forever. In the future who knows, people will believe in some industrial technological god, or will cease believing at all. In Albania most of the people are already atheists. Thats why representatives of religions, including muslims are so angry and so eager to show their numbers. 10 thousand muslims in a square are nothing compared to the silent majority of MILLIONS of albanians indiferent to any religion. Thats the truth. You would like us to be arabs or turks. But we are not. Sorry. And according to arvanites, they were christian Albanians. Just that. They fought for a christian state along with other christians like greeks, vlachs etc. They didnt have any national or ethnic conscience. The concept of “greece” as it is today was born later. Of course this sounds totally ununderstandable to you. Probably you are just some euphoric teenager whith just tales and no ideas inside your brainwashed head.
@realpanatha13 this not true...he never said that greec is..but he was so hard because he thinkit like albanian.....greks are to slims..but they miss braveheart..i m sorry...
MARKO BOCARI WAS ALBANIAN OF TRIBE SULI,ali pashe tepelena destroyed their tribe he moved in Greece and gave his contribution to make Greek independent,PLEASE DON'T BE CYNICAL you should show more respect for albanians who gave contibution for you
@KRONOSELLAS No, I am saying that today greeks have nothing to do with ancient hellenes. So, I do not understand your zeal on showing how developed were the ancestors of another nation.
Marcos Botsaris was a brave Greek who fought bravely against all albanians of Ali pasa...Souliots were fighting against albanians...1821 was not a war between Greeks and turks..it was mainly between Greeks and albanians...albanians have always been our main enemy...turks were always peaceful and they used albanians to fight Greeks..so its albanians that we need to annihilate...turks never harmed Greeks...
You have to consider that at that time people even if they spoke the same language they didn't consider themselves the same people if the religion was different. Souliotes spoke Albanian dialect, and they accepted to be Greek as part of an orthodox culture. Nowadays the world has changed and religion has not the importance he had before!
@KRONOSELLAS And even if HELLENIC (attention, not greek) theatre was played in Butrint, so what. American movies are being played in Athens cinema's right now. It doesnt make Athens US.
WE GREEKS ARE ONLY PEOPLE OF EUROPE WHO IS BEING MISTAKEN AS ARABS. GREEKS AND ARABS LOOK THE SAME. SOMETIMES I AM FEELING ASHAMED TO BE GREEK AND I AM WORSHIPPING ALBANIANS AS HEROES
beeing ordotox dosent mean ur greek,its for laugh this theory.30%of population in Albania are christian-orthodox....25% christian-catholic,they are greek or italians??u greeks dont be decilous!
You are not Arvnites, because if you were Arvanite, you wouldn't say that what you said. On the other hand the Greece propaganda of history had done the job and cleaned you brain.
The Suliotes are Christian Albanians. - Even today Arvanite songs are in "Arvanitika" which is "Albanian" language. An Albanian person can perfectly understand Arvanitika songs. A greek person can not understand Arvanitika songs. ✌🇦🇱
@GREEK SOULI - Arvanites learned greek in school. They spoke "Arvanitika" which is "Albanian" language. Arvanites fought against the Ottomans. Yes, many Albanians were in the Ottoman army. th-cam.com/video/mw2XZmTB5W0/w-d-xo.html
@GREEK SOULI - Listen here you fuckhead: Arvanites fought and killed, and were killed by Ottoman soldiers. Arvanites NEVER killed Albanians. Arvanites are Albanians! Language is everything! It determines who a group of people are. The culture and identity of a people! The English people speak English. The French people speak French. The German people speak German. The Turkish people speak Turkish. So do not come here and write idiotic stuff!
sir do not deceive people, Marko Bocari is from Suli. The inhabitants of Suli were expelled by the Greek army to Albania because they were Cham Albanians. The question arises; Marko Bocari's tribe were expelled from Greece because they were Albanians but Marko Bocari What was it ???? !! This is a rhetorical question. The revolution of 1821 was carried out by the Arvanites, at that time the Greeks did not exist.
According to the narrator...Bocari began to learn Greek in the adult age......which it means, before he spoke only Albanian
Μιλούσε αρβανιτικα Αλβανε!
Εσείς οι Αλβανοί δεν υπήρχατε καν σαν έθνος, σαν κράτος...
So what? He made his choise and fought for Greece's freedom. And you should stay at this....and not if he spoke albanian as a child.
In that time they fight for religion. Albanian and Greek christians against otttoman turks and albanian muslims. After the war many albanians slowly got more and more Greek, example greeks claim the Albanian fustanella.
@@blueshadow5755 no, why should he stay at that? there are a many who say that he was no how Albanian, in any way. This is not correct. He is making a correction, rather than telling people what they should do
@@blueshadow5755 and you spelled choice wrong
υπηρχαν οντος αλβανοφωνοι ελληνες που βοηθησανε στην ελληνικη επανασταση και τους ευχαριστουμε πολυ ! Οι αλβανοι ειναι αδερφια μας .Ελληνες ειμαστε αχαριστοι ντρεπομαι για τα σχολια σας(οπως ντρεπομαι για τα σχολια ζηλιας και ανθελληνισμου των αλβανων )
Problemi esht qe shume greke nje perqindje e madhe nuk e kuptojn qe te vetmit me te perafert ne ballkan jan greket dhe shqiptaret.smund te jesh vella me sllavet si thojn shume greke.duhet te informohennte lexojn me shume jo ti fryj politika e keqe apo kosha ortodoxe greke.dihet shume mire qe shqiptaret ka qen faktori kryesor ne ballkan cdo histori fillon nga shqiptaret.shume deformim nder vite inkan bo historiae dhe origjines se shqiptareve por nuk ja kan arritur dhe as skan per ta arritur kurre.dihet kush esht gjuha shqipe dhe shqiptaret
Δεν ήταν Αλβανοφωνοι αλλά Αρβανιτοφωνοι!! Είναι τεράστια διαφορά!
Οι Αλβανοί δεν είναι Αδέρφια μας!!
Hi everyone! It is an interesting fact to see that the albanian muslims are usually called turkalvanos or albanianturks or just turks by many greeks in the commentaries. My question is, what do you (greeks) call the albanian catholics and albanian orthodox? Are they also turks according to you? Remember, there are more than 1 million albanian christians (catholic and orthodox) being proud of their albanian identity. By the way albanian people, whether muslim or christians, would feel very offended to be called turk since they actually suffered a lot from turks as well.
Could we (greeks and albanians) just make peace soon!!!!!!????? The arvanites are the best example for this peace. They spoke albanian but where integrated into greek identity. It means that many greeks have albanian blood. So, how can we be so rasist to each other when we maybe have so much in common? Yes, a lot of shit happened but most of it is exaggerated.
I AM half arvanite we are so closed to culture and race with illyrians not all nowdays albanians are illyrians there are also caucasians mixed with illyrians and abaars i think we are the most closest genetically races
illyrian Labi Whaaat? I mean ok a percent spoke albanian dialect. What kind of extreme nationalism is that?Turkish? We never assimilated to Turks like you did so we didn't spoke turkish.
DizzyGuard
Albanians are not assimilated to turks
we still speak our own language Albanian
so do the Arvanitët
they still speak our beautiful Albanian Language !
What about greeks
they say that they are greeks
but todays greek language is
Aromanian Byzantine Language
and it has nothing to do with old
Greek language !
new aromanian byzantine language
with old Greek language
is like Chinese with english
nowhere near
so stop eating shit with you fake info
@Πανος Παραπανος ur ancestors were albanians.
@@DizzyGuard If you are Arvanitas and you wana tell us you are Greek than you are Gipsy from Egypt,lfuck you and dont speak my Divine language the Lord language, Ried if you can : Lord Byron about the modern Greek language 1809. Byron wrote only the tru reality that he was seeing .Under the directives of his kingdom,Byron helped the Greek indenpedency. The number of Greek population was wery low when Byrom visited Balkans. In the entire Balkan peninsula only 300,000 Greeks could be found that time.The real and true name of these people was Gypsy from ancient Time.The people of Balkan peninsula were calling the people or imigrants who arrived from Egypt in the short form as Gypsy. They were Dark and some were Black. The imigrants spoke the broken latin. In ancient time the latin language was the language of Romans and universal language that all countries were using for bilateral relatiion.They wealthy in order to be diffrent from the poor and the others started to use the latin language.Their servants started also to learn this language but they spoke the broken Latin. This broken Latin language later was known as a Greek language, and with the modification of this language Today is known as a Modern Greek Language. So you can fel a piec of shit to but the tru it is Arvanitas , Arberesh , Albanians are the Descendants of Pelasgien Ilyrian and Gipsy Greeks have nothing to do because the DNA says evrything : The Albanian DNA Cavalli Sfroza : But if the Albanians are not Illyrians, who are they? The geneticist Cavalli Sforza 1997 carried out a study on the genetic data of European populations obtained by using the classifications of blood groups and the DNA markers relating to the Y chromosome. His conclusions, now universally accepted, have contributed decisively to reconstructing the historical and geographical evolution of the human gender. Well according to Cavalli Sforza the Albanians would be the most ancient people of Europe.
pershendetje per te gjith arvanitet qe sa do pak e kuptojne shqipen . kam deshir tju kujtoj qe grek nuk do beheni kurr se jeni gjak i paster shqiptar qe ju duhet te jeni shum krenar se ju e keni kriu greqin pra ju duhet ti mbani meritat tuja edhe pse greket mundohen tjua njollosin
Marko Bocari ka familje ne Australi dhe ata thane se ne jena Shqiptare. Pra M.Bocari ishte Shqiptare.
Markos Botsaris was a Greek hero participating to the Greek Revolution of 1821 against the Turks and albanians.
Πήγαινε να ανοίξεις σωστά βιβλία απο τις βιβλιοθήκες να ανοίξεις τα μάτια σου.. ααααα και που είσαι πέρνα μια βόλτα από το στρατιωτικό μουσείο του Παρισιού που έχει τα σπαθιά και τα όπλα του Μπότσαρη και διάβασε προσεκτικά τις επιγραφές εκεί πέρα και αν βρεις την Λέξη "grec" πάνω στις επιγραφές του θα περιμένω να με απαντήσεις , επειδή η αλήθεια πάντα πονάει και είναι προκλητική σου γράφω ότι ήταν Αρβανίτης , έμαθε Ελληνικά στην εφηβεία και έγραψε το γνωστό λεξικό της "Ρομαικοίς απλής και της Αρβανίτικης (Αλβανικής γλώσσας)" Τώρα πάρε ένα πέος ίσα μέχρι το σπαθί του Μπότσαρη και ξαναβάφτισε τον Έλληνα... αααα και που είσαι μην χρησιμοποιείς τον όρο Ελληνας ξανά , Ρωμιός υπήρχε πριν 100 χρόνια , η λέξη 'Ελληνας είχε ξεχαστεί για 2000 έτη κάτι που ξέθαψε ο Κοραής. Και μιας ο Μποτσαρης ήταν Σουλιώτης, ο Αραβαντινος υποστηριζει οτι οι Σουλιωτες «οι πλειστοι των εις το Σουλιον προκατοικησαντων υπηρχον Αλβανικης φυλης,καταγομενοι οι εκ της Γαρδικης κωμης της Παραμυθιας» ακόμα και ο Κοραής.αποδεχεται οτι οι Σουλιωτες αποτελουν εθνολογικο μιγμα,αλλα...«Εστω οτι οι Σουλιωται καταγονται απο τοιουτον μιγμα νικητων και νικηθεντων,μη,δια τουτο ηναι ολιγωτερον Ελληνες απο τους Κωνσταντινουπολιτας...» επίσης σου συνιστώ να αρχίσεις να ψάξεις για τα Πελάσγικα θα πάθεις ζημιά όταν καταλάβεις ότι εκείνη αρχαία Γλώσσα που αναφερόταν ο Όμηρος μεταφράζετε μόνον εις την Αλβανική Γλώσσα και όχι στην Αρχαία Ελληνική , γιατί μόνον στην Αλβανική βγαίνει νόημα. Τώρα όσο ανιστόρητος είσαι τόσο γελοίος καταντάς εδώ μέσα , και μην πετάς προπαγάνδες χωρίς να διαβάζεις όλη την Ιστορία των Βαλκανίων και όχι μόνον
Επίσης συνεχίζω ο Κοραής σε επιστολη του προς την Σουλιώτικη Γερουσία των Δώδεκα(Πλεκεσια) συμβουλεύει «...να φερετε εις την πατριδα σας κανενα δασκαλον να διδασκει τα φιλτατα τεκνα σας την Ελληνικην γλωσσαν...».
Ο Παπαρρηγοπουλος τους θεωρει ιδανικο Ελληνοαλβανικο μιγμα και ο Κορδατος δεν τους θεωρει ουτε Ελληνες ουτε αξιους ιστορικης μνημονευσης,αλλα ληστοσυμμοριτες. Οπότε για να στα κανω πιο απλα στο στο κλεισμενο τυφλο φανατικο εθνικιστικο μυαλο σου που τα βλεπεις ολα Ελληνικα , Ανθρωποι και ηρωες της Ελληνικης Ιστοριας όπως ο Κοραής ο μεγάλος στοχαστής τής ελληνικής γλώσσας όπως επίσης ο Παπαρηγόπουλος ο πατέρας της σύγχρονης Ελληνικής Ιστορίας μιλάει για τους Αρβανίτες (Σουλιώτες) και άλλες φάρες ότι είναι Αλβανοί ... ¨οσο και να θες να πετάξεις την προπαγάνδα σου. Ηρωες Ελληνες της Ελληνικης ιστορίας τα εχουν γραψει αυτα και φανερωνουν την Αληθεια που αργοτερα ο Μεταξας βαφτισε ολες τις μοινοτητες Ελληνες... στο καλο τωρα και να ανοιγεις βιβλια
Souliotis ΣΟΥΛΙΩΤΗΣ το επίπεδο νοημοσύνης σου από το δημοτικό σε προδίδει αγαπητέ φαντασμένε φίλε του δημοτικού, γιατί με την μικρή σου πρότασουλα που έγραψες "δηθεν" να μου την πεις (ΕΥΓΕ) καρφώθηκες από μόνος σου το πόσο αμαθείς , ανιστόρητος , ξερόλας , προπαγανδιστής , παρλαπίπας είσαι πίσω από το πληκτρολόγιο... θα σου απαντήσω φυσικά στο σχόλιο σου διότι το πλάσαρες... στην Αθήνα υπάρχει μια περιοχή που ονομάζεται "Βύρωνας" (για να δεις τώρα που θα το πάω) , ονομάστηκε έτσι σαν τιμή φόρου εις τον Εθνικό Ήρωα της Ελλάδος "Λόρδος Βύρων" ... και έρχομαι λοιπόν και σε ερωτώ .... Έχεις διαβάσει τίποτα από όσα έγραψε αυτός ο Άνθρωπος εκείνη την εποχή ;;; η απάντηση φυσικά είναι όχι... διότι αν θα είχες διαβάσει δεν θα έγραφες "τράβα διάβασε κάνα ξένο βιβλίο" , επίσης μιας και αρχίσαμε αυτή την συζήτηση , τον Dr. jur. Johann Georg von Hahn τον γνωρίζεις ;;; ρίξε τον μια ματιά , τον Paolo Paruta τον γνωρίζεις ;;; ρίξε επίσης μια ματιά και εκεί ... Τον Dominic John Corrigan ;;; ρίξε μια ματιά και σε αυτόν , αααα και να διαβάσεις και το βιβλίο της Edith Durham "Burden of the Balkans" θες να σου γράψω όλα τα βιβλία να πεταχτείς μια βόλτα σε καμία βιβλιοθήκη της πόλης σου να μάθεις ανεξάρτητη πραγματική ιστορία ή προτιμάς αυτή του δημοτικού ;;;; αααααα που είσαι... εντάξει σου έβαλα δύσκολα ομολογώ.... θα σε πω κάτι πιο εύκολο... πήγαινε άνοιξε Ηρόδοτο και Όμηρο σου έχουν δώσει αυτοί απαντήσεις για να μην απορείς... επίσης και τον βυζαντινό ιστορικό Μιχαήλ Ατταλειάτη. Άντε αγόρι μου που θα με πεις και Αλβανιάρη και τουρκόσπορο :) πλάκα έχεις. τι ειρωνεία όμως εε ;; αποκαλείς κάποιον Αλβανιάρη όταν οι ρίζες σου είναι από εκεί ρε Αλβανέ :P αααααα και για να μην απορείς ... με Φινλανδικό διαβατήριο και χρόνια στο εξωτερικό χωρίς καν να με γνωρίζεις ποιος είμαι και με αποκαλείς Αλβανιάρη είναι πραγματικά ειρωνία για έναν που έχει ρίζες απο εκεί και απλά έτυχε να γεννήθηκε σε χώμα που λέγεται Ελλάς ... εεε ρε τι πλάκα έχεις... ααααα και κάτι τελευταίο.. θες να βάλουμε φωτογραφίες τις μούρες μας στο εξωτερικό να δεις ποιον θα αποκαλέσει τουρκοσπορο ο κοσμάκης εδώ στην Β. Ευρωπη ;;; :P Αντε βόλτα τώρα στην βιβλιοθήκη και άσε την πάρλα εδώ μέσα
Against Albanians? WTF, MArko Botsaris was albanian as well, Arvanites. Even Ali Pasha Tepelena helped greek revolution against turks. Marko Boçaro wrote the first dictionary in Greek-Albanian language! Shame on stupid racist.
AlGangsta Vlore
Arvanites were proud Greeks who participated to the Greek war of indepence against the Ottomans Turks and albanians , Arvanites hated the albanians considered them as Turkish sperm and enemies of the Greek nation
"We remark that the term "Albanian" is not an ethnic qualification but, as the terms "Zouave" and "Dragon", is used as GENERIC to certain corps of infantry, formations of mercenaries recruited among Christians of Turkey. The Albanian Regiments were used also by the Italians and the French".
Bode, Andreas (1975). «Albaner und Griechen als Kolonisten in Neurussland"», Beitrage zur Kenntnis Sudosteuropas und des Nahen Orients, Munchen, vol. 16 (1975), pp. 29-35
PELASGIANS - ILLYRIANS - ALBANIANS
Markos Botsaris Greek,
albanians turks arabs
Te qifsha motren ty edhe serbis . Viva çameria e arvanit
Prove it
@GREEK SOULI Te gjeta te qifsha çobanken e Derviçanit 😅😅😅😅😅💪🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇬🇷👙🐏🐏🐏🐏🤣🤣🙊🍑👙
@Souliotis Pushti oxi grafis Antipatrea tora PASHA
@GREEK SOULI Suliot RIP 🙏🏼😪😪😪🙈😅😅
"The ethnonym "Albanian", where it is found in medieval sources, has one of the following meanings: a) Someone who speaks Albanian, b) someone from the geographical area of Albania, REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN, and c) a man of the mountains and the countryside".
Schmitt Jens Oliver (2009), Skanderbeg: Der neue Alexander auf dem Balkan, pp. 353, 354
"In 1790 in their letter to Catherine the Great written in an archaic Greek language, the Souliotes expressed their desire for help in the war against the centuries-old enemy of the faith 'for the redemption of the descendants of the Athenians and the Lacedemonians'. In fact they declared their plan for a great and widespread revolt, which would gather 300,000 Greeks, who would unite with the Russians and march against Constantinople."
Anargyros Fagkridas, pp. 53 "Souli" Gkovosti Publications
Our Albanian hero❤🇦🇱
"Greek " he considered himself Greek and and he fought for greece. So Greek
@@m.kais3r Why he learned the Greek language so late when he was a Greek ? Hahahahahha
Markos Botsaris the worst nightmare of the Turkalbanians.
Always albanians vs albanians because the greeks have no heart to fight
Thank you god for making me Albanian!
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS th-cam.com/video/b8QCGkja-QE/w-d-xo.html
Babi kacifes duke i rènè SAXOFONit😅😅😅
@PavlosDionysus he didnt die for greece, he was pure albanian and he was living in the native albanian part wich in his time was in ''greek borders'' and of course this innocent albanian(arvanitas) guy thought that in order to protect his albanian house h ehas to protect greece cuz that part of ancient albania belonged to greece in markos time, and in marco bocari's story u can see how the ALBANIAN KILT was adopted by greeks!
Greece 1821 none is stoping u to love him, but if you say you love him then show respect for who he truly was!
@@uneti463 I am a very proud arvanite arberes ,my ancestors fought for Suli not for what Greece represents today!my grand grandfather spoke his mother tounge language, the same language that George Castriota Scenderbeg spoke!That language that is God's language, is called Arvanitica,Arbereoj language!
"Included under the GENERIC name of Arnauts, it was recruited from Roumeliote Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians and Servians, who acted as body-guards to the princes, the great functionaries, and even the simple Boyards."
Gordon Thomas, History of the Greek revolution, 1844, London & Edinburgh, 2nd edition, volume 1, page 95.
@giordanwhite
Markos Botsaris , c.1788-1823, Greek patriot. Exiled from his native Epirus in 1803, he joined Ali Pasha in 1820 and later was prominent in the Greek …
ENCYCLOPEDIA COLUMBIA.....
Ahahahhha u guys are ridiculous... i swear to god you all are brainwashed ... ptuuu te qifsha ropt.!
@Greece 1821 if you ask greeks even black afraicans are greek ..even chinese are greekk... turkish coffee nooooo is greek coffeeeee. Ahahahhahahahaha where does greece produce coffee man ahahahhahaah
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Markos mbotsaris end soulis is origins ilirians albanians no greeks greeks is origins afrikans egyptions persians
Marco Bocaris was Albanian and only Albanian. This man says it self. 😂😂😂🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@pelasgian3 Arvanites are a big part of our history this doesn't mean that is also a part of Albanian...They separate themshelfes when they gave oaths in Filiki Etereia (the secret Greek organisation that planed the rebelion) that they will serve their country Greece and their religion Greek Orthodox Christianity...
Yes they are Albanian ethnically but accepted to be part of greek people
😄 🤣 You are telling me that my blood lines roots can become water just by attending in a secret meeting???!!! Haha.I can chose to be a Greek citizen but I can't change my nationality!My Nationality is given to me by God and I can't change it!My Citizenship is given to my by the government, and I can decide to give up from one Citizenship to get another citizenship based on my personal interest!My nationality is my language, my culture, my tradition, my blood lines,my roots!How can I change my nationality ????
@@yllirbochari9686greeks dont understand this because everyone can get greek over night when he accept the faith 😂😂
3:51Marko Bocari only spoke Albanian.
He learned to speak greek because he wanted to understand what TurkoGreek Armatolos say when they fight against him.
@Souliotis Te gjeta kurva e Derviçanit 😅😅😅😅💪💪🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@Souliotis Ku je çoban gypsy 😅🙈🙈🙈 PASHA is STRONG asfalia 😅😅😅
😅🙈🙈😅🙈💪🇦🇱
PUSHTI 💪🇦🇱🇦🇱8️⃣ coment 🇬🇷👙1️⃣ coment
@Souliotis 💪🇦🇱🇦🇱🙈🙈🇬🇷👙👙👙
My Goodness the comments and some nicknames are so pathetic
Its a Fact that Marco Mpotsari fought for the freedom of Greece not Albania
@grterx 7381 Τσάμης εθνικιστης; καθόλου περίεργο τοτε μακαρι να ευθυνεται μονο αυτος γιατι οτι διάβασα ηταν πραγματικά θλιβερό
Btw grterx εχουμε ξαναμιλίσει ηθελα να σε ρωτήσω πως και ασχολείσαι τοσο με την καταγωγή μας εισαι Αρβανίτης η Αλβανός;
@grterx 7381 Κατάλαβα εμενα μου ειπαν για τις παλιές ριζες μας η οικογένεια μου ξέρουμε απλα δεν θέλουμε καμία σχεση με την Αλβανια η τους σημερινούς Αλβανους ειμαστε Ελληνες
Aikaterini Liakou
o te qift Greqi ropt ty
mu ku i ke !
Back then it did not matter
the only thing that mattered was to beat the ottoman turks !
since you fake Byzantine greeks wer not able to beat the ottoman turks
the Albanians beat the turks and gave greece
independence !
But you are ignorant enough to not know the real history !
Greeks were Vasals of Ottoman turks
@@aikaterinikatsakiori3907 den katalava ti thelis na pis katerina diladi eisete albanikis katagogjis omos den thelete na epikinoniste me tin katagogji sas endaksei omos pios eine o logos borite na mu eksegjiste giati eine ligaki paraxeno den periazei omos giati apla
Marko mbotcaris end soulis is origins ilirians albanians no greeks greeks is origins afrikians egyptians
I AM PROUD TURKOGREEK MIDGET AND I LOVE TO WORSHIP ALBANIANS LIKE MARKO BOCARI AS HERO !
@KRONOSELLAS Do you know that in 2000 years archaeologists will dig Athens and will discover there a MCDonalds fast food, will decide that english was the native language there?
SOULIOTES🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Great Albanian forever 🇦🇱
Albanian turko lovers
Markos Botsaris killed by turkalbanians soldiers of Mustafa pasha of Skondra......yours miserable history want to steal our Heros
KYRIAKOS ZEIBEKIS
you dont have history
you are Byzantine Aromanian from Istanbull
Kico Bocari
Marko Bocari
Foto Xhavella
and many more were Albanians
Free South Epirus
from Byzantine Aromanian Gypsies
that Prosecuted Arvanitët for speaking
their own Native Albanian Language !
Greece 1821
Byzantine Malaka
todays Byzantine language has nothing to do woth old greece language !
you are fake byzantine gypsy with fake fabricated history !
Byzantine never had HEROES
Byzantines always steal history and HEROES
LIARS and thiefs
Greece 1821
ik ore bythqirë !
Ke shit bythen per 400 euro
tek Janullatos Bythqiri !
Do ju pushkatojm si at bythqirin Zagarin
KACIFA !!! vdekje Byzantinve MAXHUP
Greece 1821
un do t'jap 600 euro
dhe me jep gjith gjirin familiar ti
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@@tonyalb3863 tony turkalban....1821 Greeks against Turkalbanians...fae skata
"Their contribution in that conflict, although less well known, can be compared to those of the Souliotes on land and the Hydriotes and Spetsiotes at sea. These people, like the Cheimarriotes, were known to be Albanian-speaking or BILINGUAL, yet they identified themselves wholly with the GREEK national cause."
Banac, Ivo; Ackerman, John G.; Szporluk, Roman; Vucinich, Wayne S. (1981). Nation and ideology: essays in honor of Wayne S. Vucinich. East European Monographs. p. 46
Why Marko learned the Greek language so late when he was Greek ? Hahahahah
@@Dukgjin Source?
@@vandare6913 Minute 3:51. Didn’t you watch the video ?
@@Dukgjin "Ilias Mamalakis (born November 20, 1949, Athens) is a Greek COOK. (🤣)
He studied Economics and worked for many years as a high-ranking executive in multinational companies. After several experiences, around the age of 40, he became involved IN GASTRONOMY.[2][3][4]."
wiki/Ηλίας_Μαμαλάκης
@@Dukgjin Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, who in turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i included the link my comment gets deleted).
"The Suliotes are villainous Romans & speak little Illyric".
(Source: Lord Byron to John Hobhouse, Nov. 2, 1811, p. 55)
Ilyric Albanian*
Yea, Byron here basically says that the Souliotes were Greeks and spoke little albanian...
@@vandare6913 the Sulis learned Greek because of the religion, Greek was not they’re mother language.
What? Marko Boçari spoke Greek for the first time in his life only when he was 20 years old? And the Greeks want him as their hero? Muahahahahah.
Greeks, say EFXARISTO to the Albanians.
Sul Village in Korca Albania, Sul-iote hero of greek orthodoxism was Albanian by blood. But a greek lie is not comming from greeks themselfs, but from Bavarians germans who were nostalgic for ancient greeks!!!
What Greek heroes? Orthodox Albanians were fighting against muslim Albanians. That's the story. The byzantine orthodox church was (and still is) working against the interests of the Albanians, convincing the orthodox that they are something different (a.k.a. Greeks). And given they respect the priest of their church they go to kill their muslim brothers. The muslim Turkey was (and still is) working against Albanians. They are telling them that they are different (turks) and hence the bloodbath.
And the Greeks? Where were they ? 😂😂😂😂😂 u guys are funny af
Marko Boçari was an orthodox Albanian. Ali Pasha was a muslim Albanian. There are no Greeks involved here. Greece begins only in Mesolongi. From there to the north is just orthodox Albanian (arvanite) and muslim Albanian (cham) land. The greeks know it. They are afraid to accept it. Otherwise the world would see the true lions who made the so called "greek" revolution were the albanian Boçari, Xhavella, Kollokotroni, Bubulina etc. I am Albanian orthodox too. And I say: glory to Albania.
Greeks, Arvanits, Albanias, Slavs....what's the diference? They all fought for the same reason. FREEDOM of the Balkan peninsula! There are many things that unite us rather than divide us! I'm a Greek because i feel it not because of my bloodline and i respect your feelings whatever they are. The Balkan peninsula is the most divided region of Europe. Why? Because some others whant it to be like this. I'm not talking about a united Balkan peninsula. I'm talking about respect betwin us!
maybe everyone had your mentality, but in the Balkans people can't live without hating each other
@Jeffanos ...Hey buddy-boy!!...you couldn't have said it better in your own words. The Albanian speaking population, without using exclusive terminology such as; Arvanites, Alvanos, Turko-Alvanos etc, became subject of "devide and conquor" policies. There's no war which is worse than the one within the kind. At least, time has come for Greece to publicly admit the true origins of the Arvanites and their role in Greece's history.
I am pure Arvanite Arberes Albanian blood made!
Sa bukur kam qene ketu te keshtjella.
Nowadays Greks are slavoegyptoasia mix Jakob Fallmerayer
Greece 1821 malaga you read some about Greeks living nowadays,not for Ancient Greeks, nowadays there are mix population Byzants Egyptian Turks Albanian Slavic Aromanian and some other minority’s
MARKO BOCARI THE GREAT ALBANIAN.....
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS th-cam.com/video/b8QCGkja-QE/w-d-xo.html
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS Te gjeta çobani Derviçanit😅😅
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS AristidhKola🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🙏🏼
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS Ku je te qifsha gruan dhe motren dhe baban e kacifes😅
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS Te qifsha çobaken e rumanis😅
@giordanwhite MARKOS BOTSARIS THE GREAT GREEK!
Piriforos marko mbotcaris is origins ilirians albanians no greeks greeks is origins afrikanians egyptians
@@greatalexander404 you are stupid
Yes I'm Albanian he is the Albanian hero of Greece
@@settagashista142 albanians never were heroes
Marko mbotsari exi gonjia stin australia .! Kai afti eipane einaste ilireius albanikis katagogjis oxi elina diladi eine dlbanikis origina 100% kai elada giortazei giairoes albanikis katagogjis 100%
marko bocari is albanian the last name bocari is pure albanian name and very common to be Albanian.. if u ask any albanian what kind of ethnicity bocari sounds like they will say Albanian... Arvanite is Albanian thats what turks called them arnvut
Germans used the same arguments when they tried to purport the Kaszuby as Germans and not Poles
Marko Botsari 100% albanian
Albania do not exisy at this time 😂😂😂
thank you for letting me knouw that we are snouwmen and not Albanian ... ahahahaahhahhah..... your history ? did you learn in the garaz or where ?
Iliricum sacrum YOU ARE SO BRAINWASHED BY YOUR VLACH POLITICIANS WHO SAYING TO YOU THAT YOU ARE DIFFERENT RACE FROM GREEKS BY ORIGIN . SEARCH IT. I AM NOT TELLING YOU THESE TO BELIEVE ME. ALBANIA IS A SOURCE OF ANCIENT HELLENISM, EVEN YOUR LANGUAGE IS ANCIENT GREEK, DORIC BASED, ALL THE MONUMENTS THE FAMOUS ROMAN SPEECH "ALBANI GREQIORUM" MEAN "MOUNTAINOUS GREEKS " THATS THE TRUTH ALBANIANS WERE GREEKS AND YOU KNOW THE TRUTH THAT'S WHY YOU ARE USING THE WORD SHIPTAR INSTEAD OF ALBANIAN. I AM NOT TRYING TO OFFEND TODAYS ALBANIANS BUT THEY ARE NOT AS CLEAR IN BLOOD THAN THEY THOUGHT. NONE OF US IS 100% PURE RACE. BUT BOTH WE HAVE A COMMON THING: SAME MOTHERLAND HELLAS, WERE LIVED GREAT HELLENES, SONS OF PELASGUS.
Ilirjan Z Η ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ΧΩΡΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ Η ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΑ ΜΗΤΕΡΑ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΠΟΥ ΓΕΝΝΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΟΠΟΥΛΑ
Ilirjan Z ΤΙ ΛΕΣ ΡΕ ΔΙΑΒΑΖΕΙΣ ΑΥΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΣ ? ΔΕΝ ΣΥΓΓΕΝΕΥΟΥΝ ΤΑ ΝΕΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΜΕ ΤΑ ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ? ΞΕΣ ΠΟΣΑ ΚΟΙΝΑ ΕΧΟΥΝ ? ΚΑΤΑΡΧΑΣ ΠΟΛΛΑ ΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΕΧΟΥΝ ΤΗΝ ΙΔΙΑ ΣΗΜΑΣΙΑ ΤΟ ΙΔΙΟ ΤΑ ΕΠΙΡΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΣΥΝΔΕΣΜΟΙ. ΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΔΩΡΙΕΙΣ ΒΟΡΕΙΟΗΠΕΙΡΩΤΕΣ ΞΕΣ ΠΩΣ ΈΛΕΓΑΝ ΤΟ ΕΧΩ ? ΤΟ ΕΛΕΓΑΝ ΚΑ. ΣΤΗΝ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗ ΓΛΩΣΣΑ ΤΟ ΕΧΩ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΜ. ΣΤΗΝ ΑΤΤΙΚΗ ΔΙΆΛΕΚΤΟ Ο ΠΑΡΑΚΕΙΜΕΝΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΡΗΜΑΤΟΣ ΠΧ ΤΟΥ ΛΥΩ ΕΊΝΑΙ ΛΕΛΥ-ΚΑ (ΛΕΛΥ =ΛΥΣΕΙ) (ΚΑ =ΕΧΩ) ΔΗΛΑΔΗ ΛΕΛΥΚΑ =ΕΧΩ ΛΥΣΕΙ.
George Kundurioti...first Greek president, was of Arbanite origine...
Let's talk about slavic toponymes changed by your authority!
When Greece earned the indipendence by Ottomans were less than 2.000.000 inhabitants,diveded in Greeks,Arvanites,Vlachs,Slavs,Turks,Jews,Armenians
Eisai logikos file m ... ela na se kairasoume kamia raki :P
Una volta i greci e gli albanesi erano uniti tra loro tanti guerrieri albanesi hanno contribuito per l'indipendenza della Grecia dal impero ottomano tra loro era anche il Grande Marko Bocari
No no hanno conbatuto solo gli albanesi per li'ndipendeza greka, tutti gli eroi nazionali greci sono Aobanesi 😂 ma loro li considerano greci😂😂😂😂
Non lo dovevano fare .. dopo abbiamo avuto le conseguenze
He was a Katholik and never orthodox. Most where assimilated from ☦️🇷🇺 influence. They took his folk as slaves and he started fighting under pressure. Most of his people did a alliance with Ali pasha Tepelenë. But however the Turks from the ottoman killed them after bloody fights.
And he was fighting for 🇦🇱 independence 🙏 this 🇷🇺☦️ influence did just about 6 7 other ☦️ country’s around us. They try to assimilate us also but we never accepted in 🇲🇰🇽🇰 we lost so much because of this new ☦️ influence. So much Genozid against our people. New sources Shows also that the plan about 🇦🇱 was to split us between Greece and Yugoslavia. 2 ☦️ State.
I mean we know how much people are also assimilated in Greece.
Most of them forget they roots and believe. But it is not their problem. This aggressor ☦️ I think is the plan behind. It is a political meaning, not against the people.
I will never understand why but a lot of pain and proudness make us live again and I hope we can get Çameria also back, it was not fair!
Look at Serbia today, still trying to take over Kosovo. They still lie about the church’s. This where made by the Illyrian before with Illyrian-Arberor architecture but however they are quite and don’t show the archive because we all know it. Only because they change and assimilate some 🇦🇱The people protected them also in the ottomans time. We lost them just in Yugoslavia. Same church’s in Macedonia also. We want them Back! Macedonia today are telling the world that they are Alexander Illyrian tribe 😂😂 but they grandparents have Bulgaria 🇧🇬 Pass. They think we are stupid and change history. The problem is that 3/4 of Albania got no voice.they failed to assimilate us ! Even we die that accept this fake Slav identity. It was a plan from influence to destroy us and they also did but thx to good Albania exist today 🙏
Stop calling 🇦🇱 Turks! Real Europeans that don’t identify them with other culture or language! we write history on this ground for decades! It is not just yours!
Pershendetje
@Jeffanos When they say they will serve Greece they meant Orthodoxy. There is e huuuge difference between what it means today Greece with it meant 200 years ago.
Πανος Παραπανος How did they ment they were greeks while the language they spoke wasnt greek? What defines the ethnicity of a person is the language he speaks. These people were living for centuries in what is today’s Greece, but they didnt speak greek. Yes, they were following the orthodox church, but russians too follow orthodox church, and so do romanians, bulgarians, serbs, montenegrins and many albanians. They all are christian orthodoxs, what distinguishes them, are the languanges they speak. A christian orthodox who speaks russian language, is russian. A christian orthodox who speaks romanian language is romanian. What you are suggesting here is that: a christian orthodox who speaks albanian language, is not albanian, but greek. Privatelt speaking: are you aware of the dimensions of the stupidity of this claim? I know you need to say what you say for the sake of your national narrative and interest, but I am asking you totally privately: arent you aware you are making the figure of idiots in front of the whole world? :)
Πανος Παραπανος Ottoman turks forcing ethnic greeks to become Albanians? You are just defying the whole greek scientific history who accepts the fact arvanites came from Albania invited by local landowners, as fighters and soldiers. You have another theory :) brand new one. Nice, nice :)
@Souliot 🇬🇷 Suliotët fought against ottoman empire. They fought, killed and got killed by ottomans. Being Ottomans, is not a nationality. It’s more a set of rules, tied by religion. So, suliotët fought against the rule of the ottomans. They fought not as greeks, but as suliotë, speaking Albanian, and protecting their albanian-speaking villages (which by the way, are all of Albanian names - Suli, Qafa, etc). So stop with this bullshit of suliots having any national conscience. They had not. Albanians as well had not national conscience. Back in 19 century, nobody in the Balkans had national conscience. In our area, those believing in islam wete called turks no matter what their nationality was (albanian, greek, bulgarian or whatever). Also, all those believing in christianism were called greeks, no matter what their nationality was (greek, albanian, aromanian or bulgarian). The same with suliots. They are considered greeks because their religion was orthodox, but their nation to which they belonged was Albanian, because albanian was the language they spoke. Language determines your nationality, not religion. Because there are also africans being orthodox- what, do you consider them greeks as well? :)
@Souliot 🇬🇷 Tè qifsha çupèn kur bèn dhe ti propagand o çobani Korçes yshhhht motèr qirè o gypsy egjypti
@@MilingonaProject Mos e lodh trurin me kete cobanin nga Korca eshte nji motèr qirè eshte vari karin 😅
Arvanitas 🇦🇱 brother
Albania didn't exist back then...
Who gives you a bowl of soup tonite?
@KRONOSELLAS Also, latin letters doesnt mean "latin language". We are writing in latin alphabet now. But it is english. The same with the so-called greek language of Epirus.
I like this argument!Is any one able to opposite this thesis?!I don't think so! BASED OF TELLING OF MY ANCESTORS, ALL WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IN SCHOOL ABOUT GREEK WORLD,IT IS A FAKE, FALSE AND STOLEN HISTORY!
sir do not deceive people, Marko Bocari is from Suli. The inhabitants of Suli were expelled by the Greek army to Albania because they were Cham Albanians. The question arises; Marko Bocari's tribe were expelled from Greece because they were Albanians but Marko Bocari What was it ???? !! This is a rhetorical question. The revolution of 1821 was carried out by the Arvanites, at that time the Greeks did not exist.
bless you my friend i had an opinion wich you may agree...you may be albanian , greek whatever. but i dont agree with the identity that is given to us created in the birth of balkanic nationalism(19 century) that if you are albanian(greek) you must think this ..these are your heroes these are your arguments you look like this.i am proud of what i am and i am sure so are you but i feel that there is a general need to review these ideas..this doesnt in no way put your identity down on the oposite
@KRONOSELLAS I don't know what "Vuthroto" is. If you mean the ancient epirotan city of βoutpint - I repeat you that according to the PELASGIAN writer Homer, β is not pronounced as "v".
@KRONOSELLAS Greek letters doesnt mean greek language. Homers writes that the sheeps of Zeus were bleating doing: "βή - βή". What, does it means that the ancient sheeps bleated vi-vi?
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First of all make a test DNA.
Then, only then,.. You can talk😁 mr Shqipetar
only the Turko Arabs greeks can be proud to worship heroes of other nations as their own. this has become a tradition in greece to worship Albanians as heroes. just look how many statues we have for Albanian warriors all over greece.
we greeks dont have normal heritage like Europeans, we greeks are same as arabs and jews
you are not Greek 😂
@KRONOSELLAS I say, In the European coins now, it is written the greek word "evro". What. Are the irish guys using it, greeks? Hellenes had colonies, ok. Even in Marseilles. But just that
Albainan language those days was common for almost all slaved nations.Its like ancient Greek and Roman of their eras
Albania i love you is the best...
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS th-cam.com/video/b8QCGkja-QE/w-d-xo.html
Babi kacifes duke i rènè SAXOFONit😅
I am saying that ancient hellenes had colonies in foreign lands, like Epirus. Read Strabo. Read Herodotus. They write about "Plakonia" who was the organization of Epirotes. Check translator about plak
why do albanian muslims be called turko-albanians and the orthodoks albanians just greeks.
why not greek-albanian
It was easier for them to divide and discriminate the albanians
Suli is Albanian, Marko Botqari is albanian, the land they fought on was Albanian and inhabited by albanians. How is this greek history?
Only because they are orthdox you call them greek??? Hahaha......
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS th-cam.com/video/b8QCGkja-QE/w-d-xo.html
Babi kacifes duke i rènè SAXOFONit😅
@Souliotis Alket Rizai Fabio Dushku drink frape gamaj Elines 🥤🥤🥒👙🇬🇷👙🙈😅 Paliokosta slip in ⚰⚰🙈😅🙈😅😅😅
@GREEK SOULI Suli RIP 🙏🏼😪😅🙈🙈😅🙈🙈🙈💪🇦🇱🔪⚰👙🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@GREEK SOULI Suli oxi RIP 🙈🙈 Suli grafi Antipatrea ise asfalia 🙈🙈🙈😅🙈🙈🙈💪🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@Souliot SULO oxi RIP Sulo grafi Sabiha Ali Muhamet 😅🙈🙈🙈
@realpanatha13 so did luan shabani (leonidas), jorgo xhelili etc etc etc
all greek have to see this documentary again again again to understand what the poor GREEK author was trying to teach to the greeks SIMPLY THAT ARVANITE=ORTHODOX ALBANIAN....SULJOT=ALBANIAN.....TURKO-ALVANOS=MUSLIM ALBANIAN.....ALBANIANS ARE NOT AND ONLY MUSLIM BUT ALBANIANS ARE MUSLIMS,CATHOLICS,ORTHODOX too.....
@Greece 1821 let me tell you again because I can see perfectly your discomfort of my comment, WHY SHOULD SULJOTET BE FELT AS "GREEK "???? SO IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT "GREEKS "😉
SULJOTET FOUGHT AGAINST THE OTTOMANS AND NOT AGAINST ALBANIANS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME THING WITH ALBANIANS. ALBANIANS WHO FOUGHT FOR OTTOMANS WERE RECRUITED BY FORCE TO BE INTO THE ARMY 😉😉😉 And this is a huge difference 😉.......ORTHODOXY ISN'T A SIGN OF PATRIOTISM, oooooo poor ignorant person. .....if orthodoxy is a sign of patriotism HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE PATRIARCH IS STILL IN CONSTANTINOPLE? ??? AND THE PATRIARCH WAS SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE SULTAN SINCE 1453!!! 😉 FANARIOTES WERE THE BEST SERVANTS OF THE SULTANS AND THEY WERE ORTHODOX TOO 😉😉😉
@Greece 1821 let me repeat again what I told you earlier that you are A POOR IGNORANT who can't make the difference between religion, patriotism and ethnicity.
Watch this video made in Russia, Moscow precisely. Here are muslims praying in front of the orthodox churches. Following your little brain Russia is a Muslim country by these pictures, right? !😉
th-cam.com/video/8S13-GoIERA/w-d-xo.html
Let me repeat you again that arvanites are the owners of Greece because Greece took the independence by their courage and blood and not because of the Orthodox Patriarch who is STILL in Constantinople 😉
@Greece 1821 hahaha YOUR LITTLE BRAIN IS REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT THE FACT THAT I TOLD YOU THAT ARVANITES ARE THE REAL OWNERS OF GREECE THAT'S WHY MARKO BOÇARI, BUBULINA ,KARAISKAQI USED TO FIGHT FOR IT....not a single word about the video made in Moscow? 😂😉
Now. ....let me remind you that the concept of "Greece" of 199 years ago has nothing to do with the nowadays "Greece " simply because until the XX century the discussions in Parliament were made in Albanian because it was a normal thing and because Greek language was taught in school because it was not popular among arvanites 😉.
Let me remind you again that your little brain feels confused to make the difference between religion, ethnicity and patriotism.
You can't say a single word about the presence of PATRIARCH IN CONSTANDINOPLE 😉
@Greece 1821 Good Bless the Patriarch of the orthodox who ruled over the christians side by side with the sultans!
You really think that you can play with me? Do you know that the revolution started by arvanites at the very begging it started by Ali Pashë Tepelena and after his death the arvanites who were serving to him continued the war further? You knew this?
@Greece 1821 now let me remind you again that your little brain can't understand big issues but I'll try again to explain to you that the Revolution started by Ali Pashë Tepelena and after his death the revolution was carried out by arvanites (suliots,precisely ).
If you don't trust me then you read this article in Wikipedia on Marko Boçari. The author tried really hard to hide the fact that suliots are simply Albanians but it is impossible to cover up the sun of the truth by lying. In this article you can read how Marko served in the ALBANIAN regiment of the French army in Corfu and there this "greek " hero learned. ....I'm repeating again HE LEARNED GREEK LANGUAGE 😉
In the same article you can read that when Ali Pashë Tepelena started the war against the ottomans the suliots were on the same side with ottomans against Ali Pasha because suliots and Ali Pasha were very hostile towards each other. When suliots understood finally that the real intentions of Ali Pasha was a war for liberation they passed on the side of Ali Pasha against the ottomans 😉......I told you that your little brain isn't capable to understand such things. Your brain is so little that you think that being an orthodox is a sign of patriotism but you never asked yourself how is it possible that the Patriarch was side by side with the sultan even the Constantinople was occupied by ottomans in 1453!😉
Idiot, did you ever asked yourself why the war of the independence began by a non-religious muslim as Ali Pasha was? I'll answer it by myself : it happened because the Christians were under the brainwashing lies of the patriarch of Constantinople who used to keep saying to the christians "this life is to suffer, the real salvation will be into the next life ",so the logic was "be quite and let the ottomans ruling undisputed and don't bother them because you will be "saved" when you'll die "😉
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Botsaris
Marko Boçari die from freedom to this people he Was Albanian orthodox and he wanted freedom from the Ottoman rule ....if he was grekk why he write a book albanian -grekk translate from me the Turkey was and is the problem in Balcan if we dont hate each other we created a great future not just for ous and for the Balkan
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS th-cam.com/video/b8QCGkja-QE/w-d-xo.html
Babi kacifes 😅😅😅
If we have the wisdom Balkanian nations to unite we could be the super power of Europe and mediteranean
Ancient "Greece" was pelasgian. Byzantinium was a half of a LATIN ROMAN empire. And todays greeks are a mixture of gypsies-turks and armenians who came from Asia Minor in lands of native Arvanites
Greece 1821 of course you are a bunch of ignorants and its a waste of time talking history with you. But yes, there are some Albanians who are muslims. But islam is just a religion. This doesnt mean they are arabs or turks. Religions come and go. In ancient times greeks used to be pagans, later one became christians and when christianity divided into eastern and western they became eastern christians. During all that time they kept being greeks. Is not the religion defining your ethnicity. In USA and even in Greece there are greeks who go to evangelical, protestant or catholic churches. This doesnt make them americans, british or italians. During ottoman invasion, some greeks, mostly in Athens and Crete but also elsewhere converted to islam. Just like some albanians did. This has nothing to do with their ethnicity. They kept speaking their native languages and kept their traditions. Religions are temporary. Ethnos is forever. In the future who knows, people will believe in some industrial technological god, or will cease believing at all. In Albania most of the people are already atheists. Thats why representatives of religions, including muslims are so angry and so eager to show their numbers. 10 thousand muslims in a square are nothing compared to the silent majority of MILLIONS of albanians indiferent to any religion. Thats the truth. You would like us to be arabs or turks. But we are not. Sorry. And according to arvanites, they were christian Albanians. Just that. They fought for a christian state along with other christians like greeks, vlachs etc. They didnt have any national or ethnic conscience. The concept of “greece” as it is today was born later. Of course this sounds totally ununderstandable to you. Probably you are just some euphoric teenager whith just tales and no ideas inside your brainwashed head.
ETHNIC ALBANIA IS COMMING
@realpanatha13 this not true...he never said that greec is..but he was so hard because he thinkit like albanian.....greks are to slims..but they miss braveheart..i m sorry...
bocari it's albanian ;;;i love albanian
MARKO BOCARI WAS ALBANIAN OF TRIBE SULI,ali pashe tepelena destroyed their tribe he moved in Greece and gave his contribution to make Greek independent,PLEASE DON'T BE CYNICAL you should show more respect for albanians who gave contibution for you
@Souliot 🙈😅😅😅😅😅 te gjeta kurva e Derviçanit 🙈😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@Souliot Antipatrea 💪💪💪💪💪🇦🇱 asfalia 😅😅🙈😅😅😅😅
@Souliot Antipatrea is STRONG 💪💪💪💪🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱asfalia 🙈😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@Souliot Antipatrea is STRONG asfalia 🙈😅🙈😅🥤😅💪🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
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Ibrahim PASHA 1821
Antipatrea 2021🔥🔥🔥🔥
@KRONOSELLAS No, I am saying that today greeks have nothing to do with ancient hellenes. So, I do not understand your zeal on showing how developed were the ancestors of another nation.
Marcos Botsaris was a brave Greek who fought bravely against all albanians of Ali pasa...Souliots were fighting against albanians...1821 was not a war between Greeks and turks..it was mainly between Greeks and albanians...albanians have always been our main enemy...turks were always peaceful and they used albanians to fight Greeks..so its albanians that we need to annihilate...turks never harmed Greeks...
You have to consider that at that time people even if they spoke the same language they didn't consider themselves the same people if the religion was different. Souliotes spoke Albanian dialect, and they accepted to be Greek as part of an orthodox culture. Nowadays the world has changed and religion has not the importance he had before!
Jakob Fallmerayer the helenic race has been wiped out in Europe
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@KRONOSELLAS And even if HELLENIC (attention, not greek) theatre was played in Butrint, so what. American movies are being played in Athens cinema's right now. It doesnt make Athens US.
WE GREEKS ARE ONLY PEOPLE OF EUROPE WHO IS BEING MISTAKEN AS ARABS. GREEKS AND ARABS LOOK THE SAME.
SOMETIMES I AM FEELING ASHAMED TO BE GREEK AND I AM WORSHIPPING ALBANIANS AS HEROES
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS Aristidh Kola Bocari KOLOKOTRONI Xhavella Skenderbeu Marku 🇦🇱🇦🇱 ti Kacifa Mitropano gypsy egjypti 🇪🇬🇪🇬😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
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@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS Bocari🇦🇱🙏🏼
@ELLINAS SOULIOTIS Ti ellinas Suliot 😅😅ti je çoban nga vllaina e rumanis o te qifsha gruan e kaçifes😅😅🏊♀️🏊♀️🏊♀️🏊♀️
If u say so.....loool
albania dont need him......we have a lot markos in albania..still now...hahahahahah....all albanians are markos....
Marco bocari is albanian 🇦🇱
Greek Gypsy
Greece 1821 Greece is Egyptians and Turks.......🇦🇱Arbanites are Albanian🇦🇱
Greece 1821 shko ore qiu te qifsha çobanen ne byth...arbanites suljotes are Albanian💪illyroi🇦🇱
Greece 1821 Marko Boçari🇦🇱 grek Gypsy
Anisa Wer ky esht turk russoponti lere të flase 😂
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Babi kacifes duke i rènè SAXOFONit😅😅😅😅
beeing ordotox dosent mean ur greek,its for laugh this theory.30%of population in Albania are christian-orthodox....25% christian-catholic,they are greek or italians??u greeks dont be decilous!
You are not Arvnites, because if you were Arvanite, you wouldn't say that what you said. On the other hand the Greece propaganda of history had done the job and cleaned you brain.
@Greece 1821 Cuz he is muslim, when Turkey conqued Albania, they changed the name, but not for all Albanians.
@Greece 1821 bruh no, not all albanians use turkish name, many albanians call their sons with albanian words(not turkish words)
The Suliotes are Christian Albanians. - Even today Arvanite songs are in "Arvanitika" which is "Albanian" language.
An Albanian person can perfectly understand Arvanitika songs.
A greek person can not understand Arvanitika songs. ✌🇦🇱
@Greece 1821 - Majority of Christians in Albania are orthodox.
@GREEK SOULI - Arvanites learned greek in school.
They spoke "Arvanitika" which is "Albanian" language.
Arvanites fought against the Ottomans.
Yes, many Albanians were in the Ottoman army.
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@GREEK SOULI - Listen here you fuckhead: Arvanites fought and killed, and were killed by Ottoman soldiers. Arvanites NEVER killed Albanians.
Arvanites are Albanians!
Language is everything! It determines who a group of people are. The culture and identity of a people!
The English people speak English. The French people speak French.
The German people speak German.
The Turkish people speak Turkish.
So do not come here and write idiotic stuff!
sir do not deceive people, Marko Bocari is from Suli. The inhabitants of Suli were expelled by the Greek army to Albania because they were Cham Albanians. The question arises; Marko Bocari's tribe were expelled from Greece because they were Albanians but Marko Bocari What was it ???? !! This is a rhetorical question. The revolution of 1821 was carried out by the Arvanites, at that time the Greeks did not exist.
Neither albanians as a nation