OVERWATCH 2 DOOMFIST GUIDE! - ABILITIES + HOW TO PLAY + DOOMFIST GAMEPLAY! || Overwatch 2
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- THEY CHANGED DOOMFIST SO MUCH! Check this guide to find out the differences and how you need to adjust your playstyle to get the right value on him
If you want to perform as well as you can in Overwatch 2, then you can trust this video, as I'm a top 100, 4500sr main tank Overwatch player with 4 years of hero shooter experience!
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Abilities
1:33 - Strengths and Weaknesses
3:26 - When to Play
4:37 - How to Play
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Doomfist is the embodiment of "how did that not kill"
Lol exactly
Me every game
Its so painfully seeing someone slip and slide off a wall 😫😭
Not anymore lmao
@@kalebbobby34 real shit ? I didn't think the buffs would be enough
I think Doom would feel better if he could gain self shield off of ANY damage dealt and ANY damage taken increases his rocket punch damage. You get in and keep tanking as long as you’re hitting things. Getting hit makes your 7 sec cooldown rocket punch more threatening if you can tank long enough.
Doom could stay in fights and actually tank with some back line threat, leaning more into a brawler/tank class while still nodding to his OW1 power fantasy.
Definitely needs some changes. His primary fire just doesn’t feel right for his kit anymore though imo
That wouldn’t be a bad idea like every 50 damage gives a five damage punch increase scales up to fifty so charge punch does 30 and with this max scaled takes up to 80 and the blocked charged punch adds like another 30 making it 120 and the slam does 30 to 50 taking this coming up to either 150 or 170 and this wouldn’t be broken as it would require him to take damage and survive fully making him into the tank role while keeping his old damage
@@Dunmuir this seems to be something no one's touching on. Even adding maybe 1-2 more shots and increasing the fire rate could help but I almost want to see something different.
@@Dunmuir yea the primary fire is 100% the issue
A grandma who shoots darts does more damage than doom who absolutely slams people into a wall
Seems legit
Not to mention a kick from a pacifist robot, is on par with a character that canonically leveled a skyscraper in a single punch. Absolute garbage rework and drained all desire to play him after him formerly being my main, despite also being a tank main predominantly. He just hits that pathetically even within his own character class constituents much less the broader game.
@@afrosamurai3847 bro not to brag but I still pop off with him but I have to sweat so hard to impress the team if he just gets a damage buff I reckon everyone will be happy
@@ruben149 I think what he needs is lower cooldowns and/or armor. The problem with him is the fact he takes too much damage and die quickly, that together with the fact that his playstyle is essentially being displlaced from your team, makes unplayable if he doesn't resist more damage or move more.
@@ruben149 lmao you really do have to sweat hella hard to pop off. it does feel satisfying when u do tho
as a doom main i hate what they have done to him so much
I think the changes are ok i just wish the Punch it self would do more damage like 60-85
@@AleUkko Nah he is now like Orisa in Ow1, on paper he can do good and is "fun" but in the real game with real thinking enemies he is useless as shit
@@AleUkko Also, in ow1 every doom had his own playstyle, tricks and ways to get the juicy picks, now (see 4:42) he has 3, just 3 take it or leave it.
@@boxs6195 agree, but can you learn to use commas and not capitalized every single word? I had a mild stroke trying to read your comment.
I fucking hate new doom
I've always seen Doomfist as a really cool character, started using him today and I can't belive how much he sucks, when I hit someone (with a fully charged punch) against a wall, I feel like it does nothing, like it doesn't have any impact at all, same goes with all of his abilities but you would've expect that at least the fist would be able to do something noticeable, his name is Doomfist after all. Too bad he doesn't feel as powerful as I thought.
He’s pretty weak at the moment
as a doom main, i wouldn’t try to use a rocket punch to secure a kill. have the mindset of “get them off me” when playing. keep conscious if you’re in sight of your supports. literally just click of his rocket punch is enough to get a rein out of swing range of him
Yea, as a doomfist main who mained both dpsdoom and tankfist now, his new main source of damage is his pfire and emp punch. The main things that define a good vs bad doomfist these days is landing those shots abilities and positioning aside
He's fun to play but needs buffs.
Why take Doomfist when every other tank can defend their team better, survive longer, and kill squishies easier?
He needs to be able to block at any time since he only reduced damage for himself when he does it, AND block stunning/sleeping projectiles. Genji's Deflect is on the same CD and is significantly more effective, even without the return damage.
The amount of overshield Doomfist can have caps at 150, for a max of 600 health (and 0 armor), which is significantly less maximum health than all other tanks except for Zarya, who (let's be honest) has way more survivability and utility than Doomfist in any engagement. His only upside is that he can escape and abandon his team and objective better than any other tank in the game.
Needs buffs definitely a
because one punch is all I need
Doom is the worst character in the game... Bro can level skyscrapers in the lore but a fully charged punch does what? 40 damage? gtfo
Seems legit lol
doomfist after using his abilities in full rotation twice and still dying to a 60 yr old egyptian grandma ( he did 20 damage )
Seems balanced lool
It feels like they made these changes with the 6 player setup in mind. His harass is just too weak and provides no protection to his team. He’d be pretty decent as a second tank, but as a solo tank he feels like you’d be better just replacing him with a third dps if you could.
Also, defence matrix is just outright better than power block in practically every single wat
Dva is omega op to be fair, but I get you on this
@@Dunmuir well yeah dva is mega op but really, what other tank or even character really has to jump through so many hoops to do mediocre damage. You have to use a crappy block that only affects you, only from the front, doesn’t block all damage and half the time like wirh abilities that stick doesn’t even block, to block 90 damage to empower another ability, which you have to spend 2 seconds charging while standing still with no damage reduction and low health for a tank, to hit what honestly feels like the hitbox of a needle to do 45 damage and if by some grace of the gods the person you somehow hit also hits a wall instead of SLIDING ALONG IT FOR NO REASON, they take another 60 damage and stunning them if it does hit the wall.
That’s not even enough to kill a tracer
@@tdmc6428 Jumping through hoops is a good way to put it. I played Doom in comp a few times and the best play I had was getting a full charge from power block, punching past the enemy tank and hitting both healers against a wall, then using my ult to finish them off. It's like, wtf, why did I have to get so many things exactly right to be useful? Every other tank is dramatically easier to play and stronger.
Can’t say I like the new doom.
Feel like it’s 50/50 overall
thank you for making this video it really help to improved my game play
As a new player who only downloaded overwatch 2 because it was free, after winning my 50 casual games I was in love with the game and the tank role. But I could never really figure out doom fist and this helped a lot, so thanks
Perfect! Glad I could help ya ;D
well put together guide! One think i didnt miss but I think would be cool if you had a section of your overall thoughts of doomfist. Thank you!!!!
He’s not too amazing at the moment, needs some buffs, and is weak against Ana, Sombra, and supports peeling for each other. Playing Winston or ball will do a lot of the same thing but just be better
Doom fist needs major tweaks. His charge punch should do more damage, his shotgun should do less damage, his guard should charge shield, and his ult needs a buff maybe a knock down effect like reins ult.
You forgot to mention the fact you can press the slam button again before you hit the ground, to cancel the actual slam and use it for mobility and recover faster.
sweet vid and solid guide, time to adapt and get guud with doom all over again!
"Whoooa~ Doomfists gauntlet! They said he could level a sky scraper.." Punches a brittle Mercy, does an 8th of her health. And they say and they say and they say-
As a Doom main in OW1, I have to say I like and don't like the changes that they made to Doom.
From mechanic wise, or how many possible gameplay styles there were, now it just comes down to a few.
But if you learn how to play him, he is really good at dealing damage, but you also need to have a good team.
Until a Sombra pulls up on you loool
Jesus loves you so much he died for you he wants to be your friend accept him before it's too late the rapture is soon God bless you and your family ❤ ❤.
You talk about the ult, but don't show it in the video as your talking about it. The disconnect between the audio guide and visuals makes it challenging to understand.
Not to mention the choppy framerate.
Getting a full charge from the block resets the rocket punch cooldown so you can use it twice
You said more in 8 minutes than any other channel cant say in less than 14. Worth a sub and a bell for sure. Cheers and thanks!
Thanks so much! I appreciate the support
Its just crazy because Doomfist is in the same category as Orisa which he doesn't even come close in comparison to her. She has way more abilities and is way strong and don't even get me started or Zarya. So why cant they make him stronger like them? I see nobody using Doomfist most of the time.
Blizzard balancing lul
I know this is too probably too ambitious for this kind of game but wouldn't it be really interesting if he could cancel his other abilities into his guard stance while retaining the momentum?
The real buff Doomfist needs is to remove that stupid knuckle gun of his and let him actually be a melee character. The fact he isnt already is a crime in of itself
Not a bad idea considering it doesn’t fit his kit anymore tbh
@@Dunmuir thank you.
been saying this since ow1 they f-ed his whole design and aesthetic as a pure melee hero by giving him a gun period.
ULTIMATE DOOMFIST GUIDE:
Don't play him.
Press H and choose other character lol
Jesus loves you so much ❤,
Unless your zbra i guess
There was no reason to make his punch so weak
even the powered punch is still not as good
Totally agree with the other map long one shots in widow/hanzo and the 0 recoil cannon that is Sojourne, yet the character that uses 2+ abilities to get mid to melee range getting a otk was too much. Absolutely brainless logic from out of touch players.
@@afrosamurai3847 don’t forget how even easier cree is with a magnetic nade
i have a couple hundred hours on doom in ow1 and while i will miss one shotting people i can confidently say he is going to be more viable above plat now,good guide
Thank you! Hope you have fun with tank doom!
I have hours with doom ow1 and definitely dont like it not because of the damage , its the lack of defense and the lost of rising upper cut.
Cap anyone with a stun just dicks on him, unless they make him stun immune while charging the block ability he will always be hard countered by Orisa, hog and sigma
So its been a couple of days since this comment do you still think he has any value ?
@@leaf7363 sombra ;D
I'm sorry but there's just no excuse to pick doom over another tank right now, even when played optimally. Man is on life support.
Actual pain
Coming from ow doom feels neutered, he feels like he has less health somehow, or at least survive-ability, unless I’m sneaking or not seen im getting beamed by the enemy team. If he had damage reduction when charging and using his rocket punch that would make him that much better, that and increase the amount of shields he gets from abilities
I just see him permanently being countered by Sombra in high tier play
@@Dunmuir yeah… sombras lit
Maybe a good way to make Doom tankier would be for him to take health damage before overhealth damage. If he could be healed while he has an overhealth shield then he would have a larger effective health bar as long as he keeps landing abilities. Might have to retune the amount of health he gains and the cap though if it ends up being op
Doom really just needs Sombra to not be in the game lol
I think the thing they should REALLY buff is his power block. I think the ability makes a lot of sense but he suffers from hard cc waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much compared to every other tank like at least let him absorb Ana sleep dude.
Absorbing Ana’s sleep would be a really big buff 👀
@@Dunmuir yea it really would be. I think it might also be a good idea if his ult had better utility as it only slows for a short period of time on hit, like only 25%; maybe a .5 sec knock-up could be interesting.
He needs a little more mobility and tankiness too. Winston and Balls mobility cool downs aren't as long as Dooms slam. Not to mention the other two have 360 shields to protect themselves when they dive, with short mobility cooldowns to get out of there when the shields are down. Claiming Doom is a dive Tank is a lie because 90% of the time you get killed from the back when playing him.
That zen wanted all the smoke lmao
2:57 YO THATS ME!!!
Ayeee what’s good? 👀
thank you for the vid i'm a god doom now
Let’s goooo 👀
After yesterday’s buff my first ranked match my team was panicking because he wouldn’t die
I get that he used to be a Oneshot-Hero, but that was kind of the point! He’s the Main Villain! He should be allowed that kind of power. The Rocket Punch was like, the crown jewel ability he had, but now even powered up it’s sooo blaaah.
I just feel like having to change how you play him is awkward, because most of his moves aren’t that much changed. He’s still a combo fighter, just with one less combo piece.
The moment the other team sees Doom. They switch Ana and Orisa with a pocket Mercy.
He can't survive on his own like Ball as a dive and can't protect his team with a shield or fortify. His ult misses often even in the lower tiers. He can't control space because he's always an easy target and his only block ability is forward facing only.
He's fun to play but clearly hard to balance for the devs. If his spam cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds. He'd still be underwhelming.
I love everything about doom and was a doom main in OW1. My wet dream has came true. He became tank but as well as my nightmare. He is super underwhelming.
In a game that everyone are coward and uses gun. I wanna play a chad that has a GIGA FIST to smash the heck out of ppl.
I gonna keep playing him til the buffs come and when it’s here, we will show other tank what is a true Chad.
Stay strong my Doomlads, we will smash their face someday.
Yeppp, you’re a tank player now. Nightmare definitely started
@@Dunmuir don’t worry, i play tank and Bruiser every game even since OW1 i was tank main, it’s just doom got that big dick chad energy that make me been maining him til now.
Dmg buff is a necessity no debate it’s so absurd how little he does
He just tickles people
@@Dunmuir frrr
How do you get the ability description to show up in training, like in the first one?
If you mean ingame, click F1
Thanks for the guide I just lost 5 games in a row!
Before or after watching? 👀
@@Dunmuir after lol
💀
bro u can cancel the slam w the punch, allowing for insane rollouts
Tru they’re pretty sick
I didn't know he could leap like that
Does he still stun on the punch?
whats your biggest tip on how to get better at doom
Just pay attention to your team and engage when they’re ready for you to go in. Then, take note of the effect what you do has. Doom is a lot about limit testing and figuring things out. With the high APM play style and potential there’s a lot of flexibility and opportunity, but you have to take note to what it does for you and your teammates
How are u jumping up so high with seismic slam? I see ppl jumping over walls and objects and no idea how to do it.
Aim up and jump before you use it!
do one of these for wrecking ball pls
“How to survive against Sombra” that’s what I’ll name it lol
Bet people that were asking for buff here are VERY happy rn
Back in OW1 I said he should have been a tank cause then his health may not be so low. Now he's a tank but they got rid of his uppercut and gave him a health increase that don't even matter, while also making him less fun, lmao. Literally just give him his old kit and the health increase and he'd be perfectly fine I think.
The one kill punch was hard to pull off IIRC and only for smaller characters. But if that was their issue with the character, I play Moira and have a Hog bully me all the time doing literally one move, lol. Just another Blizzard L I feel. Good video, though!
One shot punch should definitely not be in the game, but I think you’re right they could’ve included more of his old kit 🤔 one shots in general are terrible.. hog, widow, old doom all not fun to play against
@@Dunmuir Agreed. I don't play on my account, but I played a bit on my brother's the other day. Widow, Hog, Sojourn (if that's how you spell it) kept one shotting me *the moment* that I left spawn lmao. Absolutely terrible experience.
Just give him 300 health and return his old dmg and kit while remaining in the tank role i honestly believe thats the only way to save him without making him braindead op
I mean he is fine but you have more tanky heroes to pick as tank and better options to go to enemy backLine for supports like Winston. so i never pick him in a game 😅
Yehh, he’s outclassed overall
@@Dunmuir if the game had 2 tanks then he might had been fine
Feel like they need to buff doomfist, because I don't see any reason to play him over Orisa or Roadhog.
They do for sure, especially with Sombra hard countering him
I 100% with people saying that there is no reason to pick him in place of other tanks besides fun. BUT I think some of you guys are missing the mark. Df is not chosen for his damage or defensive abilities, but is chosen for his disruption potential. Yes, He needs a buff, but his disruption with the empowered punch is pretty decent. A good area knockback with stun and an average damage. He just needs a bit more of self sustain and damage. For self sustain maybe a fortify effect while blocking to avoid CCs or more health generator. For damage... Idk. Maybe make his weapon hitscan or a small buff to the punch.
Orisa can desrupt way more than Doomfist. She uses her spin to push people, and completely block damage. She uses throw to displace, deal damage, push, and cancel channelling abilities, she also has fortify, power block, but about 10000x better, she cant be headshot, cant be cc'd, and gains health. Her ult is literally nothing but disruption as it just sucks everyone in like a grav. Orisa also deals damage on top of that. Much more disruptive in comparison to doomfist if you ask me.
Doomfist: Play this “tank” on maps where the enemy will have a hard time seeing him and shooting him in the face…
Isn’t the point of a tank to make space and TANK being shot in the face?
Sometimes, but not always. And Doomfist leans a lot more into the “not always” category
The point of tanks in OW2 is to do everything, create space, apply pressure, deal damage, they can do everything. Doomifst as a tank in OW1 would be fine, you have another main tank. But as the only tank in OW2 you can pick any other tank and ALWAYS get more value.
what's the music you used during the beginning of the video?
Don’t know the exact song. But it’s a Harris heller song from his hi-fi album
@@Dunmuir ok! thank you so much!
I thought you would show the techs in the how to play category🤦♂️
I feel like doomfist is one of those characters where when you use him you’ll feel like your playing shit but when you check the scoreboard, your still shit.
surely doom will be buffed right? or is that just wishful thinking… I feel like dooms only good in perfect conditions which really only will happen 1/10-20 games
Likely to see some buffs I’d say
@@Dunmuir awesome, I don’t see myself giving up on him.. just gonna master him until the buffs come & be ever stronger then xD
@@tensa- keep the grind up homie!
I love that hes a tank, but he does not feel like a tank at all.
Agreed 🤔
Doom lost absolutely everything that made him somewhat useful and unique
Honestly as a doom main, he desperately needs a dmg buff or his passive needs a rework
Great now I have to wait 10 mins to queue as a tank
Exactly why I haven’t played ranked yet. Everytime i look at it there’s a 12 minute queue. I don’t have time for that crap
Lmao I was the Lucio on your team in dorado
Oh yeh? 👀
What’s the best settings for doomfist????
Settings? What settings? This question makes no sense.
The ‘doom’ part of doomfist’s fist isn’t that noticeable
I feel like doomfist is one of those characters that people use to flex on others like “ohh you got killed by doomfist yu so bad
1 thing I ned to be good with doom is my aim
He's so much worse
Honestly is
ik
If ball with all his mobility can get *700* over health then doom should get way more over health from abilities because o my god he is so squishy for a tank.
True he’s in a weird place 👀
“rocket punch was one of his abilities that was changed for his new tank version”
arent ALL his regular abilities changed?
Ult, primary fire, and passive ability are the same other than number tweaks
@@Dunmuir like i said, regular abilities.
The power block ability is really good against countering certain ulimates.
True!
True I chuckled and blocked a Dva Bomb xD
But fr dmg wise he needs the Wall Splatter back I'm watching the guide and he should not be struggling to kill low hp targets.
Only for yourself though, your team is screwed
every other tank has an answer for it honestly except maybe balls and jq
Judging by the comments, I knew something about Doomfist dont feel right as a tank. And ive only started Overwatch via 2...
Yeahhh, he’s weird now
@@Dunmuir as a new player, I was bummed out that his uppercut was gone. Was real excited to play a Fighting game in an FPS
doom is incredibly fun to play but Jesus Christ it feels like I'm throwing wet paper towels at my enemies he needs a buff asap
actually
As a doom fist main I think he's more fun to play
OW1 DF was so, so, SO much better. More fun to play, more tech, more movement options, the power to actually kill something...
Flash forward to OW2, and we now have a wet sponge who gets outdamaged by a literal grandma when he himself is canonically able to knock a whole ass skyscraper in ONE PUNCH. Not to mention the squishiness of DF in comparison to other tanks in OW2 and the puny overshield he might as well not have given by the amount he currently gets. And not to mention that block which almost gets invalidated every time he even thinks of using it, and when you finally get a good block with it, it barely empowers your rocket punch.
When I play DF, I wanna feel like a force to be reckoned with. I want to feel as if I can squash the whole enemy team one by one by brutally splattering them with no mercy and in a timely manner, whilst also feeling relatively mobile. You can literally just look at his character design and it should be more than enough evidence. I DON'T want to feel like I'm slapping people with a wet napkin when I slam a 200 hp hero into a wall just to see that a few bars of their health went down and having to rely on a dodgy gun-based weapon on a melee-based hero. If I come from the sky and slam the ground with my massive gauntlet, I want to feel as if I'm actually damaging and killing people on that hit alone... but alas, Meteor Strike got absolutely totalled and is practically a worthless ult unless you solo use it on a squishy who's about half health after you use 2/3 abilities on them.
I think they can keep a couple of the changes like the Seismic Slam change, but unless he's reverted back into a DPS with 250 health or he gets a massive amount of buffs in his current state, I feel as if he'll be the least played hero in the entire game and that's counting Bastion who's been taken out of OW2 due to a bug.
TL;DR: DF in OW1 was just better, and I genuinely despise playing him in OW2 despite him being one of my more played characters.
They definitely killed the feeling of Doomfist in ow2. Didn’t even need e one shot punch to feel strong if they’d just lowered punch cd and lowered damage while keeping other abilities the same
What to do against hog
You just have to try and avoid him as much as possible, but it’s tough
@@Dunmuir but how can i help my team by tanking if i avoid him? I get bullied by hog
@@adrianstirbu6040by targeting high threat enemies, healers, etc. You're creating pressure on the enemy team that will make your teammates more safe and free to attack the enemies
How to play doomfist: Go back to spawn and change hero, there are much more better tanks than doomfist
He is incredibly weak, possibly one of the weakest heroes in the game. However he is fun to play.
The only way he is really viable is if you have a good team, or you are using coms, as Doomfist HEAVILY relies on his team. For example, you can fully charge an empowered Rocket Punch, and stun 3 enemy players into a wall, however this means nothing if your team can’t follow up and finish them off.
Unless your team can take advantage if your setups, Doomfist is useless. If you knock one of the enemy supports into your team, and then your team just lets them walk back to safety, immediately switch to another tank as clearly you will get nowhere with Doomfist.
Poor character design overall imo, another Blizz L
Not me buying every legendary skin for him on Overwatch and now he becomes trash in OW2...i suffer in pain
I hated DF in ow1. He was a cheese pick. Half of the time his abilities weren’t anywhere near you, hitting you.
I’d still rather have him this effective than in ow2 now. He is worthless lol.
Sombra a needs a nerf , now.
Sombra needs deleted
Power block is just a worst version of kinetic grasp
Tru 🤔
Thank you but for me doomfist ow2 not playable not funny so sad
Look what they've done to my boy 😔😔😔🤬🤬🤬 bring back one shot doom, SOOOO much more fun
Rip...
To be fair, any character that can one-shot is going to be very fun. The problem is that it's not fun to play against.
#BringBackDoomfist
Literally
👀
Why did they nerf him so much
Blizzard balancing smh
My question to Blizzard: Doom now can’t kill, can’t defend his own ass & protect allies and can’t really CC as the Slam is also nerfed 😂 ULT also sucks; so WTF is he & his Tanking role??????
Wish they’d kept the slow on his slam
Doom buffs
Doom sucks. No damage. No survivability. He’s like a weaker wrecking ball. If they don’t want to give him more damage, then he should at least get more over health when landing his abilities.
His ult is poop too… every other tank except maybe Orisa at least has a decent ult to tip a team fight…
He is also a selfish hero… contributes nothing to the survivability to his teammates.
I played him for a while to experiment with the changes. I thought he seemed not totally horrible when played carefully until I used his ult. Three squishies close to the centre and not one of them died. Not even less than half health. At that point I realised... he's total garbage lol. (And yes, I later learned the very tiny centre ring of his ult does 300 damage, but it's so tiny you'd have a hard time reliably hitting people even stuck in a grav.)
Instead of being a tank he should be a support lmao and his name shouls be doomprimaryfire
Edit: he needs buffs like big ones his buff needs like: punch dmg increase able to infinitely block to protect teamates like reinhardt and slam is ok now his ult NEEDS TO BE FASTER AND NEEDS A BUFF TOO
tips and tricks where
There
Ngl the gameplay in the back could have been more relevent to the things being discussed in the video just for ease of viewing and real time examples. Overall the video was informative but could have been better.
If ow2 would be 6v6.....
Would be better
I dont care if you're a doomfist God. You pick doomfist now, you're basiclly throwing unless you're playing bots.
Being good at tank doesnt mean you can play doom hes a different kind of tank hes the tank that assasinates targets snd has 0 utility
They fucked him up i bought golden gun for him and i should’ve bought for junk
they ruined him so bad
1tricked Doomfist in overwatch 1.
I hope this company goes fucking bankrupt
Loooool I do too 😈
They need to buff charge punch, rod can hit kill targets why doom cant do damage? He is so shit rn