One of the few gun collectors on TH-cam who knows how to inform and entertain with old world manners ,thank you as you represent to me how we should communicate without offensive mannerisms ,Respect thanks.
Well damn... Darn it the... You stole my thunder. Somehow this popped up on my feed so I watched it I couldn't agree more with you don't even know the gentleman's name at this point... I might add he's the type of guy that you would enjoy going hunting or shooting going to the range... So calm and collected probably don't have to worry about any accidents at the range with this gentleman. Most of you know what I'm talking about. Most of these gun the firearm channels the guys sound like they drank two pots of coffee before doing the video. Anyway I get done here I'm going to subscribe
Usually, a good gun begins from a good, governement specified cartridge. All these full-sized .22 guns are a wonderful excepcion of all limitions, as the. 22 l.r. is forever. Born to live.
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Beautiful collection as always. Though some of us might argue that the best .22 is always going to be the first one we had the opportunity to call our own.
Max Nameless: Your comment made me think fondly of my very first .22. It was a Marlin bolt action single shot that by Dad gave me for my 10th birthday. The ejected case drops down into a tube that runs under the barrel and slides out when you tip the muzzle down a bit. I still have that rifle 63 years later.
@Hunt or Die same mine was a 1986 marlin model 60 I got in 2013 when I was 7 still have it it's a very fun gun I keep it sighted and cleaned and everything
One of my personal favorites for a 22lr is a Ruger 77/22, solid and accurate, had a friend that had a case 'let go' and detonate the top round in the magazine, the only damage (other than the 'code brown' downstairs) was a crack in the plastic plate on the front of the magazine, but still works fine. The loose mount might be in part due to the difference in specs between US and Euro dovetails, something we see very often here in Australia.
When I was in high school and college, I shot smallbore rifle competitively. The club I belonged to had a collection of Winchester Model 52 heavy barrels. Everything was worn-in to perfection - the actions were just butter-smooth. Wonderful guns.
My quest for holy grail for a sporter 22’s .....Kimber (NY +Oregon), Remington 541, Winchester 52 ( reproduction), Winchester 69, and then Anschutz. I feel that Anschutz was the best choice for me and there are choices within the Anschutz line up to pick from.The Anschutz 1712/1710/1700 featherweight are great choices. They have great triggers, single and two stage, easy to adjust. A steel magazine. Receivers are dovetailed as well as drilled and tapped for scope bases, this gives a greater range for scope placement.Bolt handle is swept back, later models have a removable knob, allowing an aftermarket larger knob to be installed. The factory knob is large enough for an adult from the factory. The stock(s) have a high enough comb to allow the scope to be mounted at a reasonable height, giving the shooter good cheek weld for offhand shooting. These models have great balance, likely due to to the barrel weight/barrel contour and stock style. The only two negatives are, the wing safety can be awkward and the magazine release can be difficult to work. Both of these have solutions, Anschutz makes an extended mag release and later models have done away with the wing safety and now have a sliding safety. The example I have, a 1712, is extremely accurate for a sporter rifle. Sadly I did not keep the rifles I progressed through until I landed on the Anschutz 1712. My honorable mention goes to Winchester 52 Sporter..............I really liked the 52 Winchester sporter, it bluing was beautiful, the stock nicely finished. It’s stock and bolt handle configuration proved to be an obstacle I could not over come. The bolt handle, was made to exact dimensions from the original run. I believe that it was not made to clear today’s large 1” diameter scopes with their large objective lenses. This forced me to mount the scope to high, to clear the bolt handle, then I could not get a good cheek weld. I noticed the 52 Sporter in the video had a high mounted scope. Good luck in your quest.
I’m sort of a Military Training Rifle collector. I picked up an Excellent condition MAS 45 off of GunBroker about a year ago. It’s one of the best shooting and well made .22 rifles that I own. A little history on the rifle. At the end of WW2, the French army “occupied” Oberndorf, Germany. The original Mauser factory was located there. After the war, for a short time, the French produced the MAS 45 there and sent them back to France as training rifles for the French Army. Then the French decided to move all of Mauser’s machinery back to Saint Etienne, France, where they produced about 50,000 of them before ceasing
Hi Mark - very useful information - Mauser made such great firearms. I didn't know the machinery was moved to France. At one time I had a Mauser action - I think "Brevex" - which was made in France - quite a big action. People used them for African cartridges for awhile.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I collected WWII training rifles and my understanding on the MAS45 is at least some used KKW german made barreled actions intended for German trainers. After the war the French took these and made the stocks for them. The original KKW's were made by Mauser, Walther and Gustloff. They were the closest trainers "looks wise" to the K98's. Take a look at Simpson Ltd. collection.
I'm not much of a bolt .22 guy, but I very much enjoyed seeing that .22 Short French piece at the end. The only bolt .22 I own is an older Marlin magnum variety, and it is another sweet shooter. My wife likes it so much that she staked claim to it. Cannot argue against that... so it is hers. Just happy she likes to shoot.
Another great video, thank you. My best 22LR? Hard to go past the Brno Model 1 and/or 2, and possibly the CZ 455 for interchangeable barrels. Thanks again from Australia.
Thanks for showing us these interesting 22 rifles. I couldn't help being drawn to the MAS 45. I have never seen a Mauser 22 before. That safety jumped out to me. I look forward to more like these.
My first hardcore introduction to .22lr came when I was ten in 1964 and My career Army Dad enrolled me in an NRA Juniors program facilitated by The Army. The Army provided the rifles and the indoor range. Range to target was 50 ft. The target's bullseye was .22 in diameter. Cutting the ten ring was a bullseye and how sweet it was when your bullseye was dead center and ate the ten ring out. 5 spot targets 50pt. max score for sheet. As I recall the rifles were Winchesters and as I recall, they, or else my high school target rifle, were model 52.. They were heavy barreled, heavy stocks....heavy everything! As I recall the rifle weighed around 18 pounds. The rifle didn't even vibrate when you shot. Olympic styled sights with rear peep and front circle. The sights were calibrated for fifty feet and if you perfectly covered the entire "black" of the target, your round would be centered on the bulls eye. The program progressed starting in the prone position, then cross legged sitting followed by kneeling and finally offhand. Once You grew in proficiency and scoring you progressed to the next position and got a medal for the one you just finished...can't remember, but I think the medals were like marksman, pro marksman, marksman 1st class and standing was sharpshooter. The Standing medal had ten levels...or bars...and once you reached the highest level you got the expert medal. The guns, instruction, equipment (shooting jackets, claw type military slings etc) and safety, safety, safety! Dad got transferred after I had earned bar nine...but I would have gotten that expert medal. I still have the other medals packed away somewhere. I later shot on our High School (Also a DOD school on base) ROTC rifle team. All that trianing holds me in good stead even today. What a wonderful shooting experience, and one that I wish was offered to more youths today. One thing that really sticks in my mind was how hard the off hand position was for a ten-eleven year old. Man holding that heavy heavy rifle with my left elbow tucked into my rib cage and my right elbow almost up into my right armpit, peering through the sights and trying to time your shot as the front circle was drifting across the black....really really tough! Sorry this was so long!
Wonderful note - thank you! I know those rifles : ) So heavy - amazing you handled shooting them! I like the way you describe the "drift" across the target. I know exactly what you mean. When it looked like I had Parkinson's Disease the tremor in my hands and arms was so bad I also used the "drift" method - and pulled the trigger at what looked like the right moment. Haha! I was amazed how well the brain works - my groupings were fine. I wasn't sure how long I was going to live at the time and was still happy and okay with that - but I thought I'll keep shooting to the last. Anyway, your shooting and memory of it brought a smile and I agree: if only there were a way for our young people to experience things like this. The best of health to you.
Thanks for stirring up some real good junior gun club memories! John Mort in pleasant Valley New York, did all that for us. Mossberg, I think, target 22s. Four positions, occasionally went to West Point for matches. Denim vests with patches all over. That peepsight picture when you plugged it!
Several years ago, got a Remington model 34 bolt action tube fed .22, made 1932-35. Very unique cartridge handling system. That gun could shoot the wings off a fly at 100 feet-LOVE the feel of the gun, the balance, and there sights are incredible. Also, love the finger grooves in the forearm. My kids are already fighting over it and I'm not dead yet. Yesterday at an auction got a slightly newer Remington 512. No finger grooves, slightly more robust stock, hard rubber butt plate instead of steel, but with a bit of cleaning and a little oil, same sights and spot on target-another winner!
I am a fan of your videos, always informative and well presented. As a child in the early 50s Dad, my brother and I would shoot jackrabbits and sell them as mink food. They would bring as much as 25 cents apiece. We used a Mauser 22. It was as single shot that appeared to be a miniature 98 that had been sporterized. It had a plain stock, probably walnut with a Schnabel fore end. It had a tangent rear sight and a barleycorn front. It was very very accurate. The rear end of the old Dodge would dip down with the weight of the jacks on a good afternoon.
Thanks for sharing - that Mauser .22 would be worth quite a few loads of jack rabbits these days. : ) Great memory. I still have one of those Mauser .22s
Thank you for a laid-back and informative video, enjoyed it. I purchased a Marlin 881 bolt-action .22 in 1994; it has the 'JM' (John Marlin) inscription on the barrel which- you probably already know - denotes the original Marlin company. It has a tubular magazine that holds 17 LR or 21 shorts. It's nothing fancy but I enjoy it. Looking forward to your next video.
My vote is for the Full size Remington 521T with Lyman Peep Sights. My dad bought this gun for me in the early 1950s. It was built like a tank, very reliable and accurate.
My first experience with your videos. I must say I am impressed with your knowledge, and your delivery. Love learning about firearms I did not know existed!!! Keep up the good work.
Love your videos. I am 71 and have been shooting my entire life. As a young boy, my father bought me a Daisy BB rifle and I have continued on since then. I still have a Daisy that I bought through the Civilian Marksmanship Program that I use in 10-meter target shooting. I have and have had dozens of 22 caliber rifles and I would be hard-pressed to pick one as my favorite, which of your children do you love the most LOL.
I bought one of these in the mid 80’s. Has always been one of m favorite. The only problem is it’s weight, ran across one about 6 months ago and could not justify the price for the condition it was in
My Favorite 22 Bolt Action Rifle is My Old Remington Model 514 Single Shot With Weaver Scope on an Old School See Thru Scope Base So You Can Also Use The Buckhorn Sight and Front Sight Is Brass Bead 😎😊 I Never Seem To Miss When I’m Shooting It 😀
I already have one of the most coveted .22 LR rifles of them all, the Marlin 39A, but if I were to get another .22 LR rifle currently being made and not have to worry about price, it would be the Ruger 77/22. I went to high school with a guy who had one back in the mid-1980s, and we both talked about our respective rifles with each other, almost as if they were our kids.
Hi Robert! I wish I had a Zephyr - I just can't find one : ) Hope you have at least one - I was offered and was thinking about it and then it was gone.
I get my BSW shotgun today and should join your Patreon page to discuss it.So few understand these ancient old guns and it is refreshing to find someone that like these guns like I do.I regret selling my old SImson 22 now.
Thanks for showing these rifles. Some unique features on European rifles. I use to shoot alot of .22 short in my single shot rifle but that was back when .22 short cost less than .22 long or long rifle.
In high school I shot on a private city team small bore. We traved and shot against other towns always fun. I shot a win. 52 d with a thumb hole stock all set up for target shooting and my squirrel rifle was a anshutz mod 184 which I still have, my Dad bought it for me on my 16 th birthday excellent rifle.
I never comment on youtube videos, but this is the most quality video ever. Strictly your opinion, while acknowledging everyone else's. I've been looking for a new 22 and did some googling and came across your video and just wanted you to know sir, this is a GREAT video. Subscribed
I grew up with a Mossberg model 46. This is a really neat .22 rifle (short, long, and LR). It has a walnut stock and blued steel barrel and receiver. What's really interesting is the three sights; a click adjustable rear peep target sight that can swing out of the way so one can use the barrel mounted rear sight, which is also adjustable. The front sight is unique with three "flip-up" type apertures. I was recently told that this rifle was called the Future Farmers of America rifle because various organizations would purchase these rifles for youth training. The 46 was "upgraded" later with the model 146 which had the same basic features. I can't pass up these rifles whenever I see one for sale.
Hi Ralph - Simply excellent rifles - plenty of collectors look for them - including me. Some have loose front sights and the various blades spin and flop around - I use rubber armored needle nose pliers to tighten - and then they're like new. I like the post with the flat ball on top - rarely miss with that sight. Good on you for detecting a classic. Take good care.
Oh my now I should get into this.. Not because I own a Win . Model 52 or a Remington 40 XB but because both are very well proven and have become the standard of excellence.. I do own the Remington 513 T Matchmaster which is not the same as the famous 40 XB but extremely accurate with fit , function and form.. Over the years I have had the pleasure of firing a Kimber .22 bolt action rifle which was flawless in performance and quality.. Just my opinion on the mix.. Very well done on your part.. Anshuliz .22 rifle I have seen one and it was of excellent quality too..
All fine firearms........my personal favorite is a CZ 452 Lux in my experience personal favorites are completely subjective whether its firearms , motorcycles, music or women...........
I have a Winchester Mod. 131 that I like a lot. Mauser style bolt I believe. Always have a soft spot for Winchesters as my first 22 was a youth single shot in the mid fifties, then a model 94 in 30-30, then a Model 70 .243. My Dad had a Winchester (mod 64 I believe pre WWII) as I grew up. Then the company started dialing back in quality as it changed ownership over the following years. Still remember Christmas mornings first at seven when I got my 22 then at twelve when the 30-30 was under the tree with a box of Super X. Doesn't get much better for a country kid. Take care. Doug
What a unique 22 rifle. I forget other than it was French and it had the clip or magazine. The 22 short semi-auto. I would have not known that was a semi-auto unless you point it out sir... I enjoyed all of the guys but that was especially cool and something I've never seen before. I don't know why you don't have about 500,000 subscribers. Godspeed and getting there. About one minute into the video I knew I was going to subscribe
I have a very early lithgow. My dad's rifle probably around the time of your one. The engineering is beautiful and it's still a nail driver. Thank you for this. Cheers.
Great guns and choices, but I have to go with the CZ-452 as my choice for best .22 bolt action of all-time. Smooth action, accurate, nice trigger, huge variety, and old school quality is what makes it my selection for the best .22 bolt. When it comes to free-floating or not it all depends on how the gun was designed. There are some guns that like having a free-floating barrel and in others doing that will destroy their accuracy. With regard as to what to look for in collecting firearms the first question I think that people need to ask themselves is if they plan on shooting and/or hunting with that gun. If they do then they can plan on going for something that isn't on the high-end of the condition scale and go for something that can be shot without loss of value. For example a person may want to get a Pre-64 Model 70 Super Grade in 375 H&H for their dream elk and moose hunt. As such a new in box Pre-64 Model 70 Super Grade in 375 H&H that hasn't been shot since being sighted in at the factory is probably not the way to go. Instead, going for one that has seen actual use is the better choice. On the other hand if a person is looking for a gun to show people and/or be an investment the NIB one is probably right up their alley. Anyhow, stay safe and thank you for a wonderful video.
Yes I concur. Not that I know that much about collecting guns. I know the model 70 you speak of. But when it comes to cars. I've probably owned a half a dozen in my lifetime I wish I would have just got it out to drive it parades on the 4th of July. Having said that thoroughly enjoyed driving them like they're meant to be
Never owned a CZ firearm what's a good price to pay for one of those 22 long rifle. I do know about their reputation. As far as new 22 long rifle bolt action goes my understanding is they don't have any peers
Fine rifles , love my .22's and have 12 or 14 . There all favorites , a few of my finer examples are my Voere open bolt and my MAS 45 . Mine is in near new old stock condition and looks pretty much perfect in every way . I've had it some 40 years and don't remember ever shooting it . Stock is a light color and looks awesome . Pretty impressive rifle .
I Just found your channel. It showed up on Google news feed. You have been on here 8 yrs. And this is the first time I recall seeing your channel. I subscribed. Great content. Thank you
I have no experience with the Model 52 but over ten years ago I got my hands on a MAS 45 for $40.00 It was missing the magazine and butt plate, the whole toe section of the butt stock had broken off as well as a sizeable piece of wood behind the tang. I repaired it with Acra-glass and a Dremel tool, then bought the mag and a generic plastic butt plate at the next gun show. It shot like a house on fire too but not better than my CZ 452 Lux -- which I also sold when times got tough. I wish I had it back because it performed equally well at the range and in the gopher patch.
I am so glad I stumbled across your channel. Your Gevarm made me think of my beautiful little Remington 241 semiauto. It is .22 Short only and loads through the buttstock. I have had it since the early 1970's. I can not vouch for how it shoots as it is one of the very, very few firearms that I have never fired - not by design, it just happened that way. I was told that the 241 was the inspiration for Browning's .22 semiautomatic rifle, but the 241's receiver has parallel lines instead of the taper of the Browning. I actually owned a Browning for a couple days, but it was defective and I had to return it; sadly I never got another one. I still have the 241, though.
Hi Michael - that is a valuable rifle - especially in .22 Short. I had a Remington 241 as well and something was different about it - I think it was some kind of different .22 rimfire - but I could be remembering wrong - so well made and wonderful to own though. Thanks for the note.
I bought a MAS 45 rifle years ago when they were about $120.00 (US). Mine was pristine. I have also owned 4 Winchester 52's. My last Win 52 had a E prefix on the serial number and it was a target model new in the box. I was exited to find out that after reading the NRA article about 52's, that there were only 275 of them made after mine when they ceased production. They are both very fine rifles. One comment I will say about both of them is they have bolts that are larger in diameter than most .22 BA rifles. My personal faves are the Win. 52, Rem 37, Rem 40X, Hammerli Free Rifle, and the BSA Internal Match MK 4, And some of the CZ's. They are all precision rifles. I know there are others, but this is just my opinion.
I have the luxury of being able to switch off between the Miroku/Winchester 52B, and a beautifully sporterized US Model 1922 M1, at present wearing a Lyman Parma Center 8X with adjustable objective, in Redfield rings and base. Adjustable trigger, subdued maple stock with Neidner butt plate, ebony grip cap and fore end tip. I checkered it up with a conservative point pattern, and it's about a toss up between which of the two is the more accurate. On any given day, more likely the difference can be attributed to my coffee intake prior to getting to the bench. If you get the opportunity, you MUST handle and shoot one of the Springfield's!
Mossberg 44 ..22 trainer is the best 22 bolt action for hunting squirrel.....I didn't say prettest Didn't say most expensive....best for knocking around woods with..not staring at.
I have a VERY NICE Mossberg 44B-B I would say in 95+% condition. The bolt handle is BEAUTIFUL CASE COLORED, never saw one that way. It is similar to several other Mossberg model 44's but they must be military use because of the cheap rear receiver peep sight and sheet metal front sight. Mine has a Mossberg S33 receiver peep sight looks like a Redfield copy peep and a nice well made HOODED FRONT SIGHT. ITS THE NICEST OLD MOSSBERG I'VE EVER SEEN, most I've ever seen have been WELL USED.😯🤗😁😉👍
I didn’t shoot the Winchester very often and I don’t shoot the MAS very often either . The .22 rifle I shoot the most is a Marlin model 39A with. 16 in. Barrel & skinner peep sight , just a fun little rifle to shoot .
By far some of the best crafted 22 rimfire bolt action rifles I've seen. I have heard of these before but never really paid them much mind. As always thanks for introducing many of us to another stunning classic! Hit the like and subscribe everybody!
I've had my eye out for a MAS 45 but none have appeared. That Gevarm butt in wood looks like it has two holes where a butt plate was once mounted. Perhaps it was customized for length of pull.
I thought I made a comment on this video before and I mentioned to you that I wanted to get a model 52 but didn’t think I’d ever find one I could afford I just want to let you know that I found one it’s my dream gun 22 and it was very affordable but it’s in very very good condition all original and I am very happy with it to me tomorrow 52 is the number 122 bolt action rifle.
I really enjoy my old ZB-produced ZKM456 from 1958. It has an outstanding trigger and excellent accuracy and it was quite inexpensive. The model is however not all that common had has some odd features for a 22 rather reminiscent of a classic big game rifle..
I have a MAS 45 that I inherited from my dad. It is in immaculate condition in a blonde wood stock and it is, indeed a tack driver! I have heard (I could be wrong) that they were used as training rifles for the military.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I prefer older, unusual rifles. I also have a few of your favorites, 2 Model 100s in 308win, a post '64 rifle and a carbine. Also have a post '64 Model 88, looking for a carbine, but they're extremely expensive. My Model 100 rifle won't group for anything (suspect the barrel is shot out) and have been considering having it rebored to 338 Federal, but will have a gunsmith inspect it before I go that route. Really enjoy your channel. Have you considered doing a segment on the Winchester Model 97 shotgun?.....have one of those too, as well as an old Remington Sportsman 58 that I've owned since I was 9yrs old.....I'm 63 now! Old guns for an old guy! 😊
I have a Winchester Model 52 Speed Lock made in 1932 in pristine condition. It came with a Ranger 4x scope but the eye relief is way too short so I mounted a low power scope to shoot at 50 yards. With proper trigger control it will hit the center of a one inch bulls eye. Number one rated 22 in the 1900s.
I believe I just saw one of those Mas 45's at a gun shop in Maine. I believe it was priced at $349. and it said military training rifle. It was pretty cool looking but I wondered why it was so pricy. Thanks for the great video!
"... I didn't say much because I thought well it's probably all correct except that I have a .22 short in my 22 vault" :D I need to emulate your general attitude toward things
Nice video. I can see a collector getting all excited over these rifles but the word "best" is situational dependent. Any rifle is the "best" rifle when that's all you have in a SHTF scenario. Urban conflict is close quarters, usually exchanging fire at close range under 50 yards. How do I decide if a .22 rifle is in the "best category"? Hitting golf balls at 40 yards with open sights, free hand.
The way through WW II. They were issued to the DCM Director of Civilian Marksmanship. May schools bought them for high schools rifle teams. We had 8 in our rifle team program. They were in active use until 1993 when the rifle range was closed that was in the basement of our elementary school. The were given to a local 4-H program. They are still in use. In two years they will be 100 years old. Can you imagine how many rounds of 22’s that those actions and barrels have shot off.
Swell video and some neat guns. I shot a friends Rem 541T some years back and that was some special rifle. My "best all-time" rimfire rifle always seems to be the one I'm currently shooting. Never fails, I pick a gun from my brace, shoot it and voila!! That's my favorite.
I like your vlogs, they are the best I believe I’ve seen and heard on utube. I have a Remington 581s that is very well built and I believe one of the best .22lr rifles ever made. Just my opinion. Thank you for your very informative vlogs. I glean much info, so when I go out gun hunting at dealers, pawn shops, etc., I am armed with much more information.
I’m a little surprised there’s no Ruger M77/22. I just started getting into 22 rim fires. All my other guns are center fire. The 77/22 is built like a full size rifle and handles great. Thank you for another great video
Well, There were many sporter type, fine 22 bolt actions, American, German, Austrian, Check's. My dream gun was a Wheatherby XXII, (when I was a KId around late 1960's) Never got one, Can't complain about my Rem 550 or my Marlin 39A and diggest 22 Short for close range doves
You got me interested in adding a 52 Sporter. I had never held one until a couple weeks ago when there were 4 of them at the same auction. One was a Miroku I thought might be in my budget. With 14 seconds left I was in at $961 and someone bumped it $3000 in one bid. The New Haven ones went for $4000-$5500, but I thought the Miroku was a $1300 gun? Maybe the bidder got confused by there being so many and thought he was getting a New Haven-built rifle? At any rate, we did get an apparently unfired 1927 Model 52 Target at a great buy.
There are so many wonderful .22s! I have a pre-A Model 52 made in 1937, a Springfield 1922-2, many Winchesters running from single shots, pumps, lever, bolts, and autos. FN made a single shot bolt action trainer for Israel, for all the world a K98, only about 1,100 made, I am proud to have one. Mossbergs, Remingtons, Anschutz, Savage, the list goes on and on. I buy them as I find them if condition warrants, the prices are usually not bad except for the more highly desired ones, your Model 52 and some others. Go to the Rimfire Central site to learn more that you ever thought there was to know about the common and the exotic.
I recently acquired a Winchester 52 (reproduction made in Japan), and I'll have to agree with you that they are amongst the world's best built rimfire rifles, if not "the Best". I also own three Remington 581 models that I customized by replacing the cheezy plastic barrel shroud with steel tubing machined to fit the action and barrel. All three are excellent shooters, with one in particular that has out-shot everything I have run across in .22 (including the Winchester 52). I owned a CZ 452 that is now sold because it just wouldn't keep up with any of my 581's, Most days when I am in the mood, and the wind wants to co-operate, I can regularly and quite consistently shoot into 1/4 of an inch at 50 yards using SK Standard Plus and the little Remington I mentioned. The barrels are not target grade by any means, the stocks are just standard Monte Carlo style, the actions are however very strong and rigidly built with six locking lugs, and the triggers are very crisp with probably the fastest lock time ever incorporated into a .22 rifle. Not fancy rifles, but most that have been taken care of just shoot very well.
The 581s are amazing. Every one I owned was a target rifle dressed like a humble sporter. I like that. I have a 5MM that shoots to one hole - just as yours probably do in .22. Guns level the playing field. A $10,000. rifle may not shoot as well as a $295. military surplus. I've seen it. I'm never surprised. The richest people on earth are not the greatest poets, the best parents, the most learned or kind people - they're just rich. So it is with expensive guns - they're just expensive - in terms of what they can do - that is a different matter.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have always thought of firearms as shoes. The one that fits you the best and is the most comfortable is likely to provide you with the best service and become your favorite.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns yes, my rifles were tuned by my late gunsmith. Yes he unfortunately passed. A good friend, excellent gunsmith. Thank you for replying.
Isn't that Browning 52 rifle a beautiful piece! The others too,...all of which I have not heard of before now! Thank you very much for bringing us this video.
Some fine rifles on the display table. The MAS45 looks like a .22 on steroids, as you said, very well engineered and looks like it is of a larger caliber at first glance. Cheers Mike.
Good way to put it - that action does look like a .22 Hornet or something. I wonder if there was a center fire adaptation - beautifully made action and rifle - although this one has seen much use.
Best would be a sporting mini original Mauser,a gem,some of the Brno models copied it but the quality can´t be copied nowadays unless you g to very expensive custom jobs. Congratulations for your excellent videos.
You don’t bore us with history- that’s why we click on your videos- cool guns are cool because of history and those who made them and used them. If we wouldn’t want to hear the stories- we would watch new guns reviews and manufacturers videos. Please don’t hesitate to share cool bits about the guns you filming, we can watch a 20-25 min video! If anything- I feel like you make them too short after mentioning interesting stuff that I would forget to google... just let it flow.
The original Winchester model 52 sporting rifles are certainly some of the nicest looking and handling .22's. Depending on whether you have a model 52 sporter, or a 52A, 52B, or 52C model; all made between 1936 and except for a break during the war, the last were made in the early 60's. Prices normally range between $2500-$5000 depending on model and condition. The model 52 originates to 1919 with the early models considered "target" models with heavy barrels. I have a 1st year model in excellent shape that is a fine shooter, looks a lot like a '06 springfield until you see the bore. The 52's dominated small bore competition for more than a decade after WW1 so many in Europe started to develop some excellent rifles of their own, especially Germany. I have an ES-350 Mauser from the mid 30's, mini mauser action, single shot, heavy barrel, beautiful walnut stock etc. that was quite a shooter(and still is), but at $3500-$4500. a little steep. You certainly have many very interesting and beautiful rifles and of course that always leads to great discussion on a subject all of us here love! Sorry for the rambling, we're on limited social interaction here in Virginia Beach. A+ channel!
Hi Steven - thank you for the history - there is much I don't know. I've handled the 52s that look like Springfields - as you describe - fantastic rifle and I just don't find them for sale. Once in awhile there is something in a 52 listed on line and then I scroll down and it is sold. People know. Your ES-350 Mauser is superb and reminds me of the Zephyr for some reason - must be the lines. Anyway - they are worth every penny - there is less and less worth buying these days. Please write anytime - always welcome. I wish you and yours health and happiness. Stay safe my friend.
Nice video. I also like the reproduction Model 52's. I have had 3, all Browning versions. I sold one and still own 2. Great rifles. Can be quite accurate, I used mine in the sporter class of the USBR Nationals match in Alabama I believe in 2011. Took a trophy with it. So they can be great. I also have a MAS 45, that was new old stock and you are also very correct in the quality of that rifle. As it is not possible to mount a scope easily, I have not done much with it other than remove the rear sight in preparation of installation of scope mounts. But the action closes like a quality safe. Heavy yes, but accurate well beyond what one would expect.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I probably do on these two examples, yes. But I have never seen some of the others in your video and am a very big fan of the 22Rimfire. I have shot it over 50 years now. As for the excellent shot thing, it turns out that a LOT of the results you get are affected more than most think with the ammo you choose. $20USD a box stuff is what one needs to compete in matches and certainly in National level matches. Bulls eye is 0.100" dia and one or two 8's will put you into the also ran category... But great fun and really good friends made at these matches... Keep up the good work. Loved that video.
The Winchester 52 is great,mad are some Kimber bolt actions, and Ruger's 77/22. As good as they are I'm still left handed and that being the case there's nothing better than my CZ 452. I'm so fortunate to own one. It complements my Left hand Ruger Hawkeye rifles and my leverguns, and single shots. Being a lefty handed one needs to be thankful because we have such narrow of selections.
Hi Aaron - There should be more "reversible" bolt actions on the market. It isn't difficult - then the shooter can move the bolt handle left or right as needed. The CZ is a gem no matter what though.
One of the few gun collectors on TH-cam who knows how to inform and entertain with old world manners ,thank you as you represent to me how we should communicate without offensive mannerisms ,Respect thanks.
John Ryan well said
Hear, hear.
Well damn... Darn it the... You stole my thunder. Somehow this popped up on my feed so I watched it I couldn't agree more with you don't even know the gentleman's name at this point... I might add he's the type of guy that you would enjoy going hunting or shooting going to the range... So calm and collected probably don't have to worry about any accidents at the range with this gentleman. Most of you know what I'm talking about. Most of these gun the firearm channels the guys sound like they drank two pots of coffee before doing the video. Anyway I get done here I'm going to subscribe
Usually, a good gun begins from a good, governement specified cartridge. All these full-sized .22 guns are a wonderful excepcion of all limitions, as the. 22 l.r. is forever. Born to live.
Yes. This should be a gentleman's hobby.
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Beautiful collection as always. Though some of us might argue that the best .22 is always going to be the first one we had the opportunity to call our own.
Roger 10/22 here. Got it in 7th grade, I'm 46 now..
Max Nameless: Your comment made me think fondly of my very first .22. It was a Marlin bolt action single shot that by Dad gave me for my 10th birthday. The ejected case drops down into a tube that runs under the barrel and slides out when you tip the muzzle down a bit. I still have that rifle 63 years later.
Max Nameless I still have my first, a Ruger 10/22. The best .22 ever!
@Hunt or Die same mine was a 1986 marlin model 60 I got in 2013 when I was 7 still have it it's a very fun gun I keep it sighted and cleaned and everything
@@KA-om9oz My first was a 10/22 carbine. Still in my collection but about time for a barrel change.
Thanks for another great video. When it comes to vintage 22's we love the CZs here in the UK.
very popular in australia aswell quality products cz
As someone who was born in Oz and raised between the UK and Oz I second all of your testimony on the popularity of czs. Great rifles all round.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I have one .22 brno
Cz or Brno?
Love the CZ
Loved my dads ww2 souvenir - a Walther single shot 22 training rifle. Solid as a rock. Beautiful walnut stock. Twas like a baby mouser.
One of my personal favorites for a 22lr is a Ruger 77/22, solid and accurate, had a friend that had a case 'let go' and detonate the top round in the magazine, the only damage (other than the 'code brown' downstairs) was a crack in the plastic plate on the front of the magazine, but still works fine. The loose mount might be in part due to the difference in specs between US and Euro dovetails, something we see very often here in Australia.
When I was in high school and college, I shot smallbore rifle competitively. The club I belonged to had a collection of Winchester Model 52 heavy barrels. Everything was worn-in to perfection - the actions were just butter-smooth. Wonderful guns.
I never fail to learn something from your every episode. Thanks for the interesting content.
I'm so glad Paul - notes such as yours help me.
Great video, “as usual”. I cannot express how enjoyable your videos are and how much I learn from them. Keep them coming.
Thank you Rick. Thank you for being here and your kind words. I'll keep going.
My quest for holy grail for a sporter 22’s .....Kimber (NY +Oregon), Remington 541, Winchester 52 ( reproduction), Winchester 69, and then Anschutz. I feel that Anschutz was the best choice for me and there are choices within the Anschutz line up to pick from.The Anschutz 1712/1710/1700 featherweight are great choices. They have great triggers, single and two stage, easy to adjust. A steel magazine. Receivers are dovetailed as well as drilled and tapped for scope bases, this gives a greater range for scope placement.Bolt handle is swept back, later models have a removable knob, allowing an aftermarket larger knob to be installed. The factory knob is large enough for an adult from the factory. The stock(s) have a high enough comb to allow the scope to be mounted at a reasonable height, giving the shooter good cheek weld for offhand shooting. These models have great balance, likely due to to the barrel weight/barrel contour and stock style. The only two negatives are, the wing safety can be awkward and the magazine release can be difficult to work. Both of these have solutions, Anschutz makes an extended mag release and later models have done away with the wing safety and now have a sliding safety. The example I have, a 1712, is extremely accurate for a sporter rifle.
Sadly I did not keep the rifles I progressed through until I landed on the Anschutz 1712.
My honorable mention goes to Winchester 52 Sporter..............I really liked the 52 Winchester sporter, it bluing was beautiful, the stock nicely finished. It’s stock and bolt handle configuration proved to be an obstacle I could not over come. The bolt handle, was made to exact dimensions from the original run. I believe that it was not made to clear today’s large 1” diameter scopes with their large objective lenses. This forced me to mount the scope to high, to clear the bolt handle, then I could not get a good cheek weld. I noticed the 52 Sporter in the video had a high mounted scope.
Good luck in your quest.
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I’m sort of a Military Training Rifle collector. I picked up an Excellent condition MAS 45 off of GunBroker about a year ago. It’s one of the best shooting and well made .22 rifles that I own. A little history on the rifle. At the end of WW2, the French army “occupied” Oberndorf, Germany. The original Mauser factory was located there. After the war, for a short time, the French produced the MAS 45 there and sent them back to France as training rifles for the French Army. Then the French decided to move all of Mauser’s machinery back to Saint Etienne, France, where they produced about 50,000 of them before ceasing
Hi Mark - very useful information - Mauser made such great firearms. I didn't know the machinery was moved to France. At one time I had a Mauser action - I think "Brevex" - which was made in France - quite a big action. People used them for African cartridges for awhile.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I collected WWII training rifles and my understanding on the MAS45 is at least some used KKW german made barreled actions intended for German trainers. After the war the French took these and made the stocks for them. The original KKW's were made by Mauser, Walther and Gustloff. They were the closest trainers "looks wise" to the K98's. Take a look at Simpson Ltd. collection.
I'm not much of a bolt .22 guy, but I very much enjoyed seeing that .22 Short French piece at the end. The only bolt .22 I own is an older Marlin magnum variety, and it is another sweet shooter. My wife likes it so much that she staked claim to it. Cannot argue against that... so it is hers. Just happy she likes to shoot.
Another great video, thank you. My best 22LR? Hard to go past the Brno Model 1 and/or 2, and possibly the CZ 455 for interchangeable barrels. Thanks again from Australia.
Hi Pete - I can't disagree - incredibly fine rifles - the Brno's - all the best to you; be healthy; take care.
Thanks for showing us these interesting 22 rifles. I couldn't help being drawn to the MAS 45. I have never seen a Mauser 22 before. That safety jumped out to me. I look forward to more like these.
My first hardcore introduction to .22lr came when I was ten in 1964 and My career Army Dad enrolled me in an NRA Juniors program facilitated by The Army. The Army provided the rifles and the indoor range. Range to target was 50 ft. The target's bullseye was .22 in diameter. Cutting the ten ring was a bullseye and how sweet it was when your bullseye was dead center and ate the ten ring out. 5 spot targets 50pt. max score for sheet. As I recall the rifles were Winchesters and as I recall, they, or else my high school target rifle, were model 52.. They were heavy barreled, heavy stocks....heavy everything! As I recall the rifle weighed around 18 pounds. The rifle didn't even vibrate when you shot. Olympic styled sights with rear peep and front circle. The sights were calibrated for fifty feet and if you perfectly covered the entire "black" of the target, your round would be centered on the bulls eye. The program progressed starting in the prone position, then cross legged sitting followed by kneeling and finally offhand. Once You grew in proficiency and scoring you progressed to the next position and got a medal for the one you just finished...can't remember, but I think the medals were like marksman, pro marksman, marksman 1st class and standing was sharpshooter. The Standing medal had ten levels...or bars...and once you reached the highest level you got the expert medal. The guns, instruction, equipment (shooting jackets, claw type military slings etc) and safety, safety, safety! Dad got transferred after I had earned bar nine...but I would have gotten that expert medal. I still have the other medals packed away somewhere. I later shot on our High School (Also a DOD school on base) ROTC rifle team. All that trianing holds me in good stead even today. What a wonderful shooting experience, and one that I wish was offered to more youths today. One thing that really sticks in my mind was how hard the off hand position was for a ten-eleven year old. Man holding that heavy heavy rifle with my left elbow tucked into my rib cage and my right elbow almost up into my right armpit, peering through the sights and trying to time your shot as the front circle was drifting across the black....really really tough!
Sorry this was so long!
Wonderful note - thank you! I know those rifles : ) So heavy - amazing you handled shooting them! I like the way you describe the "drift" across the target. I know exactly what you mean. When it looked like I had Parkinson's Disease the tremor in my hands and arms was so bad I also used the "drift" method - and pulled the trigger at what looked like the right moment. Haha! I was amazed how well the brain works - my groupings were fine. I wasn't sure how long I was going to live at the time and was still happy and okay with that - but I thought I'll keep shooting to the last. Anyway, your shooting and memory of it brought a smile and I agree: if only there were a way for our young people to experience things like this. The best of health to you.
Thanks for stirring up some real good junior gun club memories!
John Mort in pleasant Valley New York, did all that for us. Mossberg, I think, target 22s. Four positions, occasionally went to West Point for matches. Denim vests with patches all over. That peepsight picture when you plugged it!
You just accurately described my upbringing at Dow Air Force base in Maine in 1963 on the NRA junior rifle team
Thanks for your reviews.... without all the hype many have. My favorite 22 is a Anschutz 1416 HB (left hand) I shoot left handed due to master eye.
Best 22 i have ever hunted with . No matter what environment i used it in or roughly treated it was always spot on.
Several years ago, got a Remington model 34 bolt action tube fed .22, made 1932-35. Very unique cartridge handling system. That gun could shoot the wings off a fly at 100 feet-LOVE the feel of the gun, the balance, and there sights are incredible. Also, love the finger grooves in the forearm. My kids are already fighting over it and I'm not dead yet. Yesterday at an auction got a slightly newer Remington 512. No finger grooves, slightly more robust stock, hard rubber butt plate instead of steel, but with a bit of cleaning and a little oil, same sights and spot on target-another winner!
I am a fan of your videos, always informative and well presented. As a child in the early 50s Dad, my brother and I would shoot jackrabbits and sell them as mink food. They would bring as much as 25 cents apiece. We used a Mauser 22. It was as single shot that appeared to be a miniature 98 that had been sporterized. It had a plain stock, probably walnut with a Schnabel fore end. It had a tangent rear sight and a barleycorn front. It was very very accurate. The rear end of the old Dodge would dip down with the weight of the jacks on a good afternoon.
Thanks for sharing - that Mauser .22 would be worth quite a few loads of jack rabbits these days. : ) Great memory. I still have one of those Mauser .22s
Thank you for a laid-back and informative video, enjoyed it. I purchased a Marlin 881 bolt-action .22 in 1994; it has the 'JM' (John Marlin) inscription on the barrel which- you probably already know - denotes the original Marlin company. It has a tubular magazine that holds 17 LR or 21 shorts. It's nothing fancy but I enjoy it. Looking forward to your next video.
My vote is for the Full size Remington 521T with Lyman Peep Sights. My dad bought this gun for me in the early 1950s. It was built like a tank, very reliable and accurate.
Hey from Denmark. Love your channel. Stay safe in these corona times.
Greetings from Brian.
Thanks Brian - you too - please stay healthy. Here is a video people are asking me to circulate : th-cam.com/video/4J0d59dd-qM/w-d-xo.html
I have two of these and I too think these are among the greatest built .22 bolt action rifles ever built. Love’ ‘em!
Thank you for showing those beautiful examples. I had never heard of, or seen any of them before! Thank YOU also for your wonderful sense of humour.
My first experience with your videos. I must say I am impressed with your knowledge, and your delivery. Love learning about firearms I did not know existed!!! Keep up the good work.
This guy is the Professor of guns fantastic and proper demonstration.
Excellent rifle! I used a Winchester M52D heavy barrel when I was shooting for my Army JROTC rifle team in high school for 4 years.
Love your videos. I am 71 and have been shooting my entire life. As a young boy, my father bought me a Daisy BB rifle and I have continued on since then. I still have a Daisy that I bought through the Civilian Marksmanship Program that I use in 10-meter target shooting. I have and have had dozens of 22 caliber rifles and I would be hard-pressed to pick one as my favorite, which of your children do you love the most LOL.
Love my Remington 541-T. Great video and very informative.
I have a 541-T that I bought about 30 years ago, and it has extra nice figure in the walnut -- will never sell that one.
I bought one of these in the mid 80’s. Has always been one of m favorite. The only problem is it’s weight, ran across one about 6 months ago and could not justify the price for the condition it was in
They're in high demand - a lot of memories with those fine .22s
My Favorite 22 Bolt Action Rifle is My Old Remington Model 514 Single Shot With Weaver Scope on an Old School See Thru Scope Base So You Can Also Use The Buckhorn Sight and Front Sight Is Brass Bead 😎😊 I Never Seem To Miss When I’m Shooting It 😀
I already have one of the most coveted .22 LR rifles of them all, the Marlin 39A, but if I were to get another .22 LR rifle currently being made and not have to worry about price, it would be the Ruger 77/22.
I went to high school with a guy who had one back in the mid-1980s, and we both talked about our respective rifles with each other, almost as if they were our kids.
I agree - the 39A is superb and the 77/22 is definitely one of the best.
Bought my 77/22 in 1984. The ammo that it liked best was discontinued. Still getting sub MOA groups with Federal product #510 of all things.
I have 2 Ruger 77/22's that both shoot sub MOA with almost any type of .22 LR ammunition. Very accurate rifles. Some of my favorites.
@@dococc5480 Lucky dude.
They're not cheap!
The original Steyr Zephyr is really nice. The Zephyr II is nice for a modern rifle with some shortcuts here and there. Love these videos!
Hi Robert! I wish I had a Zephyr - I just can't find one : ) Hope you have at least one - I was offered and was thinking about it and then it was gone.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have the Zephyr II-It's amazing!
Thank you for allowing us to see your rifles. Brought back lots of memories of a single shot 22 from back in my Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn days.
Thank you - my privilege - glad you are here. So many interesting .22s : )
I get my BSW shotgun today and should join your Patreon page to discuss it.So few understand these ancient old guns and it is refreshing to find someone that like these guns like I do.I regret selling my old SImson 22 now.
Thanks for showing these rifles. Some unique features on European rifles. I use to shoot alot of .22 short in my single shot rifle but that was back when .22 short cost less than .22 long or long rifle.
You're most welcome!
The Sako .22 from the 70's was by far and away the best one I have ever owned.
Awesome rifle - so great : they had to discontinue it.
In high school I shot on a private city team small bore. We traved and shot against other towns always fun. I shot a win. 52 d with a thumb hole stock all set up for target shooting and my squirrel rifle was a anshutz mod 184 which I still have, my Dad bought it for me on my 16 th birthday excellent rifle.
Nice to see all the different types of 22`s. THANKS for the nice video.😊😊😊😊
First thing I do every morning is take a shower eat breakfast and watch USOG videos , what a way to start the day.
I never comment on youtube videos, but this is the most quality video ever. Strictly your opinion, while acknowledging everyone else's. I've been looking for a new 22 and did some googling and came across your video and just wanted you to know sir, this is a GREAT video. Subscribed
Thank you Adam - I appreciate your kind words so much. Take care and I'm happy you subscribed.
I grew up with a Mossberg model 46. This is a really neat .22 rifle (short, long, and LR). It has a walnut stock and blued steel barrel and receiver. What's really interesting is the three sights; a click adjustable rear peep target sight that can swing out of the way so one can use the barrel mounted rear sight, which is also adjustable. The front sight is unique with three "flip-up" type apertures. I was recently told that this rifle was called the Future Farmers of America rifle because various organizations would purchase these rifles for youth training. The 46 was "upgraded" later with the model 146 which had the same basic features. I can't pass up these rifles whenever I see one for sale.
Hi Ralph - Simply excellent rifles - plenty of collectors look for them - including me. Some have loose front sights and the various blades spin and flop around - I use rubber armored needle nose pliers to tighten - and then they're like new. I like the post with the flat ball on top - rarely miss with that sight. Good on you for detecting a classic. Take good care.
Oh my now I should get into this.. Not because I own a Win . Model 52 or a Remington 40 XB but because both are very well proven and have become the standard of excellence..
I do own the Remington 513 T Matchmaster which is not the same as the famous 40 XB but extremely accurate with fit , function and form.. Over the years I have had the pleasure of firing a Kimber .22 bolt action rifle which was flawless in performance and quality.. Just my opinion on the mix.. Very well done on your part.. Anshuliz .22 rifle I have seen one and it was of excellent quality too..
The 513 is a gem and so is the Kimber - but to find one! My goodness people just don't sell. Thanks for the note.
One cannot have too many 22 rifles. I love them all and am always looking for yet another one! Thank you for a wonderful video, Sir!
I agree Ron! The most shootable powder burners - love those .22s. All the best to you!
All fine firearms........my personal favorite is a CZ 452 Lux in my experience personal favorites are completely subjective whether its firearms , motorcycles, music or women...........
That said, A MAN AFTER MY OWN KIND.
CZ's have some of the best barrels on the market
Military Trainer 452 imho
I have a Winchester Mod. 131 that I like a lot. Mauser style bolt I believe. Always have a soft spot for Winchesters as my first 22 was a youth single shot in the mid fifties, then a model 94 in 30-30, then a Model 70 .243. My Dad had a Winchester (mod 64 I believe pre WWII) as I grew up. Then the company started dialing back in quality as it changed ownership over the following years. Still remember Christmas mornings first at seven when I got my 22 then at twelve when the 30-30 was under the tree with a box of Super X. Doesn't get much better for a country kid. Take care. Doug
Great job,My 52 was made in 1924, my 1922 m1 Springfield Armory non modified haven’t figured out the year it was made,has a sweet trigger.
What a unique 22 rifle. I forget other than it was French and it had the clip or magazine. The 22 short semi-auto. I would have not known that was a semi-auto unless you point it out sir... I enjoyed all of the guys but that was especially cool and something I've never seen before. I don't know why you don't have about 500,000 subscribers. Godspeed and getting there. About one minute into the video I knew I was going to subscribe
I have a very early lithgow. My dad's rifle probably around the time of your one. The engineering is beautiful and it's still a nail driver. Thank you for this. Cheers.
Another gem - these are becoming so hard to find.
Great guns and choices, but I have to go with the CZ-452 as my choice for best .22 bolt action of all-time. Smooth action, accurate, nice trigger, huge variety, and old school quality is what makes it my selection for the best .22 bolt.
When it comes to free-floating or not it all depends on how the gun was designed. There are some guns that like having a free-floating barrel and in others doing that will destroy their accuracy.
With regard as to what to look for in collecting firearms the first question I think that people need to ask themselves is if they plan on shooting and/or hunting with that gun. If they do then they can plan on going for something that isn't on the high-end of the condition scale and go for something that can be shot without loss of value. For example a person may want to get a Pre-64 Model 70 Super Grade in 375 H&H for their dream elk and moose hunt. As such a new in box Pre-64 Model 70 Super Grade in 375 H&H that hasn't been shot since being sighted in at the factory is probably not the way to go. Instead, going for one that has seen actual use is the better choice. On the other hand if a person is looking for a gun to show people and/or be an investment the NIB one is probably right up their alley.
Anyhow, stay safe and thank you for a wonderful video.
Thank you for an excellent comment.
Yes I concur. Not that I know that much about collecting guns. I know the model 70 you speak of. But when it comes to cars. I've probably owned a half a dozen in my lifetime I wish I would have just got it out to drive it parades on the 4th of July. Having said that thoroughly enjoyed driving them like they're meant to be
Never owned a CZ firearm what's a good price to pay for one of those 22 long rifle. I do know about their reputation. As far as new 22 long rifle bolt action goes my understanding is they don't have any peers
Fine rifles , love my .22's and have 12 or 14 . There all favorites , a few of my finer examples are my Voere open bolt and my MAS 45 . Mine is in near new old stock condition and looks pretty much perfect in every way . I've had it some 40 years and don't remember ever shooting it . Stock is a light color and looks awesome . Pretty impressive rifle .
I Just found your channel. It showed up on Google news feed. You have been on here 8 yrs. And this is the first time I recall seeing your channel. I subscribed. Great content. Thank you
Hi Pie Man - thanks for being here.
I have no experience with the Model 52 but over ten years ago I got my hands on a MAS 45 for $40.00 It was missing the magazine and butt plate, the whole toe section of the butt stock had broken off as well as a sizeable piece of wood behind the tang. I repaired it with Acra-glass and a Dremel tool, then bought the mag and a generic plastic butt plate at the next gun show. It shot like a house on fire too but not better than my CZ 452 Lux -- which I also sold when times got tough. I wish I had it back because it performed equally well at the range and in the gopher patch.
I am so glad I stumbled across your channel. Your Gevarm made me think of my beautiful little Remington 241 semiauto. It is .22 Short only and loads through the buttstock. I have had it since the early 1970's. I can not vouch for how it shoots as it is one of the very, very few firearms that I have never fired - not by design, it just happened that way. I was told that the 241 was the inspiration for Browning's .22 semiautomatic rifle, but the 241's receiver has parallel lines instead of the taper of the Browning. I actually owned a Browning for a couple days, but it was defective and I had to return it; sadly I never got another one. I still have the 241, though.
Hi Michael - that is a valuable rifle - especially in .22 Short. I had a Remington 241 as well and something was different about it - I think it was some kind of different .22 rimfire - but I could be remembering wrong - so well made and wonderful to own though. Thanks for the note.
Just discovered your videos and I have to say that they are very pleasant and informative. Keep them coming! Just subscribed!
I bought a MAS 45 rifle years ago when they were about $120.00 (US). Mine was pristine. I have also owned 4 Winchester 52's. My last Win 52 had a E prefix on the serial number and it was a target model new in the box. I was exited to find out that after reading the NRA article about 52's, that there were only 275 of them made after mine when they ceased production. They are both very fine rifles. One comment I will say about both of them is they have bolts that are larger in diameter than most .22 BA rifles. My personal faves are the Win. 52, Rem 37, Rem 40X, Hammerli Free Rifle, and the BSA Internal Match MK 4, And some of the CZ's. They are all precision rifles. I know there are others, but this is just my opinion.
I have the luxury of being able to switch off between the Miroku/Winchester 52B, and a beautifully sporterized US Model 1922 M1, at present wearing a Lyman Parma Center 8X with adjustable objective, in Redfield rings and base. Adjustable trigger, subdued maple stock with Neidner butt plate, ebony grip cap and fore end tip. I checkered it up with a conservative point pattern, and it's about a toss up between which of the two is the more accurate. On any given day, more likely the difference can be attributed to my coffee intake prior to getting to the bench. If you get the opportunity, you MUST handle and shoot one of the Springfield's!
Those Winchester/Browning 52s are beauties. If they still made them they’d probably cost $1,100.
Love the videos. I have alot of 22s . Love the Kimber 82.
Mossberg 44 ..22 trainer is the best 22 bolt action for hunting squirrel.....I didn't say prettest
Didn't say most expensive....best for knocking around woods with..not staring at.
I agree - superb .22 - I had one. The one we hunt with that is accurate and works - that is the best one.
I have a VERY NICE Mossberg 44B-B I would say in 95+% condition. The bolt handle is BEAUTIFUL CASE COLORED, never saw one that way. It is similar to several other Mossberg model 44's but they must be military use because of the cheap rear receiver peep sight and sheet metal front sight. Mine has a Mossberg S33 receiver peep sight looks like a Redfield copy peep and a nice well made HOODED FRONT SIGHT. ITS THE NICEST OLD MOSSBERG I'VE EVER SEEN, most I've ever seen have been WELL USED.😯🤗😁😉👍
I didn’t shoot the Winchester very often and I don’t shoot the MAS very often either . The .22 rifle I shoot the most is a Marlin model 39A with. 16 in. Barrel & skinner peep sight , just a fun little rifle to shoot .
Great review of the model 52. I once owned a Remington 541T very nice exceptionally accurate rifle. I could kick myself for ever selling it.
By far some of the best crafted 22 rimfire bolt action rifles I've seen. I have heard of these before but never really paid them much mind. As always thanks for introducing many of us to another stunning classic! Hit the like and subscribe everybody!
Thank you Alex!
I've had my eye out for a MAS 45 but none have appeared. That Gevarm butt in wood looks like it has two holes where a butt plate was once mounted. Perhaps it was customized for length of pull.
I thought I made a comment on this video before and I mentioned to you that I wanted to get a model 52 but didn’t think I’d ever find one I could afford I just want to let you know that I found one it’s my dream gun 22 and it was very affordable but it’s in very very good condition all original and I am very happy with it to me tomorrow 52 is the number 122 bolt action rifle.
That is just awesome Flint! Congratulations!!!! Buy lottery tickets!
I really enjoy my old ZB-produced ZKM456 from 1958. It has an outstanding trigger and excellent accuracy and it was quite inexpensive. The model is however not all that common had has some odd features for a 22 rather reminiscent of a classic big game rifle..
Love Those 22''s !!!!
I have a MAS 45 that I inherited from my dad.
It is in immaculate condition in a blonde wood stock and it is, indeed a tack driver!
I have heard (I could be wrong) that they were used as training rifles for the military.
Hello Hans - Very scarce rifle you have - they are mostly heavily used as military trainers. Fantastic rifle your dad left you!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I prefer older, unusual rifles.
I also have a few of your favorites, 2 Model 100s in 308win, a post '64 rifle and a carbine.
Also have a post '64 Model 88, looking for a carbine, but they're extremely expensive.
My Model 100 rifle won't group for anything (suspect the barrel is shot out) and have been considering having it rebored to 338 Federal, but will have a gunsmith inspect it before I go that route.
Really enjoy your channel.
Have you considered doing a segment on the Winchester Model 97 shotgun?.....have one of those too, as well as an old Remington Sportsman 58 that I've owned since I was 9yrs old.....I'm 63 now!
Old guns for an old guy!
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Don’t know how I’ve missed your recent videos but I agree with you. I’m optimistic about moving forward.
I have a Winchester Model 52 Speed Lock made in 1932 in pristine condition. It came with a Ranger 4x scope but the eye relief is way too short so I mounted a low power scope to shoot at 50 yards. With proper trigger control it will hit the center of a one inch bulls eye. Number one rated 22 in the 1900s.
Looks very much like the Springfield '03 style match .22lr, the gun I have always coveted.
My first rifle was a 52b model with 20x unertil scope set up for 50 ft indoor target shooting something like 48 yrs ago wish I still had it.
I believe I just saw one of those Mas 45's at a gun shop in Maine. I believe it was priced at $349. and it said military training rifle. It was pretty cool looking but I wondered why it was so pricy. Thanks for the great video!
Hi Keith - great find - I'd run to pick that one up. I remember a tag on a ring in a small town pawn shop "Shiny Glass Ring" ...it was a diamond.
"... I didn't say much because I thought well it's probably all correct except that I have a .22 short in my 22 vault" :D I need to emulate your general attitude toward things
I have a Winchester model 52 made in the early 1900’s was my great uncles 👍🏻👍🏻
One of the few - very fortunate; your late uncle knew what to buy!
Wow. That Mas 45 is built like a tank. Thank you for sharing!
Yes indeed - the toughest .22 action I've ever seen.
Nice video. I can see a collector getting all excited over these rifles but the word "best" is situational dependent. Any rifle is the "best" rifle when that's all you have in a SHTF scenario. Urban conflict is close quarters, usually exchanging fire at close range under 50 yards. How do I decide if a .22 rifle is in the "best category"? Hitting golf balls at 40 yards with open sights, free hand.
I'm a bit confused; is your suggestion that a .22 rifle is the best urban conflict rifle for you? Or in general?
The way through WW II. They were issued to the DCM Director of Civilian Marksmanship. May schools bought them for high schools rifle teams. We had 8 in our rifle team program. They were in active use until 1993 when the rifle range was closed that was in the basement of our elementary school. The were given to a local 4-H program. They are still in use. In two years they will be 100 years old.
Can you imagine how many rounds of 22’s that those actions and barrels have shot off.
Swell video and some neat guns. I shot a friends Rem 541T some years back and that was some special rifle. My "best all-time" rimfire rifle always seems to be the one I'm currently shooting. Never fails, I pick a gun from my brace, shoot it and voila!! That's my favorite.
Great comment Marty!
Beautiful collection. I own only one22 bolt rifle, SUHL150, though I don't know if it counts, since it's singleshot.
I like your vlogs, they are the best I believe I’ve seen and heard on utube. I have a Remington 581s that is very well built and I believe one of the best .22lr rifles ever made. Just my opinion. Thank you for your very informative vlogs. I glean much info, so when I go out gun hunting at dealers, pawn shops, etc., I am armed with much more information.
First rifle i ever shoot was a browning 22lr straight pull action very nice firearm
Hi Scott - The original T Bolt Browning straight pull is one of my top five .22s
I’m a little surprised there’s no Ruger M77/22. I just started getting into 22 rim fires. All my other guns are center fire. The 77/22 is built like a full size rifle and handles great. Thank you for another great video
You're right - I have to make a 77/22 video.
Well, There were many sporter type, fine 22 bolt actions, American, German, Austrian, Check's. My dream gun was a Wheatherby XXII, (when I was a KId around late 1960's) Never got one, Can't complain about my Rem 550 or my Marlin 39A and diggest 22 Short for close range doves
You got me interested in adding a 52 Sporter. I had never held one until a couple weeks ago when there were 4 of them at the same auction. One was a Miroku I thought might be in my budget. With 14 seconds left I was in at $961 and someone bumped it $3000 in one bid. The New Haven ones went for $4000-$5500, but I thought the Miroku was a $1300 gun? Maybe the bidder got confused by there being so many and thought he was getting a New Haven-built rifle? At any rate, we did get an apparently unfired 1927 Model 52 Target at a great buy.
There are so many wonderful .22s! I have a pre-A Model 52 made in 1937, a Springfield 1922-2, many Winchesters running from single shots, pumps, lever, bolts, and autos. FN made a single shot bolt action trainer for Israel, for all the world a K98, only about 1,100 made, I am proud to have one. Mossbergs, Remingtons, Anschutz, Savage, the list goes on and on. I buy them as I find them if condition warrants, the prices are usually not bad except for the more highly desired ones, your Model 52 and some others. Go to the Rimfire Central site to learn more that you ever thought there was to know about the common and the exotic.
Great knowledge and collection you have! I'll visit RF Central.
I recently acquired a Winchester 52 (reproduction made in Japan), and I'll have to agree with you that they are amongst the world's best built rimfire rifles, if not "the Best". I also own three Remington 581 models that I customized by replacing the cheezy plastic barrel shroud with steel tubing machined to fit the action and barrel. All three are excellent shooters, with one in particular that has out-shot everything I have run across in .22 (including the Winchester 52). I owned a CZ 452 that is now sold because it just wouldn't keep up with any of my 581's, Most days when I am in the mood, and the wind wants to co-operate, I can regularly and quite consistently shoot into 1/4 of an inch at 50 yards using SK Standard Plus and the little Remington I mentioned. The barrels are not target grade by any means, the stocks are just standard Monte Carlo style, the actions are however very strong and rigidly built with six locking lugs, and the triggers are very crisp with probably the fastest lock time ever incorporated into a .22 rifle. Not fancy rifles, but most that have been taken care of just shoot very well.
The 581s are amazing. Every one I owned was a target rifle dressed like a humble sporter. I like that. I have a 5MM that shoots to one hole - just as yours probably do in .22. Guns level the playing field. A $10,000. rifle may not shoot as well as a $295. military surplus. I've seen it. I'm never surprised. The richest people on earth are not the greatest poets, the best parents, the most learned or kind people - they're just rich. So it is with expensive guns - they're just expensive - in terms of what they can do - that is a different matter.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have always thought of firearms as shoes. The one that fits you the best and is the most comfortable is likely to provide you with the best service and become your favorite.
Love you channel, old man from Arkansas, I have many 22 rimfires
Hello my friend - for every shot I've fired from other things - I must have fired well over a 100 in 22s. Cheers to you in Arkansas
Have a Remington 513 target master that shoots great. Very happy
I have several rifles that are glass bedded, both action, and barrel channel, and they not only very accurate, but very consistent.
You're one of the lucky ones Steve! So few people can find one.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns yes, my rifles were tuned by my late gunsmith. Yes he unfortunately passed. A good friend, excellent gunsmith. Thank you for replying.
Isn't that Browning 52 rifle a beautiful piece! The others too,...all of which I have not heard of before now!
Thank you very much for bringing us this video.
So beautiful Reg! You're most welcome for the video. Take care Reg.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns The next video from you can't come along soon enough too,..especially these days of 'self exile,'..haha! Thumbs up!
Some fine rifles on the display table. The MAS45 looks like a .22 on steroids, as you said, very well engineered and looks like it is of a larger caliber at first glance. Cheers Mike.
Good way to put it - that action does look like a .22 Hornet or something. I wonder if there was a center fire adaptation - beautifully made action and rifle - although this one has seen much use.
I have the 52 and the 75 made by Winchester, love them both, someday they will be my grandkids
Best would be a sporting mini original Mauser,a gem,some of the Brno models copied it but the quality can´t be copied nowadays unless you g to very expensive custom jobs.
Congratulations for your excellent videos.
Love my old 22 Remington Target master single shot bolt action 👍
You don’t bore us with history- that’s why we click on your videos- cool guns are cool because of history and those who made them and used them. If we wouldn’t want to hear the stories- we would watch new guns reviews and manufacturers videos.
Please don’t hesitate to share cool bits about the guns you filming, we can watch a 20-25 min video!
If anything- I feel like you make them too short after mentioning interesting stuff that I would forget to google... just let it flow.
fleghel right on
Thank you! I'll keep going!
Excellent video. I love those magnificent .22's.
Thank you!
The original Winchester model 52 sporting rifles are certainly some of the nicest looking and handling .22's. Depending on whether you have a model 52 sporter, or a 52A, 52B, or 52C model; all made between 1936 and except for a break during the war, the last were made in the early 60's. Prices normally range between $2500-$5000 depending on model and condition. The model 52 originates to 1919 with the early models considered "target" models with heavy barrels. I have a 1st year model in excellent shape that is a fine shooter, looks a lot like a '06 springfield until you see the bore. The 52's dominated small bore competition for more than a decade after WW1 so many in Europe started to develop some excellent rifles of their own, especially Germany. I have an ES-350 Mauser from the mid 30's, mini mauser action, single shot, heavy barrel, beautiful walnut stock etc. that was quite a shooter(and still is), but at $3500-$4500. a little steep. You certainly have many very interesting and beautiful rifles and of course that always leads to great discussion on a subject all of us here love! Sorry for the rambling, we're on limited social interaction here in Virginia Beach. A+ channel!
Hi Steven - thank you for the history - there is much I don't know. I've handled the 52s that look like Springfields - as you describe - fantastic rifle and I just don't find them for sale. Once in awhile there is something in a 52 listed on line and then I scroll down and it is sold. People know. Your ES-350 Mauser is superb and reminds me of the Zephyr for some reason - must be the lines. Anyway - they are worth every penny - there is less and less worth buying these days. Please write anytime - always welcome. I wish you and yours health and happiness. Stay safe my friend.
Nice video. I also like the reproduction Model 52's. I have had 3, all Browning versions. I sold one and still own 2. Great rifles. Can be quite accurate, I used mine in the sporter class of the USBR Nationals match in Alabama I believe in 2011. Took a trophy with it. So they can be great. I also have a MAS 45, that was new old stock and you are also very correct in the quality of that rifle. As it is not possible to mount a scope easily, I have not done much with it other than remove the rear sight in preparation of installation of scope mounts. But the action closes like a quality safe. Heavy yes, but accurate well beyond what one would expect.
Thank you Lionel - you have far more experience than I do - so I'm glad to hear my thoughts are not too far off. You must be an excellent shot.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I probably do on these two examples, yes. But I have never seen some of the others in your video and am a very big fan of the 22Rimfire. I have shot it over 50 years now. As for the excellent shot thing, it turns out that a LOT of the results you get are affected more than most think with the ammo you choose. $20USD a box stuff is what one needs to compete in matches and certainly in National level matches. Bulls eye is 0.100" dia and one or two 8's will put you into the also ran category... But great fun and really good friends made at these matches...
Keep up the good work. Loved that video.
Used to shoot a 52 target in JROTC postal matches, has a record of years of shooting accuracy.
Thanks Tim - I didn't know about those matches. More validation of the 52 : ) such special .22s
The Winchester 52 is great,mad are some Kimber bolt actions, and Ruger's 77/22. As good as they are I'm still left handed and that being the case there's nothing better than my CZ 452. I'm so fortunate to own one. It complements my Left hand Ruger Hawkeye rifles and my leverguns, and single shots. Being a lefty handed one needs to be thankful because we have such narrow of selections.
Hi Aaron - There should be more "reversible" bolt actions on the market. It isn't difficult - then the shooter can move the bolt handle left or right as needed. The CZ is a gem no matter what though.
I am a left handed shooter as well and love my CZ 452 American and 452 Lux both left hand operated and very accurate.