Is It Legal to Mummify Your Cult Leader?
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- Love may have won...just don't serve her meatballs.
CW: Depictions of animal abuse, alcohol abuse, and verbal abuse (footage via Love Has Won).
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Oh I’ve missed you! I’ve been worried because you haven’t posted 🙂 How are you holding up?
I would like to know this too? I worry about my internet older sister
That's very sweet! Like many people I'm questioning who I am and where to best put my time after the last year. The good news is that myself and my team are still extremely passionate about this channel and TH-cam as a medium to share our advocacy. But that also means we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to get things right, and not put out anything half baked on the channel. We're excited to get our fully vaxxed butts back on the road this summer to find new stories and feature new things and get back to the momentum we had pre-THE BAD TIMES. I hope you are also well, I hope everyone is well.
@@AskAMortician Soooo looking forward to more Caitlin!!
@@AskAMortician You are just incredible and help so many people exponentially more than you will ever know. Thank you for everything you do!
@@AskAMortician it's good to have a new video, don't pressure yourself though. Good work as always :)
When ever someone claims to be reincarnated it's almost always someone famous from history.Seems nobody was ever a pig farmer in a former life.
Yeah, because they obviously weren't "common folk". Someone as "incredible" as them must have been someone important.
There was a kid that was a pilot like a young kid like 7or sum but idk the kid could tell you ever part of the plan he was standing next to 🤔
I'm pretty sure I was a chef in my past life. Or just had to do a lot of cooking. Because now I hate it. Why can't we just have food replicators?
@@mikeinkalaoa well I don't think so he was a child like if someone can tell you how to put a plane engine together they have to be some type of genuines you would just have to see the documentary
Lmao, fr, there are about 100k pocahontas reincarnations. She been busy!
“Who started the fire?”
“PELE”
That’s Kauai for you. It seems like every few years some mainlanders try move in and start some shit, and every time the locals respond gloriously.
I was thinking aboud Chad and Lori. Seems like a cult magnet.
A+ to the locals for that witty answer!
I never heard that Hawaii would be a cult magnet, but now that I hear it, sounds right. Cults aught to just stick to Utah if they want to not get broken up by locals. There's no locals to piss off in Utah.
I'm just a more practical cult leader than Hawaiian ones, I guess.
@@wareforcoin5780 there's local in utah. They're called Natives! Peticularly the Piute. White people can take there cults back to Europe.
@@melanieortiz712 To be fair I think they meant the fact that there's an awful lot of empty space in Utah.
“mother god had become mummy god” was hilarious don’t apologize
ba dum tish
Update: The autopsy revealed tha her eyes weren't infact removed but had started liquefying, all charges, the charges of defying the body and child abuse were dropped and there were no traces of cancer in her body at all....according to sources. It was a great misconception on her part or lie it's believed she was killed by great liver damage due to excessive drugs and alcohol use as well as the coloidal silver and malnutrition. Thank you for the video girl, your so wonderful and funny
The child abuse charges too?
They held a 2 year old hostage.
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f Unfortunantly yes, to my understanding
She's two years younger than me, and she's already started a cult and become a creepy mummy. I feel like I've achieved nothing.
th-cam.com/video/LdNZGb5MDKc/w-d-xo.html .,.,.,.
Don't worry you achieved a lot by NOT becoming a cult leader and a creepy mummy
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She's two years older than me, and I'm thinking that I've got a LOT of catching up to do! ('Cause who hasn't wanted their very own cult, right?)
@@neuralmute if you're gonna start a cult, here's a suggestion: a cult that worship teeth with arms and legs
"As a white person from Hawaii, I feel I can speak for the Hawaiian people when I say what they *love* most is a forty-something white lady from the mainland coming over during a pandemic and declaring herself to be their sacred goddess, Pele. They love it. Five stars. "
As a Native Hawaiian from Hawaii, I can agree 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
Ps- Love you Caitlin
Priceless 😂
Yes, yes, yes. If you grow up somewhere your baby brain says "I am from here". Caitlin is Hawaiian.
@@lysanamcmillan7972 I was about to comment practically the same thing.
Being from Hawai'i is not the same as being Hawaiian. It's not like being "Texan" or "Californian." It is an ethnicity, not a word denoting what state you're from.
Wasn't she blue from the colloidal silver by then?
@@blueai5022 say it louder
She'd be seeing God real quick if I ever caught her treating animals like that. People like that are vile.
I'm right there with you!
Typical woke confused people ,sad!
So you care more about the animals than the children she was abusing 🤦🏽♀️… y’all animal people are something special
@@jarricah7920 no one said that and you know it
@@ghostking6700It's implicit
From a quick check for follow up.
COD: alcohol abuse, anorexia and chronic colloidal silver ingestion.
Abuse of Corpse charges dismissed.
I dig the Hawaiian peoples...”Pele did it. Prove us wrong.” 🤣🤣
Hey if white people are going to start appropriating their gods, might as well use it to their advantage.
th-cam.com/video/LdNZGb5MDKc/w-d-xo.html .,.,.,.
Isn't that the standard argument for most religions? God did it, prove me wrong. That sort of thing.
That was genius.
That made me lol:)
Jesus, first incarnation: “Bring me your poor, your sick, your destitute”
Jesus, second incarnation: “I SAID BRING ME CHICKEN, NOT MEATBALLS”
lmao
This comment wins
I mean, to be fair, we've done a lot of fuckshit in the last 2000-odd years. If Jesus became a ragemonster, who's really to blame him?
I love this
@@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose He went berzerk in the temple, toppling the merchant installations once.
I'm watching this HBO documentary as it comes out, and while most of the cult members are young people who could believably be persuaded by a charismatic leader to join, one of them was a mother who brought her children... that was genuinely horrifying and even after Carlson died she's still a member of the cult! The kids are with their grandparents, thank god, but it's like watching aliens or something, the way they talk.
Agree. Just finished watching the 3 part series today. I noticed that even though these folks were *constantly talking and livestreaming, they were just repeating the same (imo, meaningless) words, over and over. Word salad for the enlightened, no substance, just catch phrases. 4D vs 3D world, ascending, the galactics, moving energy, the cabal, divine plan, the matrix, etc. I've noticed that other cults also use unique but empty language. One example is Keith Reniere & Co. in NXIVM. Another is scientology.
My question is, why? What is the purpose? Is it to confuse followers? To appear as enlightened or unique?
@@D.Susan14 I think some of them are genuinely deluded, and believe the shit they say. A few who they interviewed clearly didn't 100% buy in, even if they were enamored with Amy (like the first Father God, also a girl with red hair whose name I don't remember). I think some of them have a chance of escaping the delusion, at the end of the documentary one of them even reconnected with her mother (though she still is pushing this 5D nonsense, but I think in time she may put it behind her).
This is common. You see a lot of parents join cults, their kids are sucked in, the kids leave, the parents stay. As the cult essentially reprograms them not to put their kid first, but the cult/cult leader.
If she was a Lemurian, she definitely wouldn't be holding up a cat by its neck and screaming at it because Lemurians loved all things nature and they are about peace with all beings 🤨
Lemurians didn't exist, lemuria was a theoretical landmass thought up to explain lemurs and primates in India, Madagascar, and Africa before plate tectonics were discovered.
"Who started these fires???" "Pele." oh frick frack that is some SASS.
Ryan started the fire
*starts blasting Billy Joel outside their compound*
starting a bbq, i see?
im dying here :P that was awesome.
ICONIC
That is such a power move, tho
"Who set this house on fire?"
""Pele"
Hahahaha!!! It so was! Fucking brilliant answer, as far as I’m concerned!
Very “F around and find out” response.
@@summersolstice884 "yeah mate, sorry. The plan you are under doesn't cover damages due to divine intervention."
Favourite protest answer of all time!
Hey s'up Megan! :D
I saw the video from her ex-fiance and it was really freaking sad. He said she was a wonderful person before she completely lost her mind (from drug and alchy abuse) and he showed pictures of her younger days when she was a responsible young lady who took care of her family and had a lot of good goals for her future together with him. Stay away from alcohol and drugs, kids. It will ruin your mind. What a waste of a life.
Jokes on you, I don't have a mind
I never give credence to the ex. They're biased. But, the video speaks for itself
I think placing all the blame on alcohol and drugs is potentially reductive. A lot of people struggle with addiction but don't become cult leaders. I'm not a psychologist but it seems pretty obvious that Amy had narcissistic tendencies. That, with probably other undiagnosed mental issues is what caused her to be the way she was.
Drugs and alcohol are the attempt at ESCAPE, not the cause. She had problems before that. She showed classic signs of borderline personality disorder. She was attracted to abusive men. She just up and LEFT her children one day. The sheer fact she kept taking on men in her cult and calling them all 'Father' doesn't spell out 'daddy issues' any better.
If you watch the documentary you can see they all have major abandonment issues and were creating their own realities to cope.
recreational use doesn’t cause addiction
i desperately hope all those animals and children are safe. what a monster, absolutely terrifying how much deprogramming has to be done over this cult
No. They are still insane
you have to admit, carrying around the bones of your saint as your tribe travels from town to town is a pretty vintage hobby for a religion.
Right? We forgetting about reliquaries here? The various disinterred bones of saints? Carried around in shiny metal and glass cases?
Like, they carried the supposed Crucifixion cross to Jerusalem in the crusades because it “still had Jesus’s blood on it.”
@@forkingsandkeys Exactly! The cathedrals and churches of Europe all have “treasuries” full of saint relics (ie body parts) proudly displayed in ornate, bejeweled glass boxes. Plus there are a fair amount of “incorruptibles” on display in chapels dedicated to them (has there already been a video on incorruptibles? I just discovered this channel and haven’t been through the entire backlog). In fact, every Roman Catholic Church must have a saint’s relic (you can’t say Mass without one; something about the fact that in the early days of Roman Christianity, Mass was held in the catacombs of Rome). (Not saying all of this to diss Catholics-I’m a practicing Catholic myself). What these folks did is honestly not so different from that tradition. They probably would have put her in a hermetically sealed diamond encrusted gold and silver box with glass sides if they had had one laying around but they didn’t so they went with Christmas lights and glitter eyeshadow instead, I guess?
This was exactly what I thinking of the one year I went to catholic school (having only ever experienced protestant religion etc) and they were like "we've brought the finger bone of Saint Peter to pray with it's like hella ancient :D"
@@absenttoday7226 omg, I'm just picturing the look on your face! I grew up Catholic, but in an area of the US where Catholics were considered a rather suspect religious minority and I think the Catholic churches toned down a lot of things in order to seem more acceptable to their Protestant neighbors. So, I knew about relics but to me, they were something that you kept hidden somewhere near the altar that nobody ever saw or talked about. I was completely unprepared for the first European cathedral "treasury" I walked into, lol.
@@elisabethmontegna5412 Yeah a lot of my peers there had been in that school from like the very beginning of their education and were gonna go on to Catholic highschools (it was their last year there cause it was like pre-K to 8th grade) so the audience was mostly composed of already baptized and established Catholic teens. I wouldn't put it past them to have forgotten about me the like singular person who didn't grow up around that and hadn't learnt about relics before. I live in Florida so I've certainly grown up around a lot of southern preachers so usually when you enter a Catholic school around here you're doing it because you're Catholic rather than being an outsider in some sense or another so they most likely assumed I was Catholic myself. I'd never expirenced Catholicism in anyway before so a lot of things blew my mind unlike all my peers so I was just sitting their like 👁️👁️ while nobody else is reacting 😂
Imagine raising a child for like 21+ years just for them to end up in a weird cult with an alcoholic wine aunt as leader.
Disappointing would be an understatement.
You’re in a cult, call your dad! #mfm
hey! that's an insult to alcoholic wine aunts
Yeah, you do what you can and just have to kind of hope that they have some common sense.....
I would be so dissapointed and order a mental health, brain damage and IQ tests.
The footage of "Mom" and her followers was tough to watch. I hope that those folks get help someday and I really mean that.
Just came back to watch this again after watching the HBO doc... It's so interesting how they really didn't include any of her abusive unhinged behavior. The whole thing was just... Sad. It's stunning how out of control one hippie with an addiction and mental illness can get if everyone enables it instead of helping her. 😔
If being a rude alcoholic is all it takes, I could have been a God in my 20s 😫
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"...violation of covid quarantine rules"
me: oh so this is RECENT recent
My thoughts exactly 😂
The new era marker. Forget B.C. and A.C., now we have pre-Covid and post-Covid!
@@nekovannox No it's Annus Covidi
@@michealpersicko9531 🤣🤣🤣
@@michealpersicko9531 😭😂😂😅 oh my goodness!!
"if it quacks like a cult" is actually my new favorite line
I remember I paid her for a session 5 years ago when I was younger and more gullible and delusional. For as delusional as I was about things back then I knew something was off with her during the session and I never contacted her again afterwards.
Probably shouldn’t say it was full delusion. I was exploring and creating my world view and understanding back then and dabbled in a lot.
Didn’t get further into it**
I'm so glad that you followed your gut instinct and cut communication with her.
Well now i'm just thinking about duck cults. Waddling around in their little robes and quacking in unison.
I knew I would find someone in the comments that had the save thoughts. I have visions of tiny tambourines.
@@terrirobinson3876 Their ducklings are born covered in saffron, so I think you're on to something.
The Cult of Daffy. I can dig it
You need to see James Veitch's "The One About the Ducks" video 🦆🦆🦆
I will sign up
The second she mentions a white woman claimed she was Pele: "Oooooh, they done fucked up." XD
yet everyone seems perfectly cool with jesus being portrayed as a white dude...
He really shouldn't but the white narritive is too powerful, tbh. Until enough mono-theistics like Christians, Catholics, and the like are willing to recognize the truth.
@@grayreid7392 Well, the truth based on geography. There isn't any real evidence that Jesus existed, no grave, no DNA. In my mind at least.
I heard there is a legend on Hawaii that Pele takes the form of a older white woman asking for booze and smokes, and if you refuse your house will be swept away in the next eruption.
So not totally impossible that she thought it applied to her.
@@historyarmyproductions historical evidence shows Jesus was an actual living person, but its hard to know if he was the "SON OF GOD" as the bible claims.
The fact that self proclaimed “mom” became “mummy” is kind of delicious irony if you ask me lol
Honestly, the fact that she was mummified by her followers is not even the creepiest and most infuriating fact about that whole cult.
The abuse of a corpse charge was likely used to secure an arrest while they gather more evidence on potential other charges.
True
I wouldn't be surprised, they have probably been wanting to get rid of these people for a while now and they finally have something to work with.
You get the gangsters on their taxes.
It’s easier to prosecute simpler crimes, so it’s a good way to pin down individuals awaiting verdict on complex or poorly-defined crimes.
Yea it’s like gangsters and taxes. They couldn’t get Capone on murder and substance dealing so they got his ass on tax stuff
"Gwen...goopeywoopey..."
I fucking died, and no, it wasn't because of colloidal silver.
**spits out coffee **
I'm wheezing
That was very sad what you said at the end about her son not wanting this to continue on in her “honor” .
Someone very dear to me is deep in the grips of a cult for over 8 years now, it’s enraging if I start to think about it.
I actually had a video call with this lady. I was new to spirituality and found myself neck deep in new age crap about 15 years ago. She creeper me out and was a large part of why I got out of the "new age" type of spirituality. There's a interview with a few of her followers on Dr Phil if you want more info
How long was your session and what happened that made it super creepy? I just found out about this lol
Um, Dr. Phil? Like he’s not a cult leader.
It’s funny how she’s called “mother” to her followers. Yet, she abandoned her own 2 children and left them w her immediate family members. (Mother and sisters) Some mom.
The kids were probably better off though :(
well the buddha abandoned his wife and children........just sayin
@@ninamartin1084 i didn’t know that. What a shitty thing to do
@@ninamartin1084 Yeah but she's supposed to be a reincarnation of a smart god.
@@Parisroam to be fair, and to not excuse his actions, in buddhism buddha basically came to the concludion that existing is just experiencing and prolonging suffering and thus the only way to escape this cycle is to effectively cease to exist even down to the soul via purging any and all attachments one has with the world. Which includes the family part. Yeah....
Another thing to take note of is that we are currently seeing this through the eyes of the modern world and not the lens of the times when buddhism is founded by buddha. I myself dont have thr cultral lens to comment on it, so i just want to say to keep a relatively open mind abt it.
Literally just read a new article today and the autopsy showed that she died due to a decline brought on by alcohol abuse, anorexia, and dosing colloidal silver. Also showed she didn't have cancer
i’m screaminggg
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@@spetersen2173 Gosh there is an emoji for everything these days, even colloidal silver poisoning!
Apparently, in addition to having a system full of DILAUDID (strong opiate) and LORTAB! LMAO 🤣 When apparently Mother doesn’t use pharmaceuticals.
Yea u know I was in the hospital for and people like her usually get put on medication and on 1:1’s 😂😂
i just want to mention that i also heard that she wanted to go to the hospital near the end of her life and her followers wouldn’t let her because she made them promise they wouldn’t take her to the hospital
I was on that episode of Dr.Phil in the virtual audience and it was impossible to keep a straight face
I swear mountains attract the most "interesting" people. I don't know why, but they do, no matter which country you're talking about.
They’re usually remote, which makes it a hassle for authorities to get out there. I’d imagine that’s a large draw.
Nah its the views so pretty they drive u mad
I'm understanding Death Stranding a lot more.
The altitude
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As a follow up, "Mummy God" died as a result of 1)anorexia 2) colloidal silver ingestion & 3) alcohol abuse.
That's a shock 😱🤣
@@caroldowning8243 that's a reality
that sounds like a pretty efficient route to live embalming, really
So that was up with her skin color!
@@Vizivirag that's WACIST 😱
"what a horrible way to gain followers! anyway! please like and subscribe!" YOU HAVE ME LAUGHING SO HARD! like the whole video has me laughing "IT WAS PELE!" DUDE 🤣
Well yes, any type of group where the leader or leaders deny you food or sleep is indeed a cult. She had them people pretty intraped mentally to put up with her abusive treatment. I honestly believe they were doing exactly what she said to do with her corpse as a dying wish. I suggest if possible, the people that got arrested to receive counseling to try helping them? I don't know. The whole thing is really crazy.
"Who started these fires!" "Pele!" genuine geniuses.
Ain't no humor like Indigenous humor
@@lowwastehighmelanin How would Hawaiians feel if I was married to a Hawaiian and I preached and blew a shofar on top of a hill and claimed Hawaii is in the region from the ends of the earth from Jerusalem (which it geographically is)?
I am a messianic Jew. I dont consider my beliefs a cult.
@@lowwastehighmelanin truly, lol
Pele acts in mysterious ways!
Nothing usually triggers me but the clip of her grabbing the cat made me fill with rage.
it was certainly distressing to see.
Same. I rescue orphaned kittens. I wanted to tie her up with something electrical, myself, for slinging a cat around by the neck and screaming expletives at its cries.
Made me feel sick actually.
Same
Even if we look at that short clip in the best possible light, she holds a cat in the air, a cat that is not fighting, and yells at it. I have rudely pushed a cat that scratched me. I have yelled when a dog bit me on accident. But it's over in under a second and the animal runs away. And that's the end of it. Dog bites, I yell, dog runs, I let the incident stop.
Thank you for how you handled the complications inherent in the word "cult," as well as the trauma that can arise from losing loved ones to groups like this one. This is a tough topic, but this was handled beautifully.
Ok, I’m rewriting my will. I want to be wrapped in Christmas lights, and I want them on twinkle mode.
I cannot get over how purple she was, especially her face. I've autopsied people who were highlighter yellow with jaundice down to the literal bones, embalmed green and red and grey decomposing remains, and seen faces deep purple with livor from laying funny post mortem, but I have never seen a LIVING person that purple. Gosh.
Really? Then you need to google a man named "Paul Karason". He ingested ALOT of colloidial silver and his skin was permanently turned smurf blue. He lived for many years like that.
Colloidal Silver FTW
@@scorpion07070 yes you are so right! That silver supplement will turn you purple. And I don’t think it’s safe for long turn consumption
Oooh are you a pathologist?
Argyriaaaaa
"Mom is NO on drugs"
Rips a big fat bong RIGHT after.
No on drugs except for HER.
"No on drugs because look at how I turned out"
might be more honest, but, since she is claiming to be a god honesty isn't exactly in the play book.
To be fair, there are many many Americans who say they are against drugs but drink coffee every morning and drink beer every weekend
bUt iTs OrGaNiC xD
Watch the Vice show on Love has Won.
Feeling slightly bad for the people, but absolutely devastated for that cat 😢
Huh.
The cat had no choice in the decision to be there, the cult members all chose it of their own free will.
@@MedusasFeelinSalty Yes, exactly.
She was preserved with Colloidal Silver and they kept wondering why her body kept giving off electric waves. The woman looked like preserved wood before she died. The whole group is nuts and need to be held accountable.
I'm from Hawaii. We've kicked multiple cults off this island but there are more who are good at being secretive. It will be regulated soon. We met Hells angels at the airport when they considered starting a chapter here. It didn't work out for them.
what attracts so many there?? Is it the good weather
@@Lisanightwing312 That is a great question that needs an answer. I am not sure.
If it wasn't for the fact that I *LOVE* the cold & snow (yes I know people you think I'm weird. But I don't care & I embrace & love my 'weirdness' thank you.) I would *TOTALLY* move to Hawaii.
The people there are not only the friendliest people in America I've *EVER* meet. They also have great respect for the environment & animals. Hawaiians are such awesome people! 🌺 🤗
is it as perfect as it looks ?
@@catherinerickard699 It's beautiful and I couldn't imagine myself living anywhere else, but it's definitely not perfect. We have our fair share of crime and corruption. And although it's usually sunny, the weather can be unpredictable. It's also kind of bittersweet for the native Hawaiians seeing as how the kingdom of Hawaii was overthrown and stolen by Britian and America. Nowdays property value here is so high that less and less native Hawaiians are able to afford homes.
Not gonna lie, Amy's backstory for herself is truly the best D&D character creation I have heard in a while.
Sounds so strange for a level 1 Cleric, but we'll go rule of cool
@@haxican6114 - 😂
@@haxican6114 nice
Nah, way too Mary Sue
@@typicallyusual6984 - That's the beauty of a D&D Sue, you can kill their character off. But she took that silver so I'd say she rolled the ones herself 🤷♀️
"WE DO NOT CONDONE DRUG USE IN OUR GROUP"
proceeds to chug half a 26er of smirnoff
Great video, as usual! I just watched the Love Has Won doc on Max. The mental gymnastics people do to let themselves be absorbed into a cult is mindblowing.
So...it's called "Love Has Won" and yet the leader is hateful, abusive, belligerent, and manipulative, among so many other problematic things. Where is this "love"?
They accidentally forgot the love and picked up meatballs instead
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Damn, I’m using that from now on if I feel like being a jerk.
Depends on how you put it. If you read it like "Love has won... For now! But we will come for you, love, more hostile and drunk and higher than ever, and we will kick your fucking understanding, caring and, uuuh, loving ass!", then the name makes sense.
Love is hate, hate is enlightenment, enlightenment is mummy. Duh
It came after she ascended 😂
"Leaving behind her husband, two kids, and her job...as a manager at McDonalds."
Well that explains everything.
th-cam.com/video/LdNZGb5MDKc/w-d-xo.html .,.,.,.
And her mom was doing some strande drugs before she was born.
My thoughts exactly.
Thank goodness she did those children a favor! I’m still sorry they lost their mom...bc, that’s their mom. But CLEARLY she was toxic. I hope her kids can go on to have healthy, productive lives and not have their mother’s “legacy” come anywhere near them.
Just as the Oracle foretold
protesters were not "shouting" at least in the clip at 6:22 they weren't; they were chanting! its an ancient hawaiian form of storytelling and talking to gods
Can you believe this is literally the only good information I could find on the topic of mummifying my cult leader?
Love that they basically just harrassed these dangerous idiots off the island (as they should have). One of the few protesting wins I feel like we've gotten lately.
I wouldn't want those crazy kooks in my backyard neither, but were they really that dangerous? It wasn't like they were killing people like other religions have. They weren't kidnapping folks like other religions have. They were starting wars like other religions have. They should just give these fucks their. Own dominion, like a deserted isle somewhere far from humanity and let them play Jesus or Pele or Cthulu all by them psychotic selves.Amen, the end🤘👹😇🤘
@@scottricci5063 I..would argue that telling people to ingest colloidal silver could, indeed, be dangerous. Much like telling people to ingest Bleach for Covid.
Ya i was super proud of the Hawaiians of handling the problem. Seems like most of the time we just turn a blind eye. Example, masks and vaccines. They are a minority but they're out causing all sorts of problems. Are we out making our opposing and majority voices heard? No. I keep thinking what to do about it but haven't come up with an answer. But the Hawaiians didn't wait. They just took care of it!
@@scottricci5063 yes they were indeed dangerous. While researching them I learned that there are videos of them talking about the ways they punish their childeren. They were very abusive methods. I also saw footage of them abusing one of their members in particular. And a guy who used to be a part of their group was abandoned in the middle of a desert with no food or water. If I remember correctly they stabbed him before they left him there. If that cult were to grow any bigger it would be even more dangerous. And that isn't even mentioning the obvious abuse towards animals we saw footage of in this video.
Hawaii has won!
“The woman’s body found fully decorated in Christmas lights” say what
Part of me finds this hilarious.
The rest of me finds it disturbing.
Imagine being the newscaster reading that in the teleprompter 😂
@@KateCarew was there a video camera for this story
I still wanto know were the lights plugged in? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's sad to see people fall into cults and them not being able to see if what they are being told is a bunch of cow dung.
I truly admire you and appreciate how you tell us about these things. Keep up your terrific presentations.
The moment you said she used to manage a McDonalds I was like "Oh my God it all makes so much sense now. "
"If it walks like a cult, or it quacks like a cult, well it may be a duck but it may also be a cult"
Or a duck cult.
It's truly quackers
@@ametrinemoon Truly a fowl concept
@@merrittanimation7721 Eggsactly. LOL
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"Only the duck can save us!" Oh, sorry. I'm channeling Starkids again. Side note, anyone else seen Firebringer by Starkids? There's a literal duck cult in it!
I love how the native Hawaiian population was rightly offended by her sacrilege and took action, yet most everyone else was pretty chill about her claiming to be a return of the Messiah. Maybe it's because of how often that happens? Don't fuck with Pele, though, her followers represent.
I think it's also because of the difference of power/prominence when comparing the two religions. Hawaiian culture was banned by the colonizers, and many Hawaiians today are working tirelessly to preserve their culture. The same is true for most indigenous cultures/religions. Meanwhile Christianity is the world's largest and most powerful religion, and the one kind of responsible for the destruction of those indigenous cultures in the first place. So ya, there's a big difference between an outsider claiming to be a deity of an indigenous religion at risk of extinction vs someone claiming to be Jesus. It's a bit of a punching up vs punching down situation.
@Hank R. Hill Strickland Propane please tell me you’re joking… know what? Don’t. Stick with your several iterations of poorly mistranslated propaganda and idiot fuel. Baby Jesus and European-Judaean supremacy and all that there nonsense 🙄
@Hank R. Hill Strickland Propane second rate trolling. Not bad but still could use work.
I to fully support assaulting, vandalizing and committing arson against people I don't like. Drop your address Rich. Let's hang out.
@@vidyastuff3509 I don’t endorse violence against anyone. But I will laugh at it happening in an obvious and deserved manner to people that stupid. Play crazy white lady games with the wrong people, win crazy white lady prizes…
Is it illegal to request to be mummified and have a funeral service where my friends and family have the option of making me a ceramonial vase? Like no cult stuff, it's kinda like a FUNeral with a silly mummy theme.
By the way. I'm a big fan of Fundie Fridays with Jen and she just did an update on Love has Won, you should check it out after you've seen this video. Because you think 'can this get weirder?' and yes... yes it can. As always Caitlin, your videos are amazing
"I'm sorry for that joke."
No you're not Caitlin, nor should you be. That is the level of content we signed on for.
Here to say this, perfect joke,
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A-class top tier joke 😂😂😂💗💗💗
There was a colloidal silver-consuming man in the town where I was raised. I saw him walking out of McDonalds one day. He actually forreal was a bluish grey.
Argyria, caused by accumulation of silver in tissue (silver isn't digestible, it doesn't break down in the body). Not necessarily harmful, silver isn't toxic in normal doses and it's not been recorded as causing death in humans, but deeply unsettling given the resemblance to bloodless corpses and it never goes away.
Some politicians were promoting has a healing for Covid in Brazil.
@@AnnaCN78456 Silver is in some form antibacterial which is why it's associated with healing, like soap it does something to the physical form of the bacteria so there's no risk of developing resistance. It's used in those metal bathroom door handles and in old-timey ointments. I don't think it does anything to viruses but my college micro classes are a long way away. Eating it is like not productive. For some reason I see it recommended a lot for IBS/GI illnesses like crones and it's like the worst idea ever, the last thing you want to be doing is messing up your gut biome.
@@FirstLast-po8oz Hucksters prey on the vulnerable. IBS and Crohn's cause a lot of discomfort and can't be cured, only managed, so they're prime targets for medical frauds because people suffering from those conditions _really, really_ want there to be a solution of some kind.
@@noesunyoutuber7680 @First Last Thanks for that input, you both added very good aspects and I just hope that conversations like this increase over the usual "you'll get better if you don't eat for a week/take silver/gold/sulphur/etc.". People in general tend to avoid the more tedious, preventive/reducive actions and especially when they are not the ones suffering from an chronic illness, like to suggest doing this-one-thing,simple life-hacks that fixes it.
Kind regards, "IBS-suspecting if Chron's".
HBO just released a documentary about this and I remembered watching your video a long time ago!! It shows the police body camera footage of the discovery of her body in the house and once i registered her face I gasped so loud
Revisiting this after watching the documentary is wild.
"we're not a cult" she says, leading the order of the good death (a great cult name if i ever heard one) and calling us her deathlings...lol
But our thoughts/behavior isn't controlled. So not a cult.
@@kuromyou7969 it's a joke
@@camillehenley5238 I know she meant it as a joke. Your comment cane across like you didn't think as such. I apologize for misinterpreting.
It a joke cult. or ust a catchy name
Fans can be cultish. Worshipping mere mortals too. That word is short for fanatics.
Whenever I see someone being so nonchalantly abusive to an animal, it makes me feel cold, these people, they have no soul, they are inhuman.
I couldn't even look at that part. Makes me cry just thinking of it.
not inhuman, but very brainwashed...
Humanly psychotic.
The 3 hour documentary left a good bit of this out.
Thank you so much for the mummy god joke, I needed that
2020 had a LOT of cults nest in Hawaii it was really crazy. Their was another one that bragged about being naked in front of children. They too were escorted off the island. Thank you for covering this. I’m Hawaiian and this really pissed of the locals.
This sounds so terrifying, to be around a cult and not be able to get away from them
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I'm so happy I left the islands in 2016. It seems like it has only gotten crazier since then.
yep, its horrible. Its a lot of rich ‘spiritual’ white people forming new age cults of personalities while driving out the natives and causing prices to jack up.
I never really figured being able to transport 3 large dogs would also prepare me for...mummy transportation. It’s so nice to have options.
Maybe you could take it up as a side gig?
😁🙃😆 Thanks just when you think you've heard it all. LOL
I'm a 74 year old woman who is open to all religions. I think we're all trying to get to the same place, just by taking different routes.
I have made arrangements for my organs to be donated. My body is going to LSU Anatomy Medical in New Orleans Louisiana for the new residents and nurses and medical trainees. Whatever's left will be cremated and not claimed by any of my family. It is all legally documented, notarized, and the whole nine yards in my will.
I personally think that there are 2 waste of space when it comes to land..... golf courses and cemeteries. LOL
I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the amazing work. Sending you love and white light. ❤️⚪️
I am 25 and I have the same plans
Where will your cremains go? If I read it correctly you said "what's left will be cremated and not claimed by any of your family."
I've waited long enough and now I'm rewatching everything once again because I adore you and your channel. I'm grateful for everything you've put out even if you never post again.❤❤
“If it walks like a cult and it quacks like a cult”
My husband “if it quacks like a cult? Well of course, because cults are full of quacks.”
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your husband is funny
@@KamiAva it’s one of the many reasons why I married him 😊
@@SilentSaturn thats sweet🥺🥺🥺 posiflo to you both
I mean... every mainstream religion starts off as a cult... just saying...
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I love Hawaiian mythology/religion, and seeing this mad woman claiming herself to be the reincarnation of a well respected deity in the land just feels upsetting lol. It's like those 2014 FaceBook pages owned by teenagers who believe they're the lovechildren of Jack Frost and **insert another Disney/Pixar character here** pls 😭✋✋
It’s so weird to see someone else I watch watching... someone else I watch. LOL
@Mourad Ben There is no religion associated with Hawaiian gods/goddesses
@@rylans.5365 Christianity isn't a religion its just mythology.
(Edit) indigenous religions are just as valid as any other religion.
The fact that you mentioned Jack Frost 😭😭😭 YOU MADE ME REMEMBER THINGS I HAVE FORGOTTEN
@Mourad Ben I'm not dumb. I'm from Hawaii, I'm Hawaiian, I know what I'm talking about. There is no Hawaiian religion. A lot of people, even non-religious people like me believe in some of the deities like Pele, Ku, Lono, etc.
I remember they left Kauai for Maui first...but when they arrived and said they had no reservations for lodging they were sent away.....lol...
Thank you so much for this, glad i found you! Youve got just the right mix of sass, candor, and brutal honesty feels like we're in the same room love it and your vibe
Lovehaswon is such a wholesome name for a group that would probably hate crime me
Isn't that case for several Christian charities?
I absolutely hate when groups (cough cults) like this try to ride the coattails of human rights organizations when they are actively taking away human rights on a daily basis. *NO*
@@TahtahmesDiary I mean... you wouldn't call terfs real Feminist would you? I assume in every group there's still are people who won't follow the core of their ideals.
Oh yeah. Every group that gets uppity about how much they love you has some issues. The Jehovah’s Witnesses love you. They just want to scream at you until you’re straight enough to go to heaven. Mormons are super accepting of every lifestyle. As long as it’s the very specific lifestyle they condone.
Lmfao that is a pretty accurate way of describing them
‘Goopy Woopy, Their Coming For Your Brand!!!’ is now going to be in my everyday language, thank you for bestowing this sentence upon us.
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5:43 I'm not taking advice from a double ginger wearing a jade necklace on a goddess coming back
Caitlin I'm just watching this video...at 6am. And I can't stop laughing. This story is INSANE!! I've heard about this cult before but o m goodness I love your commentary! Editing is 10/10
"Jesus and Marilyn Monroe would never have to put up with that."
Damn lady how do you keep getting funnier
"Pele has returned" had Pele ever left? Like, in her original Hawai'ian canon?
That's exactly what I was thinking!!
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure she's never left. There's an urban legend that she still appears to people in the form of an old woman asking for cigarettes, so she can't have left.
My understanding is that her home is still the Kīlauea Caldera
Hi someone who was born and grew up in Hawaii (and I'm still here lol but I grew up on O'ahu) I haven't learned of any instances where Pele left in Hawaiian Mythology. But more of how she's still present lol. I'll list some urban legends/things related to her.
On the big island (Hawaii) there's a thing called Pele's curse and it's that anyone who takes something from there would get bad luck until it's returned. Even taking something like a small rock counts. So every year tourists mail back a bunch of things they took from the big island and write letters about the misfortunes that followed them.
2nd one is what I heard from my mom growing up. But the urban legend is that Pele sometimes travels to each island disguised as an old woman in a white dress and asks strangers for help or for a ride. If you help her, she'll also help you out later. An example is her protecting that person. The version I heard was that she put a ring of leaves around the house of the person who helped her before she left. Later that day one of the active volcanoes had lava flow down into that area and all the other houses were destroyed except that house.
Hope this kinda answers your question or was interesting!
Don't call it a comeback. I been here for years.
OK girl ... I watch you because of the brilliant way you make death humorous, but this one had me LOLing alone in my house like a maniac. This video was GOLD! Thank you so much for sharing this delightfully bizarre story. I love it. Five stars. 😆
Removing her eyeballs would, imo, be desecration of a corpse wouldn't it? I can't imagine the stink from a rotting corpse.
The Hawaiian people claiming Pele set the fires mad me lose my crap. I just burst out laughing
It’s really hard to see her being cruel to that cat. 😣
She also locked cult members children in a closet for discipline. Dr. Phil showed it.
Truly nasty. Anyone who's mean to those wondrous fur-babies has no soul.
Also; Kitties have always been known as wise, magickal creatures and ancient Egyptians worshiped them as Deities.
Never piss off Pele nor Bast & Sekhmet!
I know :'( that really hurt my soul
Yeah, me, too. I wanted to smack her for that
@@DenitaArnold I'm amazed this weirdo had a following. I have to wonder about someone who sees a video of a shrieking drunken harpy and her loser jerkass squeeze being jerks to everyone and think, "Wow! How noble and enlightening! I must worship theeeem!".
Thank you so much, Caitlyn, for making this video.
I'm am ADHD and the way you tell these stories has me so captivated 👏 I'm so curious what your ethnicity is? ❤
"Consistent with transporting a mummified body" sounds like not only seats laid down, but obviously in the case of THAT body, glitter. Corpse glitter. That shit's never coming out.
Best Just to burn the car, because your right they'll be finding glitter forever
@@crimsonffire I absolutely loved to "accidentally" put it on my oh, so dignified husband's face, the church ladies were big on that stuff, it was everywhere. My greatest triumph was a tiny glitter star on the end of his nose🤭
@@Mdeaccosta 🤣 oh I love it, I say he loves that, you should check out glitter beards so sparkly
Corpse glitter is the name of my new Deathrock band.
We spilled glitter once when we first moved into our last house, like the very first day, 3 years and 2 moves later and we're still finding it! I think it breeds...
the fact this wasn't even the weirdest part of the last year really says something about 2020/2021
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I didn't even hear about this group in the midst of the 2020-2021 madness 😳
@@llchapman1234 Same! I had to rewind when she mentioned COVID to double check the dates!
not even in the bloody top ten.
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Re calling a cult a cult: I was raised in a cult. So. I'm a fan of calling a spade a spade. But the term "high control group" works too.
I really enjoyed watching this - your tongue in cheek humor and witty comments are awesome
Colorado charging Love Has Won with abusing a corpse feels a bit like when Al Capone got charged with tax evasion.
That's ok Death got her in the end....thats alls that matters...recycling is everything...
@KtheBae i was literally thinking this
"Mom is a NO on drugs!"
Mom: **massive bong rip** Totally **cough** far out, dude...
also alcohol is a drug so, sure Jan
Don't panic, it's organic
17:52 So incredibly weird to see someone genuinely cheering for someone starving and poisoning to death. We underestimate how severely cults and abuse alter the brain