Nick, i was the first to throw 360s in distance contests. Im 70 now. The first year, I didnt advance in two tournaments. The second year i had the longest throw (happened in the semi-finals), beating the world champ. That was my 15 minutes of fame. Then everyone started throwing 360s. I have greatly enjoyed your videos and journey so far. You WILL be better in year two! Hard, thoughtful work pays off. Nailing the timing, the nose angle, and using the wind perfectly takes reps, lots and lots of reps and training, and a bit of luck. Your dedication is impressive.
Wow, that's super neat to hear about Michael! It must've been shocking for those people to see your 360 in action at that time. I appreciate you sharing that story and for the words of encouragement, I'll keep getting after it 🤝
No one said a word, since I used it all the time for Pulls in Ultimate and I played on one of the top 2 teams in the country. What was obvious was the world champ Scott Zimmerman switched to 360. That people noticed and followed. My contribution was dwarfed and forgot by Scott's form change.
I'll tell you how I started the 360. In 1976 Irv Kalb, one of the original Mapplewood HS Ultimate players, and a major promoter of the sport, and a world champion freestylist, tried a 360 spontaneously at an Ultimate practice at Rutgers College. It was awkward, teammates laughed. He tried again, more laughter. He stopped. I, coming from a track and field background, saw the potential. I didn't forget. I worked on the 360 that summer. It was decent, but problematic. I kept at it quietly. By the summer of 77, it was ready for prime time. I used it for distance, MTAs, TRCs, Ultimate pulls and even in disc golf on wide open holes. But it would be another year before I started winning events. BTW I even played with a double spin, like the shot put, discus. It can be done! But not on grass, too inconsistent and a bit risky on the knees.
@@michaelcushman that's wild to hear about how it came about man. It's gotta feel pretty cool to see how it's become the technique of choice for distance world records and how well people like DWJ have refined their technique so well with modern high-speed drivers!
Great work! With how explosive the distance throwing movement is, all the top guys are going to get injuries. I think there's a huge edge in injury management. You're early in your career and have a ton of potential. Manage those injuries well now to minimize long term effects over your career. Your fans will want to see you kick ass for years to come.
I literally had the same finger injury on my index finger from trying out grips to see if wobble or spin or nose angle would be fixed. the rim just stuck with my knuckle and took my finger sideways. missed a tournament because of it too..... really made me work into trying things at lower power first
Hey, I've thrown 632ft once, but am currently throwing about 530 every 7 or so throws. I think i am not doing the ending whip part of the throw correctly. The disc seems to leave my arm about about the same speed as my arm, and with some spin. On the other hand, my friend who throws 498, has a way slower arm, but great spin and the disc is flung from his hand like 30% than his main arm speed. How do I fling the disc better in the latter half of the throw.
I can only speculate without doing a full video analysis of the throw, but it could be some combination of not having a deep pocket and/or over-rotation of the shoulders. I'd try out what Clint demonstrates in this video and see if it helps with that: th-cam.com/video/I8s79dZGAG4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=psSJBUCyDN7CWgTt
@NickKrush.DGandFit I moved my thumb on the power grip from the rim to the plate of the disc, and widened my x step, and just threw 578, this is progress. The video didn't help, though now I think I misdiagnosed what part of the throw was causing the problem in my original comment. Thankyou for your help, it led to me just trying a bunch of stuff till I figured out the problem. I will tell you when I hit 600 again
Nick, i was the first to throw 360s in distance contests. Im 70 now.
The first year, I didnt advance in two tournaments. The second year i had the longest throw (happened in the semi-finals), beating the world champ. That was my 15 minutes of fame. Then everyone started throwing 360s.
I have greatly enjoyed your videos and journey so far.
You WILL be better in year two! Hard, thoughtful work pays off.
Nailing the timing, the nose angle, and using the wind perfectly takes reps, lots and lots of reps and training, and a bit of luck.
Your dedication is impressive.
Wow, that's super neat to hear about Michael! It must've been shocking for those people to see your 360 in action at that time.
I appreciate you sharing that story and for the words of encouragement, I'll keep getting after it 🤝
No one said a word, since I used it all the time for Pulls in Ultimate and I played on one of the top 2 teams in the country.
What was obvious was the world champ Scott Zimmerman switched to 360. That people noticed and followed.
My contribution was dwarfed and forgot by Scott's form change.
@@michaelcushman ahh, I see!
I'll tell you how I started the 360. In 1976 Irv Kalb, one of the original Mapplewood HS Ultimate players, and a major promoter of the sport, and a world champion freestylist, tried a 360 spontaneously at an Ultimate practice at Rutgers College. It was awkward, teammates laughed. He tried again, more laughter. He stopped. I, coming from a track and field background, saw the potential. I didn't forget.
I worked on the 360 that summer. It was decent, but problematic. I kept at it quietly. By the summer of 77, it was ready for prime time. I used it for distance, MTAs, TRCs, Ultimate pulls and even in disc golf on wide open holes.
But it would be another year before I started winning events.
BTW I even played with a double spin, like the shot put, discus. It can be done! But not on grass, too inconsistent and a bit risky on the knees.
@@michaelcushman that's wild to hear about how it came about man. It's gotta feel pretty cool to see how it's become the technique of choice for distance world records and how well people like DWJ have refined their technique so well with modern high-speed drivers!
The most humble superhuman DG has.
@@BlitzDG thank you brother 🤝 trying my best!
Sorry to hear you've had an accumulation of injuries, but happy to hear you've been managing them well. Recovery will make you stronger!
@@NickCarroll thank you for the nice words Nick 🙂 I agree, we’ll be back better than before!
you da man chief
@@IceBergTV 🫡 thank you man!
Great work! With how explosive the distance throwing movement is, all the top guys are going to get injuries. I think there's a huge edge in injury management. You're early in your career and have a ton of potential. Manage those injuries well now to minimize long term effects over your career. Your fans will want to see you kick ass for years to come.
@@MapexNJD thank you! Totally agreed, I gotta prioritize keeping the body healthy and things should go well moving forward 🙂
Hope your bruise heals up man! Thank you for all the coaching and videos
@@artyomzakharov6869 thanks for the nice words and my pleasure!
Really impressive results! It’s not easy to compete while you put out yourself publicly as a coach since it might some add mental pressure.
Thank you friend!
I literally had the same finger injury on my index finger from trying out grips to see if wobble or spin or nose angle would be fixed. the rim just stuck with my knuckle and took my finger sideways. missed a tournament because of it too..... really made me work into trying things at lower power first
Shoot, sorry to hear about that man. Really reinforces how careful we have to be with grip experiments!
Hey, I've thrown 632ft once, but am currently throwing about 530 every 7 or so throws. I think i am not doing the ending whip part of the throw correctly. The disc seems to leave my arm about about the same speed as my arm, and with some spin. On the other hand, my friend who throws 498, has a way slower arm, but great spin and the disc is flung from his hand like 30% than his main arm speed. How do I fling the disc better in the latter half of the throw.
I can only speculate without doing a full video analysis of the throw, but it could be some combination of not having a deep pocket and/or over-rotation of the shoulders.
I'd try out what Clint demonstrates in this video and see if it helps with that:
th-cam.com/video/I8s79dZGAG4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=psSJBUCyDN7CWgTt
@NickKrush.DGandFit i have watched the video and will try it and give you an update
@NickKrush.DGandFit I moved my thumb on the power grip from the rim to the plate of the disc, and widened my x step, and just threw 578, this is progress. The video didn't help, though now I think I misdiagnosed what part of the throw was causing the problem in my original comment. Thankyou for your help, it led to me just trying a bunch of stuff till I figured out the problem. I will tell you when I hit 600 again