What I got Wrong About Trails from Zero - Experience Points!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Sometimes I make mistakes, but this time I couldn't be happier about it! And so today, I'm eating my words! Let's talk about the official port of Trails from Zero!
You can point a lot of your praise to Durante and PH3 games for working on the Switch and PC Ports of not only Zero but Azure as well, and probably co-collaborating with geofront both with NISA too. Crossbell has really been a community effort, you love to see it.
That's a name I've heard a lot over the last few weeks, I'll have to check them out!
Right. Guy's done an absolutely phenomenal job on various Trails ports plus Ys8/9. So glad it seems to be a regular thing with the English releases now.
It takes a great person to admit they are wrong. It takes an even greater person to make a whole video talking about how wrong they are 🤣
Well yes maybe the statement was wrong but we can't say that wasn't a happy surprise lol, still the geofront version is really good so I won't blame for thinking that was the limit, whoever the game battle theme isn't called get over the barrier for nothing I guess.
It's cool that PH3 listened to the feedback and added auto text advance in a patch.
The feature I use the most (about once a minute) is the Text Log. I have a problem with reading comprehension, and frequently day dreaming and just clicking through only to realize I have no clue what is going on. With a text heavy series, this feature is a must for me. It made my playthrough of the Sky arc worse for its absence
It's so easy to go on autopilot and immediately forget what you just read 😅
Can relate haha
popped into twitch today! oh sweet everything! thank you.
FYI track names were in the Geofront version but it was an addition added after the fact, so it wasn't there when you played the game. It was included in the last Azure patch IIRC before that went down and it had been added to Zero at the time.
Thanks for the update! Such a rad little addition! :)
Durante’s PH3 helped too! This was the first time they did a console port, and they communicated with Geofront with features and the loc! I love the Switch port!
Trails from Zero (PC) feels like a modern game in a retro style rather than being just an old game. Fantastic work and so much fun.
It really does. I've said wow several times already playing
To be fair the vanilla game aged way better than Sky (and I mean no offense as Sky is still my favorite arc) for more modernized gameplay systems and "level" design, the localization is just a step ahead and one that broke all barriers in it's way.
@@gekisage7448 Ya the changes to combat with orbments in Zero and Azure (Master quartz in particular) did make the games a lot more fun...and when it comes down to it I preferred the orbment systems of Sky to Azure more than the orbment systems of Cold Steel 1 to 4 (probably Reverie as well...not sure how Kuro handles it so I'll see there I guess) and the grid turn based combat battlefield more so than the non grid turn based combat system of the CS games (Kuro I may like more than either due to being able to mix in action combat and turn based combat as I wish and I lean more towards liking action rpgs a bit more than turn based if I'm gonna be honest...Trails is only my second favorite series after Tales due to the story, in particular how they execute the story well with how they connect each games, easily being the best in gaming imo mainly due to how each games directly connect their plots to the next game (individually they wouldn't be too amazing and may put the series ranking a bit lower but they easily create the most exciting Epic/Saga in video game history...at least for the last few decades (there's almost no other game series that connect their plots together to this degree besides maybe Xenosaga...and there's some issues there due to rushing/cutting stuff out).
Something you didn't mention is that the the framerate is so much higher on this new version on PC and makes the game feel so much smoother and better to play then the old Geofront version. Thats the biggest deal to me.
For me personally the feature I miss the most was the OST toggle. While I think a lot of it is preference, I think the EVO versions of the Crossbell OST had more hits than misses (especially Azure.) So being able to customize your favorites was great.
In particular I remember switching the battle themes to EVO when I got to the final chapter of Azure, which was good for changing things up and making things more epic at the end.
Also Azure Arbitrator Evolution's guitar solo is the most hype thing ever in-game.
That's mainly because the EVO soundtrack isn't entirely owned by Falcom.
I beileve the licensing for the EVO stuff was a real nightmare to work through, it's why the EVO versions of ZERO/AZURE for Vita never came out (I believe Xseed addressed it in a blog post from 2013-2014). The licensing for that is split between Falcom/Kadokawa/Chara-Ani/Pyramid (I THINK, possibly more). it's been a while since i've looked at this info myself so i may be wrong.
A bummer they removed the auto-advance feature, but it's otherwise great to hear that this is the definitive version of the game.
NIS didnt do alot in this - rather the original porting team did most of the work for the graphics enhancements on PC/Switch - NIS just inherited it and modified some txt box sizes to reflect the english language. You can tell this by checking the difference between PC/Switch and the PS4/5 version
Hey Derek there is a full eng patch out for Kuro No kiseki now.
Trails into Reverie (Western release) announced - Summer 2023
Thankfully none of the things you mention matter to me or serve any purpose for my preferences. So I got the PS4 version. The graphical differences are so miniscule that I definitely don't care about that
I was really hoping (like everyone else) to win that Limited Edition, but congrats to yellowstreetlight! Enjoy it!
Durante and PH3 deserve most of the praise, NisA themselves have done a pretty awful job on this release like letting untranslated lines get in that were translated by geofront in their patch.
Also ofc the whole drama of nisa c&d'ing the Zerofield fantranslation group and stalling the series in the west to the point of us being 3 games behind again.
I don't know if you can call what NISA is doing "stalling the series." they're giving us official releases of 3 Trails games plus Nayuta in the time span of a single year. maybe it's not coming fast enough for some people, but now that they've filled in the gap left by past games that were missing in the west, I'm optimistic that future games will come quicker once Reverie releases.
as far as the Zerofield controversy goes, I have no real opinion on that since I never used their translations. it's unfortunate for the people that play the games that way, but it can also be seen as a positive since it's a soft confirmation that NISA will likely be localizing the later games in the future. personally speaking, I'd rather wait for an official western release than play the games using a spreadsheet since it would take away from the experience and make it less enjoyable for me
If someone's stalling the series, it's Falcom themselves for refusing to translate games before japanese launch. They literally don't allow any work be done until after the fact
@@Walamonga1313 More like Falcom refusing giving scripts post game release
I had high expectations for Trails from Zero and it was even better than I thought it would be. I'm glad that Trails to Azure will get a Western release early next year and it will be a day 1 purchase for me, but I'll probably still get impatient during that time because I really want to find out what happens next in the story. Also, congrats to yellowstreetlight on winning that drawing, I hope you enjoy it!
I had no expectations, even though I loved the other Trails games, and it ended up great. It felt like Sky games but better. Teleporting, improved combo attacks, full story in 1 game, less annoying dungeons... I still prefer Cold Steel cause the soundtracks and combat are my favs but I thought Zero was fantastic and I'm excited to play Azure (since so many people say it's even better)
@@Walamonga1313 Zero is to Azure what FC is to SC but like with an even bigger gap imo lol
I only use auto advance when there is an English dub. No English dub is the thing I think is most notably absent. I know there are a lot of gamers who won't buy a game without one. It would of made it a lot easier to just listen to the words instead of having to read them. Falcom agrees which is why they have Japanese audio. If they wanted it to only be read they wouldn't of recorded any. I really think NISA needs to do an free audio DLC for this & azure
This sometimes happens for the Japanese language being added into the game as free DLC I don't recall a single time this has ever happened in reverse I would love it to happen but it is beyond unlikely on the plus side for me I got it on PlayStation 4 so because I don't speak Japanese I just turn the voices off and listen to Spotify while playing
@@ryancraig110 yeah I've never seen it, but I'd even take it as paid DLC at this point if they try to say cost is the issue. The entire cast already have English actors too later in the series I believe so they wouldn't even need to trouble themselves with searching and hiring
@@drowningin that is true but this just reminds me of the situation that happened with BlazBlue centralfiction not the same mind you it was a bit different but this is the only thing that I can think about that is similar
@@drowningin I mean...still costs a lot of time and money and it may not be guaranteed that they'll make back the costs of VA work (especially if you consider some VAs are currently demanding BS high prices (Helena Taylor and Bayonetta) that a small or mid size company may not be able to handle (not really sure where NIS falls in as while they do many jobs their also mostly for a good chunk of more obscure jrpgs that likely don't make big money like say FF, Tales, Dragon Quest, etc...probably mid size though but that'd still not be big enough to give all VAs 100K figures/royalties per copy which some VAs (Taylore) are pushing for)).
If they made a lot more cash than expected for Zero and Ao I can see maybe they'd add it as post launch patches later (likely a year) from now but I wouldn't bet on it anytime soon.
I'm so glad I preordered the special editions of both Zero and Azure... on PS4 😭
I admit, I didn't ever expect an official release to surpass everything from the old fan translation either, such an awesome surprise :D
I tried trails multiple times, fell asleep playing each time I tried.
YS is the only gaming franchise i enjoy from Falcom, the first YS game i played was on SNES with Wanderers of YS.
Start with CS1 or with Zero? And is Zero on Switch different to Playstation? Something in me want this to play through on handheld during Winter.... but it seems that CS1 (and 2) should be the better starting point.
Why is the Nintendo switch version of this game better than a PlayStation 4?? I'm really curious since I only ordered the PlayStation 4
I just mute any kind of japanese voice acting lol it's distracting to me
I'm still having great fun with the ps4 version. But I'm dam jealous of that steelbook. Might have to look into getting that edition for azure
Screw that! I can play the original game on my PSP. The Trails trilogy is my favorite series on my Sony, and I ported my iso files so I can play them on my Vita! Screw Nintenderp and their "Full price for old games" mentality.
lol, It's full-price on PlayStation and PC too.
Trails into Azure limited edition sell out faster than hotcakes.
Trails from Zero has the best story but i also thinks it has one of the more boring gameplays
There is something wrong with your capture card. It has elevated black levels. Black bars which should be completely black, are grey.
Probably a mismatched color range selected. I'll take a look at my console and capture card seeing l settings. Thanks for the heads up!
I hate that I had to buy this digitally. I wanted a physical copy but didn't preorder because I just didn't keep up with it leading up to release. Now I can't find it within 100+ miles of my city. I'm still keeping an eye out for a physical copy but I hate that if I do find it I'm gonna pay a mint for it.
Play-Asia has them physically for MSRP, with English language options. That's the one I picked up.
Edit: Disregard, I thought you were responding to a different video. My bad! >.
Best thing about this. I held off on playing Trails to Azure because right after I finally finished Zero they announced Geofront was being brought onboard for official localizations. I had just grabbed their translation for Azure a few days before. But I decided to wait it out because to me, Crossbell has been the pinnacle, even having not played Azure, because everyone says Azure is so much better than Zero, the best game I've played. I went off on a tangent. But the best part is that they just announced that Trails to Azure releases on March 14 which happens to be my birthday. Yes. Pi Day. Even though I suck at math and never cared much for baked goods. :)
Released on birthday, eh?
Me too when Chrono Cross remaster was released
auto text advance has been brought back in the latest patch
Why wasn't the PS4 version updated along with PC and Switch?
The PS4 version is a port of an older Japanese release. The new Switch and PC versions were made new by NISA
Yeah I will be getting the PC version, the new one.
i am waiting to play it again on switch, i have them on my psvita.
What's missing on the ps4 version?
We are finally getting to there with JRPG text/VN section features. Having played Yuzusoft VNs, going back to JRPG text/VN sections has been *painful*. Yuzusoft has had vocal countdown since, what, the 2010s? Recently they even have global acceleration toggle which includes audio if you want it to. I always kept asking "why isn't this the standard already?" whenever I play their games and hopefully it does become the standard going forward.
Where would the Trails series be without Durante and his crew? Geofront led the way, Durante made it happen.
I do have to say, the Geofront Message Log looked way better than the one we have right now. And yeah, the effect is the same, but when you have the time and want to do something beautiful, you can do that. The function is the same though. xD
Sounds like just get the steam version since it's also on steam deck cause it has the auto scroll and better graphics
Totally. Unless you're into collecting physical games like I am. :)
Finished Trails of Sky First Chapter on PS VITA and almost done with Trails of Zero and I am hooked with the series.
And excited that Trails of Azure would come in March.
One thing that you didn't really address in the video that I'm curious about:
Did they straight up take Geofront's translation and leave it as is (from what you can tell) or did they take the Geo translation as just a starting point and modified the translation a bit so it was left stiff? Haven't played the Geofront fan translation but did play the older Flame fan translation that I think Geo even used as a base for their initial translations (or brought him onto the project too) before CS3 came out (Geofront came out after if I'm right or basically the month before) so outside of trailers haven't really seen the whole Geo translation but 1 criticism I always had was that in their effort to try to translate as much as possible to be as close to the Japanese translation the dialogue for characters were a bit too stiff/using terminology you'd generally never see used by native English speakers today (which should be the goal of bringing a game to a new country/language's audience imo which is why I'm more on the side of localization rather than straight up translations as straight up translations always are more awkward sounding in the long run or at worse become a garbled mess when verbs, nouns, etc are mixed around in the wrong places (usually machine translations will do this or people translations where the person translates the words in the order they come from left to write which for some languages will not work...throw in Japanse/other languages also don't really use pronouns like He/She or plural forms either which also lead to translation issues as well when doing a straight translation without extensive editing)).
I mean yeah Geofront's is still a very good translation, especially for being 100% fan made, and probably the best out of fan mad translations but there's still generally just a few bit things that professional editors do that make games/books/etc read a bit better/more fluidly in their respective native language for the country the product is being localized to. For example the slightly stiffer dialogue due to some phrases/word choices being very dated or the use of stuff like Japanese honorifics which just sound more awkward than anything in English (especially given we generally have our own version of honorifics such as Mr., Mrs, Miss, Dr., etc for strangers and then as far as family go it's just generally Mom, Dad, Grandmom (or grandmother when being a bit more formal or talking about them to strangers/anyone outside of family and friends), Grandpop (or grandfather if being a bit more formal or when talking about them to strangers/anyone outside of family and friends), Uncle, and Aunt. As for brothers, sisters, and cousins we generally don't use any honorifics at all and just use their first names.
If there's anything a bit disappointing with Zero and soon enough Azure it'd be that since these are based off the PC version it will not have the additional quests/CG cutscenes that the Evolution games had on the Vita...which would've made it the actual definitive edition as I generally view the best versions to be the ones with the most content (granted i I'm right there was some issues people had with them but I forget what they were tbh...may have been performance issues or something similar)...and to make sure you know this isn't based off the Vita/Evolution versions those versions of Zero/Azure had the character's portrait mouth's move when they were talking, from all the marketing shown of Zero and Azure so far (I did get zero already from NISA on Switch but haven't started it yet as I already beat it via fan sub and want to focus on games I haven't beaten for the time being) their mouths don't move like the PSP/PC/PS4 Kai versions.
Best aspect of this version, well the Switch version anyway is that I can play it in handheld mode in bed/lying on the couch rather than in a computer chair in front of my TV...been moving towards playing as many games on Switch as possible so this was nice...granted I'm getting Reverie on PS4 only due to having CS3 and 4 on PS4 (well completed playthroughs anyway...could have bought the CS games on Switch too I guess to get the completion save files but like I mentioned before: I want to focus on games i haven't beaten so far...I do play on re-buying all of them that I can on Switch though once the extra cash comes in though and eventually play it again on Switch) and having completed saves for them can affect bonding event flashbacks in Rean's route from what I looked up in various forums and the like so I want to keep that as consistent as possible for all CS related games. As for Kuro and Kuro 2 though as long as they release in the west on Switch at the same time as all other versions (or earlier) I'm getting them on the Switch as all that bonding stuff hopefully doesn't carry over into the new arc like it didn't between Sky and Crossbell and Crossbell and Cold Steel. Same with post Kuro games if they still come to the Switch or the Switch's successor (which will hopefully be a handheld/home hybrid as well).
It was a buzz kill to find out that this game has no English dub.
Story heavy games gotta have that along with auto skip for the conversions
Still bout the game tho
I'll play it when. I finish the first 2 games
First 3 you mean.
@@luminous3558 sure :)
Hats off to them for working with the Geofront team for sure, but what about them telling the other fan translation to stop translating the new games? Seems pretty hypocritical considering from my understanding Geofront was actually changing the game with its patch where as this other team was overlaying an excel file if im not mistaken. Just seems like a very shitty flex by NISA. Wish they just would have worked with this team as well since they are super behind bringing the games west now.
Im so excited to get a 10 dollar Amazon Luna account and play this game! Currently been going through the tails in the sky series first and playing the 3rd one.;
Im going to start with one
I admit Nisa did a great work with the localization and the improvements, as you said, better whan anyone was expecting and it's without a doubt the best version to play in english. However, there is a little nitpick with both the PC and Switch versions. They changed some textures text from the original Japanese versions that makes them inconsistent with other japanese releases or even with Hajimari/Reverie. I know this is not an issue for the english localization, but this is also the official Japanese Switch/PC version and they should have taken a bit more care with what textures they were going to change. They should have maintained 2 sets of textures when text was involved. Geofront also changed those textures as well, so I wonder if the issue here is related to that. The most noticeable are all the references to the CPD which in japanese is CSPD
Also on a more positive note, a plus from this version compared to the Geoffront one that almost no one mentions in their reviews is that there are some extra NPCs related to Cold Steel. This would be more noticeable with Azure when it gets released.
I don't think the changes in textures for the English localization is really a problem. The Switch/PC versions for the English localization are developed by PH3 while the official Japanese Kai versions for Switch/PC of Zero no Kiseki and Ao no Kiseki are developed by Clouded Leopard Entertainment. So that's two different versions of the games created by different developers for their respective audiences.
I don't believe JP players have access to the PH3 versions unless they import the game.
@@AdvisorLorne I think I was wrong with the Switch version, and that one is indeed from Clouded Leopard.
The japanese PC version is the NIS America one.
This is usually a thing with who owns the rights to publish the japanese versions that Falcom doesn't develop.
Besides Hajimari, which for some reason, CLE had the rights for the PC japanese release, every other japanese PC release comes either from NIS America or from XSEED. So the argument is valid here, although a bit nitpicky.
We probably won't get a complete Japanese version of Hajimari from NIS because of this.
Even though the japanese PC market is small, they do get the steam versions from NIS (Cold Steel 3&4, Zero, Azure, Nayuta), XSEED (Cold Steel 1&2) and CLE (Hajimari).
They don't have Trails in the Sky in japanese on steam though, they have to get the old PC versions for that.
@@Natreg44 Man, name a better duo than Falcom and a mess of licenses. We need flow charts for all the different versions of the Crossbell games and who owns the licenses on the work done for them...Joyoland, Kadokawa, CLE, NISA and PH3.
Kinda a shame that a Sky trilogy or CS1-2 collection probably isn't possible for future English console releases as it would involve either XSEED developing them or Falcom/NISA needing to purchase the license for the localization and voice acting from XSEED. I can't imagine that would be financially feasible for them to do as it likely wouldn't sell enough to justify the purchase of licensing like how the Crossbell games didn't get English VA likely due to costs.
@@AdvisorLorne Technically it's possible to get all 3 Sky games and CS 1 and 2 via NISA as well...they'd just need to create a new translation for the game and not use Xseeds though as, more likely than not, Xseed only has the rights to the existing console versions/any that use Xseed's translations.
As for sales it could wind up being an unexpected windfall for Xseed, NISA, and Falcom if Xseed allows NISA to publish the games again on the latest consoles, especially switch, as that would pull in the Switch only users too (which are not a small market anymore) along with people that haven't bought the PC versions or prefer console/physical versions and don't have Vitas/PSPs (well Sky 2 was only on Vita, 3 only on PC officially for the west) not to mention some people that may just want to buy a new version due to losing their old version/old version broke/some other similar reason and don't want to pirate the games. CS 1 and 2 may be harder sells though I won't deny that and the PS4 versions were released in the west as well so they're fairly recent so the only ones not here would be Switch versions...I still think they'd likely make a profit selling them on Switch even if it's not a huge profit.
Imma brokeass so the slight graphical improvements arent worth paying for the game again IMO.
If they included English dubs, Id get it, but they dont so bust. Also I know super weebs dont care about english dubs but they are excellent in trails, and its a damn shame they are missing when thr selling point of the kai remake was voice acting to begin with.
They patched in auto advance including an option to only auto advance voiced text
I'm so glad that they did this. :D
It's an amazing game, and even if you don't own a PC or Switch, don't miss it on PS4, nobody that loves a good RPG should pass on this incredible gem, that bridges the Trails in the Sky and Cold Steel story arcs.
My original comment on your review was me saying that I was gonna hold out for an official release. For the first time in my life I was right. Do I have power...? What game do I choose next? I'm going with Tales of Destiny DC lol
i just finished it today on PC and as a person who also played the Geofront translation, gotta agree with what you said. I too am disappointed they didn't have the auto advance, i think it maybe because they used the Kai version instead of the Evolution version, as i recall the evolution is Japan exclusive that added in Voiced and mouth movement of dialogues, extra quests and cut in slide for scenes. Kai is the newer version of the game but i think its cause they used the base game for the upgrade and not the evolution version but this is just my speculation. Also i kinda wished they added atleast the cut in slides for scenes from Evolution. Modders had done it before with the Sky Trilogy so heres hoping they can do it for Zero and Azure too.
Hello, it is I, yellowstreetlight here to pick up my game! lol, but seriously, congrats yellowstreetlight, hope you enjoy adding this to your collection.
If I seen that vid again I would’ve completely understood what you were saying despite the new release having improvements. Honest vid anyway man
Should I play this or Trails in the Sky first?
The Trilogy of Trails from The Sky comes first and it's worth it, Then Zero, Then Trails from Cold Steel
They have the auto advance on the switch you just push the Y button
That was added later with a patch :)
I'm so glad they remade it for the west !!! I'm finally starting it ! I'm holding off on trails 4 till I finish zero an azure
Well, for admitting the mistake you won some experience points and level up (pun intended). Also congratulations to the winner!!
The PC version of Trails From Zero does have the auto-advance text feature though?
It was added in a patch after this video came out. :)
@@SuperDerek Ahhh, that makes sense then because I LOVED that feature
Wow completely random picker, next time I'll be sure to comment.
I can't wait for your take on Cold Steel as in my opinion it only improved on the Crossbell games and are just better. And I did enjoy Zero.
Currently playing my way through Cold Steel 1 on Twitch in preparation for a review. :)
Is this version different from the ps4 version? I didn’t realize.
YOOO THAT HAPPENS TO ME, I NEVER KNOW WHEN THEY START TALKING, IT'S HAPPENING TO ME RN WITH TALES OF VESPERIA
I played the Geofont version of this game, and I am curious if you or anyone knows if this version adds all the extra content from remasters of the game? Like for example there were some extra quests from the vita version and from the newest version they tied in some of the events from cold steel. Would make sense if they did that, but got the sneaking feeling they didn't sigh.
I believe they did add extra content to this port that ties into the later games in the series, or so I've heard. :)
@@SuperDerek cool, good to know might be worth picking this up when it's on sale then! Thanks for the reply!
@@martinomagic9230 it's based on the Kai version which has the Cold Steel cameos. I can't say for sure whether or not any of the Evo content was included in the Kai version or not because I don't know, but I've seen comments from other people in other parts of the internet that they were not.
@@Some_Random_Guy If I remember correctly, the main thing about the Evo other than gameplay changes/voices was just an extra quest or two. One of them being a bread bake off quest to further create the relationship between the baker people. Thanks for the info! For sure worth replaying as a trail's fan any scrap of new world building is enough for me haha.
Correct the Kai versions of BOTH Zero and Ao No kiseki do NOT have the Vita Evolution quests in them but be glad they don't have the status effect s crafts either since spoilers:
Arianhrod (the Steal Maiden) boss you fight in CS3 and 4 in the Vita Evolution version of Ao no Kiseki she's even more UNBEATABLE her S craft on the Vita evolution version of Ao No Kiseki makes Tio's Zero field craft USELESS so be glad it won't have the All Cancel property in the PSP/Kai versions.
Ohoho look at him! It's Derek from the press now! I really hope you can get more and more notoriety from your work with jrpgs o/
You can consider playing trails from zero on ps vita. I have done playing trails in the sky fc evolution and they have the auto advance feature. Take note to patch the english translations
I really wish there was an auto advance as well, I've done the same where they pause for just a moment and I skip the dialogue cause I think it's over but I usually just replay the line
Is the Steam version Identical with the Switch version?
Yep, at least it is in all of the most meaningful ways. There are some slight differences in the settings menus and such I think. But as far as features and QoL improvements, they're the same. :)
@@SuperDerek Thx, this is great news for me! 😃
Big shoutout to PH3 and Durante for an even more insane finish to what is already a very polished product
So far my only gripe with the Switch version is there's some wrong text that needs to be patched. Apparently they left some Japanese text in an NPC dialogue box (same thing happened with Ys VIII when it launched on Switch) and in the Quartz list Wind 2, Space 2, and Mirage 2 are all mislabeled as Water 2. Small in the grand scheme but I'd still like it to be fixed
I wonder if it's fixed now.
I hope we get the sky trilogy the same way. 😭
Hi, do you get all the voice acting with the extras bundle?
Yeah this version comes with the Japanese voice acting. There is no English dub though. :)
Ah, a fellow auto advance enjoyer! I thought I was the only one who was sad not to see it return.
Still, overall I found this to be an amazing port that retained much of what made the Geofront version so good. I'm glad this finally got to see the light of day officially!
I like autoadvance too but I read faster than they talk anyways so it doesn't really bother me
I've been playing Trails from Zero every single day, non-stop, since release day, so I knew exactly which part of his original Trails from Zero review SuperDerek was going to recant before I even started watching this video. I'm playing on PC via Steam, and I agree, the NISA localization is outstanding.
There's a couple typos here and there but honestly it didn't really bother me and I'm just glad to be able to play with so many QOL features
@@Walamonga1313 Probably the typos are in the margin of error for the editing team...even the most well known books have typos in them and the editing team allows a few to pass due to time constraints/focus on more important issues such as making sure the grammar is right and the story/sentences follow through logically and fluidly (mainly know this as I wanted to get into book publishing in the past (plan never went through though unfortunately) and the Editorial class I had in college (only actually useful class in the program lol) went over this...generally the margin of error is like 3% of the total work has spelling typos or other minor errors).
If all errors could be fixed that'd be ideal but time constraints, budget, degree of overwork, and human error will always affect things to some degree for it/any job and likely lead to a job not being 100% perfect...imo as long as the work is understandable in the end and doesn't look completely horrendous (say like Tokyo Xanadu on Vita or Sword Art Online Hollow Fragment on Vita as well which were both an ungodly disaster...granted Hollow Fragment's translation was at least funny...TX didn't have that going for it on the Vita (PS4 EX+ version fixed most issues and made it at least passable to decent but the original translation had too many parts that felt machine translated or was translated by a human that did a worse job than a machine translation and obviously didn't know anything about the English language)) the translators/writers did a good job.
That's all very cool and all but why was this filmed with a Dutch angle?!
Because my current camera mount rig can't handle the weight properly. It's on my list of things to improve.
@@SuperDerek Ah, that makes more sense than what I was thinking, which was that being wrong was the straw that broke the camel's back!
Does the Switch version of this use the Japanese voices or is it just text?
So he said they did. But did they keep the treasure chest messages?
Yeah. I hear ya on the auto-advance. I studied Japanese and it's still much smoother.
They did keep Chest Messages! :D I'm not sure if they're all the same as the ones in the Geofront patch. Some might be, some they might have had to change for legal reasons.
Only one thing I am wondering right now: Did they retain the punny chestmessages from the fantranslation or added new ones? This is IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!
A mix of both I believe. Chest messages are in fact carried over from the Geofront addition, but some messages are definitely different.
Nah its not important. Never liked those amd having to read them to 100% Sky games was such a hassle. That said if they add them to Azure but don't tie achievements to them, then I won't mind
@@Walamonga1313 The achievement is now only to open the chests. Reading the bonus messages is now optional (though I do love them XD).
I love how they jebaited the players (and me) thinking there was no messages on the first chest then bam second chest has it and even mocks us lol
@@kentstopme The first two chests baited me actually, it wasn't until the 3rd chest that sparked joy for me. xD
Is the fast forward-function on switch/ps4-versions? :o
It's definitely in the Switch and new PC version, you can set it to either a hold, or toggle button, and even adjust the speed multiplier. :)
I can also confirm it's on the PlayStation 4 version as well
@@SuperDerek thank u ^^
@@ryancraig110 thanks :)
I think the only big thing that I know that is missing is the option to choose the EVO ost, I suppose is possible on PC, granted I still like the original way more
love the trails but its hard to recommend someone to start with a franchises that are 9 games in and more on its way, and will be 100´s of hours.
use this as the basis for your recommendation:
it's a very time consuming series but it's fun for the whole time
I started the series this year after starting and quitting Sky FC several times over the years. Just play them one at a time and don't think about how many there are. I also think you can start with any Arc its not as important as people say. Yes you get more out of it in order but its still enjoyable and self contained enough
I'll do it anyway, it's the best thing they will ever play in their entire life. Completely worth the time investment
For me NONE of the games take 100 hours sure Zero and Ao No Kiseki DO have a play for 100 hours trophy too bad I could hit lv 50 in Zero on 2nd run start nightmare mode at lv 50 for a 3rd run beat Nightmare mode at lv 50 and I still didn't even have the In game Clock for this one even AT 35 HOURS out of 100.
Still males me sad NISA and falcom are so anti west though since we get the translated versions 4 or 5yrs later then the Japanese audience, even wjen fans try to make there own version to tide fans over the company now is telling them to stop and hitting them with cease and desist orders which isn't good when I'm guessing ALOT of people who played geofronts versions of zero and azure still bought zero regardless of already having played it casue the fanbase is dedicated and adore these games
PH3 does seriously amazing work, i'm sure the text advance will get added I noticed it missing too but I don't find it much of a bother myself.