I remember that the next question asked by Stephen Fry was "what shape is this?" The screens showed a spiral staircase. Phil immediately buzzed in and yelled "IT'S NOT THERE!" 😁
I knew it by the title alone. 😆 One of my all-time favorite moments from QI. "I dare say that the drivers of New Zealand as they see the Sun setting are reassured to know... *that it's not there* ."
I'd personally mark it 0 as neither odd nor even and as such is an abnormality, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if the subject is divisive among mathematicians and there's probably a few angles I haven't checked out.
@@MythicSuns It's obviously even and there is no (zero) disagreement amongst mathematicians about it. More interestingly, it is the only rotationally invariant number (given the right font).
@@MythicSuns If you don't want to directly accept it, maybe you can accept that it's even *by consensus.* Basically, 0 being even makes a bunch of math work.
This is a gem both of QI history and an excellent example of the glorious attendance of Phill Jupitus in QI! Thanks to all taking part in bringing this up on QI and posting it on TH-cam!
That line “I daresay the drivers of New Zealand, as they see the sun setting, are reassured to know… that it’s not there.” said in that pedantic tone, is one of the glorious moments of QI 🙂
New Zealand's latitude is roughly between 35 and 45 degrees south, which puts it about as far away from the equator as Spain. The United Kingdom at latitude between 50 and 60 degrees North gets lower sun angles than we do.
I tought the same the first time it was broadcast. In Norway, neighbouring Britain, where the mainland stretches from about 58 to 71 degrees North, there are very few accidents indeed caused by drivers being blinded by the low sun. Then again, Alan being wrong? On QI??
living in NZ I can tell you that I wasn't aware that it caused that many accidents. Though it is real, and a bastard of a thing at times early morning/late afternoon. I'm more surprised that it's not a thing elsewhere, but the sun is a bit funny here - you can get sunburnt in 18 degrees C (about 65F)
Alan had a point though, it takes 8 minutes for the sun's rays to get to Earth so by the time we see it set it isn't "there" anymore either. Unless Stephen's point was that a combination of the 8 minute delay and the refraction results in the particular sunset phenomenon he mentioned.
Every so often, to this day, Phill still brings this up when he can't wrap his head around anything scientific, that contradicts what his eyes are telling him! 🤣
The first time I saw this, I actually got the moment exactly right, only that I thought it was some pedent word play like "1% of the sun is beneath the horizon, therefore the sun has dropped below the horizon". So remember kids, if QI asks you to do one thing, do the other, for example if Qi says "point at the fish" you should point at the fish.... I love the show, but I hate it sometimes...
@@PianoKwanMan @James Kwan ff....... I ment to write horse, not fish twice. Also how can something not be something ? Something can't be not be not something, can it? If you're created a something, than something has to be that something , otherwise you haven't created a something. So it has to be a fish, if there is the idea of a fish in the first place. So, eventhough 'fish' has no biological meaning, just point at the something that you believe to be a fish, for if you believe in the idea of "the fish" you are pointing at a fish and you should get points for that, if Qi wants it or not.
I hoped for a whole string of Phil's Philosophies, not just a few mo's in one eppy. Phil's Mind is an expanse of Humour and Timely Wit that can flatten an audience, everyone rolling on the floor, quite literally ROFLMAO. owell, perhaps now expressed my hopes will materialize and we can all enjoy a few extra moments of The Mind of Phil Jupitus.
No, because the effect of the Sun setting (or rising) is due to the rotation of the Earth-basically the Earth blocks the Sun. When it blocks it, it's sunset
I'm in Napier, blinded all the time. Mainly in the mornings being on the East Coast. It's not like it's comes of the road or anything, it's just all bright and you can't escape it.
The fact this episode was called hypnosis, hallucinations and hysteria is extremely appropriate though maybe not for the reason they though when name it. (I think they name episodes before they say as they are often said at the start, though that may be filming magic)
I once stood in the the yard of an outback station homestead and watched an entire mountain including trees and boulders (THAT WASN’T THERE BEFORE) slowly slip back down below the horizon in front of my eyes over about half an hour. Apparently it only happens under perfect conditions.
they also missed the fact that the sun light hits earth 8 minutes after it leaves the sun. Therefore, the sun is actually setting 8 minutes earlier than Stephen pointed out.
That doesn't quite apply in this scenario. The sun is eight light-minutes away yes, but the sun is not moving relative to Earth. It's Earth that "sets" the sun by its rotation. Think of it this way: you go outside at 11am and the sun is nearly at the zenith of the sky, and then later at 5pm the sun is now on its way to setting in the west. In both instances you're seeing the sun as it was eight minutes ago, but it's still right in the same spot both times you look up at it. The sun isn't moving; you're just viewing it from another perspective due to the rotation of the Earth.
One could argue that since the horizon is not a physical object but a logical construct marking how far you can see, that as you can still see the sun, it has not in fact dipped below the construct of how far you can see.
It is the strangest feeling when I initially imagined the correct answer and then banished it as a foolish thought before being walked back to wave at the answer I just discarded in my mind 😅😂
Making my brain call its own double-bluff is so much a part of what QI is to me. I've learned so much just because a random fact on QI led me down the rabbit hole of reading Wikipedia or other good websites on some factual subject. When I was young and just studying science, I made a mental "IOU" to myself that I would someday become truly well-rounded, and QI is that childhood dream realised.
Interestingly enough, I would've buzzed at basically the correct spot - but not for the explanation given. I just assumed when the 'Sun' (there or not lol) started to cross the horizon it counted.
There are lots of things that we see that aren't actually there. Such as distant astronomical objects. A rainbow is also a good example, since it is simply light reflecting and refracting off of water droplets, and if you happen to be standing in the right place, those beams of light converge in your eyes and create the illusion of a hovering spectral halo. But someone at the other end of the street would see it in a slightly different location, or not at all. Because rainbows exist in the human eye, not in the sky. It's a literal example of "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"!
Noon? I would suspect the atmosphere is always bending the light (except when it is perfectly above you). The angle just increases more and more as it sets as you're looking at it through a thicker layer of air.
There is no transition. The mirage exist all the time. There is only an ever changing "distance" between what some think is reality and others think is a mirage. :)
They said they sped up the footage in the video, but they didn't say how much it was sped up by. Even if they didn't factor in the sun's light taking 8 minutes to reach us when they chose that particular frame as the right answer, going back 1 frame might be more wrong depending on how much the video was sped up by.
Sun-strike is very real down here in kiwi land. And in actual fact, you can’t use it as an excuse for having an accident; if conditions were such that it effected your driving that much, you should have pulled over or slowed down.
It is actually because of the curvature of the earth and atmosphere that you keep seeing it for longer than it is. My brilliant science teacher could not be wrong.
Yes and no, the sun is 8 light minutes away but doesn't actually move in the sky, the earth rotates, so that is more or less the actual position of the sun you usually see (baring light bending trickery) 🙂
You tell em Phil, as I don't drive directly into the sun on my way home to western Sydney in the arvo I'll stop wearing sunnies & not squint below my visor because its not there 🤣
Hmm, at 0:43 Alan makes a good point, actually. Technically the sun is below the horizon about 8 minutes before that point, as that is the time it takes the light to travel to earth.
@@andyFortyTwoNZ Oh, you're right. I don't know where I got the idea that it was further south than that. But that just makes the point even more stark, that any effects in New Zealand from having such a low sun, would be at least as prominent in the UK.
Would it not also be 8 minutes earlier than that due to the time it takes for light to travel from the sun to earth so it's the refraction (?) Plus the 8 minutes travel time?
I saw Phill live a good few years ago and he sang a song called, if I remember right, Owls are Bastards. Does anyone know if I can find that anywhere online? It was a blast of an evening.
No-it just becomes more noticeable because when it's closer to the horizon its easier to judge the movement relative to the horizon. What _does_ change the speed of the sunset is the time of year. If you're at a high latitude in the winter, the Sun's apparent path is at a shallower angle, which means it takes more time to drop the same amount.
Just to correct Stephen slightly, you don't have to be in the desert to see something like the picture at 1:17. It's a common sight in the summer on many rural roads. On the hottest summer days, you can often see a mirage on any street or road that's clear of traffic and long and straight enough, even in a city or suburb.
True, I saw this mirage, repeatedly, on a very sunny but not scorchingly hot day in rural central Russia. The trick seems to be a long straight road free from shade of buildings.
Sandi is better than explaining scientific phenomena than Stephen. She would have explained it lucidly, likely with a diagram or infographic. Or perhaps the elves have gotten better over the years.. dunno.
Sorry, but this calls for a Claxon for the QI elves. If the technicality of the mirage (how light bends through the atmosphere) means the sun had "gone down the horizon" physically, then you should also consider the eight minutes it takes the light from the sun to reach us. The video does not contain the sunset, according to their own standards.
Yeah, southern sunstroke is total hell, you are completely blinded, so it's extremely dangerous for about an hour, depending how far south you are. Allan is quite correct - ten marks to him, retrospectively.
Is it at all times or is it only at sunset? Seems like if was only at sunset, there'd be a minute or two each day where the sun would zip along the sky faster, or a complete pause of the moving of the sun right at sunset. The bending of light would mean the bending of time, but the sun's movement is not effected in perception of the human eye. This leads me to one of three possible hypothesis. 1- Light is not real. 2- Time is not real. Or 3-We are not real.
Phil’s comedic fury and rage at the elves whenever a question like this appears is television gold.
Perhaps why his daughter became an elf...
@@kosefix OMG thanks for reminding me that it's Friday and there must be another episode of Fish up.
@@kosefix That must have prompted an interesting family discussion.
Best moment on QI
I remember that the next question asked by Stephen Fry was "what shape is this?" The screens showed a spiral staircase. Phil immediately buzzed in and yelled "IT'S NOT THERE!" 😁
And the other guy just sets off the Klaxon with the forfeit “spiral” and he just REVELED in it.
@@megameerkat2634That's Robert Webb.
I'm so annoyed no clip that remains on TH-cam has that part on the end.
That punchline is hands down the best part of the whole thing
Helical.
My favorite Phil moment is the Child buffing workshop. That one never gets old.
LOL! I also like "One, if you play your cards right 😀 "
Where craftsmen would get toddlers to a high sheen.
"Oh, _you're_ the _shiniest._ "🤣
"More lacquer, little boy?"
When Phil makes the noise of the buffing machine's motor bogging down because the child is pressed against it. OMG I can't even.
Phill is my favorite guest of all time. Not that I don't love the others, but he just nails this show every time.
Himself and bill Bailey share the record for the most guest appearances I think
Gyles is the best guest, as he is related to every topic. But Phil is definitely a close second.
@@TheNazradin never ask gyles a follow up question 🤣🤣
@@cbucks1923 Gyles no longer needs a question to engage.
He only gets a seat because his daughter Emily is/was a QI Elf
I find him annoying and borderline obnoxious at times
Phil's delivery is absolutely superb in this
I knew it by the title alone. 😆 One of my all-time favorite moments from QI. "I dare say that the drivers of New Zealand as they see the Sun setting are reassured to know... *that it's not there* ."
I couldn't be bothered typing all that in, the delivery of that line is just exquisite!
@@Fifury161
'Tis indeed a thing of beauty.
"What shape is this staircase?"
"It's not there!"
Phil holds a grudge about this - he rants about this incident when responding to whether “0” is an even or odd number, many shows later
I'd personally mark it 0 as neither odd nor even and as such is an abnormality, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if the subject is divisive among mathematicians and there's probably a few angles I haven't checked out.
@@MythicSuns It's obviously even and there is no (zero) disagreement amongst mathematicians about it. More interestingly, it is the only rotationally invariant number (given the right font).
@@MythicSuns If you don't want to directly accept it, maybe you can accept that it's even *by consensus.* Basically, 0 being even makes a bunch of math work.
@@MythicSuns It's clearly oddven
0 is definitely even by any definition. I can't imagine there is any controversy about that. What did QI say it was?
How is it that Phill's impression of Stephen saying "Mirage..." is better than Stephen himself saying it?
Because it’s said in the voice of Lord Melchett!
Ahhh the fabled MIRAGE episode
"What shape is this staircase?"
"IT'S NOT THERE."
I had hoped this clip would include the helix comment. :(
"NOW PHILL!"
SPIRAL! *sets off the klaxon*
Ronnie: "I grew up in Scotland, and they are there!"
🤣🤣🤣
This is a gem both of QI history and an excellent example of the glorious attendance of Phill Jupitus in QI!
Thanks to all taking part in bringing this up on QI and posting it on TH-cam!
I love the way right at the end he's still shaking his head while looking straight into the camera.
That line “I daresay the drivers of New Zealand, as they see the sun setting, are reassured to know… that it’s not there.” said in that pedantic tone, is one of the glorious moments of QI 🙂
“As they see the Sun setting it will reassure them to know…
…that it’s not there” 😂😂😂😂😂
Mirage
I love the incredulous look of both Phill and Alan's faces when they hear the klaxon!
I can handle the thought of light bending. It's how my glasses work.
This video isn't actually here. Just a mirage.
Yes
None of us exist. We are all just a server farm in Vladivostok.
Therefore the people watching the video, are reassured to know.. that it's not there.
I can re-watch this clip every week for the rest of my life and never get sick of it.
New Zealand's latitude is roughly between 35 and 45 degrees south, which puts it about as far away from the equator as Spain. The United Kingdom at latitude between 50 and 60 degrees North gets lower sun angles than we do.
I challenge you to consider that the earth is axially tilted.
I tought the same the first time it was broadcast.
In Norway, neighbouring Britain, where the mainland stretches from about 58 to 71 degrees North, there are very few accidents indeed caused by drivers being blinded by the low sun.
Then again, Alan being wrong? On QI??
living in NZ I can tell you that I wasn't aware that it caused that many accidents. Though it is real, and a bastard of a thing at times early morning/late afternoon. I'm more surprised that it's not a thing elsewhere, but the sun is a bit funny here - you can get sunburnt in 18 degrees C (about 65F)
@@Seetor Yes, so the latitude numbers are an average for a whole year. We get that.
I'm from germany and yesterday the road was a blinding light.
This clip needed 30 more seconds. I remember the next question and Phill really took it tot he next level.
I'm from New Zealand and I approve Phil's message
Phil being on our left of the panel is bending my brain.
The way Phil looks even when he gets the klaxon for the buzzer is just like "oh fuck here we go"
I would think, one of the most favourite and familiar moments of every true qi fan
This is one of my favorite clips, mostly because of Phil.
This segment gets quoted in my household on an almost daily basis! One of the best moments in QI history.
Phil looks like you've told him he cant have a puppy for Christmas at the end XD
One of my favourite QI-moments!
This is one of my favourite all time QI moments
YES! I saw this bit years ago and was hoping you'd upload it one day!
Anyone else been tempted back to watch this again after watching the "Is Australia wider than the moon?" video they've just posted?
Alan had a point though, it takes 8 minutes for the sun's rays to get to Earth so by the time we see it set it isn't "there" anymore either. Unless Stephen's point was that a combination of the 8 minute delay and the refraction results in the particular sunset phenomenon he mentioned.
That lag doesn't matter because the sun's apparent motion across the sky is caused by the Earth's rotation.
@@wizardsuth Wouldn't it though? The actual Sun would still have been hidden by earth's rotation 8 minutes prior to last light?
ONe of my favorite moments of QI.
There's a poetic beauty in the laws of nature being such that as it approaches the horizon, the sun slows down to prolong the sunset.
That was a very good Stephen impression
Meet Phil after one of his stand up he is a lovely man
He was really there? He wasn’t just a mirage?
@@barbarajoseph-adam8337 is that a joke?
@@francaperotti5934 no doubt a reference to his comical contempt for the mirage of the setting sun
The true and proper master of QI !
Every so often, to this day, Phill still brings this up when he can't wrap his head around anything scientific, that contradicts what his eyes are telling him! 🤣
My favourite QI clip 👏😂
The first time I saw this, I actually got the moment exactly right, only that I thought it was some pedent word play like "1% of the sun is beneath the horizon, therefore the sun has dropped below the horizon".
So remember kids, if QI asks you to do one thing, do the other, for example if Qi says "point at the fish" you should point at the fish.... I love the show, but I hate it sometimes...
But there is no such thing as a fish. So, what do i point at?
@@PianoKwanMan @James Kwan ff....... I ment to write horse, not fish twice.
Also how can something not be something ? Something can't be not be not something, can it? If you're created a something, than something has to be that something , otherwise you haven't created a something.
So it has to be a fish, if there is the idea of a fish in the first place.
So, eventhough 'fish' has no biological meaning, just point at the something that you believe to be a fish, for if you believe in the idea of "the fish" you are pointing at a fish and you should get points for that, if Qi wants it or not.
@@klemensk8776 The fish... Is not there....
Favourite moments are Phil getting pissed
Phil doing his Stephen impressions
And the lady talking about Scotland
I hoped for a whole string of Phil's Philosophies, not just a few mo's in one eppy. Phil's Mind is an expanse of Humour and Timely Wit that can flatten an audience, everyone rolling on the floor, quite literally ROFLMAO. owell, perhaps now expressed my hopes will materialize and we can all enjoy a few extra moments of The Mind of Phil Jupitus.
Well if you take that logic to the extreme, the sun set 8 minutes earlier.
No, because the effect of the Sun setting (or rising) is due to the rotation of the Earth-basically the Earth blocks the Sun. When it blocks it, it's sunset
@@almostfm ** when it blocks it according to our vision, or according to geometry ?
Thanks.
I love Ronni!
Ah.. A classic! 😁
I live in New Zealand and never have I heard of someone getting Sun strike like that
I'm in Napier, blinded all the time. Mainly in the mornings being on the East Coast. It's not like it's comes of the road or anything, it's just all bright and you can't escape it.
NOT THERE. MIRAAAGE.
I remember this fact so often, almost every time I watch the 🌅 sunset
The fact this episode was called hypnosis, hallucinations and hysteria is extremely appropriate though maybe not for the reason they though when name it. (I think they name episodes before they say as they are often said at the start, though that may be filming magic)
I once stood in the the yard of an outback station homestead and watched an entire mountain including trees and boulders
(THAT WASN’T THERE BEFORE) slowly slip back down below the horizon in front of my eyes over about half an hour. Apparently it only happens under perfect conditions.
"have you ever seen a mirage?" Minutes after being shown an example of a mirage that we've all seen.
they also missed the fact that the sun light hits earth 8 minutes after it leaves the sun. Therefore, the sun is actually setting 8 minutes earlier than Stephen pointed out.
That doesn't quite apply in this scenario. The sun is eight light-minutes away yes, but the sun is not moving relative to Earth. It's Earth that "sets" the sun by its rotation. Think of it this way: you go outside at 11am and the sun is nearly at the zenith of the sky, and then later at 5pm the sun is now on its way to setting in the west. In both instances you're seeing the sun as it was eight minutes ago, but it's still right in the same spot both times you look up at it. The sun isn't moving; you're just viewing it from another perspective due to the rotation of the Earth.
I love how everyone just looks so angry at this one
The sun is actually even 8 minutes ahead of that as well because it takes 8 minutes for the sun's light to get to us.
One could argue that since the horizon is not a physical object but a logical construct marking how far you can see, that as you can still see the sun, it has not in fact dipped below the construct of how far you can see.
As a New Zealander can confirm... Sunstrike can occur at any time of day. Causes accidents quite frequently.
N O O O O . . .
*M I R A G E . . .*
"Not there...miraaaage." LOL
It is the strangest feeling when I initially imagined the correct answer and then banished it as a foolish thought before being walked back to wave at the answer I just discarded in my mind 😅😂
Making my brain call its own double-bluff is so much a part of what QI is to me. I've learned so much just because a random fact on QI led me down the rabbit hole of reading Wikipedia or other good websites on some factual subject. When I was young and just studying science, I made a mental "IOU" to myself that I would someday become truly well-rounded, and QI is that childhood dream realised.
I feel like all the comedy in this is just looking at Phill and Alan. Robert too!
I enjoyed the joke about there being puddles in Scottish roads :)
Interestingly enough, I would've buzzed at basically the correct spot - but not for the explanation given. I just assumed when the 'Sun' (there or not lol) started to cross the horizon it counted.
Not "despite Phil's reluctance to accept it," but "despite Phil's reluctance to understand it." LOL.
There are lots of things that we see that aren't actually there. Such as distant astronomical objects. A rainbow is also a good example, since it is simply light reflecting and refracting off of water droplets, and if you happen to be standing in the right place, those beams of light converge in your eyes and create the illusion of a hovering spectral halo. But someone at the other end of the street would see it in a slightly different location, or not at all. Because rainbows exist in the human eye, not in the sky.
It's a literal example of "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"!
Johnny Vegas, David Mitchell, and Phil Jupitas would be the best combination of people for being pissed off at Stephen's bs lmao
At what point does it begin the transition from real to mirage?
Noon?
I would suspect the atmosphere is always bending the light (except when it is perfectly above you). The angle just increases more and more as it sets as you're looking at it through a thicker layer of air.
There is no transition. The mirage exist all the time. There is only an ever changing "distance" between what some think is reality and others think is a mirage. :)
They said they sped up the footage in the video, but they didn't say how much it was sped up by. Even if they didn't factor in the sun's light taking 8 minutes to reach us when they chose that particular frame as the right answer, going back 1 frame might be more wrong depending on how much the video was sped up by.
Sun-strike is very real down here in kiwi land. And in actual fact, you can’t use it as an excuse for having an accident; if conditions were such that it effected your driving that much, you should have pulled over or slowed down.
I want Stephen's tie. It's fab and groovy. Any idea where I can buy one?
It is actually because of the curvature of the earth and atmosphere that you keep seeing it for longer than it is. My brilliant science teacher could not be wrong.
Some folks were apparently completely baffled.
Light from the Sun takes 8 minutes to reach the Earth.
What you see is the position of the Sun 8 minutes ago.
Yes and no, the sun is 8 light minutes away but doesn't actually move in the sky, the earth rotates, so that is more or less the actual position of the sun you usually see (baring light bending trickery) 🙂
You tell em Phil, as I don't drive directly into the sun on my way home to western Sydney in the arvo I'll stop wearing sunnies & not squint below my visor because its not there 🤣
Hmm, at 0:43 Alan makes a good point, actually. Technically the sun is below the horizon about 8 minutes before that point, as that is the time it takes the light to travel to earth.
*"Nooooooo. Note there. Miraaaage."*
NZer here. The sun does indeed burn holes into my eyes when driving, but only really in the morning. Sunsets are fine.
A note on that New Zealand bit. NZ is about as far south as the UK is north, so the effects should be very similar in similar weather.
Invercagill is much closer to the equator than Brighton
Roughly the same as Bordeaux, and Geneva
@@andyFortyTwoNZ
Oh, you're right. I don't know where I got the idea that it was further south than that.
But that just makes the point even more stark, that any effects in New Zealand from having such a low sun, would be at least as prominent in the UK.
How did it take this long for this to get on TH-cam? XD
Would it not also be 8 minutes earlier than that due to the time it takes for light to travel from the sun to earth so it's the refraction (?) Plus the 8 minutes travel time?
to be fair he says to press the buzzer once it drops BELOW the horizon, not fully below.
because you know. the 8-ish-minutes it takes for the light to even reach us.
If I can still see the sun, can I still feel it's warmth?
I think Steven looks his best with long hair
I saw Phill live a good few years ago and he sang a song called, if I remember right, Owls are Bastards. Does anyone know if I can find that anywhere online? It was a blast of an evening.
My only complaint is that you didn't include Phil ringing into the next question and immediately yelling "IT'S NOT THERE"
Can someone answer this then? Does the (apparent) speed of the sun/sunset vary as it gets closer to the horizon?
No-it just becomes more noticeable because when it's closer to the horizon its easier to judge the movement relative to the horizon.
What _does_ change the speed of the sunset is the time of year. If you're at a high latitude in the winter, the Sun's apparent path is at a shallower angle, which means it takes more time to drop the same amount.
Is this only over a sea or ocean
Just to correct Stephen slightly, you don't have to be in the desert to see something like the picture at 1:17. It's a common sight in the summer on many rural roads. On the hottest summer days, you can often see a mirage on any street or road that's clear of traffic and long and straight enough, even in a city or suburb.
He wasn't wrong about anything, it was just that his example was maybe not the most pertinent
True, I saw this mirage, repeatedly, on a very sunny but not scorchingly hot day in rural central Russia. The trick seems to be a long straight road free from shade of buildings.
Stephen said you see images of standing water on roads.
The UK.. they don't have hot dry weather lol
Tis a little damp up here in Scotland
I didn’t now sunstrike was only really a problem here in New Zealand, I thought everywhere got that. Also didn’t know it was called sunstrike.
More Madeira?
Sandi is better than explaining scientific phenomena than Stephen. She would have explained it lucidly, likely with a diagram or infographic. Or perhaps the elves have gotten better over the years.. dunno.
"You didn't see graphite on the ground. You didn't! Because it's not there!"
They say of the horizon where the sunset is(n't)...
Sorry, but this calls for a Claxon for the QI elves.
If the technicality of the mirage (how light bends through the atmosphere) means the sun had "gone down the horizon" physically, then you should also consider the eight minutes it takes the light from the sun to reach us.
The video does not contain the sunset, according to their own standards.
0:42 Alan almost got your point.
@@JimC I know right!
Sooo close
The sun does not Set , it goes away from Your perspective
Yeah, southern sunstroke is total hell, you are completely blinded, so it's extremely dangerous for about an hour, depending how far south you are. Allan is quite correct - ten marks to him, retrospectively.
Apart from the bits where he's completely wrong
Is it at all times or is it only at sunset? Seems like if was only at sunset, there'd be a minute or two each day where the sun would zip along the sky faster, or a complete pause of the moving of the sun right at sunset. The bending of light would mean the bending of time, but the sun's movement is not effected in perception of the human eye. This leads me to one of three possible hypothesis. 1- Light is not real. 2- Time is not real. Or 3-We are not real.