Casual Girlfriend of Samuel Bankman-Fried Rapidly Turns on Him | Caroline Ellison Case Analysis

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  • @jreds79
    @jreds79 ปีที่แล้ว +1163

    I originally thought this woman was 12.

    • @Menstral
      @Menstral ปีที่แล้ว +202

      12 ...and 64 at the same time, similar to the faces of children in medieval paintings. The juxtaposition of her 13yo skin and youthful body, but then she has elderly facial features. (your nose and ears grow your entire life, and she has a larger nose and ears)

    • @whydoineedahandle406
      @whydoineedahandle406 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That would add some charges to SBF.

    • @witheredserenity3183
      @witheredserenity3183 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Probably why he went for her

    • @paulheydarian1281
      @paulheydarian1281 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Aries GosserOW 😏😂🤣
      Maybe Sam should've converted and become a Catholic priest.

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Mentally - yes

  • @HtPt
    @HtPt ปีที่แล้ว +940

    2 Little kids owned the biggest candy store and they eat it all , end of story .

    • @johngibson2884
      @johngibson2884 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That's the best analogy yet

    • @cd2888
      @cd2888 ปีที่แล้ว

      You left out the part about a bunch of weird nerd sex.

    • @HtPt
      @HtPt ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@cd2888 yes Candy 2.0

    • @Claytone-Records
      @Claytone-Records ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nicknamed Hoover and Eureka.

    • @rachelgooden9981
      @rachelgooden9981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂

  • @SandyRiverBlue
    @SandyRiverBlue ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Four years out of college and they made her a CEO. If you didn't know that this was suspicious, now you know.

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ANYONE becoming a CEO of anything more complex than their startup taco stand business before their mid 30s is suspicious as heck.
      A small startup providing some novel/niche/unique service on a small scale. Sure, I might believe that, a multi billion dollar investment fun, hell no! XD

  • @davidwilliamson8502
    @davidwilliamson8502 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    How someone could go from “112 years in prison” to serving no jail time, simply for cooperating, is beyond me.

    • @NuncNuncNuncNunc
      @NuncNuncNuncNunc ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Maybe because 112 years was never considered just and is used only a scare tactic all by design.

    • @phillawrence5148
      @phillawrence5148 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      One of the more hateful "justice" systems on the planet. An utter disgrace.

    • @dopecat4012
      @dopecat4012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jews rarely see prison time.

    • @spinfish1434
      @spinfish1434 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      She will do 5 years and he will do 15-20..

    • @yakojjy
      @yakojjy ปีที่แล้ว +34

      When they say "facing 112 years", that's basically if she was found guilty of all charges and given the maximum sentence for each crime. Keep in mind that most of which have a minimum of no jail time.

  • @brendan3603
    @brendan3603 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The fact that Caroline might not spend any time in prison is BS

  • @fullmetal_neet2288
    @fullmetal_neet2288 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    The shame of this story is that people like Caroline won’t face the proper consequences for stealing all the money that they did.

    • @johnlittle2406
      @johnlittle2406 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pity that people believe in Crypto nonsense ,,I invest my money in Magic Beans ,Its a much safer bet to be sure ,,

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades ปีที่แล้ว +31

      If Caroline is half as smart about money as she should be, money is hidden elsewhere.

    • @abseiduk
      @abseiduk ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@SirenaSpades
      There's at least 1000 people behind them... $8 billion was not spent by two t-shirt wearing spotty faced kids for sure.

    • @chesterwilberforce9832
      @chesterwilberforce9832 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yes, it's likely she won't serve a day. But get caught with an ounce of weed in the wrong location and she could do 10 years.,

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Chester Wilberforce walking into a government building with the wrong political opinion and you'll go to jail in the US too.
      And unlike the weed story, you don't need a bunch of other crimes to go with it.

  • @andreasrau2161
    @andreasrau2161 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Good morning, Dr. Grande!
    I think it is sufficient to say that Caroline got to the judge first, pleaded guilty to everything and will probably turn state's evidence on Samuel and, in return, won't go to jail.
    She played the odds and won.
    It is also clear that they were a pair of con artists, no matter how they wanted to dress things up.

    • @sebsebski2829
      @sebsebski2829 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel like Sam was emotionally invested in her. That's why he wasn't first.

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is how women roll, zero loyalty and don't give the slightest shit about doing what's right, first and foremost in their mind is, "What benefits ME? I'm doing that!" They'll hang with a guy that is knowingly destroying people, enjoy all the benefits, and then play the babe-in-the-woods routine when busted, "I felt coerced, I was afraid to leave, blah blah blah..." All too often, the judicial system follows the old stereotype that chicks don't lie or commit crimes, it's always the guy who is the ringleader and did all the wrongdoing.

    • @chainman1
      @chainman1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Additionally, it’s also likely that she maintains access to a number of cold storage wallets

    • @flaccidego4291
      @flaccidego4291 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damian Williams, lead prosecutor for the southern district of New York, has said they will seek significant prison
      time for all defendants. So SBF is looking at least 30 years & the cooperators (rats) are looking at about 4 years which is what would be reasonable for cooperating participants in this case.
      They will in no way walk free. There were cooperating defendants who plead guilty in the Enron scandal & they all went to prison, all be it for less time because of their cooperation.
      Pleading guilty is not a get out of free jail card, otherwise all participants in a criminal scheme who just spill the beans about a fraudulent company will never pay for their crimes.
      Whoever is speculating that these admitted criminals will receive no prison time for their participation in what Mr Williams called "The greatest financial fraud in history" doesn't understand what they are talking about here in these types of financial fraud cases.
      40 years ago, nearly everyone would walk free in a case of financial fraud but now the tables have really turned & now a white collar financial fraud criminal will do much more time than an armed robber & that's because these white collar unarmed robbers are perpetrating this robbery every single day over many years.
      So not only will the 2 rats receive "significant prison sentences" but according to Mr Williams, there will be many more indictments coming.

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flaccidego4291
      I hope so, that needs to happen.

  • @welcometosemeticpalestine
    @welcometosemeticpalestine ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I cannot imagine destroying peoples lives by stealing all of their money. They did the opposite of altruism.

  • @anthonystone2089
    @anthonystone2089 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    This is what happens when people think they are smarter then they really are.

    • @chesterwilberforce9832
      @chesterwilberforce9832 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And mistake knowledge for wisdom.

    • @thepunisher2988
      @thepunisher2988 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      and when stupid people think they can get rich quick

    • @Waverlyduli
      @Waverlyduli ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The difference between 'then' versus 'than' in a sentence like this is a totally different outcome. Which did you actually intend, 'then' or 'than'?

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They built a deliberate backdoor; this was all deliberate. Why are people trying to say it was due to incompetence. I guess incompetence because they got caught, but that is it

    • @Hollylivengood
      @Hollylivengood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thepunisher2988 They did. That money is still there. She's convicted, but she fully cooperated admitted to everything, and through her partner under the bus. Probably won't serve time, or maybe a year or two. Come out and al those millions will be in whatever holding company she hid them in. That's...genius.

  • @whydoineedahandle406
    @whydoineedahandle406 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    Next question, who let a 9 year old run a company?

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am wondering how people can be so stupid to give money to these people...

    • @rockroll3983
      @rockroll3983 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      a 12 year old of coarse

    • @joaoportesantava1412
      @joaoportesantava1412 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahaha

    • @iliketacos6067
      @iliketacos6067 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      hahah bro good one bro. yea his balls havent even dropped yet hahahahhahaha

    • @vixxxenfoxxx3660
      @vixxxenfoxxx3660 ปีที่แล้ว

      She looks so old yet so much like a kid at the same time...with a sprinkle of troll in there somewhere.

  • @tollpatschny3346
    @tollpatschny3346 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    She looks like the girl in class who reminds the teacher to assign homework

  • @TheDramacist
    @TheDramacist ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "How boring it is not to be high on drugs." Amen

    • @dopecat4012
      @dopecat4012 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy your drug use, in your 30s you will be so numb towards everything you will beg for death.

  • @XanderShiller
    @XanderShiller ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It's impressive how 1 can simultaneously look 12 and 68yo?

    • @Davilla888
      @Davilla888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nailed it!

    • @barneyronnie
      @barneyronnie ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Master of disguise .... and disgust.

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A diet of pharmaceutical drugs, energy drinks and all night gaming sessions.

    • @hotvegas2498
      @hotvegas2498 ปีที่แล้ว

      😲😲😲😲😲😲😳😳😳😳😳😂😂

  • @Big_Tex
    @Big_Tex ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I’m so old I remember when “effective altruism” was just called “Philanthropy” and people have been doing it since the dawn of civilization

    • @KarlMarxFanClub
      @KarlMarxFanClub ปีที่แล้ว

      Philanthropy is a scam that rich people play on the naive.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They're not the same

    • @chapel5006
      @chapel5006 ปีที่แล้ว

      EA is way stupider and also a scam.

    • @chapel5006
      @chapel5006 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cht2162 "Effective altruism" is not altruism. EA is a justification for hoarding wealth under the idea that people who are best able to earn money should do so to whatever extent they can, because people who are able to make lots of money are best equipped to figure out the best way to donate it or the best use of those resources. It's how you get Elon Musk trying to stop AI instead of feeding hungry people. It's all a giant scam.
      Altruism is just a normal moral philosophy, EA is not really altruistic anyway, it's at best utilitarian.

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok CHT2 now explain effective altruist.

  • @NaaSippingMocha
    @NaaSippingMocha ปีที่แล้ว +33

    'No telling when the Bank-man will be Freed' - the word play alone gives me Pure Joy ❤️❤️❤️
    Happy New year Dr Grande ♥️

    • @monicaingram2970
      @monicaingram2970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What collar crime seems to pay big. They will never, ever serve one day in jail.

    • @silentype3008
      @silentype3008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Reminds me of “Bernie made off with your money and he’s not coming back,”

  • @mcdibbern9919
    @mcdibbern9919 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The expression “ too clever for their own good” comes to mind.

  • @markcarey67
    @markcarey67 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    On the ACDS (Ambient Cacti and Dry Sarcasm) scale I would say Dr Grande is in the 99% percentile although I am not diagnosing anyone here...

  • @mc26collum
    @mc26collum ปีที่แล้ว +271

    These two are extra despicable, cause they could've put their talent to a good use and still be successful. They had a choice and chose evil.

    • @shitmandood
      @shitmandood ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She got duped into the get rich quick scheme

    • @susiex6669
      @susiex6669 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@shitmandood She didnt get duped. She knew what she was doing.

    • @Cody-pc7nh
      @Cody-pc7nh ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Their talent was lying and scamming.. tf you mean

    • @alisharay8462
      @alisharay8462 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sometimes, people that are extremely smart never fail and thus, always believe they have extra time to fix things. Arrogance, essentially, they think they're better than others because of their intelligence

    • @brianb7869
      @brianb7869 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't start trouble. Don't start evil.

  • @kayokay470
    @kayokay470 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I read an article talking about how Caroline wrote harem fanfiction of herself and SBF on Tumblr. She wrote that her ideal man would have the power to crumble world economies... Sounds like they're just crazy nerds who got way too much power and money.

    • @JeffCaplan313
      @JeffCaplan313 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      💯
      Now imagine what the folks with REAL power must think about the world, if these two thought that and did so well, so young.

    • @MrLlk14
      @MrLlk14 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      She wrote about systemic exploitation and "to be a good person is to burn the system to the ground...even if it requires a substantial decrease in the global standards of living". She was a Socialist. So she was in a win-win situation. Her wealth - some were allegedly stolen from FTX/Alameda - helped her fund effective altruism (which in reality funds Left wing causes). And when her risky bets helped sink the company, she destroyed the wealth of many and helped put a dent in the system, but not quite destroy it.

    • @elleblue07
      @elleblue07 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MrLlk14 A downside to Caroline and SBF's philosophy is that plenty of ordinary people invested with them.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What ever happened to just being a chad Alexander the Great? Or a Napoleon?

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @pyropulse well Putin is currently trying that but unfortunately for him, he sucks at it.

  • @corumuk67
    @corumuk67 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Considering the very real and potentially devastating losses experienced by retail traders, it would be very disappointing if she didn't serve at least 10 years, and a lot more for SBF.

    • @roginutah
      @roginutah ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If there are no consequences, the crimes will continue.

    • @albertgrant1017
      @albertgrant1017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even though she assisted the Prosecution the seriousness of her crimes means she should serve some time in prison, !

  • @petec223
    @petec223 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    how you delivered the "bankman will be freed" line with a straight face is beyond me hahaha

    • @abseiduk
      @abseiduk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They were just 'fall guys'... there's probably at least 1000 people involved.

    • @curseoftheegglady
      @curseoftheegglady ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh good, someone else heard him say that, not just me 🤣

    • @lawrencefeldman7744
      @lawrencefeldman7744 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw the edit after that line!

    • @2packrm781
      @2packrm781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man, I don't know if it was a burn, a write off, a gaslight, the pun, or the best punchline (ever), but it was the best thing to hear him say it in the most hilarious way 😆😂🤣

  • @kgfes
    @kgfes ปีที่แล้ว +388

    I wonder why she looks like a high-school nerd yet she is almost 30 years old. She and SBF looked so eccentric yet somehow believable to investors

    • @charsback
      @charsback ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She had a lot of oral experience..

    • @audralynn7454
      @audralynn7454 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      The youthful, nerdy look is enticing to young investors, bitcoin has a lot of young investors. Perhaps that's why.

    • @nimeryaspawnbrd1049
      @nimeryaspawnbrd1049 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      That's something I don't get...
      Maybe it's me, I'm in my 40s so my openness to experiences peaked 2 decades ago 😜, but I'd rather have someone (way) less eccentric than a stoned college kid handling my money...

    • @NicE-jq3wv
      @NicE-jq3wv ปีที่แล้ว +36

      “Eccentric” is an interesting way of describing

    • @KarlMarxFanClub
      @KarlMarxFanClub ปีที่แล้ว

      Eccentric simply means you’re a social weirdo.

  • @chazegeyer7151
    @chazegeyer7151 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What’s amazing is this man destroyed many everyday people not just the rich and yet his family was able to come up with extraordinary bail.

  • @ninalower9
    @ninalower9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Their appreciation for art, was not for beauty, it’s because that’s the best way to launder the money stolen from their customers!!

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's all the art industry is about.

  • @PoorRick
    @PoorRick ปีที่แล้ว +539

    I was convinced Dr Grande recorded a years worth of videos ahead of time to provide this kind of content, but now I’m convinced he’s an alien

    • @PoorRick
      @PoorRick ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Keep up the great work 👊

    • @serif392
      @serif392 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      👊👊

    • @pennylane176
      @pennylane176 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I think Dr Grande should do a video about HIS videos.

    • @jamaaldavis6243
      @jamaaldavis6243 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@pennylane176 This is a great idea

    • @gailkelly4651
      @gailkelly4651 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Poor Rick....did you ever think that maybe you are an alien.,👽

  • @godfreyofbouillon966
    @godfreyofbouillon966 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    A character from one of A. Sapkowsky's "The Witcher" books named Zoltan once said (paraphrasing) "I am almost pathological altruist I couldn't help myself but do good in the world since I was a child. However at some point in time I noticed the world is too big and Im just one person so the good I do divided all over the world practically disappears and nobody feels it. So I started doing good to a much smaller group of people meaning myself and closest friends and boy do we feel the effects of altruism now."

    • @Koozomec
      @Koozomec ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hi, Zoltan and Jaskier's duo :D
      I've visited Bouillon, nice medieval city.

    • @Torgo1969
      @Torgo1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Subsidiarity FTW. Charity begins at home.

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 ปีที่แล้ว

      Szpakowski.

    • @monkeytimestamps4915
      @monkeytimestamps4915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “...boy do we feel the effects of altruism now.”
      This last line kills me. Being completely unfamiliar with The Witcher, I think got a clear picture of what you were trying to paraphrase so thanks.

  • @alostbard
    @alostbard ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the greatest fallacies of our society is believing that being smart is equivalent to being a good person, when in fact it is usually the opposite. All of the greatest examples of human suffering were orchestrated by what were widely considered to be the smartest of us all.

  • @Oneofcorporalemmastwomoms
    @Oneofcorporalemmastwomoms ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The bank man won’t be freed. You never disappoint Dr.Grande!!

  • @tmcurly
    @tmcurly ปีที่แล้ว +73

    “The Bankman will ever be Freed.” 😹😹🙊
    Professor Todd Grande ~ 2023 ☝🏽🙈

  • @greenfacere210
    @greenfacere210 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Your voice is so relaxing, and your videos are a part of my bedtime routine. Thank you, Dr. Grande

    • @alena5484
      @alena5484 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol same here

    • @gailkelly4651
      @gailkelly4651 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes he has a very soothing voice.🕊️

    • @mrjames8050
      @mrjames8050 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@alena5484 Literally the last thing I do before I go to bed!

    • @4elizabeth
      @4elizabeth ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sadly, same lol

    • @MoonWomanStudios
      @MoonWomanStudios ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That voice got me through bed rest with my high risk pregnancy

  • @denome3725
    @denome3725 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have found this channel recently when looking into the FTX situation out of curiosity and i have to say that i am extremely happy with the finding. The natural way of explaining combined with the calm voice and the highly intellectual experience makes this whole content to be unbelievably soothing. I have never thought that i am going to enjoy the analysis about FTX so much. Thank you.

  • @susansandler8429
    @susansandler8429 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Damn, you are brilliant! Your analysis is multi-layered and nuanced. And yet, you are able to explain complex ideas in human speak. What a gift! Lots to think about.

  • @bariizlam638
    @bariizlam638 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    despicable woman! i really dislike people who squanders other people's money and us it to enjoy a lavish lifestyle while lying to the investors about their money! pathetic... i hope she gets jail time!

    • @SF-eo6xf
      @SF-eo6xf ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She won't go to jail.

    • @ruthlessreid9172
      @ruthlessreid9172 ปีที่แล้ว

      Women are treated like children in court especially when testifying against men.

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Unfortunately for SBF she got to the authorities first. The doe-eyed act will likely serve her well.

    • @michaelstollairetbarceo3287
      @michaelstollairetbarceo3287 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's historically proven women tend to get less time for financial related crimes. I'd be surprised if she got 10 years, which is already very low.

    • @PungiFungi
      @PungiFungi ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@michaelstollairetbarceo3287 the Theranos case proved it. The bleach blonde fembot got 11 years while the short scary brown man gets 13.

  • @JimmyClabots
    @JimmyClabots ปีที่แล้ว +379

    It’s good to see Caroline was making good use of those math skills LMAO. Doc throws in these great one liner punches all without cracking a smile 😀

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What math skills?

    • @orionxtc1119
      @orionxtc1119 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Goes to show a maths ability does not equate to honesty or real smarts

    • @bababoeythehorsemen8462
      @bababoeythehorsemen8462 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@orionxtc1119 it mean she is hypoctric because she likes altrueism but she just doing the opposite thing

    • @silversobe
      @silversobe ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Meth skills

    • @tonysplace9255
      @tonysplace9255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She was the office whore for everybody. It was all dudes except for her living in that house lol They were tearin it up! lmao

  • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
    @LukeSumIpsePatremTe ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Buying art can be a way to show off or to appear in positive light. Not just a way to appreciate art. Especially if the art just so happens to be quite expensive.

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's also a great way to launder money.

    • @kmrapanmedia3176
      @kmrapanmedia3176 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mjanny6330 I wS going to make exactly that comment

  • @andrewryanwasright
    @andrewryanwasright ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it” H. L. Mencken

  • @gregkamer3754
    @gregkamer3754 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    There's an old Arab proverb "The first camel to the trough drinks the sweetest water"
    . Caroline won the race.

    • @cecilyerker
      @cecilyerker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, she does look like a camel 🐪 🐫

    • @jessepitt
      @jessepitt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, everyone else drank camel shit.

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To prison?

    • @supercoolyguy
      @supercoolyguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Catlily5
      🎃 Muhahahaa 🎃

    • @swisstrader
      @swisstrader ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She won nothing in her life. Except a couple HS math competitions 😂

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn ปีที่แล้ว +358

    My take is that both Caroline and Samuel were bright well connected and motivated young people who talked a good game but when push came to shove they collapsed under the weight of their own malarkey. In other words, they had too much too soon and dazzled everyone with their intelligence but lacked competence in the field of their endeavor. They remind me of the “Peter Principle” that people rise to the level of their incompetence.

    • @thewkovacs316
      @thewkovacs316 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      motivated to make money and rip people off

    • @PoorRick
      @PoorRick ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And my take is that you don’t know what an oxford comma is 😂

    • @grimslade0
      @grimslade0 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Well, I sure hope they don't get tried as adults!
      Those silly, "young", 30 year old scamps.

    • @rtos
      @rtos ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Despite all that talk about altruism they both had no moral compass...

    • @tod3msn
      @tod3msn ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@PoorRicksome style guides recommend the Oxford comma and some don’t but what you don’t know is being gracious to others and not needing to appear pompous.😅

  • @CorporateNPC
    @CorporateNPC ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I think it's naive to say that these guys are geniuses. They're just a couple of smug rich kids who happened to have the right scam at the right time. A genius wouldn't be caught in such an obvious scheme.

    • @sunnycatc6491
      @sunnycatc6491 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree; also the definition of "genius" is fluid. I've known people with computer-type brains, and that's usually the extent of their personality. I'm curious about the source of that study that shows "geniuses" appreciate beauty, etc. People with new money buy what they think they should, i.e. art, property etc.

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime ปีที่แล้ว

      He's speaking technically, not colloquially complimenting them.. they are geniuses in the literal, textbook, technical definition.

    • @CorporateNPC
      @CorporateNPC ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EpicMathTime disagree. Einstein and Tesla are geniuses in the "literal" sense. These are two normal kids who had parents rich enough to get them the best education in the country.

    • @dasmuss6174
      @dasmuss6174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sunnycatc6491 gender fluid?

    • @sunnycatc6491
      @sunnycatc6491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CorporateNPC Seems to me their parents were more connected than rich. They're all intelligent, but that's no excuse for major fraud and thievery.

  • @MrJmanrey
    @MrJmanrey ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “There’s no telling when the Bankman will be fried.” Good one. Got a chuckle out of that one.

  • @scasey1960
    @scasey1960 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Makes you question the parenting skills of Ivy League professors.

  • @louisfriend7388
    @louisfriend7388 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    At least she still has her looks.

    • @Big_Tex
      @Big_Tex ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I mean, not GOOD looks …

    • @mungodegrijalva822
      @mungodegrijalva822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And her seductive smile & super sexy glasses! I like her (to go to jail).

    • @NicE-jq3wv
      @NicE-jq3wv ปีที่แล้ว +10

      😂

    • @stonesmcgee1666
      @stonesmcgee1666 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @thebushbunker
      @thebushbunker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Her ers are low huh

  • @MC-qb1jg
    @MC-qb1jg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Caroline should also be held accountable for her part in stealing money from investors. Regardless of whether her telling the truth. That's just the right thing to do.

  • @Z.November
    @Z.November ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I just hope that girl has a good therapist because it would take a very strong person to read the comments about her looks especially and come out okay.

    • @batacumba
      @batacumba ปีที่แล้ว

      lol I feel you but nobody would’ve come for her looks like they are if she hadn’t defrauded and stole a shitton of money from people. Guess that’s her cross to bear, don’t be ugly and commit crimes unless you want your ugliness to be discussed ad infinitum. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @monicaingram2970
      @monicaingram2970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree.

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't, she earned it.

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe she can get on that again some prescription drugs...

    • @taratownsend6408
      @taratownsend6408 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks? What looks?

  • @audralynn7454
    @audralynn7454 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    What I learned from this video is that I practice ineffective altruism. All I do is help people, and I really enjoy helping people, but I never seem to get rich. In fact, quite the opposite, as I seem to be giving everyone my time and/or money. So, I help them, but never seem to be able to do or make enough to help more than a few people at a time. Thank you Dr. Grande.

    • @richard8242
      @richard8242 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There was a lot of talk about math in this video. So if some of the people you help go on to help other people, and some of them carry on the work.. etc. Thank You for your Good And Faithful work

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe this effect is known as "being lonely up on my cross"

    • @stefanforrer2573
      @stefanforrer2573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and i learned that my initial assessment of effective altruism was correct.... it's just another "hey look at me, i'm saving the world! now give me your money!" scam

    • @Violexie-wb7op
      @Violexie-wb7op ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Teacher here, especially felt the 'never seem to get rich' part lol

    • @nmartin5551
      @nmartin5551 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hiimjustin8826oooh! Great shot whether or not it’s true.

  • @goofusmaximus1482
    @goofusmaximus1482 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Does Dr. Grande use a food dehydrator? Or does his sense of humor do the job even better?

  • @abnormalmissionary3983
    @abnormalmissionary3983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think John Ray said it very well about the FTX group.
    FTX Group’s collapse appears to stem from the absolute concentration of control in the hands of a very small group of grossly inexperienced and unsophisticated individuals who failed to implement virtually any of the systems or controls that are necessary for a company that is entrusted with other people’s money or assets. John Ray.
    This is simple embezzlement. FTX didn’t fail. The money didn’t disappear. They spend it on themselves and believed their political connections would protect them.

  • @contentperfection
    @contentperfection ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love your channel. Your thorough analysis on each subject is eye opening, and your voice has a soothing quality.

  • @darrincase1013
    @darrincase1013 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Dr. Grande's insight as always is thought provoking, witty and concise. Without being pretentious.
    A soothing, almost intoxicating voice. A confident self assurance. And very handsome.
    As usual Dr. Grande delivers the full package.

  • @adamb2216
    @adamb2216 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    His woodland elf has turned on him

  • @FearMyLadyBits
    @FearMyLadyBits ปีที่แล้ว +2

    there are alot of scammers who "fish" in altruistic and charitable organizations, because there are actually generous people out there looking to do good in the world.

  • @HDtothe8
    @HDtothe8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This deadpan style of humour gets me every time! I'd be listening intently for one moment and burst out laughing the next!! Bravo Dr. Grande👏👏😄

  • @jnaiden2519
    @jnaiden2519 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I worked non profit for 10 years. I saw so many people like this who think money is the answer but have never actually done anything. They talk a big game but ultimately are only out for self aggrandizement and their own social promotion

  • @EdugeBDroN
    @EdugeBDroN ปีที่แล้ว +58

    When anxiety gets in my way I come here to listen. Dr. Grande's speech, tone & pace seem to soothe it away. I wonder if that is natural or part of his training ....it reminds me of my sister reading me stories when I was a child...fascinating

    • @orls9068
      @orls9068 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@BonusHole Maybe he just got better at presenting, trained himself to convey his message better, I used to be bad at presentations I got better over time, trained myself to talk a bit slower and not rush through and not let nerves get to me

    • @oldwelshlady6584
      @oldwelshlady6584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BonusHole he's always sounded like this!!!?? What are you on about?

    • @Cec9e13
      @Cec9e13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So many TH-cam presenters speak very quickly in an effort to make a longer video fit an algorithm-friendly length. I hate that. I wish everyone stuck to this speed, it is so much easier to focus, comprehend, and enjoy.

    • @Milkugh
      @Milkugh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do the same !

    • @annemariestones3984
      @annemariestones3984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get anxious before work so find myself drawn to these videos before I go. It must be to do with the voice as don't think it's the subject matters!

  • @a.jlondon9039
    @a.jlondon9039 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A lot of FTX investors didn't know they were investing in crypto. Many pension funds invested in FTX and the people paying into those pensions had no idea where their money was going.

  • @GeorgideMarne
    @GeorgideMarne ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Being in the Top 500 in a math contest does not mean they were geniuses. 500 ?? Get real... they presented themselves as geniuses, that's another story.. 2 crooks.

  • @swisstrader
    @swisstrader ปีที่แล้ว +39

    How did this woman go from a junior trader at Jane St to managing billions of dollars at age 28?
    Completely nuts

    • @jamesmcdougal2
      @jamesmcdougal2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the v

    • @monicaingram2970
      @monicaingram2970 ปีที่แล้ว

      White privilege.

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Family connections"

    • @jamesmcdougal2
      @jamesmcdougal2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monicaingram2970 I dont think they consider themselves white. Look at the last name. You may be intellectually challenged

    • @tylere.8436
      @tylere.8436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Favors... 😏

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I can’t sleep and get a Grande notification, I do flips down the hallway 🤣

  • @TheGregcawthorne
    @TheGregcawthorne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "They were somehow special" - One of Dr Grandes ultimate takedowns.

  • @pitdicted
    @pitdicted ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The smirk on SBF's face says it all. So sick of these types screwing over everyone else. Put him open population once he goes to prison.

  • @lincbond442
    @lincbond442 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting how those who claim to be the most altruistic turn out being the most corrupt.

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku ปีที่แล้ว +112

    They both could have had such promising futures with those brains but instead made terrible choices deceiving many people.
    Very interesting video, Dr. Grande!

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They both seem stupid af to me...

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's great they struck out on their own instead of working for a paycheck. Just needed to stop short of committing any crimes whoops

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism ปีที่แล้ว

      How did they deceive people? How exactly did they do this? I'm seeing only business mistakes, with the girl pleading guilty to get a light sentence.
      I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering how they've broken the law.

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Jimmy911ism There's a lot of really good explanations on this from people like Legal Eagle or Patrick Boyle if you're interested.
      In summary: FTX loaned customer funds to Alameda research (a "separate" company" which it wasn't supposed to do. There was other stuff, but if you really want to understand the whole picture and why that was so bad, there are a ton of summaries out there.

    • @dt9327
      @dt9327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's just said their math is off.

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The reason "openness to experience" drops off after our 20's is because we remember some of the things we were open to in our 20's.

  • @rogerwilco4736
    @rogerwilco4736 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Greed has no bounds

  • @maddieadams75
    @maddieadams75 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    😂 “Caroline trying to collect the whole set of conspiracies related to financial crimes”. 😂 😂😂😂

  • @abiudjoseph6136
    @abiudjoseph6136 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Their grandiosity led them to believe they were somehow special, like the Chrisleys.

  • @cinnamon--girl
    @cinnamon--girl ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks, Dr. Grande. I always appreciate your insights. Best to you for the new year.

  • @lisasaims3007
    @lisasaims3007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find it extremely interesting as there’s no mention of the benefactors in this video! Tells a lot

  • @Tcoldsteel
    @Tcoldsteel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hypocrites gonna hypocrite.

  • @nickmandleberg
    @nickmandleberg ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Effective Altruism" another modern day self absorbed meaningless term 🙄

  • @48mastadon
    @48mastadon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So a scheme involving the trading of imaginary money turned out to be a scam? Never would have seen that coming.

    • @Nancie6290
      @Nancie6290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly ! Let’s get back to the basics people . Gold , silver , oil . And actual commodities that are real not imaginary . Just fast talkers .

  • @SaltyCwgrl
    @SaltyCwgrl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:51 "The Bank Man may never be freed". 🤣 Good one Doc.... your dry quick humor always makes me smile".

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I feel that a person can be a collector of art and beauty and into magical and be technically open to experience but still have the wisdom to be cautious and retain their integrity, and like a good game of chess make all the right moves.

    • @cecilyerker
      @cecilyerker ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s openness to experience with high conscientiousness.

    • @rebeccacarraway480
      @rebeccacarraway480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buuuuuut she wasn’t…🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @mykelc205
      @mykelc205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look who God give dem greed n glutinous nature to.

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mykelc205 Huh?

    • @chesterwilberforce9832
      @chesterwilberforce9832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I'd love to know what values were instilled in her by her math nerd parents, if any. Sometimes really bright kids have the path smoothed for them and feel like they don't operate by the same rules as us folks,.

  • @lawrencee1113
    @lawrencee1113 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hopefully, when I become a Billionaire, or Multi Millionaire, I will be able to get a Gal like Caroline!

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So she can rob you?

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lawrencee1113 If you say so. She'd still rob you.

    • @curtiskretzer8898
      @curtiskretzer8898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You better layer those accounts w/pre nuptial agreements,
      multiple firewalls & passwords.

    • @taratownsend6408
      @taratownsend6408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @HolldollMcG
    @HolldollMcG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll always chaff at the fact that murders, rapist, and child abusers continually get less prison time than people who commit financial crimes.

  • @Aashka_The_Mystic
    @Aashka_The_Mystic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It disturbs me that they were both into effective altruism yet scammed so many people out of their money. Either that was a facade they were trying to maintain in order to look like good people, or they became corrupted by money and greed.

  • @blaisebaileyfinnegan8202
    @blaisebaileyfinnegan8202 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OH MY GOD.. WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER FACE?!

  • @trax72
    @trax72 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Funny how someone that's supposedly so good at math couldn't calculate the risk of getting caught.

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had the the crypto bubble continue, their leveraged investment would pay off and they would be cherished as geniuses and everyone would most likely overlook some accounting irregularities...

  • @aymanabdellatief1572
    @aymanabdellatief1572 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Both Caroline and SBF look like characters out of some Sci Fi fantasy. SBF looks like a hobbit from Lord of the Rings and Caroline looks like something out of Harry Potter.

    • @Benjaminleo815
      @Benjaminleo815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She looks like Dobbie

    • @LiveFreeOrDie2A
      @LiveFreeOrDie2A ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *In case you ever wondered what happened to the red sweatshirt girl from Hills Have Eyes..*

  • @keysaysassah
    @keysaysassah ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I know it’s illogical but I’ve always had some anger towards people like them. I grew up so poor with poor parents, well really just one parent who wanted to be in my life and I always looked at people who had educated, well-off parents, in a stable home with a decent chance at life as somehow better than me. I felt excited for what they could achieve but I now see that some of them just throw away all they are given 😭 why?! It’s frustrating to me 😂

    • @GSP-76
      @GSP-76 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I'd rather be an honest poor person than a rich scumbag thief...these people live tortured lives... nothing to be jealous of.

    • @grammiesspirit2667
      @grammiesspirit2667 ปีที่แล้ว

      🌹

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism ปีที่แล้ว

      What exactly did they do? How have they defrauded investors?

    • @alienautopsy9326
      @alienautopsy9326 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a big mystery

    • @JeffCaplan313
      @JeffCaplan313 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eat the rich.

  • @jessicantina
    @jessicantina ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How many takes did you need to say "There's no telling when the Bankman will ever be Freed" without breaking?

  • @JustineBrownsBookshelf
    @JustineBrownsBookshelf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steer clear of people who tell you their first priority is to “change the world”.

  • @sooty3000
    @sooty3000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just listen to how he delivers each burn. Such ferocity adorned with truth.

  • @ant_life_4ever
    @ant_life_4ever ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s like the cast of Big Bang Theory went rogue lol😂

  • @AxelordSMIJES
    @AxelordSMIJES ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Love the new studio and, of course, the content. Keep up the awesome work, Doc!
    Wanted to add - When Dr G said "Drug use is also associated with being high in openness to experience", that ever-so-slight pause between the words 'high' and 'in openness' got me. I thought he was about to drop the ultimate wordplay on us lol 😆

    • @hydropeppers
      @hydropeppers ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dr. G is quick with the word, YT always giving the nice gem channels!

  • @claudinejames7731
    @claudinejames7731 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For two incredibly intelligent, well educated people they sure made a lot of mistakes. Thanks Dr. Grande for this intriging story!

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything went according to plan.
      It just wasn't there plan.

  • @donalddepew9605
    @donalddepew9605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What she and her cronies did was terrible, but if I were in her shoes, I'd be singing like a bird to the Feds also. You nailed it!

  • @martyal
    @martyal ปีที่แล้ว +24

    “She may not spend any time in prison.” There may be some people who want her out on the street so she’s accessible.

    • @Katkiwi25
      @Katkiwi25 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Money-making talent will always find a way out of prison

    • @tinamartina1801
      @tinamartina1801 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Katkiwi25 not always, sometimes others do that for them

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Katkiwi25 She never made money.

    • @goneprivate2714
      @goneprivate2714 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The BootyBandit Madoff avoided the hitman from the mob by staying in lockup

  • @catsantos353
    @catsantos353 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have dyscalculia/numerical issues. She would either be my worst enemy or best friend

    • @rebeccacarraway480
      @rebeccacarraway480 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds interesting. Gonna have to Google it.

    • @Shawn-ik9zd
      @Shawn-ik9zd ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too but fore some reason I can pretty much guesstimate most basic math equations I think of numbers like a 6th grader , but give me crazy numbers with money and I can add that up , as a child I would come up with the right answers but then the teacher would complain because I found a way to get the answer with a formula that they said was incorrect, it's nice to know I'm not alone....

    • @jazzfeline5970
      @jazzfeline5970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Omnipotent Mama Every self-proclaimed "empath" I've met are nothing of the sort, and tend to be emotionally unstable and pretentious.

    • @babblingalong7689
      @babblingalong7689 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just have issues in general.

    • @rebeccacarraway480
      @rebeccacarraway480 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jazzfeline5970 HA! Omg 😱 🤣

  • @terrenlee4616
    @terrenlee4616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That dude had all that money & this woman was his "casual girlfriend" 🙄🤦🏻🤣

  • @mybachhertzbaud3074
    @mybachhertzbaud3074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Telling the truth to a crime does not absolve you of that crime. Period!

  • @Seeker12x12
    @Seeker12x12 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    When you want to change the world but the world needs you to change yourself.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson ปีที่แล้ว

      For some reason this comment made me read it several times! Work on yourself before you try to help others? Smart move!

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades ปีที่แล้ว

      Except they never did what they promised.

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hopefully, the always mediocre federal prosecutors will manage to get a long prison sentence for her and Bankman-Fried...but I doubt it.

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism ปีที่แล้ว

      Crazy sentences for business mistakes... there's something seriously wrong with the American psyche. Murder, drug and other organised crime, robbery... these are the things that should attract long sentences. What is wrong with you people?

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jimmy911ism They stole billions of dollars from people.

    • @InTheNameOfLife1
      @InTheNameOfLife1 ปีที่แล้ว

      She’ll probably get a deal to turn over everything she knows/ has on SBF and get out of serving time

  • @fritzidler9871
    @fritzidler9871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, doc. That was highly informative, and entertaining.

  • @I_Love_my_adblock4408
    @I_Love_my_adblock4408 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    🙋🏾‍♂️ The girl looks like she's twelve. 😳

    • @peteredwards338
      @peteredwards338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greta syndrome ?

    • @cathybenadaro
      @cathybenadaro ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was thinking 8.

    • @lincbond442
      @lincbond442 ปีที่แล้ว

      She looks like that girl in grade school with the annoying habit of picking her nose.

  • @mattyburrito3819
    @mattyburrito3819 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love your content and your humor Dr. Grande. been a long time listener.

  • @ligiization
    @ligiization ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The part about openness to experience shoult be put into a TH-cam Short. Dr Grande is a genius in summarizing and explaining things perfectly👍🏻

  • @roadrunner9622
    @roadrunner9622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One important element of Effective Altruism, is the idea that you spend your productive years amassing as much money as you can, and THEN you give it to charity.
    This may explain the contradiction that they were blowing enormous sums on luxury, while claiming to be altruistic. "We can always give later!"

  • @rodbenson5879
    @rodbenson5879 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is not good that all consequences of your crime can be removed by cooperating with authorities especially when your crime is serious fraud.

  • @fborgman99
    @fborgman99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She reminds me of Margaret from the original Dennis the Meanest.