Hello everybody Im the owner. It was quite the chore. Im just a weekend warrior. Took about 2 weeks to do. Sometimes you need a little help. Thankfully Ivan is within driving distance. Thanks Ivan!
And that explains everything just some advice that I have given before seeing your post ANY TIME YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME TAKE PHOTOS !!!!!
It happens to the best of us, I replaced a Volvo XC60 dashboard and was having issues once refitted. Turns out Volvo put 2 identical green plugs on the same loom about 3 inches apart, one was for the SIM card reader and the other was for the passenger airbag switch.
I learned, very quickly in my trbl shooting career, to act interested and respectfully listen to the on-site technicians complaints. In reality, everybody has their own their version of problems which could send you down a black hole you might never escape.
I'm sitting with my cat having a cup of black coffee, watching one of Ivan's videos on a Saturday morning while I wait to go pick up my motorcycle. Life is good.
Ahhhh the classic “evil twin connector” scenario. Thank goodness most engineers make each connector slightly different in same areas of harnesses. Great strategic old school diagnosis. Proves the value of test lights.
What a carnage on that dash! So many independent faults coinciding under the same complaint, but only one fault was consequence of the carnage! Great diagnostic and repair, Ivan!
I’ve seen a few of those blend door horror movies. Kudos to the owner for tackling that project. Can’t imagine what that would cost to have it done somewhere. Even with paying Ivan for His work, I’d say the owner did pretty good. The sun is shining, my furry neighbor said winter is over! Great! Time to go do some fun bug work with PHAD reruns going over on the wall. Nice work Ivan. 👍👍🇺🇸
That diagnostic was joyful to watch. I work in computers and have people say on a weekly basis "Since you last worked on my computer x, y or z isnt working". I think we're all logical beasts at heart even if that means we arrive at the wrong conclusion sometimes.
Dropped this one early on me, Ivan! I'm still half asleep, drinking a coffee at work following along while some morning tasks run. Your diagnostic skills are second to none. Thanks for the morning knowledge and entertainment!
Nice diagram diag! As a field tech I replaced a lot of fuses and cleaned up corroded grounds after spring storms. The issue that caused it could have been any number of uncommon events leading to a power surge. Tearing the dash apart can create a lot of uncommon events especially if high current is applied to a lower current controlled circuit or (an unconnected connector!). Another huge rabbit hole Plugged!
wow......a criminal would fix it as you did, then charge $3,000.00 and claim they had to removed the dash and re-install the dash....U are the BEST! Honor first!!!!
Nice diagnostics, as usual. Good job, Ivan. Watching all your videos two things become crystal clear: 1) one MUST have access to good wiring diagrams (and know how to read them) and 2) have an investigative mind grounded in logic.
Have a little PHAD with your coffee. Yep. This is a good morning. Hey Ivan, I used my Thinktool on a 1994 Chevrolet the other day. Had full access to all the limited data available on the OBD1 system. ;) Could read and clear codes and read the data stream.
@@johnchambers12 I still use an old AutoXray 6000 scan tool for my OBD 1 cars. Mine has all of the enhanced information for the domestics and I believe Toyota and gives quite a bit of information.
That is good to know. I have not tried my Thinktool Pros on my three OBD 1 vehicles. I usually just grab my old AutoXray 6000 scanner for those. I will have to try the Pros on one of them next time.
That was a good one, Ivan. I thought for sure that the problems were all going to be related. Wiring diagrams and logic, but don't discount your experience. That contributed a lot to this one as well.
Crazy similar Connector. I once Messed up With a connector in an Honda Fuse Box causing The wipers, headlamp and charging system malfunction 😅.. Yes No one is above Mistakes!
Superb Diag, following the data... Thanks for sharing! It's not often you hear an "ever since..." story about himself it's usually blaming someone else😅
Excellent video, Ivan. It shows that even when you don't have the diagnostics systems we have gotten used to available to you, following the logic and wiring will lead you in the correct direction.
I still think these were the best Honda MDX's ever made. My ex-boss (now my friend) has one of these and it's almost ready to roll over 500,000km (300K miles). The transmission gave up about 20,000km ago when a bearing went in the transmission but the engine is still strong. She rust proofed it every year and is religious in her maintenance. It cost her $4,000 CDN for a transmission rebuild and she was happy to pay it because she loves the SUV so much.
Something I used do to myself relying on memory and logic in reassembly, now I take pictures of all. It fits it must go there...good theory, but not true
I used own 2000 Hyundai accent. It requires to remove whole dash same way to replace heater core. Its that way cuz pipes are special shape and ho through the firewall. 😂. So I just cut the pipes and replaced the core itself and used some heater hoses and hose clamps. I sold it 4 years later and new owners had to replace the heater core 9 years after the replacement. He found me on Facebook thanking me for the previous repair and idea to fix it easier.
I had similar on a Truck I loved from CARMAX, years ago. They noticed blend door broken, offered to send it out to fix it, 2006 RAM HEMI Longhorn regular cab. I got impatient, and passed on it. Was a LONG send-out fix. However, research shows a place called HEATER-TREATER that makes METAL doors, and if I did it, I would go the extra cost, and install metal doors, that have metal hinges. Never break again! Welp, none for an Acura, but there is a way on the 2002-2008 Dodge-RAM where you not tear whole dash out. Just one access hole behind the glove box needs enlarging, then it is pretty easy.
I worked customer technical support help line for AT&T Communications systems for years. I learned quickly that the first words from a client regarding their problem was that they were lying or simply did not know what the problem was. Same issue with you customers complaints.
I love your vieos and the analytical approach you take for your diagnosis. People are amazing. Blame everything on the repair. I was in automotive repair at the dealer level for over 50 years, and would love to have a dime for every complaint that had nothing to do with the original repair.
Wow! You really went to work on that Acura! Usually when you troubleshoot you usually find a bad ground; more so than any other technician I know, Ivan. It just seems like you have a knack for finding bad grounds. I would have been willing to bet before you started that all of this would have been related to the dash removal. Before I got home to watch this video, I was in a neighboring town and I started home and couldn't shift the 'ol Marquis out of park. There is a plastic panel above the brake pedal held on by plastic push pins. I got that panel off and there was indeed a green crusty wire hanging from the connector. I pushed that wire in and got home. I have a connector to replace and it is because of you that I was able to do that, so, thank you. GREAT VIDEO!
IVAN, awesome approach and thought process you always amaze me by ur approach to tackle those electric problems bravo brother and thanks for showing all the steps u done by showing the wiring diagram really appreciated. cheeeeeers
I had a similar issue with the lights not working in the door position. I pulled down the dome light, opened it up and it turned out the contacts were gummed up in the door position. Cleaned up the contacts and it worked fine.
I believe it's a case of "Hyper-Awareness" in that the customer was looking for something broken after the fact and wants to blame the last technician that worked on it. Great video and always good to start with the basics.
Yeah you get that but from the photo I think it was a DIY friend or something like that & that is most likely why he was blaming the repair on the dash removal & re installation.
Excellent case study Professor Ivan! Yes, that was an unexcusable rookie mistake by the customer on the fob and fog light issues, but I know that it is very easy to miss a connector when reinstalling a dash. I've done it myself replacing an evaporator on a 2008 Avalon. What a complicated mess! 😨
When power transistors are involved, it's a good bet that's where the problem is. Doesn't matter whether it's an amplifier, an inverter, or a light dimmer. You can test them using the diode function on your meter.
Regarding the faulty electronic “ fuse box” controller for the dome lighting, Toyota/Lexus use a similar item called an “integration relay” Not sure if this applies but the Toyota units have a fusible resistor (fuse) on the PCB usually around 10 Ohms which blows with excess current to protect the components. I noticed a possible one that looks burnt near to the large electrolytic capacitors, just above the OKI marking labelled component R1.
So important when taking things apart to label and mark connectors and other things.. Or else its going to be a headache. More care taken in disassembly makes assembly go much better.
The customer probably got confused with the whole thing and did not know where to start. Like a pilot losing orientation, suddenly what is happening is completely different from what he was expecting and doesn't trust anything he sees in front of him anymore.😂
Redemption for original tech/shop stuck with miserable blend door job. I did a water pump once and customer returned fuming next day saying I f*cked up their horn. I removed horn connector (2 ft away), cleaned it and Wala, horn worked. Gave it back to old lady with no charge. Explained the 2 problems were not related. A begrudging "ok" was all I got. Learned something that day... never give away free work to undeserving customers.
My “99 Corolla was driving me mad abs light was on I replaced wheel sensors abs relay turned out all my brake lights were out that fixed it. The last thing I checked turned out to be the easiest fix!!
One odd quirk on Hondas is that the cheap little $5 switch that turns on each map light is normally closed. And the lamp assembly gets ground from chassis inside the lamp assembly. (Thus the switch itself loses ground and the map lights work but not dome). I would triple check on MDX if this is the issue.
Ivan, I have an Autel as well and recently ran into the same issue with it as well where it would not recognize a 2004 Elantra keyfob but other fobs worked just fine. The Elantra keyfob worked with a Rotunda tester
Had an 08 Taco in here the other day and customer complained of no fog lights. He also had a low beam out, so he was running on high beams. Come to find out, the fog lights ONLY work with headlamps on and low beams only. You hit the dimmer to switch to brights and the fogs lights go out. ;)
It’s actually illegal to have your fog lights operating with your highbeams on. That’s why all manufacturers have them turn off with the highbeams. Will fail Pennsylvania state inspection, if they work with the high beams
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics My point being that the customer had no idea. He has only had the truck about 6 months. Constant problems, believe it or not.
@@Gilboy64 He brought the truck in for another issue and asked me to put a low beam bulb in and check his fog lights. I had to explain to him why they only work with low beams, and he had been running on high beams. His hunting buggy. My state actually did away with inspections completely in 1998. It shows too.
I have this same car in 2002.. I got it in 2019 for only seventeen hundred dollen.. lol.. It's a great car. I just wish it was a manual like my other vehicles, then it would be my favorite.
@@GregoryGlessnerViolin When I got it, it only had 155k miles. nearly 90% tread on all tires. Absolutely everything works and not a drop of oil leaking on this thing anywhere. Fully loaded.. 3 rows of heated leather seats, heated mirrors, moon roof, AWD, 3.5L honda engine, dual climate control with the rear controls, super COLD AC.. has after market cd player.. clarion, alpine or aiwa (I forget exactly-- some exotic name). 6 disc changer under the seat.. It might as well be a new car. It's in literally perfect condition, even now-- 5 years later. They wanted fourty five hundred for it-- but I just kept stalling for a week or 2 and kept bidding them way dow.. and somehow they agreed to seventeen hundred. lol.. It's just built right.. I love this thing for what it is.
Just watching and listening to what you were told by the customer, it makes one wonder how many of the issues were present before the dash was removed and he just realized them afterwords? Great job Ivan, like they say KISS- Keep It Simple Stupid-- well that's if you can
Ah. An overpriced sister to the Honda Pilot. This was an interesting case study for sure. It seems that every manufacture uses a few neighboring connectors somewhere that can fit together but are not meant to go together. The body guys at my shop are great at finding them. I was expecting that to be the case here. And sure enough, bingo! Great find Ivan! Now I am not trying to insult anyone. But I have seen countless times where a new customer states that their vehicle was in perfect condition before any work began. Minus the issue that brought it in for of course. When it really wasn't.
I wonder if at the end of some of his jobs that Ivan throws his hands up and cries out, these hands have been touched by god? 😉😁 I'm sure he's too modest for that though. Ivan works on every make and model and works logically through to a solution better than a lot of dealer techs who work only on particular makes and models yet often times do not resolve a problem. Ivan is a true master of all things automotive. It's no wonder why folks bring their vehicles from many hours away. Dealing with dealers can be a really big deal sometimes.
Other than the dome lights all the other problems were from a DFI with NFI (the exception being that plug under the steering column ) . When people do this type of work (dash removal)photos must be taken if it is a DIY special. (I hope you understand mt abreviations at the start.)🤣
Guy called me with a jeep compasss. Said his right turn signal doesn't work. I asked him if he put a new bulb in. Yeah he said he tried that. Iv fixed probably 15 or more of those cars with ground wires issues for turn signal among other things. I spend an hour cutting the ring terminals off and extending the wires. Get done turn on signal and no flashy flashy found a burnt out bulb. Couldn't charge him to repair a ground issue he didn't have yet but was guaranteed to have happen. I mean ya didn't go as far down rabbit hole as me. I always verify customer complaint. It's crazy how customers will relate problems they have to others working on their clapbox. It's funny to see someone do it to themselves.
call me goofy but I bought, back in 1990, a big ol Buick LeSabre. The original 3.8L Series I, OBD I, remarkable GM design. I spent too much money for it. Not that the dealer screwed me but that it was a pricey car AND interest rates were high; something like 15%... OUCH. What stuck in my head was that after all paid off and the car starts to wear out... that an ocassional 1 or 2 month's car payment spent on repair wasn't that bad. So I've kept after that beast... Back when Obama offered "cash for clunkers" I didn't qualify as the 3 8L gets too good gas mileage. So I've still got it. The emissions lady, with years of experience and gray hairs too, told me that old Buicks always pass testing. Wow... I got my money's worth... *I don't have opinion about 2024 Buicks* My point is you can keep up a car by both regular service and by fixing broken $#iT quickly for about what a few monthly new car payments come to and that car will go on forever. (Ok Eric your salt and rust are different... but I guess a frame CAN BE REPLACED too, huh?) Alternately, you can neglect a car and around 150K trade it in for new.. I'll admit my 90 LeSabre is both a Hooptie and a Beater with original paint that looks terrible. But at 380,000 miles it still runs leaving surprised folks at the red light (good acceleration = good MPG.) It's comfortable with upgraded A/C to R134 and new transmission and welded broken driver seat and replaced carpet 2x and headliner R&R... Still has original O2 sensor and cat. Oh yeah, blower motor R&R 2x. 90 LeSabres are scarce at salvage yards but parts are still findable... EBay and all.... I also upgraded my headlights to LED as I'm a senior and vision is not as good as years past. I don't drive at nite much but I gotta see the wet black asphalt pavement. [[Curbless pavement has white fog lines but curbs aren't painted. WHY NOT??]] Guess what my message is: is that like the CarShield commercial says: "Car Shield Cars (a.k.a well maintained cars) go farther." You've been paying for insurance to cover repair expenses so when it breaks you get it fixed... Also, buy a car that you like... (i.e. that's worth keeping) and take care of irritating stuff quickly. (-1-) Buy a car that you like and barely can afford. (Don't become an Uber or pizza delivery type with this car.) (-2-) Keep up on maintenance and repair with thoughs this only costs one or two months of new car payments. (-3-) DON'T LET IRRITATING stuff go unfixed. --------- //I need a paint job//
Ah, the classic coincidence! I've seen things so outlandish and unbelievable that I never told anyone about them. And I've ignored claims about unrelated things causing other things. It's just part of the world we live in..... I know that you know!
Ivan can you direct me to the video where the vehicle had the roof replaced and you found a short to ground in the a pillar area with a test light even though the wire had good continuity? It was a lesson in trusting low ohms on a circuit.
Awesome case study! I've often said, if things aren't adding up, forget what you THINK you know, and start the diagnosis over like you just bought it at the auction (and know nothing about it). Also, (more for cutomers, than techs) it's just human nature to inspect something super close when a repair has been completed, but not everything you find is a result of the repair! When was the last time you inspected every function of your car without any reason to do so?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics You were reading 20v on the scope. Could we have fed 20V to Fog lamp circuit? I am surprised that even the indicator bulb was blown. Odds are low that all three would be blown but these cars are 20 + years old now.
Hello everybody Im the owner. It was quite the chore. Im just a weekend warrior. Took about 2 weeks to do. Sometimes you need a little help. Thankfully Ivan is within driving distance. Thanks Ivan!
And that explains everything just some advice that I have given before seeing your post ANY TIME YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME TAKE PHOTOS !!!!!
My pleasure! 😊
@@LesReeves Words of advice to live by.
you may not feel lucky having these issues... but in my view you are lucky to have someone like Ivan within driving distance!
It happens to the best of us, I replaced a Volvo XC60 dashboard and was having issues once refitted. Turns out Volvo put 2 identical green plugs on the same loom about 3 inches apart, one was for the SIM card reader and the other was for the passenger airbag switch.
Ivan: *breathes sigh of relief at not having to break apart the dash*
I learned, very quickly in my trbl shooting career, to act interested and respectfully listen to the on-site technicians complaints. In reality, everybody has their own their version of problems which could send you down a black hole you might never escape.
Listen, but take it with a grain of salt.
I'm sitting with my cat having a cup of black coffee, watching one of Ivan's videos on a Saturday morning while I wait to go pick up my motorcycle. Life is good.
What bike?
Ahhhh the classic “evil twin connector” scenario. Thank goodness most engineers make each connector slightly different in same areas of harnesses. Great strategic old school diagnosis. Proves the value of test lights.
What a carnage on that dash! So many independent faults coinciding under the same complaint, but only one fault was consequence of the carnage! Great diagnostic and repair, Ivan!
I’ve seen a few of those blend door horror movies. Kudos to the owner for tackling that project. Can’t imagine what that would cost to have it done somewhere. Even with paying Ivan for His work, I’d say the owner did pretty good. The sun is shining, my furry neighbor said winter is over! Great! Time to go do some fun bug work with PHAD reruns going over on the wall. Nice work Ivan. 👍👍🇺🇸
That diagnostic was joyful to watch.
I work in computers and have people say on a weekly basis "Since you last worked on my computer x, y or z isnt working". I think we're all logical beasts at heart even if that means we arrive at the wrong conclusion sometimes.
Dropped this one early on me, Ivan! I'm still half asleep, drinking a coffee at work following along while some morning tasks run. Your diagnostic skills are second to none. Thanks for the morning knowledge and entertainment!
The customer might be surprised, but I bet he's feeling embarrassed too. Great job Ivan
I said to my wife," there's no way ivan will call a module and not peek inside of it" 😂😂 sure enough I was right!!! Great job once again Ivan!!!👍👍
"...the psychology of customers..." Finding that under dash connector was amazing. Thanks Ivan!
Ivan makes it look easy-but it is not-Ivan just happens to have a beautiful mind gifted with logic and reason.
Nice diagram diag! As a field tech I replaced a lot of fuses and cleaned up corroded grounds after spring storms. The issue that caused it could have been any number of uncommon events leading to a power surge. Tearing the dash apart can create a lot of uncommon events especially if high current is applied to a lower current controlled circuit or (an unconnected connector!). Another huge rabbit hole Plugged!
wow......a criminal would fix it as you did, then charge $3,000.00 and claim they had to removed the dash and re-install the dash....U are the BEST! Honor first!!!!
Nice diagnostics, as usual. Good job, Ivan.
Watching all your videos two things become crystal clear: 1) one MUST have access to good wiring diagrams (and know how to read them) and 2) have an investigative mind grounded in logic.
Love seeing you work your magic on stuff like this where a scan tool is useless, Ivan!
amazingly sorted out ivan you really are one of the best...
Have a little PHAD with your coffee. Yep. This is a good morning. Hey Ivan, I used my Thinktool on a 1994 Chevrolet the other day. Had full access to all the limited data available on the OBD1 system. ;) Could read and clear codes and read the data stream.
Wow really? Had no idea ThinkTool would touch anything older than 1996!
It must be backwards compatible with OBD 1 fantastic information . My old Auto X Ray scan tool was the last one i used on OBD 1 that was in 1998.
@@johnchambers12 I still use an old AutoXray 6000 scan tool for my OBD 1 cars. Mine has all of the enhanced information for the domestics and I believe Toyota and gives quite a bit of information.
That is good to know. I have not tried my Thinktool Pros on my three OBD 1 vehicles. I usually just grab my old AutoXray 6000 scanner for those. I will have to try the Pros on one of them next time.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yessir. It came with all the adapters for older vehicles. So far Ive used it for older Toyota and older GM vehicles. ;)
That was a good one, Ivan. I thought for sure that the problems were all going to be related. Wiring diagrams and logic, but don't discount your experience. That contributed a lot to this one as well.
Was all this in one day? I would have been mentally exhausted but it was stimulating watching all these success one after another.
4 hours total one shot 🙂
When you got to the interior lights, I prematurely started giggling and started thinking; light bulbs. Not! Great video!
Crazy similar Connector.
I once Messed up
With a connector in an Honda Fuse Box causing The wipers, headlamp and charging system malfunction 😅..
Yes No one is above Mistakes!
Thanks for the Saturday morning video
Superb Diag, following the data... Thanks for sharing! It's not often you hear an "ever since..." story about himself it's usually blaming someone else😅
Excellent video, Ivan. It shows that even when you don't have the diagnostics systems we have gotten used to available to you, following the logic and wiring will lead you in the correct direction.
Ivan, I enjoyed watching your process. You are very knowledgeable.
Another professionally done diagnosed anc fixed issue!!! great job Ivan you the man
Just a ground problem. And a wire connector in the wrong plug in.
To bad the dome light has a bad electronic component.
Good one Ivan!
I still think these were the best Honda MDX's ever made. My ex-boss (now my friend) has one of these and it's almost ready to roll over 500,000km (300K miles). The transmission gave up about 20,000km ago when a bearing went in the transmission but the engine is still strong. She rust proofed it every year and is religious in her maintenance. It cost her $4,000 CDN for a transmission rebuild and she was happy to pay it because she loves the SUV so much.
Easily my favorite channel other than my music channel Kasio Jones. Thank you for always being so on point and entertaining!
Well done. I could see how that 3-pin connector could have stumped me without a wiring diagram. Good catch.
Something I used do to myself relying on memory and logic in reassembly, now I take pictures of all. It fits it must go there...good theory, but not true
Outstanding diagnosis and repair. Murphy showed up to wreak some havoc. Greta step by-by-step troubleshooting.
_Greta_ Tunberg?
And you are so awesome that you never made a spelling error even with auto-correct. Piss off little man.@@erik_dk842
Great combination of isolated issues and one self inflicted problem Ivan!
I used own 2000 Hyundai accent. It requires to remove whole dash same way to replace heater core. Its that way cuz pipes are special shape and ho through the firewall. 😂. So I just cut the pipes and replaced the core itself and used some heater hoses and hose clamps. I sold it 4 years later and new owners had to replace the heater core 9 years after the replacement. He found me on Facebook thanking me for the previous repair and idea to fix it easier.
This one must have been pretty satisfying! Nice work by using the schematic diagrams and your head! Great work.
Amazing job! The video makes it look easy but a lot of though and research goes into this type of repair!
Very Accurate diagnostic... try Alex maybe he has interested in some collaboration to fix the board ...if customer can pay why not to try...
I had similar on a Truck I loved from CARMAX, years ago. They noticed blend door broken, offered to send it out to fix it, 2006 RAM HEMI Longhorn regular cab. I got impatient, and passed on it. Was a LONG send-out fix. However, research shows a place called HEATER-TREATER that makes METAL doors, and if I did it, I would go the extra cost, and install metal doors, that have metal hinges. Never break again! Welp, none for an Acura, but there is a way on the 2002-2008 Dodge-RAM where you not tear whole dash out. Just one access hole behind the glove box needs enlarging, then it is pretty easy.
I worked customer technical support help line for AT&T Communications systems for years. I learned quickly that the first words from a client regarding their problem was that they were lying or simply did not know what the problem was. Same issue with you customers complaints.
I love your vieos and the analytical approach you take for your diagnosis. People are amazing. Blame everything on the repair. I was in automotive repair at the dealer level for over 50 years, and would love to have a dime for every complaint that had nothing to do with the original repair.
Wow! You really went to work on that Acura! Usually when you troubleshoot you usually find a bad ground; more so than any other technician I know, Ivan. It just seems like you have a knack for finding bad grounds. I would have been willing to bet before you started that all of this would have been related to the dash removal. Before I got home to watch this video, I was in a neighboring town and I started home and couldn't shift the 'ol Marquis out of park. There is a plastic panel above the brake pedal held on by plastic push pins. I got that panel off and there was indeed a green crusty wire hanging from the connector. I pushed that wire in and got home. I have a connector to replace and it is because of you that I was able to do that, so, thank you. GREAT VIDEO!
He may not be a electronics expert (although some of his recent vids have been quite up there with Ivan )is Eric O at SMA he can smell a bad ground.🤣
IVAN, awesome approach and thought process you always amaze me by ur approach to tackle those electric problems bravo brother and thanks for showing all the steps u done by showing the wiring diagram really appreciated. cheeeeeers
I had a similar issue with the lights not working in the door position. I pulled down the dome light, opened it up and it turned out the contacts were gummed up in the door position. Cleaned up the contacts and it worked fine.
you definately earn your pay bud, much respect.
I believe it's a case of "Hyper-Awareness" in that the customer was looking for something broken after the fact and wants to blame the last technician that worked on it. Great video and always good to start with the basics.
Yeah you get that but from the photo I think it was a DIY friend or something like that & that is most likely why he was blaming the repair on the dash removal & re installation.
The last technician was the owner himself lol!
Excellent case study Professor Ivan! Yes, that was an unexcusable rookie mistake by the customer on the fob and fog light issues, but I know that it is very easy to miss a connector when reinstalling a dash. I've done it myself replacing an evaporator on a 2008 Avalon. What a complicated mess! 😨
Again take photos they do not lie!!!!!
really enjoyed this one. That connector was a really easy mistake to make , it probably would have bitten me also lol
When power transistors are involved, it's a good bet that's where the problem is. Doesn't matter whether it's an amplifier, an inverter, or a light dimmer. You can test them using the diode function on your meter.
Regarding the faulty electronic “ fuse box” controller for the dome lighting, Toyota/Lexus use a similar item called an “integration relay” Not sure if this applies but the Toyota units have a fusible resistor (fuse) on the PCB usually around 10 Ohms which blows with excess current to protect the components. I noticed a possible one that looks burnt near to the large electrolytic capacitors, just above the OKI marking labelled component R1.
So important when taking things apart to label and mark connectors and other things.. Or else its going to be a headache. More care taken in disassembly makes assembly go much better.
I love the coustomer feed back at the end of your videos but this time no feed back.
It's all about understanding the logic / root cause / policy... kinda like the flag on the wall. You're all right Ivan! (See what I did there?) 👍😊
Ok ….. I am officially amazed
Great video Ivan you have a great knowledge of how everything should work ✅ brilliant
That's,a really nice job!! Thanks Ivan,you are a master!!
Once again Ivan shows us how to eat an elephant. Very nice job Ivan. I also detected some KISS method in there too!
Nicely done, for sure a head scratcher
The customer probably got confused with the whole thing and did not know where to start. Like a pilot losing orientation, suddenly what is happening is completely different from what he was expecting and doesn't trust anything he sees in front of him anymore.😂
Learning as always from you, Spasiva 🤝🏻
Redemption for original tech/shop stuck with miserable blend door job. I did a water pump once and customer returned fuming next day saying I f*cked up their horn. I removed horn connector (2 ft away), cleaned it and Wala, horn worked. Gave it back to old lady with no charge. Explained the 2 problems were not related.
A begrudging "ok" was all I got. Learned something that day... never give away free work to undeserving customers.
My “99 Corolla was driving me mad abs light was on I replaced wheel sensors abs relay turned out all my brake lights were out that fixed it. The last thing I checked turned out to be the easiest fix!!
Time to harness your inner north ridge fix and replace the driver in that smart fuse box......if you can get it unplugged without mangling it 😊
One odd quirk on Hondas is that the cheap little $5 switch that turns on each map light is normally closed. And the lamp assembly gets ground from chassis inside the lamp assembly. (Thus the switch itself loses ground and the map lights work but not dome). I would triple check on MDX if this is the issue.
Ivan, I have an Autel as well and recently ran into the same issue with it as well where it would not recognize a 2004 Elantra keyfob but other fobs worked just fine. The Elantra keyfob worked with a Rotunda tester
Cool video Ivan.nice troubleshooting.
Admit it ,you had fun on this one.. Cheers..
Had an 08 Taco in here the other day and customer complained of no fog lights. He also had a low beam out, so he was running on high beams. Come to find out, the fog lights ONLY work with headlamps on and low beams only. You hit the dimmer to switch to brights and the fogs lights go out. ;)
That's how pretty much all fog light systems have worked on all cars for the past 30 years ;)
It’s actually illegal to have your fog lights operating with your highbeams on. That’s why all manufacturers have them turn off with the highbeams. Will fail Pennsylvania state inspection, if they work with the high beams
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics My point being that the customer had no idea. He has only had the truck about 6 months. Constant problems, believe it or not.
@@Gilboy64 He brought the truck in for another issue and asked me to put a low beam bulb in and check his fog lights. I had to explain to him why they only work with low beams, and he had been running on high beams. His hunting buggy. My state actually did away with inspections completely in 1998. It shows too.
I have this same car in 2002.. I got it in 2019 for only seventeen hundred dollen.. lol.. It's a great car.
I just wish it was a manual like my other vehicles, then it would be my favorite.
That's a nice beater for $1700! Market value is probably way more now that the car market is nuts.
@@GregoryGlessnerViolin When I got it, it only had 155k miles. nearly 90% tread on all tires. Absolutely everything works and not a drop of oil leaking on this thing anywhere. Fully loaded.. 3 rows of heated leather seats, heated mirrors, moon roof, AWD, 3.5L honda engine, dual climate control with the rear controls, super COLD AC.. has after market cd player.. clarion, alpine or aiwa (I forget exactly-- some exotic name). 6 disc changer under the seat.. It might as well be a new car. It's in literally perfect condition, even now-- 5 years later. They wanted fourty five hundred for it-- but I just kept stalling for a week or 2 and kept bidding them way dow.. and somehow they agreed to seventeen hundred. lol.. It's just built right.. I love this thing for what it is.
Very interesting process. 👌
That smart fuse box, made by OKI, did your Printer fire up! OKI make tons of printers. Never knew they did car stuff!😀
Just watching and listening to what you were told by the customer, it makes one wonder how many of the issues were present before the dash was removed and he just realized them afterwords? Great job Ivan, like they say KISS- Keep It Simple Stupid-- well that's if you can
You’re amazing, Ivan! Great work!
That was awesome love old school wire chasing
Ah. An overpriced sister to the Honda Pilot. This was an interesting case study for sure. It seems that every manufacture uses a few neighboring connectors somewhere that can fit together but are not meant to go together. The body guys at my shop are great at finding them. I was expecting that to be the case here. And sure enough, bingo! Great find Ivan!
Now I am not trying to insult anyone. But I have seen countless times where a new customer states that their vehicle was in perfect condition before any work began. Minus the issue that brought it in for of course. When it really wasn't.
I wonder if at the end of some of his jobs that Ivan throws his hands up and cries out, these hands have been touched by god? 😉😁
I'm sure he's too modest for that though.
Ivan works on every make and model and works logically through to a solution better than a lot of dealer techs who work only on particular makes and models yet often times do not resolve a problem.
Ivan is a true master of all things automotive. It's no wonder why folks bring their vehicles from many hours away. Dealing with dealers can be a really big deal sometimes.
One of the best vehicles that Honda produced!!!!!
Amazing
Wish you could go to Washington and fix it.👍
5:00 2003 Acura Fob looks to use 308MHz, what range is the Autel & TDB003 listening for?
Nicely done Ivan!! (Ivan the Russian rabbit hole filler! ;) )
Well that was much easier than I thought it was going to after all
Other than the dome lights all the other problems were from a DFI with NFI (the exception being that plug under the steering column ) . When people do this type of work (dash removal)photos must be taken if it is a DIY special. (I hope you understand mt abreviations at the start.)🤣
Great stuff as always Ivan
Guy called me with a jeep compasss. Said his right turn signal doesn't work. I asked him if he put a new bulb in. Yeah he said he tried that. Iv fixed probably 15 or more of those cars with ground wires issues for turn signal among other things. I spend an hour cutting the ring terminals off and extending the wires. Get done turn on signal and no flashy flashy found a burnt out bulb. Couldn't charge him to repair a ground issue he didn't have yet but was guaranteed to have happen. I mean ya didn't go as far down rabbit hole as me. I always verify customer complaint. It's crazy how customers will relate problems they have to others working on their clapbox. It's funny to see someone do it to themselves.
That's why you still DIAGNOSE the issue and not make assumptions just based on customer information :)
call me goofy but I bought, back in 1990, a big ol Buick LeSabre. The original 3.8L Series I, OBD I, remarkable GM design. I spent too much money for it. Not that the dealer screwed me but that it was a pricey car AND interest rates were high; something like 15%... OUCH.
What stuck in my head was that after all paid off and the car starts to wear out... that an ocassional 1 or 2 month's car payment spent on repair wasn't that bad. So I've kept after that beast...
Back when Obama offered "cash for clunkers" I didn't qualify as the 3 8L gets too good gas mileage. So I've still got it.
The emissions lady, with years of experience and gray hairs too, told me that old Buicks always pass testing. Wow... I got my money's worth... *I don't have opinion about 2024 Buicks*
My point is you can keep up a car by both regular service and by fixing broken $#iT quickly for about what a few monthly new car payments come to and that car will go on forever. (Ok Eric your salt and rust are different... but I guess a frame CAN BE REPLACED too, huh?)
Alternately, you can neglect a car and around 150K trade it in for new.. I'll admit my 90 LeSabre is both a Hooptie and a Beater with original paint that looks terrible. But at 380,000 miles it still runs leaving surprised folks at the red light (good acceleration = good MPG.) It's comfortable with upgraded A/C to R134 and new transmission and welded broken driver seat and replaced carpet 2x and headliner R&R... Still has original O2 sensor and cat. Oh yeah, blower motor R&R 2x.
90 LeSabres are scarce at salvage yards but parts are still findable... EBay and all....
I also upgraded my headlights to LED as I'm a senior and vision is not as good as years past. I don't drive at nite much but I gotta see the wet black asphalt pavement. [[Curbless pavement has white fog lines but curbs aren't painted. WHY NOT??]]
Guess what my message is: is that like the CarShield commercial says: "Car Shield Cars (a.k.a well maintained cars) go farther." You've been paying for insurance to cover repair expenses so when it breaks you get it fixed...
Also, buy a car that you like... (i.e. that's worth keeping) and take care of irritating stuff quickly.
(-1-) Buy a car that you like and barely can afford. (Don't become an Uber or pizza delivery type with this car.)
(-2-) Keep up on maintenance and repair with thoughs this only costs one or two months of new car payments.
(-3-) DON'T LET IRRITATING stuff go unfixed.
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//I need a paint job//
Excellent find great job
You're the best that I have seen.
Way early in watching vid but, can smell the frustration
Classic “ever since….” hysteria 😂
Yep, I'm sure the customer found those existing problems when giving the car a thorough once over after the dash came out.
Awesome work 👍 ivan
I had to laugh when your fob tester mislead you, but you still found the fault! I guess even Murphy gets tripped up by Murphy.
Ah, the classic coincidence! I've seen things so outlandish and unbelievable that I never told anyone about them. And I've ignored claims about unrelated things causing other things. It's just part of the world we live in..... I know that you know!
Very entertaining repair.
600 bucks right there. Good job boss.
Ivan can you direct me to the video where the vehicle had the roof replaced and you found a short to ground in the a pillar area with a test light even though the wire had good continuity? It was a lesson in trusting low ohms on a circuit.
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@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thank you! Really enjoy your channel !
Awesome case study! I've often said, if things aren't adding up, forget what you THINK you know, and start the diagnosis over like you just bought it at the auction (and know nothing about it). Also, (more for cutomers, than techs) it's just human nature to inspect something super close when a repair has been completed, but not everything you find is a result of the repair! When was the last time you inspected every function of your car without any reason to do so?
Ivan its possible when the original repair done someone shorted something causing all the blown bulbs
No... How do you "short out a bulb"? 🤔
Maybe got the +- reversed and created a mini black hole. 🤔
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics You were reading 20v on the scope. Could we have fed 20V to Fog lamp circuit? I am surprised that even the indicator bulb was blown. Odds are low that all three would be blown but these cars are 20 + years old now.
Awesome work!
Try the switches on the dome light bulbs. They go bad and cause this issue. I was really hoping you would find the path to it.
Changing a FOB battery would be pretty obvious to me. Same with bulbs. So simple and obvious.