I, personally, own this Hercules Miter saw, and keep it in my garage/shop. I've owned mine for about a year. I'm very happy with my purchase. I'm not sure if I'd buy it to use on a job site, but it's likely good enough. I used to check it to make sure that it was square just about every week at first. I don't do that at all anymore. It's square, and there's no sense in wasting the time to prove it to me. I've used mostly just Rigid, Makita, and Dewalt saws on various job sites. I purchased the rolling miter saw stand at Harbor Freight when I purchased this saw. It seems as sturdy as any premium saw stand that I've ever used, but I haven't used this one yet. I think that the game changer is the shadow cutting line. I have more confidence in it than I've ever had with the laser lines that are common on all the other saws. I've never trusted the Laser Lines. It has an amazing amount of power, and I'm glad that I saved the money, and bought this saw.
I bough5 this about a year ago and been using it hard, this thing is a beast and hasn’t slowed a bit yet. The shadow line is great, It was square out of the box zero adjustments and couldn’t be happier with my purchase. I was looking at the DeWalt DWS 780 but after looking at both I couldn’t see spending nearly double for the same saw. I’m a DIY’er who does a fair amount, in middle of kitchen renovation down to the studs and recently built a bathroom vanity and garage door. My only complaint is the dust collection but I look at the accuracy as more important. As for weight it’s same as most others out there so not sure why knocking it and any sliding saw will take up the same space, DWS780 isn’t lighter and need less space? This saw is absolutely worth the money!
I just bought one. Everything is solid. As for one of your bad issues is the amount of space needed, you need to take into consideration that for a more compact saw you lose cutting capacity. So for me it’s not a bad issue.
Great review. The proof is in the work. IMHO, the whole Hercules line from HF seems to show that they have done some work and research to improve quality, and offers overall some serious improvements over previous tool offerings. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
The Hercules is a huge upgrade compared to the Chicago Electric Miter Saws LOL. I had the Chicago Electric 10" and 12" Sliding dual bevel compound miter saws, they were good, but the Hercules is a lot better, a much better built saw, the build quality of the Chicago Electric models are not nearly as good.
ive had mine for a few years now, take it out to job sites daily, think is a beast of a saw, only problem i have had with it is broken handle, when a worker dropped a wheel barrow on it in back of truck!
love this miter saw . i use it on a stand mostly outside . size is never an issue. got it on sale and a a member prid for about $329. wait for coupon and sales.
When moving the clamp just lift it from the back and place it where desired, also placing a 1 1/2 inch block between clamp and cut piece will allow clamp not having to be screwed all the down resulting in easy-to-use movement of the clamp. it is common for miter saws to have a poor dusting system regardless of the brand. The size of this saw is great, thanks nice video I'll be buying one tomorrow. For those who have space issues will Thank you for giving a heads up on the size of this saw, I have to tell anyone that don't know that the quality of this saw take no back seat to those $700.00 saws, it was really designed for quality save your money buy this saw.
an added note. i bought the ridged rolling miter saw stand . perfect using outside on a job site or in the garage. if your a contractor than the bosch is the best .
i dropped mine after two years and broke that top black handle off and cracked the motor housing. i plugged it in and ran a good 200 awkward cuts through it and it still preformed fine. I'll just live without the top plastic handle for now.
I was really surprised how much cutting power (and torque) this saw had out of the box. I've used other (10" saws) previously and was pretty surprised with the speed and cutting ability of this Dewalt saw.I have bolted mine to a table to minimize movement which I highly recommend.This is a Great saw th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe with a light to see your cutting line (not a laser line).I'd recommend this saw fro anyone looking to upgrade from a 10" miter saw.
Looks like a great saw. Space is not a problem shop is 1600 Sq feet the saw would be mounted in a permanent bench witch is 8 foot by 8 foot in center of shop. I enjoyed your video on the saw. Thanks!!
I see this complaint about space a lot on these sites. Bosch, Delta, & Ridged use a hinged arm rather than steel rods. If your biggest problem is the space it takes, I don't think you should've purchased a sliding miter saw at all. That said, I just got mine & I'm planning on building the needed cabinet space on either side of the planned saw location. I'm debating either making a base for my saw that rolls in & out rather than the permanent dedicated floor space you did. My other option is to simply do a cutout to fit the base & where I mount it will be a slide out shelf using 100Lbs rated drawer slides & a fixed cabinet underneath that equals the depth of the saw when the saw is in it's most compact position. This means my cabinet length will all be as deep as the saw is with blade forward & angled at 60° when not in use. My other consideration will be to just make my cabinets as deep as the most space intensive tool I keep at the wall like a drill press or bandsaw
Agreed 100%. They literally have every saw on display at HF. I've owned my share of compound miters over the years, they've all been space hogs no matter how you look at it.
Im on hercules miter saw number 3 now. First one burnt up in about 6 months and the second about 8 months later. I will say i am not a hobbiest and i do use my miter saw multiple times a week. The overall build and accuracy is good its just the motors are junk. Definitely get the warranty..so glad i did.
Fantastic saw for the price. I just replaced a Hitachi that had multiple issues. This saw is solid, and the miter stops are no joke. $300 can't be beat, especially since the next step up would be $700 for the Bosch design without rails. I'd rather put that money into more tools or materials.
I’ll be honest. I think this Saw is going to bea Game Changer. I ran a LargeArchitectual WoodworkingInstallation Department and we use the Dewalt Sliding Compound 12” Saws they were very Versatile To Cut most Trim and Molding s but they go out of Adjustmentvery quickly and Often Yes you can dial them in with some Time and a few Tools but this HF saw with the Lazer is going to give Dewalt a good Competition I. Do like the Dewalt Dual Bevel /NonSliding 12” Miter Saw the best for a DedicatedShop Saw and as long as that doesn’t get misused or abused it will remain one of the most Accurate Tools in your Shop my Personal Saw is over 20 years Old and all I’ve had to do is Sharpen the blade that came on the Saw I was. lucky enough to have a Company Come to my Place Of Business. Pick up the Blades and Return them Professionally Sharpened or Repaired as needed at no Cost to me Personally !
I got to this video from a post on the woodworking for yuutubers on FB group. I can say the dewalt , similar design is very similar. I had dewalt saw horse looking stand for it as well. It was great at job sites. Still heavy like yours. However in a shop. It steals a lot of shop space even with the saw horse style base. Lots of Realestate. Thanks for sharing your video. I enjoyed it and keep up the great work. You got a new sub here. PS my dewalt died on me after I got my new shop I built with it dried in. I replaced it with a saw that doesn’t have rhe bars coming out the back like rhe dewalt of yours. I am so happy with its new space saving design. Fits on a normal 24” cabinet bad now. ;) Have a blessed week. Happy new year and may your channel keep growing. Dale.
@@JARMade I went with the Bosch. I am pleased with it so far. I will post a pic reply on rhe FB group so you can see it. Just don’t laugh at my interior wallls. That’s a work in progress. Hahaha. So far so good and it has a lot of fine tuning options for it as well to dial it in to work right.
Thanks for the info. With my limited knowledge of this kind of saw, I don't know why I might care about the difficulty of positioning the clamp. As for the space needed from front to back. That is a very good point to make but I can't tell from your video whether this differs between brands that have the same potential for cut sizes. Without these details, I can't see any reason to prefer a specific brand or to avoid this one. I get the impression that all included vacuum attachments are going to be underwhelming on home owner grade tools.
I bought the 12 inch Hercules sliding dual bevel compound miter saw after months of various manufacturers. Actually I made my decisions on features and less on price. After much evaluation because it seemed to have the best quality and features.
I’m on m 3rd one. I buy the warranty and replace it every year because I trim out a few houses a week and it sits in the bed of my truck in the elements. I love this saw.
Great review Jesus! I can tell you were working in a lot more b-roll into this one. Also worth pointing out this saw looks incredibly similar to the Dewalt 779 which is a fantastic saw.
I have this saw in my shop. I purchased it to replace an old, worn-out Craftsman radial arm saw. I was aware of the space it would require, and it definitely takes up less space than the radial arm saw did. Overall, I have been impressed with the saw, it performs as well as the Dewalt does. The dust collection is a small disappointment, but I am sure I can modify it to connect to my dust collection system and make it work better.
You had a radial arm saw, I'm sure the miter saw isn't any different in dust management, at least the Craftsman Radial Arm Saws I had were not into managing any dust, other than throwing it in every direction imaginable LOL. Yep, miter saws came out and I got rid of the miter saws....they work great for ripping though.
@@wildbill23c I built a box around my saw to contain most of the dust. about once a week I take my shop vac and clean it out. Lets face it, dust collection on any miter saw stinks.
To be fair @ 3:43 - The steel rails are not an issue with the HF Hercules - every sub-$600 Sliding Miter saw is going to have Steel Rails that stick out the back - they are the price to pay to get a 12" depth of cut unless your will to spend a lot more
Awesome review and spot on!! I got.this sa back in June and although I knew it wasn't going to go back against the wall say like a Delta Cruzer I also didn't realize how far off the wall it needed to be either. I made it work in my small shop as well and am still extremely happy with the purchase.
@@JARMade Yea sounds like space is a priority in your case, since you have a space issue, I think the perfect miter saw for you would be the Makita LS1219L it's a very nice and rugged saw, you don't have to be concerned about the back and forth movement of the motor and the blade, you push the saw against the wall and forget it because it has inside movement, not outside movement, I'm not sure if it's an upgrade but it's a big 12" saw with nice features such as, up to 60-degree cutting both right and left, the big problem for me is it's nearly twice the price as the Hercules and Quality is about the same, $760.00
Ive had this same saw almost 2 years now woth no issues but it is getting time for a blade upgrade. That clamp isnt really as bad as what was portayed lol
I use Diablo blades in all my saws, they're great blades, and very reasonably priced...I wait until they have the 2 packs on sale and pickup a pack of 10 and 12 inch blades. With regular use they last quite a while. Although, the Hercules saw blades do seem very good as well, but about the same price as the Diablo, and they look very similar to each other as well, wouldn't be surprised if Diablo has their hands in the Hercules blade making LOL
Nice review, in a shop setting a backstop hood style dust collector is the way to go. In regards to weight size the 7 1/4" battery dewalt is the way to go I doubt this is any heavier than the 12" dewalt which is a monster beast. No 12" is really truly a cabinet shop l/ jobsite finish saw to much blade wobble due to size. That said it's. Good enough for the majority.
I had the Dewalt 7-1/4" 20V miter saw, it works great, it ended up being left at work permanently, and use it quite a bit. For most tasks I'm doing the 7-1/4" blade size is plenty, I just need to talk them into getting me a small table saw or at least a circular saw so I can rip boards down that are too wide, rather than having to pack them home and use my own table saw, power, and time.
Every video I've seen, they've all said the same thing, the only real downside is the dust collection set up. Which obviously can be fixed. So if that's the only negative, then I'm down to get one.
Agree! My professional “work”shop is littered with Dewalt. I was very skeptical at first of Hercules line…that I found out was very wrong. My personal shop is my favorite Woodshop now.
I used this saw in my shop for 4 years. Cant beat it for the money. Its big and takes up a lot of space and the dust collection is terrible but other than that its a great value. I recently upgraded to a makita.
Other than the ridiculously over priced Festool Miter Saw there really isn't any miter saw that has good dust collection LOL. I think the designers of Miter Saws in general vision them only being used on jobsites mostly sitting outside so they never concentrate on dust collection it seems....sadly its just the opposite, or maybe closer to 50/50 a lot of people own these types of saws and they are in their workshop, garage, basement, etc. So they really need to start concentrating more on how to collect all the dang dust these saws throw everywhere...its like a sawdust confetti thrower every time you cut something with one LOL....and Radial Arm Saws are terrible for dust collection too, but I don't think any company makes a Radial Arm Saw anymore, at least I haven't seen any around stores for a long time.
Excellent review. Looks like a great tool. (Like your mom) haha. By far my favorite part. As far a the saw itself. I am surprised at the overall length. Nice work.
What exactly exploded ? Was it the electric motor or the blade ? I saw another video where the blade was defective If I was to get one i would definitely buy a quality blade instead of risking it
Not really. If you are worried about it taking up space you shouldn't be looking at sliding miter saws, rather be looking at the fixed head non-sliding types....or one of the newer styles with the hinged type sliding system, which from what I've seen is great if the shop you have is really tiny. I just roll my miter saw out away from the wall on its stand when I need to use it and roll it back when I'm done. But I've been using sliding miter saws for years....and before that Radial Arm Saws...if you want a space waster buy a radial arm saw, then complain about the space it takes up, and the amount of dust you find in places you didn't think you'd ever get dust in.
I wouldn't really say that the size of the saw is a downside. That really your fault or personal needs. It's not the companies fault that you have a small shop.
Or that he doesn't own a tape measure to measure the space where the saw is going to be put, or not build something that only fits 1 size of a tool, knowing full well you'll end up replacing it in a few months, or years when you decide you wanna different color.
If I bought another Miter Saw at some point I might look closer at the Ridgid that doesn't have the rails, but I don't really have an issue with space so its not a problem.....people who whine about how much space a sliding compound miter saw takes, has obviously never owned a radial arm saw, or a table saw bigger than a portable one you can throw in your car.
No miter saw has good dust collection. It all sucks. You have to augment it to get it to your liking. I have the $8 million dollar Bosch sliding compound miter with the glide system and it's a pile of shit for accuracy. Run with the dual rails. Yeah they take up more bench space, but at least they're accurate. My Bosch is total garbage; tech support said it's messed up but they won't warrant it.
I bought this a couple of years ago. It is pretty much pure junk. I discovered (too late for return) that the fence is not even close to being within plane of either side. If you are looking at it, the left side of the fence that is bolted to the saw is not coplanar with the right side. If you place a straightedge on the left side and slide it towards the right side, it will hit the leading edge of the fence. Basically, the fences are tilted towards each other. I removed the entire fence system from the saw, mounted it in my Bridgeport mill, and brought it into alignment. Still, the sliding portion of the fence is so far out of whack (tilted towards the back of the saw) that I am probably going to toss this junk before I waste any more time on it. Harbor Freight's "dumb tools," such as sockets and wrenches, are fine, but I will never buy anything like this from them again. It would be fine if I was just doing rough, and I mean rough, framing, but I am doing trim, and it just does not work for that.
NIce video but you speak too fast, only 3.3% of world populaton is a english native speaker and 15% is non native, so if you wanna reach more suscriptors you better slow down pal...
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I, personally, own this Hercules Miter saw, and keep it in my garage/shop. I've owned mine for about a year. I'm very happy with my purchase. I'm not sure if I'd buy it to use on a job site, but it's likely good enough. I used to check it to make sure that it was square just about every week at first. I don't do that at all anymore. It's square, and there's no sense in wasting the time to prove it to me. I've used mostly just Rigid, Makita, and Dewalt saws on various job sites. I purchased the rolling miter saw stand at Harbor Freight when I purchased this saw. It seems as sturdy as any premium saw stand that I've ever used, but I haven't used this one yet. I think that the game changer is the shadow cutting line. I have more confidence in it than I've ever had with the laser lines that are common on all the other saws. I've never trusted the Laser Lines. It has an amazing amount of power, and I'm glad that I saved the money, and bought this saw.
I bough5 this about a year ago and been using it hard, this thing is a beast and hasn’t slowed a bit yet. The shadow line is great, It was square out of the box zero adjustments and couldn’t be happier with my purchase. I was looking at the DeWalt DWS 780 but after looking at both I couldn’t see spending nearly double for the same saw. I’m a DIY’er who does a fair amount, in middle of kitchen renovation down to the studs and recently built a bathroom vanity and garage door. My only complaint is the dust collection but I look at the accuracy as more important. As for weight it’s same as most others out there so not sure why knocking it and any sliding saw will take up the same space, DWS780 isn’t lighter and need less space? This saw is absolutely worth the money!
I just bought one. Everything is solid. As for one of your bad issues is the amount of space needed, you need to take into consideration that for a more compact saw you lose cutting capacity. So for me it’s not a bad issue.
Great review. The proof is in the work. IMHO, the whole Hercules line from HF seems to show that they have done some work and research to improve quality, and offers overall some serious improvements over previous tool offerings.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
ive been using my chicago electric mitre saw for about 7 years now. still going strong.
The Hercules is a huge upgrade compared to the Chicago Electric Miter Saws LOL. I had the Chicago Electric 10" and 12" Sliding dual bevel compound miter saws, they were good, but the Hercules is a lot better, a much better built saw, the build quality of the Chicago Electric models are not nearly as good.
ive had mine for a few years now, take it out to job sites daily, think is a beast of a saw, only problem i have had with it is broken handle, when a worker dropped a wheel barrow on it in back of truck!
love this miter saw . i use it on a stand mostly outside . size is never an issue. got it on sale and a a member prid for about $329. wait for coupon and sales.
I regret selling mine lol 😆
thanks for the video, I'm buying one tomorrow. It's on sale right now for $319
That's a great price for this saw!
When moving the clamp just lift it from the back and place it where desired, also placing a 1 1/2 inch block between clamp and cut piece will allow clamp not having to be screwed all the down resulting in easy-to-use movement of the clamp. it is common for miter saws to have a poor dusting system regardless of the brand. The size of this saw is great, thanks nice video I'll be buying one tomorrow. For those who have space issues will Thank you for giving a heads up on the size of this saw, I have to tell anyone that don't know that the quality of this saw take no back seat to those $700.00 saws, it was really designed for quality save your money buy this saw.
I definitely miss mine
an added note. i bought the ridged rolling miter saw stand . perfect using outside on a job site or in the garage. if your a contractor than the bosch is the best .
i dropped mine after two years and broke that top black handle off and cracked the motor housing. i plugged it in and ran a good 200 awkward cuts through it and it still preformed fine. I'll just live without the top plastic handle for now.
I was really surprised how much cutting power (and torque) this saw had out of the box. I've used other (10" saws) previously and was pretty surprised with the speed and cutting ability of this Dewalt saw.I have bolted mine to a table to minimize movement which I highly recommend.This is a Great saw th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe with a light to see your cutting line (not a laser line).I'd recommend this saw fro anyone looking to upgrade from a 10" miter saw.
Looks like a great saw. Space is not a problem shop is 1600 Sq feet the saw would be mounted in a permanent bench witch is 8 foot by 8 foot in center of shop. I enjoyed your video on the saw. Thanks!!
I agree with you on the space issue. I'm having to change up my workshop for it as well. Good saw overall.
I see this complaint about space a lot on these sites. Bosch, Delta, & Ridged use a hinged arm rather than steel rods. If your biggest problem is the space it takes, I don't think you should've purchased a sliding miter saw at all. That said, I just got mine & I'm planning on building the needed cabinet space on either side of the planned saw location. I'm debating either making a base for my saw that rolls in & out rather than the permanent dedicated floor space you did. My other option is to simply do a cutout to fit the base & where I mount it will be a slide out shelf using 100Lbs rated drawer slides & a fixed cabinet underneath that equals the depth of the saw when the saw is in it's most compact position. This means my cabinet length will all be as deep as the saw is with blade forward & angled at 60° when not in use. My other consideration will be to just make my cabinets as deep as the most space intensive tool I keep at the wall like a drill press or bandsaw
Agreed 100%. They literally have every saw on display at HF. I've owned my share of compound miters over the years, they've all been space hogs no matter how you look at it.
Not something someone new to the craft thinks about.
@@JARMade fair enough
Im on hercules miter saw number 3 now. First one burnt up in about 6 months and the second about 8 months later. I will say i am not a hobbiest and i do use my miter saw multiple times a week. The overall build and accuracy is good its just the motors are junk. Definitely get the warranty..so glad i did.
Odd been using my hard quite a bit for over 2 years, cutting wet and PT 4x4s my motor still running strong
I use that mitter saw from Monday to Friday and I like it how it's work
Fantastic saw for the price. I just replaced a Hitachi that had multiple issues. This saw is solid, and the miter stops are no joke. $300 can't be beat, especially since the next step up would be $700 for the Bosch design without rails. I'd rather put that money into more tools or materials.
most all my work is fair weather and done outside . so saw dust isn’t an issue. i use my leaf blower while outside . i do wear a mask.
Great review video! I like the all the extra b roll you used. Definitely helped get a sense of how cool this saw is!
Thanks Jake! Appreciate the feedback!
I’ll be honest. I think this Saw is going to bea Game Changer. I ran a LargeArchitectual WoodworkingInstallation Department and we use the Dewalt Sliding Compound 12” Saws they were very Versatile To Cut most Trim and Molding s but they go out of Adjustmentvery quickly and Often Yes you can dial them in with some Time and a few Tools but this HF saw with the Lazer is going to give Dewalt a good Competition I. Do like the Dewalt Dual Bevel /NonSliding 12” Miter Saw the best for a DedicatedShop Saw and as long as that doesn’t get misused or abused it will remain one of the most Accurate Tools in your Shop my Personal Saw is over 20 years Old and all I’ve had to do is Sharpen the blade that came on the Saw I was. lucky enough to have a Company Come to my Place Of Business. Pick up the Blades and Return them Professionally Sharpened or Repaired as needed at no Cost to me Personally !
I got to this video from a post on the woodworking for yuutubers on FB group. I can say the dewalt , similar design is very similar. I had dewalt saw horse looking stand for it as well. It was great at job sites. Still heavy like yours. However in a shop. It steals a lot of shop space even with the saw horse style base. Lots of Realestate. Thanks for sharing your video. I enjoyed it and keep up the great work. You got a new sub here. PS my dewalt died on me after I got my new shop I built with it dried in. I replaced it with a saw that doesn’t have rhe bars coming out the back like rhe dewalt of yours. I am so happy with its new space saving design. Fits on a normal 24” cabinet bad now. ;)
Have a blessed week. Happy new year and may your channel keep growing.
Dale.
What saw did you end up getting Dale? I am thinking of getting the makita 12 in saw
@@JARMade I went with the Bosch. I am pleased with it so far. I will post a pic reply on rhe FB group so you can see it. Just don’t laugh at my interior wallls. That’s a work in progress. Hahaha.
So far so good and it has a lot of fine tuning options for it as well to dial it in to work right.
Best saw for the money! IF you are willing to compromise size. This is a beast at 44" front to back.
Its a very large saw, and quite heavy too, it weighs almost 60 pounds, funny is it weighs the same as the Dewalt DWS780.
Thanks for the info. With my limited knowledge of this kind of saw, I don't know why I might care about the difficulty of positioning the clamp. As for the space needed from front to back. That is a very good point to make but I can't tell from your video whether this differs between brands that have the same potential for cut sizes. Without these details, I can't see any reason to prefer a specific brand or to avoid this one. I get the impression that all included vacuum attachments are going to be underwhelming on home owner grade tools.
I bought the 12 inch Hercules sliding dual bevel compound miter saw after months of various manufacturers. Actually I made my decisions on features and less on price. After much evaluation because it seemed to have the best quality and features.
Enjoy it man! This thing is a beast ! 💪
NIce review! The ridgid R4251 would save you lots of space and is around the same price.
I’m on m 3rd one. I buy the warranty and replace it every year because I trim out a few houses a week and it sits in the bed of my truck in the elements. I love this saw.
It was a great saw
Im also on my 3rd one but its because the first 2 the motors burnt up. Its a great saw other than the motors are junk
I love the your Mom joke. I subscribed immediately. Don't lose that sense of humor.
Haha thank you!!
Great review Jesus! I can tell you were working in a lot more b-roll into this one. Also worth pointing out this saw looks incredibly similar to the Dewalt 779 which is a fantastic saw.
I have this saw in my shop. I purchased it to replace an old, worn-out Craftsman radial arm saw. I was aware of the space it would require, and it definitely takes up less space than the radial arm saw did. Overall, I have been impressed with the saw, it performs as well as the Dewalt does. The dust collection is a small disappointment, but I am sure I can modify it to connect to my dust collection system and make it work better.
A agree. If I didn't need the space as much as I do I would definitely be ok with it.
@@JARMade I have a 1200 sg ft shop. Used to run a boat repair business out of it. I have retired and now just focus on woodworking projects
You had a radial arm saw, I'm sure the miter saw isn't any different in dust management, at least the Craftsman Radial Arm Saws I had were not into managing any dust, other than throwing it in every direction imaginable LOL. Yep, miter saws came out and I got rid of the miter saws....they work great for ripping though.
@@wildbill23c I built a box around my saw to contain most of the dust. about once a week I take my shop vac and clean it out. Lets face it, dust collection on any miter saw stinks.
To be fair @ 3:43 - The steel rails are not an issue with the HF Hercules - every sub-$600 Sliding Miter saw is going to have Steel Rails that stick out the back - they are the price to pay to get a 12" depth of cut unless your will to spend a lot more
Agreed
Awesome review and spot on!! I got.this sa back in June and although I knew it wasn't going to go back against the wall say like a Delta Cruzer I also didn't realize how far off the wall it needed to be either. I made it work in my small shop as well and am still extremely happy with the purchase.
Other then the space I love this saw. But I want to upgrade to the makita one !
@@JARMade Yea sounds like space is a priority in your case, since you have a space issue, I think the perfect miter saw for you would be the Makita LS1219L it's a very nice and rugged saw, you don't have to be concerned about the back and forth movement of the motor and the blade, you push the saw against the wall and forget it because it has inside movement, not outside movement, I'm not sure if it's an upgrade but it's a big 12" saw with nice features such as, up to 60-degree cutting both right and left, the big problem for me is it's nearly twice the price as the Hercules and Quality is about the same, $760.00
Bummer that the Makita still uses laser not shadow though. A shame, I also really like the soft start feature of that one
@@JARMade The Makita is in a different class in design, price and targeted audience. You cannot use it as a comparison to the Hercules.
The Mom joke got you the "Like". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Good video I had my Hercules 2 years and I love mine!
On sale right now for $300 for Black Friday/Cyber Monday.
HAHA, that's when I bought mine. Great price, and it works so much better than the Chicago Electric that it replaced LOL.
Well maybe you could make a pocket wall for the saw? Would also be a neat video for your channel. All the best for you and your channel.
Ive had this same saw almost 2 years now woth no issues but it is getting time for a blade upgrade. That clamp isnt really as bad as what was portayed lol
I use Diablo blades in all my saws, they're great blades, and very reasonably priced...I wait until they have the 2 packs on sale and pickup a pack of 10 and 12 inch blades. With regular use they last quite a while. Although, the Hercules saw blades do seem very good as well, but about the same price as the Diablo, and they look very similar to each other as well, wouldn't be surprised if Diablo has their hands in the Hercules blade making LOL
Nice review, in a shop setting a backstop hood style dust collector is the way to go. In regards to weight size the 7 1/4" battery dewalt is the way to go I doubt this is any heavier than the 12" dewalt which is a monster beast. No 12" is really truly a cabinet shop l/ jobsite finish saw to much blade wobble due to size. That said it's. Good enough for the majority.
I had the Dewalt 7-1/4" 20V miter saw, it works great, it ended up being left at work permanently, and use it quite a bit. For most tasks I'm doing the 7-1/4" blade size is plenty, I just need to talk them into getting me a small table saw or at least a circular saw so I can rip boards down that are too wide, rather than having to pack them home and use my own table saw, power, and time.
Every video I've seen, they've all said the same thing, the only real downside is the dust collection set up. Which obviously can be fixed. So if that's the only negative, then I'm down to get one.
Do you still like?
Better than Dewalt
Agree! My professional “work”shop is littered with Dewalt. I was very skeptical at first of Hercules line…that I found out was very wrong.
My personal shop is my favorite Woodshop now.
After seeing so many different thumbnails I really didn't know what to expect but overall great review.
Haha yeah. The thumbnail game is never really over 😅
What the heck happened at the 2:52 minute mark - was it your mistake or the Saws?
Yeah probably my mistake. The wood piece moved and I got some kick back
I used this saw in my shop for 4 years. Cant beat it for the money. Its big and takes up a lot of space and the dust collection is terrible but other than that its a great value. I recently upgraded to a makita.
Other than the ridiculously over priced Festool Miter Saw there really isn't any miter saw that has good dust collection LOL. I think the designers of Miter Saws in general vision them only being used on jobsites mostly sitting outside so they never concentrate on dust collection it seems....sadly its just the opposite, or maybe closer to 50/50 a lot of people own these types of saws and they are in their workshop, garage, basement, etc. So they really need to start concentrating more on how to collect all the dang dust these saws throw everywhere...its like a sawdust confetti thrower every time you cut something with one LOL....and Radial Arm Saws are terrible for dust collection too, but I don't think any company makes a Radial Arm Saw anymore, at least I haven't seen any around stores for a long time.
Excellent review. Looks like a great tool. (Like your mom) haha. By far my favorite part. As far a the saw itself. I am surprised at the overall length. Nice work.
Haha glad you liked that joke 🤣
Lol 😆
Use johson floor paste wax to clean and lube the slides. Use on the top of a tablesaw also.
299$ harbor freight yesterday
I doubt that's the same saw you seen... they're $399 everywhere .$299 for the non sliding saw
Wait for Black Friday, it will drop to $300
Sliding saw will be om sale for $299 in 10 days!
I have one of these saws, purchased this past March. Tonight it exploded while cutting a 2x4. Didn't lose any body parts but it was very dismaying.
What exactly exploded ? Was it the electric motor or the blade ? I saw another video where the blade was defective If I was to get one i would definitely buy a quality blade instead of risking it
The wood lol. The wood moved a little bit and that was kickback lol
@@JARMade yeah that can be scary
Hercules blades are great. They are on sale right now too! Best cheap blades ever
ARe there two versions of the Hercules miter saws?
Yes, one is a Sliding Compound Miter Saw, and the other is Non Sliding
@@JARMade I just picked up the non slide version brand new on clearance for $123. No joke. Did I do okay? It’s my first mitre
Sounds like a good deal for a new miter saw
Yes, one is sliding the other is not.
You are right, 44in is a loooot of space!
Not really. If you are worried about it taking up space you shouldn't be looking at sliding miter saws, rather be looking at the fixed head non-sliding types....or one of the newer styles with the hinged type sliding system, which from what I've seen is great if the shop you have is really tiny. I just roll my miter saw out away from the wall on its stand when I need to use it and roll it back when I'm done. But I've been using sliding miter saws for years....and before that Radial Arm Saws...if you want a space waster buy a radial arm saw, then complain about the space it takes up, and the amount of dust you find in places you didn't think you'd ever get dust in.
Thanks for this, size is an issue
I appreciate a good mom joke
I wouldn't really say that the size of the saw is a downside. That really your fault or personal needs. It's not the companies fault that you have a small shop.
Agreed, that's what I say on the video
Or that he doesn't own a tape measure to measure the space where the saw is going to be put, or not build something that only fits 1 size of a tool, knowing full well you'll end up replacing it in a few months, or years when you decide you wanna different color.
If you would not buy the Hercules saw again, what would you have bought knowing what you know now?
Well I actually sold my Hercules saw And bought a makita saw. But i with the shadow line on the Hercules was in the makita.
If I bought another Miter Saw at some point I might look closer at the Ridgid that doesn't have the rails, but I don't really have an issue with space so its not a problem.....people who whine about how much space a sliding compound miter saw takes, has obviously never owned a radial arm saw, or a table saw bigger than a portable one you can throw in your car.
This mite be my next tool purchase... HF $399...price has gone up since the $346 tag I last priced it....stupid inflation government we have
RIP!
Will be $350 this black Friday. Just saw the flyer 😜The stand is $179 which is outrageous :/
Goin on sale in 10 days for $299!!
No miter saw has good dust collection. It all sucks. You have to augment it to get it to your liking.
I have the $8 million dollar Bosch sliding compound miter with the glide system and it's a pile of shit for accuracy. Run with the dual rails. Yeah they take up more bench space, but at least they're accurate. My Bosch is total garbage; tech support said it's messed up but they won't warrant it.
The alternative to saving space is 3X more $$$. This saw is probably the best of the design. DeWalt is a joke now.
Sup what u gana show use next!!
I think the clamp in the end of the video is way easier to change than you made it
It's really not tho lol
Yep, throw them in the trash.
Talks about cost and value.....then brings out a woodpecker's square.....
Makita makes the only great space saving miter ....the Bosch rigid and delta have way more deflection b/c of their rail systems
Ridgid has a miter saw that doesn't have rails. Its the R4241 model for 10 inch, and the R4251 for the 12 inch.
I bet you’d take 9 or 12” no problem.
I bet you are right
I bought this a couple of years ago. It is pretty much pure junk. I discovered (too late for return) that the fence is not even close to being within plane of either side. If you are looking at it, the left side of the fence that is bolted to the saw is not coplanar with the right side. If you place a straightedge on the left side and slide it towards the right side, it will hit the leading edge of the fence. Basically, the fences are tilted towards each other. I removed the entire fence system from the saw, mounted it in my Bridgeport mill, and brought it into alignment. Still, the sliding portion of the fence is so far out of whack (tilted towards the back of the saw) that I am probably going to toss this junk before I waste any more time on it. Harbor Freight's "dumb tools," such as sockets and wrenches, are fine, but I will never buy anything like this from them again. It would be fine if I was just doing rough, and I mean rough, framing, but I am doing trim, and it just does not work for that.
You bought a SLIDING Miter Saw. It’s going to be bigger.
Bingo. Obviously people who whine about the space a sliding miter saw takes up has never owned or used a radial arm saw.
Gave you a thumb up because you made fun of my mom loved it
I had a HF mitre saw and it self destructed in 3 years. Buy a decent one
NIce video but you speak too fast, only 3.3% of world populaton is a english native speaker and 15% is non native, so if you wanna reach more suscriptors you better slow down pal...
I know 😭 I try to slow down but it just happens.
lmao the "your mom" joke
"Almost as heavy as your mom" -- LIKED!
$399 in 2023 is not that cheap.
$299 right now
Got mine for $299
$299 RIGHT NOW until 4/15/2024
Is cheaper than any other miter saw on the market all the other ones are around 500
Subbed for the “your mom”