Are Half Squats WRONG For Rugby
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00:00 - Bundee Aki's Box Squat
02:32 - The Comments
05:55 - Power Development
07:29 - Full Depth Vs Half Squats
11:42 - The Benefits of Half Squats
15:29 - Should You Even Use Box Squats? - บันเทิง
Sika boys talking squats…. Click!
Woah?! They're not 'boys' Ivan, they're lads!
My 100kg squat is clearly superior because I go below parallel. Reckon I'd dominate in rugby
Right on Lol
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Nice logic. You have better squat, the rugby boys can fack ya up with just one tackle and your squat means nothing 😂
@@PhiyackYuhIt's the most obvious sarcastic comment, you clueless smoothbrain.
Personally I think box squats can actually be better than half squats for power development with the caveat that you properly sit on the box rather than just bouncing off. The transition from somewhat relaxed (still braced) to exploding has made a big difference to my power
Speaking of partial reps, might be time to look at Ryan Crouser's training.
Before putting 23.51m (2 inches/5cm off his WR) at last week's World Championships, in response to a question how Ryan was feeling despite the blood clots in his leg, Ryan's agent just sent a video of Ryan pin-squatting 325kg for an easy double.
He was, in fact, ready.
Edit: oh, just had to keep watching!
It’s like when I tricep bench for American football and the one bodybuilder in the room tells me I should bench with a wider grip for more chest development 😂
Tricep bench 🤔
@@Lee-ic2yn same thing dude
@@Lee-ic2ynI call it tricep bench too, I consider close grip a different variation that involves more chest.
It’s funny how rugby players who are pretty big in real life look normal sized on camera, but actors who are pretty small in real life look huge on camera.
the rugger is farther from the lens, the actor is closer to the lens
It's the marketplace of ideas y'know. Whoever gets the most upvotes is the most correct.
Gentlemen, another very interesting video. I have a question. You focused on how half squats are beneficial due to ability to lift more weight and do it faster than with a full depth squat. However, isn't a benefit also in specificity of the movement? I.e. the fact that a half squat produces force in a movement pattern more similar to sprinting (joint angle)? And that it might be beneficial to be your strongest in more than one (full) range of motion?
Re: the raw power point at the 6:40 ish mark
Is hypertrophy not also really important for contact sports?
"Quality" weight is a big requirement for American Football and rugby
Really good well-explained video. Nothing else to add or ask, so, algorithm.
Another great video lads. What I love about when yous do full "reaction" type videos is it's only really a starting point to talk in depth about the subject itself.
The commentary at the 8:45 mark really nails it. This is an advanced movement for a field sport athlete who is already very strong. The idea that’s it’s more plyometric in nature.
The part at at 11:15 about long term development is excellent as well. This guy is already strong enough for a non ss athlete.
Great stuff
What's your opinion on partial rep pin squats instead of box squats?
Seems like it'd be safer and it'd be easier to get the athlete to use decent technique
I think pin squats are way more likely to get misgrooved than box squats if you hold the vertical displacement constant
@@ianpier16 I don't quite understand what you mean by that.
I just see a ton of people kind of rocking back and forth to gain momentum in their box squats, often losing tightness in the process . That is obviously suboptimal.
Also failing a rep can be tricky with box squats. You can't bail like you could with normal squats without destroying the bar.
@Eipotttatsch I just meant that with the pin contact the bar is likely to drift forward or back but with the butt to box contact the bar is less likely to move forwards or back
@@Eipotttatschlike having a few degree change in hip angle at box contact isn't likely to result Ina missed lift but the bar can deflect off the safety pins quite easily and the bar moving along the rails can change things a lot
Powerlifter here, but I have a bad knee, so I use Seedman's 90° paused squats and still hit my pr numbers on meet day.
Well according to the science quarter squats offer zero benefit to any sport, yet they still can teach you trunk control if you have issues folding at the bottom of a squat
Box squats are completely different, especially when it comes to a long pause as well as Touch and Go. That's called Power training and it's a really good supplement to strength training
@@drip3691/4 squats have been shown to increase vertical leap height and sprint speed better than full depth when controlling for RPE
Totally agree Bundy is prepping for a game so its all about max power (speed) hes not gonna be training absolute strength in this phase. Speed is important
Stop banging the laptop against the mic stand! Listening to this wearing headphones, it sounds like someone is wacking me over the head with a steel pipe!
Aki is super strong as us usos so naturally are #samoans
The kruger effect seems to be very potent in that comment section.
Pól here. Not belligerent but appreciate you not being as arsey as I was in my comment. I'll just say, there's a strong reason the IRFU are doing a massive strong push for physios the past few months for the Irish squads. No jealousy towards Aki, he's a beast. In my responses I did also explain why power is vital and applicable in rugby. All depends on the purpose and component of fitness being trained. Granted injury plays a factor also. You also mentioned full range squats is beneficial in rugby, which is the point I was making.
Seems like for less freakish athletes, some type of jerk or push press variation would give a similar/more benefits than half squats.
It's easier to progress a box squat than jerk or even push press
Heavy overhead is not a good idea for a pro rugby players shoulders especially at the weight tupou would be doing
The dip of the jerk only flex the knee but not the hip. That's why it's not so useful.
well akshually PROFESSOR Michael Isratel has explained that "partial reps don't count"... You DO follow the science dont you??? Deload back to the empty bar and have a long hard think about what you've done.
The bar??? You mean the pvc pipe. Actually, scratch that, helium balloons. Start with -40 pounds for one million reps at perfect form, then start working up to bodyweight squats after a few years.
It's ARSE, we are not Americans!!!
NO NON NATIVE PLAYERS . !!!! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT . COUNT THE NON NATIVE PLAYERS 5/6 START EVERY GAME
Its also common for top tier nations to only pick players playing in the nations club teams not just ireland.
it is funny, the "experts" that say "bro, no reps. no this-or-that." hes in the fucking world cuppppppppp bro, not a power meet. 🐸🐸🐸