Just a heads-up, that extension cord doesn't look like it's 20amp rated so you may need a different solution. The breaker won't protect it if you're drawing too much for it to handle.
Divide the plywood based on the number of printers you will place, and leave about half an inch of space between each one to help reduce vibration between printers. You could test it with one row of printers spaced out and compare it to another row where all the printers are placed close together.
Shopnation (Woodwork/print farm youtube channel) did that on his first farm build-out but not future expansions. I'm guessing it didn't have the impact he was hoping for.
Damn this man loves his Prusa.. Drops $40k for 36 printers... Thats dedication ... Love you Joel Keep up the great work.. Ill gladly take an old one....
But what are the alternatives for the farm? Bambu that will lock you up into their ecosystem, with potentially subscription to use multiple printers? Or maybe Creality, which kind-of works, but still needs to be tinkered with on a constant basis?
Hi Five Joel, Im Luciano from Argentina you inspired me to quit my job and follow my dream of being a full time 3d printer. I have only a few machines now but Im growing, so more machines coming soon. All the best!!!
Nice! I'm a bit jealous right now 🙂 As you've asked for our print farm experiences (I gave you one of our dartcase products at formnext 2023): We are currently running 14 Printers in a mix of Prusa and Bambu (which isnt perfect), but it is always a lot of fun just to stand in front of the shelfs when everything is running! ANd I love the prusa connect, it is so much easier to run multiple printers from this than any other solution we tried, yet.
I see a massive UPS order in your future if not already. As in Uninterrupted Power Supply. We got lots of blips in power at my house and that can derail your printers if you’re not there.
You took into account the 80% rule on a 20 amps, but what about the power strip ? Pretty sure the power strip is a 15 Amp powered rated so the 80 % should be around 1440 watts, so very close to your limit
i currently have a tiny farm of 8 printers and hoping one day i can quit my job and go to this scale. Its always been a dream of mine and hopefully one day when i do ill make a youtube channel and share my experiences.
you really need to make a video where you show us how you manage such a large farm in Prusa Connect. does it still work well with so many printer? i cant even imagine having so many printers to assign printjobs to.
"Many months later" means he got them quite a while ago. With the Core One release being in November, he might not even have known about the Core One. Plus: parts needed to be printed. :)
Have you ever shared anything about the economics of running your print farm? I'm asking because I *friggin* love everything about 3d printing/modeling, manufacturing and automation in general, I’ve been following you and others for years, and I'm in the process of starting my own 3dp business. Right now it seems smartest to start the business publicly and scale the farm to ~20 printers.
I wouldn't trust that random Chinesium power strip not to burst into flames with that kind of load on it. I'd look at buying something like a Tripp-Lite ISOBAR instead.
I've been considering what platform I'd use for a print-farm. I think I'd probably go with Sovol SV06's or SV07's; they certainly aren't the best quality, but the ease of swapping the entire hotend assembly with 3 screws and a ribbon cable would result in very little machine downtime should anything break.
A video deep dive into how to start and profit with a print farm would be soooooo cool. I’ve loved the idea for some time now, but what resources are out there for someone who doesn’t want to run an Etsy store (or the like)? Great work to the 3DPN family! Thanks
I know time is money, but was the additional cost of prebuilt machines worth the assembly time? I know it took me about 8 hours to put my 3s together, but it was my first and only time assembling. I would assume that I could assemble 3 in the same 5-8 hours if I did each step on a, b and c printers before moving the the next step. OR, in buying bulk machines, is the kit price no longer that much lower?
The print area, the post processing area, the pre packaging area, the pre postal package pickup area, and the print farm finished fulfilment high five area
So...dumb question...what do you sell? I see on your website you have a wine holder thing and shelf bracket. But do you sell enough of those to need 36 machines? (Honest question...in case that reads condescendingly....not meant that way)
hey Joel, i watched your print farm video. Very informable. could you tell me how do you start to market your stuff. i been selling resin statues but am finding it hard to get the word out there. any advice i would be grateful
I know this might be a too "inside question" but any advice on how to price "print on demand" 3D prints? I´ve a really small business and I simply put a 100% mark-up on material used, a default 30 cents/hour print time and pay myself a normal hourly rate for all the work I actually need to do myself (3D modeling, slicing, starting prints, and post-processing). I´m not sure if that´s the right way to do it so I would appreciate any insight :)
Since you bought so many, would Prusa take all that foam back for recycling? I know the cost to ship might be silly compared to throwing it away but it would be a nice gesture in recycling!
i'm on a budget and being inexperienced at 3D printing, I was thinking about getting Bambulabs. then I saw so many videos and comments about staying away from Bambulabs so idk what to do now. but it's cool to see print farm being built.
As someone who owns an X1C, I can tell you that the price to performance is there and the machine is genuinely incredible. You really cannot beat it, or any Bambu printer, for the price. As for the videos, its easy to get hyperbolic and react/overreact to things that people don't want to hear (read), but if you are using the printer and the BambuStudio application, nothing will really change as an end-user. If you are immediately making the purchase, go for it, the machines work great and really are plug and play. If you have a month to wait, let everything sit and see where everything stands when the dust settles.
@@robh.8214 he wouldn't do that to begin with. I have followed him for 6+ years and he's always leaned towards prusa. This was started well before everyone started crying about bambu
Is there a bulk discount from Prusa Research for purchasing that many printers? It is hard to not choose the $14k discount (shipping + assembly cost) for a Kit vs a Assembled unit, but I can also see where there could be significant opportunity costs. Maybe it would be worth it to pay locals a per machine assembly fee if you can get them all setup without significant time loss. It has hard to argue against Prusa since it is known for it's quality, but getting 2x as many printers for the same cost with other brands that have been show to have similar print quality is hard to pass up. Not certain I would choose Bambu with their recent closed platform nature, however several other brands are definitely competing very well in the same space as Prusa.
Looks cool and it is realy impressive and i get it you partnered with prusa and it would be wrierd if you buy bambulab printers, but there are so many more machines that are capible to do more and better than those prusas. Any how i hope you get planty of hours out of this investment and more customers. ;)
It says not sponsored. So he paid for them. That being said if you call up any company that you have a relationship with and say give me 40 of the flagship product there is likely going to be a price break or priority to your order or something.
Wow that is a lot of printers. I am so glad I did not see a stack of bamboo labs printers. It sends a strong message, intended or not about having a quality product, but also not locking it down.
I love this channel but man I've gotta say I'm a little disappointed that you haven't weighed in on the Bambu issue. That said, I still 100% support you guys, you're great, just a bit disappointed.
Good video and good luck with your new print farm. However, I wouldn't have chosen Prusa. Prusa is overrated and very expensive for the technology it offers. You could have gotten much better value for money, but anyway, it's your choice :P
@@scarfa21 With the current controversy surrounding Bambu and their firmware, especially not really suitable for print farms. There are much better alternatives than Prusa at that price, offering more options and an open-source ecosystem. Sovol SV08, Anycubic Kobra S1, Creality K1/K2. What we want is the speed of a CoreXY, an enclosure, and an MMU. If they had chosen Prusa's CoreOne, I wouldn't have said anything...
I think it is the best choise. Easy to maintain and to fix. Very reliable und you get upgrades for decades. Even i sold my Bambus and switched to Prusa.
@@SB-100 I wouldn't trade my P1S for an MK series-maybe the CoreOne-but the MK4 is very ordinary. When I look at it, I see my old AnetA8, lol. I have one P1S and several other printers like the Voron 2.4 and ZeroG, but I will never buy the Prusa MK series.
@@Nicecube3D Everything you said is valid _to you_. You are not understanding that for this use case, the Mk4S makes more sense: Prusa builds them to be *reliable*. This is a commercial print farm, where downtime means loss of money. As much as I love VORON and ZeroG's Mercury One (I have both), they still are DIY printers, which means you are on your own to maintain them, and that's a big no-no on commercial environments. Also, the faster printer is to have more printers: why wait for one printer to finish when you can make multiple printers divide the workload?
I'm looking forward to seeing the 1000 hour live stream where you upgrade all of them to Core Ones!
Hahahahah
@@3DPrintingNerd and the MMUs with complete shelf redesign, so to fit the 5 rolls of filament for color change prints and the trash for any poo.
@@mobilechaosyt The MMU doesn't poo, but it does take up a ton of space
That is a huge number of printers!!
Awesome, glad you went with prusa and not bambu.
dodged a bullet
Imagine if he'd gone with bambu (with the intention of running and automating everything with orca) :3
Professional Pattern Placements of Prusa's Productive, Proficient, Plentiful Printers Parading, Prints of Passion. Phew.
Good lord that massive wall of MK4s printers!
Just a heads-up, that extension cord doesn't look like it's 20amp rated so you may need a different solution. The breaker won't protect it if you're drawing too much for it to handle.
If the wires start changing color something should definitely be done. :)
I run a little farm and Prusa Connect is a big time saver, you’ll love it.
Divide the plywood based on the number of printers you will place, and leave about half an inch of space between each one to help reduce vibration between printers. You could test it with one row of printers spaced out and compare it to another row where all the printers are placed close together.
Shopnation (Woodwork/print farm youtube channel) did that on his first farm build-out but not future expansions. I'm guessing it didn't have the impact he was hoping for.
Congrats man! 🎉
Something about a wall of printers that just makes you feel good 👍
Damn this man loves his Prusa.. Drops $40k for 36 printers... Thats dedication ... Love you Joel Keep up the great work.. Ill gladly take an old one....
But what are the alternatives for the farm? Bambu that will lock you up into their ecosystem, with potentially subscription to use multiple printers? Or maybe Creality, which kind-of works, but still needs to be tinkered with on a constant basis?
Wow that was impressive to see! Thank you for showing us that!
Thanks as always for such great comments always!
I wonder why you don't have chosen the BAMBUS , lol just kidding right choice
Well it seems he's had them set up for months so he really dodged a bullet with that decision.
3d Printing Nerd, you are the reason why prusa will be around longer (evn if it didnt inovate, which it does). You are a big customer for them.
Hi Five Joel, Im Luciano from Argentina you inspired me to quit my job and follow my dream of being a full time 3d printer. I have only a few machines now but Im growing, so more machines coming soon. All the best!!!
I'd love to see the farm get a network upgrade, maybe add some timelaspe cameras or even nozzle cams
Nice! I'm a bit jealous right now 🙂 As you've asked for our print farm experiences (I gave you one of our dartcase products at formnext 2023): We are currently running 14 Printers in a mix of Prusa and Bambu (which isnt perfect), but it is always a lot of fun just to stand in front of the shelfs when everything is running! ANd I love the prusa connect, it is so much easier to run multiple printers from this than any other solution we tried, yet.
decouple them. cut individual boards for each printer. Small gap between each board. Then your foam idea will work.
Always love seeing videos on your print farm! Thanks for taking us along. One day I can dream of having an awesome wall of printers like this!
I see a massive UPS order in your future if not already. As in Uninterrupted Power Supply. We got lots of blips in power at my house and that can derail your printers if you’re not there.
Hi Joel, great video. What's the plan for your older printers?
I sold them all on Twitter a while back!
HOLY CRAP that's a lot of MK4Seseses. Surprised you didn't go with CORE ONE... But Nice!
Congrats Joel 🎉🎉
Been watching your vids shortly b4 covid hit, awesome to see all the great things that have happen, keep up the great work. 👌🏻👍🏻
You took into account the 80% rule on a 20 amps, but what about the power strip ? Pretty sure the power strip is a 15 Amp powered rated so the 80 % should be around 1440 watts, so very close to your limit
i currently have a tiny farm of 8 printers and hoping one day i can quit my job and go to this scale.
Its always been a dream of mine and hopefully one day when i do ill make a youtube channel and share my experiences.
you really need to make a video where you show us how you manage such a large farm in Prusa Connect.
does it still work well with so many printer? i cant even imagine having so many printers to assign printjobs to.
Why not Prusa core one ??
This project started months before they came out
Not out yet
Prusa core one will relased in March 2025 in EU
If you print only PLA, non sense buy box 3D printer
"Many months later" means he got them quite a while ago. With the Core One release being in November, he might not even have known about the Core One. Plus: parts needed to be printed. :)
What did you do with all the old printers?
Was thinking i hadn't been 'nerded out' for a while. Been a subscrider and Puget Sound (West Seattle) descendant for years....
Have you ever shared anything about the economics of running your print farm? I'm asking because I *friggin* love everything about 3d printing/modeling, manufacturing and automation in general, I’ve been following you and others for years, and I'm in the process of starting my own 3dp business. Right now it seems smartest to start the business publicly and scale the farm to ~20 printers.
Any benefit from using a wired network?
Speaking of MythBusters, has there been a 3D printing nerd/Adam Savage crossover?
Yes. Joel was on an episode of Tested
Man I’ve still just got my mk2.5s’s…I should prob snag a core one when the kits are available lol.
I wouldn't trust that random Chinesium power strip not to burst into flames with that kind of load on it. I'd look at buying something like a Tripp-Lite ISOBAR instead.
I've been considering what platform I'd use for a print-farm. I think I'd probably go with Sovol SV06's or SV07's; they certainly aren't the best quality, but the ease of swapping the entire hotend assembly with 3 screws and a ribbon cable would result in very little machine downtime should anything break.
A video deep dive into how to start and profit with a print farm would be soooooo cool. I’ve loved the idea for some time now, but what resources are out there for someone who doesn’t want to run an Etsy store (or the like)? Great work to the 3DPN family! Thanks
Rescue the Gummi Bears? Did Duke Igthorn capture them?
1 million years later archaeologists will wonder why the small plastic boat was so popular around the world
I know time is money, but was the additional cost of prebuilt machines worth the assembly time? I know it took me about 8 hours to put my 3s together, but it was my first and only time assembling. I would assume that I could assemble 3 in the same 5-8 hours if I did each step on a, b and c printers before moving the the next step. OR, in buying bulk machines, is the kit price no longer that much lower?
What do you sell?
Ouch, the timing on that. I really have to question getting that many MK4S machines when the CORE One is available.
Are the shelves Kobalt Bolted Steel Heavy Duty 4-Tier Utility Shelves??
Did Prusa give you any of the printers or did you buy them all. I know the video said not sponsored but wanted to be clear. Thank you.
I purchased all of these printers :)
Now we know why lead times at Prusa are so long. Joel bought everything! Thanks Joel! (Obviously joking 😀).
Is there a link to the print farm for getting a parts quote?
You can email us from the website and send in a request there. No online forms available.
The print area, the post processing area, the pre packaging area, the pre postal package pickup area, and the print farm finished fulfilment high five area
I wish I could replace all my Bambu's with Prusa. I just can't afford it
40 x MK4s? Did you get a bulk discount?
In other words, not bambu labs… 0:55
No UPS?
You better have a good Wireless access point with a separate SSID so your not just nuking your network
I’m super jelly. The only thing better than this is a print farm with 40 XLs. 😂
Does anyone know what his print farm is for? I never see. Retail shop or service for the print farm. I’m curious when he does with all those printers.
So...dumb question...what do you sell? I see on your website you have a wine holder thing and shelf bracket. But do you sell enough of those to need 36 machines? (Honest question...in case that reads condescendingly....not meant that way)
it was mentioned at the end of the episode. He linked the episode going over the current products.
hey Joel, i watched your print farm video. Very informable. could you tell me how do you start to market your stuff. i been selling resin statues but am finding it hard to get the word out there. any advice i would be grateful
I know this might be a too "inside question" but any advice on how to price "print on demand" 3D prints? I´ve a really small business and I simply put a 100% mark-up on material used, a default 30 cents/hour print time and pay myself a normal hourly rate for all the work I actually need to do myself (3D modeling, slicing, starting prints, and post-processing). I´m not sure if that´s the right way to do it so I would appreciate any insight :)
Can someone link me to that shelving unit pls?
The ecosystem is worth every penny 😂
Since you bought so many, would Prusa take all that foam back for recycling? I know the cost to ship might be silly compared to throwing it away but it would be a nice gesture in recycling!
the carbon released by shipping it back to prusa wouldn't' be worth it probably.
What are you printing?
He shows at the end of the episode
Prusa vs rest of the manufacturers: 1:0
Thousands of bucks!
Not Bambus I see! Hahahahahahahaha!!
The Prusa ecosystem made sense for me!
That’s honestly the most civil response you can say Joel without saying to much. Speaks volumes.
Your eyes seemed very red, are you OK? Sleeping enough? Allergies?
i'm on a budget and being inexperienced at 3D printing, I was thinking about getting Bambulabs. then I saw so many videos and comments about staying away from Bambulabs so idk what to do now. but it's cool to see print farm being built.
As someone who owns an X1C, I can tell you that the price to performance is there and the machine is genuinely incredible. You really cannot beat it, or any Bambu printer, for the price. As for the videos, its easy to get hyperbolic and react/overreact to things that people don't want to hear (read), but if you are using the printer and the BambuStudio application, nothing will really change as an end-user. If you are immediately making the purchase, go for it, the machines work great and really are plug and play. If you have a month to wait, let everything sit and see where everything stands when the dust settles.
If I send you 5$ for shipping could you pop a couple of those needle nose pliers in a box and send them to me? lol 😂
Wow, did you get a bulk discount, lol.
Thank goodness that was not a wall of Bambu printers.....
Impressive setup!!!!
@@robh.8214 he wouldn't do that to begin with. I have followed him for 6+ years and he's always leaned towards prusa. This was started well before everyone started crying about bambu
So pleased you didn't go with bambu given recent events
Next video: How I got diabetes from eating 20 pounds of gummies :)
Is there a bulk discount from Prusa Research for purchasing that many printers? It is hard to not choose the $14k discount (shipping + assembly cost) for a Kit vs a Assembled unit, but I can also see where there could be significant opportunity costs. Maybe it would be worth it to pay locals a per machine assembly fee if you can get them all setup without significant time loss.
It has hard to argue against Prusa since it is known for it's quality, but getting 2x as many printers for the same cost with other brands that have been show to have similar print quality is hard to pass up. Not certain I would choose Bambu with their recent closed platform nature, however several other brands are definitely competing very well in the same space as Prusa.
Watched the video from start to finish and I could see that you got tired after all that work....
Looks cool and it is realy impressive and i get it you partnered with prusa and it would be wrierd if you buy bambulab printers, but there are so many more machines that are capible to do more and better than those prusas.
Any how i hope you get planty of hours out of this investment and more customers. ;)
He has bought many Bambu machines as you can see in past episodes
Can I have one I’m sure you got one to spare 😉😉😉😉😉😉😎😎😎😎😎
8:59 Missed opportunity to say dozenzies
I feel P1S prob a better choice due to enclosure. and AMS Option. but Prusa is good too
Did you buy it or did you get it.
This was purchased. He mentions he invested in these machines to grow his business
It says not sponsored. So he paid for them. That being said if you call up any company that you have a relationship with and say give me 40 of the flagship product there is likely going to be a price break or priority to your order or something.
I REALLY doubt they would simply give him 40k dollars in printers :D
Wow that is a lot of printers. I am so glad I did not see a stack of bamboo labs printers. It sends a strong message, intended or not about having a quality product, but also not locking it down.
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I much prefer Qidi for my farm.
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I love this channel but man I've gotta say I'm a little disappointed that you haven't weighed in on the Bambu issue. That said, I still 100% support you guys, you're great, just a bit disappointed.
Prusa - slow and expensive. Easy to repair but in constant need of repair. Not really what I'm looking for in a print farm machine.
Just joking but is there a relation between you having 50k worth of new printers and you're pink eye?😅😂
I rather get bambu p1s
Good video and good luck with your new print farm. However, I wouldn't have chosen Prusa. Prusa is overrated and very expensive for the technology it offers. You could have gotten much better value for money, but anyway, it's your choice :P
let me guess you would recommend bambu lol, sorry not even close....
@@scarfa21 With the current controversy surrounding Bambu and their firmware, especially not really suitable for print farms. There are much better alternatives than Prusa at that price, offering more options and an open-source ecosystem. Sovol SV08, Anycubic Kobra S1, Creality K1/K2. What we want is the speed of a CoreXY, an enclosure, and an MMU. If they had chosen Prusa's CoreOne, I wouldn't have said anything...
I think it is the best choise. Easy to maintain and to fix. Very reliable und you get upgrades for decades. Even i sold my Bambus and switched to Prusa.
@@SB-100 I wouldn't trade my P1S for an MK series-maybe the CoreOne-but the MK4 is very ordinary. When I look at it, I see my old AnetA8, lol. I have one P1S and several other printers like the Voron 2.4 and ZeroG, but I will never buy the Prusa MK series.
@@Nicecube3D Everything you said is valid _to you_. You are not understanding that for this use case, the Mk4S makes more sense: Prusa builds them to be *reliable*. This is a commercial print farm, where downtime means loss of money.
As much as I love VORON and ZeroG's Mercury One (I have both), they still are DIY printers, which means you are on your own to maintain them, and that's a big no-no on commercial environments. Also, the faster printer is to have more printers: why wait for one printer to finish when you can make multiple printers divide the workload?