As a fan, I want Thor there. As a human, I totally get it. They did him real dirty and he doesn’t need WSM, whereas they do stand to gain by having him
@OldManStrength2112 The trouble is Arnold's and Shaw won't do max deadlift with figure of 8 straps and DL suits so that only leaves Rogue for Thor to set DL record
I actually hope Thor sticks to his resolution not to support the organization that unfairly smeared his image. Even more impressive than super strength is the guts to stick up for yourself, even when you're offered fame and money to bend over and take it.
The sad thing about WSM is it’s still a TV show made for average viewers that see strongman as a freak show, SMOE & Arnold’s + rogue are doing it 10x better than WSM, even look at the cheap athlete announcement posters, they are a joke - as a designer they look so amateur compared to All the top comps, there’s 0 investment to improve the WSM comp for the strongman FAN. I no longer look forward to this comp, always watching it off someone’s IG story to find out what’s happening, all the real strongman fans see the whole comp anyways through online leaked videos so why not just livestream it on YT or a pay wall ( I understand the complications of WSM, but as a fan I’m sick of it tbh). I’m really glad we have the other big comps to look forward to which care about the sport and everyone who enjoys it.
honeslty i hope thor sticks to his guns and refuses the invitation, WSm and eddie dragged his name through the dirt during the build up to the boxing match, regardless of whether it was deserved or not, he has no reason to go back, he has nothing to prove at WSM
@@carlh296Thor was not innocent and he displayed poor sportsmanship but he deleted his post about being cheated out of WSM 2017 shortly after posting and has clearly grown since then. That being said, Colin Bryce is an event organizer (and was head ref in 2017) and should be held to a much higher standard than athletes. Him giving Eddie the bts footage from WSM was unprofessional and shattered the little bit of trust people had in him. If anything it gave weight to Thors claims that Eddie and Colin are friends who colluded to “fix” WSM 2017
I find it ridiculous Thor fans think he was hard done by, he won 1 event out of 6 the same as mateusz and brian they weren't complaining about being robbed Eddie won 3 events and easily won those and stopped trying by the final event.
Despite being a huge strongman fan, I'd respect Thor if he doesn't go. He has his morals and deserves respect for that. In any case, I find the other big 3 competitions more exciting and with better event selection.
I pretty sure if it wasn't for those nasty videos Eddie (and Colin) put out before the boxing-fight and them continuing to disrespect his deadlift Thor would be on board. Don't see it happening like this.
Wsm and giants live are pretty much begging Thor to come back at this point.😂 I hope he sticks to his word and never competes for them again. Why would he risk being screwed over again and have his name even further tarnished??🤔
@@Klepzeiker1984 yup screwed. In 2017 there was a drag event In the heats and was supposed to be in the finals, but after Colin saw how bad Eddie did in the heats, he removed that event from the final, because if Eddie did bad again he obviously wouldn't win. Then ya got the whole Viking press rep deduction BS once they realized removing that event still wasn't enough to guarantee Eddie victory.😂 That's a screw job if I've ever seen one. 🤔
@@benji3008Yup that was the Tire flip into chain drag, and Eddie sucked at the chain. He got 4th with the tire but would end way back if the chain was there.
It kind of looks like they're saying, "We've invited all the former winners who are still competing, and these next five guys who've been a part of it before." No confirmation from any of them, as far as I know, but obviously you can pencil in Mitch and Tom.
Hope he doesnt. Wsm is so behind in streaming, events, and location. Fans would be better without it lol smoe, asc, and rogue are mucu better. Magnusson invitational was also awesome to watch with the natural elements
Couldn’t agree more. And yes, I truly love the MVM with not only its nature close events (when in real life do you find perfectly round atlas stones) and being actually outside. Full credit to Magnus for organising it as these elements must make it really difficult to plan.
100% support Thor not going back to worlds after the 2017 footage was used to tarnish his rep. Would be great for the sport but organizers also need to know that kind of stuff is unacceptable Edit: I agree that Thor was a sore looser in 2017 but that does not excuse the organizers in allowing footage to be used to paint him in a dishonest way (especially not shaking Eddie’s hand on the podium). Organizers should be held to a higher standard than athletes
Disagree there. WSM will still continue forward being the biggest comp for the foreseeable future. So the only ones missing out is Thor and the rest of us who want to see him there
You must be having a laugh, WSM should of sued that big baby for tarnishing it's name by saying it was fixed and they were cheating and can't be trusted, I've never seen a bigger baby just because he didn't win. Thor is an amazing athlete, but the way he acted always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there's a clip of him intimidating Colin to try and change the result from when he double dipped about 100 times, absolute juiced head bully!
Even with the beef aside it doesnt really make sense for Hafthor to go. Its a TV show with an archaic format that cant be changed because its tied up in a TV deal. SMOE and Rogue are both higher paying and more accessible, ASC pays a bit less but is more accessible and has the legacy of being the "true world title" when WSM and IFSA split the sport. The only appeal of WSM is that its a trademark that already existed when the sport was in its infancy and dominated by powerlifters and weightlifters.
If we don’t get Lucas Hatton invited this year due to “too many Americans” WSM loses all credibility, and confirms it’s ALL about TV/politics and not truly finding the strongest man.
WSM and Giants Live need Thor more than he needs them. Back in the 10's was the other way around given there was only WSM and the Arnold's and giants live promoted more big events. But ever since Thor gave them the finger in 2020 more and more atlethes and promoters have come trying to overcome WSM. Now we have 4 big shows and the worse by is WSM. Atlethes rather be "the strongest man on earth", or even the "Rogue Invitational champ", and obviously win the Arnold's before even paying attention to WSM. Ever since Thor has been back he is very bad news for giants live, specially now that he is cooking an international deadlift competition wich will take place soon, arguably shattering the only decent hing giants live still has. I just don't see any ay Thor returns to WSM and he doesn't need to, he should stick to his guns and go after those titles like SMOE and Rogue's wich he hasn't won yet. Shatter as many records as he wants and just keep growing the sport. In the end WSM is runed by a corrupted organization, is out of touch with fans, atlethes and where the sport is currently.
Nope. We might be getting towards that but WSM is still the premier title of the lot. There's a reason Thor was so gutted at not getting more titles. It's not quite at the level anymore where most athletes would give up every other title to get just one WSM but if they were to pick one, it would be WSM. Rogue and SMOE aren't even blips on the public's radar. Only Arnolds comes close to the broader hype.
@@edwardchester1Nah mate. Ever since the Arnold's been rocking WSM became so outdated and that was in 2002. Nobody cares anymore about WSM. This year hype was floored but also in later years it's been the least talked about show, not even close to the others. Maybe is because WSM is aimed to a more casual audience and TV, but nobody even watches it until Christmas season IF you still are on TV, if not, not even that.
Nope. There is still most talented and strongest athletes at wsm even if Thor dont go. It's Thor's loss more and everything what made situation to this, was because how Thor behaved 2017. Great if he goes to wsm but not big deal if doesnt
@@noahglenn8305 I couldn't watch it even if I wanted to. Maybe I will catch it on the random Wednesday at 2am when they decide to air it. If not, oh well......
Thor is a business man and the mountain is its own brand. If guaranteed appearance money is offered for example, with whatever prize money he earns it would perhaps tease him back into the mix. Money can heal a lot of wounds.
It would be nice to see Thor compete in the WSM again. It would be even nicer to be able to watch it as a live stream and from somewhere more interesting than california or florida yet again. Cheers!
Giants Live recently made a "Thor post" on Facebook which did get me wondering... not for WSM, but i wondered if DL World Champs as an outside possibility
They did invited Thor to the deadlifts, he considered it and said he would of they, in sign of good faith, took down the "the truth" video in Eddie's and Giants Lives chanell. Eddie refused and here we are now, waiting for Thor to announce his own championship
He ain't hurting anymore, he's just having fun traveling the world and he's lost his fire. If he comes back, he won't be the same, he's too far behind now.
The broadcasting for worlds in the uk especially is a joke the other big comps are leaving it in the dust there's no reason why they can't show it live then still show it at Christmas like giants do
Lets be real its a piss poor comp now anyway compared to the real strongman comps If fans have to get up early in the morning to do spreadsheet follow alongs for ANY sport there is something drastically disconnected between fans and organisers Its a TV show which only keeps any sort of credibility because of the title name it holds Could be a massive comp that grows the sport exponentially if they did it for the fans and scrapped their TV rights deals, and instead focussed on the streaming model and brand deals, but theyre too closed minded and short sighted to care about what the fans think and just care about lining their own pockets. Who even watches terrestrial TV anymore anyway?! Exactly, no real true fans of the sport that buy merch, support athletes, and not the ones who will help make strongman more mainstream I hope Thor doesnt go based on everything they did to him, and it also begins to discredit the real value of holding the title if the top strongmen arent in attendance
Not to mention I can't imagine WSM having a livestream and more live coverage would influence the 4 or 5 senile Brits that still watch it on TV a year later. I mean, come on ... The people that watch the polished/edited WSM on christmas and the (international) fans of the sport that follow it live are completely different audiences.
I 100% understand Thor's position, and I don't blame him, but man it'dbe cool to see him back. As far as the poster goes, it's just saying invites are out, which as a former champ he gets an invite. Honestly it'd be a dick move NOT to include him.
Thors not coming, give that dream up. Martins would be cool, but worlds being his return comp is kinda iffy. Maybe he'll pull a Cambi and compete at Europe's first
As far as Evan not being in the post, I think it’s partially because he’s not an automatic invite just because he podiumed at worlds last year. He’s not a former champ and didn’t podium at giants this year
Is he even still alive? He dissapeared after the scandal and we don't know wheter he is even training, not to mention he hasn't made a public statement. I wouldn't be surprised if his invite comes with conditions like "only after an official statement". Because an athlete as famous as him with such a big scandal could derail the whole competition. People demanding his side of the story all the time or just people booing him would ruin the competitive atmosphere.
@@Simon-rb6yy Yeah he's in the wrong, but if we started ditching anyone who had an affair, or made a mistake, society would massively change. We'd lose half our politicians and quite a few of the royal family for one thing. So not all bad actually. I might change my mind on this...
@@johnsterizer Oh, totally agree, nobody should be excluded for a mistake/scandal. What my point is that Luke hasn't made a statement or shown remorse and before he does the topic just cant be laid to rest. It is reasonable to assume he will be heckled at during his Events and be the point of focus for the media for the drama of it all. and WSM would be stupid to risk their reputation and ruin the positive the atmosphere during events just to shield him during the competion when he hasn't done any effort to minimise the fallout of the scandal or shown no remorse. And lets be honest were talking about WSM which is a TV show first and foremost, they don't care about Sport integrity, so if they have to edit out all the Heckling and Booing and potentially cover up for him and justify his invite to the media while he is hiding from taking responsibility then maybe it just isn't worth it to invite him.
This is absolutely an attempt to pressure all those athletes into saying yes, especially Thor. They’re worried about SMOE taking the real ‘world championship’ spot. As much as having Thor compete would be great fun, I hope he refuses, for his own integrity and well-being.
SMOE is still a village competition, where athletes are only after the money, not for the title - literally only Thor and Mitch took it seriously this year. Rogue Invitational will probably become the new main competition for the athletes.
@@peeterl.2016 Strongly disagree, its a competition many fans take serious and the athletes aswell. Its fast growing and if it keeps growing it will soon out grow even WSM.
@@nbs90 A tiny community of hardcore fans. The vast majority of casual fans do not agree, and after the shit show they put forward this year they wont be growing much.
I just think WSM promoters need to step their game up in general. The Shaw classic and strongest man on earth title will overtake WSM as the pinnacle in strongman (should Brian continue with the Shaw classic) otherwise the Arnold’s will eventually hold that mantle. I believe that not getting with the times of live streaming competitions is limiting the overall growth of strongman and preventing it from genuinely blowing up as a sport like it deserves to. Every major fitness competition is live streamed and ran in a way that makes it super entertaining. Waiting months to see a competition I know the results to is wild. Theres so much growth for strongman available but the current way things are run is so limiting I say open WSM up to weight classes to get more athletes there to help pay for venue costs, have worlds strongest female and apply a solid pay out for the females like they do at the rogue invitational because the females are actually pretty exciting to watch.
What´s the deal between WSM and Hafthor? I don't know that one and googling is apparently pointless, I just get a bunch of reddit threads that are far too long to get into... Anyone care to summarize? :)
Thor returning would be nice, but I'd rather have other things. Can we get a live stream? If not live maybe get the edits done and broadcast within a week or two?
I'd accurately rather have 7 in each group for 35 athletes in total. There's never been this depth of talent, and it would be great to see more get the chance to battle it out!!
I would love to see Thor compete at WSM again… but unless Colin gives him a sincere apology face to face with a handshake…I don’t see it happening. That video was super disrespectful towards Thor and was blatantly dishonest to make him look like he refused to shake hands with Eddie for the win.
Apologies were already made and hands were extended towards Thor. After a while there's not much they can do if Thor's keep refusing to work with them. And Colin's probaly not going to retire/quit for Thor to come back to Giants Live/WSM
I don't blame Thor if he stays away. He was a bit of a sore loser in 17, but they did tweak footage of him afterward to make him look bad. And there are bigger shows now. 🤷 We have Rogue, ASC, SMOE, etc. WSM will always have the nostalgia, but no one really thinks that show crowns the strongest man in the world anymore. They need Thor much more than he needs them.
Desperate attempt by WSM to sell tickets for the event given the crappy advertising they done last year. I think most of us would like to see him there but they need him there a lot more than he needs to be there.
I just can't believe in 2025.... we still don't have WSM live! Every other competition..... but not the big one. They need to give themselves a shake! Looking forward to your coverage!
@@eladrio2311 Yeah, it is pretty poor. Maybe Brian will overtake it with SMOE! His shows are fantastic, and live coverage has been high standard every year I've watched it!
I think WSM has run its course out as a comp. Last few years have been boring honestly. WSM is over shadowed by The Arnolds, SMOE and Rogue lately. Only way Thor goes is if they offer the 505 lift with a shit ton of cash attached.
For strongman fans, yes. But for others, wsm is still the only comp. Wsm makes sure to never mention any other comps, if you only watch wsm you could easily be tricked into believing its the only comp there is.
Casual vs fans though. The revenue and history of world's will always be massive because it's got the TV side. I agree though from a strongman fan perspective.
WSM and its television rights is the single most reason why the strongman sport itself and the strongman community suffer and have suffered to expand to this day. It’s only been televised in North America and the UK (which equates to a coverage of less than 10% off the planet). It’s virtually impossible to get any footage in other countries. No wonder strongman is in the majority of countries unheard of and most athletes come from these places (UK and North America). I think other comps like the Arnold or Rogue (to some extend SMOE because it’s PPV) that are accessible should replace the WSM contest. Then invite the 30 strongest athletes; increase the comp to 10 events and draw randomly 1-2 grip, 4-5 moving and 4 static events; publish these events at least 4 months in advance and then you can find the actual strongest man on this planet….. no events get swapped at short notice or even on the day (rather drop it to 9 events if impossible to conduct 1 event)….. and no other favouritism as has been the case in the past.
You do understand former winners get invited automatically? And Martins doesn't accept it anyways, because he is not in a condition to compete at this level right now. Martins isn't like Luke and Tom, who are only after the money, Martins competes when he knows he is 100% to give all he got.
I see a lot of frivolous arguments here... As a strongman fan, i couldn't care less about the announcement posters. I care about them inviting the strongest. If Lucas Hatton doesnt get an invite, I'm not watching. Stop disrespecting athletes that don't submit to being a Giants Live regular.
@peeterl.2016 i hope your right, not because I don't like Hooper he's one of my all-time favorites, but for the entertainment of the sport. And it'll push him to an even higher level!!!!
Everyone saying it's desperate etc are totsl pillocks, he's invited because he's an active previous winner, that's literally the rules... imagine what you'd be saying if he wasn't invited. Everyone in that picture has qualified through the qualification process of GL or previous winner of WSM.
WSM should be called Worlds strongest Spreadsheet. 😂its all we get I know for athletes. They cant wait for WSM for the slonsors, money for heing WSM and title For fana. This is the worse competition to watch and care anymore now that we have plenty of shows to watch you know.....LIVE!!!!!
Can't wait to see the results on youtube and then wait until Christmas next year to see some footage
And then all the Strongman youtubers hype it up endlessly.
If Thor won’t compete neither will I, don’t even ask, I won’t go…. Unless you need help moving equipment then I’ll go
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Hope they send you an invite.
Ill help to
@@gym-kneecrickets6294 We need more people like you, who have a strong moral code, but will ditch it if necessary. I'm with you 100%.
As a fan, I want Thor there. As a human, I totally get it. They did him real dirty and he doesn’t need WSM, whereas they do stand to gain by having him
WSM doesnt neeed him either, the popularity raised when he left not as a result of it but the sport grew, they are doing just fine without him.
@ they may not need him, but they definitely want him. His popularity is only good for business and they know it.
I doubt that Thor wants to deal with that Circus. The Arnold, Shaw, and Rogue are all better contests IMO.
@OldManStrength2112 The trouble is Arnold's and Shaw won't do max deadlift with figure of 8 straps and DL suits so that only leaves Rogue for Thor to set DL record
@@craigpawalawski4232 I'm guessing Thor and Mitch will have a seperate event for the 505 Deadlift world record.
Shaw is nowhere near with that shit show they put on a few months ago LMAO, no where near, joke event.
Arnold and rogue are great.
@@MrBoboiscool The Axle Bar mixup and Squat Event were Pretty Pathetic.
I actually hope Thor sticks to his resolution not to support the organization that unfairly smeared his image. Even more impressive than super strength is the guts to stick up for yourself, even when you're offered fame and money to bend over and take it.
how did they smear his image?
@@spencerknight1730 there's a thing called google
@spencerknight1730 they created a multi part video full of lies and misrepresented information to make him look like both a cheat and a bad person.
To deflect from the fact that theres a high probability they changed most of the events in 2017's WSM to suit Eddies strengths.@alexanderpugmire6600
I thought he quit because his double-dipping reps on the viking press didn't count?
The sad thing about WSM is it’s still a TV show made for average viewers that see strongman as a freak show, SMOE & Arnold’s + rogue are doing it 10x better than WSM, even look at the cheap athlete announcement posters, they are a joke - as a designer they look so amateur compared to All the top comps, there’s 0 investment to improve the WSM comp for the strongman FAN. I no longer look forward to this comp, always watching it off someone’s IG story to find out what’s happening, all the real strongman fans see the whole comp anyways through online leaked videos so why not just livestream it on YT or a pay wall ( I understand the complications of WSM, but as a fan I’m sick of it tbh). I’m really glad we have the other big comps to look forward to which care about the sport and everyone who enjoys it.
SMOE is not doing it better... this year was a joke a clown show.
honeslty i hope thor sticks to his guns and refuses the invitation, WSm and eddie dragged his name through the dirt during the build up to the boxing match, regardless of whether it was deserved or not, he has no reason to go back, he has nothing to prove at WSM
What has Eddie won since 17 lost boxing lost to Brian should I go on
@@jameschristy9966Not really relevant though is it?
Thor was not innocent...
@@carlh296Thor was not innocent and he displayed poor sportsmanship but he deleted his post about being cheated out of WSM 2017 shortly after posting and has clearly grown since then. That being said, Colin Bryce is an event organizer (and was head ref in 2017) and should be held to a much higher standard than athletes. Him giving Eddie the bts footage from WSM was unprofessional and shattered the little bit of trust people had in him. If anything it gave weight to Thors claims that Eddie and Colin are friends who colluded to “fix” WSM 2017
I find it ridiculous Thor fans think he was hard done by, he won 1 event out of 6 the same as mateusz and brian they weren't complaining about being robbed Eddie won 3 events and easily won those and stopped trying by the final event.
I doubt Hafthor will ever work with WSM…..Giants Live
Despite being a huge strongman fan, I'd respect Thor if he doesn't go. He has his morals and deserves respect for that. In any case, I find the other big 3 competitions more exciting and with better event selection.
I pretty sure if it wasn't for those nasty videos Eddie (and Colin) put out before the boxing-fight and them continuing to disrespect his deadlift Thor would be on board. Don't see it happening like this.
Wsm and giants live are pretty much begging Thor to come back at this point.😂
I hope he sticks to his word and never competes for them again.
Why would he risk being screwed over again and have his name even further tarnished??🤔
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Screwed???
@@Klepzeiker1984 yup screwed.
In 2017 there was a drag event In the heats and was supposed to be in the finals, but after Colin saw how bad Eddie did in the heats, he removed that event from the final, because if Eddie did bad again he obviously wouldn't win.
Then ya got the whole Viking press rep deduction BS once they realized removing that event still wasn't enough to guarantee Eddie victory.😂
That's a screw job if I've ever seen one. 🤔
@@benji3008that was bullshit. Eddie would have finished in the exact same position.
@@benji3008Yup that was the Tire flip into chain drag, and Eddie sucked at the chain. He got 4th with the tire but would end way back if the chain was there.
Thor back at WSM? What’s next, seccs tape with Eddie?
Bro 😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂
seccs?
@@thearm95 he can't write the correct spelling because TH-cam hide most comments that have certain words in them.
Ah yes the seccs! I do it all the time!
I hope he doesn't. WSM made their bed, let them sleep in it. Going back would be dismissing every complaint he's had with that shady lot.
It kind of looks like they're saying, "We've invited all the former winners who are still competing, and these next five guys who've been a part of it before." No confirmation from any of them, as far as I know, but obviously you can pencil in Mitch and Tom.
I invited all these guys to my birthday party too, can't wait 🎉
I’m looking forward to watching your videos running upto and including the competition 🙏
As soon as I saw the WSM post I’m like, where is Loz & Liz’s reaction video! Crazy crazy!
Hope he doesnt. Wsm is so behind in streaming, events, and location. Fans would be better without it lol smoe, asc, and rogue are mucu better.
Magnusson invitational was also awesome to watch with the natural elements
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Couldn’t agree more.
And yes, I truly love the MVM with not only its nature close events (when in real life do you find perfectly round atlas stones) and being actually outside. Full credit to Magnus for organising it as these elements must make it really difficult to plan.
Desperation from WSM.
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100% support Thor not going back to worlds after the 2017 footage was used to tarnish his rep. Would be great for the sport but organizers also need to know that kind of stuff is unacceptable
Edit: I agree that Thor was a sore looser in 2017 but that does not excuse the organizers in allowing footage to be used to paint him in a dishonest way (especially not shaking Eddie’s hand on the podium). Organizers should be held to a higher standard than athletes
Agree
Eddie WAS the better athlete in 2017
Thor lost fair and square, he's just a baby and bad loser
Disagree there. WSM will still continue forward being the biggest comp for the foreseeable future. So the only ones missing out is Thor and the rest of us who want to see him there
You must be having a laugh, WSM should of sued that big baby for tarnishing it's name by saying it was fixed and they were cheating and can't be trusted, I've never seen a bigger baby just because he didn't win. Thor is an amazing athlete, but the way he acted always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there's a clip of him intimidating Colin to try and change the result from when he double dipped about 100 times, absolute juiced head bully!
I think your opening statement said all I need about WSM. If I can't watch it, then what's the point of it?
@5:20 damn I love Liz's commentary
Laughed so hard. Best was her cuck chair in the hotel room at Magnus classic
Even with the beef aside it doesnt really make sense for Hafthor to go. Its a TV show with an archaic format that cant be changed because its tied up in a TV deal. SMOE and Rogue are both higher paying and more accessible, ASC pays a bit less but is more accessible and has the legacy of being the "true world title" when WSM and IFSA split the sport. The only appeal of WSM is that its a trademark that already existed when the sport was in its infancy and dominated by powerlifters and weightlifters.
If we don’t get Lucas Hatton invited this year due to “too many Americans” WSM loses all credibility, and confirms it’s ALL about TV/politics and not truly finding the strongest man.
Agree
Dropped the ball with the Cuban who didn’t do squat
I feel like they have already proven that many times at this point
@ fair point. This would really solidify it for me personally
you still need confirmation?
WSM and Giants Live need Thor more than he needs them. Back in the 10's was the other way around given there was only WSM and the Arnold's and giants live promoted more big events. But ever since Thor gave them the finger in 2020 more and more atlethes and promoters have come trying to overcome WSM. Now we have 4 big shows and the worse by is WSM. Atlethes rather be "the strongest man on earth", or even the "Rogue Invitational champ", and obviously win the Arnold's before even paying attention to WSM.
Ever since Thor has been back he is very bad news for giants live, specially now that he is cooking an international deadlift competition wich will take place soon, arguably shattering the only decent hing giants live still has.
I just don't see any ay Thor returns to WSM and he doesn't need to, he should stick to his guns and go after those titles like SMOE and Rogue's wich he hasn't won yet. Shatter as many records as he wants and just keep growing the sport. In the end WSM is runed by a corrupted organization, is out of touch with fans, atlethes and where the sport is currently.
Nope. We might be getting towards that but WSM is still the premier title of the lot. There's a reason Thor was so gutted at not getting more titles. It's not quite at the level anymore where most athletes would give up every other title to get just one WSM but if they were to pick one, it would be WSM. Rogue and SMOE aren't even blips on the public's radar. Only Arnolds comes close to the broader hype.
@@edwardchester1Nah mate. Ever since the Arnold's been rocking WSM became so outdated and that was in 2002. Nobody cares anymore about WSM. This year hype was floored but also in later years it's been the least talked about show, not even close to the others.
Maybe is because WSM is aimed to a more casual audience and TV, but nobody even watches it until Christmas season IF you still are on TV, if not, not even that.
Nope.
There is still most talented and strongest athletes at wsm even if Thor dont go.
It's Thor's loss more and everything what made situation to this, was because how Thor behaved 2017.
Great if he goes to wsm but not big deal if doesnt
WHERE WAS EDDIE'S INVITE????????????
WSM can go the way of the dinosaurs- I don’t watch it and never will- rogue and ASC and SMOE put full streams online for fans.
@@noahglenn8305 I couldn't watch it even if I wanted to. Maybe I will catch it on the random Wednesday at 2am when they decide to air it. If not, oh well......
I’m excited. So excited I got tickets!
Thor is a business man and the mountain is its own brand. If guaranteed appearance money is offered for example, with whatever prize money he earns it would perhaps tease him back into the mix. Money can heal a lot of wounds.
That opens up a whole new can of worms though
I don't think Thor is needing for money
I’ll take a live stream over Thor returning 😂
@@doughty616 I'll second this..
Thor can only make any competition better.
It would be nice to see Thor compete in the WSM again. It would be even nicer to be able to watch it as a live stream and from somewhere more interesting than california or florida yet again. Cheers!
I wish they would do a cold city again one day. Most of the athletes hail from European countries, anyway.
Giants Live recently made a "Thor post" on Facebook which did get me wondering... not for WSM, but i wondered if DL World Champs as an outside possibility
Thors organizing his own event
They did invited Thor to the deadlifts, he considered it and said he would of they, in sign of good faith, took down the "the truth" video in Eddie's and Giants Lives chanell. Eddie refused and here we are now, waiting for Thor to announce his own championship
WSM is not worth it. The true world championship is held now during Shaw Classic.
Martins always gives his best, great respect! I understand about hurting! I hope he has healed up!
He ain't hurting anymore, he's just having fun traveling the world and he's lost his fire. If he comes back, he won't be the same, he's too far behind now.
@@TyVince-p6r I am so glad he is out of pain. I did see him doing traditional stone lifting activities on youtube. I also love his painting!
WSM is just using his name shamefully. Pathetic if you ask me.
The broadcasting for worlds in the uk especially is a joke the other big comps are leaving it in the dust there's no reason why they can't show it live then still show it at Christmas like giants do
Lets be real its a piss poor comp now anyway compared to the real strongman comps
If fans have to get up early in the morning to do spreadsheet follow alongs for ANY sport there is something drastically disconnected between fans and organisers
Its a TV show which only keeps any sort of credibility because of the title name it holds
Could be a massive comp that grows the sport exponentially if they did it for the fans and scrapped their TV rights deals, and instead focussed on the streaming model and brand deals, but theyre too closed minded and short sighted to care about what the fans think and just care about lining their own pockets.
Who even watches terrestrial TV anymore anyway?! Exactly, no real true fans of the sport that buy merch, support athletes, and not the ones who will help make strongman more mainstream
I hope Thor doesnt go based on everything they did to him, and it also begins to discredit the real value of holding the title if the top strongmen arent in attendance
100% and some of these past strongmen never call it out. At least Brian and Thor have called this out
Spot on
Not to mention I can't imagine WSM having a livestream and more live coverage would influence the 4 or 5 senile Brits that still watch it on TV a year later. I mean, come on ... The people that watch the polished/edited WSM on christmas and the (international) fans of the sport that follow it live are completely different audiences.
@Simon-rb6yy couldn't agree more mate. Only those still paying their TV licenses 😂
Trying to buy wsm tix as an international person is very frustrating. Even with prev axs buying exp.
I guess I missed it, but I never saw or heard about Worlds airing in America this year 🤔
As a ukadian i dont even watch WSM any more
Haha, true. I forgot to watch it last Christmas, first time ever. It's so far away from the actual competition that I forgot about it completely.
I 100% understand Thor's position, and I don't blame him, but man it'dbe cool to see him back. As far as the poster goes, it's just saying invites are out, which as a former champ he gets an invite. Honestly it'd be a dick move NOT to include him.
I just want Mateusz to not be injured for one, and not running into a deadlift.
I like the invited post. Hope they continue that for all the invites. It's interesting to see who accepts or declines.
Thors not coming, give that dream up. Martins would be cool, but worlds being his return comp is kinda iffy. Maybe he'll pull a Cambi and compete at Europe's first
As far as Evan not being in the post, I think it’s partially because he’s not an automatic invite just because he podiumed at worlds last year. He’s not a former champ and didn’t podium at giants this year
Evan will get an invite just this is about athletes who earned their automatic invites
@@petershortland478right that’s what I said lol
No mention of luke stoltman being invited, as current esm surly he would be or is it due to his conduct at rouge off screen and split with kushi
See comment re "shooting loads".
He will 100% be invited as he was top 3 at a giants which is an official qualifier.
Is he even still alive? He dissapeared after the scandal and we don't know wheter he is even training, not to mention he hasn't made a public statement. I wouldn't be surprised if his invite comes with conditions like "only after an official statement". Because an athlete as famous as him with such a big scandal could derail the whole competition. People demanding his side of the story all the time or just people booing him would ruin the competitive atmosphere.
@@Simon-rb6yy Yeah he's in the wrong, but if we started ditching anyone who had an affair, or made a mistake, society would massively change. We'd lose half our politicians and quite a few of the royal family for one thing. So not all bad actually. I might change my mind on this...
@@johnsterizer Oh, totally agree, nobody should be excluded for a mistake/scandal. What my point is that Luke hasn't made a statement or shown remorse and before he does the topic just cant be laid to rest. It is reasonable to assume he will be heckled at during his Events and be the point of focus for the media for the drama of it all. and WSM would be stupid to risk their reputation and ruin the positive the atmosphere during events just to shield him during the competion when he hasn't done any effort to minimise the fallout of the scandal or shown no remorse. And lets be honest were talking about WSM which is a TV show first and foremost, they don't care about Sport integrity, so if they have to edit out all the Heckling and Booing and potentially cover up for him and justify his invite to the media while he is hiding from taking responsibility then maybe it just isn't worth it to invite him.
This is absolutely an attempt to pressure all those athletes into saying yes, especially Thor. They’re worried about SMOE taking the real ‘world championship’ spot. As much as having Thor compete would be great fun, I hope he refuses, for his own integrity and well-being.
SMOE is still a village competition, where athletes are only after the money, not for the title - literally only Thor and Mitch took it seriously this year. Rogue Invitational will probably become the new main competition for the athletes.
@@peeterl.2016yeah but the fact that 2 of the best hold it in such high regard shows its potential to grow
@@peeterl.2016 Strongly disagree, its a competition many fans take serious and the athletes aswell. Its fast growing and if it keeps growing it will soon out grow even WSM.
@@nbs90 A tiny community of hardcore fans. The vast majority of casual fans do not agree, and after the shit show they put forward this year they wont be growing much.
I just think WSM promoters need to step their game up in general. The Shaw classic and strongest man on earth title will overtake WSM as the pinnacle in strongman (should Brian continue with the Shaw classic) otherwise the Arnold’s will eventually hold that mantle. I believe that not getting with the times of live streaming competitions is limiting the overall growth of strongman and preventing it from genuinely blowing up as a sport like it deserves to.
Every major fitness competition is live streamed and ran in a way that makes it super entertaining. Waiting months to see a competition I know the results to is wild.
Theres so much growth for strongman available but the current way things are run is so limiting
I say open WSM up to weight classes to get more athletes there to help pay for venue costs, have worlds strongest female and apply a solid pay out for the females like they do at the rogue invitational because the females are actually pretty exciting to watch.
Is there a deadline to accept? So we all know who's in it...?
If not...why not?
What´s the deal between WSM and Hafthor? I don't know that one and googling is apparently pointless, I just get a bunch of reddit threads that are far too long to get into... Anyone care to summarize? :)
Thor returning would be nice, but I'd rather have other things. Can we get a live stream? If not live maybe get the edits done and broadcast within a week or two?
I'd accurately rather have 7 in each group for 35 athletes in total. There's never been this depth of talent, and it would be great to see more get the chance to battle it out!!
Would love to see Thor at WSM!! ❤❤❤
I would like to see Matuesz there
If Thor doesn't accept (I hope he doesn't, tbh), then I feel like WSM really shot themselves in the foot with this one.
I would love to see Thor compete at WSM again… but unless Colin gives him a sincere apology face to face with a handshake…I don’t see it happening. That video was super disrespectful towards Thor and was blatantly dishonest to make him look like he refused to shake hands with Eddie for the win.
Apologies were already made and hands were extended towards Thor. After a while there's not much they can do if Thor's keep refusing to work with them. And Colin's probaly not going to retire/quit for Thor to come back to Giants Live/WSM
WSM needs Thor in my view.
😮 already watched at x5 speed wowza
We know we're gonna see Singleton and Luke Stoltman being invited, with the podiums and wins they got in 2024.
Martins? not a chance, unfortunately. Thor will probably sue them for commercial use of his image 😂
I don't blame Thor if he stays away. He was a bit of a sore loser in 17, but they did tweak footage of him afterward to make him look bad.
And there are bigger shows now. 🤷 We have Rogue, ASC, SMOE, etc. WSM will always have the nostalgia, but no one really thinks that show crowns the strongest man in the world anymore.
They need Thor much more than he needs them.
Desperate attempt by WSM to sell tickets for the event given the crappy advertising they done last year. I think most of us would like to see him there but they need him there a lot more than he needs to be there.
I just can't believe in 2025.... we still don't have WSM live! Every other competition..... but not the big one. They need to give themselves a shake! Looking forward to your coverage!
it's not the big one for the strongman community anymore
@JBS7551 Aw right.... What is?
@@BobMc87 anything that doesn't cause the real fans to have to follow it on spreadsheets
@@eladrio2311 Yeah, it is pretty poor. Maybe Brian will overtake it with SMOE! His shows are fantastic, and live coverage has been high standard every year I've watched it!
WSM has the worst leadership in the sport. I'm proud of Thor for staying out of it
Max Sam's channel up lift a girl on a lazy day. They have one classy channel!
IMO, looks like WSM just got tired of 'why isn't x athlete there'. I like this transparency
Deceptive marketing
Hope Thor says no Wsm and anything that have Colin Bryce in it.
I think WSM has run its course out as a comp. Last few years have been boring honestly. WSM is over shadowed by The Arnolds, SMOE and Rogue lately. Only way Thor goes is if they offer the 505 lift with a shit ton of cash attached.
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For strongman fans, yes. But for others, wsm is still the only comp. Wsm makes sure to never mention any other comps, if you only watch wsm you could easily be tricked into believing its the only comp there is.
Casual vs fans though. The revenue and history of world's will always be massive because it's got the TV side. I agree though from a strongman fan perspective.
Rogue surpass them in money but not there yet.
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw SMOE too
I hope he doesn't, also, CLEVER marketing? if that's CLEVER I'm EINSTEIN
Thor would never do a corrupt england show like this
Picking the British will be hard so much talent
Pavlo and Oleksii are great athletes however they simply arent near the top level. They routinely dissapoint me.
As a former winner, Oleksii will always get an invite.
Definitely would love to see Thor compete at worlds strongest man and win it.
WSM and its television rights is the single most reason why the strongman sport itself and the strongman community suffer and have suffered to expand to this day. It’s only been televised in North America and the UK (which equates to a coverage of less than 10% off the planet). It’s virtually impossible to get any footage in other countries. No wonder strongman is in the majority of countries unheard of and most athletes come from these places (UK and North America). I think other comps like the Arnold or Rogue (to some extend SMOE because it’s PPV) that are accessible should replace the WSM contest. Then invite the 30 strongest athletes; increase the comp to 10 events and draw randomly 1-2 grip, 4-5 moving and 4 static events; publish these events at least 4 months in advance and then you can find the actual strongest man on this planet….. no events get swapped at short notice or even on the day (rather drop it to 9 events if impossible to conduct 1 event)….. and no other favouritism as has been the case in the past.
Where's Mateusz?
Thor should agree to return on the condition the fans get a live stream 🤣
#WSM is a joke now compared to the other big shows. Arnold, rogue, and SMOE has all over taken it.
Thor should stay away from anything that involves Bryce.
I'd argue Martins doesn't deserve an invite :/
You do understand former winners get invited automatically? And Martins doesn't accept it anyways, because he is not in a condition to compete at this level right now. Martins isn't like Luke and Tom, who are only after the money, Martins competes when he knows he is 100% to give all he got.
The other big shows have caught up and surpassed WSM. Who really cares about wsm anymore
Agreed. I far prefer the other big 3. Especially SMOE which is the absolute true test of strength.
Ask any of the athletes which one they want to win most....most of them will say WSM
@@trident1314 Maybe in the past, not so much anymore
By default, past Champions of the WSM have always been invited to come back.
I see a lot of frivolous arguments here... As a strongman fan, i couldn't care less about the announcement posters. I care about them inviting the strongest. If Lucas Hatton doesnt get an invite, I'm not watching. Stop disrespecting athletes that don't submit to being a Giants Live regular.
Genuine trauma for me when Mitch and Tom compete❤
But still love it???
PLEASE CHECK OUT JOHN HAACK. JUST LOOK AT HIM. HES DOING STRONGMAN NOW.
Thor has a new movie gig. He will be busy. He won't be back
Hope Thor dosent go. Worlds and Collin were dicks to him.
Thor will agree to do it and then the final will be six pressing events lol
I am excited for Martins, hope he would consider it :)
Thor needs to understand that forgiveness is for him and not the person he is forgiving.
Sorry, but I wouldn't like 2 see thor at worlds. Dinna actually like him
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WSM is the only major show i dont watch. I dont care for it.
Same
Well, is not like we could watch it anyway. Lol
I hoped to see VIP tickets this year but haven’t so far
Bring Thor back to WSM!
It doesn’t matter who’s going or how many - Mitch is winning it again!
2025 will probably be the year of Mitch's downfall.
@peeterl.2016 i hope your right, not because I don't like Hooper he's one of my all-time favorites, but for the entertainment of the sport. And it'll push him to an even higher level!!!!
Tbh i thought he was going to do wsm but he refuses to do giants live kinda hard to become the Goatof strongman without competing in wsm.
Everyone saying it's desperate etc are totsl pillocks, he's invited because he's an active previous winner, that's literally the rules... imagine what you'd be saying if he wasn't invited. Everyone in that picture has qualified through the qualification process of GL or previous winner of WSM.
I hope we get everyone in the show
WSM should be called Worlds strongest Spreadsheet. 😂its all we get
I know for athletes. They cant wait for WSM for the slonsors, money for heing WSM and title
For fana. This is the worse competition to watch and care anymore now that we have plenty of shows to watch you know.....LIVE!!!!!