It took 666 days, but I think we're FINALLY here...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- We have a Formula 1 title fight. Well, I think so anyway. Let's talk about it.
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You called me crazy.
If we see some spice from Ferrari in Canada, I'm moving to Italy and screaming "FORZA FERRARI" in the streets
No I didn't ;)
Title is on now
We were right I'm afraid
Red bull after watching this:
“And I took that personally”
Poke the bear.
@@TommoOnTH-cambased on the thumbnail, i can make the inference that Norris is in the fight? Id say thats a bit far fetched, i dont think hes ready, dont get me wrong he has matured but that Mclaren will drop off over the season
@@Ballen_F1what gives you the idea that they can’t sustain their pace and development rate? Seems weird to make such a statement as if it’s fact.
Considering that the RB20 is a new/changed concept, I fully expect RBR zo have a few upgrades in the pipeline. But I think it's just to early to call this a "title fight", it's only been 2 races where McLaren and Ferrari have been this close.
@@Filnor_pb it would be highly entertaining if Red Bull runs into a development wall with this concept like Merc did. Not at all likely, but I’d be overjoyed.
Calling it a title fight is really far fetched
to be fair, if checo can't keep up with max and mclaren keeps improving and being consistent, it very well might become a fight at least in the wcc
With that kind of thinking, it would seem so. McLaren and Ferrari are getting closer. Instead of being pessimistic, root for them!
He's got to fill his midweek content with something. There's no title fight here for the drivers.
@@justinburley8659fuck no
Anything can happen in life and it often does
I don’t think a title fight is likely, BUT that’s not what’s important. We are now gonna get competitive and exciting races consistently. That’s defo worth celebrating.
I automatically read the BUT as Jenson’s acronym and was like ‘why exactly is he relevant here’
Hats of to you Tommo👏 spot on with the Monaco prediction!
There is ZERO chance of a title fight this year but are there chances of race win fights yes... Maybe
Tbf if mclaren drivers get it right as a team they can easily win most of the races and it being the most races ever will help them a lot
its definitely a non-zero chance.
@@kithanakodahsave the comment for end of the season
Why tho?
@@TommoOnTH-cam why would THE Max Verstappen Lose 48 or 60 points to either of these two. The RB will at least stay on par with the Ferrari and Mclaren for the rest of the season. Thats enough for Max to win it easily with his consistency. I think you are still underestimating Max and RB, we have seen what they arw capable of the last years that won't change soon.
Bro saw two slightly competitive races and those content eyes lit up.
No we are seeing two teams getting better and better after 2 whole years of agony for us and we are here just hoping to see some more battles! It's not only for "content"😅
31 points.
@@TommoOnTH-cam and -24 from Red Bull
💚🤍❤️
I hope you're right about the Driver's title but I'll believe it when I see it.
However, I think P1 for the Constructors is on. MCL and FER are rising just as Checo hits his summer European swoon. THAT might be the title fight we see.
Yes, but i dont think weve seen the best out of the SF24 evo yet. The rear wing they used in Imola was too draggy, hence why they lost "so much" time in S1. Ferrari already have a lower drag wing, and its been reported they have more in the pipeline, plus a reasonably large package coming to silverstone.
The fight for the constructors will come down to driver consistesy, R&D and PU reliability.
33 wins in 40. Soak that in. Really soak that in.
Watch it, drink it in. 🍻
Max staying true to his og race number lol
At the start of 2021, Max had 10 victories. He now has 59. That sounds even more bonkers.
probably would have won Australia 2024 as well(the other races where he retired he just wasn't on the pace to win) seeing as he held on to Sainz for multiple laps with the brake being on.
@@frankhuurman3955 yeah, but if his mom had balls...
Tommo, what are you smoking when you made this video?
Max will win the title with over 100+ points. If I am wrong I will buy you a crate of beer or a bottle of wine, whatever you prefer.
And yes, please come back to this video and comment at the end of the season.
I don't think anybody will need to come back, I certainly wouldn't bet against you in any case
Pretty full of himself 😂 but whatever, F1
I request a crate of Aspall cider please Remy. See you in December.
@@TommoOnTH-camI like your confidence, you probably are Stefano Domenicali/Mohammed Ben Sulayem in disguise
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Well, we have competitive races again. I wouldn't say we have a title fight. The Constructors MIGHT be up for grabs by season's end.
This year seems like a 2020 where we get a few other winners but no real battle for the title. The season is still pretty fun and exciting. But Next year is gonna go hard. Like lewis vs max vs charles vs lando. This year will be close, but next year guys get ready. Im calling it from now.
Edit: what cane after 2020??? The greatest season in f1. F1 always likes to repeat itself, lets see if it does that again…
Ya, that will be tasty 😊
And then we’ll have 2026 and everything will be ruined again 😭
You're confused with 2019. First half was straight Merc dominance with 5 straight 1-2s and in the second half Ferrari and RBR started to win races.
More 2019
I'm rather sure it will be Oscar ahead of Lewis the way both of them are driving right now. Sure, Oscar v Lando is not as close as Lewis v George, but George hasn't been fantastic, Lando certainly has, and between Lewis and Oscar it's not crazy to say the younger of the two will develop more over the course of this year and during next season.
Max will win his 4th this year, there’s no real argument against it
Ya, but next season will be tasty
Even if Ferrari and McLaren now have cars consistently capable of fighting for wins for the rest of the year Max has a big enough gap to win the wdc. He still won despite having a pretty bad weekend and having to fight for it.
Red Bull could lose the constructors though due to Perez
@RachelSchloer well, it's still a lot of races, a lot can happen. additionally, both mclaren drivers and the mclaren car itself seem to be the quickest now (in imola, max got a tow, that made him get pole, otherwise it would've been lando)and who knows, maybe we actually will have a fight towards the end for the WDC. and it will especially be spicy in terms of WCC, because perez seems to struggle a lot again ^^
@@luyolomnyani1639 absolutely :D
I think it started in Spa 2022. Coming back from the summer break, Ferrari were hurt significantly by TD39. Max comfortably won the race from 14th. At the time the conversation was about how Ferrari were bottling this championship, but by the end of that season everyone had to admit that Max would’ve still won even if Ferrari played it perfectly.
These last couple of seasons are completely Toto Wolffs fault.
No, Roby, no!
That was so not right!
@@8tonystark8 Why not?
I completely agree which is why I really hate mercedes, They are all like spoilt children and the only one who isn't always crying about the car is george because he's always driven shitty cars
@@greenfj1466George isn’t any better. Always trying to engage team orders when it suits him then argues with the team when it doesn’t
@@ibeast2959 Well no one is perfect and he has his flaws, But he just wants to be no.1 in the team while the other guys will do everything possible to ruin everything other teams have worked for and think they are the only ones suffering
Max is in beast mode this year. I'd bet a lot of money on him winning WDC without any major problems
Max's sector 1 time from the lap without Hulkenberg was also fast enough for pole. He gained some but went deep because of it.
Nice to see you enjoy EmpLemon too
Despite being a neutral, I always love the underdog but also the times a driver overcomes a "block". Seeing Lando finally get a well-deserved win was a joy, and I will undoubtedly be ridiculously happy if Charles finally gets on the podium, especially the top step, at his home race. Should he do it, it could well be the race that removes his bad luck there throughout the future.
(Although some, like Hamilton, do especially well at them, home races often seem cursed! Remember Reubens never winning in Brazil, mostly because his car would conk out. I'd shed tears for him! And there are many more such cases, not just in F1.)
When it comes down to individual races and the championship, may the best driver and team win their respective competitions. Should Max do it again, this will be as tough a season, if not tougher, than his first WC. If each race only gives one or two near race-long fights, it'll be a great season. For those of you too young to remember the pre-hybrid era, two season-long competitors has often been the norm. I learned decades ago that all you need is one good fight for it to be remembered as a terrific race! Nothing has changed.
Shar Leclair is every Brits favorite driver.
Actually he's saying "sharl lecler" which is a _lot_ closer to correct than many people say. If he did pronounce his surname "Leclare" he'd be spot on. The last consonant of both names should not be pronounced.
@@y_fam_goeglyd Leave that to frenchies. English speakers just sound dumb doing that.
Great video! Exited too see what you do next 😁
3:55 AYO THIS SONG IS A BOP
What’s it called?
Damn. Its 895 days since Hamilton last won a racd.
Alonso: over 4000 💀
Try being an Alonso fan.
Good
Also, Imola put Verstappen at a higher win percentage than Hamilton. He'll likely extend that this season.
@@n.b.5258true but max has 8 less years
I think the one thing all of these McLaren and Ferrari glazers fail to consider is that they have brought huge upgrades already, whereas red bull haven’t really done so yet. The other teams are just catching up. When red bull next puts in a big package, they’re going right back to 20 second gaps every race
This whole video is an incredibly bold shout my guy
Max is definitely the best driver on the grid, but lando, charles, and even sainz on his day with the right set up can fight. Piastri is very close, but I definitely think were in for some exciting fights in 2024, and if everything goes right then maybe a title fight :)
I really hope we see more competitive races onwards, the top three teams seem very close to each other now. Also love your channel!!!
The goat is here
If everything goes right: if Max goes to jail and comes back after 3 races
@@DailyWVideos :)
By the end of the year, will Max and Oscar be the best drivers on the grid? In my view, YES. Oscar will have significantly more experience with race pace and tyre management by then. For the remainder of 2024, Oscar will probably constantly beat Lando in qualifying. Watch out for 2025.
Hypothetically, the championship would be close. But would it be hard to beat Max? Extremely. We need to realise who he is. He is a talented driver who can make most of the car - as seen in Imola when they had the wrong setup each time.
So far, Max has a great advantage in the WDC, and there's NO doubt Max will win another race.
Also these two races were just outliers for RedBull. Miami saw everyone struggling with tyre warmup, which RedBull in particular is the worst for since they barely work their front tyres. And Imola they went the wrong way with their setup, when the car was in its window on the mediums it shot down the road. Just wait till we get back to a more traditional track, and McLaren and Ferrari will be ages away.
Visuals on point once again
The thumbnail makes me think of an F1 version of sonic heroes
Sonic fan spotted
Imagine bringing Vettel next year in
Both Max and Seb, 4 time world champs, in a red bull
In a red bull going all out
McLaren seems to outperform RB with both are on hard tires. RB seems to have the upper hand on Soft/Medium tires. Since Monaco and Canada are not tracks where hard tires are typically used, McLaren may fade a bit in the next couple of races.
I’ll never forget Charles’ crash at Paul Ricard, primarily because he shout REALLY scared my dog and she went and hid when it happened…
You definitely waited a day or two with uploading this to get the days to 666
the f1 gods have purposefully chosen THAT number
We don't have a title fight this year. Can see Lando/Charles/Carlos/Oscar maybe picking up the odd win here and there. Next year is looking SPICY though!
I think personally...
Monaco is going to be vastly similar in terms of performance and race pace by each as they were in Imola so it may be deceiving with this title fight aspect. What will be interesting to see is how it continues after monaco, when the tracks open up, change style and suit different teams and drivers. It may not be a crazy title fight for drivers this year, but constructors might still be in for a shot, and this will have a knock-on effect for next year.
We are literally going from imola to monaco? 🤣 How more of a changing style of track can we have. And NO Mclaren will underperform cause their weakness is slow corners.
@@InflictedMedia I wasn't suggesting that we weren't going from Imola to Monaco, but that Monaco will produce a similar style of race due to the fact that, like Imola, it is a short, narrow track with limited overtaking areas and only 1 DRS.
Mclaren may underperform at Monaco, they may not, I never suggested anything about one specific team. I was more looking at the broader, long-term nature of the calendar where not all tracks will be like Monaco or Imola, and that in itself may produce an interesting aspect to follow.
@@HiBoa Well in this case, you're right. I misread, I thought you suggested that the race results will be similar/same as Imola. I don't exactly agree with the flow of the both circuits, as Monaco has way more slow corners than Imola. Sadly not many overtaking opportunities. May the race have some rain to spice it up a little bit. 👍🏼
Tommo very SUS number
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I mean, derrrrrrr?
I don't make the rules
🤣🤣🤣😂
Illuminati confirmed
There is definitely a title fight on this year. Especially from a mclaren point og view where they have said the later part of this season is where to watch them
Great one T- Bone thank you mate. Best in the game brother 😎
I love how these videos have gran turismo music vibes but aren't gran turismo music.
Tommo I really want to believe this, but we need to see more races before calling it. Its only been 2 races were redbull were outpaced, and problems from redbull were nessesary for them to be outplaced.
But I do like the idea of it
Nah man I don't think there's a title fight for WDC. Maybe one for WCC because of Perez underperforming though
Nice ti finally see the tightening.
we have the start of what could turn into what could turn into a title fight and you're gonna go and jinx us
This tommo jinx is about to hit like crack🔥🔥
Bro thinks it's gonna be a title fight💀
Thing is is talking about hulkenberg helping him on that lap is that his best sector one without the toe would still have gotten him full so yes while it helped him on that particular if he just would have replicated his best sector one then it wouldn't matter
Immaculate choice for the background song
What’s it called?
constructors - yes
Drivers - hell No
max has it in the bag even if you deduce the strength of that RB to just straight line and DRS there are enough of the straight line circuits combined with some where max is a beast add at least a couple of tenths to the car i.e Zandavoort ,mexico(both in a way ), others....there are SPAs , MONZAs, Vegas, that should be enough he is that good even if car is not good he gets p2 or p3 at the worst (monaco is a one off tbh)
I believe Lando can fight Max. He's proven himself against the likes of Lewis and Fernando, no reason why he can't fight wheel-to-wheel with Max. We may not see that in Monaco, but I'm sure we will come the other European races! Game ON 🔥🔥🔥
I'm going to save this video for the end of the season. You will not get away with this prediction ;)
Mclaren had the fastest car this weekend. They took 2 and 4, while Verstappen took pole and the victory. Rest...
they didnt, rb on mediums was faster
Ehh I think it was so close its hard to tell(and ultimately whether either car is better is dependent on your opinion of the drivers), I think Perez made the Redbull look far worse than it is(as usual lol)
@@Eismagier and the stint on the hards was longer.
I'm not even a Verstappen fan, but he made the difference this weekend. Piastri and Norris are good drivers, but the fact is that they still have quite a bit to improve...
@@7BD273Pretty unfair assessment of the overall race & qualifying. We know its hard to overtake at imola, meaning qualifying made the difference. Max won qualifying by less than a tenth (something that all drivers agree is not a difference that is fair to measure) + had a tow. And then the RB being faster on the mediums being the first stint meant that he was able to get away at the start and ultimately means that the McLarens would have had to overtaken on, again, a difficult to overtake track for anyone. Yes max is probably ahead of most, but not nearly as much as his dominant car has made it seem, and I think it's quite obvious with equal cars, Charles/Lando/Hamilton are all ready and good enough to challenge or beat max in a championship at this very moment in time. Again Max is probably the best on the grid right now (although I'd argue Hamilton hasnt just forgotten how to be the best driver), but it's pretty simple minded to just discount every other driver
Source: outa my arsee
my guy is a fortune teller
I think title fight is still a big word for one McLaren win and another great race. Yes, I'm also excited, but this is definitly not enough at this moment.
“Title fight” LMAOOOO OOOOOK, maybe next year but absolutely not this year. Normally agree with your opinions but you definitely did this video high.
Constructors title fight? Yes. Drivers? Not convinced yet.
I think the title fight is on, but it's among constructors not drivers. If McLaren and Ferrari can team up to keep Sergio Perez in 4th, 5th, or 6th place in the driver's standings, there's a chance that Red Bull won't take their constructors trophy this year.
That's the battle I'm looking forward to, and any wins by McLaren or Ferrari this season will be welcome. Second place in the driver standings will be either Leclerc or Norris; and NOT Checo.
Feel like it's being understated that Max still did win on Sunday. Was it as dominant as before? No. But over quali and race distance he still looks the fastest guy out there and even if only by a little, that's still enough to dominate. "1-0 to the Arsenal", if you will.
He's 48 points clear man don't give us false hope
Max is ahead of Leclerc by 48 points and Lando by 60.
The greatest championship deficit ever overcome is 42, a record set by Max against Leclerc in 2022.
F1 fans have been jumping to unfounded conclusions all season long, from Sainz to Danny Ric to "Lando got within 3/4 of a second, therefore with a couple more laps, he'd win."
I know we're tired of Max dominating, and want a proper title fight. I know people want hope for their favorites.
I get that, but we need to take a collective breath and stop treating single events like concrete evidence.
I feel a title fight is better than a Verstappen dominance. We need a 2021 styled fight to the final round, minus the FIA cock up at the last minute.
I am on board with Tommo on this one. Well, maybe not WDC, but definitely race wins (and hopefully WCC). Also hearing the rumour that Chandhok spread, that Max might take a 1 year sabatical wouldn't surprise me, because in an era of new engine regulations where Red Bull will develop an engine with Ford? of all engine suppliers and an aero without Newey, rings Max leaving Red Bull. Maybe not next year. But for 26 and later definitely in my opinion.
Your videos are a breath of fresh air, always enjoy watching
I agree, it looks really promising. I would have liked if you addressed the longer-term perspective which is how Hamilton at Ferrari would change the title battle. Max in a weakened RB, or Lando/ Oscar in a decent McLaren could still end up dominating if the Ferrari pairing end up fighting within themselves in 2025. So I am not sure the dominance of the RB is lost just yet.
definitely not a title fight this year but next year for sure. but there will be a fight for p2 in both the constructor’s and driver’s championship
possible 4 way title fight next year: VER, LEC, HAM, NOR and maybe PIA aswell.
16:13 yes we had in Silverstone 2023 tommo💀
Imo Lando could I actually win the championship this year. Key word is could, chances are slim but it's actually possible this year
Lando is World Champion material. He just needs a good car.
The closest we'll get to a title fight this year will probably be the constructors championship.
maybe we got a constructors fight
BEST BACKGROUND MUSIC EVER!!!
What’s it called?
Tommo, do you think this puts added pressure on Red Bull to drop Perez? They could get away with having him when they were dominant, but now it seems they need two good fighters, especially for the WCC...and it seems Yuki is the most qualified to take his place 👀
nah, Perez was already offered a 1 year deal and rejected it with a counter, Sainz in that seat is a danger for Max, not in terms of driving but in terms of internal politics (Jos and Carlos Sr. dont get along), and putting Ricciardo or Yuki on that seat is always a risk. Checo has RB by the balls, they will give him a 1 + 1 imo.
I really hope Charles wins in Monaco. Man deserves it, and i think he has a chance. Thr Ferrari is fast in corners and Charles is a great qualifier.
I like you content man but a title fight? Maybe a constructors shake up if checo keeps going p7-p8 and mclaren or ferrari p2-p3
Red bull have been downgraded form RedBull 2023 level dominance to Mercedes 2018 level dominance, the car is still more or less the best in the field, and they have the most consistent lead driver with a clear number 2, albeit not as great a wingman as Valtteri was. Its certainly going to be a better season than 2023 but I don't see anyone matching Max's consistency.
That said, I do hope RedBull fumble for 2 or 3 races and really do give us a genuine title fight, which most certainly is a possibility.
Thanks Tommo, hope you didn't get me excited for nothing 🤞🤞
Next season could be tasty
I think the constructor championship is definitely under a fight😅
Im conflicted now, i want charles to settle his Monaco score, but that mclaren livery deserves to win Monaco as the perfect tribute to the King of the Principality
It’s a big IF - if Checo begins a roll of stinkers (like after Miami last year), and McLaren and Ferrari continue their trajectory, there might be a shout for it. But it’s definitely too early and too many factors to play to call it now
Max still really wasn’t happy with his race setup. So if he would’ve had that right the out right pace of the Red Bull and Max combo it would still be quite faster
I dont see a title fight but I do see RB finally coming under some pressure and having a "good enough" weekend wont be enough to take a dominate win. The advantage RB will have is Ferrari and McLaren will get caught up battling each other.
I think it’s still too early to say that there’s a title battle coming yet.
McLaren have been good recently, yes. But they’re still miles away from Red Bull. When/If Lando wins another race or two quickly, and/or closes to within 20 points of Max. Maybe then, it’s a battle.
Until then, it’s too early.
On top of that, I’m still yet to be fully convinced that Lando would be the right driver for the job of going to battle with Max.
Which is to say, I’d have more confidence in it being a battle if Charles or George or Lewis was in Lando’s position right now. And maybe a more seasoned/experienced Oscar too.
Can you please stop this hate boner for lando. There is never any logic to your argument.
Your entire argument is: eh im not feeling the vibe.
I think the races will be more competitive. I don't think Max will fold or lose the championship, but any mistakes will be punished by Lando and Charles.
tommo you are gonna jinx it, i just know it
Being a long suffering Ferrari fan, and a McLaren devotee, when both Carlos had his two wins and Lando finally won in the era of Max, I knew in those moments what it sounded like, when doves cry. Just mere glimmers of hope, whispers of a future free of hearing the Dutch national anthem every single race weekend. I've said it since Max started his unchallenged win streak that I'm not mad at him, don't hate him, don't know him---he and his team are doing what should be done if you want to achieve greatness, but I just want to see a fight for that top step like in Italy. I want to see the challenge. Why doesn't he get driver of the day...because not so deep down, we don't feel like he's had to fight (which is untrue, still have to stay ahead of 19 others), but it's boring, its predictable and in sport, that's the last thing that makes sport interesting.
10:52 for the most part, I agree, but I'd argue that Leclerc would have won Vegas 23 had it not been for the safety car. He was outpacing max on first stint and preserving his tires better. Just the worst timing for a safety car put him in a really awkward spot. Just goes to highlight your point of certain cars being really good on certain circuits. The Ferrari was definitely the best car that weekend
Red Bull was not struggling with the tracks but with the tyres. In both races Max was faster in the softer tyres and slower on the harder tyres.
The problem is the Red Bull upgrade effectiveness. If they couldn't find a proper setup in Imola is just a special case (they didn't test Hard Tyres), and they can find the proper setup in other tracks like Canada, Barcelona, silverstone...etc. Then I think gap between red bull and mclaren may be similar as previous GP (like China). Don't be so optimistic to say that the title fight is on.
Okay, I know that Max looks like a smaller version of Gunther from WWE, but now the two of them both having 666-day spans of dominance with title reigns is just a bit too much coincidence for me and my tinfoil hat of doom. 🤣
Both ring generals too. Max is the online Nurburgring general.
I think,hope there is something in this 🙏🏽
There is A title fight. The constructors.
The tow Verstappen got from Hulkenburg is being overrated. Yes, he got a tow into sector 1, but he was only .066 quicker in that sector than his first run in Q3. In fact, even if he had the same sector 1 time as his first lap in Q3, he still would have taken pole. The majority of his gains were in sectors 2 and 3. I'm not sure where you got the 0.14 time from (interested to know, not saying you're wrong) but the micro-sector times put out by F1 are what I'm looking at, and I'm not seeing this 10th and a half difference from the tow.
tommo i trust you and i hope charles wins this weekend
Man I had to go back and look, I totally forgot how many podiums Leclerc had in 2022. I'm just waiting to see if he can put together a whole season challenge at the front. For the past few years you could pretty much just point to Ferrari clownshow as the reason for his results. But now it seems Vasseur has really turned the team dynamics around, and the car is oh-so-close.
Must be The Devil's Work. 😂😂
1:09 gave me goosebumps! Let's gooo! After 2 boring one-sided seasons, we F1 fans finally have something to get excited about
Tommo do be dreaming, but Max has won the title this year
Is it good to be moving away from the prospect of a perfect season by Max and RB? Of course it is. But title challenge isn't this year (unless someone kidnaps Max)
It’s two things that matter: the car and the driver. No one will be better than Max right now during this Formula 1 era (saying this as a HUGE LH fan btw). But, I do think McClaren can have a better car and then maybe we’ll see something like 2021 where it’s a better car vs a better driver and that could be spicy…
Guys need to realize that this isna temporary drop off by RedBull that I suspect has to do with their upgrades that destabilized the car balance and is using up the tires, once that is resolved mayne rolling back to pre Miami they will be able to exploit the true potential of the car