It would have been more epic if his dumb ass ego got in The way. Clearly that character was gangster in the past duh that's why he was still around the gangsters. He was a fool
2pac=GOAT...Pac wrote and recorded "7 Day Theory" in 3 days. And during those 3 days, he recorded 21 songs. That's 7 songs a day...He finished "All Eyes On Me" in 2 weeks. He wrote "Hail Mary" in 30 mins. As a matter of fact, he released 3 classic albums in 1 year. And "All Eyez on Me" was a double album, which is considered two albums. So that really 4 albums in 1 year...No rapper in history has ever made classics that fast...Plus, Pac never had a Dr. Dre, Rick Rubin, Just Blaze, Kanye West, or Timberland who are argueably some of the best hip hop producers ever. Also, in 5 years, Pac created 17 years worth of material. If that's not the GOAT, i don't know what is....One more thing, at 25, Pac had 5 classic albums under his belt...Tell me how many your favorite rapper today had at 25....And name one song by these top guys today that is as deep as Tupac's "Blasphemy"....Plus, Pac have 7 of the most influential songs in Rap History when you look at "Keep Your Head Up", "Dear Mama", "Hit'em Up", "Hail Mary", "I Get Around", "Brenda's Got a Baby", and "Pour Out a Lil Liquor".....No rapper matches that résumé.... Jay, Em, and Nas are nice, but they have a long way to go before they reach Pac level.... And if we gone talk about who's the king right now, in 20 years Em put out 3 classic albums...In 20 years Jay put out 5 classic albums...In 20 years Em has two classic hip hop songs that's respected across the board, "Lose Yourself" and "Stan"....Jay has "Dead Presidents II", "Hard Knock Life", "Empire State of Mind", "DOA", "99 Problems", and "Dirt of Your Shoulders"....In 20 years Em has sold 150 million records, and by his own admission he said that he would of sold half if he was black. So that 75 million records....Jay has sold 100 million records....So when you put the facts on the table, its easy to see Jay is king today....
+getyoasshome Didn't you hear what MC Eiht said? Anyone would do that role because of Janet Jackson. Pac said the same thing. He wanted that role because I'm sure he saw that he got to do some tongue action with her.
+getyoasshome Doubt Pac took an AIDS test, he was asked to but didn't do it And of course he'd want to do the film with Janet Jackson, regardless if there was a kissing scene or not...its Janet Jackson from the famous Jackson family.
She made an appearance in both boyz n the hood and menace to society. In Boyz N the hood they were outside talking about how fine Cuba Gooding jr character was, and menace to society she was at the house party.
Lies. Pac said it himself in an interview the Hughes brothers WANTED him to be a Muslim Gangbanger - but quote "Aint No Gangbanger that is a Muslim" you take this L
Why you think Pac was some unbiased God who always tells the truth. Eiht knows more about the situation than you ever will. Take everyones word with a grain of salt.
joann dortch wasn't need yes, should it have been added? yup. Ask yourself, who did you feel bad for at the end of the movie when they got killed, Sharif, the guy going to college turned muslim or Cane, the drug dealing, robber/dead beat father? See my point?
+joann dortch it should've have been added especially since Pac was the main reason they even got the deal for the movie so the Hughes brother should've allowed him some input
To me, it was at least 3 characters in the movie 2Pac woulda fit in portraying, which were Caine, O-Dog & Sharif.. And I guess in Pac's view at that time, it was pretty unrealistic for someone who's highly religious to surround themselves around a bunch of gangbangers, drug dealers & killas.
@@kingsavage5832 But Pac was like that as well. He wasn't a gangbanger, just wanted to affiliate with them at the time because he had security. Don't get me wrong, Pac was hard but was never a real G. A lot of times he was playing a character.
The dude shot at the feds, how many gangbangers really shoot at police? They usually only shot each other. Never at the police. Capo Micheal Franzese. A mafia member of the Columbo crime family, went to medical school before dropping out. He never ever shot at the police.. Pac was gangster. He never grassed, he was shot, never wore a vest on stage ( 50 cent did lol ) went to the crip’s territory by himself after an altercation between him and them and a friend to squash the beef. He was always strapped! Even allegedly on the ambulance ride to the hospital on the night of his fatal shooting, his last words to the police where F you when they asked him did you see who shot you. How gangster do you have to be to be gangster damn.
Sharrif was just like Caine, O Dog, and A-Wax doing all kinds of crazy shit and getting into all kinds of crazy shit until he got converted to the nation of islam and became a muslim.
@@regidon793 It wasn't Pac's movie to develop, he didn't write the script. How you going to tell somebody how to rewrite their movie, if you don't like the part, just back out.
+djvIad *Remember when you had all those 2Pac acapellas you got from Makaveli Branded and you stupidly left them on your Limewire account and someone downloaded them? That guy sold them for mad money.*
"They didn't want him in the movie!" That's messed up, man. I guess the Hughes Brothers had something against 2Pac or his lack of conformity so maybe that's why they assigned him the role of Sharif rather than just deciding not to cast him or call him in for readings. Since he had such a close bond with Jada from their performing arts school days it would have been cool if the Hughes Brothers had been more open minded and been willing to cast Pac as Caine since that character was romantically involved with Jada's Ronnie character in the film. I think their onscreen chemistry would have been something else!
@@MrMajid070 .even tho it was a LA movie it was base on bay area cats. From the mustang cain was driving thats a BAY AREA thang.. EVEN old dog was base on the rapper Spice 1 from the BAY AREA down to his braids thats all thats all SPICE 1. THE guy that played Harold was a real BAY AREA huslter... ..
+Otis Willingham oh man 😖😖 imagine how fuckin epic it would be if that shit happened. Grant it, Boyz in da hood was GREAT, but with NWA in it.... Woah. Greatest movie ever
+Kash Is Green the backstory would have made it better cause shariff goal was to turn this from their ultimate fate. death in the streets and prison. its levels to this shit cuzz but we can agreee to disagree
MC Eiht gives the best and most accurate recollections about Tupac as a person....he isnt caught up in Tupac Mania and the fantasy version the media created.....i respect him for being a man and not a fan boy
Pacs music and inspiration saved lives and continues to save lives, gives purpose and hope to some people, Nothing wrong with being a fanboy if you are one of those people
@@bboykiddblack it has more to do with being delusional and weird af. Nothing wrong with being a fan of Pac, he was great, but a lot of his Stans are straight up pathetic in the way they worship the man.
I have studies screenwriting, directing, cinematography, and color theory for more than ten years so I think I can speak on this subject. As an actor Tupac, who has studied in a performing arts school, wanted to know the motivation of his character . That's what they teach actors. Maybe he was drunk or high, but his motivation for wanting to know the backstory of his character is sound.
Caine's narration in the movie was "Sharif was an ex-knucklehead-turned-Muslim..." That's all we needed to know. Leaving it up to our imagination as to why. The only one we needed details on was Caine himself because he was the lead character. Sharif was a supporting character.
Right but like he said he had just did a movie with Janet Jackson. And bishop was so huge he could "just" be Sharif. He felt bigger. I think he would have killt the role because it is how he was raised.
and no one cares about sharif almost 30 years later. I wonder why. But look at how people feel about Ricky in boyz in da hood. Just because your a secondary character doesnt mean you dont need development. Thats lazy writing
@@treondousjackson73 1. Thank you for pointing out that he played Sharif and old boy who took the ball cause I just realized that. 2. This was the 90s...wasn't no DVDs but they could've had an extended version that goes into detail about the characters that Caine narrated about.
All of you who think MC Eiht is disrespecting Tupac here need to realize that several people who worked with and are close with Pac have said similar things about Tupac being somewhat phony and someone who can flip out very easily. Tyrin Turner (Caine in Menace II Society), Jermaine Hopkins and Omar Epps(who starred in Juice with Pac) have all given first hand accounts of Pac causing problems on movie sets because he would be angry or too playful during the readings and filming. MC Eiht mentions here that the Hughes Brothers directed 3 of Pac's videos and did not want to work with him in a movie because of his behavior. Shock G from Digital Underground has also said in interviews that Pac changed when he watched himself playing Bishop in the screening for Juice. Shock G thought Pac wanted to be like the character Bishop in real life. Remember MC Eiht said in another Vlad interview that "Pac Went Backwards By Affiliating Himself With Gangs." Wanting to be like Bishop probably played a big part on why he wanted to be a gangsta. It's unfortunate because Afeni and Mutulu Shakur instilled righteous/uplifting the black community values in Pac when he was growing up, but Pac allowed the entertainment industry's money and fame to get him off that righteous path, and it eventually led to him being gunned down and killed in 1996!!
I feel it. But he was only 21-22 or whatever at that time, he was still trying to find himself. The way Tupac was, he wouldn't let nobody run over him and if he didn't like something he spoke up and said something! That's from being raised in a Black panther house hold. That Attitude turned into ThugLife.
+Me Mr. Who? GREAT point!! I'll admit to being overly critical of Tupac because he spoke out of both sides of his mouth and to me, that came across as hypocritical/2-faced. I also thought he had too much intelligence to act the way he did sometimes. I need to remind myself that he was only in his early 20's when he first became famous, and died at 25. None of us are/were a finished product in our early to mid 20's
Tupac was fake! The only people that worship him are people who were fooled by the image. Everybody who spent enough time with tupac, distance themselves from him.
The reason why Tupac rejected to play his role in Menace II Society because the directors were forcing him to play the role of a "Muslim Gangster". Even though Tupac was not Muslim he felt uncomfortable to take on the role because he believed the role was "Unrealistic" and would be "Offensive" to others. Due to his high respect for other's belief Pac put his career on the line and rejected the $ 100,000 movie role.
Fascinating how he gave a never before heard perspective on what happened with the movie. I can remember back in the day everybody thought Pac was supposed to play O-Dog. Pac was talented enough to play any roll, but I just can't picture him as Shareef.
Why do people call Pac "fake"? Lol this is why I know people are too simple minded. Pac wasnt fake, he jumped into a life that wasnt exactly what he raised to be apart of, but when he said he was "Thuglife" he embodied that. Pac wanted to relate to the crowd he wanted to reach. He attempted to turn his message from Black Panther, to a more Thugged out point of view. That aint fake. Thats some TRUE ASS shit. In the process, he made enemies due to this. Enemies he wouldve never made had he stayed on the "black power lets all unite" tip, but he knew that route wouldnt have touched everybody he wanted to. Mfs overlook that. Pac wasnt fake, he just chose to be true to the bone.
Couldn't have said it better myself. All these niggas that claiming he's fake are bunch of pathetic misinformed nerds. Only the real ones and those who were close to him know how strong of a dude tupac was.
There you go! Pac was no fake. I don’t let it bother me as a fan, because regardless he lived his music, while most just record it for the hell of it. He loved his people, and he had a passion for all he wrote, and put out. I’ll always respect, and admire him. People can talk all the hot shit they want, there will NEVER be another on his level of talent, or intellect. Period.
That's like saying there's no such thing as a Christian gangster, a Jewish gangster, a Buddhist gangster, an atheist gangster, a heterosexual gangster, a gay gangster. Just because you don't want to associate with such people, doesn't mean they don't belong to the same ethnic/social/religious group as you. So yes, if a person believes in the teachings of the quran and the pedophile prophet, they're a Muslim, like it or not.
Tupac was a passionate artist, sadly Hollywood and those who want to play that game will never understand artists like him, Marlon Brando and the other rebels in the art world
Yeah, except Marlon Brando out lived him .. he was a victim of HIS choices, period. He didnt even wear a VEST and EVERYBODY was Bad Boy as well as Death Row did at that time.
I honestly could see where Pac was coming. He would've easily been one of the more recognisable faces in that movie at that point in time. Add that a minute or two of backstory could've easily been done and would've gave some more depth to that character. Plus Pac from his own mouth said he thought, from his POV, that the role was hypocritical and wasn't a true representation of either side.
I love tupac, but if you really research, you'll find out that he was portraying a gangster image while not really being a gangster. That is what almost all of the "Real thugs" will say about tupac. Not that he wasn't a amazing person, a amazing rapper, a futuristic thinker ect ect. He was just not the gangster that he wanted everyone to believe he was, I personally don't care that much, I think his messages were spot on. And I think anyone with the ability to truly influence people should be praised, but it definitely does seem (from the words of all the thugs that hung with him back in the day) that he wasn't really a "thug". Just the hard truth. It doesn't make me like pac any less, but it's just interesting.
Tupac makes a great point about his character because I always said why is this righteous dude hanging with these low life gang banger drug dealers. Man I always said that. He is so out of place. They in there smoking weed, getting women and he coming with the holy Qur'an. Remember he said that at the last party and O'dog said she don't want to hear all that. she don't.This shows Tupac's intelligence when it came to approaching movies.
@@chandlerscaringia5260 Is it 'gay' to be aware of extremely-obvious facets of a familiar person's voice? No. Is it a sign of your failed, broken masculinity when you say everything is 'gay' when you're too stupid to understand obvious things? YES.
Chandler Scaringia You do notice you never put a question mark right? You should be correcting your grammar, before calling someone gay; Stay in school child.
The backdrop of this story is that the movie would've never been greenlighted had Tupac not been associated with the movie. The Hughes brother is on record saying the producers wanted Tupac in the movie and Tupac gave them permission to use his name to secure the funds for that movie. Tupac had more power over what role he could play and actually out of respect for his relationship with John Singleton requested to have a minor role in the movie. He has an interview talking about this and how he viewed his partnership with Singleton as akin to Scorcese and De Niro and did not want to have a major role with another director. I think upon getting his small role he felt reservations about not only the small role but the subservient image it portrayed and constantly complained and wanted tweaks to be made to the character. One of the Hughes brothers said they kept firm about not changing that character and that's when Tupac showed his frustration by showing up late and refusing to wear make up and being quiet during their rehearsals.
That's in addition to the fact that 2Pac felt the Sharif role wasn't an accurate portrayal of a young black male in a crew like that. If the Hughes brothers had tried to mediate orsimply not lead with their ego it likely would have went down different.
Tupac talks about this exact topic and he says something along the lines of " they wanted me to be more muslim who was also a gangsta and that was real to me because there's no such thing". So idk wtf this dude is talking about
@@ronnie6696he wasnt lying its common knowledge sharif hung around gangsters and drug dealers but was so called a holy muslim pac felt he was out of place and a vague character the needed more depth
Tupac was playing a character his whole career, if you people dont remember he was wearing a tutu and his younger years and was dancing with Digital Underground in the beginning of his career. That doesnt mean his music was garbage, but he got caught up in a image and ultimately payed the price for it.
Try getting robbed and shot and backstabbed and let's see if it doesn't change you. Y'all silly mf keep saying that but guess what? How many guys you know shot at the undercovers? You brainwashed punks think it's gangsta to kill ya own kind and snitch to the police. Yeah that's gangsta if gangsta means b****
Karma always comes back around if you notice both shooters are dead in the biggie and pac shootings now suge is paying his karmic dues now and puff will be the last to pay his karmic dues karma always comes around sometime you just don't know when.......
Why niggas act like they exposing Pac for something he was open about? he didn't try to hide it like Prodigy. That nigga mentioned it countless times and still shot 2 cops, where's the fake?
He didnt wanna Do it because He said there is not a such thing as a muslim gangbanber He said it himself in an Interview so what eiht is sayin is not true
+getyoasshome ..a former gang member still dressing hoodied out and still hanging with killers. Not saying that his part didnt work on some levels but come on bruh. Not once did they show him at a mosque or interacting with other nation members. I believe Tupac & Eight.. they created a character thats too unbelievable for pac to play.
Mr. Woods Cocky? Have you been in one? He was an amazing writer, and if he didn’t like the script, or the character that was being given to him, that’s his right to voice his personal opinion. 💁🏾♀️
Shooting two off duty CROOKED police officers and getting off the hook for it, Having 100s of people looking up to u wanting u to lead them in some form of revolutionary movement, and having accomplished several other things before the age of 26 I would say thats Gangster in my book unlike Ross the officer and Drake
It's not correct, them saying that Sharif was the only guy in their crew who wasn't gangsta. Neither was Stacy. And Chauncy was a wanna be, who snitched about the robbery. And Lew-Loc (Too Short). All we saw him do was hand O-Dog a gauge.
Pac or not menace to society still a classic
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Yea it actually turned out perfect the way it was. But that wasn't how pacs character was written. He didn't wanna be typecast I guess
Duh bitch
Eboney Nicole YESSSSS
It would have been more epic if his dumb ass ego got in The way. Clearly that character was gangster in the past duh that's why he was still around the gangsters. He was a fool
pac death was like the same as kain. he stomped on the dude and the dude came back blasting
Damn you are right, Pac's death is exactly like Cain's. It's crazy how cold this world can be at times.
Quinton quinton lmao I never realized that
Quinton quinton Preach!!
Mr Hyde Damn, that's right, I never noticed that.
Mr Hyde ikr
Who got some snaps on the petrol....
slangin all that shit in tha hood and yall aint got no fuccin money! Yo pump my shit!
Marq Mac Wax was my fave character, but his accent is totally different here
+Jason Moses hey homie, you need some help?
Haha! Were some ol school mutha fuccas for knowin this. Good shit!
+Jrsnwdn73 classic line
"Aye homie you need some help?" lol
Lmao! I was gonna say that!
Pow pow pow pow 😂😂😂
AmerikkasMostWanted Niggayouhate “punk ass nigga cmon niccas”
@@AnimalBlundettoK 😂😂 them niggas rushing to the car
Is that really him?
Shareef dude took Ricky's ball in boys n the hood ..that's his background to explain the menace change lol
just realised this wow
Texas Highsider right? Thats him before he went Muslim ha ha!
wow
@@ChevyboyCaprice_ yea that aspect went over ppl heads
Today I learned. Thank you Texas Highsider
this dudes beef with DJ Quik was 1,000x better than this Meek vs Drake crap
and more realistic
Yukmouth VS Everybody is better than that.
one of the best diss tracks
***** well, i like yukmouth, i wont argue that it was or wasn't better. what i will say is both are better than meek vs drake
+Flynn Ryan What is a Meek or a Drake? Are those hand tools?
The stories from 2pac will last a lifetime😊
+Shawn Steed 2pac period will last a lifetime
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2pac=GOAT...Pac wrote and recorded "7 Day Theory" in 3 days. And during those 3 days, he recorded 21 songs. That's 7 songs a day...He finished "All Eyes On Me" in 2 weeks. He wrote "Hail Mary" in 30 mins. As a matter of fact, he released 3 classic albums in 1 year. And "All Eyez on Me" was a double album, which is considered two albums. So that really 4 albums in 1 year...No rapper in history has ever made classics that fast...Plus, Pac never had a Dr. Dre, Rick Rubin, Just Blaze, Kanye West, or Timberland who are argueably some of the best hip hop producers ever. Also, in 5 years, Pac created 17 years worth of material. If that's not the GOAT, i don't know what is....One more thing, at 25, Pac had 5 classic albums under his belt...Tell me how many your favorite rapper today had at 25....And name one song by these top guys today that is as deep as Tupac's "Blasphemy"....Plus, Pac have 7 of the most influential songs in Rap History when you look at "Keep Your Head Up", "Dear Mama", "Hit'em Up", "Hail Mary", "I Get Around", "Brenda's Got a Baby", and "Pour Out a Lil Liquor".....No rapper matches that résumé....
Jay, Em, and Nas are nice, but they have a long way to go before they reach Pac level....
And if we gone talk about who's the king right now, in 20 years Em put out 3 classic albums...In 20 years Jay put out 5 classic albums...In 20 years Em has two classic hip hop songs that's respected across the board, "Lose Yourself" and "Stan"....Jay has "Dead Presidents II", "Hard Knock Life", "Empire State of Mind", "DOA", "99 Problems", and "Dirt of Your Shoulders"....In 20 years Em has sold 150 million records, and by his own admission he said that he would of sold half if he was black. So that 75 million records....Jay has sold 100 million records....So when you put the facts on the table, its easy to see Jay is king today....
+Jeff Jamaal he did have dr Dre he still the goat tho
I don't blame pac at all for wanting to have a more "hardcore role" I mean look at juice he did an amazing job playing bishop
+getyoasshome that came after juice
+getyoasshome Didn't you hear what MC Eiht said? Anyone would do that role because of Janet Jackson. Pac said the same thing. He wanted that role because I'm sure he saw that he got to do some tongue action with her.
+getyoasshome 😂😂👍
+getyoasshome Doubt Pac took an AIDS test, he was asked to but didn't do it
And of course he'd want to do the film with Janet Jackson, regardless if there was a kissing scene or not...its Janet Jackson from the famous Jackson family.
+getyoasshome he said in an interview he wanted to play various characters outside of his "gangsta" persona
he look like Booker T. the wrestler..😂😂
rzarectot7 he used to 😂😂
He played as Rider off of GTA San Andreas
HULK HOGAN, we coming for you nugga!!
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Faking mc eight got big.... lol
he forgot that the female Rapper "YO YO" was in MENACE SOCIETY also
IRON MIKE yeap at the house party
bobbe bouche yep..
rmankingchannel yo yo made a cameo in menace 2 society too
She made an appearance in both boyz n the hood and menace to society. In Boyz N the hood they were outside talking about how fine Cuba Gooding jr character was, and menace to society she was at the house party.
Erupt212007 She finishes off the drink and Doe boy gets the empty bottle 😂😂😂
Lies. Pac said it himself in an interview the Hughes brothers WANTED him to be a Muslim Gangbanger - but quote "Aint No Gangbanger that is a Muslim"
you take this L
+TayisEpic
lol exactly. But Pac is dead so a lot of guys are gonna say shit that are not true, this is known as revisionist history.
Why you think Pac was some unbiased God who always tells the truth. Eiht knows more about the situation than you ever will. Take everyones word with a grain of salt.
Shareef wasn't a gang banger tho he Was a gang banga turned Muslim
True lol. Pac didnt want to profile muslims as gangsters. (his conscious side i guess)
+YouBuckingFitch yea im sure he didn't wanna play "the voice of reason" in a gangter hood movie tho
Not going to lie about this but....2pac was right to want that part in that movie. I agree with him 100%.
+TheRadiusMD the movie was already wrote
it wasn't needed
joann dortch wasn't need yes, should it have been added? yup. Ask yourself, who did you feel bad for at the end of the movie when they got killed, Sharif, the guy going to college turned muslim or Cane, the drug dealing, robber/dead beat father? See my point?
+joann dortch it should've have been added especially since Pac was the main reason they even got the deal for the movie so the Hughes brother should've allowed him some input
MrWARBUCKS24 it worked out well
and was better any street movie at the time
+joann dortch not really Sharif character was corny and the movie wasn't all that great it was decent
M.C. Eight is the man. so honest and straight up.
Straight up Menace ✌🏾
That’s a great song i like it a lot when the credits came up for
Menace to Society i listened to the song until it finished
I fw em nice seeing the ogs
@@eldeuce9609 hes a g still love him glad he and quik made up
As big of a Pac fan as i am, I don't know if the movie will turn out as good as it did if Pac was in it. The movie just turned out so great.
100% agree
To me, it was at least 3 characters in the movie 2Pac woulda fit in portraying, which were Caine, O-Dog & Sharif.. And I guess in Pac's view at that time, it was pretty unrealistic for someone who's highly religious to surround themselves around a bunch of gangbangers, drug dealers & killas.
@@kingsavage5832 But Pac was like that as well. He wasn't a gangbanger, just wanted to affiliate with them at the time because he had security. Don't get me wrong, Pac was hard but was never a real G. A lot of times he was playing a character.
@Schoft THANK YOU! I love PAC also, but he wasn't no real g like that.
The dude shot at the feds, how many gangbangers really shoot at police? They usually only shot each other. Never at the police. Capo Micheal Franzese. A mafia member of the Columbo crime family, went to medical school before dropping out. He never ever shot at the police.. Pac was gangster. He never grassed, he was shot, never wore a vest on stage ( 50 cent did lol ) went to the crip’s territory by himself after an altercation between him and them and a friend to squash the beef. He was always strapped! Even allegedly on the ambulance ride to the hospital on the night of his fatal shooting, his last words to the police where F you when they asked him did you see who shot you. How gangster do you have to be to be gangster damn.
mc eight is way too gangsta!!! straight real one!
+Papa Gram yea yea
Papa Gram DJ quik killed him in the beef tho
richeyrich81 Quik bodied his ass though
richeyrich81 MC E-I-H-T
Eiht *
"I got shot 5 times and I'm still breath'n, living proof there's a God if you need a reason" -Tupac Amaru Shakur
A few years later he was shot dead. What's your point?
@@niteowl2397 your slow
@1- 20 - 7 LG Theres also so many Pac fans that looooooove his music and are racists. That great he was.
@1- 20 - 7 LG how's that funny? You can't disagree with someone's religious/spiritual beliefs while liking their music? Dumbass.
And some people get hit by one bullet and die. What's your point? There's no proof of any god.
We need some Spice 1 interviews
+Daron P I thought Vlad did uh Spice 1 Interview?
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***** Pac was a wannabe.
Larenz Tate was absolute savage in this move by far my favorite character
"Shereef was a ex knuckle head turned Muslim"
They kinda explained it🤔
Sharrif was just like Caine, O Dog, and A-Wax doing all kinds of crazy shit and getting into all kinds of crazy shit until he got converted to the nation of islam and became a muslim.
Shareef was ric rock in boyz in the hood 🤣🤣🤣
not really Pac was a character development
@@regidon793 It wasn't Pac's movie to develop, he didn't write the script. How you going to tell somebody how to rewrite their movie, if you don't like the part, just back out.
@@stax3511 🤣right bruh I been said that shit
"Who wouldn't do Poetic Justice with Janet Jackson" This nigga the realest
a him I thug like the rest of these rappers
Eiht is damn near 50 years old,,damn time flys like mutha.
Why sometimes vlad's interviews come off as interrogations tho.
+JeepArmy USA thought i was the only one that thought that lmao
it's a "white" thing
+JeepArmy USA in what type of interrogation do they ask u how u feel about slim jesus?
"So you entered the liquor store at 10 o'clock?"
+B Garcia the best type
I got these cheeseburgers man
+djvIad *Remember when you had all those 2Pac acapellas you got from Makaveli Branded and you stupidly left them on your Limewire account and someone downloaded them? That guy sold them for mad money.*
Pow he dead
+IhateUrFuckinFace Lmaoooooo
+John B
d d d did i stutta muthaphuka
💀💀💀💀
"They didn't want him in the movie!" That's messed up, man. I guess the Hughes Brothers had something against 2Pac or his lack of conformity so maybe that's why they assigned him the role of Sharif rather than just deciding not to cast him or call him in for readings. Since he had such a close bond with Jada from their performing arts school days it would have been cool if the Hughes Brothers had been more open minded and been willing to cast Pac as Caine since that character was romantically involved with Jada's Ronnie character in the film. I think their onscreen chemistry would have been something else!
Saafir from Oakland was a rapper in the movie too. He played Caine's cousin Harold.
+00majid00 Vlad brought up Saafir. Saafir also used to live with Pac and I think Pac was the reason he got the role in the first place.
"that's me but I'm not, celebrity stricken..."
The movie was base on bay area cat's , IF you know anything about the BAY ..you can relate...boyz in the hood is more about LA. life style.
@@niccolosanchez1649 Vlad said "Menace II Society". That was a movie about LA. Saafir was in that movie. Watch the movie sir. 👍🏿
@@MrMajid070 .even tho it was a LA movie it was base on bay area cats.
From the mustang cain was driving thats a BAY AREA thang..
EVEN old dog was base on the rapper Spice 1 from the BAY AREA
down to his braids thats all thats all SPICE 1.
THE guy that played Harold was a real BAY AREA huslter...
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Wow! so MC Ren was originally supposed to play his part.
And n.w.a was supposed to be in boyz n da hood
+Otis Willingham oh man 😖😖 imagine how fuckin epic it would be if that shit happened. Grant it, Boyz in da hood was GREAT, but with NWA in it.... Woah. Greatest movie ever
Word
Shaief Sadal Well! He was in the first one. I guess he didn't want to be in movie.
+Cameo Coney Ren would probably have a bigger carreer if he had played A Wax
2pac made sense. you supposed to give backstories to significant characters
Right!!
but who gave a fuck bout shareef tho. movie was about Caine
+Kash Is Green the backstory would have made it better cause shariff goal was to turn this from their ultimate fate. death in the streets and prison. its levels to this shit cuzz but we can agreee to disagree
+Jacc Trippa *turn them from their ultimate fate
The movie was fine da way it was. We didn't need history on shareef.
MC Eiht gives the best and most accurate recollections about Tupac as a person....he isnt caught up in Tupac Mania and the fantasy version the media created.....i respect him for being a man and not a fan boy
Pacs music and inspiration saved lives and continues to save lives, gives purpose and hope to some people, Nothing wrong with being a fanboy if you are one of those people
@@marcuslouissaint1836 quit snorting coke
@@bboykiddblack it has more to do with being delusional and weird af. Nothing wrong with being a fan of Pac, he was great, but a lot of his Stans are straight up pathetic in the way they worship the man.
Pac was mor a man that you will ever be
You jealous af nobody loves your typing a** in real life 😂
I have studies screenwriting, directing, cinematography, and color theory for more than ten years so I think I can speak on this subject. As an actor Tupac, who has studied in a performing arts school, wanted to know the motivation of his character . That's what they teach actors. Maybe he was drunk or high, but his motivation for wanting to know the backstory of his character is sound.
His "motivation" to be a gang member was not sound. Sept 13, 1996 he left this Earth.
Caine's narration in the movie was "Sharif was an ex-knucklehead-turned-Muslim..." That's all we needed to know. Leaving it up to our imagination as to why. The only one we needed details on was Caine himself because he was the lead character. Sharif was a supporting character.
Right but like he said he had just did a movie with Janet Jackson. And bishop was so huge he could "just" be Sharif. He felt bigger. I think he would have killt the role because it is how he was raised.
and no one cares about sharif almost 30 years later. I wonder why. But look at how people feel about Ricky in boyz in da hood. Just because your a secondary character doesnt mean you dont need development. Thats lazy writing
Right ! plus if u watched boyz n the hood u could actually see what sharif used to be like before choosing islam when he stole Ricky's ball as a kid.
They could've also put it in the deleted scenes of how he became muslim and wait until it came out on DVD for exclusive left out scenes.
@@treondousjackson73 1. Thank you for pointing out that he played Sharif and old boy who took the ball cause I just realized that.
2. This was the 90s...wasn't no DVDs but they could've had an extended version that goes into detail about the characters that Caine narrated about.
All of you who think MC Eiht is disrespecting Tupac here need to realize that several people who worked with and are close with Pac have said similar things about Tupac being somewhat phony and someone who can flip out very easily. Tyrin Turner (Caine in Menace II Society), Jermaine Hopkins and Omar Epps(who starred in Juice with Pac) have all given first hand accounts of Pac causing problems on movie sets because he would be angry or too playful during the readings and filming. MC Eiht mentions here that the Hughes Brothers directed 3 of Pac's videos and did not want to work with him in a movie because of his behavior.
Shock G from Digital Underground has also said in interviews that Pac changed when he watched himself playing Bishop in the screening for Juice. Shock G thought Pac wanted to be like the character Bishop in real life. Remember MC Eiht said in another Vlad interview that "Pac Went Backwards By Affiliating Himself With Gangs." Wanting to be like Bishop probably played a big part on why he wanted to be a gangsta. It's unfortunate because Afeni and Mutulu Shakur instilled righteous/uplifting the black community values in Pac when he was growing up, but Pac allowed the entertainment industry's money and fame to get him off that righteous path, and it eventually led to him being gunned down and killed in 1996!!
I feel it. But he was only 21-22 or whatever at that time, he was still trying to find himself. The way Tupac was, he wouldn't let nobody run over him and if he didn't like something he spoke up and said something! That's from being raised in a Black panther house hold. That Attitude turned into ThugLife.
+Me Mr. Who? GREAT point!! I'll admit to being overly critical of Tupac because he spoke out of both sides of his mouth and to me, that came across as hypocritical/2-faced. I also thought he had too much intelligence to act the way he did sometimes. I need to remind myself that he was only in his early 20's when he first became famous, and died at 25. None of us are/were a finished product in our early to mid 20's
seeehorn Exactly but I never thought that pac was hypocritical/2faced, Sometimes he did contradict himself tho.
Tupac was fake! The only people that worship him are people who were fooled by the image. Everybody who spent enough time with tupac, distance themselves from him.
Manolo Cepeda ?? So how was he a fake, All the outlawz remained loyal soo tf you talking bout.
Pac was right that Shareef character really had no back Story he's barely in the movie and that would have been way better.
"I'm a motherfucking genius"
Ryder lol
Bunch Of Weekend Soldiers!
Nice work CJ I thought that was a suicide mission for sure!
Sweet Johnson YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOU- oh youre Sweet sorry .. where is CJ tho
"ahh shit here we go again " Everytime i see a great san andreas meme
I coulda played an ex street thug turned muslim, but i aint i thought that was gangsta.
idk why but i read this is birdmans voice lol
pac said there is no such thing as Muslim gangbanger.
Ice Cube's Artist; Female Rapper "Yo-Yo" was also in the film too Vlad!
"Did you know Slim Jesus wrote Menace II Society?" - DJ Vlad
Bruh stop it
+Me Mr. Who? ha-ha well at least I thought it was funny, I'm cool with that :)
Lmaooo yo that was funny
lmao day made💀😂
+Thulsa Doom this is the best day of my life hahaha
The reason why Tupac rejected to play his role in Menace II Society because the directors were forcing him to play the role of a "Muslim Gangster". Even though Tupac was not Muslim he felt uncomfortable to take on the role because he believed the role was "Unrealistic" and would be "Offensive" to others. Due to his high respect for other's belief Pac put his career on the line and rejected the $ 100,000 movie role.
YoYo was also in Menace II Society
true..and a rapper called,safir was in it too.
POOPGOSPLAT That was YOYO.. you idiot! www.imdb.com/title/tt0107554/fullcredits/
+POOPGOSPLAT It was her. She was also in Boyz in the Hood for a brief moment as well. When everybody is at the BBQ.
POOPGOSPLAT T.V guide wrong too? www.tvguide.com/movies/menace-ii-society/cast/129569/ Just take your L and bow out gracefully.
yea ik he forget her
Fascinating how he gave a never before heard perspective on what happened with the movie. I can remember back in the day everybody thought Pac was supposed to play O-Dog. Pac was talented enough to play any roll, but I just can't picture him as Shareef.
Why do people call Pac "fake"? Lol this is why I know people are too simple minded. Pac wasnt fake, he jumped into a life that wasnt exactly what he raised to be apart of, but when he said he was "Thuglife" he embodied that. Pac wanted to relate to the crowd he wanted to reach. He attempted to turn his message from Black Panther, to a more Thugged out point of view. That aint fake. Thats some TRUE ASS shit. In the process, he made enemies due to this. Enemies he wouldve never made had he stayed on the "black power lets all unite" tip, but he knew that route wouldnt have touched everybody he wanted to. Mfs overlook that. Pac wasnt fake, he just chose to be true to the bone.
BOOM!
Couldn't have said it better myself. All these niggas that claiming he's fake are bunch of pathetic misinformed nerds. Only the real ones and those who were close to him know how strong of a dude tupac was.
Truly Makel 💯
There you go! Pac was no fake. I don’t let it bother me as a fan, because regardless he lived his music, while most just record it for the hell of it. He loved his people, and he had a passion for all he wrote, and put out. I’ll always respect, and admire him. People can talk all the hot shit they want, there will NEVER be another on his level of talent, or intellect. Period.
Truly Makel most of these people commenting weren't even following Pac when he was alive
Saafir was another rapper in the movie...He played Cane's cousin who had got shot in the carjacking. Check out dude music, he a really good rapper
Very unorthodox style. Dude is nice
Just like pac said, there ain’t no such thing as a ‘Muslim Gangster’
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That's like saying there's no such thing as a Christian gangster, a Jewish gangster, a Buddhist gangster, an atheist gangster, a heterosexual gangster, a gay gangster. Just because you don't want to associate with such people, doesn't mean they don't belong to the same ethnic/social/religious group as you. So yes, if a person believes in the teachings of the quran and the pedophile prophet, they're a Muslim, like it or not.
@@razalasreficul6902 yo wtf watch your mouth real talk
Get Spice 1 up here he know the real story
+Tray Davis right
he is telling his side that's it
+Tray Davis True
Just wants to spit on his legacy cause he's not around to defend himself
+Tray Davis they did interview spice once
Tupac was a passionate artist, sadly Hollywood and those who want to play that game will never understand artists like him, Marlon Brando and the other rebels in the art world
Yeah, except Marlon Brando out lived him .. he was a victim of HIS choices, period. He didnt even wear a VEST and EVERYBODY was Bad Boy as well as Death Row did at that time.
I could just imagine 2Pac yelling at them dudes on the elevator yelling "This Thug Life!" Lmao
I honestly could see where Pac was coming. He would've easily been one of the more recognisable faces in that movie at that point in time. Add that a minute or two of backstory could've easily been done and would've gave some more depth to that character. Plus Pac from his own mouth said he thought, from his POV, that the role was hypocritical and wasn't a true representation of either side.
Pac was the reason the Hughes brothers got the deal so the should've allowed him some input
Straight 💯
Wow
+MrWARBUCKS24 word
+MrWARBUCKS24 PAC Beat down hughe brothers in Oakland
I know Eiht keeping it real but it seem like he really didn't like Tupac lol
I was thinking same thing
Young Presidental No. Daylyt is my favourite battle rapper but still i don't think that he is untouchable.
+Bee Cott lol I think he was cool with Pac, he just knew he wasn't built like that, or wasn't as hard as people think.
I can tell he doesn't. He just not trying to receive any industry backlash.
he fucks with pac but he just being honest from his point of view
Well if you put boys in the Hood & Menace II Society together Shareef(the Muslim Character) was in both so You Can draw your Conclusions from that.
who was the Muslim in boyz n the hood
MrWARBUCKS24 Nah, I mean the actor that played the Muslim in Menace II Society was Gangsta in boys in the Hood.
+BlackJohnnyCage oh my nigga that had enough money to buy 100 balls shhhittt
MrWARBUCKS24 Yes sir!!
+BlackJohnnyCage So you mean stealing footballs made him turn muslim? That's deep. LOL
Pac woulda made menace even more of a classic , guaranteed 💯
Deadass
Facts
Facts
harborboi NO👎🏾🙅🏾♀️it’s perfect exactly how it is
No he wouldn’t have lol
I love tupac, but if you really research, you'll find out that he was portraying a gangster image while not really being a gangster. That is what almost all of the "Real thugs" will say about tupac. Not that he wasn't a amazing person, a amazing rapper, a futuristic thinker ect ect. He was just not the gangster that he wanted everyone to believe he was, I personally don't care that much, I think his messages were spot on. And I think anyone with the ability to truly influence people should be praised, but it definitely does seem (from the words of all the thugs that hung with him back in the day) that he wasn't really a "thug". Just the hard truth. It doesn't make me like pac any less, but it's just interesting.
he was doing it for protection
Neither was Dre, Ice Cube or Snoop Dogg......Easy e and Ren was though. :)
ramp622 so how many "real thugs" have you asked?lmao
Rzz K I'm saying that is what "real dudes" who were around with pac say about him. Not some random ugly nigga off the streets.
ramp622 like who tho?
Tupac makes a great point about his character because I always said why is this righteous dude hanging with these low life gang banger drug dealers. Man I always said that. He is so out of place. They in there smoking weed, getting women and he coming with the holy Qur'an. Remember he said that at the last party and O'dog said she don't want to hear all that. she don't.This shows Tupac's intelligence when it came to approaching movies.
"Aye show me how they drive on the east coast homie"
Wasn't safir in menace
Cousin Harold
+dslimm yup
Damn, he forgot about Saafir...shiiit!
+dslimm They mentioned Saafir on 3:45
Wanted to see if any of these yougins caught the Safir mention. #bayboy
Pretty hard to believe he was Ryder with his clugged up nose.
😂😂🤣
Thou shalt not blaspheme GTA!
Is it gay for a dude to be worried about another dudes nose. Shit sound gay to me. Out.
@@chandlerscaringia5260 Is it 'gay' to be aware of extremely-obvious facets of a familiar person's voice? No. Is it a sign of your failed, broken masculinity when you say everything is 'gay' when you're too stupid to understand obvious things? YES.
Chandler Scaringia You do notice you never put a question mark right? You should be correcting your grammar, before calling someone gay; Stay in school child.
Tupac played as a crackhead in one of his films, why would his excuse be Cos the role wasn't too 'gangster lol doesn't make sense
God bless the memory of Tupac Shakur.
The backdrop of this story is that the movie would've never been greenlighted had Tupac not been associated with the movie. The Hughes brother is on record saying the producers wanted Tupac in the movie and Tupac gave them permission to use his name to secure the funds for that movie. Tupac had more power over what role he could play and actually out of respect for his relationship with John Singleton requested to have a minor role in the movie. He has an interview talking about this and how he viewed his partnership with Singleton as akin to Scorcese and De Niro and did not want to have a major role with another director. I think upon getting his small role he felt reservations about not only the small role but the subservient image it portrayed and constantly complained and wanted tweaks to be made to the character. One of the Hughes brothers said they kept firm about not changing that character and that's when Tupac showed his frustration by showing up late and refusing to wear make up and being quiet during their rehearsals.
That's in addition to the fact that 2Pac felt the Sharif role wasn't an accurate portrayal of a young black male in a crew like that. If the Hughes brothers had tried to mediate orsimply not lead with their ego it likely would have went down different.
I love when OG TELLS these stories..he speaks so well
2pac & MC Eiht Always 🔥
mahman mc eight sounding like he's on a permanent huge blunt hit holding phase 😂👌🏼
😂😂
wtf happened to eihts G voice he had like the best gangsta voice ever
Pancho Loco He old now
AZTEK Angel yea this man retired n shit
Madvillan It could bee a dam clone dont sound like the real one og mc tone
Pac was the realest nigga.
Arnold Stalone he was a real nigga... Just not a thug. it's like Lonzo said about Ice Cube, he's a good actor.
Like Ricky Rozay in a way portraying an gangsta image of the real RICK ROSS 😅💯
I remember when pac went on yo mtv raps about this and Ed lover cover his mouth up
Tupac talks about this exact topic and he says something along the lines of " they wanted me to be more muslim who was also a gangsta and that was real to me because there's no such thing". So idk wtf this dude is talking about
Maybe pac was lying! damn y’all act like pac can’t do no wrong. Sharif was not a gangster
@@ronnie6696he wasnt lying its common knowledge sharif hung around gangsters and drug dealers but was so called a holy muslim pac felt he was out of place and a vague character the needed more depth
Tupac was playing a character his whole career, if you people dont remember he was wearing a tutu and his younger years and was dancing with Digital Underground in the beginning of his career. That doesnt mean his music was garbage, but he got caught up in a image and ultimately payed the price for it.
He also let them put him in the tub and cover his private parts up with jewelry or gold but I do remember he was in ballet just saying Thug Life
Try getting robbed and shot and backstabbed and let's see if it doesn't change you. Y'all silly mf keep saying that but guess what? How many guys you know shot at the undercovers? You brainwashed punks think it's gangsta to kill ya own kind and snitch to the police. Yeah that's gangsta if gangsta means b****
Tupac would have been a dope O Dogg
Pac should have been Caine
I like it the way it is🤷🏾♀️
Fuck outta here Tate is O Dogg. The kid from Come Fly with Me is Caine. Pac is dead. Menace is a classic.
I think pac woulda made a betta Kaine
Jae Brice nope
He forgot to mention Saafir, the young brother who got carjacked at the beginning of the movie. He’s from Oakland, Ca.
He looks younger now than what he did in Menace 2 Society!
I live for these types of stories!!!... Rest in Peace TuPac!!!!.. THE REALIST NIGGA TO EVER DO IT.
Karma always comes back around if you notice both shooters are dead in the biggie and pac shootings now suge is paying his karmic dues now and puff will be the last to pay his karmic dues karma always comes around sometime you just don't know when.......
Karma isn't real
thats true. but naa puffy too connected he aint gonna pay for pac's day death.. I hope he does tho. that bitch got the G.O.A.T MY IDOL MURDERED. .
+john doe Remember God see's everything and he knows whether diddy was involved or not.. so at the end of the day GOD ALWAYS WINS
+Victor Rodriguez you thinks God was on Denver's side this past Sunday?
I can't call it
Marak Lia he probably was
Keith Murray and 2 pac where the original savages
Tupac was rapper no gangster , gangster is al Capone Pablo Escobar etc....
@Church On Da Move I wouldn't say whoop their ass lol kill them maybe, everyone is so quick to pull a gun, afraid to take an ass beating😂
Lmao those guys were business men
Shareef's character was badly written.
Probably Pac wanted to be O-Dog..
Wait..Too $hort was in Menace? I'm gonna have to watch it again
He was lew loc
Pac refused the role because he didn't want the movie depicting a bad image of islam
athar barghouthi right that sounds about it
athar barghouthi no he wanted to be portrayed as a gangster and keep up the bishop image like MC eight said
athar barghouthi fuck islam
But that movie showed the Muslim guy "sharif" as the calm dude who hates crimes and gangs
You obviously never seen the movie
I love how everybody love PAC...when speaking of PAC, aint no shade...nothing but love...DAMN.....NOW THATS LOVE... WE LOVE PAC
"Now bare with me on this. If they did a Menace II Society in today's generation... What role do you think Slim Jesus would play?"
- DJ Vlad
IhateMEXILANA you fired 😂😂😂
IhateMEXILANA Tha guy who needed the stolen car
Tupac could have helped them, he was a great writer
2pac is corny ass ballet 💃
Mr214 clown
They forgot Yo-Yo she was in it too
wtf happen to his voice? ??
David Palmentieri Old age
Severe sinusitis
Fr tho I’m used to him with the voice of Ryder on Gta San Andreas
So he was really Ryder
Saafir - Boxcar Sessions go listen to it
The funny thing is that Pac was never a gangsta. He was in the performing arts
lol he never claimed to be one😂. What does going to a performing arts school mean? That your bitch? Lol you niggas are dumb
guwapDCFINEST Thug, gangsta, same shit stupid.
+Put 'em in da RED It's not tho and he explained that mutiple times.
Why niggas act like they exposing Pac for something he was open about? he didn't try to hide it like Prodigy.
That nigga mentioned it countless times and still shot 2 cops, where's the fake?
JaySavageTV Who said anything about exposing? Facts are facts. He played thug no different from Drake playing rapper.
*Lance "Ryder" Wilson* - from Grove Street Families ! GSF-4-Live ! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Sound like he ain't blown the whole smoke cloud out yet ahah tryna talk
He didnt wanna Do it because He said there is not a such thing as a muslim gangbanber He said it himself in an Interview so what eiht is sayin is not true
Or a former gangmember i dont remember it
+getyoasshome ..a former gang member still dressing hoodied out and still hanging with killers. Not saying that his part didnt work on some levels but come on bruh. Not once did they show him at a mosque or interacting with other nation members. I believe Tupac & Eight.. they created a character thats too unbelievable for pac to play.
+getyoasshome First of all Fvk you! Secondly i just mentioned those as examples. Thirdly.. Fvk you! Have a nice day. :)
+POETRETT hahahaha u dumb bwoy gtfo
Man, his voice is so different now. Remember when he did Ryder in San Andreas. Bad ass voice
Pac sure was cocky, for a guy who only had 2 movies under his belt.
Mr. Woods Cocky? Have you been in one? He was an amazing writer, and if he didn’t like the script, or the character that was being given to him, that’s his right to voice his personal opinion. 💁🏾♀️
when u hear a real Gangbanger talk .you can feel that shit
2pac wasn't even a real gangster just good actor...Here comes the Thugs from 90s
And you're the kid from the 2000s lol
Shooting two off duty CROOKED police officers and getting off the hook for it, Having 100s of people looking up to u wanting u to lead them in some form of revolutionary movement, and having accomplished several other things before the age of 26 I would say thats Gangster in my book unlike Ross the officer and Drake
when did he EVER claim to be a gangsta tho? Hold this L corny nigga
I bet Niggaz like you Tee Woodz think Drake is harder then Pac!!
Sebastian Greyjoy Ask yourself that again. The nigga was claiming M. O. B bloods. Do I need to keep going? So pac was a real blood??
Get Spice 1 up here he know the real story
I thought he was cute in Menace to Society lol
"He Shot My N**** In The F****** Head I Caught One In Da Shoulder If I Didn't Run I Was Dead"
-MC Eiht Straight Up Menace
Would have been even crazier if Pac was Shareef plus they showed why he became Muslim
I think Pac would of killed that role but he wasn't with it Lol
It's not correct, them saying that Sharif was the only guy in their crew who wasn't gangsta. Neither was Stacy. And Chauncy was a wanna be, who snitched about the robbery. And Lew-Loc (Too Short). All we saw him do was hand O-Dog a gauge.
Stacy wasn't thugged out but still g'd up and dont forget about lew-loc on the grill
Mr. Woods that nigga Stacy 😂😂😂
vlad tryin to practice his fake ass wedex laugh
Why does his voice sound different?
Because he's getting old and he used to smoke cigars in his early life
IMAGINE IF REN WAS WAX
"MAN, Y'ALL BOTH ACTIN LIKE SOME BITCHES!"
Salute to MC Eiht...but please just give this man a glass of water so he can continue this interview properly.