Big Texas Earthmoving Job
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- K-Tec Scrapers are active workhorses on massive earthmoving jobsites. This large 850,000 cu.yd. project in Dumas, Texas shows the versatility of K-Tec Scrapers to be pulled by Volvo, Caterpillar, & John Deere Articulated Dump Trucks.
The large capacity dirt pans ranging from 36 to 63cu.yds enabled this project to be completed within 1.5 months duration.
Consider a fleet of K-Tec Scrapers for your next massive earthmoving project by visiting ktec.com for more information. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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That's awesome! The operator doesn't seem to get bounced around all over the place either - comes home with his/her guts pretty much in the same place.
Impressive, all the Mountains have been graded out for Miles. Lol.
I like heavy equipment. The operator is a very good skill. Very good engine sound. Thank you from Japan.
the iconic purple accents 👍 I live near Rosenort and every time I see a pan I look for colors. always take pride knowing that's a MB product even though I don't build them.
That is some serious dirt moving.
1st time I ever saw trucks pulling scrapers.. Looks cool.
Like the tandem scrapers too
What a therapeutic video!!! THANK YOU😊
Le tourneys used in Australian Erina Drive in project back in the 50s..Never saw a scraper before then!
657 would run circles around those thjngs
Amazing team work !
Thats one efficient operation 👍🏼
Superb video! Music, editing, overlays, tech info and aerial photography! Just excellent. Miss the howling Detroits though... ;)
Howling Detroit's for you. This Tandem ts-14 has 3 471's th-cam.com/video/CJTg3zFFphg/w-d-xo.html
@@mattbeckmann8101 Beast! Never seen a double bottom TS! Thanks!
Nice vid 👍
The truck pulled scrapers have a smoother ride. If youre the operator you will like this at the end of ten hours!
The old pan scrapers would tear your ass up!#!
Side raising plates! Chuck a couple on each bowl and you’d be the market leader!
I like heavy equipment. The operator is a very good skill. Very good sound. Thank you from Japan.
We thank Japan for their great engineers. Celebrating the individual creativity rather than being a cog in the wheel of collectivism as so many Asian cultures have. That is why China makes nothing or very little things in mechanical engineering of their own design Japan's culture like that of USA rewards the fruits of capitalism to it's great industrial inventors rather than stealing intellectual property as their own.
Nice video 👍🤠
They would be neat with a hydraulic drive trailer wheels just for loading. (Unlocked for traveling). There are some good epicyclic hubs about in the magazines (diesel progress)
That is some serious money running there but if you going to run with the big dogs you better have the equipment to get the job done hats off to the company that owns this equipment
amazing
Imagine getting some of the big mine trucks and making a giant pan for those.
Nicely done.
Good use of the drone.
For folks not familiar with the Texas Plains look at the horizon -- this is FLAT country. I grew up near there and love to be able to see storms before they get to me!
I do miss the conventional scrappers. If this is the future of scrappers I'm glad I went to work for the Railroad.
No, it is not the future of scrapers. These things are cobbled together.
Impressive! I spent a few years turning dirt and I don't believe any of the companies I worked for moved that fast
As a proud Canadian, an earthmoving nerd in search of the true best solution for any job, and someone with a lot of experience with WTS, I am always conflicted when watching your videos. I think overall I lean towards WTS (637K push pull or 631K push loaded would be great for this job), but for long flat hauls, for operator comfort, and for the initial investment I understand the attraction of pull pans. For longevity, maneuverability, steep grades, and reduced time in the cut its hard to beat WTS. Plus I'm not dive bombing a canyon wall trying to pull as much of the mountain down with me as I can with a pan setup like you can with a WTS. Keep up the good work and maybe someday you'll start making some with motors attached :)
Thank you for continually following our channel! We encourage your company to fill out a demonstration application form to try out our efficient scrapers to compare them on your site against other earthmoving scraper machines to experience the Massive Advantage first hand: ktec.com/on-site-demo-application
Caterpillar and Case IH and new Holland and versatile tractors are the number one that construction company's use
We realize that some contractors will have their own preference in power-unit brand, so we manufacture custom hitches for all of the above brands that you have listed! For more information, please visit: ktec.com/the-solution/your-existing-power-unit/
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They look like haul trucks with the bed removed an a goose neck hitch added lol
A good idea these pieces are, if belts are not an option and they aren't for 800,000 yards. The Denver airport was a 6 million yard job and belts were used to move soil. I have seen belts
used in Levy Gravel quarries where material was moved for miles without operators.
Impressive..... most impressive...
More impressive is that they are killing the Basques etc.
We had box graders nailed in the 70’s, so what changed ? Well, machine costs and versatility. Why build a specialist twin engined unit when a dump truck chassis pushed by an agri tractor can do the same work. It is fascinating how ideas and technology go back and forth over the decades :o)
The biggest advantage i see is to be able to double duty a machine you all ready have and to cut down on cost and overhead.
Its not something new to the market but, is growing faster everyday.
Yes, the advantage is certainly there to utilize extra Trucks that may be sitting idle in a fleet for better asset utilization. It is also an easier transition to develop truck operators to become scraper operators. K-Tec is the industry pioneer of the ADT/Scraper concept, and have refined the productivity of this effective earthmoving combination since 2007, to continue this growing market year over year!
I would like to get several of those
Stupid question but if you need a second machine to push them, why would you use a scraper over an excavator and dump truck? Is due to precision in depth or something like that?
I do like the use of artic's for a power unit. At what cy and haul distance are these units best utilized?
Artics are best suited for Hard Soil Conditions, Long Distance Hauls of over 1/2 Mile, and Projects of over 250,000 cubic yards of material to be moved. For our comprehensive power-unit selection video, please watch: th-cam.com/video/pUKuGlLMw-M/w-d-xo.html
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What are they making? It looks like a long pond.
Why did they have to move it and what did they do with the dirt?
need side pannels on the scraper pans? a lot of dirt just spilling over the side at the 4.12 mark. every bump he hits after being loaded some more dirt falls off.
Operator error, he shouldnt have kept in the dirt that long. Theres probably over 60,000lb of dirt in there already, taller sidewalls would make for an overweight payload, plus make it easier to tip.
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What is the benefit over using more tradition power units when pulling the pans? To keep costs down I would think a draw bar arrangement on the back of a Volvo dump pulling a 2 wheel sulky would work well. It would also avoid the expense of taking the trailer bed off.
OR
Mount the 5th wheel arrangement in the dump bed of the Volvo. This would add some traction and again save time and expense - of course disable the dump lift and chain the bed down while using the truck in this configuration.
Am I off base?
Thanks!
Hello Bob, Here are a few considerations on why we utilize the Articulated Dump Truck Chassis Frame:
The position of our hitch enables better visibility to the scraper cutting edge, and a shorter overall unit length. It also provides for a very tight turning radius. The removal of the dump box takes approximately a day to complete, however, that enables the shedding of approximately 20,000 lbs of extra tare weight that would slow down scraper production for the operator. Please reply for further discussions or clarification.
K-Tec Earthmovers Inc. All I can say is thank you for clarification.
I do like the thought that you don't have to purchase a dedicated 2 wheel drive unit.
Your video was well made. Keep it up!
Best Regards,
Bob Ordewald
PS. No response needed..
850,000 yds. in 1.5 months. pretty good, I'd say.
I won’t get into the equipment argument. With all the stats you posted it seems the contractor can plan the job to a t? Knowing the costs associated with each pass allows the profit margin to be calculated, allowing for downtime due to breakdowns. Thanks for posting enjoyed a lot.
That's a hell of a lot of work and fuel going into that job!
Its interesting, but looks like it would get boring really quick!
Let that money stimulate your ass lol
but I get what you're saying
Hummm This is fsntastic
I bet you could move enough food with this fleet to keep Rosie o Donnel fed.
I wish I could find more info on cost vs a tradional scraper. Are these atd units dedicated units or do companies put beds back on occasionally? I guess you could just load the scraper
For the most jobsites once the contractor converts the ADT to a Scraper Hauler it remains as an efficient scraper unit. It may get switched back to Dump box if the contractor has a heavy rock project, or once the contractor decides to sell the ADT and returns it back to original configuration.
The best place to compare performance and costs of K-Tec versus Other earthmoving equipment is this Cost Analysis Tool: ktec.com/the-solution/your-cost-per-yard/cost-analysis-tool
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I have noticed that more contractors are switching to a single or double pan pulled by a big 4 wheel drive articulated farm tractor, and I see your set-up using an articulated dump power unit. Is the traditional scraper becoming a thing of the past? What exactly is the advantage of these new systems? Thanks! Cool video btw.
There are merits to both the tractor and the ADT power-units, and K-Tec provides scrapers to satisfy both of these set-ups. The answer on which power-unit type is better comes down to jobsite layout and ground conditions. Please view this video link for an informative insights on whether to choose a Tractor & Direct mount scraper, or ADT/Scraper combination for your jobsite: th-cam.com/video/pUKuGlLMw-M/w-d-xo.html
The issues I've come across when working with K-tecs are mobility issues from the longer length of the pan tractor/haul truck set ups in comparison to a 627 and a loss of traction increasing wheelspin in harder materials when self loading. But I believe the K-tecs can be very efficient and productive when used in the proper application.
Great to hear feedback from a K-Tec Operator! There is a tradeoff between having a greater capacity versus a more nimble unit. K-Tec's capacity advantage over other scraper options provides the lowest cost per cubic yard to move material leading to return on investment for the Contractor.
ceejay960 I do not like the big 8 tire John deere tractor style with scraper pans. Our biggest issues is tire, implement tire are terrible with any kind of rocky or sharp material. We have also noticed the tires tend to get hot when loaded with any longer distances. So far we haven't noticed much issues with the ADT style tractors, and it's a big plus to have tires made for hauling. If you are doing finish grade a Cat 623 paddle wheel is the way to go. But for big hauls the most cost effective ways is the ADT or Deere style tractors depending on material.
Dirtworx77 I was gonna start at tyres. Your reply is exactly correct, Respect. Two other things. Firstly, sheer volume per movement. Secondly, less jackknife and rollover problems.
moved more and quicker with old push pull terexs. but great footage
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Why the music. I tuned I for the machinery. Done in a fraction of the duration of the video. Why do you do this???
NOW THATS HOW ITS DONE..
At the beginning it said a Deere 460 was on site....what kind of fuel economy was it working at?
Fuel economy differed depending on the scraper being pulled by the 460 Truck. On Average, 19GPH with the 1237ADT Train Scrapers; 17GPH with the 1263ADT Scraper; and 15GPH With the 1237ADT single scraper.
What are they doing with this large 20 foot deep area,. Anyway to find and post a video of it's engineered use upon completion ?
Search for "manure pit" and you'll find some examples. The EPA, etc require that all waste material be kept on site and they use ponds to hold the manure, etc. until it can be spread on the fields. Yes, big expense, big problem but much better to control it at the source than try to clean up a downstream mess.
In the tandem configuration can the operator see either cutting edge ?
A depth gauge comes standard on scrapers in tandem configuration, so the operator may determine cutting depth visibility on the rear scraper from the cab.
An optional camera system may be purchased, so that the operator has clear sight on the cutting edges of both scrapers on the ADT in-cab monitor.
I work for the company shown in the video and also run various different scrapers and in terms of scraper comfort the adt is far superior and the k-tec is the most enjoyable to control but the 627K and H are my favorite scrapers
I'm a scraper operator looking for a job I run 6 23s 631-650-1657 ran most all scrapers end dumps Dozer a little bit not much but know how to run one not finish living Azle Texas whereabouts are y'all located at local 12 Union operator California move back home run scrapers here now Landscaping
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was surprised to see the haul road speed was only 25mph with using adt. i thought the point of using those vs tractors was travel speed. tractors haul at 25mph...
25 mph was the conservative average haul road speed throughout the duration of the entire project, which includes acceleration and deceleration into and out of the cut and fill zone. For the other benefits of ADT/Scraper combinations vs tractor/scrapers,please view the video: th-cam.com/video/pUKuGlLMw-M/w-d-xo.html
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I didn't quite get what this job is about.... Are they flattening the landscape for agriculture? Or digging a lake?
The contractor is pulling dirt from a borrow pit in the cut area, and is laying it out in 7 lots that appear to be the size of football fields in the video.
The pond being dug will hold the manure and run-off until it can be applied to the fields.
Are those steel shoes on the case IH push tractor?
The contractor was testing different wheel configurations for enhanced pushing traction. The Case IH in video has a steel wheels tire protection system.
i would suggest to drop the tire pressure to 10 psi and add maximum ballast so the tractor weight is at least 25000kg
like antenas to heaven
Now that’s moving dirt American style!!🇺🇸😎
Are those solid tires on the quadtrac?
They are factory tires, with an added aftermarket steel Tire Protection System installed ontop.
627 cutting the hard ground. Trucks cant work in heavy mud, hydraulics continually break and leak on the pans. Trucks comes to almost stop when unloading. Wont work a 10 hr day without refueling. Can't make a step cut or cut on a slope. Made for flat medium pack dirt.
To see the K-Tec scraper excel on your own jobsite, please apply for a free product demonstration: ktec.com/on-site-demo-application
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What is the gross weight of a loaded unit, like the one at the 5:00 mark?
Each Individual Scraper Gross Weight fully loaded in the example would be estimated at 125,000lb
What you doing? Is a reservoir?
Manure pit.
I’d pay to know how much they get paid per yard.
Are you guys a union outfit ?
Nice
Для чего они это делают ?
Big in Texas!, looks like the volvo a bit under powered? great video
Here is a video of Volvo's 60 Ton truck pulling K-Tec's largest scrapers: th-cam.com/video/ftQQ4uNauJQ/w-d-xo.html
Whats the thinking behind this ya happen me asking Seems like a lotta work for no gain
what are the tires on the case push unit
That was a demonstration of a tire protection solution: www.gkbeq.com/gkb-equipment-tire-protection.aspx
@ 2:00 what is the dozer doing behind the scraper?
The dozers & tractor are push-assisting these high-capacity scrapers, so that they load up faster for productivity, and with higher heaped capacity for efficiency.
Are those cat ejector trucks converted to scrapers?
It is a standard Articulated Dump Truck with the dump box removed, and a hitch installed for a scraper hauler conversion. For More information, visit: ktec.com/adt-hitch
What is the purpose of pushing the scraper?
Push-loading is useful when contractors already have a piece of push support-equipment on their jobsite, and wish to get faster loading cycle times, and larger heaped loads. For an efficient and affordable pusher machine, investigate the K-Tec Ox Block: ktec.com/oxblock
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first song please
Volvo seems to be using 3 Gals less fuel per hr than Cat, even pulling a double can..not surprised!
How can you see fuel consumption while watching a video?
Why do they use so much water before they do this ?
Would primarily be for safety reasons to keep the dust down on the jobsite to prevent accidents, and improve operator visibility for performance efficiency.
COOL
My explanation: Farming Sim with mods
2.5 minutes is a bit to long in the cut compared to traditional scrapers. 57s push pulling are cutting for no longer than 60s, 51s 20 to 30 tripling dirt moved. They may haul more at once but traditonal scrapers move fast cut quicker
That's 2.5 minutes in the cut zone, the average cut time for our 63 cu. yard scraper (1263 ADT) on this jobsite was 80-90 seconds as shown in the video.
You chose the best and only place for your best results. We own four and our 627gs out work these hand down. They require alot of babysitting. We are in ohio.
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K tec makes a good pan. But the trucks is not the way. If you need a push to load. That’s two driver two engines running all
I see is $$$ Fuel to get a load. Wonder what hour fuel is used Cat truck 14 gal and Case tractor 10? Wow 24 gal per hour. 10 hour day. 240 gal. Two Paid employees $18 per hour.
Wow!! Would this system move second the dirt in 10 hours?
What are bulding
Holding ponds for manure and rain run-off. Holds the liquid until they can apply it to the fields and prevents it from getting into local creeks and rivers.
Where is this??
This jobsite is located in Dumas, Texas.
Put some real scrapers on the job like cat 637 push pull.
Or a couple 657s.
Old military M290 was a 4wheel tractor pulling a scraper
So that’s been around for awhile
This is a nice system for flat lands & hard
Material being what appears Texas clay
It’s not a application that could be used
On many job sites
I imagine dump area is pretty simple
You could move more fort by putting it in a 18wheeler trailer I bet most of the fort won't fall it eaither
When conditions are right a pan is much more efficient at moving dirt than any truck
These only work in flat ground with NO and I mean NO ROCKS! Just like Miskin they have only a small place compared to a Cat Scraper. Still no competition. Been proven in Colorado.
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What is the rough cost of this machine
For the K-Tec pull scraper plus an Articulated Dump Truck power-unit, you would be able to expect a price less than cost of a new traditional motor scraper (with a lower capacity rating). Huge savings come into play when you have an existing ADT in your fleet that you can convert into a scraper hauler. For an official price quote on a K-Tec scraper, please fill out the form: ktec.com/request-a-price-quote
My blade tip feels used.
Very slow load times and cycle times.
What’s gph?
For the K-Tec/ADT Series Scrapers, expect between 12-18 GPH, depending on truck/scraper models, and ground conditions.
Gallons per hour
Must have had to run night shifts to finish that project in 1.5 months.
I ran some terex 22s that were way faster an hauled more. God bless the Detroit diesel!!
Here is an online earthmoving cost analysis tool that can help you compare K-tec scrapers with other methods of earthmoving equipment. Fuel efficiency is a great contributor to jobsite profitability: ktec.com/the-solution/your-cost-per-yard/cost-analysis-tool
@@KTecEarthmovers your fuel calculations don't seem to include the push tractors. I think that operational costs including their fuel consumption is required to figure total operating costs. Once you include that fuel cost, I'd be surprised if they beat a regular scraper. Those trucks don't have enough tractive power to self load, especially tandem pans. However, 74 cut yards at 25 mph on a longer haul isn't bad. Plus the simplicity of maintenance compared to regular scrapers with all truck chassis could be a win?
@@Braap250 Most of our scraper applications assume that the easy-loading K-Tec scraper is in a self-loading scenario. If you have specific sites that require pushloading, please email Sales@ktec.com as we do have additional calculator features to factor into operating costs of supporting earthmoving equipment.