Man halo reach was honestly the best halo game, tons of new features, balanced gameplay, besides the dmr wrecking everything, campaign was fucking amazing, as well as the story.
@@James-xr7pb the DMR itself isnt, "Bad," it's just an overly powered weapon, it is effective at every range and is incredibly accurate and fun to shoot, theres no reason not to use it except for respect for balance
People can say what they want, but this kind of quality in character development and world creation in gaming is rare. The attention to detail, even producing a realistic launch video is impressive. Anyone else think bungie ought to bring back the space flight simulator? How about a whole game in which UNSC forces and your character battle it out in zero gravity with ships like these?
I think someone that worked on Crimson Skies came in to help with Halo Reach's space combat. Play that game; it's remarkably similar to the space combat. Really good game
This entire launch sequence is a reference to the Space Shuttles used by NASA - including the camera sequences that focus on the booster rockets' separation. NASA actually used this method to monitor for any potential damages to the booster rockets or the external fuel tank (the latter of which was responsible for the tragic Challenger disaster).
Sadly it misses the gravity turn and circularization burn, although that's probably just because it's using movie logic and misunderstandings about orbits. IRL rockets pitch over fairly quickly and then proceed to spend most of the launch burning sideways to build up lateral speed. You need to go sideways crazy fast to get into orbit, otherwise you'll fall back down again
This game was such an incredible example of the cruelty of war. I’m sure that’s been said before and is lame at this point but seeing those sabers launch in this scene just makes you think, “hell yeah, we got a shot!” Just for it to come to nothing. Top 3 favorite game of all time.
@@teery203 Jun survived because he was tasked with escorting Halsey. By the end of the Human-Covenant War he retired to becoming a trainer and consultant in the Spartan IV program.
its interesting that the sabre uses the average run of the mill multi stage chemical rocket launch system despite the unsc having technology that by far surpasses that stage
Willard well let me give you an example, multi stage chemical rockets are only used once as you said, that means the unsc need to replace the system every single time, in the long run that would end up costing the unsc more money, if they were to use antimatter system instead of the multi stage chemical system they could do launch after launch without the need to replace the system
***** that may be true, but you should also take into account that the Sabre was still in the experimental stages during the Fall of Reach, and that the broadsword fighters in Halo 4 were the successors of the Sabre, with it having a newer and efficient system than the Sabre. But even then, it was still an experiment so they could have changed anything during that time. But you still make a good point. I just thought I should've pointed out those facts.
***** I doubt that they wouldve had the time or the technology to develop such a system, since humanity was really losing the war even before the fall of Reach. And after the loss of Reach, many experimental facilities were relocated back to the remaining inner colonies and earth.
The way these cutscenes play really makes it seem like we're watching old recordings from the fall of reach and all the tragedy recorded through the lens of every device active as the events unfold.
It actually doesn't. But you do have a point, it's still better than just *poof* spacecraft into stable orbit. It's just that, there's still a few more steps to cover. By only taking into account what is shown in the cutscene, the ship right now should be on a sub-orbital path, basically it has escaped the atmosphere but at this stage it will be pulled back down. You'd need a scene with a prograde burn (to reach a stable orbit) then a trajectory alignment (to arrive at the station).
not going to lie I got choked up. Space travel is something that all have a belief in or against. Working for USN, our chiefs and officers would highlight a launch or recovery by having us watch whoever was reporting, sometimes even having the Air Force or NASA give us a play by play... when the shuttle program was still good. There's a lot of politics in the 21st century for space programs, Lord help us in the 26th century if we're trying to make science fiction, science fact
First The Sabre needs an engine space capable and probably high pressure stuff not mention the energy shield field that's even advanced was for early UNSC Years
The lack of dialogue and amazing sound design in an almost 2 minute cutscene made these cutscenes so amazing. The powerful use of timing, atmosphere and feel of Reach's cutscenes are so rare today.
I truly love this scene in halo. I also know a lot of people are asking why the Sabres have rocket boosters instead of the drives of other ships. Bear in mind most small human ships in the UNSC by this point in the history of halo; lack jump drives. This means that they need to piggyback another ship or board a carrier to jump. The power source needed to power a jump drive is huge; in the art book the drive powering the smaller frigates is at least the size of a small apartment complex. This means that humans have yet to perfect ground space launches like those of craft you see in Halo Wars. It's not until Halo 2 that these launches are improved; but it's not until well after the first halo event they are perfected. Plus in Halo Wars the Spirit of Fire can provide support from stratosphere altitudes; which allows small craft to easily return to the ship without launch systems for orbital trajectory. Halo 4 and 5 basically show what humanity could have had in reach if ONI wasn't a bunch of secrets keeping A**holes. Halo Wars summed up to me how stupid ONI was in one phrase "Their shields are vulnerable to highly concentrated plasma weapons" -Professor Anders (aka an ONI research officer) Which basically sums up ONI wasted millions upon millions of human lives because they wouldn't build plasma guns of their own; which they are very capable of
ONI keeping secrets is kind of an necessary evil tho, cuz they have knowlege of some things that would make everyone crazy such as the truth about the humans and forerunners, the Flood/Precursors and Spartan-II program. If it wasn't for the spartans they wouldn't win the war and if it wasn't for the knowlege about the forerunners they wouldn't know much about the ark, the halo rings and whatnot. If they let out those info they might've make everyone want to shut them down which would make them not know about really important things in the first place
@@brwigames7498 I can understand keeping necessary secrets; I really do. But we arent talking about the forerunners and the flood. Those can stay secret until needed; the UNSC was fighting the covenant then and there and the Covenant was destroying man. Until the Spartans (who bear in mind in fall of reach were originally meant to fight other humans) showed up and made a difference; the best hope humans had of stopping the covenant was to barrage covenant ships with archer missiles until the shields went down and then hit them with MAC cannon rounds until they stopped moving; and MAC cannons didn't reload quickly, they took at least 15 to 30 seconds to fully charge and reload. This mean human ships that had no protection against covenant weapons were vulnerable to attack until the shields dropped and MAC rounds could be fired. This means the covenant ships were untouchable until shields dropped and any mistimed MAC firing would doom several ships. If ONI had divulged the covenant weaknesses the UNSC navy would have had a chance of stopping the covenant from launching the ground war campaigns that bring human colonies to their knees and killed millions. That secret alone is not worth keeping because it literally nearly brought humanity to death. Spartans or not; the only good Spartans can do is win the ground war, the UNSC navy is the only thing standing between the vulnerable human ground forces and the covenant space fleets. Reach; the most heavily defended human planet before earth; was infiltrated, destroyed and wiped out without a fair fight; and ONI didn't do a thing to slow their advance while the covenant were inside their base. Yes keep secrets about the forerunners and flood; I get that, but the very least tell people about the covenant so they can win or at least stand a fair chance.
Yeah I always feel that after the war, realistically speaking, ONI would get shut down and rebuilt with a much better focus and less secret keeping because that nearly killed humanity. Can’t take that chance again, EVER!
This and the video at the end of Solace/beginning of Exodus (with Jorge's death and 6 limping off into the mountains) are some of the greatest Halo cutscenes ever...
I just realized that the small boosters have no nozzle. They're literally just paperweights or maybe geometrically inefficient fuel tanks for what are clearly solid rocket motors. Same goes for whatever the hell the thing on its back is. Also the side booster nozzles are angled for no reason... I'm not salty, it's just that people will complain that this is the only time you ever see staging used in Halo, but the only thing they did right was have staging at all.
Honestly this is one of my favorite cutscenes in Halo Reach’s campaign. And funny enough my book, which takes place in 2074 and features a spaceplane called the AeroDyne Astral. Basically a sleeker, passenger fairing version of the space shuttle. And even launches in kinda the same way. Using three large booster that attach to the back and bottom of the craft. And remotely pilot themselves back to earth after use, kinda like how spacex does it. And I’m sure how the UNSC does as well
Q: Why have a expendable staged launch system in a technological age of faster than light travel? A: Because it looks awesome in a cut-scene, and the eerie similarity to a space shuttle launch of the early 2000s was deliberately designed to connect the distant future of the world of Halo to the player's own present.
actually it’s because its still in Developing mode. investing anti gravity engines on sabers is costly especially since they haven’t fully developed as they wanted since the covenant already came. each planet had different gravitational pull and also reach is 2x bigger than earth so maybe it takes too long to fly if they hover
Four separation events for one stage...Not sure that's how that'd happen IRL, too much mechanical complexity. Also, if I were to design something like that in Kerbal Space Program, the first stage would partly run on either ramjets or SABRE engines.
343, Y U NO gravity turn?! XD But seriously, I understand that planet reach is slightly smaller than Earth, so A two stage to orbit would be very practical, but, it is hugely inefficient to go straight up, then tilt over to the horizon at apoapsis. I know I'm just nitpicking here, but, why would 343 overlook this little detail if they would go through all the trouble of making everything else in the game so realistic?
De Wijswolf Just because technology has advanced doesn't mean gravity is any different from what it is now. Now I'd like to make a *really bad, probably* animation of what it should look like in Blender...
Jason Glantz Orbital mechanics. They aren't "floating". Satellites stay up because they are actually constantly falling, but they are moving sideways so fast that they "miss" the Earth. Basically, for a satellite in a 200km orbit, it travels about 8 km/s sideways, and still only experiences slightly less than 9.5 m/s/s of gravity. By the time it falls, say, 30m, it has moved sideways far enough for the Earth to have curved away from it by 30m.
Reach's use of in-world cameras is masterful, I wish more stuff did that.
Odst did the same.
The directing in this scene is just amazing
Man halo reach was honestly the best halo game, tons of new features, balanced gameplay, besides the dmr wrecking everything, campaign was fucking amazing, as well as the story.
Agreed, Reach was epic indeed.
Why was the DMR bad?
@@James-xr7pb you were probably bad at the DMR LMAO
@@KagedTyrant Nope.
@@James-xr7pb the DMR itself isnt, "Bad," it's just an overly powered weapon, it is effective at every range and is incredibly accurate and fun to shoot, theres no reason not to use it except for respect for balance
Low-key one of, if not the best cutscenes in all of Halo
Super agree man it's my favourite for sure
This and the descent on The Ark are my favourite.
@@leandroingrassia nothing tops the Ark descent.
People can say what they want, but this kind of quality in character development and world creation in gaming is rare. The attention to detail, even producing a realistic launch video is impressive. Anyone else think bungie ought to bring back the space flight simulator? How about a whole game in which UNSC forces and your character battle it out in zero gravity with ships like these?
Yes.
I was gonna roast you for assuming that bungie was still running halo but i saw the age of this comment and now im sad
@@Bazzable Pain
Halo with an Ace Combat mode to it would be amazing. Imagine fighting in a Longsword during the opening sequence of Halo 2.
I think someone that worked on Crimson Skies came in to help with Halo Reach's space combat. Play that game; it's remarkably similar to the space combat. Really good game
This entire launch sequence is a reference to the Space Shuttles used by NASA - including the camera sequences that focus on the booster rockets' separation. NASA actually used this method to monitor for any potential damages to the booster rockets or the external fuel tank (the latter of which was responsible for the tragic Challenger disaster).
Sadly it misses the gravity turn and circularization burn, although that's probably just because it's using movie logic and misunderstandings about orbits.
IRL rockets pitch over fairly quickly and then proceed to spend most of the launch burning sideways to build up lateral speed. You need to go sideways crazy fast to get into orbit, otherwise you'll fall back down again
@@ENCHANTMEN_ ^ this guy played KSP
This game was such an incredible example of the cruelty of war. I’m sure that’s been said before and is lame at this point but seeing those sabers launch in this scene just makes you think, “hell yeah, we got a shot!” Just for it to come to nothing. Top 3 favorite game of all time.
Literally ALL the Spartans die in this one. Though, some say Jun in in Halo 4, somehow.
@@teery203 Jun survived because he was tasked with escorting Halsey. By the end of the Human-Covenant War he retired to becoming a trainer and consultant in the Spartan IV program.
even if this cutscene was skippable, why would you? its the best scene of the entire game
Best scene is when the pillar of autumn leaves reach also I like the one when jorge sacrifice himself for noble 6
Tip of the spear tho, that one rocks.
Why would anyone skip any of the cutscenes in this game?
its interesting that the sabre uses the average run of the mill multi stage chemical rocket launch system despite the unsc having technology that by far surpasses that stage
Well it makes since as they are cheep and burn up in reentry why use something that cost more to achieve the same thing but is only used once.
Willard well let me give you an example, multi stage chemical rockets are only used once as you said, that means the unsc need to replace the system every single time, in the long run that would end up costing the unsc more money, if they were to use antimatter system instead of the multi stage chemical system they could do launch after launch without the need to replace the system
***** that may be true, but you should also take into account that the Sabre was still in the experimental stages during the Fall of Reach, and that the broadsword fighters in Halo 4 were the successors of the Sabre, with it having a newer and efficient system than the Sabre. But even then, it was still an experiment so they could have changed anything during that time.
But you still make a good point. I just thought I should've pointed out those facts.
haloftw9000 fair enough perhaps they didnt feel like spending the money for an antimatter system right away on an experimental starfighter
***** I doubt that they wouldve had the time or the technology to develop such a system, since humanity was really losing the war even before the fall of Reach. And after the loss of Reach, many experimental facilities were relocated back to the remaining inner colonies and earth.
I'm here after the Space X launch
same
Watching this scene kind of makes your armor feels more badass in a way.
The way these cutscenes play really makes it seem like we're watching old recordings from the fall of reach and all the tragedy recorded through the lens of every device active as the events unfold.
This cutscene shows just how hard it is to actually get into orbit realistically. Too often this franchise seems to take that for granted.
It actually doesn't. But you do have a point, it's still better than just *poof* spacecraft into stable orbit. It's just that, there's still a few more steps to cover. By only taking into account what is shown in the cutscene, the ship right now should be on a sub-orbital path, basically it has escaped the atmosphere but at this stage it will be pulled back down. You'd need a scene with a prograde burn (to reach a stable orbit) then a trajectory alignment (to arrive at the station).
Humanity is space faring in this universe they even have space elevators, so yeah getting into orbit is something they can afford to take for granted.
not going to lie I got choked up. Space travel is something that all have a belief in or against. Working for USN, our chiefs and officers would highlight a launch or recovery by having us watch whoever was reporting, sometimes even having the Air Force or NASA give us a play by play... when the shuttle program was still good. There's a lot of politics in the 21st century for space programs, Lord help us in the 26th century if we're trying to make science fiction, science fact
UNSC here exactly we only wish these things become real
First The Sabre needs an engine space capable and probably high pressure stuff not mention the energy shield field that's even advanced was for early UNSC Years
@@AntzolY111 you have to wonder about the next space shuttle program that brewing right now. It'll be cool to watch present day.
@@tolvaer UNSC Here you employed at The program Please CONTACT Nearest UNSC station from you.
@@unitednationsspacecommand6502
If a New World Order is established after a nuclear war, sure it might happen.
God fucking Damn is Halo Reach a work of art.
i can't believe that i am still getting goosebumps every time i watch this cutscene! xD
The lack of dialogue and amazing sound design in an almost 2 minute cutscene made these cutscenes so amazing. The powerful use of timing, atmosphere and feel of Reach's cutscenes are so rare today.
I truly love this scene in halo.
I also know a lot of people are asking why the Sabres have rocket boosters instead of the drives of other ships.
Bear in mind most small human ships in the UNSC by this point in the history of halo; lack jump drives. This means that they need to piggyback another ship or board a carrier to jump. The power source needed to power a jump drive is huge; in the art book the drive powering the smaller frigates is at least the size of a small apartment complex. This means that humans have yet to perfect ground space launches like those of craft you see in Halo Wars. It's not until Halo 2 that these launches are improved; but it's not until well after the first halo event they are perfected.
Plus in Halo Wars the Spirit of Fire can provide support from stratosphere altitudes; which allows small craft to easily return to the ship without launch systems for orbital trajectory.
Halo 4 and 5 basically show what humanity could have had in reach if ONI wasn't a bunch of secrets keeping A**holes. Halo Wars summed up to me how stupid ONI was in one phrase
"Their shields are vulnerable to highly concentrated plasma weapons" -Professor Anders (aka an ONI research officer)
Which basically sums up ONI wasted millions upon millions of human lives because they wouldn't build plasma guns of their own; which they are very capable of
ONI keeping secrets is kind of an necessary evil tho, cuz they have knowlege of some things that would make everyone crazy such as the truth about the humans and forerunners, the Flood/Precursors and Spartan-II program. If it wasn't for the spartans they wouldn't win the war and if it wasn't for the knowlege about the forerunners they wouldn't know much about the ark, the halo rings and whatnot. If they let out those info they might've make everyone want to shut them down which would make them not know about really important things in the first place
@@brwigames7498 I can understand keeping necessary secrets; I really do. But we arent talking about the forerunners and the flood. Those can stay secret until needed; the UNSC was fighting the covenant then and there and the Covenant was destroying man.
Until the Spartans (who bear in mind in fall of reach were originally meant to fight other humans) showed up and made a difference; the best hope humans had of stopping the covenant was to barrage covenant ships with archer missiles until the shields went down and then hit them with MAC cannon rounds until they stopped moving; and MAC cannons didn't reload quickly, they took at least 15 to 30 seconds to fully charge and reload.
This mean human ships that had no protection against covenant weapons were vulnerable to attack until the shields dropped and MAC rounds could be fired. This means the covenant ships were untouchable until shields dropped and any mistimed MAC firing would doom several ships.
If ONI had divulged the covenant weaknesses the UNSC navy would have had a chance of stopping the covenant from launching the ground war campaigns that bring human colonies to their knees and killed millions.
That secret alone is not worth keeping because it literally nearly brought humanity to death. Spartans or not; the only good Spartans can do is win the ground war, the UNSC navy is the only thing standing between the vulnerable human ground forces and the covenant space fleets. Reach; the most heavily defended human planet before earth; was infiltrated, destroyed and wiped out without a fair fight; and ONI didn't do a thing to slow their advance while the covenant were inside their base.
Yes keep secrets about the forerunners and flood; I get that, but the very least tell people about the covenant so they can win or at least stand a fair chance.
Yeah I always feel that after the war, realistically speaking, ONI would get shut down and rebuilt with a much better focus and less secret keeping because that nearly killed humanity. Can’t take that chance again, EVER!
This and the video at the end of Solace/beginning of Exodus (with Jorge's death and 6 limping off into the mountains) are some of the greatest Halo cutscenes ever...
A lot of content in Reach is some of the best Halo has to offer. Feelings of loneliness can really work wonders.
0:24 Played this game for years and never once noticed that dead marine at the control panel
First Floor: Aliens, Beaches, Secret Launch Facilities.
Halo Reach.
Aka, prepare to feel lonely.
1:13 - Just that alone makes this even more satisfying
I shit you not, Reach's cinematography rivals some Oscar winning productions
Finally someone else also thinks about it.
I just realized that the small boosters have no nozzle. They're literally just paperweights or maybe geometrically inefficient fuel tanks for what are clearly solid rocket motors. Same goes for whatever the hell the thing on its back is. Also the side booster nozzles are angled for no reason... I'm not salty, it's just that people will complain that this is the only time you ever see staging used in Halo, but the only thing they did right was have staging at all.
Bruh it’s a game
@@brettorton2363 Just my observations
This cut scene is incredible, I was in awe when I first saw it.
The only interesting campaign with perfect character development and depressing soundtracks. The videography and cinematics were perfectly executed
Lightyear Would Take The Perfect Inspiration From This.
Honestly this is one of my favorite cutscenes in Halo Reach’s campaign. And funny enough my book, which takes place in 2074 and features a spaceplane called the AeroDyne Astral. Basically a sleeker, passenger fairing version of the space shuttle. And even launches in kinda the same way. Using three large booster that attach to the back and bottom of the craft. And remotely pilot themselves back to earth after use, kinda like how spacex does it. And I’m sure how the UNSC does as well
Halo reach is one of my favorite video game ever like halo 3
Remains me of a Space Shuttle launch, only exponentally more badass.
Light year trailer used this basically
Bungie: You like Halo Reach?
Disney: I love Halo Reach, why do you ask?
Bungie: *Looks at Lightyear trailer*
No reason, just asking
yesssss!
I immediately think of this scene when I saw the Lightyear trailer! Glad somebody else noticed too.
This isn't the Buzz lightyear trailer!
Imagine Watching This After The New Pixar Movie Lightyear
Love the cutscenes in the old halos, art to me.
Cant believe they never used the Saber again, probably my favourite fighter design
Q: Why have a expendable staged launch system in a technological age of faster than light travel?
A: Because it looks awesome in a cut-scene, and the eerie similarity to a space shuttle launch of the early 2000s was deliberately designed to connect the distant future of the world of Halo to the player's own present.
actually it’s because its still in Developing mode. investing anti gravity engines on sabers is costly especially since they haven’t fully developed as they wanted since the covenant already came.
each planet had different gravitational pull and also reach is 2x bigger than earth so maybe it takes too long to fly if they hover
one of the best cutscenes in games history
SpaceX
Or better yet a Halo Universe RTS built similar to Sins of a Solar Empire or Empire at War
EmperorTyler24 look up sins of the prophet and come back when you finish nerdgasaming it's awesome
@@devinmartinez3854 wish my pc wasn't shit so i could play ir
Does Reach not have Space Elevators or is there a reason that they don't launch fighters from Space Elevators?
Halo reach was awesome loved it.
Pasa el tiempo y me estremece este lanzamiento ❤
cool future spce shuttle
Play along with "Spirit In The Sky".....
Nice vehicle.
So a Pelican can breach a planet's atmosphere on its own thrusters yet a fighter needs separate boosters? Who's the brains behind this logic?
Richard Lew The sabre program was classified this was the first time they were being fielded in the human covenant war.. This was a launh site.
I doubt a Pelican could reach orbit in such a short time as the Sabre did. It was an emergency.
The sabre was an instant launchable Starfighter it would take the pelican a long time for it to take off and reach outer space with planetary gravity.
Hey man, they did a gravity turn and all, they needed to get into orbit faster than I can bust a nut.
Ive never seen a Pelican leave the atmosphere by itself
@kineticdeath Indeed it is =)
Looks eerily similar to the new Lightyear trailer
Four separation events for one stage...Not sure that's how that'd happen IRL, too much mechanical complexity. Also, if I were to design something like that in Kerbal Space Program, the first stage would partly run on either ramjets or SABRE engines.
Does Reach not have space elevator or did the Covenant take them all out, leaving the humans to resort to rocket boosters for their launches?
@comanchio1976 you mean missing the letter 'i' in "exponentially"?
So a pelican csn breaching an atmosphere on its own thrusters but this obviously more powerful fighter requires boosters?
Pelican is a VTOL, and this is not like a longsword or shortsword fighter.
It's specifically designed for Space superiority, so it's regular thrusters are likely not made for in-atmosphere without the boosters.
they will I think. they already started workin on destiny
I would kill to do this
Sorry I thought this was infinite warfare .w.
Seriously
WTF. I mean, there is a lot of controversy that COD stole from Halo, but still.
343, Y U NO gravity turn?! XD
But seriously, I understand that planet reach is slightly smaller than Earth, so A two stage to orbit would be very practical, but, it is hugely inefficient to go straight up, then tilt over to the horizon at apoapsis. I know I'm just nitpicking here, but, why would 343 overlook this little detail if they would go through all the trouble of making everything else in the game so realistic?
343 didn't make Halo: Reach, Bungie did.
SinDawg030 In that case... BUNGIE...Y U NO GRAVITY TURN
De Wijswolf Just because technology has advanced doesn't mean gravity is any different from what it is now. Now I'd like to make a *really bad, probably* animation of what it should look like in Blender...
Jason Glantz b-but physics! but physics!!
Jason Glantz Orbital mechanics. They aren't "floating". Satellites stay up because they are actually constantly falling, but they are moving sideways so fast that they "miss" the Earth. Basically, for a satellite in a 200km orbit, it travels about 8 km/s sideways, and still only experiences slightly less than 9.5 m/s/s of gravity. By the time it falls, say, 30m, it has moved sideways far enough for the Earth to have curved away from it by 30m.
@helljumpr5150 What you wrote reminds me of a sentence, only spelled badly and with the wrong words.
@helljumpr5150 ...and using the word 'remains' instead of 'reminds'.
Scenery porn!
It's a fictional game in a fictional universe.
Play along with "Spirit In The Sky".....