You lucky Thunder fans… Lol alright y’all let me know what you think of OKC going into this year! Side note… am I the only one that thinks they need to clean up their branding? Low key bad uniforms and logo IMO. Gotta be something better out there.
as a raptors fan i watched your raptors preview yesterday, and have been slowly watching a bunch more. Love your vids! the spreadsheet is nice, your voice is very balanced your clearly not bringing in personal feelings about players in, and your knowledge seems to be super deep. I'm fairly new to basketball (7 years since i started watching again) but I love to engage with nerdy content and learn more about the game! so excited for this season! would love to come join the discord! GOOD PREVIEWS!
@@Ninjoel Well shoot I really appreciate that! I certainly try to keep things void of emotion and try to keep it as informative as possible. Hope to see you around the discord, link as always in the description! Got a good group there.
Big Thunder guy here. Honestly love your idea on Joe starting. Everyone is saying IHart or Caruso but Joe might be the best fit like you are saying. It’ll be really interesting what Mark will do but I’m excited as ever to see what this team does this year
@@jackswanson8236 You lucky Thunder fan lol. I’m very envious. Yeah it’s interesting that the lineup data is so transparent about Joe being the key piece. I wonder if we see it in action.
@@_AVC_You’ll see Joe along side SGA a lot, but it will be more when SGA is running the 2nd unit. Having Caruso in there to start is the perfect fit. Can close with any combo of the Big 3 and literally anyone else in the top 9.
@@devxplayerdevelopment I suppose that’s the hope! I don’t know if he’ll have the same gravity that we know Joe has but Caruso does just tend to play winning basketball so it probably doesn’t matter too much.
@@Aussie_OKC_fan Aye I appreciate you! Use the link below to jump on the discord and then shoot me a DM to get the spreadsheet! See you there! discord.gg/cmByHNGd54
Great vid! 1. I am very high on Topic, he can be the “Maestro” of the second unit, and play next to the starters. 2. Loved the “lineup utilization” part. I think OKC will have the ability to be the most versatile team in the NBA. They will be able to play against every team - run 2 bigs (like Minnesota), run Chet at the 5, run so many defenders, it’s unfair. They are thinking about the playoffs… The most amazing thing is that they are so young. With only players on the roster, in 5 years they can have: PG: SGA/Topic SG:Wallace (a Kentucky guard so I am high on him)/Joe SF: Dort/Wiggins PF: J Dub/Dieng C: Chet/Williams That’s without Caruso and Hartenshtein, no draft picks, no trades… that’s amazing! How to draft well, develop young players and build a team 101
@@LiamEdelshtein Yeah this team is just playing this game the right way. Emphasizing a good culture and internal development is a sure fire way of doing it. They seem to have figured out the unlimited draft picks glitch as well haha!
The perfect example is Chet - was hurt during his “first season” and look how perfectly he fits in… That’s a sign of the system and the team around him… That’s why I am high on Topic.
@@LiamEdelshtein Yeah I hope he gets a good chance to build some confidence and get stronger! They don’t seem to miss on picks very often so I’m inclined to think something good will come from it.
Hey AVC, Jae Crowder is working out with the kings, hopefully he can rediscover some form with them I still think Oladipo can be a good pickup as 8th or 9th option on a contending team
I love the idea of Joe in the starting lineup but I think we put too much of emphasis on being a starter but it may just be a matter of which particular lineup is able to give us more of what we need at that point, which generally could be to come out strong offensively at the jump. Similar to how Hartenstein would be favoured to be in the starting lineup in a matchup against the Nuggets and Jokic. Outside of the core 3, I think everyone else is matchup dependent.
@@chinhong4578 I actually totally agree with your statement about the emphasis of a starter. It really shouldn’t matter that much. I will say though, in my time as a coach players definitely care about it haha. Players also value consistency in that stuff so it can be tough to balance. But I do agree it should be a more dependent variable for them.
@@_AVC_more often than not, the starting five are the best five players on the team. But for this Thunder team it is a luxury not to have a significant drop off from the 5th to 6th player
@@chinhong4578 Oh yeah 100%. They have legit 7 starters on the team. Even after that there is some quality as well. It’s a great position for them and I’m so curious to see what they roll out there.
Hi thanks for the analasys. OKC's stars will have team friendly cintracts for 3 years . That's why Presty gave Hartenstein 87 mln for 3 seasons. But he can't shoot. And OKC throw threes. So a lot will depend on Holmgren's progress. On the otherr hand, they have undersized 1st unit. So... what about a trade of Dort+ pick/s for Jaden Mcdaniels. It will save Minnesota some taxes. But i doubt if they avree to strengthen the rivals
@@arkadypolonsky2355 That’s a really interesting thought. Yeah I don’t think they do that move at least but I doubt McDaniels is untouchable. They are definitely still trying to figure out how he works on the team.
No suprises here, the thunder as the 1 seed. Very deep and very versatile team. Have all the assets in the world to do whatever they think positions them best now and for the future. The thunder are just such a well ran organization
I'm guessing they'll address their Wing problems in the next draft which is LOADED with talented wings. Esp with the thunder having like the clippers pick which could be sooo useful and if the clippers really do stink and not even make the playoffs... that could help this thunder team land HIGHER in the draft and maybe have a shot at someone like Ace Bailey, Hugo Gonzalez, or Drake Powell which are all TALENTED WINGS that if the thunder can land? I'll prolly stick with the picks instead of trading them away just to get a DFS or Kuzma who tbh aren't really intriguing.
@@_AVC_ Honestly with how the CBA is rn I don't blame the thunder for not trading any 1st round picks ESP for getting Caruso which is still a huge steal
@@HenryBarlowe Welll IDK if I'd go as far as to say that the thunder can Land Copper Flagg like I think the HIGHEST I can see them? If you factor in with how bad the clippers could be... I'd say they could land at least top 5. But honestly anything can happen.. The HAWKS out off all the teams landed top 1 and no one expected that Lol The thunder will have to get REALLL LUCKY to land top 1 and get Copper Flagg. It'll be hilarious if the thunder do get Flagg LOL
Okc should be the favorite in the west , considering denver has regressed, dallas lost their best defender , caruso is a better than giddy and hartenstein gives them more flexibility on matchups depending on the team, j dub and chet should be better along w cason so yea they should be the favorites in the west
@@fluffyninja28 Yeah I agree with like 90% of what you said there, but anyway yeah they should be the favorite. Like you said, the versatility they have is unmatched at this point. They can really combat anything you could throw at them.
You lucky Thunder fans… Lol alright y’all let me know what you think of OKC going into this year!
Side note… am I the only one that thinks they need to clean up their branding? Low key bad uniforms and logo IMO. Gotta be something better out there.
A lot of us OKC fans hate our branding. I’m one of the few that likes it how it is. Those charcoal jerseys should stay though.
@@devxplayerdevelopment Okay fair, the charcoal jerseys are tough as hell.
as a raptors fan i watched your raptors preview yesterday, and have been slowly watching a bunch more. Love your vids! the spreadsheet is nice, your voice is very balanced your clearly not bringing in personal feelings about players in, and your knowledge seems to be super deep. I'm fairly new to basketball (7 years since i started watching again) but I love to engage with nerdy content and learn more about the game! so excited for this season! would love to come join the discord! GOOD PREVIEWS!
@@Ninjoel Well shoot I really appreciate that! I certainly try to keep things void of emotion and try to keep it as informative as possible. Hope to see you around the discord, link as always in the description! Got a good group there.
Big Thunder guy here. Honestly love your idea on Joe starting. Everyone is saying IHart or Caruso but Joe might be the best fit like you are saying. It’ll be really interesting what Mark will do but I’m excited as ever to see what this team does this year
@@jackswanson8236 You lucky Thunder fan lol. I’m very envious. Yeah it’s interesting that the lineup data is so transparent about Joe being the key piece. I wonder if we see it in action.
@@_AVC_You’ll see Joe along side SGA a lot, but it will be more when SGA is running the 2nd unit. Having Caruso in there to start is the perfect fit. Can close with any combo of the Big 3 and literally anyone else in the top 9.
@@devxplayerdevelopment I suppose that’s the hope! I don’t know if he’ll have the same gravity that we know Joe has but Caruso does just tend to play winning basketball so it probably doesn’t matter too much.
Great video man.
@@PapaFurnace Aye thank you! I certainly try 😅. Hope to see you around the community more!
Loving the season previews. I'm salivating over the lineup data. Keen to get access to the spreadsheet and have a chat on the Discord 😁
@@Aussie_OKC_fan Aye I appreciate you! Use the link below to jump on the discord and then shoot me a DM to get the spreadsheet! See you there!
discord.gg/cmByHNGd54
Great vid!
1. I am very high on Topic, he can be the “Maestro” of the second unit, and play next to the starters.
2. Loved the “lineup utilization” part. I think OKC will have the ability to be the most versatile team in the NBA. They will be able to play against every team - run 2 bigs (like Minnesota), run Chet at the 5, run so many defenders, it’s unfair. They are thinking about the playoffs…
The most amazing thing is that they are so young. With only players on the roster, in 5 years they can have:
PG: SGA/Topic
SG:Wallace (a Kentucky guard so I am high on him)/Joe
SF: Dort/Wiggins
PF: J Dub/Dieng
C: Chet/Williams
That’s without Caruso and Hartenshtein, no draft picks, no trades… that’s amazing!
How to draft well, develop young players and build a team 101
@@LiamEdelshtein Yeah this team is just playing this game the right way. Emphasizing a good culture and internal development is a sure fire way of doing it. They seem to have figured out the unlimited draft picks glitch as well haha!
The perfect example is Chet - was hurt during his “first season” and look how perfectly he fits in…
That’s a sign of the system and the team around him…
That’s why I am high on Topic.
@@LiamEdelshtein Yeah I hope he gets a good chance to build some confidence and get stronger! They don’t seem to miss on picks very often so I’m inclined to think something good will come from it.
Lineups are also dependent on matchups. The best teams are adaptable. OKC has the depth and variety of talent to make a chip run.
@@EasyRidingWithUncleDoc That’s a great point! This team can really play puzzle maker with everyone else in the league. So much versatility!
Hey AVC, Jae Crowder is working out with the kings, hopefully he can rediscover some form with them
I still think Oladipo can be a good pickup as 8th or 9th option on a contending team
@@johnnykeane9633 I literally just have no clue if Oladipo is physically able to play.
I love the idea of Joe in the starting lineup but I think we put too much of emphasis on being a starter but it may just be a matter of which particular lineup is able to give us more of what we need at that point, which generally could be to come out strong offensively at the jump. Similar to how Hartenstein would be favoured to be in the starting lineup in a matchup against the Nuggets and Jokic.
Outside of the core 3, I think everyone else is matchup dependent.
@@chinhong4578 I actually totally agree with your statement about the emphasis of a starter. It really shouldn’t matter that much. I will say though, in my time as a coach players definitely care about it haha. Players also value consistency in that stuff so it can be tough to balance. But I do agree it should be a more dependent variable for them.
@@_AVC_more often than not, the starting five are the best five players on the team. But for this Thunder team it is a luxury not to have a significant drop off from the 5th to 6th player
@@chinhong4578 Oh yeah 100%. They have legit 7 starters on the team. Even after that there is some quality as well. It’s a great position for them and I’m so curious to see what they roll out there.
Hi thanks for the analasys. OKC's stars will have team friendly cintracts for 3 years . That's why Presty gave Hartenstein 87 mln for 3 seasons. But he can't shoot. And OKC throw threes. So a lot will depend on Holmgren's progress. On the otherr hand, they have undersized 1st unit.
So... what about a trade of Dort+ pick/s for Jaden Mcdaniels. It will save Minnesota some taxes. But i doubt if they avree to strengthen the rivals
@@arkadypolonsky2355 That’s a really interesting thought. Yeah I don’t think they do that move at least but I doubt McDaniels is untouchable. They are definitely still trying to figure out how he works on the team.
No suprises here, the thunder as the 1 seed. Very deep and very versatile team. Have all the assets in the world to do whatever they think positions them best now and for the future. The thunder are just such a well ran organization
@@M8trix6363 I wonder what it feels like to be a fan of a team that’s well run?
I'm guessing they'll address their Wing problems in the next draft which is LOADED with talented wings. Esp with the thunder having like the clippers pick which could be sooo useful and if the clippers really do stink and not even make the playoffs... that could help this thunder team land HIGHER in the draft and maybe have a shot at someone like Ace Bailey, Hugo Gonzalez, or Drake Powell which are all TALENTED WINGS that if the thunder can land? I'll prolly stick with the picks instead of trading them away just to get a DFS or Kuzma who tbh aren't really intriguing.
@@LouisVirigl12 Haha I suppose they can just keep drafting people! Eventually they’ll just have a team of like 90 ovr 2k players!
Shit if the clippers end up sucking and Klaw or harden dont even play... Y'all might even have a shot on fuckin Copper Flagg
@@_AVC_ Honestly with how the CBA is rn I don't blame the thunder for not trading any 1st round picks ESP for getting Caruso which is still a huge steal
@@HenryBarlowe Welll IDK if I'd go as far as to say that the thunder can Land Copper Flagg like I think the HIGHEST I can see them? If you factor in with how bad the clippers could be... I'd say they could land at least top 5. But honestly anything can happen.. The HAWKS out off all the teams landed top 1 and no one expected that Lol The thunder will have to get REALLL LUCKY to land top 1 and get Copper Flagg. It'll be hilarious if the thunder do get Flagg LOL
@@_AVC_ Sam Presti is literally the GODFATHER rn😂 he has so many avenues to make this team even better
Okc should be the favorite in the west , considering denver has regressed, dallas lost their best defender , caruso is a better than giddy and hartenstein gives them more flexibility on matchups depending on the team, j dub and chet should be better along w cason so yea they should be the favorites in the west
@@fluffyninja28 Yeah I agree with like 90% of what you said there, but anyway yeah they should be the favorite. Like you said, the versatility they have is unmatched at this point. They can really combat anything you could throw at them.
You obviously don't watch the Thunder.
@@NicholasBenTaylor Is the short on your channel of you? What’s going on there? 😂