We used to train that as a transition into roof or wing block depending on side. Also good for mechanical conditioning with knife to go cut to stab if you tighten up the movement. Open hands it conditions mechanics for a follow-up inverted shuto (strike with top edge of hand) or backhand or on the opposite side into a corkscrew punch. Theoretically you could transition from strike to thrust with the stick but doesn't work so well in practice. Used with two hands this works very well with barstool or chair (held legs facing away) or other heavier object as it allows one to redirect the business end of the tool with the end following a tighter arc.
Sakan Lam alright i got an idea, i was taught after you do your first strike bring it to your other shoulder and strike again, its like hammering and whipping someone but with a stick
The technique aside mate, the fact that you actually give credit to those that did it first is both rare in martial Arts and commendable! Awesome work and drills too!
Torg Borger Yeah it's important because there is essentially nothing new in the martial arts world. I'm simply giving my insight on how to help others learn techniques taught by the great pioneers in our industry.
This is a stick handling, familiarization drill, a technique not necessarily used in a combat situation... if it fits for the moment, you'll have the muscle memory and not have to think about it. This drill can also be done on both sides in an upward 3 & 4 slash as well... it's all about stick handling, which will convert to combat readiness. Usaah!
Not effective, your elbow will be hit asap and you are finish. You wont had time when engaging an opponent at full speed specially with bladed weapons.
At one time a few years ago u did a great elbow and hand strike drill may b 12 counts each side I sure would appreciate it u could repost. It thanku Ron g
Awesome! I've been seeing that strike many times but seems hard to follow when someone is doing it fast. Thank you for the step-to-step instruction. Pugay!
can you let me know the purpose of the dog tail movement please. i am just wondering why one would use this move over just rotating the wrist and striking diagonal down in a V motion start to finish.
The florete motion helps capture some momentum from the previous swing. Also the twirling motion allows the stick to roll around and bypass blocks from your opponent. I believe the Dog Bros. can explain it better in their video! Thanks for asking.
Hello, the main martial arts I teach in my online programs are Jeet Kune Do, Kali, & Silat. Solo Silat at Home is about the Indonesian / Malaysian art of Silat. If you'd like to learn stick fighting then please check out Kali Online - Way of the Weapon. Thank you!
Glad you found it useful. I'm always trying to do the motions slowly and carefully so that people can learn... So I don't often get the chance to show off haha!
This is my opinion, so take it for what it is worth. I have fought in dog brothers events and I can honestly say that the tail is often a bad habit. When done intentionally it is fine, but the purpose of it is almost certainly not for aiding in quicker follow up strikes (unless you are talking about the abaniko cleverly hiding in the tail motion. In Lameco this is called Kalis Saez.) The tail is a lot of extra movement and totally inefficient for that purpose if we are talking about the 1 and 2 angles. I have never seen someone swing a 1 and 2 with the tail faster than someone swinging a straight 1 and 2. The tail is deceptive however and can/should be used to break rhythm. The exception to this is in the case of using really heavy weapons. In the case of something lighter the angle 1 should never swing through in such a way that the elbow passes the body. It creates a massive gap in your bubble that is easy to exploit. This should be a basic rule. The elbow does not cross center line.
Really appreciate your input, sir. Much more important to get realistic feedback than to play in theory. I've been wanting to try my hand at Kali Tudo, but number one, haven't had the guts for it, and number 2, don't quite have the community up for this sort of fighting. I'm sure I'll come and ask you for advice on proper gear and setting up basic rules. Thanks so much for sharing!
@@SakanLam yes to the above .... + groin cup + mouth guard (Shock Doctor is a great brand for this). Fencing masks without modification tend to slip sideways or up and down. Try wearing a thick knit cap or bolting/sewing on wide velcro straps so you can add one more significant tightening on the head. Gather up like minded people who want to test themselves. Those who will be Friends at the End of the Day. Set up camera + tripod Lay out some very simple guidance (tapping = stoppage, don't give head shots when they are on all fours) then START BANGIN' REAL CONTACT :D
paulcarl76 You would have to come with a wide sunkete (thrust) downwards and 45 degrees and then twirl it into a floreté angle one. Hope that makes sense.
No, a floreteé isn't a proper strike. It can be used as a feint or deflection before a full power strike. Imagine seeing the tail from your opponent and you lifting your stick for a block... The next strike would slip through the defense.
Oliver Paderanga You've got it. The point is to continue the momentum and flow into the next strike. Ever heard of a move called a Cambiata? It's similar to that. Thanks for commenting and trying out the technique!
Thanks, and you're welcome. I haven't heard of Cambiata before, so I googled it and found I've practiced it but never knew it was called that. I understand now the similarity of the movements. Thanks again.
Do you think this is an effective move for stick fighting and sparring?
We used to train that as a transition into roof or wing block depending on side. Also good for mechanical conditioning with knife to go cut to stab if you tighten up the movement.
Open hands it conditions mechanics for a follow-up inverted shuto (strike with top edge of hand) or backhand or on the opposite side into a corkscrew punch.
Theoretically you could transition from strike to thrust with the stick but doesn't work so well in practice. Used with two hands this works very well with barstool or chair (held legs facing away) or other heavier object as it allows one to redirect the business end of the tool with the end following a tighter arc.
Sakan Lam alright i got an idea, i was taught after you do your first strike bring it to your other shoulder and strike again, its like hammering and whipping someone but with a stick
I think It is a very technical and powerfull movement that shows good capabilities. And you explain excelent. Thanks
You are so handsome😍
@@gemsplus7583 You are one of the few who've said so! Thank you ♥️!!
Definitely the most sympathetic tutor all over TH-cam. Thanks and all the best...
Many thanks for the kind words.
Beautifully explained, Sakan! And practicing floretes beside windows! Just proves how tight your control is over your swings!
+bladesociety My wife would kill me if I broke one! Better film under the banana tree next time!
Sakan Lam hahahhaaaa
The technique aside mate, the fact that you actually give credit to those that did it first is both rare in martial Arts and commendable! Awesome work and drills too!
Torg Borger Yeah it's important because there is essentially nothing new in the martial arts world. I'm simply giving my insight on how to help others learn techniques taught by the great pioneers in our industry.
Very good teacher
This is a stick handling, familiarization drill, a technique not necessarily used in a combat situation... if it fits for the moment, you'll have the muscle memory and not have to think about it. This drill can also be done on both sides in an upward 3 & 4 slash as well... it's all about stick handling, which will convert to combat readiness. Usaah!
Thank you Sensei !
OSU!!
>>>>>>👍
Not effective, your elbow will be hit asap and you are finish. You wont had time when engaging an opponent at full speed specially with bladed weapons.
It's cool man. Just relaying material I thought useful from the Dog Bros. who are generally stick fighters.
At one time a few years ago u did a great elbow and hand strike drill may b 12 counts each side I sure would appreciate it u could repost. It thanku Ron g
I believe it might be this video. Please take a look and see if it is what you're referring to, thanks!
th-cam.com/video/ZEEKSLUv150/w-d-xo.html
How does this differ from a florete, or is it the same thing. it feel the same when I practice it?
It is the same, sir.
Thanx for the insight!!!
@@johndixon408 my pleasure. Thank you for watching the tutorial 🙏
Excellent presentation! Thank you!
My pleasure and thank you for watching 🙏
That's great it really helps for learning and practice thanks a lot for this video.
Thanks for giving me the feedback bro. All the best!
Sabes ponerte en nuestros zapatos y explicas muy bien, otros quieren dar un show y no explican paso a paso y como es,gracias,R.P.G.
Thanks for showing your instruction in slow speed, I was better able to grasp the intricacies of the technic.
Anytime, my friend. Happy to help your training in any way I can
Thank you teacher much appreciated .
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
Good
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha make it simple and lightning strike ha ha ha i don't want to blame your instructor....
I know how to dog tail already
Okay, cool.
Awesome! I've been seeing that strike many times but seems hard to follow when someone is doing it fast. Thank you for the step-to-step instruction. Pugay!
dgtalcue Glad to have been of help, my friend.
Continue posting videos as I see your post as one the effective ways of learning Arnis.
dgtalcue Very kind of you to say that. I'll keep my channel going as long as I have supporters like you! Pugay!
Pugay!
Another good vid.
That was taught very well. Very interesting content. Looks fun. I think I will do it.
Thank you! Let me know how it works out for you.
I learned that basics are important.
Thank you. Sakan Lam.
and If I go to your country,
Let's have a cup of coffee.
bestrok76 Absolutely, you're welcome to come to Chiang Mai and try our local coffees. I think basics are the only thing certain to work!
thanks could you do a video on the kali fulcrum technique
I'm not sure what the Kali fulcrum technique is... could you explain further?
doblete salitan.
Has a nice ring to it.
can you let me know the purpose of the dog tail movement please.
i am just wondering why one would use this move over just rotating the wrist and striking diagonal down in a V motion start to finish.
The florete motion helps capture some momentum from the previous swing. Also the twirling motion allows the stick to roll around and bypass blocks from your opponent. I believe the Dog Bros. can explain it better in their video! Thanks for asking.
Nice job thanks for the tips
Anytime. Hope it works out for you, bro.
Hi sifu what kind of kunfu do.you teach in online Solo Silat at Home course? I'm interesting to join my main favorite are karambit and stick figting
Hello, the main martial arts I teach in my online programs are Jeet Kune Do, Kali, & Silat. Solo Silat at Home is about the Indonesian / Malaysian art of Silat. If you'd like to learn stick fighting then please check out Kali Online - Way of the Weapon. Thank you!
@@SakanLam Hi sir the course name.is The Solo Silat at Home course? If yes I join now thx
@@zebriu100 members.corecombatchiangmaionline.com/courses/solo-silat-at-home
@@SakanLam sure it is stick fighting course?
I can't find any Kali online course on your site
Very good instruction!
MrAlkai Really appreciate the positive feedback!
Thank you so much. That was a great explanation.
Marc Rice Happy to have been of help in your journey.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Many thanks!
You are an excellent instructor, thank you sir.
My pleasure, sir. Always happy to share my knowledge!
Please do more stick tutorials!
That's what I have planned in the future!
Florettes! Nice one brother 😀
Much appreciated brother!
Very artistic and impressive moves, very fluid. Love it
Thank you, Ben. I love practicing this as it helps me keep the sticks in motion for sparring!
great video really clear explanation, many thanks.
Glad you found it useful. I'm always trying to do the motions slowly and carefully so that people can learn... So I don't often get the chance to show off haha!
I have at least a dozen views.thank you and much respect
TREE HUGGAH I'm honored that you would take so much time to practice this diligently! Would love to see your work as well! Best wishes my friend.
Excellent, clear and concise.
Thank you for the kind comments!!
@@SakanLam thank you, I find your style of teaching calm, effective and most of all efficient.
@@clivewilliams6450 I believe I have a gift and have done my best to cultivate it 🙏
@@SakanLam you have, you are and long may you continue on your journey, many thanks.
This is my opinion, so take it for what it is worth. I have fought in dog brothers events and I can honestly say that the tail is often a bad habit. When done intentionally it is fine, but the purpose of it is almost certainly not for aiding in quicker follow up strikes (unless you are talking about the abaniko cleverly hiding in the tail motion. In Lameco this is called Kalis Saez.) The tail is a lot of extra movement and totally inefficient for that purpose if we are talking about the 1 and 2 angles. I have never seen someone swing a 1 and 2 with the tail faster than someone swinging a straight 1 and 2. The tail is deceptive however and can/should be used to break rhythm. The exception to this is in the case of using really heavy weapons. In the case of something lighter the angle 1 should never swing through in such a way that the elbow passes the body. It creates a massive gap in your bubble that is easy to exploit. This should be a basic rule. The elbow does not cross center line.
Really appreciate your input, sir. Much more important to get realistic feedback than to play in theory. I've been wanting to try my hand at Kali Tudo, but number one, haven't had the guts for it, and number 2, don't quite have the community up for this sort of fighting. I'm sure I'll come and ask you for advice on proper gear and setting up basic rules. Thanks so much for sharing!
@@SakanLam Dungeon Dog here. What are your questions?
@@jeeperpete99 Hi sir, what equipment do we start with? Fencing masks, hockey gloves, knee pads... anything else?
@@SakanLam yes to the above .... + groin cup + mouth guard (Shock Doctor is a great brand for this).
Fencing masks without modification tend to slip sideways or up and down. Try wearing a thick knit cap or bolting/sewing on wide velcro straps so you can add one more significant tightening on the head.
Gather up like minded people who want to test themselves. Those who will be Friends at the End of the Day.
Set up camera + tripod
Lay out some very simple guidance (tapping = stoppage, don't give head shots when they are on all fours)
then START BANGIN' REAL CONTACT :D
Good!
Much appreciated!
Isolate the move ... good idea.
It's important to take baby steps and ingrain the motions first. Then you can start getting creative and linking them together!
Great video man, thanks!
Peter Ferguson Glad you enjoyed it, my friend. More to come soon!
Thanks master but How long this staff?
Nunchaku Egypt Average length is 28 inches.
Sakan Lam thanks master my name Mohamed form Egypt
And iam player Nunchaku please see my videos
very good
Appreciate the comment!
Thanks so much for the instruction bro
It's really help me in learn 👍🙏😊
My pleasure bro. Glad to be of service!
I can buy stick.... where ??
Check out smokingsticks.net. Quality rattan and beautiful designs from the Philippines.
thanks
Brilliant
Keith Mallett Very gracious of you to say so.
Nice drill.
Wael Abdelgawad Thank you sir!
thank you very much.
Pham Sang You're very welcome! Enjoy the rest of the channel.
Yes I'm waiting for other videos.I'm training
Outstanding.🙏🏼
Much appreciated!
how do you edit your shizz.. mine arent even close.
btw good swings
Thanks bruv. I use Power Director. Takes a while to get used to, but soon easier than putting peanut butter on your balls.
Well hello summertime
How would you do a tail like movement off of angle 2?
paulcarl76 You would have to come with a wide sunkete (thrust) downwards and 45 degrees and then twirl it into a floreté angle one. Hope that makes sense.
is that kind of like in the dog brothers tail video were he does the reverse tail off of angle 2? if not could you explain how he does that?
paulcarl76 I'll have to watch it tomorrow and get back to you!
ok thanks. Appreciate it
we're you able to check out that video?
Good stuff man
Let me know how it works for you! My pleasure to share it.
Is the tail a strike? It does not look that way.
No, a floreteé isn't a proper strike. It can be used as a feint or deflection before a full power strike. Imagine seeing the tail from your opponent and you lifting your stick for a block... The next strike would slip through the defense.
Ah, ok. Thank you. It kind of looks like it could be an abanico strike, but when I tried to do that, the fluidity of the motion breaks.
Oliver Paderanga You've got it. The point is to continue the momentum and flow into the next strike. Ever heard of a move called a Cambiata? It's similar to that. Thanks for commenting and trying out the technique!
Thanks, and you're welcome. I haven't heard of Cambiata before, so I googled it and found I've practiced it but never knew it was called that. I understand now the similarity of the movements. Thanks again.
Glad to have been of help, my friend!