Glenn Loury on Race, Inequality, and America 7/20/20

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  • Economist and author Glenn Loury of Brown University talks about race in America with EconTalk host Russ Roberts.
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  • @jg5555
    @jg5555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Glenn Loury is brilliant... hard to get enough of him with all that's going on in the world these days.

    • @mounteverestoftheobvious1182
      @mounteverestoftheobvious1182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Name one thing he's accomplished with all his endless talking? Ya wanna solve problems or pretend to?
      Thomas Sowell is a fraud and no amount of kissing his ass is gonna change that:
      onevoicebecametwo.life/2021/07/05/call-sign-maverick/
      And Glenn Loury doesn't have the guts to abide by his own rules:
      onevoicebecametwo.life/2021/07/11/what-a-fool-believes-he-sees/
      onevoicebecametwo.life/2021/07/13/small-minds-have-big-beginnings/
      . . .

    • @jg5555
      @jg5555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mounteverestoftheobvious1182 Lol, if only they each had a stupid blog that nobody reads like you do or a Twitter account with 11 followers.

    • @mounteverestoftheobvious1182
      @mounteverestoftheobvious1182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jg5555 Stirring defense. Good day.

  • @DHFrank
    @DHFrank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You always get an education when you listen to Glenn Loury.

  • @andreasbikfalvi7484
    @andreasbikfalvi7484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glenn Loury Is outstanding ! We need more like him.

  • @grocefamilyfarm3062
    @grocefamilyfarm3062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The number of times Russ is left in awe of Glenn's ability to say it better than he ever could! 🤣

  • @Mateo-et3wl
    @Mateo-et3wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish glenn were my dad

  • @eric7436
    @eric7436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just can’t stop hearing Dennis Miller whenever Russ speaks. 🤣

  • @Corvin666
    @Corvin666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "three quarters in the difference in black-white wages are accounted for by cognitive performance of the people in the sample when they were teenagers"
    These days, no white scholar would be allowed to say that without getting massive flak from the Twitter mob. Thanks for having Mr. Loury on the show, Russ.

    • @skoto8219
      @skoto8219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s straight out of The Bell Curve, right? Andrew Sullivan is still routinely trashed for publishing a restatement of their findings ~25 years ago. But it’s probably getting to the point where black scholars won’t be able to touch this stuff either.

    • @roundedges2
      @roundedges2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is something very self-defeating about all this. What is the payoff, and who is getting it?

    • @tcveatch
      @tcveatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      roundedges2 The payoff is the energizing of all humans to go after their own highest ideal, consistent with the equal rights of others. Be freed! Go for it!

  • @TheOrdener
    @TheOrdener 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you very much for having Dr. Loury on.

  • @markcounseling
    @markcounseling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    44:00: “I don’t believe in identity pedagogy, I don’t believe in identity epistemology, and I don’t believe in identity politics.” Thank you Glenn Loury for that, 100% brilliant, very helpful, I just stole that but will cite it when I say it. :)

  • @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590
    @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great guest.

  • @SteveMG500
    @SteveMG500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dr. Loury says this at roughly the twelve minute mark: "The descendants of American slaves, again taken as a whole, are the richest, the most powerful and influential population of African descent on the planet."
    Black Americans are (and have been for more than 75 years) some of the world's leading scholars and writers and entertainers and athletes and scientists. It's a remarkable achievement that, for some strange reason, we don't want to talk too much about. For to do so means we have to look at the history of black (and white) Americans in all of its moral and social complexity. Yes, the injustices they faced (and still do to a lesser extent) held them back; but the history of black and white (in particular) is not simply one of oppressed and oppressor. It's just not. Saying it does is an injustice to those who fought it, who overcame it, and who want to continue that mission today.
    A race of people who make these contributions, who are this powerful and influential, cannot - they simply cannot - live in a nation where they are systematically and completely oppressed. It cannot happen. It didn't.

    • @leonpope861
      @leonpope861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That still does not get you or other people off the hook when you take growing in Love Intelligence and Integrity for granted. First Corinthians 13 talks about you can say ,hear ,think or accomplish many good or great things, yet if you do not love it is all vanity and poppycock!🤭🙄😉😏🙃. This is why as individually and collectively, Americans have work to do. Lets get to work and stop trying to find people to pat ourselves on the back, or justify are opinions.

    • @michaelweber5702
      @michaelweber5702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven - True enough

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leonpope861 Americans today don't need to be let of the hook. No nation has a prinstine past but taken as a whole the United States is a great nation and citizens of the USA are lucky to be here.

  • @recordrabbit
    @recordrabbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent discussion. A fun experience to watch Econtalk after listening for so many years.

  • @DanHowardMtl
    @DanHowardMtl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great talk. Glad I found this channel.

  • @celestialteapot309
    @celestialteapot309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marx did not downplay the role of human agency, quite the opposite, he described how capitalism reduced human agency through the process of alienation. Revolutions do not start be eradicating everything that went before, they are a reaction to it. Historical materialism is dialectical. Philosophical materialism which relies on empirical evidence and dialectical reasoning, not fossilised dogma.

  • @molson77
    @molson77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent interview!

  • @BostonSportsFan1233
    @BostonSportsFan1233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else watching this for a university history elective?

  • @juliawise4289
    @juliawise4289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed the conversation. I'm surprised that Russ compared the statue of Stonewall Jackson to those of American presidents. Jackson fought against the United States in order to preserve slavery. A monument to an enemy combatant whose goal was the enslavement of a large portion of US citizens is very different than a monument to a US President, however flawed. I grew up in Richmond with a grandmother who still had Robert E. Lee's portrait on her wall, I attended a school named for a segregationist who closed public schools rather than integrate, etc. It's high time Richmond and other cities got rid of these symbols.

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most systems have rot but we are not rotten to the core , although we do have rot to deal with because our good capitalism system has too much corrupt capitalism in it right now ...

  • @noelhoig541
    @noelhoig541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lack of Vitamin D in newborns? Could look at levels vs outcomes in south Florida vs northern Maine?

  • @journeyman378
    @journeyman378 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wealth underpins all of these issues!

    • @angelaurban8812
      @angelaurban8812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, as economists, where is the discussion about how corporate America is thriving in our nation of chaos and division?

  • @bootstompify
    @bootstompify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation overall, but the host unilaterally labelling Louis IX (Saint Louis) an anti-Semite is not so great.

  • @poettreeclimber
    @poettreeclimber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sensible Majority.... only perceived as silent because of the shouting and lack of self-control of others who conduct themselves without decorum and tantrum their way to shutting down productive discourse.

  • @stellercorpse
    @stellercorpse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spoiled children that want a ready-made life (answer)provided for them. They don't realize they are free to make their own lives better. They should get off of their phones and start. Instead they want to make everybody as miserable as they are.

  • @sprsmoke
    @sprsmoke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So tiring.