Missing The Mark: 2005 Chrysler Crossfire Review

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  • @EdsAutoReviews
    @EdsAutoReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I'd like to rectify that I might have been a bit too harsh. The better the weather, the more I started to enjoy and have fun with it! But, as others point out, maybe this isn't the best of choiche for daily driving, and a better choiche for weekend cruising. Simply because the car doesn't fully meet my wishes and demands doesn't automatically mean it's a bad car.

    • @sg-yq8pm
      @sg-yq8pm ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's a Chrysler, which doesn't automatically mean it's a bad car, but does mean that it probably isn't particularly good.

    • @678rwhp
      @678rwhp ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@sg-yq8pm it's a mercedes slk320 or slk32 amg if you get the srt-6 version. With a manual transmission that mercedes never dared to do. There is a lot of good about these cars.

    • @mojo500100
      @mojo500100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kudos to you--being willing to adjust an opinion is a good quality. Just came upon your vids today and am very impressed-they’re informative and entertaining (it’s not easy to be both.) Looking forward to seeing each of them.

    • @john1703
      @john1703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it is so bad, why did you buy it? 🤣 Don't forget that Chrysler once brought us the Dodge Charger Daytona. 🚗

    • @ejohn8733
      @ejohn8733 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To the person who pointed out that Chrysler made some cherry nice cars and still does from Hellcat to Daytona Etc I will just add Imperial. A car that was the Rival to the Lincoln Continental and the finest Cadillac in other words the royalty of American cars.

  • @Matt_from_Florida
    @Matt_from_Florida ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yo Diggity Dog. I owned a 2005 Xfire Roadster from 2019 until this year, so for 4 years. Bought it at 33K miles & sold it at 45K miles and made $4,000 in the process. Gotta love our crazy car prices! Anywho, I did ALL my own maintenance so I'll throw you a couple bones.
    1) The interior door pulls are wrapped (not plated) in a shiny metallic "tape", for lack of a better word. The seam runs North to South in the center of the pull facing the door, where you can't see it. Every time "you" grab the door-pull your fingers run across that seam and that gradually starts to pull it up and it begins flaking off with the ragged bits happy to give you a bleeding cut. You can remove the door-pull by prying off the front cover and removing 2 screws leaving the door-panel undisturbed. Take the pull to a plating company. Have them remove the wrap-coating and chrome-plate the entire part like they should have done in the first place.
    2) Almost *EVERY mechanical part* is 100% the same as from a 2004 Mercedes-Benz SLK320. I advise right now to forget that the car says 'CHRYSLER' on it as they stopped carrying most of the parts in 2020 and the 1 mechanic who was trained to work on it at each dealership is long gone. Any 'Indy' German car repair shop will work on it.
    3) If the ride is truly unacceptable to you there is an easy fix. Buy the 17" wheels that came on the SLK320 and sell your 19" Xfire wheels. The 17" tires have much more sidewall on them giving much more flex going over bumps.

  • @HappyTribble
    @HappyTribble ปีที่แล้ว +96

    When the Crossfire came out, I went to test drive a manual transmission one. It wouldn't go into 2nd gear. This was a brand new car. Dealer tried, and he couldn't either. That told me everything I needed to know about this quality merger of two automotive giants...

    • @MetalTrabant
      @MetalTrabant ปีที่แล้ว +13

      PT Cruisers had terrible manual shifters as well... it's just not a US thing.

    • @EdsAutoReviews
      @EdsAutoReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Enough said! Hahahaha

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll take things that never happened for $300 Alex

    • @julien80200
      @julien80200 ปีที่แล้ว

      The car simply didn't wanted you to drive it.. next driver xD

  • @georgemeller4074
    @georgemeller4074 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I'd been eyeing the Crossfire for years. Then again, I've got a stupid infatuation with some of the Daimler-Chrysler offerings; the Crossfire and Magnum (and by extension, the 300 by default) are two of my favorite vehicles. After that, everything is all about how quirky / cool something looks.
    Solid review. Keep it up, Ed; you're quickly becoming one of my favorite creators on YT.

    • @MrRicearonie
      @MrRicearonie ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have no idea why I love the Magnum, but man it’s such a cool car imo

    • @CatsEatNomNom
      @CatsEatNomNom ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Magnum was a nice riding, useful car!

    • @smileymalaise
      @smileymalaise ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They should rerelease the Magnum

    • @CatsEatNomNom
      @CatsEatNomNom ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@smileymalaise cars are mostly dead, unfortunately. But it's not like I don't drive an SUV myself...

    • @Trendyflute
      @Trendyflute ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a shame the Magnum didn't survive when the Charger/Challenger/300 got updated; the design and material quality took such a big step with the LD 11+ cars versus the 05-10 LX platform cars. An LD-platform Magnum (yes that surely includes all the Hellcat stuff) would've been mega.

  • @TheAtomicGarage
    @TheAtomicGarage ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Great review, I used to be a technician at a Dodge Chrysler Jeep dealer and we would always call them "Cross-dressers." Your assessment of it is spot on, lukewarm attempt that was really forced on them by Daimler management.

    • @andrewweltlich9065
      @andrewweltlich9065 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was a Mercedes technician and always wondered what Chrysler technicians thought of the Crossfire. The first generation SLK (R170) were terrible vehicles, definitely one of the worst Mercedes ever made.

    • @Dwendele
      @Dwendele ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can those dealers fix a Mercedes slk? Like, computer issues? Or do I REALLY have to take to Mercedes?

    • @michaelburggraf2822
      @michaelburggraf2822 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's what happens when you allow peacounters and marketing freaks to decide on products: fancy junk with lots of show biz. And they're doing it to Mercedes too.

    • @TheAtomicGarage
      @TheAtomicGarage ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@andrewweltlich9065 We had very low opinions on the crossfire. About the only good thing they had (and one of the few good things Mercedes gave Chrysler) was the 722.6 transmission.

    • @TheAtomicGarage
      @TheAtomicGarage ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dwendele We had no problems fixing them, there is really nothing complicated about them. The only thing that I could see being an issue now days is there is an adapter with a programming card for the Chrysler DRBIII so it can communicate with the Mercedes modules. A lot of them could be damaged now or missing and dealers wont get new ones.

  • @OH-HELL-NO...
    @OH-HELL-NO... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a convertible manual Crossfire. I've had it 15 years. It's done about 50,ooo miles. It has never let me down ever. The fuel consumption is very good. On a run taking it easy I've had 49mpg at 50mph. Town driving 28-30. Normal motorway driving about 4ompg. It will go 0-60 in under 6 seconds and goes off the clock flat out.
    The engine is bullet-proof. And still everywhere it gets parked in the summer when it's polished people take a picture as they don't know what it is.
    I bought it when it was two almost three years old for £9500.
    The car has been dynamite. Bought it for my wife. Was going to the showroom to buy a Mercedes SLK at more than twice the price with higher mileage. My wife seen this in the Chrysler showroom opposite and that was it.
    Changed from continental tyres to Avons on advice of some guy I spoke with in Las Vegas. Transformed the ride and handling on UK roads.
    All my other cars are Mercedes and which I don't recommend.
    15 years trouble free motoring.
    Just an alternative point of view. 😊

  • @zx-zf6mg
    @zx-zf6mg ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I don't think I've ever been in a car where the digital thermostat was anything more than a red/blue dial in disguise. Love your show, Ed!

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even my 2001 Pontiac Bonnevilles both have automatic dual zone climate control. Dang. Get a better car, haha. You certainly don't need very much money to do so. I paid 1200 for one, 3000 for another. Get a Bonnie!

    • @shadow105720
      @shadow105720 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I bet that red blue dial has better resolution than going a whole degree Celsius anyway. Hes saying "what if im not happy at this much blue" but what if 18 is too hot and 17 is too cold.

    • @NeedForMichael999999
      @NeedForMichael999999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Geo Metro had something similar to that.

    • @iluvcamaros1912
      @iluvcamaros1912 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awesomeferret Well a 2000+ Bonneville is a Cadillac Seville/Deville with a Pontiac wrapper. So yeah it's a cut above the average sedan in features/content.

  • @Woody_Florida
    @Woody_Florida ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I briefly dated a girl that owned a Crossfire. I drove it a few times, and it was fun to drive. And she pointed out to me that it was a Mercedes more than a few times. I enjoyed driving the car, definitely, but I would not say that I was very impressed with it. But, needless to say, I never let her drive my sw20 MR2 in turn.

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Rather liked it myself.
      Always wanted "compact" luxury, and hand-me-downs from Benz ain't such a bad place to be.
      What is bad is Benz's upkeep and reliability.
      Not that Chrysler was any great shakes in this department, but at least repair costs would have been more reasonable.

    • @Alpostpone
      @Alpostpone ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@quintessenceSL Cheaper to buy a generic accessory piece to cover the problem than genuine Mercedes replacement parts.

    • @bakgammon
      @bakgammon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@quintessenceSLMy benz is over 200,000+ miles.

  • @TheOtherBill
    @TheOtherBill ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Ed, your next car after this has to be a 2005 Thunderbird. A comparison between those two would make for a great video.

    • @douglasb.1203
      @douglasb.1203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thunderbird is so much better

    • @EdsAutoReviews
      @EdsAutoReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have actually been looking at T-birds! Especially because they do come with floaty suspension. However, they are heavy, thirsty, expensive and above all, rare over here so getting replacement part sis a challenge... unfortunately.....

    • @ThePuffin77
      @ThePuffin77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EdsAutoReviews The late model T-birds ride on the DEW98 platform which is shared with the Jaguar S type if that makes parts availability any better

    • @thomosburn8740
      @thomosburn8740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@douglasb.1203 Not sure I agree. I have a 2002 T-bird -and- a '05 Crossfire.
      The Crossfire has a MUCH better stereo, more trunk space, much better steering and tire-grip on the road, and a faster 0-60 mph time.
      It's also 50% more fuel efficient on the highway. The Thunderbird by contrast has softer seats, and two proper cupholders.

  • @jessicalembach6805
    @jessicalembach6805 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've had mine for a long time and I love it. It's a head-turner for sure and it's SUPER fun to drive. However, all if the issues you mentioned are definitely true. Another drawback is that it is extremely difficult to find parts and mechanics that are willing/able to work on them. Repairs can get very expensive very quickly. It's a unique car though, and definitely has a cult following. It's best suited as a back-up fun car rather than your main vehicle.

    • @678rwhp
      @678rwhp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take it to a mercedes mechanic. I love mine as well. There is nothing like it. It's planted, handles like it's on rails, and looks good going down the road. An under 10k enthusiasts car bargain.

    • @EdsAutoReviews
      @EdsAutoReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you hit the spot... I enjoy it more on a sunny day on the backroads than on my daily commute (unless the sun shines). And I'll admit this is not the most straight forward choice for a daily driver.

  • @tomdelisle8955
    @tomdelisle8955 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I always liked the look of the Crossfire and credit to Chrysler in these years for putting out some interesting cars like this and the Prowler.

    • @leonb2637
      @leonb2637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, the Prowler. Sadly it was another 'looks good on paper' car but failed in the market. It came with the same V-6 as this Crossfire did instead of a proper V-8. It also had awkward front design due to the need for a bumper and fender over the front wheels

    • @compassioncampaigner728
      @compassioncampaigner728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@leonb2637
      I disagree. Liked the fenders.

  • @JackBWatkins
    @JackBWatkins ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I loved mine, same spec as yours. What I liked most was that they depreciated very fast and I got it at a reasonable price.

  • @Haulinbassracing
    @Haulinbassracing ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That legendary chrysler+Mercedes-Benz build quality after the warranty is gone is something to behold

    • @MichaelDavis-cy4ok
      @MichaelDavis-cy4ok ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recently had a conversation with my Dad, who's a mechanic. I made him laugh when I sent this to him...
      Words German engineers have never heard:
      Durable
      Serviceable
      Economical
      Words German engineers live by:
      Precision
      Snobbery

  • @laserjet2000
    @laserjet2000 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a 308cc owner for 10 years (and a printer), my impression is: “LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO DO NOT HAVE A CONVERTIBLE IF YOU CAN AFFORD ONE”! XD Nice ride, Ed!! Cheers from Brazil!

    • @danmccarthy4700
      @danmccarthy4700 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could not imagine life without a convertible!

    • @grahamlockley4435
      @grahamlockley4435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@danmccarthy4700 With the UK weather, a convertible is nice for about four weeks a year :)

    • @mikeakers3453
      @mikeakers3453 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have not had a convertible since I owned a 2009 BMW 3 with twin turbos and a six-speed manual transmission. Traded it in 2012. I've owned 11 convertibles, my favorite being a 1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass. In Florida there are two months a year when you rarely have a top-down day - July and August. Modern cars allow you to use the air-conditioner with the top down so I used the BMW even then. I want another convertible but right now I have other things to concentrate on.

  • @pinball_newf
    @pinball_newf ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Chrysler got stuck with so many of these they offered them to employees on a very cheap lease to get them on the streets. I was the beneficiary of one of those leases - I was glad to experience it and was glad when it went away...

    • @crankychris2
      @crankychris2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like my last boat...

  • @danmccarthy4700
    @danmccarthy4700 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I had a first-generation SLK for 9 years and let's just say its interior quality wasn't much better than the Crossfire. By the time I totaled it last year, all the paint had flaked off the center console, the metal "gate" surrounding the automatic shift lever had popped out and was only being held in by friction, the headliner sagged to the point where I had to just rip it out, both the glove compartment and the center console storage lid wouldn't stay shut, and the roof leaked all over the passenger seat when it rained. If anything, the cupholder situation in the Crossfire, however janky, was vastly preferable to that in the SLK whose placement at the top of the dash would cause condensation to leak all over the stereo on hot days (I got into the habit of keeping paper towels in the car at all times). Oh, and that cupholder broke too. Funny thing is, I still miss that car. I didn't find the suspension harsh at all and had no problems taking it on 8+ hour road trips (when it didn't break down, mind you). I cried like I'd lost a pet after I cleaned it out for the last time and took the plates off it. Still, I never saw the point of the Crossfire in general. Like, why buy an SLK without the SLK's main party trick?

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, a friend of mine got one gifted to them new, it made it to 2009 before getting scrapped out

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was an awesome gift back in the day.

  • @larryfromwisconsin9970
    @larryfromwisconsin9970 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My sister in California, USA daily drives her Crossfire since she bought it new. This year the computer went out and the car was dead. Chrysler wouldn't fix it and Mercedes wouldn't fix it. She finally found an independent mechanic that specializes in European cars that put a junkyard computer into it to get it running again. She still loves it.

    • @nunyabidniz2868
      @nunyabidniz2868 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doh! Too late... he already put a Xfire junkyard computer into it. The smart money takes the intake manifold off the equivalent SLK and the SLK computer for a quick bump in power! Lovely how Benz didn't want the Crossfire to be just an uglier, crappier version of the SLK, but also chose to hobble its (insufficient) horsepower too...

  • @IWrocker
    @IWrocker ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I had a 2004 coupe with the Manual Transmission, was really fun to drive and sounded great. But as you said in the outro, I got tired of driving it daily, it rode so stiff and rough… and the Manual was NOT geared for heavy traffic either. So I had it 12 months and got rid of it.
    I don’t regret owning it though, it was fun, unlike any car I’ve ever owned, and I miss it sometimes. It’s on odd one, but I’m glad they made it.

    • @steved3702
      @steved3702 ปีที่แล้ว

      I more I hear about these, the more I'm happy with my NB Miata/MX-5. Hard to drive without smiling and the roof's down whenever the rain's absent.

  • @mrshelfsong
    @mrshelfsong ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Well Ed, I say that as long as you keep making videos as good as this one, it will not be long before you can upgrade to a car that will impress you more. I am anxious to see what that car will be. Keep up the good work bro !

  • @jacksonlewis3732
    @jacksonlewis3732 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Nearly bought one of these back in 2019. Passed up on it for a Mazda 3 6 speed. 120K miles later I think I made the right choice. Really enjoy your videos!

    • @TSL73
      @TSL73 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nice car you found

  • @reitsmaassociates
    @reitsmaassociates ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the crazy crossfire, makes me smile whenever I see one. I went the 350z route in 2003, and later the TT route - awesome review as always - cheers from Brisbane

  • @Mike81111
    @Mike81111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was so funny when you spoke about the interior I could easily hear all kind of cracking noises from the interior when you even slightly moved🤣

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And the 1st gen SLK is still one of my dream cars.
    Great looks that harkens back to pony cars, but with a modern touch.

  • @1_Papa
    @1_Papa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh, Ed. 😔 You're the only person I know (sorta) who actually traded down. That Hyundai was a much better car. Oh well, at least you have a convertible for the summer, and this was again, another great video! 👍

  • @DiecastDreamCustoms
    @DiecastDreamCustoms ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone else get the distinct feeling we were watching a new version of Top Gear? Seriously... Bang-up job, Ed! Also... Answer your damned emails. Lol.

  • @johngraves6878
    @johngraves6878 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always adored the design of the Crossfire and the Porsche 928, two divine vehicles that seem to have fallen out of favor. I just love the way it looks -- the rear end is very voluptuous. I look forward to your review of this sexy set of wheels.

    • @mrshelfsong
      @mrshelfsong ปีที่แล้ว

      Same two vehicles for me too

    • @mrshelfsong
      @mrshelfsong ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah, Pontiac Solstice too

    • @augustneverends
      @augustneverends ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 928 is a serious engineering piece de résistance, the Crossfire is a badge engineering/marketing mistake.

  • @DwightMS1
    @DwightMS1 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    It's a shame the Crossfire is such a piece of junk. It's a sharp looking car.

    • @williamweddington3140
      @williamweddington3140 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The rear of the car doesn’t match the styling of the front. Square versus round.

    • @robertmoffett3486
      @robertmoffett3486 ปีที่แล้ว

      To you. I think they're ugly

    • @JEGWAY7670RICHIERICH
      @JEGWAY7670RICHIERICH ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Ok Chrysler misfire 🌧

    • @toddfraser3353
      @toddfraser3353 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That is a Chrysler trait. The body make them look like a higher class car, but cheap out on the little details. Back in 2002, I wanted a convertible, and was comparing the Sebring with a Toyota Solara. They looked similar, but the Solara was just more refined, it could have been a Lexus model.

    • @frogmantoad8110
      @frogmantoad8110 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Junk? I had one and loved it. It wasn’t junky at all.

  • @agenturawubekistanie
    @agenturawubekistanie ปีที่แล้ว

    You are propably only one person on Earth who could made me watch a review of this car

  • @virtuosoification
    @virtuosoification ปีที่แล้ว

    "finds potholes in the road you couldnt even find with a magnifying glass" sounds like my '10 volvo v50 . thanks for your car content ! always awesome

  • @MrBrewskiDrewski
    @MrBrewskiDrewski ปีที่แล้ว

    Living in Michigan, I’ve seen a few of these around. But almost none in recent years. Glad to see a review to see what I was missing as a kid. Thanks, Ed!

  • @confusedcoco5947
    @confusedcoco5947 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy crap I'm early! Hello ed, I'm glad you also like that car as much as I do!

  • @christopherkraft1327
    @christopherkraft1327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations Ed on your new daily driver!!! 👍👍🙂

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Ed. You were honest and I hope you will get the car you want for your next car. It is interesting how they took out content for Chrysler and left it in for Mercedes Benz. They I guess were not going to be upstaged. It was not a merger of equals. You were to the point and entertaining as usual.

  • @johnboulton1109
    @johnboulton1109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Ed! Fascinating to see your honest review of this car. I remember this car being launched and thought it looked great at the time…. 😂 looking forward to seeing your next one!

  • @JackKovach
    @JackKovach ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a new subscriber and found Ed’s evaluation to be spot on. I fell in love with the crossfire back in 2005 when I was a hihh school drafting teacher and coached young aspiring automotive designers in design competitions in Pittsburgh, PA. I was sorrly disappointed when I test drove one and realized how cheaply made they were. The designer of the beautiful body deserves a shout out, though. Eric Stoddard graduated from a school in Pittsburgh’s sister city, Cleveland, Ohio.

  • @AngelaSurprise
    @AngelaSurprise ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 2005 limited roadster for 16 years. Loved it!!!! So much fun to drive..Fast, beautiful looking, and I never had a mechanical issue with it. It packs a lot of power!!! However, the cup holder is useless, I bought a side cup holder that fixed that problem and yes the interior was Tinfoil looking 😂 but I was the second owner and the price was right…This was my summer car. I finally sold her when I got too old to get in and out of it 😢.

  • @SKC_car
    @SKC_car ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a review about one of my favourite cars, the SLK roadster !

  • @stephenmontgomery5807
    @stephenmontgomery5807 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel and man because it is rad to see a non USA opinion/view of our US car market

  • @Cheezwizzz
    @Cheezwizzz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it was Jeremy Clarkson that described the rear of the Crossfire like a dog taking a dump! I could never unsee that since 😂

    • @volktales7005
      @volktales7005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can see that now too! Pretty accurate description!

    • @gjl7022
      @gjl7022 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol yes and in a later episode when he drove the roadster wound up eating his words about it later on.

    • @christopping5876
      @christopping5876 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too!

  • @charlescrossman2225
    @charlescrossman2225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    CONGRATS ED!!!

  • @jonathankleinow2073
    @jonathankleinow2073 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The plastics on the DaimlerChrysler-era cars were... woof. The sun visors could draw blood if you weren't careful when moving them. This entry from Edmunds' Inside Line blog (I miss them!) about their long-term 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan says a lot:
    The interior quality of our long term 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan is so disappointing, it's difficult for me to put it into words. But I'm going to give it a shot.
    This van feels like it was designed and assembled by apes. Apes that were pounded mercilessly by bean counters to get more cost out of the poor resulting van's interior...
    Apes that have never been in a Honda Odyssey. Apes that have no respect for their customers. Apes that have no problem sleeping at night after selling people a plasticy, poorly put together crapmobile for the ridiculous sum of $40,200.
    If I spent that much of my hard earned dollars on this van, the first thing I would do is drive it head long into a bridge abutment. Sure, I'd probably be dead. But at least I wouldn't have to drive it anymore. Or pay for it. And remember, I haven't once complained about the Caravan's nonexistent brakes, or its apparently missing rear suspension, or its 4.0-liter V6 which feels and sounds like it's full of rocks. No, I'm only talking about its interior, which is seemingly without a soft surface, a properly aligned panel or a single switchgear that delivers a pleasing tactile sensation. Hey, what do you want for $40K? Quality?
    Instead the Grand Caravan feels like Dodge just doesn't care. Like the company has given up. Take the Caravan's shifter for instance. You must use it every time you drive the car, so it should feel good right? Common sense. But the Caravan's shifter doesn't feel good. It feels like one of my five year old's art projects. It crashes into Drive with such a junky clatter you'd swear Dodge forgot to install some bushing or some little piece of something that's supposed to make it not feel that lame. But Dodge didn't forget. Instead the company left it out to save money.
    Even the little + sign on the shifter has already jettisoned itself. It seems our Detroit Editor Dan Pund wiped it off with the tip of his index finger by accident when he was doing a bit of cookie crumb removal. Pathetic. Guess somebody at Dodge realized the permanent ink would have cost extra.

    • @iluvcamaros1912
      @iluvcamaros1912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The worst thing is the interiors were better before Daimler got involved. I was just a kid when they were new, but to this day I have such a soft spot for the Concorde and 300M. Beautiful inside and out. But by the mid 2000s every Chrysler/Dodge suddenly had a hard, cheap, light gray plastic interior. It was sad to watch happen.

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol who fucking cares what elitist mags say and why would you believe them? Car & Driver, Motor Trend, JD Powers and all their ilk have been anti-US cars since the late '60s- it's an unspoken agenda. Only with bribes would an American car get a pass. Don't clutch your pearls this is facts. Cultural Marxism is very real.
      And the Dodge Caravan's interior was phenomenal, I owned a 2006 so the hysterics about shit level interior is just someone talking out their ass.

  • @Axel_Andersen
    @Axel_Andersen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never driven one, but I like the looks. Especially back. Very, very few cars looks good from the back. I also like the looks of most of the Chrysler lineup, though I've heard they are not great cars as such.

  • @dm5374
    @dm5374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kudos for your explanation of the center crease! I owned a 2001 SLK 320 S1 and I do recognize both the interior and the engine. BTW, also the Merc had those non-numbered climate control wheels. However, the S1 SLK 320 car was striaght from the Malaise-Era of Mercedes and mine had problems from Day 1, including (from new) water pump and electrical issues. Also, the retro- illuminated orange numbers on the white guages were invisible in daylight - whose idea was that? I hope he was fired.

  • @ianwynne764
    @ianwynne764 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Ed. I really like the very short clip of The Crazy World of Arthur Brown song. Good job.

  • @-POISON-
    @-POISON- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations for getting the Crossfire. I always thought the convertible looked cool and especially in that color. Enjoy the summer drives!

  • @digitalrailroader
    @digitalrailroader ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:51 what happened with Mercedes and Chrysler was NOT a “partnership” or “Merger of Equals”, it was a hostile takeover in all but name because DaimlerBenz was floundering in the late 90s and they saw all of the success that Chrysler was having (they launched 6 completely redesigned or all new platforms in the span of 4 years ranging from minivans to halo sports cars) and saw the 1 billion dollars in profits that Chrysler was saving for a rainy day and immediately started talks with Chrysler’s CEO at the time Bob Eaton. Once the deal was done, the German engineers and management started to treat Chrysler engineers as “inferior” and proceeded to decontent Chrysler’s products and funnel large amounts of cash into the German half of the company. Once the damage was complete in 2008, Daimler proceeded to dump Chrysler’s hollowed out husk where it was bought by hedge fund Cerberus Group. Then after the bankruptcy proceedings in 2009, Fiat bought Chrysler from Cerberus Group nursed it back to profitability with the redesigned lineup in 2011.

    • @thysonsacclaim
      @thysonsacclaim ปีที่แล้ว

      Right--he's saying that ironically.

  • @cornsyruptrucker
    @cornsyruptrucker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your reviews. Glad you are starting to go into some live action reviews 👍🏼

  • @davincisghost9228
    @davincisghost9228 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I just want you to know that one day we will come for you and it will be a good thing. YOU ROCK.

  • @BDUBZ49
    @BDUBZ49 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was always intrigued by the Crossfire.... an American version of a European roadster. I always wondered - Cool design, but how does it drive? I've seen several reviews on them... all of them were mixed. Ed, nice to see you get some screen time for a change. The camera loves you! 😀

  • @jm2437
    @jm2437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah! Ed's gonna tell us about ALL the quirks and features up in here!

  • @jameshicks914
    @jameshicks914 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2008 Saturn Sky---so I understand your feelings on the "cruiser". Novelty car--yes!!

  • @boozetruther
    @boozetruther ปีที่แล้ว

    Ed I have followed you for some time now and it's been fun watching you develop, This was your funniest with a euro-demuro flavour! keep it up homie!

  • @markwilliams2620
    @markwilliams2620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "A friggin Crossfire..".
    Yep. Says it all.
    As my uncle, who worked for Chrysler's for 40+ years put it..."How do you say Daimler-Chrysler?
    Daimler.".

  • @YosiFrancos
    @YosiFrancos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. Really entertained me.
    Hope you didn't hurt yourself in that crash.

  • @davidrobertnewman
    @davidrobertnewman ปีที่แล้ว

    Much happier to watch this honest appraisal than a video about the great cars Chrysler has made this century; that video would be 13:19 shorter.

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I quite like the styling of the hardtop version.

  • @munecaeburro
    @munecaeburro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Crossfire is the kind of car everybody tells me not to buy, and I still want to buy

  • @oldcarbear503
    @oldcarbear503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should look for a 2003-2005 Ford Thunderbird. Jaguar platform (including engine), so parts should not be a problem over there. Certainly will have the boulevard ride you want.

  • @jrf607
    @jrf607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a 2004 Crossfire, and that " satin nickel finish " or whatever they called it was HORRIBLE. It was so bad in fact that, it was peeling on my driver door pull, and I had sliced my fingers open a couple times before I finally gave up and used electrical tape around the doorpull. That being said, it was a super fun, unique interesting car, and I really enjoyed it. Mostly because it was rare to see another one.

    • @mrjuvy49
      @mrjuvy49 ปีที่แล้ว

      My right handle came off, the ashtray I had to super glue it shut the tires wore out too soon, but I had for 12 years.

  • @roberthoffhines5419
    @roberthoffhines5419 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always thought the strakes in the hood hearken back to the 1930-whatever Chrysler Airflow. There is an air of Art Deco about the aesthetic...particularly the font of the "Crossfire" badge. And after all, they DID build The Chrysler Building.

  • @Midtable1881
    @Midtable1881 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s the all American roadster! Except for the parts that aren’t which is most of it.
    Love the Crossfire, and it’s a good choice Ed! Bold given others would choose stuff like the Z4, TT roadster, Boxster and countless MX-5s.

  • @kellingtonlink956
    @kellingtonlink956 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Very observational impressions. Good luck! I hope you enjoy it… for what it is. Cheers.

  • @jaspal666
    @jaspal666 ปีที่แล้ว

    That clip from Arthur Brown Fire…
    I saw Arthur Brown in concert 4 yrs ago with Emerson Lake and Palmer.
    I totally forgot I’d seen that show until your video😂😂 Man, I was hammered!
    Also, interesting video.

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looked at this car in Australia back in 2005. The price was so out of touch with the competition the cars rotted away on the forecourt until they were trucked back to Brisbane. Kias interiors looked more upmarket.

  • @danie535
    @danie535 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎉congratulations Ed that’s a nice car !

  • @malekmo64
    @malekmo64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ed, love your choice of Crazy World Of Arthur Brown, Fire. No, Carl Palmer was not on the version we all hear on the radio but yes he was on the video version wearing something from the future by Slipknot 😂 and took Arthur Brown's keyboard player Vincent Crane to form Atomic Rooster and Emerson Lake and Palmer arrived sometime later 😅

  • @98erics
    @98erics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I see a Chrysler Crossfire I am forced to sing that song from the commercial for the game Crossfire in the 90's. It was a dumb game but a had catchy commercial where the only lyric was "Crossfire" then a slightly higher pitch "CrossFiiiieeerrrrrrr!!!!"

  • @samuelajones
    @samuelajones 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite car. I love that it is an Slk, and that Dyson designed it

  • @expo4266
    @expo4266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned to drive on a dodge magnum, (a chrysler 300 wagon) and every other car I have driven either had the cruise on the wheel, or no cruse at all. I never knew the setup was strange until now.
    That being said, I think you would like the chrysler 300 as a car. It has slightly less interior shortcomings, rides like a cloud, and has all the power in the world (with the V8) And it was cheap!
    Great review, look forward to more in the future.

    • @compassioncampaigner728
      @compassioncampaigner728 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait.
      U learned on a Magnum?
      For me....there is no car that rings my bell like a Magnum for cool good looks.
      I had 2 black ones. What color was yours?

    • @expo4266
      @expo4266 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a silver 2005 R/T, my dad bought new and has dailyd it for the past 17 years. I've bought my own car now, not nearly as fast as the magnum.

  • @chrisroth4952
    @chrisroth4952 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the on-camera style. Enjoyed it.

  • @scatan6922
    @scatan6922 ปีที่แล้ว

    This, the first gen Mercedes CLS and the 90s Jag XK8s were my favorite cars growing up. I definitely have a thing for smooth lines

  • @yukilabrador7219
    @yukilabrador7219 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Crossfire Roadster for a few years (in our Dutch climate) and I really LOVED it during Summer. Never saw so many thumbs up, although before that I drove a Ford Cougar and after that a Infiniti EX3.7.
    But during Winter the Crossfire was and absolute disaster. In snowy conditions it wouldn’t even leave the parking spot. 😂

  • @scottastell9415
    @scottastell9415 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Chrysler old style bonnet badge is cool. A positive!

  • @person.w9780
    @person.w9780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is definitely one of the cars of all time.

  • @130rapid
    @130rapid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In two words - stinky Backfire.
    They say the deepest emotion is a combination of love & hate. :D

  • @CommanderTycho
    @CommanderTycho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the SRT-6 one and it's honestly been really good to me. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it.

  • @jonas1015119
    @jonas1015119 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad is retiring this year and accordingly bought a Crossfire a few months ago. I'm not sure why, but at least he got it for half of what they usually sell for. The first time I sat in it I immediately opened the cup holder by accident. Its also quite a snug fit for tall people.

  • @larryfine6865
    @larryfine6865 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get a Tesla! I have 2. I owned lots of cool cars as a young man for instance 1st car at 16 was 79’ Celica, 2nd car at 18 was 72’ 240Z 3rd Datsun 69’ 2000 Roadster. A bunch of my former and current cars are in the Pedersen Auto Museum in So Cal. If you haven’t been there please do yourself a favor. I love your Channel. Keep up the great work. Thank you Ed✌🏻

  • @johndupreeiii9736
    @johndupreeiii9736 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:23 You Ok Ed? Self confidence issues at all? lmao Great vid, been a sub since you started out with your history series. Keep it up Ed!

  • @that_jamesguy
    @that_jamesguy ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Ed, please do more of these!

  • @petere8175
    @petere8175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Original Dutch delivered, cool car! In red with the manual is my dream :D

  • @truthsayers8725
    @truthsayers8725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you said EVERYTHING that needed to be said at 1:24 of the video.
    i had just started my 3rd year in Chrysler Corporation when out of the blue, everyone in the plant (i worked in a tool and die build plant) was herded to the cafeteria and were subjected to a dog and pony show that at first glance looked as if things might be good! part of the daimler benz organization. it didnt take long to realize that our $9 Billion dollar cash reserves were converted into Deutsche Marks and we were left holding the bag of left over parts and designs. the next 9 years were tough. then being dumped off to the venture capitalists at Cerberus. then spun off to 'New Chrysler' or whatever they called it and then bankruptcy where Obama forced us to partner with Fiat. then FCA merged with PSA in France and be part of Stellantis...
    i wish Bob Eaton had never met Schremp....

  • @rx6180
    @rx6180 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of the things you don’t like are pure Mercedes-Benz of the period. I used to own a 1999 C-Class saloon. It had the red-white-blue climate temperature dials with no numbers. It had the same turn signal and cruise control stalks with the wipers switched by twisting the end of the turn signal stalk. I found them easy to use. I much preferred the cruise control stalk to steering wheel buttons on everything I drive now. The transmission W/S setting is pure Mercedes-Benz. According to the driver’s manual I had, S is ‘Standard’ and uses all five gears. W is ‘Winter’ and deletes 1st gear so you start off in 2nd gear, supposedly to reduce wheel spin on ice and soft snow.

  • @terrygorman5810
    @terrygorman5810 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ed, I've never seen you exasperated like this before. But this is a personal review and not a general overview on a type or era.I would say serves you right for buying a Crossfire. But I too have owned some 'gems' in my time, and feel your pain.
    Big fan and subscriber of yours from California.🚗🛻

  • @williammaceri8244
    @williammaceri8244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Edward, I watched all your reviews earlier in the year. But today I found the Chrysler Crossfire that I have wanted to know more about, so thanks. I had a partner that bought one in 2004,or 5 model year. When he would park it in my driveway it looked very cool. I knew it was a Chrysler so I felt I had to like it, out of respect for Chrysler. But I did end up liking it. And In all the financial issues Chrysler was struggling with, I was proud of Chrysler for building a sports car like this. I never drove it, but road in it a few times. I found it to be a nice car with good handling, and I had gotten used to the fact, our American cars were much different from what they once were. So one could say our standards were lower. The parts you pointed out were spot on. It looked good out and in side. However, the the lower level of the interior trim was obviously below Chrysler's standards. The cars had a certain sporty presence. By that time I was more of a Ford man, so I couldn't see myself buying one. In any event I couldn't justify owning one. I will tell you, I learned a few things I didn't know about the car, so I thank you Edward for your review.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always liked the styling on these and the colour is lovely. It looks in good condition. I just hope it doesn’t rot away like the Mk1 SLK, I have never seen so many really rotten ones. And the interior is really bad for quality. It’s such a shame. I totally get why you got it for the design. Great review

  • @taridean
    @taridean ปีที่แล้ว

    The clay and cad modellers in the design studio must have had a lot of fun sculpting the sufaces on that car. Fillets and washouts galore.

  • @thedispenser8301
    @thedispenser8301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome review!

  • @DBEdwards
    @DBEdwards ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reminds me of Hermann Goerings 1937 Mercedes 16 roadster, without the elegance and craft

  • @mtozzy11
    @mtozzy11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My ex had one from new, put 30,000kms in 3 years then traded it for a R32 Golf. The interior was cheap and rattly, although I didn't mind the seats it had the tan interior. The thing could be a handful in the wet if you were trying to hustle it. The transmission was slow and kinda clunky, it was rather thirsty too. But if the weather was right and road was flowing it was nice. Didn't mind driving actually rather liked but was happy to get back in my VW Bora V6 4motion which didn't feel cheap was comfortable and actually handled well.

  • @JK061996
    @JK061996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Crossfire was my attainable dream car as a child

  • @andreistoica2994
    @andreistoica2994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed it. Keep them coming

  • @louiscwb
    @louiscwb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your videos. And I really woud like to see a video about the last Chryslers models before the Daimler era. Like the Cirrus, the neon and the 300m. They were really interesting and also aheady of their time in many ways. They could also be described as the last eford of the American giant to be competitive againt the Germans... just before being ironically "swallowed" by them!

    • @augustneverends
      @augustneverends ปีที่แล้ว

      Chrysler did have some interesting innovations like cab forward design but their quality was pretty uniformly awful for most of latter half of the 20th century, it only got progressively worse from the K Cars onward.

  • @JeffFrmJoisey
    @JeffFrmJoisey ปีที่แล้ว

    Chrysler products have had cheap, plasticy looking dashboards/instrument panels since 1968.
    But, I always loved the look of the back of the Crossfire hatchback, it was classic and different.

  • @mikeb620
    @mikeb620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Crossfire is the same as the Pontiac Solstice/Saturn whatever the hell its called. its a lukewarm attempt to sell a car to the boomer generation of when they had "hot rods" "coupes". it wasn't anything special. Great vid Ed! Been watching for years!

    • @jakekaywell5972
      @jakekaywell5972 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saturn Sky. Also, unlike the Crossfire, the Solstice/Sky were acually decent cars. Stacked up well to the NC Miatas of the era.

  • @2_Cents.
    @2_Cents. ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup, sums it up. Dad has had an 06' automatic since new. 100+k mi odo. Roof actuators need replaced; doesn't retract. Spoiler actuators recently also stopped functioning; won't retract. Head gasket needed replaced around 80k. Blower motor doesn't work properly since 70k. TPMS sensors stopped communicating with computer almost a decade ago. They have been replaced but still light remains on; none of the local tire shops can get it corrected. So, yeah, expect expensive shop bills if you want one

  • @MrJayrock620
    @MrJayrock620 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:00 one thing not a lot of people know is that with most Chryslers you can turn off the traction control but not the stability control. Only on the SRT’s can both be turned off

  • @davidjames2910
    @davidjames2910 ปีที่แล้ว

    The review is good and the discussion of hotness made me laugh

  • @bobbysenterprises3220
    @bobbysenterprises3220 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was actually thinking this would be a more sensible daily driver than my Alante. Starting to rethink that. Sounds so much the same

  • @keiththompson9575
    @keiththompson9575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ed, making fun of American cars? It's well deserved and more than a charitable and honest criticism along with valid observations. Is it any wonder there was a slump in the American auto industry. As a friend of mine 40 years ago (who owned a Mercedes and Peugeot), said, "Europeans look at American cars and just shake their heads and laugh." The European designers allowed form to follow function--like the innovative taillights on the Mercedes that had recessed "hills and valleys". It was explained to me that this was a nod to safety during inclement weather where the recessed part of the light itself was protected by the "hills" thereby insuring that the lamp would still carry a brightness that a standard flat lamp couldn't offer. The "Detroit irons" were descriptive of an era that became obsessed with overdesign, excess chrome, new design every two years, and more time spent worrying about where to place the opera windows than safety and efficiency. My family always drove Buicks as far back as 1949. I have owned Buick, Oldsmobile, VW Rabbit, and several Cadillacs. I'm glad that I replaced my DTS with a Toyota Avalon XLS. Great car, less expensive to operate, and will far outlast the most recent Cadillac that I owned (I loved the car but when something went wrong the costs to repair were nothing short of confiscatory).