Very helpful, Steve. Thank you for posting. When I first tried that same type of dolly 3 times, it folded and collapsed 3 times. And no instructions came with mine. I felt like taking a sledge hammer to smash it, and to then go beat up the maker. Smiles. But I scanned through 10 YT vids to pick up as many tips as possible for max efficiency. Here's what I found and added myself: 1. Put the dolly on the ground beside the middle of the yak, but at an angle so that when we swing (not lift) the yak onto it, the yak and dolly will be aligned with each other already. One vid said the stand should face towards the front of the yak, assuming you are going to pull it from the front like most seem to do. Not sure about that. Having the cart around the middle of the boat makes it more balanced and lighter to pull as well. 2. Go to both the back and front of the yak and tilt it up to look along under it from each end to see that the yak is centred. If not, wiggle/jiggle it into center position. 4. I only got one strap with mine. Put the unbuckled end of the supplied strap under and over a bar on the dolly that goes directly to the wheel (wheel bar) and pull it over the top of the boat to the other side and put it over and under the bar that goes to that wheel also. Pull that unbuckled end up towards the buckle and get it as tight as you can by both pulling the strap end and pushing the buckle. I also run each of 2 bungee cords from the wheel bar on each side and up over the boat to a d-ring on the other side of the boat. But just the strap or only the bungee cords did work by themselves. But a couple of vids, including Steve's here, suggested having a 4-point attachment on the cart for the strap. It seems to work very well. 5. Push the stand back onto the frame of the dolly from whichever side of the boat is tilted up so that the stand cannot catch something on the ground and trip the dolly to collapse. But that possibility may indicate that the stand should be at the back, not front, as Steve did here. Good to go. Oh, and practice at home in your yard two or three times so you aren't the Charlie Chaplin-like mug on the beach getting videod by someone for international YT entertainment as you struggle with it for an hour. I hope this also helps. If any of you have any other tips to better or perfect this, I'm all ears and can we all help each other here. Happy yaking!
I used this to secure my 14 foot kayak to a cart, and then towed it with a bicycle. Was able to do hills, make u-turns, hit bumps and go up curbs. It never shifted! Fantastic video; thanks for sharing :)
My cart had the same useless instructions. Your method worked for me on the way out, but forgot the method by the return trip so actually just asked someone to help carry. Upcoming outing tomorrow, am preparing by watching again, hope not to forget. Thanks for making this video!
It worked excellently and my BF was impressed. Once you do it, you know why other methods don’t work. Key element is to run strap through handles / deck bungees so it doesn’t slide to end of kayak. Many thanks!!!
Very helpful. I just bought an Eckland Kayak cart made in Germany. I couldn’t figure out the best way to connect and your video really helped. Ive already connected and works fantastic. Thanks again.
I use the same cart but I attached two wood dowels with pool noodles as a cross section. This fits perfectly into the bottom gunnels of the kayak without the need for straps. I then bungee it to the back of the yak for storage. The pool noodles have a good grip and won't pop out over rough terrain. The dowels are fixed with cable ties as an x brace. this keeps it self adjusting while it adjusts the angle going into the grooves of the kayak on the bottom.
Beautiful! I had been only tying mine with 2 points of contact like in most videos. This is so much better! Thank you! Gonna try it this afternoon! ❤️💪🏻👍🏻
Thanks so much as I got this cart yesterday and like it but I had trouble with it as well, I have the lifetime yukon 116 and they don't show you how to strap it in the instructions, thank you for your time!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Glad it was helpful! Many people tried this trick, and it works, check out the comment section. Something similar would work as well, good luck!
My carrt came with 2 ratchet straps and 2 tie straps. ZERO instructions.😅 I figured it out and tied it down. The cart collapsed.😅 Then one of the ratchets wouldn't loosen. I'm done. Going to the store to get a 15' CAM strap and give this a go. Thanks so much!
This is the video I've been looking for thank you a lot, my cart keeps coming off I could never find the proper way to strap it I'm going to try your method four point thanks !
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Very handy video but my kayak doesn't have side handles to go through. Any suggestions for strapping down a sit inside kayak that does not have side handles? Mine is a Wilderness Aspire 105.
That’s a good question. I took a look at your kayak online couldn’t come up with any great ideas… I would firstly try tighten it down with the 4 point method, maybe it’s good enough when tight enough? Good luck!
I’m glad I’m Not the only one.. does anyone know the specifics on the strap he uses or something that worked for themselves? Specifically the length of and width of the strap. I’ll just use the one it came with as support but I might need even two for this hill
This is a good solution but unless you have long portages over rough, hilly or uneven terrain, it seems a bit overkill. I use a similar strap system on the PVC cart I created but I cut the strap in half and permanently attached each "cut" end to a rail on opposing sides of the cart. When the kayak is placed on the cart, it takes all of 5 seconds to simply pull each strap over the top and snap the buckle - just like putting on your seatbelt. It may not survive a tornado, but it easily gets my kayak from my truck to the water each and every time. The headline does say for a "ROUGH road" so I'll just add that I've had mine topple over sideways on occasion and when it did, was still securely attached to the cart so I simply set it upright to continue. I continue to be dumbfounded by the diminished capabilities of people to figure anything out anymore. I think if you need a video to know how to strap something down, you probably shouldn't be hauling those items.
@@SteveChenFishing I also have trouble centering the kayak while trying to strap it down.. The kayak wants to lean left or right because the bottom is not level. So that is a challenge if you don’t have someone to hold it straight while your trying to strap it down.
I love your tie down method. Unfortunately I don’t have the handles on the side of mine as a connection point in addition to not being level on the bottom.
@@cindybeavers6127 yea that's a challenge. If you have V shape bottom, it's challenging. Very sorry to hear that. The only chance I can think of to tie such a kayak without handles, is when you have a very good fit between the cart and your kayak. Maybe look for a V shape kayak cart?
if you want to try this one? amzn.to/3TjNrzg or if you need a kit, this is the one I'm using. www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/field-and-stream-deluxe-kayak-carrier-kit-20qyfudlxkykblckkpsr/20qyfudlxkykblckkpsr
Good Video, now show that working on a steep shelving pebble beach, both getting it down there and back again. Thanks for posting but easy surfaces such as these are easy.
@@SteveChenFishing oh man. so happy I found your video. my kayak cart keeps tipping over, so embarrassing. I can't seem to make it stay. I am going to try your method and I hope it works for me too.
@@86kamehameha Yea glad to hear that. Hope it works. It did work for me for some really rough road...In this way, the cart would rather flip with the kayak, than detach from it.
Your Wal-Mart clone of like-minded carts has a wheel size too small for my Salish Sea beach stones and brush snags have pulled off more than a pair of your wheel quick release. I bolt my wheels on using a locking washer under the nut. Moreover I built my cart using junk abandoned by others. Using hand and power tools.
Very helpful, Steve. Thank you for posting. When I first tried that same type of dolly 3 times, it folded and collapsed 3 times. And no instructions came with mine. I felt like taking a sledge hammer to smash it, and to then go beat up the maker. Smiles. But I scanned through 10 YT vids to pick up as many tips as possible for max efficiency. Here's what I found and added myself:
1. Put the dolly on the ground beside the middle of the yak, but at an angle so that when we swing (not lift) the yak onto it, the yak and dolly will be aligned with each other already. One vid said the stand should face towards the front of the yak, assuming you are going to pull it from the front like most seem to do. Not sure about that. Having the cart around the middle of the boat makes it more balanced and lighter to pull as well.
2. Go to both the back and front of the yak and tilt it up to look along under it from each end to see that the yak is centred. If not, wiggle/jiggle it into center position.
4. I only got one strap with mine. Put the unbuckled end of the supplied strap under and over a bar on the dolly that goes directly to the wheel (wheel bar) and pull it over the top of the boat to the other side and put it over and under the bar that goes to that wheel also. Pull that unbuckled end up towards the buckle and get it as tight as you can by both pulling the strap end and pushing the buckle. I also run each of 2 bungee cords from the wheel bar on each side and up over the boat to a d-ring on the other side of the boat. But just the strap or only the bungee cords did work by themselves.
But a couple of vids, including Steve's here, suggested having a 4-point attachment on the cart for the strap. It seems to work very well.
5. Push the stand back onto the frame of the dolly from whichever side of the boat is tilted up so that the stand cannot catch something on the ground and trip the dolly to collapse. But that possibility may indicate that the stand should be at the back, not front, as Steve did here. Good to go.
Oh, and practice at home in your yard two or three times so you aren't the Charlie Chaplin-like mug on the beach getting videod by someone for international YT entertainment as you struggle with it for an hour. I hope this also helps. If any of you have any other tips to better or perfect this, I'm all ears and can we all help each other here.
Happy yaking!
Wow thx this is so much valuable info. I just pinned your comment! Enjoy yaking!
Thank you, I was struggling using mine.
Hope it works well for you!
I used this to secure my 14 foot kayak to a cart, and then towed it with a bicycle. Was able to do hills, make u-turns, hit bumps and go up curbs. It never shifted! Fantastic video; thanks for sharing :)
Great to hear it works! Cheers!
My cart had the same useless instructions. Your method worked for me on the way out, but forgot the method by the return trip so actually just asked someone to help carry. Upcoming outing tomorrow, am preparing by watching again, hope not to forget. Thanks for making this video!
So glad to hear it worked for you! Enjoy your next trip!
It worked excellently and my BF was impressed. Once you do it, you know why other methods don’t work. Key element is to run strap through handles / deck bungees so it doesn’t slide to end of kayak. Many thanks!!!
@@amiyamura9010 Yea you got all the key elements!!!😆
Very helpful. I just bought an Eckland Kayak cart made in Germany. I couldn’t figure out the best way to connect and your video really helped. Ive already connected and works fantastic. Thanks again.
Glad it helped!
I use the same cart but I attached two wood dowels with pool noodles as a cross section. This fits perfectly into the bottom gunnels of the kayak without the need for straps. I then bungee it to the back of the yak for storage. The pool noodles have a good grip and won't pop out over rough terrain. The dowels are fixed with cable ties as an x brace. this keeps it self adjusting while it adjusts the angle going into the grooves of the kayak on the bottom.
I think you may shoot a video of it, feels so good your design.
I just took my first kayak out today and used your method ....worked perfectly! THANK YOU!
Glad it helped! Cheers!
Beautiful! I had been only tying mine with 2 points of contact like in most videos. This is so much better! Thank you! Gonna try it this afternoon! ❤️💪🏻👍🏻
Glad it helps! Let me know if it works for you 😁
thanks, very instructional and functional tips for those who pull through rough terrain
Thanks for watching bro! It took me a while to figure out this method for rough terrains 😎
Awesome video .... Will definitely be trying this technique......was all over the place last time with 2 points of contact
Been there, very painful and frustrated in the woods🤣
Thank you!!! I've been struggling with my wheels folding up in me with every bump! I'll try this
Thx for watching! Hopefully it works for you 😎
Thank you for the four-point contact. I have those Straps that you used. Nice angle and demonstration work .
Thanks for watching! Glad to be helpful. I did struggle in the woods dragging my kayak before figuring this out🤣
awesome tip man definitely helped me take my kayak across sand and mountain terrain
Great to know it works for you!!!
Very helpful!
Thanks for sharing!
Thx for watching, glad to be helpful 😎
I really struggled to get my new kayak attached to the same kind of cart today. I'll definitely try this technique!
Been there. I have been very happy since switched to the 4 point method😄
Thanks so much as I got this cart yesterday and like it but I had trouble with it as well, I have the lifetime yukon 116 and they don't show you how to strap it in the instructions, thank you for your time!
Glad you find it helpful 😎 enjoy your kayak!!!
Thanks for the video. I appreciate you taking the time to make it. I dont have the same setup but it opened my eyes up!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Glad it was helpful! Many people tried this trick, and it works, check out the comment section. Something similar would work as well, good luck!
My carrt came with 2 ratchet straps and 2 tie straps. ZERO instructions.😅 I figured it out and tied it down. The cart collapsed.😅 Then one of the ratchets wouldn't loosen. I'm done. Going to the store to get a 15' CAM strap and give this a go. Thanks so much!
Good luck bro! Hope it works for you!
Fantastic, thank you! This is the stuff YT should promote!
Thanks for watching! I thought this could be helpful 😎😎😎
You saved me much aggravation, thank you!
Always glad to be helpful, thx for watching!
Thanks for the tip, looking forward to trying it out next weekend. Had the same issues.
Thanks for watching! Pls let me know whether it works for you!
This is the video I've been looking for thank you a lot, my cart keeps coming off I could never find the proper way to strap it I'm going to try your method four point thanks !
Thanks glad it helps! Let me know if it works for you!
@@SteveChenFishing I surely will !
Steve it would help if u tell me the lenth of the strap that you have i want to buy the right one ! Thanks
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Thank you very much for the method, and the video
Thanks for watching bro!!!
Thank you for your helpful video. How long is your strap?
Hi thx for watching. I believe it’s about 16 ft long.
Very handy video but my kayak doesn't have side handles to go through. Any suggestions for strapping down a sit inside kayak that does not have side handles? Mine is a Wilderness Aspire 105.
That’s a good question. I took a look at your kayak online couldn’t come up with any great ideas… I would firstly try tighten it down with the 4 point method, maybe it’s good enough when tight enough? Good luck!
Thank you so much! I have that exact cart! I will try that!!!
Thanks for watching! Hope it works!!!
Very good job! Thanks!
Thx for watching!!!
Thanks for posting about 4-point been having horrible time with mine
Thanks for watching! It took me a while to figure this out for rough roads🤣
Good stuff man. Thanks!
Thx for watching bro😎
Thank you!!! I will definitely give this a try
Thanks for watching! Hope it works for you!
Thanks for the advise!
Thanks for watching, hope it works for you!
Great job. Thanks for the tip😊
Thx for watching bro. 😎
I’m glad I’m
Not the only one.. does anyone know the specifics on the strap he uses or something that worked for themselves? Specifically the length of and width of the strap. I’ll just use the one it came with as support but I might need even two for this hill
Hi there, it's 1 inch wide, and about 15 ft long, hope it helps. Thx for watching!
This is a good solution but unless you have long portages over rough, hilly or uneven terrain, it seems a bit overkill. I use a similar strap system on the PVC cart I created but I cut the strap in half and permanently attached each "cut" end to a rail on opposing sides of the cart. When the kayak is placed on the cart, it takes all of 5 seconds to simply pull each strap over the top and snap the buckle - just like putting on your seatbelt. It may not survive a tornado, but it easily gets my kayak from my truck to the water each and every time.
The headline does say for a "ROUGH road" so I'll just add that I've had mine topple over sideways on occasion and when it did, was still securely attached to the cart so I simply set it upright to continue. I continue to be dumbfounded by the diminished capabilities of people to figure anything out anymore. I think if you need a video to know how to strap something down, you probably shouldn't be hauling those items.
agree that this might be an overkill haha 😎
Good job.
Thanks bro! 😎
Is the strap you used the same length as the the manufacturer strap
I used a strap for kayak on car roof. It’s about 15 ft long.
@@SteveChenFishing I also have trouble centering the kayak while trying to strap it down.. The kayak wants to lean left or right because the bottom is not level. So that is a challenge if you don’t have someone to hold it straight while your trying to strap it down.
I love your tie down method. Unfortunately I don’t have the handles on the side of mine as a connection point in addition to not being level on the bottom.
@@cindybeavers6127 yea that's a challenge. If you have V shape bottom, it's challenging. Very sorry to hear that. The only chance I can think of to tie such a kayak without handles, is when you have a very good fit between the cart and your kayak. Maybe look for a V shape kayak cart?
thank you very strong tiedown.
Thx hope it works for you!
my kayak does not have hold straps, any suggestions.
if you want to try this one?
amzn.to/3TjNrzg
or if you need a kit, this is the one I'm using.
www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/field-and-stream-deluxe-kayak-carrier-kit-20qyfudlxkykblckkpsr/20qyfudlxkykblckkpsr
Good Video, now show that working on a steep shelving pebble beach, both getting it down there and back again. Thanks for posting but easy surfaces such as these are easy.
Good suggestion, let me try maybe next year. Thx for watching!
Thank you, 👍
Thx for watching! Happy holidays!
Good idea, thank's for a tip🙏😊
No problem. Hope it works well for you!
thx for your video and demo, Steve. going to use exact same dolly. just wondering how to move my kayak.
Thx for watching! Enjoy kayaking
Nice, Thank you 💪😎
Thx for watching. Hope it works 😎
What is the name for the strap
Good question, it’s part of the Dicks Kayak foam roof rack package
What if you have no handles!
Give it a try, it may still work as good.
How long is your strap?
About 14 ft
@@SteveChenFishing oh man. so happy I found your video. my kayak cart keeps tipping over, so embarrassing. I can't seem to make it stay. I am going to try your method and I hope it works for me too.
@@86kamehameha Yea glad to hear that. Hope it works. It did work for me for some really rough road...In this way, the cart would rather flip with the kayak, than detach from it.
I’m not sure FULLY LOADED (battery, motor etc..) that it would be secure enough with those straps. Anyone try yet?
This strap is the one I use to tie my kayak on the roof of my car, I guess it should be ok?
Cheers bro
Cheers!
Your Wal-Mart clone of like-minded carts has a wheel size
too small for my Salish Sea beach stones and brush snags
have pulled off more than a pair of your wheel quick release.
I bolt my wheels on using a locking washer under the nut.
Moreover I built my cart using junk abandoned by others.
Using hand and power tools.
Good job! Glad that you figured it out by yourself!
Excellent ! Thanks for sharing
Thx for watching! Hope it helps 😎
How long is your strap??
Hi there, it's 1 inch wide, and about 15 ft long, hope it helps. Thx for watching!