All these dont's are not what I wanted to hear, but definitely good to know. My main issue is with the fact that aggressive driving has an impact on long-term battery health. I recently heard the same thing regarding fully electric vehicles. I like a little spirited driving on occasion.
Really great video! My 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid recently rolled past 200k miles. My Dr. Prius app on my phone can read some of the hybrid battery values and includes a simple hybrid battery health check. Mine still tests as good but I plan to replace the battery whenever it finally needs replacement. I'm curious how much a battery costs (battery only) on a 1st gen Highlander Hybrid?
I saw a video where a person showed how to replace all the cells (new cells) in a Prius traction battery for under $2000. Then return the old ones (probably a core charge).
Would be neat for the gen 2 Priuses to have a bluetooth add on BMS that can plug in an open source app with a dedicated smartphone or screen so can parallel a second battery in of course with a dedicated fan and ducting. Seems can even do a more simple plug in hybrid system upgrade with a lithium or sodium or other battery pack voltage range spec and a diode pack inline with the wiring to the contactor so only can be discharged and not charged other than when plugged in. Great video and advice! Seems so rare to see something Prius related from Toyota, other than the newer vehicles maybe.
wondering what is difference between idling and actually driving vehicle in terms of battery wear. Wouldn’t idling be less taxing on the electrical system vs driving and using electric motors
🌲🌴🧜🏽 In a 70,000 population, our one Toyota dealer has one mechanic who knows like my 2010 Gen3. I had a disaster of a back seat in the Virgin Islands during my long ownership. We went through a replacement on warranty. Now it needs it again. I am struggling with a new ⚠️CheckHybridSystem but this has been after two visits to the dealer (it went away for two days) and ONE YEAR. Dealer says new 5K batter plus expensive shipping and a TrumpTariff now? . I have vented the back seat and trunk to the max. Will vent it more now. Keep A Cool Yule, y’all. & 🎉Thanks Ali.
Thank u Ali and Jeff for this great video and tips. Can u please do a part 2 for tips and also include and charging related tips best practices. And I have a question: is it okay to keep the charging cable plugged in (for plug in hybrid) even after vehicle has completed charging and is just parked? Also same question but if vehicle is parked out of the garage in colder winter (snow) weather? Thanks, appreciate it.
I have a hybrid tundra. How long can I safely store the car in a garage when I’m traveling before the battery (either 12V or hybrid battery) will discharge and I’ll have to get a jump start
I have kind of a strange question... I'm about to buy my first Hybrid (Toyota Corolla). During Hurricane Helene, I lost electricity for a week. I would use my car to charge the battery on my cell phone about once a day. Would that be feasible with a Hybrid? I mean, if it was just sitting still, charging my cell phone? Or would I need to actually drive around to keep everything functioning properly? Thanks so much.
@@thatkat31 Strange question indeed. The answer is yes as long as you have your battery above minimum. Mobile phones need very little energy. Wouldn't it be better (more relaxing, lower perceived risk etc.) to purchase a cheap electricity bank?
@@codincoman9019 I had one. Unfortunately, with no electricity, it got drained quickly. It was solar powered, too, but took forever to charge in sunlight. And my phone took hours to charge on it. I've since bought another one so one could charge outside during the day while the other one was being used in case this ever happens again, but nothing compared to the quickness of charging in the car.
I have 2022 toyota Highlander hybrid and 30k miles on it and its annoying the crap out of me However it gets me 150-250 extra miles per tank compared to regular Highlander. But i still want to trade this in and get a regular engine car since this have really kept the value, fyi it has only lost 20% of the value of when it was new
No one brings up the fact that the EPA range is based on charging to 100%, therefore it's misleading since lithium ion batteries can't be routinely charged all the way.
@@rkgsd. Hybrids carry the energy in liquid fuel. So range is liquid fuel limited. And the main traction battery can be a nickel battery for good power performance. Don't need lithium and its good energy performance.
My experience is once you start seeing 100% all green bars, expect something with the HV battery like a module to go bad in the next 6-8 months. I also like running Hybrid Assistant with a dedicated smart phone most all the time, especially during warm weather with the HV battery fan set to the lowest setting so to turn on the fan for better battery cooling versus the stock quiet mode controls. Torque is supposed to be better for controlling the fan as well. Dr Prius or like the Autel cheap bluetooth OBD2 adapters can provide insight into which module block is going bad so can let the pack sit once you measure after removing so to see which module discharges at the higher rate and or doesn't hold charge due to the bad cell in the module.
Save a little gasoline. Replace more turbos. Decarbon the direct injection engines occasionally. Change the oil more often (oil dilution) or replace engine occasionally. Discard EV if collision results in small dent in the traction battery. Is this stuff really better for the planet?
These Toyota hybrids are electric cars with gasoline engine assist. No annoying start/stop system needed. The gasoline assist engine only runs when needed or to warm up.
@codincoman9019 . You are sort of correct for speeds above 45 mph. The 2 electric motors manipulate the gasoline engine using the planetary gearset to make it do all the work at the most efficient rpm and load. What I wrote is totally correct for speeds below 45 mph. The main traction motor propells the vehicle through a direct drive (the same as most battery electric cars). Gasoline engine assist is provided through the planetary gearset if acceleration beyond the capability of the traction motor is requested. The gasoline assist engine also runs to warm up and if the traction battery needs some additional charge.
@@dannybryant6873 You are mostly correct for the city driving. But even then, my Lexus hybrid uses the hybrid battery at most for a few minutes/miles, making the EV mode to be in use at most 25% (I'm exxagerating, ofc) of the time, if you drive in a specific way. Because the intention behind the self-charging hybrids (invented by Honda and Toyota more than two decades ago, "in parallel") was to save fuel, not to be primary electric (thus the wrong label of HEV - to manipulate the EV statistics for the benefit of the BEV, mandated by the WEF [globalist "elites" interface] through the political puppets they own all around the world). And you know very well that the electric part is saving the kinetic energy (otherwise lost in ICE cars - when braking/coasting downhill - by dissipating the heat created by the friction that destroys faster the brake pads, rotors etc.) through the regenerative braking, to be used later for starts, initial or high accelerations etc. That's why the SCH purpose is best achieved in cities and hilly areas, helping save lots of fuel, while during long trips outside cities, on flat roads is almost useless. The ECVT merit is also important for the overall savings (including the absence of the starter, alternator etc., partially offsetting the expense with the hybrid system) and for the biggest reliability among car segments (proven by CR statistics), helpings achieve the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) too. So what is important for science-based people is that the SCH proves to be the best of both worlds (and my small statistics, with hundreds of Self-Charging Hybrids in car fleets, confirms the big savings). I guess we can agree on this.
@@codincoman9019 . Another big plus is allowing the use of an efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine so anytime the engine is running it is using less fuel than the Otto cycle regular engine. And at high altitudes the variable value timing probably adjusts back toward Otto cycle to keep more of the air fuel in the combustion chamber to maintain power. Almost like free forced induction.
@@dannybryant6873 Yes, good mentions. People not studying what SCHs are and having bad words about them are either die-hard petrol heads or EVangelists (but I would rather keep my amazing ICE cars - a Miata and a Jimny - than moving to a BRV or PHEV clunker). Both wrong, because they do not understand the way SCHs work, making them the best choice we have to lower cars impact on the planet. Of course, there are some disadvantages such as the polluting hybrid battery (but that is quite small vs. the large BEV batteries). And I am not referring to CO2 (that is not a pollutant, but trees' air). All the best!
Hybrids are awesome (thinking Toyota HSD). Great for what you don't get. No turbos. No GDI without port injection. No annoying start/stop system. No sleazy mechanical CVTs. No 11 speed torque converter automatics. No torque converter. No automated direct shift manual. No belts (accessory timing or Wet). No 12 Volt starter or alternator. No mechanically driven AC compressor (it's electric like your home refrigerator). Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks. Allows efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle gasoline assist engine for reduced fuel consumption. Allows regenerative braking for reduced brake components wear (and reduced fuel consumption). Nickel battery to avoid lithium concerns. Good stuff.
@@dannybryant6873Agree. But there are enough people knowing nothing about the self-charging hybrids, the best of both worlds. They have not analyzed the huge savings of a hybrid, more than covering the cost of replacing the hybrid battery (unlike the case of the BEV scam).
Well, post planned obsolescence the quote normal cars are also engineered to have a limited life cycle like say tires where are maybe 7 years or so. Some designed to rust and not be as easily serviced with more costs and some designed to last longer and cost less. EVs on the other hand seem more shady IMO at this time. With proper design though seems like a hydrodynamic bearing designed to last 1000 years or more, an EV might be able to be designed to last really long lifecycle like the greatest thinkers in the US from the 1800s who actually cared about quality with the longest lasting lifecycle to pass on the tools possibly for perpetuity and not war profiteering.
Let us know your questions about repair, service, and maintenance and we'll try to answer it in a future video! Thanks for Subscribing! Jeff
All these dont's are not what I wanted to hear, but definitely good to know. My main issue is with the fact that aggressive driving has an impact on long-term battery health. I recently heard the same thing regarding fully electric vehicles. I like a little spirited driving on occasion.
Thanks Ali for all the great tips!! And thanks Jeff for asking Ali for more and more tips!
I figured he had some more in him haha
Really great video! My 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid recently rolled past 200k miles. My Dr. Prius app on my phone can read some of the hybrid battery values and includes a simple hybrid battery health check. Mine still tests as good but I plan to replace the battery whenever it finally needs replacement. I'm curious how much a battery costs (battery only) on a 1st gen Highlander Hybrid?
I saw a video where a person showed how to replace all the cells (new cells) in a Prius traction battery for under $2000. Then return the old ones (probably a core charge).
Would be neat for the gen 2 Priuses to have a bluetooth add on BMS that can plug in an open source app with a dedicated smartphone or screen so can parallel a second battery in of course with a dedicated fan and ducting. Seems can even do a more simple plug in hybrid system upgrade with a lithium or sodium or other battery pack voltage range spec and a diode pack inline with the wiring to the contactor so only can be discharged and not charged other than when plugged in. Great video and advice! Seems so rare to see something Prius related from Toyota, other than the newer vehicles maybe.
wondering what is difference between idling and actually driving vehicle in terms of battery wear. Wouldn’t idling be less taxing on the electrical system vs driving and using electric motors
Great tips!
Thanks!
🌲🌴🧜🏽 In a 70,000 population, our one Toyota dealer has one mechanic who knows like my 2010 Gen3. I had a disaster of a back seat in the Virgin Islands during my long ownership. We went through a replacement on warranty. Now it needs it again. I am struggling with a new ⚠️CheckHybridSystem but this has been after two visits to the dealer (it went away for two days) and ONE YEAR. Dealer says new 5K batter plus expensive shipping and a TrumpTariff now? . I have vented the back seat and trunk to the max. Will vent it more now. Keep A Cool Yule, y’all. & 🎉Thanks Ali.
Thank u Ali and Jeff for this great video and tips.
Can u please do a part 2 for tips and also include and charging related tips best practices. And I have a question: is it okay to keep the charging cable plugged in (for plug in hybrid) even after vehicle has completed charging and is just parked? Also same question but if vehicle is parked out of the garage in colder winter (snow) weather?
Thanks, appreciate it.
I have a hybrid tundra. How long can I safely store the car in a garage when I’m traveling before the battery (either 12V or hybrid battery) will discharge and I’ll have to get a jump start
… replacing the 12 volt and keeping the old one w/ a cheap
Trickle charge the 12 Volt battery.
Hybrids do not starts with 12 volts battery, and you can not jump start them
I have kind of a strange question... I'm about to buy my first Hybrid (Toyota Corolla). During Hurricane Helene, I lost electricity for a week. I would use my car to charge the battery on my cell phone about once a day. Would that be feasible with a Hybrid? I mean, if it was just sitting still, charging my cell phone? Or would I need to actually drive around to keep everything functioning properly? Thanks so much.
@@thatkat31 Strange question indeed.
The answer is yes as long as you have your battery above minimum.
Mobile phones need very little energy.
Wouldn't it be better (more relaxing, lower perceived risk etc.) to purchase a cheap electricity bank?
@@codincoman9019 I had one. Unfortunately, with no electricity, it got drained quickly. It was solar powered, too, but took forever to charge in sunlight. And my phone took hours to charge on it. I've since bought another one so one could charge outside during the day while the other one was being used in case this ever happens again, but nothing compared to the quickness of charging in the car.
Yes, you can switch the car into Inspection mode so an engine can run as long as you have fuel in it
I have 2022 toyota Highlander hybrid and 30k miles on it and its annoying the crap out of me
However it gets me 150-250 extra miles per tank compared to regular Highlander.
But i still want to trade this in and get a regular engine car since this have really kept the value, fyi it has only lost 20% of the value of when it was new
Prius never will charge its battery to 80 + % no matter how much braking reserve you have
That 80% charge upper limit is an arbitrary mythical number someone came up with that everyone follows blindly.
Zero to 100 percent on the graph you can see is roughly 60 to 80 percent on the actual battery. Is why they last so long.
No one brings up the fact that the EPA range is based on charging to 100%, therefore it's misleading since lithium ion batteries can't be routinely charged all the way.
@@rkgsd. Hybrids carry the energy in liquid fuel. So range is liquid fuel limited.
And the main traction battery can be a nickel battery for good power performance. Don't need lithium and its good energy performance.
My experience is once you start seeing 100% all green bars, expect something with the HV battery like a module to go bad in the next 6-8 months. I also like running Hybrid Assistant with a dedicated smart phone most all the time, especially during warm weather with the HV battery fan set to the lowest setting so to turn on the fan for better battery cooling versus the stock quiet mode controls. Torque is supposed to be better for controlling the fan as well. Dr Prius or like the Autel cheap bluetooth OBD2 adapters can provide insight into which module block is going bad so can let the pack sit once you measure after removing so to see which module discharges at the higher rate and or doesn't hold charge due to the bad cell in the module.
Going through all these troubles to save some gas. Stop voting democrat and the gas prices will go back down to normal.
Exactly 💯
Save a little gasoline.
Replace more turbos.
Decarbon the direct injection engines occasionally.
Change the oil more often (oil dilution) or replace engine occasionally.
Discard EV if collision results in small dent in the traction battery.
Is this stuff really better for the planet?
These Toyota hybrids are electric cars with gasoline engine assist. No annoying start/stop system needed. The gasoline assist engine only runs when needed or to warm up.
Wrong first phrase, it's viceversa.
@codincoman9019 . You are sort of correct for speeds above 45 mph. The 2 electric motors manipulate the gasoline engine using the planetary gearset to make it do all the work at the most efficient rpm and load.
What I wrote is totally correct for speeds below 45 mph. The main traction motor propells the vehicle through a direct drive (the same as most battery electric cars). Gasoline engine assist is provided through the planetary gearset if acceleration beyond the capability of the traction motor is requested.
The gasoline assist engine also runs to warm up and if the traction battery needs some additional charge.
@@dannybryant6873 You are mostly correct for the city driving. But even then, my Lexus hybrid uses the hybrid battery at most for a few minutes/miles, making the EV mode to be in use at most 25% (I'm exxagerating, ofc) of the time, if you drive in a specific way.
Because the intention behind the self-charging hybrids (invented by Honda and Toyota more than two decades ago, "in parallel") was to save fuel, not to be primary electric (thus the wrong label of HEV - to manipulate the EV statistics for the benefit of the BEV, mandated by the WEF [globalist "elites" interface] through the political puppets they own all around the world).
And you know very well that the electric part is saving the kinetic energy (otherwise lost in ICE cars - when braking/coasting downhill - by dissipating the heat created by the friction that destroys faster the brake pads, rotors etc.) through the regenerative braking, to be used later for starts, initial or high accelerations etc.
That's why the SCH purpose is best achieved in cities and hilly areas, helping save lots of fuel, while during long trips outside cities, on flat roads is almost useless.
The ECVT merit is also important for the overall savings (including the absence of the starter, alternator etc., partially offsetting the expense with the hybrid system) and for the biggest reliability among car segments (proven by CR statistics), helpings achieve the lowest TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) too.
So what is important for science-based people is that the SCH proves to be the best of both worlds (and my small statistics, with hundreds of Self-Charging Hybrids in car fleets, confirms the big savings).
I guess we can agree on this.
@@codincoman9019 . Another big plus is allowing the use of an efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine so anytime the engine is running it is using less fuel than the Otto cycle regular engine.
And at high altitudes the variable value timing probably adjusts back toward Otto cycle to keep more of the air fuel in the combustion chamber to maintain power.
Almost like free forced induction.
@@dannybryant6873 Yes, good mentions.
People not studying what SCHs are and having bad words about them are either die-hard petrol heads or EVangelists (but I would rather keep my amazing ICE cars - a Miata and a Jimny - than moving to a BRV or PHEV clunker). Both wrong, because they do not understand the way SCHs work, making them the best choice we have to lower cars impact on the planet.
Of course, there are some disadvantages such as the polluting hybrid battery (but that is quite small vs. the large BEV batteries). And I am not referring to CO2 (that is not a pollutant, but trees' air).
All the best!
Stick to normal cars, hybrids and EVs are disposable appliances.
Now, that's a good one! Hybrid, still oil changes and the rest of normal maintenance. So, what are really the MEASURABLE benefits?
@@federiconalos8202 No benefit, more expense and reduced lifespan due to battery.
Hybrids are awesome (thinking Toyota HSD).
Great for what you don't get.
No turbos. No GDI without port injection. No annoying start/stop system. No sleazy mechanical CVTs. No 11 speed torque converter automatics. No torque converter. No automated direct shift manual. No belts (accessory timing or Wet). No 12 Volt starter or alternator. No mechanically driven AC compressor (it's electric like your home refrigerator).
Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks.
Allows efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle gasoline assist engine for reduced fuel consumption.
Allows regenerative braking for reduced brake components wear (and reduced fuel consumption).
Nickel battery to avoid lithium concerns.
Good stuff.
@@dannybryant6873Agree. But there are enough people knowing nothing about the self-charging hybrids, the best of both worlds.
They have not analyzed the huge savings of a hybrid, more than covering the cost of replacing the hybrid battery (unlike the case of the BEV scam).
Well, post planned obsolescence the quote normal cars are also engineered to have a limited life cycle like say tires where are maybe 7 years or so. Some designed to rust and not be as easily serviced with more costs and some designed to last longer and cost less. EVs on the other hand seem more shady IMO at this time. With proper design though seems like a hydrodynamic bearing designed to last 1000 years or more, an EV might be able to be designed to last really long lifecycle like the greatest thinkers in the US from the 1800s who actually cared about quality with the longest lasting lifecycle to pass on the tools possibly for perpetuity and not war profiteering.