one time in an all any match I played in ToS1, the only evil was a witch and town spent days just randomly lynching people hoping something would happen. It never did until around day 6 when by chance we caught the witch
nah pipe, 7 playing badly definitely negatively affected the game far more than mon being a not-so-great role. i have very little respect for people who get tpow or dep or knighted and think that they can dictate how the game goes and actively throw because they're "in charge"
A knighted person with 10 people left isn't even remotely close to in charge. If they start "leading" psychotically and people just follow them, at least the town is also just as bad in that situation.
I hate rolling Tpow sm. It's a lot of pressure and if you do not do your job well you can singlehandedly throw it for town and will probably get flamed for it.
It would be interesting to give Monarch a day ability where they can force their knights to vote on a person of their choosing with the knights not having the ability to alter it or to stop them from voting for that day and absorb their vote power, would probably have to limit it to 1 or 2 uses.
I had a game yesterday where a deputy game threw just cause he didn't wanna be deputy. Day 3 he pops out a shots a Prosecutor then tells everyone he shot the pros just cause he didn't wanna be the deputy role.
@@RandomBlackBox Who know what their logic or problem is. If they really don't like the role then either run cursed scrolls, dc & deal with the time out timer or just deal with it & play. I personally hate getting DW, Voodoo, Rit & Jinx, I run cursed scrolls for them but I still get them on a rare occasion & when I do I say N1 my cursed scrolls failed me & I hate this role & I leave it at that & just deal & play with just play with what I've been given. I don't intentionally game throw.
6:30 Throne of Lies reference? That game, number 1 was always the first king, it was guaranteed king. Though considering 7's IQ throught the match I imagine he is not referencing that
@@Khorius From the way I see it, G in gif stand for graphics. You don't pronounce graphics jraphics, do you? Second of all, a majority of people pronounce it gif (with a hard g). Pronunciation of words aren't truly defined by a singular person (especially in the english language). It is defined by the majority. Of course, both are correct. It is up to your interpretation on which one is "more" correct. English, believe it or not, is an absolutely terrible language. Not because it is made up of an unintelligible amount of other languages, but (from the way I see it) because it is done extremely inefficiently. In reality, language isn't a race of "pronunciation" or "grammar", but a way for entities to communicate and express eachother. Whether you use gif or jif, people will most likely know what you're talking about, and that's the end goal. As for the obvious joke that I was making that might've missed you, the "jif" pronunciation is often looked down upon by most people and is sometimes used as an insult (especially online), E.g., you look like you pronounce gif like jif.
@@TheVercci it's boring to play against 3 tpows in a game. Before the nerfs I was once in a game where I kid you not by D3 there was a confirmed dep, 4 tpows and a soc. What are you supposed to do against that? In tos 1 at least you had a chance. The tpows are powerful enough, none of them should be buffed.
100% Mon can suck. I know you say you don't blame the player, but in a game where players are using at least the standard respect for the game, you shouldn't have this problem. Being silly in ToS is fun! But not when a player randomly clears anyone of wrongdoing with no evidence, while having the sway of being knighted. Because, idk why, even early-game where the extra vote isn't as powerful, knights just socially brainwash people and everyone treats them as though they're mayor. Which is exactly why knighting N1 is always a problem lol Your town were just a bit dumb in this game, since they lynched an arso the day after they ignited.
I think Monarch instead should knight a target, then that target broadcasts their role publicly and is silenced for the day unless the monarch lets them speak. The target is protected from 1 attack per night. If you reveal an evil, the evil cannot activate their ability that day or night, but cannot be voted out or killed, it expires after 1 night and a charge is removed. No dupe targets. This gives monarch a more active role and allows it to play pseudo investigative by outing roles, so give it 2 charges Mayor reveals themself but monarch reveals others
Day 35 of telling lies: This goes to show that knighting the vet is always 100% the bestest choice. After all, what downside could there be giving a confirmed townie with the ability to defend themselves an extra vote?
Low evil matches are pretty dangerous because almost always town implodes trying to find a single evil :p
one time in an all any match I played in ToS1, the only evil was a witch and town spent days just randomly lynching people hoping something would happen. It never did until around day 6 when by chance we caught the witch
@@slipupyt Lore-accurate Town of Salem
Gotta love it when Town of Salem games seem like the actual Salem Witch Trials
@@slipupytIf the only evil is witch, the game ends immediately on day 2. There needs to be another evil.
@@freddyfishy2262not if there is a vigilante alive
I like how the BG Crus were just on their little island while town imploded on itself
Exodia combo.
nah pipe, 7 playing badly definitely negatively affected the game far more than mon being a not-so-great role. i have very little respect for people who get tpow or dep or knighted and think that they can dictate how the game goes and actively throw because they're "in charge"
A knighted person with 10 people left isn't even remotely close to in charge. If they start "leading" psychotically and people just follow them, at least the town is also just as bad in that situation.
I hate rolling Tpow sm. It's a lot of pressure and if you do not do your job well you can singlehandedly throw it for town and will probably get flamed for it.
It would be interesting to give Monarch a day ability where they can force their knights to vote on a person of their choosing with the knights not having the ability to alter it or to stop them from voting for that day and absorb their vote power, would probably have to limit it to 1 or 2 uses.
Or something more subtle like invisible whispers between monarch and knight (like Tos 1 lovers mode) and the ability to unknight once
@@oscarfernandez5599 or more drastic maybe; abdicate. Nullifies all knights and lose armour
13 days since last coven game
44 days since last apoc game
277 days since last arso game
My last pirate game was in 2018, :(
I had a game yesterday where a deputy game threw just cause he didn't wanna be deputy. Day 3 he pops out a shots a Prosecutor then tells everyone he shot the pros just cause he didn't wanna be the deputy role.
How come that so many people have toddler mentality?
@@RandomBlackBox Who know what their logic or problem is. If they really don't like the role then either run cursed scrolls, dc & deal with the time out timer or just deal with it & play. I personally hate getting DW, Voodoo, Rit & Jinx, I run cursed scrolls for them but I still get them on a rare occasion & when I do I say N1 my cursed scrolls failed me & I hate this role & I leave it at that & just deal & play with just play with what I've been given. I don't intentionally game throw.
When you award a war hero a purple
I was just wondering when pipe was going to upload 😊
6:30 Throne of Lies reference? That game, number 1 was always the first king, it was guaranteed king. Though considering 7's IQ throught the match I imagine he is not referencing that
Wait tilll he realizes the red will at the bottom of the notes can be used as a BETTER notepad
Would love to see some arsonist games
There was some guy counting the time since the last coven, neutral apoc and arso games, it was at like 300 days since arson game or smth
honestly same, although it’s hard to get a solid arso win
surprised there are comments before the video can be physically finished
This is one of the TOS2 games of all time!
apparently giles is actually pronounced jiles, which makes him sound even more evil
I bet he pronounces gif like jif
I prefer distincting Giles Corey in ToS from the real one because the real Giles Corey's story.
More weight
@@chenterr103 how do you pronounce giant?
@@Khorius How do you pronounce gift?
(I say jif, I'm just combatting for fun)
@@Khorius From the way I see it, G in gif stand for graphics. You don't pronounce graphics jraphics, do you? Second of all, a majority of people pronounce it gif (with a hard g). Pronunciation of words aren't truly defined by a singular person (especially in the english language). It is defined by the majority. Of course, both are correct. It is up to your interpretation on which one is "more" correct.
English, believe it or not, is an absolutely terrible language. Not because it is made up of an unintelligible amount of other languages, but (from the way I see it) because it is done extremely inefficiently.
In reality, language isn't a race of "pronunciation" or "grammar", but a way for entities to communicate and express eachother. Whether you use gif or jif, people will most likely know what you're talking about, and that's the end goal.
As for the obvious joke that I was making that might've missed you, the "jif" pronunciation is often looked down upon by most people and is sometimes used as an insult (especially online), E.g., you look like you pronounce gif like jif.
Monarch should get more powerful based on having knights not just having defense and the others getting power instead.
I disagree I think mon is balanced as it is
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964 You worry too much about balance forgetting it should be fun too.
@@TheVercci it's boring to play against 3 tpows in a game. Before the nerfs I was once in a game where I kid you not by D3 there was a confirmed dep, 4 tpows and a soc. What are you supposed to do against that? In tos 1 at least you had a chance. The tpows are powerful enough, none of them should be buffed.
@@TheVercci Fun is all about balance bro.
Maybe instead the Knights could be normal votes but forced to vote with the monarch when they vote?
then itd be better to knight evils if you did that and itd make knights not do anything when mon dies
Aros was dorsing
aros with that dorsal fin on they towns
I think it's a terrible idea to buff any of the tpows, tos 1 was very balanced with just mayor and jailor.
I think this is like the first game in so long I seen giles Corey as a towney
Monarch is the weakest Tpow since he can't win the game by himself.
7 is Town Traitor
GG Great video as always :)
When the aros dorses their target:
Day 101 of tallying skin usage in vids (Back to our usual counting, but I'll have another round of *BONUS STATS* on day 150 ^^)
Artemys variant: 96
Avery variant: 115
Blyte variant: 149
Bridget variant: 85
Brokk variant: 75
Catherine: 84
Davey: 85
Deodat variant: 115
Firebug 'variant': 59
Francisco: 114
Gerald variant: 120 🎉
Giles: 95
Glinda: 130 🎉
Grim variant: 8
Headless Horseman 'variant': 87
John variant: 159
Jack variant: 129
Jackie 'variant': 122
Jekyll variant: 37
Kande 'variant': 41
Krampus 'variant': 41
Liric: 106
Lupin variant: 91
Macy variant: 92
Mary variant: 129
Martha 'variant': 75
Nikki variant: 125
Petra 'variant': 28
Robert: 39
Rosemary 'variant': 53
Sabrina 'variant': 95
Samuel 'variant': 82
Shinrin 'variant': 46
Tomas: 28
Van Helsing: 22
Vladimir 'variant': 52
Giles corey was town it happened !
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13 crys
The guy who was baker has a familiar name....
Admirer and Monarch are town liability role for real. Poor design.
And thats why they should kiss/j
I got called TT monarch because I knighted the only TK claim in the lobby. Turns out they were Jinx and the real TK was a vet fake claiming.
100% Mon can suck.
I know you say you don't blame the player, but in a game where players are using at least the standard respect for the game, you shouldn't have this problem.
Being silly in ToS is fun! But not when a player randomly clears anyone of wrongdoing with no evidence, while having the sway of being knighted.
Because, idk why, even early-game where the extra vote isn't as powerful, knights just socially brainwash people and everyone treats them as though they're mayor.
Which is exactly why knighting N1 is always a problem lol
Your town were just a bit dumb in this game, since they lynched an arso the day after they ignited.
7 could've just lost the match by himself with that ego lol
finally i can rest easy
This is why i despise monarch. Its a tpow with absolutely zero power. You might as well be trapper that is unable to build any traps the entire match.
Naw he's an OK role, can be decently useful. But, uh, giving power to others in public lobbies...disastrous.
I think Monarch instead should knight a target, then that target broadcasts their role publicly and is silenced for the day unless the monarch lets them speak. The target is protected from 1 attack per night.
If you reveal an evil, the evil cannot activate their ability that day or night, but cannot be voted out or killed, it expires after 1 night and a charge is removed. No dupe targets.
This gives monarch a more active role and allows it to play pseudo investigative by outing roles, so give it 2 charges
Mayor reveals themself but monarch reveals others
Sounds dumb
It's basicly pre rework admirer, but with even more control.
Can you upload a baker game
I get to say first before the bots get here :D Love the vids Pipe
Monarch shouldn't be able to knight N1 thats a liability at best throwing at worst when you random knight a evil
this round is so fake!! how can Giles Corey be a towny?? GC always evil !!
nice to watch as always sir Pipe
Day 35 of telling lies:
This goes to show that knighting the vet is always 100% the bestest choice. After all, what downside could there be giving a confirmed townie with the ability to defend themselves an extra vote?
Welcome back to some more town of Salem tuah
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