Reaction to the Dog Brothers | Stick Fighting Done Right
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- The Dog Brothers are a legendary name in the stick fighting community. Today we watch their footage and judge their secret ways.
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"This, is this" "It's not a sword" "It's not a magic wand" "It's a stick" Woof!
You must have the same DVD set I do.
@@normanwalford9426 well...TH-cam actually 🤔
Only a bit related , but one of my favorite anecdotes is about Dog Brother Burton Richardson . I was at a Martial arts seminar in the late 90's up in Washington state and he was one of the instructors , and by far the most acclaimed . I went to a few other classes before his but it was the usual thing I dislike about seminars . Nothing but instructors feeding their own egos by showing off how much they know at a rapid pace , but leaving the students with pretty much nothing to take home with them . Then it was time to go to Burton's class and it was the exact OPPOSITE. Here is the most advanced instructor there and he was insistent on teaching basics to beginners in a methodical, easy to remember method . he never went too fast, never went off on a tangent and made sure everybody had it down before he moved on . His was the only class I retained everything from and went on to teach it to my own students. In fact that became my own model for teaching classes. Actually make teaching your goal instead of trying to be impressive or scary .
That's exactly why after a seminar, also in the late 90's, I decided to join JKDU in 1999 and have never looked back. Currently a Level 3 Instructor for JKDU.😁
Sounds like a great teacher.
Burton is a great coach
Think that is wonderful, he sounds like a great teacher, my main teacher was a gentleman named Eddie Lastra, last I knew he lived/ worked in the Stockton California area, he is a great man, his family system is Lastra Arnis and I studied it for ten years, it had been taught in his family since 1898, and his brother George who was a combat vet used it to stay alive in several conflicts organized the system to be taught to the public. Great art, great men. I did full contact stick fighting every class without any safety equipment but a wooden stick and plastic safety googles.
On my alt account. Full Dog Brother here. Fought with them for 8 years. Been in hundreds of sparing knife fights, and one actual real one. My training with DBMA likely saved my life. Learning what works in real life can be the difference between life and death. Sometimes the best option is the runaway, but if that is not the case, knowing what to do under real stress, and learning a wide variety of weapons, styles, techniques, people, etc. Can be invaluable. I've often said, if I ever got caught ina dark ally, who would I want at my side, I would pick anyone who had been part of a DBMA gathering. And always remember, Higher consciousness, though harder contact!
@@uberjackkde Yes. They are still around and still fighting.
Woof
Woof! Been to three gatherings ⚔️🇵🇭🇵🇭🥷🏻🥷🏻🦮
Woof woof 👊🏼😉
WOOF!
On a visit to FMA land, ended up in a cage fighting a local guy no protective gear. round 1. single stick (no head shots) . round 2. knife.(no head shots) round 3. empty hand. great fun but painful experience.
Haha sounds like my FMA classes. Everything was pressure tested.
Check out “Friendly Knife Fighting between Philippine Marine and USMC.” Note how many times the Filipino slashed the American’s hand and arm without getting hit. Stick fighting in FMA is practice for blades. The stick fighting you know is the sport version of an actual killing art.
Nah he won't
If he wants how filipino stick fighting back then. He should watch kali escrima French documentary
@@generizze6243 The video I recommended does not show stick fighting but soldiers sparring with dummy knives.
Yeah. I actually currently train with “Top Dog” Eric Knaus. He is one of the founders. He is currently a (3) strip BJJ brown belt. He hasn’t done a stick fight in about 10 yrs. He is 65 yrs old now. He is no regular 65 yr old. He is an absolute monster and he is freakishly strong, and flexible. Look up his fights from the late 80’s, and through out the 90’s.
They don’t call him Top Dog for nothing. His FMA technique under duress is incredible.
Sounds like a great guy and a great athlete.
I would like to point out a few things, more traditional stick fighting styles of escrima training are historically set up to move into bladed weapons: Swords and knives. While padding sparing is great for many aspects of stick work like pressure training and timing...use dull swords and watch the sparring change..use electro knives and see a sudden darth of charging and far more set ups...and non committed strikes. When I look at the first fight, that guy with the stick really could've ended it if he had been better trained in stick grappling. Anyways, much respect to all styles of sparring and training. Train hard and train often, pressure test and remember the positive and negative aspects of your training , sparring regime and keep an open mind. Much respect.
Don't need to go far as stupidity
If you ever saw Eric Knaus fight you would know is not just people flailing around with sticks. His utilization of the techniques of the Filipino martial art while under pressure are brilliant.
Don't forget about the power of the "Live hand" and "Punyo"
Stick fight without the other safety equipment, the safety equipment makes FMA into a pillow fight. The stick is the safety equipment, it is in place of the blade.
When we were kids our father gave us boxing gloves 9:14
We never trained with sticks
Stick Fighting is a sport, it develops bad habits.
It's not meant to be a sport, it is killing martial art.@@amsb4dafunk558
Did this video get clowned the whole time then get praised for it in the end.
Lol yeah some of us have jobs to go to in the morning. The 1600s called they want their training methods back
@@DarkSeas117 what you are saying is true! I had a job that I could hobble into on crutches if I needed to, not everyone has that luxury! Glad some people are keeping the old ways alive though.😊
Nice analysis! FMA definitely made me ambidextrous. While I’m super happy I’ve trained in other stuff (e.g., BJJ), FMA has been a nice use of time. You absolutely have to ensure that the group you train with emphasizes sparring-verified techniques, like DBs.
They definitely need more affiliates out there
@@CombatSelfDefense this is a old footages of arnis.Arnis of 50s: french documentary @ powghee
The only thing that stands out to me, especially in the first fight, is that in the classes I took we were taught that if you have your stick in the grapple you're supposed to use the short end of the stick (jamming it into joints, muscles, etc). That's something we trained in sparring but with padded sticks because if you do it with a real stick you can permanently injure someone which is why I imagine you don't see it being done here.
Ehhhh I would also say that’s a lot harder to do under pressure than people think it is. When you’re tied up with a person who is holding on to your weapon arm for dear life, it can be hard to get into position to do those things
@@CombatSelfDefensethat may be so but the dog brothers believe in watching out for youe brothers. So permantly injuring each other is not what is desired.
Yup. It doesn't take long before you are using the puno to crush muscles and ribs... then learn NOT to do it. Cus NO one wants to train when thats in the rule set.
That guy Philip Gelinius has been doing Kajukenbo since the 1970's and still practices it. He's being doing Kali since the 1980's. I fought in a Dog Brother Gathering years ago, it is the ultimate acid test, it exposes what works and what doesn't.
that's what I really liked about the Amok! system. First day? well, you're gonna spar. There's differing levels, like if you just learned how to pass and slash a 1 and 2. The person will move around full speed but only throw 1 and 2's. If they see you're having a hard time, they back off little by little until you can execute it a few times, then start picking the pace back up. You learn the techniques and immediately practice them sparring. If for some reason you just can't get what they showed you to work, but have some other motion you discovered that stops the attack, they never force you to do their technique, they help you build up what works for you. So I guess it's more a methodology, than a style.
There's a big difference between a "stick fighter" and a guy fighting with a stick. If you think that training in Kali is about stick fighting, you're sadly mistaken. One of my former students went to a dog brothers sessions and tore it up he was then asked to join them, I think his handle is Guide Dog. The Idea Denny came up with is a good concept but sadly I think it became more of a competition and less of a testing ground.... oh and by the way I've been a practicing martial artist for 54 years and have been in the Kali /JKD system for 32 years, not boasting just saying that i have a little experience in this area. I appreciate your video. Thanks
Maybe I misunderstand you comment, but how is more active sparring, less of a testing ground
@@2o3ief So as a new beginner to Kali, from what I know is that Kali is actually knife fighting. It's a martial art based upon Wing Chung, fencing, and Jeet Kun Do. It was a way to fight invaders with machetes or sticks, or whatever you could hold in your hand.
Whats great about it, is just about anybody can master the basic strikes and pick it up very quickly. I knew the strikes and was doing drills and footwork by week 3.
Yeah, it's a stick, but replace that with a metal rod, or a blade. These silly sticks become a whole different ballgame.
The thing about Kali tho is that if you're doing it without the empty handed drills like hubub, then all you got is a stick. You gotta get the footwork and the grapples/ disarms down to really be effective. Everyone has a plan until they get hit.
@@Ian-np6zt that's not addressing my question at all. OP seems to be claiming that Dog Brothers has more sparring than traditional Kali--yet complains that its less of a testing ground.
I'm asking how he squares that. The foundational assumption being that pressure testing during live sparring is the most valuable form of testing for a technique as it pertains to actual violence
@@2o3ief the world may never know
@@Ian-np6ztKali is older than JKD, it was first discovered by the west when the conquistadors arrived in the Philippines. The sticks represent bolos, short swords that are a traditional weapon there but sparring with sticks is safer than swords. Kali is a lot more than knife or stick fighting, theres a lot of unarmed techniques, punches, kicks, blocks and trapping and even takedowns. There is a branch of JKD that is Jun Fan JKD mixed with Kali, i think founded by Dan Inosanto.
The Double Baston, or Siniwali drill translates very well to empty hands punching Combinations. It is really good training. There is great footwork in these arts too. I switched over to Kuntao Silat, after my Kali journey. I love Silat.
Me too! Except I did kali and silat at the same time and still train both. Ever checked out Suffian Bela Diri silat? If not you should def check it out, Maul Mornie has a ton of videos on his channel.
The big thing is to remember DBMA (Dog Brothers Martial Arts) is Punong Guro Crafty Dogs style. Based on his learnings and experiences. Dog Brothers can be from any style but most to my knowledge did FMA among other things. Many train BJJ/GJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing etc.
So the Dog Brothers Tribe is (to me) more a warrior order with the entry being a trial by combat/are you not a piece of crap. DBMA is a style you can become an instructor of, but not Dog Brothers Tribe.
well, there is crafty's variation and lonely's variation, both are dbma, no? i practice dbma but never trained with crafty dog...
He said training DBMA is largely Crafty's or Lonely's style, there is Top and Salty's. Otherwise you fight in the tribe using whatever style(s) you fight with.
I would argue the exact same outcome if they were fighting Muay Thai. They are both wearing protective gear it is 100% going to devolve into grappling every time in protective head gear you can't get knocked out.
They should invent a suit that has electronic sensors that when it’s hit, it will make different sounds with an equivalent point for scoring.
Dog brothers are hard af
FYI, not all of the fighters who show up are Dogbrother Martial Arts practitioners, or even FMA practitioners for that matter. Each Gathering is a test to which all are welcome. There is also a difference between being a member of the Dogbrother Tribe (wherein one is ranked 'Dog', 'Candidate Dog Brother' and finally full 'Dogbrother') and simply being a participant in a Gathering. All this to say that if you are a full Dogbrother, your skill (and courage/craziness) is on a different level than most.
I knew about the different tiers, but it's hard to find footage of "only full dogs" sparring.
All dock workers welcome
@@CombatSelfDefense Do a search for Tribal Gatherings
@@CombatSelfDefense look up tribal gatherings footage that's for dog brothers only
@@CombatSelfDefenseth-cam.com/video/7ZLzVXf7GfM/w-d-xo.html
WOW...the ignorance is mind boggling.
ONE Single Kali/Arnis class would shut that "patty cake, no-technique" noise up Real quick.
I’ve had many Kali classes
My understand of Dog Brothers is you can use any weapon if you can find someone willing to fight you. I saw one of their videos years go where garden hoses were being used.
I couldn’t find that video, but I remember watching it as well.
Remember a stick fighting match in real life only last about 3 seconds. If you hit somebody with a stick made out of hardwood, it's over with. What you see in these videos, they are using rattan which is a practice stick.
That is a very dangerous generalization to make.
Yeah, I gotta disagree with ya on that. A rattan stick will open ya up just as easily as a hickory.
A 3/4" diameter 30" long stick would change your mind real quick.
And being there are not many stick fights on video your statement is debatable. The machete fights from South America show otherwise. Both tend to be careful since it is obviously super dangerous. After 1st hit the fight is usually over due to the hit side quits.
Dog Brothers are amazing and deserve WAY more credit. I am awaiting to become a DOG, win or lose.
They are 100% pioneers of martial arts.
I train in Inosanto Kali. There actually is quite a bit of grappling techniques referred to as "dumog". Filipino martial arts are very useful and dynamic. The Filipinos took concepts and techniques from every nation that they had contact with, and borrowed those techniques to create their own indigenous martial arts systems. Nice video, always keep an open mind of others martial arts. They may not be the one we choose to train in, but that does not mean they are ineffective.
I love Filipino martial arts. I trained stick for about 4 yrs in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. I am very fortunate to be currently training with “Top Dog” from the dog brothers. He is in his mid 60’s now but he has 1000+ stick fights over a 30 yr period. Unfortunately it is only 1-2hrs on the first weekend of the month but he doesn’t charge and my son loves it now. Only about 3 or so people show up. I wish more people were interested. It’s still great. This guy was a hero to me in my late teens watching his martial arts videos I bootlegged. It’s so cool to me that I am a friend of his now. He and I primarily train BJJ together and he does BJJ like a stick fight. He only really takes it down a few notches from that. He is currently a (3) striped brown belt, I’m a zero striped purple belt. If I get a bloody lip or a bruised face it’s probably Eric. What a wonderful training partner and absolutely a great guy. Eric should be way more known than he is for ushering in the “Dog Brothers” philosophy. Unfortunately he dropped his association with the group a few years back.
I noticed that you don't see any of the slick fancy Filipino stick drills being utilized
LOL I fought at that Dogbrother Gathering back in the day.... probably like 10 years ago now. Thanks for using that material. PTK with Tim Waid for many years is very footwork intense.
The point of this martial arts is that the sticks are just a stand in for a short sword, yes the stick or anything similar are great weapons in their own right but the point of this training originally historically was for war, with blades and usually a shield.
Great analysis.
Thank you!
I have an old bokken sparring video up ware the first half we were doing random things to mentally warm up, then we get down to the wire in the second half. It's not one of our better matches, but it's the one we decided to video. 2010 was so long ago. My brother and I did full contact stick fighting from the time we were little until about 5 years ago. I'll say this much, there's a lot of technique to it, it was my kind of fun but I'm probably never going to do it again.
Just like heavy sparring, it can wear the body down very quickly
Thanks for this ! Subscribed my former sensei Sam Tendencia did not believe in protection so we always sparred with out any. He very much enjoyed sliding the stick down on and rapping your knuckles if you were't strong enough in blocking. lol
I'd been looking for a good whacker to keep around the house, and I found this old 1" dowel about 2' long that is just perfect. Then I was throwing away this old broom and cut off a 2' section of the handle! They are good.
please be very careful with dowelling, it has the nasty habit of snapping along a sharp line giving you a quick and immediate wooden spear. you could hurt yourself or someone else very easily and quickly. I am in the socialist republic of Canada. Our self defense laws protect the criminal so I could be in a lot of trouble for defending myself. Luducrous but...
Regardless, you don't want to hurt yourself, while defending yourself. Good luck.
All I will say is: TRY IT! 😉
I did, for a while. Not Dog Brothers, as I'm in Denmark, so in two local clubs.
Stick-fighting with helmet, some gloves (just regular MMA gloves) and optional elbow and knee padding: and off you go.
It does leave some bruises on a weekly basis. And broken bones, occasionally.
I've seen way more blood in training when I trained Krav Maga, though. But more bruises and bone fractures in FMA.
I did both Latosa Concepts, Weapons Combat, and Arnis. The latter are known for their swirling and twirling 😅 (Ernesto Presas) but the guys I trained with were 100% pragmatic and did zero of that stuff. So in practice it was all just "stickfighting - to the best of your ability".
As a Kali Instructor for over 20 years The Dog Brothers Method has something to offer and is extremely Effective the problem is the General Public this type of training in my opinion the serious Martial Artists Not The average person walking into our schools with that said very Effective Art watch out For the Fang or Stinky Stick 😂 Great Video Thank you so much for posting 💪❤️🙏
Combat arts have never been meant to be practiced by the masses…only a very few
Two guys weilding nunchucks. Nunchucks engage each other, and become tangled. One opponent pulls away with both. Interesting the Combat Self Defense mistook this as an exotic weapon.
I Am A Self Taught Fighter, I Have Many Forms Down, And I Can Twirl Strikes In Precise Places On A Person, But I Only Do It Alone, Not Against A Person, And I Use Tree Sticks/ Broken Branches Or Sticks On The Ground, I Found Many That Could Be Used In Certain Ways Like Other Styles Like A Club Or A Wooden Katana, But I Don't Know If I Can Say It's Successful Since They Almost Always Break When Used On "Dummies" I Make My Own Weapons And Make Sure To Use The Weight And Length To Make Them Into What I Can, Usually It's Just Branches Or Long Thick Sticks -Zach
I Just Do Stuff Similar To A Spear/Staff When It's A Long Light Stick, And As A Halberd If It Is Long And Thick -Zach
Spot on. Come out and have some fun full contact.
Whoof
He can use the stick to break the arm, or pull the elbow out of place.
When he hooks the arm with the stick.
These guys actually know how to fight,the reason I think a lot of stick fighting isn't taken seriously is because no one ever does what's natural and that's employ what ever other weapons you have, aka punches, kicks trips ect. I train with sticks and I think of more like how I would use a stick to gain an advantage over someone younger, bigger or multiple attackers in a self defense situation as apposed to stick fighting like me and another guy are just going at each other with sticks I did that in kendo and jodo 25 years ago and I'm not interested in that anymore. The one thing I would say about being well versed in stick fighting is, there's a Brazilian jujitsu school on every block in the city I live in but absolutely no real places that teach stick fighting be it long stick, short stick, Japanese, Philipino or any other variety and my opinion is being versed in anything most aren't familiar with is an advantage.
I would love to see more practical stick fighting schools out there.
@@CombatSelfDefense They are out there my friend. They follow the Dog Bros thought process and are mostly FMA trained who want to go further in their exploration of the art. They fight in Backyards, Parks, garages and any where else where they don't get bothered.
@@CombatSelfDefense Also check Lonely Dog who teaches and trains in Europe. His students and he are even more refined in their techniques in real time then the fighters I seen in your videos. Happy hunting!!
Dungeon Dog here. Woof.
Could you point me to any videos of you fighting an actual person who practices FMA? I mean not a scripted one, just an actual one or if you don't have one is it okay to request for that kind of content? Thanks, looking forward to it.
Is there an interesting group of guys if memory serves the original dog brothers were all Dan inosanto that gravitated towards Filipino martial arts and wanted a more realistic training method.
There's a tight connection between the dog-brothers Machado jiu-jitsu Inosanto Jeet Kune Do and Kali.
And I agree 100% with your assessment I think you would agree with 95% of what they say.
I think that entire East California region is just a good hub of martial arts knowledge.
@@CombatSelfDefense 100% brother.... When I started JKD under the PFS lineage... Every serious martial artist I knew out here in Canada always said if you really want to get a good taste of very good martial arts go to the west coast of the California.... Was a virtual who's-who of martial arts Masters and practitioners that are pretty much seen as Gods today..... And it's funny looking back at it now it's amazing to think of all the great guys I trained with on the west coast that I didn't know would become household name in martial arts. You are 💯 right on that.
Many were students of Danny - Burt Richardson and Marc Denny most notably. I was a student of Leo Gaje and Tom Bisio in New York. In the pre-Dog Brothers days Danny gave me the key to his place in Torrance, CA and we would swing away at each other pretty much anytime we could. We had a similar run of his place at Marina del Rey and we were loosely known as the “midnight group”. Lots of fun and growth
@@ericknaus4998 that is awesome you are part of the old crew. I am super jealous 😲😲😲
Great analysis
Thank you sir!
True. That is the core concept of FMA. evolve the style to make it optimum for your own personal style.
Swinging a stick is centripetal force
My fist is swollen from beating the stick.
Just imagine if they're holding "itak". One or two hits and you're dead.
"While stripping is never a bad idea 👀"
Keep that in mind.
I'm not old enough to fall. I'm taller, bigger, and willing to take the fight into the depths of a pond. Pursue me for purpose.
Nice vid 👍
The head kick punch guy you praised gor knife slashed in the face before he even connected with the round kick. Why no mention of that?
Revolution of stickfight
I have a suggestion watch Daniel bernas shorts. He practices kali and does pressure tested sparring and the exchanges are very good.
Once there is hand protection, itanit weapons fighting, be it stick or blade
The escrima stick (s) replaced the bladed weapon (s), as it was against the law during the early days to carry a blade or sword.
This is why you see the thrust attack in escrima system of fighting, and many times both the stick and a blade is used.
even FMA practitioners find this .... interesting.
The real deal. Trained w/ and fought. Quite a few groups around that are connected to them and still train and fight. FMA based and are proud of their heritage and lineage.
I definitely think that FMA could use more sparring, the flow drills are okay for stuff like muscle memory I guess but it doesn't do as much for you as sparring.
I actually train Muay Thai next to Eskrima and will occasionally try out things I learned in Eskrima during sparring in Muay Thai, and I also use Muay Thai strikes and clinching (sometimes even modified to be used with a stick) in Eskrima.
It makes a world of difference when someone is actually pressuring you when you try to use what you've learned against them.
Hi, there... You should take a look at the Dog Brothers representative in Europe, Benjamin Rittiner "Lonely Dog"... In his youtube Channel you have a lot of training videos and Fight videos. He is a must if you want to improve your Real Contact Stick Fighting. Go check him out. Best wishes
FMA is a quick kill system. And in order for someone to achieve it he or she will have to master the skills otherwise it becomes useless.
Crafty Dog Marc Denny used Jiu Jitsu and dominated many fights with it.
He was also a judge at the first UFC.
Dog Brothers tried to be in the first UFC but were seemed too extreme.
Theirs many who know Jiu Jitsu.
Dog Brothers are closely connected to the Machado Brothers BJJ.
Many fighters you see here are novice fighters.
I was always critical of weapon arts until I recently started stick fighting, that shit is for real lol. The guy’s who are really good at it could probably just pick some type of branch off the ground and f some people up with it lol
Intense. I used to train w/BooDog, the spartan workout before the combat training was enough to make a lot of people quit. Very spartan. DB training is great, realistic, and to the point. But this type of training is not for everyone. Thanks for posting.
The disparity between stick drills and fighting is huge, not much carryover. Knife sparring seems to be a thing now, not sure about it as in reality one stab wound usually kills someone so say going back and forth in a fight wouldn't happen.
I think the unrealistic part of knife sparring is the knife on knife element of it. At least in the US, it isn’t very likely.
hubud is just a drill to have a muscle memory to deflect attacks, you dont' use your forearm to whack your opponent's face... you use a closed fist
Forearm or Fist? It's situational. Like in dirty boxing when a hook becomes an elbow. My old coach, Rene Latosa (RIP) really based everything he did off his Cadena de Mano which he just called Filipino Dirty Boxing.
Want to see how wrong you are? A forearm hit is brutal. It'll be fun and application of hubud in real life, we can go back and forth and go eat.
My biggest problem with stickfighting is what it supposed to simulate. If its supposed to just be a stick and nothing else, then you can take a few hits, enter into a graple and do a takedown, like many people do well here, the problem is thst as these videos show, aticks arent that dangerous. If its supposed to simulate a bladed weapon i have several issues with it, as you cant take one to give one, you cant tough it out. You have to work on not getting hit. Also a stock and a metal sword move very differently both alone and when they interact with eachother.
Now i like stickfighting and i enjoy the dogbrothers. I have nothing but respect for what they do, and its fun, ive tried a bit myself. But i always leave wondering what its supposed to simulate.
Honestly, you are right 🤷♂️ i have been to 2 gatherings so far, next one in febuary in canada. Drills and pattern work is fine for beginners to develop muscle memory on diffrent angles.
The way i look at it is drills are like doing your scales in music. Any musician should be able to do some basic scales and have some tempo developed. But can you imagine if the music school you go to only works on scales? Then can you imagine if you then enter into a jazz competition? You will have less than zero chance. How can that be though? You know all the musical patterns and scales by heart?! Because nobodys playing fking scales in a jazz competition.
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I guess Mr. Doug Marcaida looks like he paddy cakes people,, or Mr. Bobby Taboada.
that plant needs care
Checkout the sayoc sparring video without head gear!
blade and kerambit does not apply to your ground bjj
Nobody strikes with the tip of the stick ... is it forbidden? An expert shielder that techniques would adopt with the stick?
Those people shown fighting are not kali practitioners, if at all they're just amateurs. As FMA GM Bobby Taboada would say, "real stick fights only last a few seconds". A hit to the right spot is crippling, as I've been hit quite a few times that for me 'flight' has always become the first option unless there's no other way out. Please watch Bobby Taboada videos.
I have. He does very good choreography.
They are Kali practicioners. It just looks different than strict cooperative FMA.
Nice shirt! cheers from 🇵🇭 🙂
You can check out Rick Young or Paul Vunak for some intro on the topics
Why do all these people think dog brothers don't grapple?
Because he's an idiot that thinks FMA is just stick tapping. He refuse to learn it because he relies on ragebait.
If those stick fighting patty cake exercises were actually effective, these guys would've been blocking & parrying strikes all over the place, and they didn't....like at all.
One thing to prove just go there arrange a real fight between a khali master and u, if u can beat a khali master its ur change to put them to shame and prove that all ur theory is correct😅
That guy had a second staff a Chinese flexible weapon. It's literally a kung fu weapon😢 But the other guy has a sdick😮
So funny!!
The issue with sparring with weapons is that we know that there are no consequences. With fake weapons you see everyone charging in and gaining hrappling advantage ,since the lack of space nulifies the use of the weapon, but put weapons in and rhey will eb more cautious.
Another self proclaimed expert person in fighting. So sad.
When did I proclaim expertise?
Come to Kzn South Africa...if you would like to see some Zulu stick fighting .
the stick is not meant to be seen or
understood, the one who understood
the stick will run far away or use gun
In a real fight.... there are no rules.
We practice with sticks a safer utility to be prepared in using bladed weapons.
They are not hitting legs. You can attack by punching with end of stick.
Yes.
Nothing new here. Back in the days in the Philippines, Escrimadors would challenge one another with "no protective gear" sometimes the matches ended in death.
My long time Balintawak instructor saw 2 duels in Cebu 5 decades ago. He was the ringside doctor for at least one of them. In one duel, one participant had the tendons shredded in the back of one of his hands in an exchange, early in the match. In the other match, one of the fighters received a depressed skull fracture and went into convulsions. These were duels between very highly skilled participants.
Armour and skill level changes a lot of things. When you can split an unhusked coconut with a strike, you have developed the ability to unleash head splitting power. There are those who can do so.
I have not made up my mind on the relevance of the Dog Bothers. I correpsonded with Marc Denny a few times, and I know one of the other dog brothers. I have met Philip Gelinas shown knife sparring in the video.
With knife sparring - just about never will happen - one or both die pretty damn quckly.
Swords - never will happen in modern time - one or both die pretty damn quickly. Theatrical sword fights are entertaining but absurd.
Denny admitted that the armour changed a lot of the dynamics of a fight.
you're looking at the wrong video. drills and sparring are different. drills looks like a choreographed fight while sparring is how you try to apply what you've learned from drills.
All you want to do is close and start breaking and tearing. I only tell you that because it is an art and is Universal and difficult to learn and requires bravery. All those punks are afraid to close the distance.
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The guys who do FMA are really insisting it's great for empty hand. Okay...join a boxing tournament and prove it. If Wing Chun can show out at boxing events, why cant you?
Great point,
Most fma hand to hand fights are illegal in the ring. What a retard take
Well the easiest way to counter the jab is by slapping the hand ...you would've understand what I'm saying if you had some experience in kali silat wing chun or jun fun gang fu for that matter..
Try watching traditional Algerian stick fighting. It is a whole different story
I’ll give it a watch. Maybe do a video on it.
watch abenir vs sison
Stick and Stick is not the same.
I don't see the use of poonyo or joint locks with the sticks. There is a lot of slapping.
Those things don't happen in real stick altercations.
Fwiw, Eskrima stick fighting is training for machetes.