If I were them, I would cut down on the number of knife steels they make. This would probably save manufacturing costs since it would simplify the process. I would focus only on 3v and magnacut (I'm not actually a fan of magnacut but everyone else seems to love it).
Aye, Jacob, I remember you saying that we are in the Golden Age of blades and although I saw just what you meant, I couldn't see how things could conceivably take a dive any time soon. It looked more like an up and up from the consumer perspective, especially given the forward leaps in quality on the Chinese production side - arguably not great for the US production side; but they were using CPM too and making some very good knives at rock bottom prices. Now within a couple weeks I hear about tariffs raising prices on import knives - not a biggie for me personally but certainly a sea change for the industry if true. Then this calamity with Crucible. Economically a far smaller issue by orders of magnitude, yet this one feels like a kick below the belt. Oof. Might just be a fairly short lived age after all. Glad my blade obsession started peaking when it did. Fashionably late, I walked in as the party was in full swing and if I am true to form, will hang out with the stragglers drinking ourselves under the table and awaiting the sunrise.
👍 Beautiful knives. While I like Magnacut and have 2 knives in this steel (Buck 110 & Buck 113) I have not been a fan of the other Crucible “super steels”. In fact, I prefer carbon steel knife blades. It is sad when a company closes, especially for their 155-160 employees, but knifemaking and the use of knives will continue.
The industry will support the alloys that are in demand. Carpenter for example already makes many of the same stuff under a different name. Not sure what will happen with something like Magnacut because the knife industry is such a small part of the steel industry, but if the demand is there and the rights are sold someone will melt it.
@drunknnirish while carpenter does make a lot of the same stuff, and is ramping up production of this stuff as we speak I'm not sure what it will mean for prices and availability. I guess we will see! Demand dictates production! So we will have to see if demand for something like magnacut would remain even if prices were to dramatically increase.
I’m not sure what’s going to happen, be that other companies fill the gap or if we see a major drop in the high end steel availability or if we just see a huge price increase on powder steels to make them profitable for companies to make. I’m interested in what big companies do because I can’t see such a large customer base liking a perceived drop in quality by going to a “lesser” steel due to availability. Whatever happens as a smaller maker it’s definitely scary. Thanks for the awesome video!
I’m always wondering if people notice any difference in real world use between steels but it’s indeed sad if Crucible falls down, it will be a loss for the knife industry for sure
Just because they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean they're closing up. A lot of companies go through a restructuring in their lifetime. It will get rid of high priced contracts etc. I hope that's the case for crucible also. US steel just got bought out by Nippon japan. That's also a possibility that crucible will be bought out too. I guess we'll see. Hope you and your family have a blessed Christmas Jacob.
@Bman-xy2vh my concern is that the restructuring could very well mean focusing on more profitable markets. I didn't know about US Steel being bought out! I hope if Crucible gets bought out it's by a US company who loves the knife industry! I'm drinking orange flavored ale8one, a kentucky exclusive! Merry Christmas!
While I want to see CPM thrive and their employees be secure in their employment, there's always licensing and selling of assets, including formulas and processes that'll keep CPM goodness alive in one form or another should the actual operation of CPM not be possible.
If I were them, I would cut down on the number of knife steels they make. This would probably save manufacturing costs since it would simplify the process. I would focus only on 3v and magnacut (I'm not actually a fan of magnacut but everyone else seems to love it).
As a hobby maker I make a lot of S35vn, and Magnacut blades.
Aye, Jacob, I remember you saying that we are in the Golden Age of blades and although I saw just what you meant, I couldn't see how things could conceivably take a dive any time soon. It looked more like an up and up from the consumer perspective, especially given the forward leaps in quality on the Chinese production side - arguably not great for the US production side; but they were using CPM too and making some very good knives at rock bottom prices.
Now within a couple weeks I hear about tariffs raising prices on import knives - not a biggie for me personally but certainly a sea change for the industry if true. Then this calamity with Crucible. Economically a far smaller issue by orders of magnitude, yet this one feels like a kick below the belt. Oof. Might just be a fairly short lived age after all.
Glad my blade obsession started peaking when it did. Fashionably late, I walked in as the party was in full swing and if I am true to form, will hang out with the stragglers drinking ourselves under the table and awaiting the sunrise.
@@dongkhamet1351 you got in at the perfect time!!!
It'll be so wild to see where we go from here!!!
The blades are beautiful
Yeah they are! Ross is an artist!
👍 Beautiful knives. While I like Magnacut and have 2 knives in this steel (Buck 110 & Buck 113) I have not been a fan of the other Crucible “super steels”. In fact, I prefer carbon steel knife blades. It is sad when a company closes, especially for their 155-160 employees, but knifemaking and the use of knives will continue.
The industry will support the alloys that are in demand. Carpenter for example already makes many of the same stuff under a different name. Not sure what will happen with something like Magnacut because the knife industry is such a small part of the steel industry, but if the demand is there and the rights are sold someone will melt it.
@drunknnirish while carpenter does make a lot of the same stuff, and is ramping up production of this stuff as we speak I'm not sure what it will mean for prices and availability.
I guess we will see!
Demand dictates production!
So we will have to see if demand for something like magnacut would remain even if prices were to dramatically increase.
I’m not sure what’s going to happen, be that other companies fill the gap or if we see a major drop in the high end steel availability or if we just see a huge price increase on powder steels to make them profitable for companies to make. I’m interested in what big companies do because I can’t see such a large customer base liking a perceived drop in quality by going to a “lesser” steel due to availability.
Whatever happens as a smaller maker it’s definitely scary.
Thanks for the awesome video!
@christianlishen1280 we will see what kind of vacuum this makes- vacuums always present opportunity!
Thanks man!
I've used quite a bit of RWL-34 as well.
@@billclancy4913 i hear about that steel a lot but have never used it!
I’m always wondering if people notice any difference in real world use between steels but it’s indeed sad if Crucible falls down, it will be a loss for the knife industry for sure
What's up guys James sent me
Likewise, subbed for the contest and ended up finding a good channel.
@TollHammer absolutely 💯
@@rickwhitson2804 glad to have yall! And I'm glad for James' friendship!
Just because they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean they're closing up. A lot of companies go through a restructuring in their lifetime. It will get rid of high priced contracts etc. I hope that's the case for crucible also. US steel just got bought out by Nippon japan. That's also a possibility that crucible will be bought out too. I guess we'll see. Hope you and your family have a blessed Christmas Jacob.
Ps. It looks like you're drinking anti-freeze.😵
@Bman-xy2vh my concern is that the restructuring could very well mean focusing on more profitable markets.
I didn't know about US Steel being bought out!
I hope if Crucible gets bought out it's by a US company who loves the knife industry!
I'm drinking orange flavored ale8one, a kentucky exclusive!
Merry Christmas!
While I want to see CPM thrive and their employees be secure in their employment, there's always licensing and selling of assets, including formulas and processes that'll keep CPM goodness alive in one form or another should the actual operation of CPM not be possible.
Another one bites the dust........Biden's theme song!!!!!
While he is auctions the border steel for basically free right now.
is this dude related to Jordan b Peterson? sounds like him
@@jaythedonrizz nope, but i get that a lot
The DBK boys are having a wake.
@@TollHammer what do you mean?
This sucks to hear.... So if the Ursus Cub was on my buy list, are you saying i should get one ASAP?
@@brianadventures9622 i would have said that before this happened haha
First one here
Com 3v my favorite is not that magnacut also
3V is a easy to make alloy that dates back to the 70s from Vasco, and could be melted by any other shop as long as the demand is there.
That’s terrible