Every time Tiff hosts she gets better and better! She is such a great host and it’s always such a delight when she’s telling the story. Her alternate views on comics and her different tastes from Sal always make for a unique view.
This whole book feels like a DnD campaign where the DM is trying to use Mephisto as a way to guide the party (Wolvie, Frank and Johnny) in a quest to kill the Devil but instead they keep derailing everything
19:22 _"Why would you assume that the motorcycle riding flaming skull guy, is the same as the other motorcycle riding flaming skull guy?"_ That's Spirit of Vengeance-ist!
Punisher: Skeptic Journal would be a great series about Frank getting tossed into cosmic/magic situations and shrugging them off as mass hallucination or conspiracy. The duo moments with Dr. Strange in Original Sin is an excellent example of how this could work.
I remember seeing an image of Punisher, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, and Blade together drawn by a former Moon Knight artist and words can't describe how much I want that team-up series.
Almost want you guys to do the circle of four which is Ghost Rider (Alejandra), X-23 (at the time that was written), Agent venom & Red hulk fighting blackheart in Las Vegas as he attempts to make it into a hellmouth. During the course of the story blackheart created evil doppelgangers/matches of our heroes for them to fight them ending with them going their own separate ways and never teaming up again. Yes its a homage to new fantastic four but seemingly also this story as well in some notable ways.
i am a simple man. i see a new pop video and before i even watch it i smash that like button. that pain in Sal's face when Tiffany said the Mackie name was priceless.
A copy of this book came with the marvel legends Black Heart figure. I got that figure at Walmart when I was 9 years old and I fell in love with comics. Not anywhere near good, but this was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. My favorite game at the time was the 2005 punisher game on PS2 and I watched the Thomas Jane punisher movie over and over. You take my favorite character and throw him in with my favorite x-man from the movies and put HIM with the most badass looking character in comics and….. a little kid eats it up. I read this back to front until the pages were ragged, and on my tenth birthday, the Ghost Rider movie is released. Again, not a great piece of media, but everything released atthis time was a 1,2,3,4 punch to get that little kid into comics and superheroes for the rest of his life.
I predict some murder, some failed pennace stare attempts and some running away. Tiff/Sal/Ethan episodes are always great (much love to Ben). Last time this happened and Ethan queried, "Is he riding on a ROAD made of SKELETONS?" I lost my shit lol. Best channel on TH-cam no question.
Oh my fucking god I love you guys!!!! This is my favorite comic of all time! I asked Benny and Rob to cover t and they never did!!! I am losing my mind right now! This is the comic that got me into comics!!!!
So, Dark Design is officially in the "Popular This Week" category on Marvel Unlimited. Either that gave you the idea for this episode, or you guys have massive influence on the comic community. I see no other reason for a decades old book to suddenly pop up there. Congrats if it's true.
truf thank you so much for letting us know!! We filmed this episode weeks ago, so maybe it did influence? Not matter what it was a ton of fun to shoot!
59:00....uhh Blackheart* my man There's this mutant at the time of this writing who was new named Birdy, she was Saber tooth's Harley Quinn before harley Quinn who had just died in October 93. Her ability was to calm minds... Just grab her soul from hell as she was a known killer and make her your soul bride
I love Romita Jr. He and his dad are two my all time favorite comic artists. That being said I do prefer JrJr work in the 80s and early to mid 90s more than modern and current stuff.
I'm delightfully surprised to see the sequel to Hearts of Darkness that I never read is getting done also. Great reactions from Sal and Ethan upon learning it was happening.
Kid Ragnarok I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen? Wait there is a sequel?
There is a sequel , Blackheart kills Mephisto in it (And then HE takes Mephisto’s place!). Also, I’m not sure if what Osborn did to Peter’s child (Or the child ITSELF!) is even still in continuity!
These two are classics! There is another cheesy team up with Wolverine, Ghostrider and Gambit vs the Brood called "Brood Trouble In The Big Easy" 👍👍👍👍👍
Regarding JRJr's Mephisto: I just read Infinity Crusade (which is truly not a good story, but possibly good back issues material to continue the Starlin nonsense). In that story, Mephisto keeps shape changing back and forth between both versions until Thanos gets pissed off and punches him in the face or something. The last time I ever remember seeing him that way is the Daredevil story Kevin Smith wrote (Guardian Devil) where Doctor Strange summoned him. I'm sure he looked like that as a tribute to the time before where DD met him that way.
Erik Mussoni I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
megamonmon I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
Heck yeah! This was my first ever comic book, along with the whole Rise of the Midnight Sons back issues. It still holds a special place in my heart despite being an obvious cash grab.
I swear every time I see or read Danny Ketch Ghost Rider speak all I hear is that kid from the old Sunny Delight commercials in the 90s! “We got milk, OJ, some purple stuff, SUNNY D? WOAH SUNNY D, ALRIGHT!!” “Now all we need is some Hot Pockets or Tostino’s Pizza Rolls! RADICAL!” .... the 90s,,, ugh.... lol
The Blood of the Innocence/Mephisto thing kinda works since Mephisto does make Ghost Rider to avenge the Innocence Blood. Why would the Devil care? Cause that stuff could kill him
King Coheed I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
I've never seen this edition of the book before. I'm used to the one with the super '90s-tastic fold out cover. Silly comic, but fun stuff nonetheless.
YES! I checked my email for first time in forever and never realized being patreon got the subjects ahead of time and stuff. Saw this and thought, holy hell wednesday get here now! plus silly 90s marvel ftw I STILL WANT MY AGE OF APOCALYPSE! when you feel like it of course
Andrew Belton I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
Omg speaking of ninja turtles wow Flo (Lucy's mom) looks exactly like April O'Neil in the first Ninja Turtles movie, WOW which also came out in 1991, so maybe 😉
I love the complete loser that is Danny, May he continue to be the worst. This was one of the "best" stories I have ever heard. Thing they will make a film of this?
I never thought I would hear the phrase, "Like a Goth Shazam." Thanks Sal
Every time Tiff hosts she gets better and better! She is such a great host and it’s always such a delight when she’s telling the story. Her alternate views on comics and her different tastes from Sal always make for a unique view.
This whole book feels like a DnD campaign where the DM is trying to use Mephisto as a way to guide the party (Wolvie, Frank and Johnny) in a quest to kill the Devil but instead they keep derailing everything
This. This comment is what I love
19:22 _"Why would you assume that the motorcycle riding flaming skull guy, is the same as the other motorcycle riding flaming skull guy?"_
That's Spirit of Vengeance-ist!
29:35 Riding the banister downstairs is the cutest way to get from one floor to another.
Punisher: Skeptic Journal would be a great series about Frank getting tossed into cosmic/magic situations and shrugging them off as mass hallucination or conspiracy. The duo moments with Dr. Strange in Original Sin is an excellent example of how this could work.
I remember seeing an image of Punisher, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, and Blade together drawn by a former Moon Knight artist and words can't describe how much I want that team-up series.
…midnight suns?
"Look to your left, now look to your right. all of you are skeletons"
- Demon summoned by dude who thought he'd make it
Almost want you guys to do the circle of four which is Ghost Rider (Alejandra), X-23 (at the time that was written), Agent venom & Red hulk fighting blackheart in Las Vegas as he attempts to make it into a hellmouth. During the course of the story blackheart created evil doppelgangers/matches of our heroes for them to fight them ending with them going their own separate ways and never teaming up again.
Yes its a homage to new fantastic four but seemingly also this story as well in some notable ways.
Sal’s no to the reveal of Lucy’s powers being hope friggin killed me.
Screw all the people that instantly thumbs downed! And shout out to all the people that instantly thumbed up!!!
YESSSSS!!!!!!!! 😆❤️👏👍😎
Fuckin-A right!
i am a simple man. i see a new pop video and before i even watch it i smash that like button. that pain in Sal's face when Tiffany said the Mackie name was priceless.
Chris Wimberley I feel people are not that big of a fan when Tiffany hosts back issues god knows why?
DAMN RIGHT!👍🏽
A copy of this book came with the marvel legends Black Heart figure. I got that figure at Walmart when I was 9 years old and I fell in love with comics. Not anywhere near good, but this was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. My favorite game at the time was the 2005 punisher game on PS2 and I watched the Thomas Jane punisher movie over and over. You take my favorite character and throw him in with my favorite x-man from the movies and put HIM with the most badass looking character in comics and….. a little kid eats it up. I read this back to front until the pages were ragged, and on my tenth birthday, the Ghost Rider movie is released. Again, not a great piece of media, but everything released atthis time was a 1,2,3,4 punch to get that little kid into comics and superheroes for the rest of his life.
I almost poked myself on all that edge on the thumbnail! LoL
I predict some murder, some failed pennace stare attempts and some running away. Tiff/Sal/Ethan episodes are always great (much love to Ben). Last time this happened and Ethan queried, "Is he riding on a ROAD made of SKELETONS?" I lost my shit lol. Best channel on TH-cam no question.
45:50
Tiffany: "She has the power of hope."
Sal: "Nnnnnnnooooooo."
Sal's response at the beginning summarizes this episode. Keep up the good work 👍
45:52 Sal's reaction to hope
I learned of Blackheart in Marvel Ultimate Alliance! He’s a boss in that game.
36:53_That face Ethan makes when Tiffany says livin on the edge is priceless. 😅
Since Tiff loves ghost rider. Y'all should do ghost riders 1973 run. That be rad.
I don't think I've ever seen Ethan so angry and frustrated before.......I love it!!!
My thoughts after the first minute: "Oh god no, 90's Marvel comics..."
38:33
This is why God doesn't talk to us anymore.
Ben looks way prettier than normal
FlashPool that's sal, I understand the confusion
GAMETHEORY: Sal and Ben are the same person
Well, The Title is very Apt, I'll give it that, thank you for telling me about a comic I didn't know about before, but want to read now!
i always feel like im on earth 2 when i see sal sitting at the end of the couch ..lol
Oh my fucking god I love you guys!!!! This is my favorite comic of all time! I asked Benny and Rob to cover t and they never did!!! I am losing my mind right now! This is the comic that got me into comics!!!!
"All I see around me is dead holograms." - Ethan
So, Dark Design is officially in the "Popular This Week" category on Marvel Unlimited. Either that gave you the idea for this episode, or you guys have massive influence on the comic community. I see no other reason for a decades old book to suddenly pop up there. Congrats if it's true.
truf thank you so much for letting us know!! We filmed this episode weeks ago, so maybe it did influence? Not matter what it was a ton of fun to shoot!
59:00....uhh
Blackheart* my man
There's this mutant at the time of this writing who was new named Birdy, she was Saber tooth's Harley Quinn before harley Quinn who had just died in October 93. Her ability was to calm minds... Just grab her soul from hell as she was a known killer and make her your soul bride
“That’s his Matches Malone persona” lol
That is the most 90's back issues title I've ever seen
_"but do you see who you're killing? It's Danny Ketch!"
*"BOO."*
Yay another Tiffany back issues! It's been too long.
I love Romita Jr. He and his dad are two my all time favorite comic artists. That being said I do prefer JrJr work in the 80s and early to mid 90s more than modern and current stuff.
The description of blackheart's powers and predicament sounds eerily similar to spawn's situation. Depleting power, rebelling against the devil
That is the most wordy comic title I have ever read. That is just insane.
Remember loving this one as a kid.
This was fantastic & hilarious! Great episode as always!
I'm delightfully surprised to see the sequel to Hearts of Darkness that I never read is getting done also. Great reactions from Sal and Ethan upon learning it was happening.
Kid Ragnarok I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen? Wait there is a sequel?
There is a sequel , Blackheart kills Mephisto in it (And then HE takes Mephisto’s place!). Also, I’m not sure if what Osborn did to Peter’s child (Or the child ITSELF!) is even still in continuity!
I really enjoyed the behind the scenes focus on John Romita Jr. Good background info.
omg i haven't even watched this yet, i just saw the title......no fricken way i just read this a few months ago....this is going to be sooo good
These two are classics! There is another cheesy team up with Wolverine, Ghostrider and Gambit vs the Brood called "Brood Trouble In The Big Easy" 👍👍👍👍👍
40:32 To answer your question Sal: to quote the great Adam Jensen "I never asked for this".
Regarding JRJr's Mephisto: I just read Infinity Crusade (which is truly not a good story, but possibly good back issues material to continue the Starlin nonsense). In that story, Mephisto keeps shape changing back and forth between both versions until Thanos gets pissed off and punches him in the face or something.
The last time I ever remember seeing him that way is the Daredevil story Kevin Smith wrote (Guardian Devil) where Doctor Strange summoned him. I'm sure he looked like that as a tribute to the time before where DD met him that way.
Erik Mussoni I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
Fun episode! Speaking of fun, you should do Thanos Wins! It’s an awesome story and super fun
Back Issues makes me happy! :3 But holy balls the thumbnail is freaking nuts.
This was one of the first comics I bought
this sound like blackheart should have a sitcom called "everybody hates blackheart"
megamonmon I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
Heck yeah! This was my first ever comic book, along with the whole Rise of the Midnight Sons back issues. It still holds a special place in my heart despite being an obvious cash grab.
Hah y'all crack me up I love your videos. Keep up the good work yall
I swear every time I see or read Danny Ketch Ghost Rider speak all I hear is that kid from the old Sunny Delight commercials in the 90s! “We got milk, OJ, some purple stuff, SUNNY D? WOAH SUNNY D, ALRIGHT!!” “Now all we need is some Hot Pockets or Tostino’s Pizza Rolls! RADICAL!” .... the 90s,,, ugh.... lol
41:02 EXACTLY, ETHAN.
Lol @ "crotch people." That's literally the WORST 😂😂😂
Mephisto's crotch is a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I wonder if ghost rider will run away again... 🤔
megamonmon he doesn't run away, he leaves... The ghost rider leaves...
SimplySam oh of course. Big difference
Howard Mackie a scribe for the ages
The Blood of the Innocence/Mephisto thing kinda works since Mephisto does make Ghost Rider to avenge the Innocence Blood. Why would the Devil care? Cause that stuff could kill him
King Coheed I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
Awesome, thanks for listening and doing this one! ^^
LMFAO "Holy water-tipped rounds" may have been the best damn quote I've ever heard on Back Issues
This book makes little sense.... but this has been an entertaining episode.
Goth Shazam is the best line I've ever heard
What's even funnier, is that the Daredevil Story Arc when he does to hell is called Heart of Darkness
I actually bought this last week, what a coincidence! LOL! 🙂
oh man this takes be back to a great place : D
Never read this but I always wondered, Punisher, Wolverine, and Ghost Rider
What the hell kind of story would that be?
41:03 Ethan's "what the fuck" is so honestly confused and angry
Yay I enjoy Tiff back issues more than I care to admit.
Favorite moments
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what parts of the comic did you enjoy?
@@charlespancamo9771 The one about the letters
I've never seen this edition of the book before. I'm used to the one with the super '90s-tastic fold out cover. Silly comic, but fun stuff nonetheless.
I freakin love Goth Shazam XD!
Punisher is one of the Best Superheros in Marvel 🖤💪🏾💪🏾💀
You gotta do All New Ghost Rider by Felipe Smith!
See the thumbnail, Alright. This will be a good time.
Thumbs up on the title alone 😂. This should be amazing lol
YES! I checked my email for first time in forever and never realized being patreon got the subjects ahead of time and stuff. Saw this and thought, holy hell wednesday get here now! plus silly 90s marvel ftw
I STILL WANT MY AGE OF APOCALYPSE! when you feel like it of course
This is one of my favorite episode even if only for Ethan's most pure and confused "What the fuck!"
I can't believe Sal never read this book back in the day
I would love to see you guys do All-New Ghost Rider at some point
This was one of the illest comics of all time
He definitely got the idea of Blackheart from a Bearcat.
to answer your question about if Blackheart can summon minor demons;
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just press the HP or HK button ...
hehehehe
Dr. Strange showed said this stupid im not wasting time or power on black heart and left the town
36:53 Its at this point Ian just stopped giving a shit about this book
So Lucy is a Danganronpa protagonist decades before it even existed...
Danny Ketch IS the only great Ghost Rider. Cant wait for Tiff to cover GR vol 3
Only like my twentieth watch through now.....
Dude!! I had this as a kid!!! Weird
I love this!
Are we going to get Saga Volume 4?
Fun fact: This was my first ever Ghost Rider comic.
Andrew Belton I think those 3 should’ve gotten their hands on Norman Osborn after what he did to Spider Man’s baby in the Clone Saga. Screw you marvel and fan girls who want people like Osborn to prosper. Also why did Blackheart have to kidnap the child. I get what Blackheart was trying to do but it is too far and illogical, wasn’t trying to mess with their pasts good enough to get them to listen?
isnt mephisto doing that in vegas rn in dr. strange?
Legion back issue?
Omg speaking of ninja turtles wow Flo (Lucy's mom) looks exactly like April O'Neil in the first Ninja Turtles movie, WOW which also came out in 1991, so maybe 😉
I don't get the whole aunt Flow Crumb joke... please explain...
41:02 ¡¡¡yeah!!! exactly
37:25 I watched ds9 since the last time watched this I burst out laughing
Cool.
I love the complete loser that is Danny, May he continue to be the worst. This was one of the "best" stories I have ever heard. Thing they will make a film of this?
That Mephisto is in Daredevil Guardian Devil too I think
It sucks
Hearts of Darkness!!