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Betting strategy that works - How to always win at betting in the long run
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2018
- When talking about betting tips, there is only one way you can win long-term when betting. It's not particularly related to a betting strategy, more the way you decide to bet.
Everybody wants to make an income from sports betting, but any betting strategy is reliant on finding value. If you use a betting strategy that is based on facts, maths and probability you will stand a chance.
If you can find value then you will make money, but it's important to understand what the odds mean so you can make an attempt at finding value.
To do this we need to look at fractional odds which bookmakers use, decimal odds which exchanges use and implied chance.
When you understand all these things you will have a fair shot at finding a decent value bet.
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"If they ran this race 10 times how many times would my horse win?"
A question all punters should ask when backing a horse. It's not always easy in big field handicaps, but certainly a worthwhile considering if backing a horse at evens or thereabout as you can clearly say 'this horse would win 7 times out of 10, therefore evens is a cracking price to back' or 'this horse would only win 3 times out of 10, therefore evens is too short'
I think people are just too focused on winning and not value.
you could ask yourself that question but the answer will always be a guess. how on earth would a person know the answer to that? how could you 'clearly say this horse will win 7/10 times?' it's just guesswork.
What a stupid question to ask yourself .. How many times would this win if the race was run 10 times ???
Nobody knows the answer , it is all hypothetical .
What a load of codswallop
@@colinglen4505 You model a market, create the odds and see if you have value
I've no idea what that means.
The odds offered do not tell you who will win. Performance on the day does. Simple
Odds predict the performance, but not the variability.
Uneducated stevie
Sure, but if you bet on odds that are very low ( like 1.07 or 1.08, etc.) you are almost always guaranteed success
@@nassimb7151 But one loss costs you 13-14 wins in this case.
The problem for most punters, they can't control their brain and heart. Once start winning, they keep on betting and lose everything eventually. Because of this, bookies win and punters reload their betting accounts, losing it all and it goes on and on and on until they end up in Graves having too much smoke and alcohol. Hope this helps 🙏
True...
Judging by the comments on here there are a lot of people who shouldn't be gambling. Peter is explaining in simple terms one of the core principles of profitable betting over time. If it's going over people's heads keep your stakes low.
It's curious the responses you get sometimes. I try my hardest!
The video makes a lot of sense, problem is of course, how do we know what the actual chance is of an event happening?
Stan Vinken
Correct Stan, at the end of the day it's all a game of opinions.
There are a number of videos where I talk about the prediction aspect of things. I will be doing some more in the near future.
Yep... actually, how do we get that "our" 40%? From the Mars? or Jupiter? :))
Most people who understand gambling know all this but almost no one ever shows you how to actually ascertain if anything is value.
See the other videos on the channel
What you are saying is "price a market better than a bookie"! But you'll need reasons or favourable/unfavourable factors on which to base your decision that an event will happen 40% of the time as opposed to the implied 33% and you don't go into this. An example would be to look at similar events historically and take a view how that applies to the current event. Example if Liverpool had won 12/16 games versus another club when they were the home side then odds implying anything less than a 75% chance of Liverpool winning should be considered generous. Or, as is the case, there hasn't been a Derby or Oaks winner (1m4f Epsom) coming from stall 1 in the last 10 years then you would need generous odds to back the horse from stall 1. We try to highlight such factor to provide the edge you refer to.
To work out what YOU think the chances are is purely subjective. On that basis - you must know your market very well indeed. It's a bit like saying Black Scholes model is perfect for working out an option's true value - you must have that piece of the jigsaw puzzle that is constantly variable - like volatility.
Thank you for telling us the name of the game. In the stock market, the name of the game is Buy Low Sell High. Hey! Simpler yet! Everyone should be able to get rich now!
Peter, how do you know if your model is correct. I have two models that I use, one for football and one for horse racing, both give me percentage chance based on historical data. Is this good enough to use?
I've added a couple of links in this video to some betting models that I have explained in depth.
one thing to bear in mind is that betfair themselves are always front running your orders. That's why when you just place an order on betfair's screens it takes many seconds for it to get filled. your orders are getting front run by betfair themselves to arbitrage your entry if possible. Between the front running, the 5% winnings tax and the premium charge betfair have the most amazing legal theft racket in history... next to income tax of course :)
If you can give me specific knowledge of where you have seen front running, I will happily follow it up with Betfair.
Amazing video. Incredibly useful.
Going to check out some of your other coverage now.
Glad it was helpful!
@@betangeltv I’m actually using the model now to see if there is any value in a couple of fixtures tonight and I’ve found two already.
Many thanks again for the analysis.
Yes but these “interesting” bets never happen - and if they do it’s for a good reason. Bookies are very sophisticated at offering odds. This video says nothing on how to win betting in football .
You can offer prices at exchange in expectation to be taken. Or if something happened in match what make prices move your way. Nobody telling you to bet at the beginning. There is tons of ways to create value at betting. You just need to consider which approach is best for you. You can place bets even at horses before start way above starting prices and expect that market volatility in in play markets do the work for you. If this is correct way to win idk. But is it way to take value definitely.
This isn't really a betting strategy - the title is very misleading. This is purely an explanation of how if you have a perceived edge over a bookmaker on value, you should bet on it - but it doesn't explain any specific strategy that determines how you come to the conclusion that you have found value.
Watch some of my other videos where I show you how to price a market and find value.
stoned and trying to take this in has made my mind melt
Paul Osborne ha ha funny as fuck ha ha
Yeah and the genius who markets this video knows that you’re stoned lol so there’s NO BETTING on the fact that you’ll click on this video..
felt like I was in a math class man
You don't need to know about odds or be smart to win in the long run, i can prove this too you right now, Albert Einstein was one of our most spectacilur humans on this eart, very good at math, but this doesn't mean he could predict that we would make memes today therefor you can win in the long run with just looking during your match and place ur bet on who seems better.
When asked how does it feel. To be the smartest person on Earth 🌎. He replied. Don't know you should ask Nikola Tesla.
I always play at school and have already won a big bag of marbles. I can't wait to play football
Don't lose your marbles
Fully understand value when betting on outcomes. Tougher for me to understand when applied to for example pre race trading. Could we not potentially open a position on a horse which is not value (in our opinion) but market sentiment is seeing the odds shorten therefore we can pick up 5 ticks easily by following the market where we didn’t necessarily see betting value. Also surely betting value is very subjective and one man’s value may not be to someone else. So is it not extremely difficult to actually know if/when you have found value in betting terms other than looking at results over many years and if you are in profit then you have. Additionally in trading is reading market movements and not actually finding value in the classical sense the key?
It's a bit harder to directly translate it to trading as such. But when prices hit extremes they tend to revert as value seekers pile into the market. The big problem is that often people do the opposite. The price gets smaller and worse value, but people feel they are missing out on a good thing and jump in with both feet.
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Back in play. A hot favourite might be 1.36 at the start. Over time their price might be as high as 2.0 if they go a goal down. They must have big favouritism stats. If drawing not so significant.
Always play the spread in football not moneyline. Record ATS with my Algorithm is 58 wins 26 lost 9 ties. 67.2 percent correct. Wager $9,510 Profit $2,195 23.1 % Return on Investment.
I just learned math i don't need an odd converter anymore😂😂
Hopefully you can convert to fractional and back, as that useful.
I feel as if someone has mashed my brains with a potato masher
and your point meaning?
@@David.L291 This isn't making any sense
how do you assume the chance of a team winning
Check out the football trading videos for my entire thought process on football and pricing.
Assumption is the mother of all fkuc ups
guessing I guess.
I like the way you explain it. Here’s a like and a comment
Many thanks
The thing is the market is essentially a function of the wisdom of crowds and it was always stump you in the long run....the crowd knows more than you do.
I've been doing this successfully for 20 years so the crowd obviously is flawed in some critical way. It is possible.
@@betangeltv I'm genuinely happy for you and long may it continue for you..
Great explanation. Thanks Peter
Glad it was helpful!
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Many thanks
A little advice for American football handicappers. If you play by Vegas's rules you'll lose. If you look to play for value, you will tend to lose. If you make any bets beyond the spread or the money line you will tend to lose.
It's like the doctor telling you to stop eating junk food and eat your fruits & vegetables. Nobody wants to do that.
You got to do your homework watch All the games. Keep in tune with Team websites weekly. Study the schedules. Notice all the scenarios i e weather, play calling, team culture, coaches, statistics, players, stadiums, history, game time, injuries and so on. Even then. You might only find a mistake in the spread maybe two to four times a regular season. You don't bet every week.
Your right on the money I'm on a 5 game streak but I do exactly as you said it's important if you do your hw on the games you will be fine I won big money on the texans and the ravens taking the ml amazing weekend then the pats took care of business as well lol
The only way to profit from having value is volume, your variance will reduce the more and more bets/trades you place and eventually your actual and expected will converge - that's the law!
shut up idiot
Yes, shut up
Thanks for sharing! Nice job
It's a pleasure, thanks for your comment.
So as a trader are we trying to take advantage of people who use this model, by spotting it in the market? or is it something which is best incorporated in a trading plan?
Value seekers tend to make prices revert, the market is always hunting the most optimal price, not always, but generally.
betangeltv...and the momentum of the price reverting could be down to supply/Demand? Thanks for the response, your videos are helpful.
People will bet to certain limits and stop when that limit is hit as they are no longer getting value.
This is from my own trading, generally speaking if you see a favourite get backed into evens from say 7/4 the value has gone and the price will bounce back because it is now too short, and on the flip side of that, a horse that has opened at evens and drifted to 7/4 has now become value and as such gets backed back in. This obviously doesn't apply to every single race and there could be genuine reasons a horse drifts and stays drifted, such as ground going totally against, bolting at the start etc but its best if you watch a few markets to get a better understanding of what i'm saying
Well explained am now following your steps.
Good luck, it can be a long journey!
Finding the best value/odds is pointless if you're not even confident in the bet itself. Bookies love people who will drop money on huge underdogs just for the sake of the value. Don't get me wrong I place bets on underdogs in mma but only because I believe they will win not just because of the great return.
I think trying to market make like this is largely defunct nowadays. I mean even the days of market makers working for the bookies are pretty much over. The bookies tend to just correlate with the exchange prices, there they can see what punters are actually willing to back/lay at. If you use some 'sophisticated' method of coming up with the 'correct' odds and the market is completely out of kilter with your predictions, you can bet your bottom dollar it's for good reason... reasons you haven't factored in. What's more likely to be wrong, your own subjective opinion and analysis, or the markets broad view based on actual money changing hands. Markets are built on the accuracy of the crowd. As for the fundamental point of this video, aka take value, yes that is the way to win, but ascertaining that value is the difficult part, and trying to find where the broad market is wrong is largely pointless and a fools errand for the reasons outlined above.
I'm not so sure. I would never bet to value but I have an automated value betting strategy now. The overrounds are very tight and the volatility so high it's presenting opportunities.
@@betangeltv Does that mean you just leave the bets on if they represent value or do you mean it gives you a good indicator when the market may turn around? I guess the latter. And what main factors does the strategy base the correct prices on or is that too complicated to go into
The other way around, I put straight bets into the market now as well as trade.
@@betangeltv That interests me a lot as I've always been a straight bettor. But I've found it harder and harder to maintain a decent ROI. And I used mainly bookmakers, with exchanges I thought trading is more profitable than straight betting because of the commission factor.
Commission is less of a problem for me as I'm a higher rate PC payer, so I'm going to pay a chunk anyhow, so value betting helps me quite a bit.
Can you please explain how do we find and understand the values ?
What value?
betangeltv I mean the edges, in the odds
I dunno i generally lose, i do the homework but i tend to place 5/6 fold football accas. I'm definitely doing something right as i usually get 4/5 5/6 correct etc but theres always that one suprise result or red card/missed penalty that lets me down!
Nick Nash Surprisingly thats all it takes
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you lose because you place accas
Then you should select system bet alteast 3/5 ,4/5 and you will earn
Well flip a coin is 50 50 but what odds on sports is just opinion.
Exactly and opinions can go against stats. Everton were 7/5 to beat Arsenal at home the other day. Everton in form and Arsenal looking shocking atm. Arsenals name alone gave Everton those odds of 7/5. I would say right now Everton would beat Arsenal atleast 6/10 time if they played 10 times this season. Therefore seeing them prices at 7/5 is great value and they won 2-1
That's all very well (and obvious really), but how do you actually calculate what the odds should be?
David Welburn , in order to do that you need all the information that your particular sport can muster and nobody has the time to do that except the statistical analysists that the sports books pay to make the line.
You don't. The bookmakers calculate the odds for you. Its up to you to know which teams are better. I tend to use season ranking charts for this. If you place on a team ranked 5th who is playing a team ranked 45th there is a pretty good chance you will get a return. Its best not to look at odds generated by the bookmakers at all as they are generated with the sole purpose of misleading you.
I show this in other videos.
Its actually a lot easier that you would think. I price markets as well as bet into them.
@@craigbeall5084 Thanks Craig; I'll bear that in mind.
the ball is round
how do bookmakers calculate odds what formular do they use?
Have a look here for how bookmakers work, but on our Tennis and Football playlists we show you how to make odds like a bookmaker - th-cam.com/play/PLVgQjBRi6AcmtMsLXFJmlM8Eabs2fi3LI.html
The book maker will always have more knowledge regarding odds then anyone also note that he makes money on the spreed
I disagree as I've been able to make good money for nearly two decades now. You only need a tiny edge on an exchange to profit in the long term. But bookmakers are much harder to bet against as they have many tricks to halt you.
@@betangeltv Thanks for the reply,would you be interested in the future to do a picks subscription service? I would love to follow your trades and of course learn from them.
The obvious teams to bet on may draw or lose matches too....Nantes 3-1 psg last week
Just watch my videos on pricing football matches.
Hey bro I really like your content and I need advice from you. I am thinking about arbitrage betting and I want to start doing it. I found a free tool called Arb Adviser, but I want to hear your opinion about arbitrage betting and this tool because you have much more experience. Is it worth it or not? Hope that you will answer my question!
I don't know about that particular service, but I started out with arbitrage. But it's limited by scale. You won't get far before you are limited or restricted somehow.
That's how I started trading on Betfair.
The correct method is bet only on live football, bet big and bet at the appropriate time. Nothing else works unless you have inside info. Having a bankroll management similar to poker holdem is also wise.
Am I wrong?
lets say the odds are man united has a odd of 2.5 and a Liverpool has odds 0.8 for the team to win
what does this mean how do i select the right team everyone goes for the higher odds but i go for odds that most likely the lowest odds just so that i can win ive always looked at leagues and my gut feeling to this day i have not yet won i play mostly 12 legs since it would be a high payout
if you reading this please advise me on a different way on betting
TIA
I think it is much safer to predict how many goals will be than who wins. For 1.5 goal which is at least 2 goals in a match, you can get a good stake. Well, maybe you not gonna make a fortune on betting goals, but you can always win something. Plus, you don't have to worry that your team is loosing, cause you bet a number of goals, not the winner.
If Mun United played against Liverpool I'd say there would be at least 2 goals.
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Toppie
I try to figure out I get lost in in this can you try to explain
This is value betting, betting when you think you have a margin of error over the market.
so are u saying we should always place a bet at its lowest percentage ant the highest which the bookmakers have given us
Highest odds
'How to always win at betting in the long run'...... Be a bookie....end of..!!
This is a scam folks, don't get sucked in.
Based on your comment you haven't even watched the video.
nah it is not a scam, the actual problem of betting still remains .. figuring out what the actual chances of a bet winning are ... the explanation only helps you to discard bets that are not worth taking to begin with
Is there any particular software that can help us?? No worries to pay a subscription.... And what is the ROI in one month for example
Its not a scam its simple maths, it looks like you have tried trading and its not worked out for you, you say only way to win is be a bookie, yes youre on the right track there, if you can lay a horse at less than its chances of winning you are indeed being a bookie , to be able to do this though as a regular punter you need to be able to race read , form read and take a position at lower odds than sp in running, if you feel the horse will lose you are laying off at a much lower price with less risk.
How is it a scam. If you make such a statement. You need to elaborate on your opinion.
Yeah but like, in the nfl anything can happen like a guy catching the ball with his helmet in the super bowl. Or a super favorite coming out and laying an egg. You really never know, that’s why it’s gambling.
Just a smaller factor on a bigger equation.
The theory behind this is impeccable, the problem is that almost no-one who bets has any idea of how to go about assessing what a 'true' or 'fair' price for a horse or team should be and just goes off 'feel' or 'intuition'. If you have been betting on horses for a long time this can actually get you quite close, especially at the top of the market where there are some horrendous looking favourites that can be layed with impunity. It gets more difficult if you prefer betting at longer prices because if you can back a 10/1 shot at 16/1 thats great value...but it is still a 10/1 shot! :-)
That's why what hes talking about is largely academic. No one knows the true 'implied odds' of something occurring. There are probably many ways to ascertain some sort of arbitrary figure but each way would provide a different one.
@vj lockett This is not a get rich quick scheme, it's just an informative video and its something that I've been doing successfully for 18 years and yes, I shared a lot of my knowledge and made a lot of money doing it. I've learnt that it doesn't matter how successful you are or what knowledge you pass on, some people will still rally against you. In a nutshell that's how I am still doing it after all this time. The free trial is to do with the software, nothing to do with a system or process.
There are only 3 ways of making money in the long run in betting. Nr 1. is arbritage betting Nr 2. is live betting on something that jus happened and hope to bwat the bookies on that bet. Nr 3. is betting on fixed matches.
You need to add Betfair trading to that list.
What you say in the first couple of mins is fundamentally wrong. If you bet £100 at 9/4 you get £325 back and make a PROFIT of £225
The right staking plan can make a huge difference. You can turn a break-even (or slight loss) method into a winning strategy with staking.
How much should the least amount of bankroll to start with be
You can started with quite small banks. But most people struggle to build from there as they are often into a bit of rush to start raising stakes. So you should try to resist that.
Fantastic insight right there...will definitely try it
Great explanation as always, Peter! What about the commission? Does an 11% edge mean I would win 11 for each 100 I bet? If so, do I have to take out the commission on the 11 I won?
Cheers!
The commission will reduce your net win and eat into your edge so it always makes sense to take account of that and pay as little as possible. It's not quite as easy as that as people often calculate commission incorrectly.
Is this possible to apply for two exits markets?
Not sure what you mean there?
Don’t bet.....then you always win! 👍
Looking for betting groups any lead?
It`s quite funny to see how many people here are completely clueless. If you dont understand simple mathematics and the concept of value dont bet please
I think this summarises the market pretty well. People bet on something to win but have little sense of whether it is value or not.
For real am clueles
phil do don’t bet in general I’d say
Why did you add 1 to the bookmaker odds?
The 1 would represent your stake
you assumed 40percent..how do you do that
You have to create a model based on something to come up with the percentages. That's up to you in terms of how you want to do that.
Its an assumption. Nothing more.
What a leged💪
Hi, Do you follow cricket? Make some videos on that too.
My time is full trading Tennis, Racing and Footy so I haven't made much time to add cricket to the mix. But it is a vibrant market. I just subscribe to the view I shouldn't be issuing advice on stuff that isn't core to what I do.
Very insightful
This is very confusing. I don't quite understand that.
Why did you add 1 to 2.25 I don't get it.
It's your stake. You need to add that back into the equation.
Ooh thanks I get it now and have you made any videos on football betting yet ?
how did you calculate that there is 40% chance of winning????
See some of the other football videos where I describe what I am looking at.
@@betangeltv ok, link?
Just watch the football playlist and you will see me doing it.
Thanks a lot!!!
Piłka jest okrągła, a bramki są dwie.
Is there a way to guarantee wins in the long run?
Trading is the best thing I have found to profiting consistently in the long run.
can u send game 4 me
Your logic is flawed imo, the only real "edge" one can have is estimating better than others what will be the most likely outcome of an event. Getting the best price is a great bonus but as others have mentioned how to find what most call "value" is the most important criteria. Value means finding a winning bet with the best odds of winning within the event, whatever it is. The video is titled "How to always win at betting in the long run", so how is loosing with the best price going to make anyone money in the long term? It won't but even having the worst odds on a winning bet is still going to make money.
Well, I think that's a given, if you have no edge whether it's in execution or pricing better than others then you can't win. I just wanted to get across the concept of value here.
MountainProspector you're thinking about this incorrectly. Finding 'winning bets' is not going to make you money unless you're getting getting value odds. And saying 'how is a losing bet with the best price', doesn't really make sense. If you have a better price than the true probability of said event occurring you're going to make money because the event will happen more often than what the odds you get suggest. Trying to find 'winners' is the wrong thing to do. You should try to find good value and the winners will simply come due to the law of probabilities.
Do you have a Facebook or telegram group where we can play your games ?
We just provide software and advice for trading on Betting Exchanges - www.betangel.com
how can u find the 40 percent ????
I've done a lot of videos on analysis on football. You will have to price the market and figure out if you have an edge.
Small odds with big money
I'm with you on that
true but by the time you win you've probably spent tht amount on previous failed bets... ofc there's no wrong way to bet everyone has their own way... me I prefer the safe bet route... I like just putting more money on a favourite and I'm willing to get back less. Either way can win you cash ofc... I believe a lot of ppl bet like me because they like winning.... and a lot of ppl bet like u guys because they dont mind waiting for a big reward! am I right in thinkin there's two groups of bettors.... ones like u guys and ones like me? Im curious to see how the majority bet...
Favourites have a tendency to be overbet for that exact reason.
I mean barca got beat by real betis who are 10th in the table betting dont make sence at all
You are unlikely to get value on Barca, so it fits quite nicely.
@@betangeltv what do you suggest in such cases? How do we bet on such matches?
Whenever Barça is playing, either big or small team, the value bet is over 2.5, staking on Barça winning in any match won't fetch you enough returns, Barça was given odds 1.18 against real Betis which is too small. Over 2.5/3.5 is preferable.
Ye we work all that out, then a 20/1 wins. Still no chance
It's all about finding value in the long term, you will get odd results in either direction.
betangeltv surely u just back favourites then
Everybody has an opinion on the favourite and therefore its rarely value
The question is how you come up with the 40%.
Watch some of the other videos on my channel for the answer, specially the football ones.
betangeltv Thanks I’m a horse man mostly.
Why is it illegal in some nations ?
Local lawmakers want to keep tax revenue in under their control, generall speaking.
@@betangeltv unfortunately, I am jealous of you people from the UK. Paying 0 tax for your earnings.
Vaibhav Yadav that’s why betting is allowed here....cos it makes soooooooooooo much tax for the government
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What he is trying to explain is called GAMBLER'S FALLACY (please google) . Trying to create a value bet in between your estimation and the bookmaker's is the most stupid thing a gambler can make.
Gambler's fallacy relates more to people 'thinking' that something will revert to mean after a run in one direction or not.
@@betangeltv and that's exactly what you are relating in your video
No, you model a price and bet to that value. Not think that three heads and a tail means heads has a 75% chance. I do talk about models elsewhere on the channel.
At the end of the day it's just your luck , today I had a 1/50 on my acca and it lost
what’s the point in that😂
Is no luck but only the way how you bet ...mixing between valuebets odds , a good cumulated of 3 or 4 matchs with safe probability ...just need to be right 15 percent of time to be winner
Someone who doesn’t understand value would say it’s luck. Nothing is worth a bet at the 1/50,especially pre start.
If you always win why make this video? you make million of $ every day.....
I have made millions but nobody believes me because the industry is full of people who pretend to be successful. Doing so will always be harder. But as I've proved, even if you give people the information. It doesn't mean people will use it.
@@betangeltv If you prove i will do. But is difficult to believes because a lot of scammer in this industry.
I've proved it again and again, but still nobody listens. I've pretty much given up trying to convince people. It's their problem if they can't see it in all honesty.
@@betangeltv Hi Peter please dont give up on those willing to learn the ways of professional trading and make a living with it. We are out here and we are listening. Thanks for all your videos and content. You've got a fan and avid listener here.
ser 18 2020 best odd you sure 2.25
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I've no idea what that means.
Was happy until you just go I think it’s 40 percent hahahah. Ok why is that where did you get that number from. Also aren’t you essentially just identifying arbs. Which is a fantastic way to get bet restricted anyway. Why not just match bet hahaha
There’s also numerous calculators to do this with no spreadsheet this is soooo unbelievably time consuming
It's an explanation
Just going to say this, only way to win from bookies is by abusing the bonus system, any other strategy is foolish!!
Try using a betting exchange.
@@betangeltv, tried but bankroll plays an important aspect, I do understand what your explaining however I rater abuse the bonus so I can win regardless of the outcome, now I do use a system similar to what your explaining right now, but that is just to establish what team I'm picking in the account that does not have the roll over attached. (also only do 2 way propositions covering both sides) to me everything is about earning money be it 1% OR 10% per event, I do not care for the market, neither teams, not doing it for the trill nor the excitement, Its all about the $$
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Pete you need see the doctor...every video you post your head seems to me be getting bigger.
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As any knowledge increase my head to do adapt to fit it all in.
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This is a tough subject to convince people who dont already understand what you mean, to seek value. I already understand value but you lost me very early on. Good try through. What you didn't explain is how do people know what is or isn't value.
I think that would have to be a separate video.
I think the video is excellent for people of most abilities. Surely something being value is if it is a bigger price than the price you think it should be, i.e. the price is 5-2 when your calculations say it should be 2-1. There is the value right there, if the price is 15-8 when it should be 2-1 then it isn't value.
ok Tom, you seem to know what you're talking about so I will ask you .... what do you mean by 'your calculations?' what calculation are you doing? how does one come to a decision on a price that differs from that of a professional book maker? tell me the process for working out your own price because at the moment it seems to be something imagined or plucked out of thin air.
@@colinglen4505 unlikely you will find value with a bookmaker. Id imagine calculating the true odds of something is very complex because theres so many factors but maybe people can size up a good guess from past performance combined with a lot of other things. Imagine a favourite horses price has been pushed down to 1.2 for no reason and because of bookmakers have just hedged it on the exchange. You also look at the form and behaviour on tv and its not great, plus you have inside knowledge from the stable keeper that its been up at night and that the 2nd favourite trainer has been making the 2nd favourite hold back until today. You can form a rough idea in your head that the chance of the favourite winning is clearly less than 83% so that would be obvious value to lay. However the markets are generally efficient at pricing and this would be unlikely to happen to most people. Certainly its not the way that i would trade
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