unfortunatelly touch version is much faster when calculating path or scrolling map. Links to videos in which some people calculates times of responses: th-cam.com/video/FPScjFClZhU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/GcFQ4uHhWBg/w-d-xo.html
The stuff you describe is exactly why I decided to buy an etrex 30x with the "annoying" nub and all the buttons. Those work with gloves on and in the rain, no problem.
Great tip, Thanx... I have that 25 model and try to find out if that thing has bluetooth to connect it with a mobilephone. What model is that and do you have bluetooth?
Thank you very much Long Ranger. Thanks to your video, it has helped me greatly in deciding on whether to get the Etrex Touch 35 or some other unit and I don't want to experience the frustration that you have experience in wet weather so I will try to invest in a non-touch model. Thanks again
@The Long Range Hi, thanks for a nice video about the touch screen issues. I have a question about battery life. As the screen thinks it's touched it means that the battery life is lower? And how is it with a map when you always get alert that the screen is locked? Do you see the map or you have to wait until the alert disappeared? Thank you very much
The backlight is the biggest drain on the battery that you can adjust (so dim it), followed most likely with how often the unit records a position. I haven't found that the alert about the unit being locked will drain the battery. You would need to dismiss the alert to see the screen again. If I'm interacting with the screen, say when navigating off-trail on a hike, I most likely have the unit unlocked.
Mind if I ask whay you chose etrex touchscreen over Oregon series? I'm a mountain biker my self and looking for perfect gps device for riding and also planning to mount the device on my handlebar.
Good question. It may have been that the 35T was just a little cheaper, smaller, and weighed less - plus I was coming from the eTrex 20. The Oregon series I believe does support charging via its USB cord in-unit, which is a nice plus. I question how the battery life of both could be the same, since the Oregon 700 has a larger screen, pushing more pixels out. Love to have a few units to play around with to do these sorts of comparisons.
Your experience mirrors mine somewhat; unit does not work in 1. Rain 2. Cold (less than -10c) 3. Heat (> 25c) 4. Gloves 5. Random unexplained events (screen starts flashing through multiple images in seconds, or as you noted, language changes inexplicably. I'm not sure why, but this appears to be related to the touch screen technology itself. If I had known the numerous instances this unit does not work in, I would have opted for the older 'toggle' control models, or something without a Garmin label. Sadly this unit has failed multiple times despite all the firmware updates and trying to adjust settings.
I agree that the joystick on the "etrex 32x" is a BIT annoying to use - but it also has 9 HOUR (!!!) longer battery life than the "etrex 35", and i think this is much more important than the small disadvantage of not having a touch screen. Together with a battery efficient compact camera, i think a "Lightsaver Max" solar panel will be more than sufficient for my power needs :P
Looks like a good bump in specs for the 32x. I can't say I'll ever go back to the nubbin' for navigating the screen. If you need to look at the actual map for navigation, it's just useless. The battery specs of the 32x are nice, but do remember that the unit takes AA's, so you can always bring along another pair on (very) long trips. Also note the 32x has a much smaller screen (although the resolution is much better). If you're looking at maps a bunch, that may be an issue.
If you navigate around the map, it's much easier by touch, than that little nubbin. If you're just following a preprogrammed gpx track, it's really a wash.
@@TheLongRanger thanks, wow that was fast. I'm asking because I always locked it but still got random activity and total freezes that I could only fix by taking the batteries out.
So, you started the video by saying the regular no-touch screen isn't' practical and is frustrating. It seems to me that what you describe about the eTrex Touch is frustrating and defeats the purpose of an outdoor all-weather unit. The interface of the buttons eTrex is adapted to the buttons and it is very practical.
I think there's two issues. One, is that navigating on a map with the nubbin' of the regular eTrex is fairly frustrating. The Touch model feels much more usable in this sense. I do wish the touch in the Touch model was better, for sure - getting it wet does cause issues with using the unit to do anything. So, the solution to one causes a different problem, I guess it's a compromise. In the (perfect) future, I hope that those touch issues can be improved.
Hah! You just talked me out of getting a touch-screen eTrex. I'll stay with my old ones.
good call, mine drove me nuts and its been at the bottom of a drawer since a few years now.
unfortunatelly touch version is much faster when calculating path or scrolling map. Links to videos in which some people calculates times of responses: th-cam.com/video/FPScjFClZhU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/GcFQ4uHhWBg/w-d-xo.html
The stuff you describe is exactly why I decided to buy an etrex 30x with the "annoying" nub and all the buttons. Those work with gloves on and in the rain, no problem.
Great tip, Thanx... I have that 25 model and try to find out if that thing has bluetooth to connect it with a mobilephone. What model is that and do you have bluetooth?
This is the eTrex Touch 35, which does have Bluetooth. I don't see Bluetooth in the specs from the 25
@@TheLongRanger thanx for the quick answer. The Manual is for both models, thats why i was confused the Bluetooth function. My Bad, Thanx again
@Säblinger no problemo! enjoy the unit!
Do you know if this can be used as a motorcycle speedo? Thanks.
The way to rain is also to reduce the sensitivity of the touch screen in the settings. Select Setup > Accessibility > Touch Sensitivity
Excellent tip, I'll have to play with that setting
Thank you very much Long Ranger. Thanks to your video, it has helped me greatly in deciding on whether to get the Etrex Touch 35 or some other unit and I don't want to experience the frustration that you have experience in wet weather so I will try to invest in a non-touch model. Thanks again
I sorta like that nubby thingy on my eTrex 10.
@The Long Range
Hi, thanks for a nice video about the touch screen issues. I have a question about battery life. As the screen thinks it's touched it means that the battery life is lower? And how is it with a map when you always get alert that the screen is locked? Do you see the map or you have to wait until the alert disappeared?
Thank you very much
The backlight is the biggest drain on the battery that you can adjust (so dim it), followed most likely with how often the unit records a position. I haven't found that the alert about the unit being locked will drain the battery. You would need to dismiss the alert to see the screen again. If I'm interacting with the screen, say when navigating off-trail on a hike, I most likely have the unit unlocked.
Mind if I ask whay you chose etrex touchscreen over Oregon series? I'm a mountain biker my self and looking for perfect gps device for riding and also planning to mount the device on my handlebar.
Good question. It may have been that the 35T was just a little cheaper, smaller, and weighed less - plus I was coming from the eTrex 20. The Oregon series I believe does support charging via its USB cord in-unit, which is a nice plus. I question how the battery life of both could be the same, since the Oregon 700 has a larger screen, pushing more pixels out. Love to have a few units to play around with to do these sorts of comparisons.
I avoided the touch screen and bought a 32X.
You simply cannot carry a GPS that can "do random stuff in your pocket".
Your experience mirrors mine somewhat; unit does not work in 1. Rain 2. Cold (less than -10c) 3. Heat (> 25c) 4. Gloves
5. Random unexplained events (screen starts flashing through multiple images in seconds, or as you noted, language changes inexplicably. I'm not sure why, but this appears to be related to the touch screen technology itself. If I had known the numerous instances this unit does not work in, I would have opted for the older 'toggle' control models, or something without a Garmin label. Sadly this unit has failed multiple times despite all the firmware updates and trying to adjust settings.
I wonder if it's your unit, I regularly use it when temps hit over 100 degrees F.
I agree that the joystick on the "etrex 32x" is a BIT annoying to use - but it also has 9 HOUR (!!!) longer battery life than the "etrex 35", and i think this is much more important than the small disadvantage of not having a touch screen. Together with a battery efficient compact camera, i think a "Lightsaver Max" solar panel will be more than sufficient for my power needs :P
Looks like a good bump in specs for the 32x. I can't say I'll ever go back to the nubbin' for navigating the screen. If you need to look at the actual map for navigation, it's just useless. The battery specs of the 32x are nice, but do remember that the unit takes AA's, so you can always bring along another pair on (very) long trips. Also note the 32x has a much smaller screen (although the resolution is much better). If you're looking at maps a bunch, that may be an issue.
the touch screen is the reason why i am still using my 30x. touch screen don't make sense this series of products.
If you navigate around the map, it's much easier by touch, than that little nubbin. If you're just following a preprogrammed gpx track, it's really a wash.
ok but does this also fix the random activity while it's living in your pants pocket?
Yeah, if you lock the screen, you're gtg
@@TheLongRanger thanks, wow that was fast. I'm asking because I always locked it but still got random activity and total freezes that I could only fix by taking the batteries out.
One could always buy a waterproof smartphone pouch for $10-$20. If it works for a smartphone on a jet ski I'm positive it'll work for gps in the rain.
Too much woffle and antics getting to the point! But the last few minutes were useful, thanks.
I added some chapters, as that's now a thing
cette vidéo n'est plus d'actualité. Je possède ce GPS et je n'ai aucun problème cité dans cette vidéo !
Si cela est la cause, alors vous êtes chanceux!
So, you started the video by saying the regular no-touch screen isn't' practical and is frustrating. It seems to me that what you describe about the eTrex Touch is frustrating and defeats the purpose of an outdoor all-weather unit. The interface of the buttons eTrex is adapted to the buttons and it is very practical.
I think there's two issues. One, is that navigating on a map with the nubbin' of the regular eTrex is fairly frustrating. The Touch model feels much more usable in this sense. I do wish the touch in the Touch model was better, for sure - getting it wet does cause issues with using the unit to do anything. So, the solution to one causes a different problem, I guess it's a compromise. In the (perfect) future, I hope that those touch issues can be improved.
The last minute was helpful, all the rest was a waste of time
I added some chapters.
Ok then the device can be silenced and locked in a very simple way. I wonder where's the problem about it.
when you want to use it in moist environment or with gloves, that's where the problem comes. i have no such issues with 30x.
FFS, CUT THE WAFFLE AND TELL US WHAT TO DO BEFORE USING IT IN THE RAIN!
Time machine is broken, but I do believe the video chapters work