I will never not find it funny that the class of rookies for 2001 was: Juan Pablo Montoya, the reigning CART champion, who would go on to win several F1 races Kimi Raikkonen, who won a world championship and set a record for most F1 race starts Fernando Alonso, who won *two* world championships, broke Raikkonen's race start record, and is considered one of the greatest drivers in F1 history ...and Enrique Bernoldi
@@inahole2678 again, a simple google search, if you want to do something, maybe search it and make sure to do it right, portuguese and spanish might be similar, but they are not the same thing, saying this as a brazilian!!
@eoincassin4265 show me a car hulk has had that could've gotten him a podium, he's had about 3 chances to get one, overdriving rubbish cars, if hamilton said no to mercedes when he moved, hulk was the next option, he's underrated not overrated imo
@@eoincassin4265 podiums arent everything you know. Magnuseen had a podium and still lost to Hulk, he is still one of the best midfielf drivers of the last decade.
He will destroy Hulk, you heard it here first. He is a future multiple time world champ. I called Max on day 1 too, fan since 94. Avid watcher of F2 and F3.
Nice video and arguments. Since Ayrton's death, most of brazillians roasted (even on television) Barrichello, Massa, Nasr, Da Matta, etc. just because they weren't ultra winners like Senna. Barrichello was the only who suffered more, they started to call him Rubinho Pé-de-chinelo (something like Rubens flip flop) and made musics like "Sempre atrás do Alemão" (Everytime behind the german). This happens because brazillians don't like sports, they like to win. Just see how tennis, a rich boys sport in Brazil, becoming popular out of nothing just because Guga started to win. Most of Bortoleto's and F1 Brazillian fans are already planning campaigns to "teach" people that will come back to watch the sport saying basic things like "He's not going to be a new Senna. He's not going to make a Monaco '84 in a Sauber. His results don't depend only on him". We reeeeally don't want to see Bortoleto suffering the same things again, it would be a nightmare. PS.: Gringos, please, stop to confuse spanish and portuguese for the love of God
Brazil had three decades of great drivers with Fittipaldi, Piquet Sr. and Senna too, it certainly didn't help Barrichello at the time as it was seen that he'd be the Brazilian champion for the 2000s. I feel like the culture around sports is changing here, Brazil is starting to appreciate sports more than the taste of glory, maybe we realized that it shouldn't be taken for granted. And not having Rede Globo hogging the spotlight and giving a damn about something only "when it matters" is helping out as well.
The consensus among the Brazilian press is that Bortoleto was just okay in the lower categories, which made the F3 and F2 titles so surprising. Something seemed to click for him once he got to F3. But I don't think the comparison to Bernoldi is that appropriate because Bernoldi wasn't that hyped. Cristiano da Matta was hogging the limelight in Brazil because of his success at CART at the time.
I listened to the entire video and I still feel like I'm missing context. If this doomposting just boils down to Bortoleto driving for a hopelessly slow team, may I remind you that a certain Australian bloke with a thing for drinking champagne from shoes made his F1 debut in 2011 with HRT, scored 0 points, finished 27th in the standings, and yet would still go on to have a very respectable career.
You do have a point, but the environment was a different one back then. The grid these days is stacked with fast drivers and Lance Stroll, and there are numerous young ones waiting to take their chance. If you don't deliver, you're a goner, and there's no second chance because the stream of people doesn't stop.
We’ve got 2 rookies without much pressure to immediately perform (Bortoleto, Antonelli) and 1 who has so much pressure to perform the team already has a replacement lined up preemptively (Doohan)
There are only 6 Formula 1 drivers that won the F2 championship in their first year. They are: -Lewis Hamilton -Nico Rosberg -Charles Leclerc -George Russell -Oscar Piastri -Nico Hülkenberg And now Bortoleto is joining them as the seventh. That's not a bad crowd, is it?
A lot of these drivers are from GP2, so shouldn't we include other variants and previous iterations as well e.g. the official FIA F2 that opposed GP2 in the early 2010s or the original european f2. Which while that adds other big names like Ickx it also adds people like Andy Soucek who went onto spend 5 years without another drive until he had a few years doing very little in gt racing
Lewis didn't win in on first trial, but that gamble absolutely paid off. He decided against going F1 twice in F3, he was offered, he said no, he didn't win on first trail in f2, he still rejected f1 until he won.
Bortoleto will also need to break the curse of the Brazilian champions in F2/GP2/F3000 in their F1 careers: - Roberto Moreno: 15 career points and one podium (P2 at Japan 1990). Besides his Benetton run, he spent most of his F1 career in hopeless backmarker teams. - Christian Fittipaldi: Won the F3000 title as rookie. He would spend three seasons in Minardi and Footwork with three 4th places as best results. 12 career points. - Ricardo Zonta: After two seasons with BAR, he would only appear sporadically for Jordan and Toyota. Three 6th places as best results and 3 career points. - Bruno Junqueira: Was close to joining Williams but lost in a shootout against Jenson Button. He would never debut in F1. - Felipe Drugovich: Has been a reserve driver for Aston Martin since he won the F2 title but is yet to debut in F1.
So what if he's the first in 8 years? Things aren't in his favor, they might try to keep him around due to potential popularity and sponsors for a region if he doesn't perform but with the amount of rookies coming up in one year, there's bound to be one or two duds whether by circumstance or underachieving.
@ Nyck de Vries and Mick were also F2 Champions, just because you win on the way up. It doesn't mean success is guaranteed especially when you're teammate is one of the most experienced and consistent drivers going today. I truly hope he surpasses expectations nad has a Colapinto like start, but the situation he's in is worrisome. Hopefully he and Hulk stay until the transition with Sainz replacing Hulk (if he begins to underperform) but if not they may just got with two experienced drivers to help with the beginning of Audi.
I expect Bortoleto to be a few tenths behind Hulkenberg most of the season, but I do expect him to beat Hulk in a few races or qualys. There is something about this guy that gives me the impression we'll watch him for more than a year.
Dude 2025 would be a write off for both yuki and liam max has had the knowledge of that car for years and years. It's 2026 where it matters most. New regs, new car. If he can't stack up to max THEN there's issues.
Agreed, I think Lawson probably won't do too well, but also, what's RedBull gonna do? they're not putting Yuki there. Putting Hadjar would be insane (we've sure have seen stuff like this from them so you never know lol...), so like. I don't know!
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@Josh Revell you realize that this outro song is a spanish song n not a brazilian portuguese one right? the biggest insult to a brazilian is telling them they speak spanish.
@harry4454 a video about a brazilian, that song at the end was to REPRESENT Bortoleto and where he came from, what the fck do u mean "who tf cares"? Pay attention.
Lack of parity in F2 is waaaayyyyy overblown. Its the same as its always been. Only major difference is because it was a new car it meant every team had a chance instead of just a couple. If it was Prema clean sweeping everyone i guarantee you people wouldn't be as harsh on the series as they have been this year. Everyone has an agenda and their favourites seem to be getting Mechachromed when they do poorly.
If Bortoleto is somehow able to beat Hulk, he must be a generational talent! I'd count it a success if he can hang in there with him for his first season. Can't wait to find out...
Consistency is the key word when talking about Bortoleto Josh, a few times that is something that he himself said in some brazilian podcast. That consistency in the junior categories is the key, i hope he keeps that in F1 even though you need more than that in F1
Keeping up with your teammate is the main goal of f1. But for Bortoleto, his teammate is Hulkenberg, who is bloody fast (didn't get called the Super Sub for no reason). Antonelli is in the same boat, with Russell as his teammate - Russell being bloody fast. Our rookies this year have got a hard time in for them. Except Bearman, who only has Ocon to compete against (sorry Estie)
Brazilian here, I REALLY didn't want the next brazilian in the F1 grid to drive for such a shitshow of a team, both in performance and management, but we take what we can get. I'm being realistic, I don't expect points, I don't expect him to "outperform the car", I just expect the same consistency that he had in F3/F2, and staying close to hulk. Still, as much as it pains me to write this, I don't expect him to last more than 4~5 years in F1, unless either him or the team REALLY gel with the next gen of engines/regulations
Another Brazilian here. I'm with you about being a little skeptical about Bortoleto. But I see something different about him, and it's not really that famous "natural talent/speed" that people love to talk about rookies. Instead I see two very strong points that can help him: 1) He IS a very intelligent driver. I can see him in the future being someone like Carlos Sainz (which means, no world champion, but a couple of wins, many podiums and a solid career, compensating the "lack of raw speed" with brains); 2) He seems to have a very good staff around him. So far he's being very grounded about expectations, very humble and open to anything. For example, after he won F3 and was giving interviews everywhere he had very clear what his window would be to get into F1 and wasn't scared to look for other categories as soon as he realized F1 wasn't gonna happen (unlike another Brazilian currently). So I'm not very hyped but if the opportunity arises I think he can have a solid career in F1.
The precieved management issues are just that a perception, AUdi in every German interview they did about F1 they were commiting everything they have to offer to it. Heck they pinched out of a very succesfull dakar and lmp prorgamm to start f1.
@@evandrochaves9596 let's not forget that we may get another huge driver market move at the end of 2026 and/or 2027. Alonso, Lewis and Hulk may retire (because of age); Stroll may retire because of lack of skills; Max may retire because he's sick of FIA's BS. Yuki probably will retire this year. So if Bortoleto can hold his own for a couple of years, some vacancies on better teams may show up. Let's hope!
I don't think Sauber will have a shitbox like this year's, so I expect him to get a couple points. He may not be as flashy as Antonelli or Bearman but he has a consistency and race craft you don't tend to see in young drivers. He'll stay for a long time, don't worry
Bortoleto is quite smart, I've seen him in brazilian podcast and you see he understands where he gets to, and having Fernando Alonso as your mentor... he probably already gave him so much advices about de paddock that only him would know
I hope Borto gets the chance he deserves and he might be in a good spot at Sauber. Sure the car has been a wheeliebin in the last couple of years, but they gave Zhou 3 seasons, so I hope this is the least he can expect! I wish him, and all of the other rookies the best of luck for 2025
@ricardopetrere fair point, but still Sauber has been a decent proving ground over the years of its existence. I hope they give him the same chance as they gave Charles or Kimi to name a few. I'm not saying Bortoleto is on their level, but he seems to have what it takes, so I hope they give him time to adjust and get up to speed
@@tomm1413 As a Brazilian myself, I hope as well! 🙏🏻 I'm not sure if we can take Sauber's legacy into consideration, considering the takeover by Audi. For me, it's ground up with this team
I'm honestly hoping that he's Alonso's hand-picked successor at AM. (Provided, of course, that Lance fucks off and AM signs a real WDC contender to pair with Bort)
I'm going to say it, he's here to stay for a long time. I followed him from F3 to F2 and very few drivers have been as impressive. From all the 2025 rookies he is the real deal.
So long as he doesn't drown, I'd count that as a success. Hulk being one of the bigger "What Ifs" of the 2010s doesn't help in that respect, as teammates are the foremost point of comparison, but Borto will give it his best shot, of that I have no doubt. Will it be enough? We'll find out.
I know the titles to Josh's new videos The reason Antonelli is doomed The reason bearman is doomed The reason hadjar is doomed The reason Lawson is doomed Why doohans replacement colapinto is doomed Im all for it!
F1 Rookies have these expectations because it is Formula 1. These are supposed to be the 20 best in the world, even if Lance Stroll still has a seat. Compassion and tempered expectations are not terms that can correlate in Formula 1. You either make it, or you don't. Not very many drivers get these opportunites to race, so in my opinion, the goal is to always beat your teammate and score the most points possible. This is the cruel side of F1 and these rookies will find out if they are able to keep up or if they will drown.
I see what you're doing here, Josh. Your talking bad about Bortoleto so that he can be good in the Sauber, and not jinx him in the slightest. Reverse Psychology 5-D Chess
I just really really want Franco Colapinto and Bortoleto to do real well this year. you can probably guess where I'm from lol. And taking a look at the rookies you just think, there's no way ALL of them do well... ofc I'm already discounting Doohan here, sorry. I think Lawson and Hadjar might drown too. I'm thinking that Kimi has a good shot at impressing a lot (maybe getting a podium/s, or if that Mercedes is third best car and luck is on his side, a win? 👀) coupled with rookie mistakes and inconsistency. Ollie Bearman is the ture question mark for me 🤔 sure did real good at the races he was at last year, but still... I would love to see you continue your apparent series of videos on the rookies Josh!
I'd imagine that other than Doohan (and maybe Lawson), the other rookies will have a long leash. In other words, "if you're at least better than Lance, you can stay" And that's how it should be for rookies; if they're not a complete embarrassment (Haas 2021), they should be allowed to grow at their current seats
I only remember Bernoldi because to this day I play Grand Prix 4, my first F1 game ever as a child. Great game of the 2001 season. There was also Alex Yoong xD
I love your videos but I think this time you're wrong. My vote for a doomed rookie this season, besides Jack (who will be replaced by Colapinto even before the six races of his contract), is Kimi. Carlos should be in that seat and Kimi should be getting experience on a Williams before getting promoted to Mercedes. It was a wrong decision by Toto IMHO. Bortoleto will be close if not faster than Hulk.
My dad is a big Senna fan (We are brazilian) and he said that Bortoleto starting in a Sauber is great, to see what he's really made of, that is, if he can drive well even if his car is shit, just like Senna did back when he was in that Toleman and still managed to get some incredible results.
I think a lot of people are making assumptions about Audi before they have even turned a wheel as a manufacturer team. Nothing under Sauber counts for anything. This year is another year of treading water. What they do next year is still just speculation, yet people are reporting it as facts.
I understand your fears. But I think that Bortoleto has the consistence that you have told during this video. Others will go out sooner than he, my guess is that he will stay for a while.
All rookies are under pressure these days, maybe only Ollie has the whole season guaranteed, but the rest ... in Bortololeto case, he needs to keep up with hulk, and he is set... and I think he can do it.
Makes me think Colapinto has set the bar higher now for the incoming rookies. No testing, no experience and still matched albon in some races, its absolutely nuts, I think they now expect all the rookies to do the same in terms of pace, I expect many crashes to come lol
And the pressure is even bigger for Bortoleto for one thing: he's from Brazil, the country which never forgave Barrichello and Massa for not being the new Ayrton Senna...
Love your videos men, but thats the second time of this Spanish Samba in a brazilian video. Next time put some Michel Teló or something Keep doing this great work ❤
Hey Josh, love your videos and have been a fan for years now! Just wanted to let you know that because of you I started using surf shark and was with the VPN on when clicking on the video. However, TH-cam blocked it given the use of the VPN… not sure you can change that but it would be much better! Keep up the great vids
I think Bortoletto is going to be just fine. Like everyone else before he came to F3 I had no idea who he was, but the way he won that F3 title seriously impressed me. He's got that god given belief and confidence that he's better than everyone else and that's half the battle. Binotto will be patient with him I would think and give him two years to get up to speed but I honestly don't think he's going to be a million miles off Hulk. The rookie I can see drowning is Hadjar (well Doohan too but I don't even think Jack should have been given the F1 seat to begin with). His temperament is the opposite to Bortoletto's and I just don't see him thriving in the cutthroat environment of F1. He's got confidence but it borders on arrogance and undignified (I guess that's why he's the perfect Red Bull driver!)
Doomed? Quit the clickbait lad. He’s by far the most promising of all the rookies next year. Proven race and championship winner with the COOLEST head in the business. Mr consistent, never puts a foot wrong, always maximizing his opportunities, just like a certain 4 time champ. He will bury Hulk and consistently out perform his car, fact! And I’m no Brazillian! Go Gabriel 🇧🇷
I don't really understand this video because in my opinion, out of all the rookies this year, he looks like the safest bet. He was the most consistent one everywhere...
Great video super insightful! and I agree 100% rookies have way too much pressure to perform with almost zero track time. Looking forward to this F1 season it’s gonna be epic.
Kinda cool that the F2 champ actually made it to F1. And if your good enough, then you make it. If your not..... You either get Checo lucky, or shown the door. And it's the pinical of Motorsport.... We should be looking for Senna's, Verstappen's, Hamilton's, Lauda's at all times
These videos are amazing mate. Deep research into these guys’ junior careers. Stuff we’re interested in but cbf researching. And the narrative is always a casual cliffhanger. Love it. Thanks for another great video.
Still think Win & Win situation If he doesn't score any points His team would think it's normal because he's a rookie and driving a Sauber, And off course He have Nico as a teammate(which is a veteran driver) so he can learn and share knowledge from Nico and He's already guaranteed to be in the Audi seat in 2026
bro really trynna call every rookie doomed before we even see them turn a wheel💀
Yes. Totally annoying....
@@FQA77watch a different video if you find it so annoying
Because Sauber is a tractor and they are behind already
@RXNXR111 Make me....
@RXNXR111 Oh no, the opinion police is active again!
I will never not find it funny that the class of rookies for 2001 was:
Juan Pablo Montoya, the reigning CART champion, who would go on to win several F1 races
Kimi Raikkonen, who won a world championship and set a record for most F1 race starts
Fernando Alonso, who won *two* world championships, broke Raikkonen's race start record, and is considered one of the greatest drivers in F1 history
...and Enrique Bernoldi
Who held up David Coulthard at Monaco once
😂😂😂
You forgot the best one among them. The Man, the legend, the one and only...
Alex Yoong.
Well not all of them can be hits, F1 is a ruthless sport
@ If we're counting mid-season rookies then there's also Tomas Enge
Hey Josh, nice video. But if you don't want a brazilian rant here, that spanish samba at the end is not the best option.
If he doesn't speak Spanish or Portuguese, how would he know?
@@jaquandrejones a simple Google search ?
@jaquandrejones and I don't speak English and here we are...
@@alexitimiothey are very similar how's he meant to know
@@inahole2678 again, a simple google search, if you want to do something, maybe search it and make sure to do it right, portuguese and spanish might be similar, but they are not the same thing, saying this as a brazilian!!
Spanish outro and Bortoleto doomed?
You're cooked.
You are going to Brazil and getting a Vampetaço
Vampetaço kkkkkkkkkkk
Se pudesse postar imagem aqui, era um vampetaço certo
Ô maldade... XD
VAMPETAÇO HAHAHAHAHA
kkkkkkkkkk
I rate Hulk very highly. If he matches Hulk then he's set in the sport for me.
Ah yes...lets hope that he is incapable of scoring a podium! Hulk is literally the most overrated driver in F1 history.
Same goes for Bottas and Zhou but with shit car you can't prove anything sadly
@eoincassin4265 show me a car hulk has had that could've gotten him a podium, he's had about 3 chances to get one, overdriving rubbish cars, if hamilton said no to mercedes when he moved, hulk was the next option, he's underrated not overrated imo
@@eoincassin4265 podiums arent everything you know. Magnuseen had a podium and still lost to Hulk, he is still one of the best midfielf drivers of the last decade.
He will destroy Hulk, you heard it here first. He is a future multiple time world champ. I called Max on day 1 too, fan since 94. Avid watcher of F2 and F3.
2025 Pre-Season be like:
It’s Doover.
It’s Bortoletover.
And it hasn't even begun.
Bortolover
It's Tsunover too. I've seen a lot people saying this will be Tsunoda last year.
And december was
It's colapintover
Meanwhile during preseason tests:
*Verstappen sneezes*
Everyone: It's red bover
@@gundamzerostrike I think there's a non-zero % chance that Yuki gets replaced mid-season by Arvid Lindblad
Nice video and arguments. Since Ayrton's death, most of brazillians roasted (even on television) Barrichello, Massa, Nasr, Da Matta, etc. just because they weren't ultra winners like Senna. Barrichello was the only who suffered more, they started to call him Rubinho Pé-de-chinelo (something like Rubens flip flop) and made musics like "Sempre atrás do Alemão" (Everytime behind the german). This happens because brazillians don't like sports, they like to win. Just see how tennis, a rich boys sport in Brazil, becoming popular out of nothing just because Guga started to win. Most of Bortoleto's and F1 Brazillian fans are already planning campaigns to "teach" people that will come back to watch the sport saying basic things like "He's not going to be a new Senna. He's not going to make a Monaco '84 in a Sauber. His results don't depend only on him". We reeeeally don't want to see Bortoleto suffering the same things again, it would be a nightmare.
PS.: Gringos, please, stop to confuse spanish and portuguese for the love of God
Brazil had three decades of great drivers with Fittipaldi, Piquet Sr. and Senna too, it certainly didn't help Barrichello at the time as it was seen that he'd be the Brazilian champion for the 2000s. I feel like the culture around sports is changing here, Brazil is starting to appreciate sports more than the taste of glory, maybe we realized that it shouldn't be taken for granted. And not having Rede Globo hogging the spotlight and giving a damn about something only "when it matters" is helping out as well.
Ah
Nice essay
The consensus among the Brazilian press is that Bortoleto was just okay in the lower categories, which made the F3 and F2 titles so surprising. Something seemed to click for him once he got to F3. But I don't think the comparison to Bernoldi is that appropriate because Bernoldi wasn't that hyped. Cristiano da Matta was hogging the limelight in Brazil because of his success at CART at the time.
He still is to a degree. F2 this year was a fuckery just look at where his team was last year and the years before
@harry4454 Virtuosi was a top 4 team a t bare minimum in F2 since 2018.
I listened to the entire video and I still feel like I'm missing context.
If this doomposting just boils down to Bortoleto driving for a hopelessly slow team, may I remind you that a certain Australian bloke with a thing for drinking champagne from shoes made his F1 debut in 2011 with HRT, scored 0 points, finished 27th in the standings, and yet would still go on to have a very respectable career.
Yes borto is as mid as prcarddo
You do have a point, but the environment was a different one back then. The grid these days is stacked with fast drivers and Lance Stroll, and there are numerous young ones waiting to take their chance. If you don't deliver, you're a goner, and there's no second chance because the stream of people doesn't stop.
I wouldn’t use Ricciardo as a good example
ricciardo was red bull academy driver
Riccardo already had a red Bull contract. He was only on loan to HRT
Is "insert driver here" doomed?
Yeah
Can anyone match... Oops sorry wrong thing
Every driver is doomed apparently lol
“ 🔥 Is 👉🏻 his 👉🏻 career over 🔥?” 😂
We’ve got 2 rookies without much pressure to immediately perform (Bortoleto, Antonelli) and 1 who has so much pressure to perform the team already has a replacement lined up preemptively (Doohan)
Internally Kimi has minimal pressure but the outside? A lot
What about h adjar
Josh, just a quick think. The song on the end can have a Brazilian rhythm, but is actually in Spanish, not Portuguese. Amazing video, as always.
There are only 6 Formula 1 drivers that won the F2 championship in their first year. They are:
-Lewis Hamilton
-Nico Rosberg
-Charles Leclerc
-George Russell
-Oscar Piastri
-Nico Hülkenberg
And now Bortoleto is joining them as the seventh. That's not a bad crowd, is it?
A lot of these drivers are from GP2, so shouldn't we include other variants and previous iterations as well e.g. the official FIA F2 that opposed GP2 in the early 2010s or the original european f2. Which while that adds other big names like Ickx it also adds people like Andy Soucek who went onto spend 5 years without another drive until he had a few years doing very little in gt racing
Lewis didn't win in on first trial, but that gamble absolutely paid off.
He decided against going F1 twice in F3, he was offered, he said no, he didn't win on first trail in f2, he still rejected f1 until he won.
@@Don-RoyallEh? Hamilton’s only GP2 season was 2006.
@@Don-Royall not true, Lewis did one season in GP2 and he won it.
@@FCB001 oh that's f3 2004, 2005
A música em espanhol no fim do vídeo decepcionou muito :(
Tinha que ser gringo pra n saber a diferença de espanhol pra português
Bortoleto will also need to break the curse of the Brazilian champions in F2/GP2/F3000 in their F1 careers:
- Roberto Moreno: 15 career points and one podium (P2 at Japan 1990). Besides his Benetton run, he spent most of his F1 career in hopeless backmarker teams.
- Christian Fittipaldi: Won the F3000 title as rookie. He would spend three seasons in Minardi and Footwork with three 4th places as best results. 12 career points.
- Ricardo Zonta: After two seasons with BAR, he would only appear sporadically for Jordan and Toyota. Three 6th places as best results and 3 career points.
- Bruno Junqueira: Was close to joining Williams but lost in a shootout against Jenson Button. He would never debut in F1.
- Felipe Drugovich: Has been a reserve driver for Aston Martin since he won the F2 title but is yet to debut in F1.
Not only saying about the downfall of the first driver of a country in 8 years, then he ends the video mistaking Portuguese by Spanish.
So what if he's the first in 8 years? Things aren't in his favor, they might try to keep him around due to potential popularity and sponsors for a region if he doesn't perform but with the amount of rookies coming up in one year, there's bound to be one or two duds whether by circumstance or underachieving.
@@AuzzieDonkeyGabriel is a Back-to-Back f3 and f2 champion, Like Piastri, Russell and Leclerc, all race winners, are you sure he will underperform?
@ Nyck de Vries and Mick were also F2 Champions, just because you win on the way up. It doesn't mean success is guaranteed especially when you're teammate is one of the most experienced and consistent drivers going today.
I truly hope he surpasses expectations nad has a Colapinto like start, but the situation he's in is worrisome. Hopefully he and Hulk stay until the transition with Sainz replacing Hulk (if he begins to underperform) but if not they may just got with two experienced drivers to help with the beginning of Audi.
I expect Bortoleto to be a few tenths behind Hulkenberg most of the season, but I do expect him to beat Hulk in a few races or qualys. There is something about this guy that gives me the impression we'll watch him for more than a year.
Liam Lawson is doomed. Let’s see you talk about that. Because it’s inevitable. Very average outside his first two races.
tsunoda is much better
Dude 2025 would be a write off for both yuki and liam max has had the knowledge of that car for years and years. It's 2026 where it matters most. New regs, new car. If he can't stack up to max THEN there's issues.
anyone is doomed vs verstappen at the moment, Yuki would be at risk as well if he was promoted
@@adamhousden6349 Tsunoda would be worse
Agreed, I think Lawson probably won't do too well, but also, what's RedBull gonna do? they're not putting Yuki there. Putting Hadjar would be insane (we've sure have seen stuff like this from them so you never know lol...), so like. I don't know!
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Hadrian David is a perfect example of the talent that is lost in Junior Formulas due to a lack of funds.
Case of Hadrian David is a tragedy. Dude is extremely good, like Theo level. But talent without money is nothing in motorsport.
Agreed an actual talent it was weird to see him coaching on camera in the middle east series yesterday
@Josh Revell you realize that this outro song is a spanish song n not a brazilian portuguese one right? the biggest insult to a brazilian is telling them they speak spanish.
It’s actually the second biggest insult to a Brazilian. The biggest is telling that Brazil’s capital is Buenos Aires
@@felipehartmann5083 true forgot abt that one
Hahah I can’t wait to try this on my Brazilian friend
Dude it’s a song who tf cares
@harry4454 a video about a brazilian, that song at the end was to REPRESENT Bortoleto and where he came from, what the fck do u mean "who tf cares"? Pay attention.
Lack of parity in F2 is waaaayyyyy overblown. Its the same as its always been. Only major difference is because it was a new car it meant every team had a chance instead of just a couple.
If it was Prema clean sweeping everyone i guarantee you people wouldn't be as harsh on the series as they have been this year. Everyone has an agenda and their favourites seem to be getting Mechachromed when they do poorly.
If Bortoleto is somehow able to beat Hulk, he must be a generational talent! I'd count it a success if he can hang in there with him for his first season. Can't wait to find out...
Title: Is Gabriel Bortoleto Doomed?
Me: Nuh uh
Consistency is the key word when talking about Bortoleto Josh, a few times that is something that he himself said in some brazilian podcast. That consistency in the junior categories is the key, i hope he keeps that in F1 even though you need more than that in F1
As a diehard Alonso fan I really hope he succeeds so I can root for him after Fernando retires
10:10 Who knew Jack Doherty raced in F2?
Keeping up with your teammate is the main goal of f1. But for Bortoleto, his teammate is Hulkenberg, who is bloody fast (didn't get called the Super Sub for no reason). Antonelli is in the same boat, with Russell as his teammate - Russell being bloody fast. Our rookies this year have got a hard time in for them. Except Bearman, who only has Ocon to compete against (sorry Estie)
Brazilian here, I REALLY didn't want the next brazilian in the F1 grid to drive for such a shitshow of a team, both in performance and management, but we take what we can get.
I'm being realistic, I don't expect points, I don't expect him to "outperform the car", I just expect the same consistency that he had in F3/F2, and staying close to hulk.
Still, as much as it pains me to write this, I don't expect him to last more than 4~5 years in F1, unless either him or the team REALLY gel with the next gen of engines/regulations
Another Brazilian here.
I'm with you about being a little skeptical about Bortoleto. But I see something different about him, and it's not really that famous "natural talent/speed" that people love to talk about rookies. Instead I see two very strong points that can help him:
1) He IS a very intelligent driver. I can see him in the future being someone like Carlos Sainz (which means, no world champion, but a couple of wins, many podiums and a solid career, compensating the "lack of raw speed" with brains);
2) He seems to have a very good staff around him. So far he's being very grounded about expectations, very humble and open to anything.
For example, after he won F3 and was giving interviews everywhere he had very clear what his window would be to get into F1 and wasn't scared to look for other categories as soon as he realized F1 wasn't gonna happen (unlike another Brazilian currently).
So I'm not very hyped but if the opportunity arises I think he can have a solid career in F1.
Carai, that dig at Drugovich...
I agree, I think he might get a shot at a better team if he keeps up with Hulk in case Audi doesn't become good
The precieved management issues are just that a perception, AUdi in every German interview they did about F1 they were commiting everything they have to offer to it. Heck they pinched out of a very succesfull dakar and lmp prorgamm to start f1.
@@evandrochaves9596 let's not forget that we may get another huge driver market move at the end of 2026 and/or 2027.
Alonso, Lewis and Hulk may retire (because of age);
Stroll may retire because of lack of skills;
Max may retire because he's sick of FIA's BS.
Yuki probably will retire this year.
So if Bortoleto can hold his own for a couple of years, some vacancies on better teams may show up. Let's hope!
Hey Josh, nice video! What you said in the video makes sense, and you definitely did good research! However, the spanish song at the end is not cool
I don't think Sauber will have a shitbox like this year's, so I expect him to get a couple points. He may not be as flashy as Antonelli or Bearman but he has a consistency and race craft you don't tend to see in young drivers. He'll stay for a long time, don't worry
In conclussion, he made what lando couldnt
Bortoleto is quite smart, I've seen him in brazilian podcast and you see he understands where he gets to, and having Fernando Alonso as your mentor... he probably already gave him so much advices about de paddock that only him would know
the easter eeg at 0:17 😍
I hope Borto gets the chance he deserves and he might be in a good spot at Sauber. Sure the car has been a wheeliebin in the last couple of years, but they gave Zhou 3 seasons, so I hope this is the least he can expect! I wish him, and all of the other rookies the best of luck for 2025
But China money/popularity is more valuable than Brazilian money/legacy in F1
@ricardopetrere fair point, but still Sauber has been a decent proving ground over the years of its existence. I hope they give him the same chance as they gave Charles or Kimi to name a few.
I'm not saying Bortoleto is on their level, but he seems to have what it takes, so I hope they give him time to adjust and get up to speed
@@tomm1413 As a Brazilian myself, I hope as well! 🙏🏻
I'm not sure if we can take Sauber's legacy into consideration, considering the takeover by Audi. For me, it's ground up with this team
I'm honestly hoping that he's Alonso's hand-picked successor at AM. (Provided, of course, that Lance fucks off and AM signs a real WDC contender to pair with Bort)
So many Brazilian songs and he puts a song in Spanish. OMFG
Lmao
I'm going to say it, he's here to stay for a long time. I followed him from F3 to F2 and very few drivers have been as impressive. From all the 2025 rookies he is the real deal.
You’re kidding, right? He’s gonna be a star.
not with that piece of shit Sauber lmao
I don't see it. F2 is so random that winning it is a death sentence.
@ he won F3 the year before. Trust me, this guy is the real deal.
In your dreams
@@xtheamazingaxlol, only 3 f2 winners have been champions in the last 30 years
So long as he doesn't drown, I'd count that as a success. Hulk being one of the bigger "What Ifs" of the 2010s doesn't help in that respect, as teammates are the foremost point of comparison, but Borto will give it his best shot, of that I have no doubt. Will it be enough? We'll find out.
I know the titles to Josh's new videos
The reason Antonelli is doomed
The reason bearman is doomed
The reason hadjar is doomed
The reason Lawson is doomed
Why doohans replacement colapinto is doomed
Im all for it!
reminder that Felipe Massa joined Sauber in 2002
Very well written mate! Cudos! Well, let's ignore the spanish part. LOL
And you finished it with a spanish song. What the fuck did I just watch???
Borto is gonna have the same pace of Hulk
Good points here. Kid's got a high bar if he needs to outrun Hulk, and that may just be what he needs to do. That's gonna be a tough ask.
Honestly I have faith in Bortoleto, he'll swim
F1 Rookies have these expectations because it is Formula 1. These are supposed to be the 20 best in the world, even if Lance Stroll still has a seat. Compassion and tempered expectations are not terms that can correlate in Formula 1. You either make it, or you don't. Not very many drivers get these opportunites to race, so in my opinion, the goal is to always beat your teammate and score the most points possible. This is the cruel side of F1 and these rookies will find out if they are able to keep up or if they will drown.
I see what you're doing here, Josh. Your talking bad about Bortoleto so that he can be good in the Sauber, and not jinx him in the slightest. Reverse Psychology 5-D Chess
ZIKA NÃO MANO
Hahahahaha
Porra, pensei a mesma coisa
maluco botou uma música espanhola no final sendo que é um vídeo falando de brasileiro, tão otario isso bixo
Doohan, Antonelli, Bearman, Lawson, Hadjar... So far Bortoleto has proven to be better than all of them.
PS: I'm not brazilian.
I just really really want Franco Colapinto and Bortoleto to do real well this year. you can probably guess where I'm from lol.
And taking a look at the rookies you just think, there's no way ALL of them do well... ofc I'm already discounting Doohan here, sorry. I think Lawson and Hadjar might drown too. I'm thinking that Kimi has a good shot at impressing a lot (maybe getting a podium/s, or if that Mercedes is third best car and luck is on his side, a win? 👀) coupled with rookie mistakes and inconsistency. Ollie Bearman is the ture question mark for me 🤔 sure did real good at the races he was at last year, but still...
I would love to see you continue your apparent series of videos on the rookies Josh!
I'd imagine that other than Doohan (and maybe Lawson), the other rookies will have a long leash. In other words, "if you're at least better than Lance, you can stay" And that's how it should be for rookies; if they're not a complete embarrassment (Haas 2021), they should be allowed to grow at their current seats
Your comparisons to drivers back in the day are one of the main reasons your channel is great, Josh. Amazing video, yet again.
I only remember Bernoldi because to this day I play Grand Prix 4, my first F1 game ever as a child. Great game of the 2001 season. There was also Alex Yoong xD
Massive engagement bait with the song, wp mate👌
This wasn’t bait, was ignorance. Something not expected from someone from a country most maps don’t even feature.
Got ill with a cold today, but seeing a new Josh Revell video in my feed makes up for it
Not fair. I fought the Chynaflu all week 😢
Wish you a good recovery
@@rnbicalho thanks. And to you!
Big Up from Barbados! thank you for the Zane Maloney Mention
I love your videos but I think this time you're wrong. My vote for a doomed rookie this season, besides Jack (who will be replaced by Colapinto even before the six races of his contract), is Kimi. Carlos should be in that seat and Kimi should be getting experience on a Williams before getting promoted to Mercedes. It was a wrong decision by Toto IMHO. Bortoleto will be close if not faster than Hulk.
So, you mean to tell me that we have Peter Sauber making a GOOD decision to "blame" for Red Bull F1?? The world is a fickle place.
It seems that your videos are banned for me in the past few weeks due to a region constraint. Fascinating. I've always loved your channel.
My dad is a big Senna fan (We are brazilian) and he said that Bortoleto starting in a Sauber is great, to see what he's really made of, that is, if he can drive well even if his car is shit, just like Senna did back when he was in that Toleman and still managed to get some incredible results.
I think a lot of people are making assumptions about Audi before they have even turned a wheel as a manufacturer team. Nothing under Sauber counts for anything. This year is another year of treading water. What they do next year is still just speculation, yet people are reporting it as facts.
I understand your fears. But I think that Bortoleto has the consistence that you have told during this video. Others will go out sooner than he, my guess is that he will stay for a while.
Yesterday was his testing at Sauber and he did better than his teammate
Excellent video! Netflix should add it as an extra to Drive To Survive, it's that good...
All rookies are under pressure these days, maybe only Ollie has the whole season guaranteed, but the rest ... in Bortololeto case, he needs to keep up with hulk, and he is set... and I think he can do it.
Look on the bright sight guys, at least Josh did not hyped Bortoleto so there is no flopping curse.
wait till blud finds out about hulkenberg
honestly as long as he even just keeps up with Hülk somewhat, he's gonna be fine
We got 5 rookies and 2 semi rookies this year, how awesome that is!
17:39 Why does that image look cursed to me?
Your videos are always so rewarding and enjoyable. Thank you for your work and talent!🚁🔶🐪
Makes me think Colapinto has set the bar higher now for the incoming rookies. No testing, no experience and still matched albon in some races, its absolutely nuts, I think they now expect all the rookies to do the same in terms of pace, I expect many crashes to come lol
Between 5th and 15th would be great. Expecting more for the first half of the season is crazy.
And the pressure is even bigger for Bortoleto for one thing: he's from Brazil, the country which never forgave Barrichello and Massa for not being the new Ayrton Senna...
Love your videos men, but thats the second time of this Spanish Samba in a brazilian video.
Next time put some Michel Teló or something
Keep doing this great work ❤
Hey Josh, love your videos and have been a fan for years now! Just wanted to let you know that because of you I started using surf shark and was with the VPN on when clicking on the video. However, TH-cam blocked it given the use of the VPN… not sure you can change that but it would be much better! Keep up the great vids
Rookie: *exist*
Josh: "Yeah, he's cooked."
Hadjar bottled the start. He used the clutch wrong, nothing to do with the engine.
Your videos are of such good quality
As a Portuguese, now our Brazilian brothers understand the pain when we're confused with the Spanish 😂
I think Bortoletto is going to be just fine. Like everyone else before he came to F3 I had no idea who he was, but the way he won that F3 title seriously impressed me. He's got that god given belief and confidence that he's better than everyone else and that's half the battle. Binotto will be patient with him I would think and give him two years to get up to speed but I honestly don't think he's going to be a million miles off Hulk.
The rookie I can see drowning is Hadjar (well Doohan too but I don't even think Jack should have been given the F1 seat to begin with). His temperament is the opposite to Bortoletto's and I just don't see him thriving in the cutthroat environment of F1. He's got confidence but it borders on arrogance and undignified (I guess that's why he's the perfect Red Bull driver!)
Getting my tinfoil hat on here, Lawson will drown, be swapped with Bortoleto within 3 races and he somehow wins it all
Borto's family is probably the second richest of these rookie, only behind Bearman.
Doomed? Quit the clickbait lad. He’s by far the most promising of all the rookies next year. Proven race and championship winner with the COOLEST head in the business. Mr consistent, never puts a foot wrong, always maximizing his opportunities, just like a certain 4 time champ. He will bury Hulk and consistently out perform his car, fact! And I’m no Brazillian! Go Gabriel 🇧🇷
Did you see the video until the end? I know you didn't...
@@CristianoDrumond-k5t didn’t bother watching. I don’t waste time on clickbait I know is clickbait.
Not as doomed as Jack Doohan
God, please, stop putting this song in spanish when talking about Brazil...
I don't really understand this video because in my opinion, out of all the rookies this year, he looks like the safest bet. He was the most consistent one everywhere...
hahaha that Harold Holt reference was gold! 😂
the spanish samba bossa nova song thing at the end made me crack up.
This year will have so many Nick de vries'ses
Great video super insightful! and I agree 100% rookies have way too much pressure to perform with almost zero track time. Looking forward to this F1 season it’s gonna be epic.
The Iceman should have won at least 3 championships. Those McLaren cars in the early 2000s were either podium or DNF
Lord of the eyebrows 😂 gets me everything
Kinda cool that the F2 champ actually made it to F1.
And if your good enough, then you make it.
If your not..... You either get Checo lucky, or shown the door. And it's the pinical of Motorsport.... We should be looking for Senna's, Verstappen's, Hamilton's, Lauda's at all times
These videos are amazing mate. Deep research into these guys’ junior careers. Stuff we’re interested in but cbf researching. And the narrative is always a casual cliffhanger. Love it. Thanks for another great video.
0:18 is a deep cut well done 😂
Still think Win & Win situation
If he doesn't score any points His team would think it's normal because he's a rookie and driving a Sauber,
And off course He have Nico as a teammate(which is a veteran driver) so he can learn and share knowledge from Nico and He's already guaranteed to be in the Audi seat in 2026
I believe that if he loses to Hulk, then Hulk will be the one back into the future WDC conversations
My expectation of Borto is 3 points. He does that, and I am sold he is the next Senna.