Hi my dutch friends! Greetings from Germany! After using the mid sized and the XL version of the (original) first Leatherman back in the 1980's for about eight years, I purchased the exact Victorinox Swiss Tool you are testing in your video. I now have it for 30 years, and am using it ever since. As a live musician and Motorbike rider I just have beatenthe living shit out of it, and more often than not. The only thing that ever happened to the Swiss Tool: I damaged the chissel by using it as a screwdriver (yes it was dark and I was drunk), but was able to fix this on a cheap waterstone, and the leather sheet or butter, the belt loop of the sheet broke after 25 years of carrying it. I bought a second one, to have a spare, but never needed it, always use the first one. Pro tip: use the back of the saw for fatwood scratching and use of the firesteel. The back is real sharp. Love your videos! Keep on doing what you do.
The last time I was looking for a new multitool, the main thing I looked at was the scissor. I may be a weirdo, but that tends to be the tool I use most. The simple fact is that no one has exactly the same needs, so you always have to stop and think about what is best for yourself.
@@malthus101 not really. Depends on what you do. I can use a knife for 99% of things scissors will do. There is no replacement for pliers. Besides the Leatherman surge has better scissors than Victorinox anyways
@@JordanMac79 The Surge is absolutely insane. It built my bedroom. I use it for computer repair. You can also use t-shank jigsaw blades with it, though it's best if you use a drill press to punch a hole in the shank. I've used brad point and drill bits with the ratcheting tool. It's not even the most expensive Leatherman but imo it is head and shoulders above the rest in versatility.
I've had my best multi-tool result from Victorinox & Leatherman, been using multi-tools since 1993 so decades of daily use. My current fave is a SwissTool, had it since 2001 and still holding up fine.
From the U.S.A. I really enjoyed the challenge and think it's more relevant if caught off guard than planning a survival situation. A good backup/emergency system. If you work on 90° batoning, you will surprised how well it can actually work. Check out Felix Immler, everyone, another enjoyable guy to watch... "The Old Gunny".
I feel like a leatherman wave woupd of been a better choice. Even though alot of leathermans have the same tool the design on each saw/knife/file are shaped different and they do perform different
Either that or the Surge. The two are the most popular multitool choices among Alone winners. I haven't seen a single multitool channel that's into bushcraft recommend the Signal.
I’ve used countless ones through the years. The best one that has NEVER failed me: Leatherman Wave Plus. Military, construction, home; it’s great for a ton. Standard issue for dad’s everywhere.
I think Swiss Tool would be more comparable to Leatherman's Super Tool 300, but it's still amazing how well they both handled bushcrafting tasks. I'm still going to carry around a fixed blade in addition to my multitool. Can you please review the Glock Feldmesser (either 78 or 81)? I know you don't like 1095, but it's a rather affordable and very sturdy bayonet and I heard it might stop being produced soon.
@@Saschastic even if it's still produced it's out of stock in many places not only in the US, but also where I live in central Europe. Might be a supply chain issue, but almost all variants are sold out everywhere I looked since February
@@Saschastic thanks, but keep it. It might be trash, but you can't beat a beater. I already have the Fm 81 barely used and wanted a 78 for use and abuse, that saw-back makes more problems than it solves for me. For now I'll stick with what I got
From Belgium; I love you guys' show. The woods are very similar; and the rain used to be a problem too 🙂 Awsome quality camera work & editing too. Keep up the good work!
I have had both the Victorinox Swisstool and the Swisstool Spirit X. In the end I kept the Spirit X because it fits in my watch pocket of my jeans and has rounded edges making it more comfortable to use. They both have the same features except for the Swisstool having a ruler and having the jaws of pliers being able to open up a bit wider. Also you can apply more force because of size with the Swisstool. But the compactness of the Swisstool Spirit X won it for me. I like the 'hardness' of the tools being exactly right (for me): the tools do not break but bend when applying too much force and can be bent back while still being able to keep an edge. Also rust resistance is great: using it in and around the sea does not immediately cause rust. You still need to rinse it after use with sea water and sometimes apply a drop of oil is recommended. Making fire with fire steel using the saw blade works great. Most used tool in my life. Have many great blades but since society frowns upon having a knife hanging from your belt this has been with me for the past years and worked great. And the best knife is the one you have with you and not the one laying in a drawer at home.... Still use Victorinox Outrider with my own fire steel and torch attachment when bush crafting in Norway. Also prefer small knife and a saw in the out doors... Just more weight and labor efficient compared to carrying a big knife. A small Gransfors axe also sometimes comes along just because the big knives do not appeal to me. Have used samekniv (leuku) but a Gransfors axe is far more efficient for building shelters. Cleaning fish (even big ones) is a bit of hassle with a samekniv so you also need a small knife.
@@folksurvival They have a small opening but are very capable like many victorinox scissors. Can cut the nails of my big toe with them while most normal scissors fail at this task ;-)
@@christiaannooteboom7059 Maybe they aren't as bad as they seem but I'm considering the full size Swiss Tool instead of the Spirit partly because of the scissors.
@@folksurvival The scissors on the Spirit is less useful for cutting wrapping paper (and have cut a lot with it) but it is great at cutting metal sheet, paracord, band aid, bandages, nails, rope (that fits in the jaw, etc). I have carried both full size and Spirit around and in the end the Spirit X won: in the field I am usually not cutting wrapping paper and plastic sheets, mylar etc is no problem. (long time having them both on my belt: swiss tool to borrow to others, spirit for myself).
Got a vic SwissToolRS 16 years ago and it's been my EDC all this years served me flawlessly an still in very good condition. All tools still are the original ones. Didn't need any repair or tool replacement. 👍
Ive had many leathermans and gerbers. I prefer the leatherman surge that i carry. One cool thing with the surge is the saw and file it comes with is the same blade chuck as a jigsaw so the variety of saw blades one could use is a lot. I dont use it for survival but more as an EDC and especially at work as a mechanic..
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Great vid! If I could recommend a video idea, I would suggest testing the new toughest benchmade which set a record in closed break strength: the claymore.
Great review, you guys did things with a multi tool I wouldn't do, but now I know, so thanks. For me the signal is the overall winner, one tool that does all around camp, especially the hammer makes it the winner (it works, but lacks some comfort). For processing wood I use and axe the only role that my signal has in the process is the can opener to hold the wood stable, to keep my fingers away from the business end of my axe.
Had a vicrotinox for many years. I never had any real complaints until I was gifted a surge. The vixtorinox is definitely the more refined product, but the surge is unbeatable if you're looking for a no nonsense hard use multi tool. You would be hard pressed to find anyone anywhere that uses their multi tool harder or more frequently than I do (pipeline contractor that averages around 70 hours at work a week), and there is no way my victorinox would have held up the way my surge has. It's easily the toughest and most diverse multi tool on the market.
I have a Leatherman FREE P4 and it is fantastic. It has a completely different locking mechanism that the signal. It also has bot ha serrated blade and a non serrated blade. It works great.
Would've liked to seen Leatherman put s30v or s35vn,on all their multitools for better edge retention, I love how sharp the Leatherman charge series have a awesome blade steel,just saying Leatherman if your listening since the surge an st 300 an charge are already kinda of expensive or give the buyer the option when buying to choose when making a purchase.
Got my Leatherman Wave for abot 5 years and still is doing well.Use it every day at work and home.The only regret is for the leather sheath.Half year in Benin,all the moisture from the sweat gave their.But the tool itself is pretty good.Want to try some Victorinox,but can't afford today's prices.But...who knows?May be sometime,when wife is not around, when some euros remain in the account.... Hopefully.Regards!
Great video, I really wanted to see those go toe to toe. Ps can you please review the glock knife next? 30 dollar value? I wanna know if it will survive your tests
Proves it can do it if you need it to. These are basically the two best saws on multitools available. Good idea having a firesteel as part of the tool, too.
No. The Surge has the same tooth pattern as the Signal and, its longer and taller. With the Leatherman belt sheath they have a loop on each side. A Exo-Tac nano-strike and a Streamlight Micro stream 1aaa flashlight fit perfectly. I've carried my Charge this way for about5-6 years now.
My first multitools were Leatherman, charge and rebar. After I got a spirit x I haven't looked back. I still enjoy my Leathermans but the victorinox has far superior build quality.
hi! BDK , I'm from the Philippines , great video and comparisons and reviews to the other knives as well .. will you have a chance or time to review the Cold Steel Tek 6.5 .. thanks keep safe.
The Victorinox, every day of the week. I own multiple multitools from different brands, but if i need ONE tool to count on i always take the swisstool…
This is the channel with two most honest, unmasked, truly authentic guys whos show I really like. Best and honest kind of entertainment. Okay, one has to share this peculiar interest in knives and fire making. Like you guys! Kind regards from Germany! (just to make this clear: I am 100 % hetero.... ;-)
Loved this video. I usually carry a ( Leatherman) multitool and a knife ( terava jaakaripuukko, thanks DBK) around the farm and the combination of both are perfect. I used to have the Victorinox multitool 20 years ago but it broke unfortunately and didn't have the guarantee like Leatherman. It seems that Victorinox has caught up with the quality of Leatherman. Thanks DBK for changing a bit from fixed blades, folders and choppers to multitools for once. Keep making videos, my 8 year old son and I enjoy them greatly
Awesome. I wanted to get your guy's opinion on the victorinox because I was debating on getting one but feel that they use a softer steel and has less tools than a Leatherman in terms of accessories like adapters.
For this task.....just starting a fire the victorinox farmer (alox) is better in my opinion. Cheaper, smaller, lighter, & it is far more comfortable in hand for making feathersticks.
Im glad you say its preference. There are many models and uses for the task at hand. Crimping and cutting wire. Splicing. Screw driver work. Opening boxes. Dealing with appliances and electrical devices. So many things. Victorinox was advertised in the US as like the boy scout Swiss Army Knife that all kids would want at camping trips. But I have a preference toward my Leatherman wave. It always comes in handy for most useful tasks in a pinch away from the Bushcraft scene. I could even use it for some survival tasks should that ever but hopefully not happen since I been using it for over 20 years. I loved my victorianox as a kid because of just having a toothpick at hand LOL.
I believe our mindset was to buy two multitools in hopefully exactly the same price range and then knives and tools (shop) recommenden these two for the use we used them for
@@DutchBushcraftKnives The Surge and the Signal come in at the same price. The signal is marketed towards "survival" but it's inferior to the Surge in every way.
I've owned, and still own, a bunch of multitools. My favorites are Victorinox because they just have everything and their steel is more stain resistant than Leatherman's. I like the replaceable cutters on the newer Leatherman tools, and I like the way they're moving toward one hand opening in a more efficient way than Victorinox has with their attempt a couple years back, but I still prefer the overall Victorinox toolsets.
either one is great i guess. proven by tens of thousands of users daily,i see no point in arguing which one is better, stick to one you wants most and use it to its limits. i LOVE my Charge, will deff buy Ti version one day. but until then, stock one suits my needs damn well. great VS video btw :)
really like the idear of the ferro rod and sharpener on the leatherman, but i need the tool combo of non serrated blade, plier, saw, file and scissors on a multitool. so i am in favor for the vic
Awesome video boys! In my opinion multitools are great for urban use and as a backup in the woods, just to be prepared. A nice fixed blade often does the job better but a multitool is a bit more allround. As a student, I like it to keep a leatherman rebar in my pack for all kind of situations in which you need a knife/saw/screwdriver. That said, pliers also are often very handy!
The music is back love the music the fire was exceptional especially with the slow motion but the knife on the tongue let’s not do that anymore you guys rock see you next time
I have some Leatherman and Victorinox multi-tools. The Leatherman Surge is great right up until you need to use the wire cutters more than a couple times. That's when you need the Victorinox Spirit Plus, which also comes with a ratchet set. I still use my Leatherman multi-tools, but the Victorinox Spirit Plus just doesn't have an equal. Also try not to baton with these things. If you ever baton with a folder, the blade should always be at 90 degrees from the handle (like they do after Martin breaks the lock on his) so you don't bust the lock for the sheer joy of destruction.
Excellent subject for this Thursday friends. Looking forward to more of these. I have a MUT, Surge & Wave +…all are better than the Signal. FYI. Keep up the great work. 🙏🏻
The signal seems like a bit of a gimmick to me. Maybe something to throw in an emergency kit as it ticks many boxes, but for an actual tool to bring into the woods I think the surge seems like a much more obvious option
after 18 years of faultless carrying my victorinox and countless warranty claims on leathermans for snapped tools I think the results speak for themselves. Oh one other thing, leathermans rust at the slightest hint of moisture whereas victorinox stay fresh and shiny.
That is interesting. Ive been using Leathermans in Western Oregon (lots of rain) for at least 20 years and have had no rust issues. Ive dumped them into rivers and lakes kayaking or portaging on hunting trips too.
I have a Wave (amongst other Leathermans) approx. 22 years old: used and no signs of rust - actually never had any rust issues not with Leatherman, nor with Victorinox and Wenger (which is now Victorinox too). The biggest issue I have with Victorinox and Wenger is the softness of the stainless steel that seems to loose the edge by just laying around, they are easy to sharpen so.
Quick question: Would the chisel not have been better for the scraping? (no edge damage of the knife blade...) I mean you showed that the Swisstool had one, so why not use it? (Or was it like it's usually in my life: realizing that that thing exists afterwards.)
No we tried (have it on film but did not use it in the video) and it sucked for that task funny enough. Maybe we had to leave it in but it seemed un interesting and here you are proving that wrong! Haha thanks for the feedback mate!
Thank´s for sharing! I own a GERBER Multi Plier and a LEATHERMAN Wave, both over 23 years now. They hold both up very well, but the Wave is for me the better one. And if I would have to buy a new one today, I would look for LEATHERMAN.... Gruß Torsten
My choice has always depended on the occasion. For weddings and festive occasions, a classic leatherman is worn in a leather case and with it a zippo also in a leather case. and for picnics and regular days, something more robust and slightly larger is desirable due to greater usability. So I recommend everyone to buy the most robust model in stainless steel version regardless of the manufacturer unless they have small fists.
also i have both brands for different things. my work a day is Leatherman as i work on boilers and chillers. my knife is Victorinox. both make great products,.
I've owned Leatherman and I Switched to swisstools years ago. After selling Leatherman for years at House of knives...I found that I would warranty 1 Leatherman a month..at least...I never once had to Warranty any Swiss tool...plus the swisstool X makes a carpenter square..swisstools for the win ..always
I own a Victorinox swisstool like the one in the video, and it's definitely better made than leatherman. The compression locks are really sturdy, and even after years of hard use there is no play in any part of the Victorinox (can't say the same for many Leathermans...) And if you're european, you're getting more bang for your buck with the swisstool (100-110 euros) than with a leatherman in the same price range (import from the USA).
I have the swisstool and the surge. While the swisstool has better fit and finish, i prefer using the surge. The compression locks on mine, while sturdy enough to keep the blade locked, all have, imo, unacceptable movement.
My leatherman has been my multi tool of choice for a year and a half now after a Gerber multitool crapped out on me after about 4 weeks of use, it’s been through some seriously shitty environments and hasn’t failed me yet. My very first “knife” was a big Victorinox multitool my dad gave me. I’d take a leatherman any day of the week.
I carry a surge everyday. Into the bush alot. I have an 8 inch jigsaw blade that can attach to my surge and I can literally cut down up to 6 inch trees with it , you just have to treat it like a pull saw so you don't bend the thinner blades
Victorinox gang. I bought my Victorinox multitool from a random guy who wanted to sell it to me for 40$. I dunno if he stole it or really wanted some crack money, but I was so broke at a time and only had my last 10$ till payday. I told him that this is a fking good multitool, but I don't have even 20$. He eventually go down to 5$ and I said it him: You know what? You not gonna sell it to me for 5, here is my last 10$ and it's a deal. And leather sheet with L-Wrench and bit set was included! I dunno if he was a devil and I had to trade my soul with that 10$ for a multitool but I love it ever since and it helped me a lot. It's really for a casual outdoor and indoor use. It's great to have a jack of all trade tool, especially in a tricky situation. The only Leatherman model that can compete with Leather is Leatherman Super Tool 300, but still the design is still not there ;) You can access all the tools with Victorinox, but you can't with any Leatherman. You have to unfold it to get access to every tool.
Oh my ! The multi verse has struck the Dutch Boys. How many hits on the glass pipe equal a TH-cam video ? Remember….be safe boys, there is danger in them thar woods !
I have a few plier based multi-tools but prefer a Victorinox Swiss Army Knife for daily carry over them. The reason is that, to me, a SAK is foremost a knife with some other tools while a multi-tool is foremost a set of pliers with a knife blade among some other tools. I use a knife daily more than I use pliers and for daily tasks like peeling apples and things like that trying to use the usually awkwardly placed knife on a multi-tool sucks. You mentioned liking that the blade on the multi-tools lock but the blade on the model of SAK I carry also has a liner lock. As far as plier based multi-tools go I like the Gerber models with pliers which slide out the end because the pliers can more easily be deployed one-handed (not all Gerber multi-tools are made that way). One of my biggest uses for a multi-tool is removing fish hooks from fishes' mouths without harming the fish, when possible, if I am going to release it. Holding a fish in one hand it is much easier to take one of those Gerber models out of the belt sheath, deploy the pliers and pull the hook with the other hand.
I like the description you have at the beginning for the SAK and a Multitool. It really fits. But in general i think the usecase makes the difference in what fits the user. I too usually carry a SAK in my pocket at all times. But at work i also have a Leatherman Charge ALX in my backpack. It's knifeblade gets used for opening packets at work, because the sticky substances of the packet tape always collects on the blade, and so i have one cutting blade dedicated to that, that i occasionally clean from that sticky stuff, and the SAK blade stays clean from that. Apart from that i mostly use the Charge for it's bitholders and the slim bits that are stored inside the sheath needing minimal space.(and since i got the ratchet, it's become even a competition to a real screwdriver in some instances.) I even have sharpened the kitchen knifes at work with the diamond file of the leatherman once. (not having better sharpening stuff with me and not wanting to cook with the Vic when there are actual kitchen knifes. And just to make sure: we have a kitchen at work, for us to use, so that weren't the knives used by an actual professional chef )
I use a Victorinox Spirit for a real EDC. I have a perfect cheap leather sheath for it so I can carry it horizontally on my belt. So you can wear it without feeling it, but it's there when you need it
i alvays give all my money for Martin if its about fire making :D i Letterman fan boy, so chce my faworite but all respect to Victor. Ps. That was my idea for episode! TY guys!
Nice to see a multitool here. Maybe you can try victorinox with 11/13 cm locking blades. They can take a beating. I've see one with a broken blade before its mechanism broke.
Should have also done a Gerber as the majority of the soldiers I served with were issued or bought a gerber and carried them over the other options for multi-tools
Hi my dutch friends!
Greetings from Germany!
After using the mid sized and the XL version of the (original) first Leatherman back in the 1980's for about eight years, I purchased the exact Victorinox Swiss Tool you are testing in your video.
I now have it for 30 years, and am using it ever since. As a live musician and Motorbike rider I just have beatenthe living shit out of it, and more often than not.
The only thing that ever happened to the Swiss Tool: I damaged the chissel by using it as a screwdriver (yes it was dark and I was drunk), but was able to fix this on a cheap waterstone, and the leather sheet or butter, the belt loop of the sheet broke after 25 years of carrying it.
I bought a second one, to have a spare, but never needed it, always use the first one.
Pro tip: use the back of the saw for fatwood scratching and use of the firesteel. The back is real sharp.
Love your videos! Keep on doing what you do.
Thank you for your tip
The last time I was looking for a new multitool, the main thing I looked at was the scissor. I may be a weirdo, but that tends to be the tool I use most. The simple fact is that no one has exactly the same needs, so you always have to stop and think about what is best for yourself.
exactly -which is going to be used more often in camp setting - pliers or scissors? Obviously scissors.
@@malthus101 not really. Depends on what you do. I can use a knife for 99% of things scissors will do. There is no replacement for pliers. Besides the Leatherman surge has better scissors than Victorinox anyways
@@JordanMac79 The Surge is absolutely insane. It built my bedroom. I use it for computer repair. You can also use t-shank jigsaw blades with it, though it's best if you use a drill press to punch a hole in the shank. I've used brad point and drill bits with the ratcheting tool. It's not even the most expensive Leatherman but imo it is head and shoulders above the rest in versatility.
Me too,
It was Surprisingly difficult to find a Leatherman with scissors and the functions I needed
For me, knife and scissors is the most I use. Leatherman wingman prioritizes both of those very well
I've had my best multi-tool result from Victorinox & Leatherman, been using multi-tools since 1993 so decades of daily use. My current fave is a SwissTool, had it since 2001 and still holding up fine.
From the U.S.A. I really enjoyed the challenge and think it's more relevant if caught off guard than planning a survival situation. A good backup/emergency system.
If you work on 90° batoning, you will surprised how well it can actually work.
Check out Felix Immler, everyone, another enjoyable guy to watch...
"The Old Gunny".
Who’s the ol’ naval employee? 😄🤣
"For me the challenge is actually being happy in life".
GOLD
I've been waiting Victorinox content for like 3 years, thanks guys...greetings from Colombia!
I feel like a leatherman wave woupd of been a better choice. Even though alot of leathermans have the same tool the design on each saw/knife/file are shaped different and they do perform different
Either that or the Surge. The two are the most popular multitool choices among Alone winners. I haven't seen a single multitool channel that's into bushcraft recommend the Signal.
@@andrew66769 ya i have the surge, wave & and signal
leatherman wave doesn't have a reamer awl which is a big deal
@@maxlvledc would wrather carry a extra Swiss army knife than change leatherman
I’ve used countless ones through the years. The best one that has NEVER failed me: Leatherman Wave Plus. Military, construction, home; it’s great for a ton. Standard issue for dad’s everywhere.
I think Swiss Tool would be more comparable to Leatherman's Super Tool 300, but it's still amazing how well they both handled bushcrafting tasks. I'm still going to carry around a fixed blade in addition to my multitool.
Can you please review the Glock Feldmesser (either 78 or 81)? I know you don't like 1095, but it's a rather affordable and very sturdy bayonet and I heard it might stop being produced soon.
its the Austrian army knife and i don't think they will upgrade it :D
@@Saschastic even if it's still produced it's out of stock in many places not only in the US, but also where I live in central Europe. Might be a supply chain issue, but almost all variants are sold out everywhere I looked since February
@@Tri_Nitro okay here in Austria they are everywhere. Mine is already trash 🙈 but I can give it to you for free 🤷🏻♂️
@@Saschastic thanks, but keep it. It might be trash, but you can't beat a beater. I already have the Fm 81 barely used and wanted a 78 for use and abuse, that saw-back makes more problems than it solves for me. For now I'll stick with what I got
The supertool is excellent. It got me through the marine corps, only had to replace it because people kept losing it.
From Belgium; I love you guys' show. The woods are very similar; and the rain used to be a problem too 🙂
Awsome quality camera work & editing too. Keep up the good work!
I have had both the Victorinox Swisstool and the Swisstool Spirit X. In the end I kept the Spirit X because it fits in my watch pocket of my jeans and has rounded edges making it more comfortable to use. They both have the same features except for the Swisstool having a ruler and having the jaws of pliers being able to open up a bit wider. Also you can apply more force because of size with the Swisstool. But the compactness of the Swisstool Spirit X won it for me. I like the 'hardness' of the tools being exactly right (for me): the tools do not break but bend when applying too much force and can be bent back while still being able to keep an edge. Also rust resistance is great: using it in and around the sea does not immediately cause rust. You still need to rinse it after use with sea water and sometimes apply a drop of oil is recommended. Making fire with fire steel using the saw blade works great. Most used tool in my life. Have many great blades but since society frowns upon having a knife hanging from your belt this has been with me for the past years and worked great. And the best knife is the one you have with you and not the one laying in a drawer at home.... Still use Victorinox Outrider with my own fire steel and torch attachment when bush crafting in Norway. Also prefer small knife and a saw in the out doors... Just more weight and labor efficient compared to carrying a big knife. A small Gransfors axe also sometimes comes along just because the big knives do not appeal to me. Have used samekniv (leuku) but a Gransfors axe is far more efficient for building shelters. Cleaning fish (even big ones) is a bit of hassle with a samekniv so you also need a small knife.
Outrider: The small Philips 0-1 and the scissors in the knife are great… i wish have a nail file like a Sportman..
The scissors on the Spirit look bad though.
@@folksurvival They have a small opening but are very capable like many victorinox scissors. Can cut the nails of my big toe with them while most normal scissors fail at this task ;-)
@@christiaannooteboom7059 Maybe they aren't as bad as they seem but I'm considering the full size Swiss Tool instead of the Spirit partly because of the scissors.
@@folksurvival The scissors on the Spirit is less useful for cutting wrapping paper (and have cut a lot with it) but it is great at cutting metal sheet, paracord, band aid, bandages, nails, rope (that fits in the jaw, etc). I have carried both full size and Spirit around and in the end the Spirit X won: in the field I am usually not cutting wrapping paper and plastic sheets, mylar etc is no problem. (long time having them both on my belt: swiss tool to borrow to others, spirit for myself).
I liked that for a challenge between Leatherman and Victorinox you choose to show a glamour slow-mo shot of a Gerber multi tool :D
missed the awl on the signal hehe. sooo happy to see this video though
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Got a vic SwissToolRS 16 years ago and it's been my EDC all this years served me flawlessly an still in very good condition. All tools still are the original ones. Didn't need any repair or tool replacement. 👍
Ive had many leathermans and gerbers. I prefer the leatherman surge that i carry. One cool thing with the surge is the saw and file it comes with is the same blade chuck as a jigsaw so the variety of saw blades one could use is a lot. I dont use it for survival but more as an EDC and especially at work as a mechanic..
I've had my Spirit for more than 15 years, and it is still in amazing condition. Wild price tag, but she's going strong.
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I own this Swiss tool and I own multiple Leatherman tools. The Surge is the best multi tool on the market
Oehhh that one looks proper sturdy!!
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I've allowed my son to stay up way past bedtime just to watch DBK with dad. Should read; My wife has allowed me to allow him..but still, awesome tradition, valuable quality time. You guys rock!
Mate! Thats great!! It’s these kind of comments that make us watch our language more and try to clean up things a little so children might be able to watch it! Day hi to him for us please!
Cheers man!
Great vid! If I could recommend a video idea, I would suggest testing the new toughest benchmade which set a record in closed break strength: the claymore.
I have that Victorinox....let's hope it wins!!
Great review, you guys did things with a multi tool I wouldn't do, but now I know, so thanks.
For me the signal is the overall winner, one tool that does all around camp, especially the hammer makes it the winner (it works, but lacks some comfort).
For processing wood I use and axe the only role that my signal has in the process is the can opener to hold the wood stable, to keep my fingers away from the business end of my axe.
I had my doubts about a multitool competition but this was really good. I enjoyed that.
7:08 "a nice addition for my collection" - General Grievous
„That looks like a toddler batoning for the first time“ I’m dying
Had a vicrotinox for many years. I never had any real complaints until I was gifted a surge.
The vixtorinox is definitely the more refined product, but the surge is unbeatable if you're looking for a no nonsense hard use multi tool. You would be hard pressed to find anyone anywhere that uses their multi tool harder or more frequently than I do (pipeline contractor that averages around 70 hours at work a week), and there is no way my victorinox would have held up the way my surge has. It's easily the toughest and most diverse multi tool on the market.
I have a Leatherman FREE P4 and it is fantastic. It has a completely different locking mechanism that the signal. It also has bot ha serrated blade and a non serrated blade. It works great.
I finally got my first mirror polish on an edge, I'm so happy rn.
Would've liked to seen Leatherman put s30v or s35vn,on all their multitools for better edge retention, I love how sharp the Leatherman charge series have a awesome blade steel,just saying Leatherman if your listening since the surge an st 300 an charge are already kinda of expensive or give the buyer the option when buying to choose when making a purchase.
F1 Pro is my dream Elmax knife ❤️ Hi from Georgia and keep your great videos!
great video very entertaining glad to see you guys after what you have gone through all the best looking forward to the next one :)
It would be nice to have the Leatherman with you. A small sharpener and fire steel is extremely helpful.
I'm all about that multitool life. Both of these tools are fantastic, well designed and are built to last. Great video, guys!
I love my Leatherman wave plus. I use it as a back up knife and tool.
Got my Leatherman Wave for abot 5 years and still is doing well.Use it every day at work and home.The only regret is for the leather sheath.Half year in Benin,all the moisture from the sweat gave their.But the tool itself is pretty good.Want to try some Victorinox,but can't afford today's prices.But...who knows?May be sometime,when wife is not around, when some euros remain in the account.... Hopefully.Regards!
Mikkie hit me in my heart with that saying 8:24
nice work guys!
Great video, I really wanted to see those go toe to toe. Ps can you please review the glock knife next? 30 dollar value? I wanna know if it will survive your tests
Maybe you guys should do more multitool competitions to see who makes the best multitool.
Leatherman surge beats anything IMO
Proves it can do it if you need it to. These are basically the two best saws on multitools available. Good idea having a firesteel as part of the tool, too.
No. The Surge has the same tooth pattern as the Signal and, its longer and taller. With the Leatherman belt sheath they have a loop on each side. A Exo-Tac nano-strike and a Streamlight Micro stream 1aaa flashlight fit perfectly. I've carried my Charge this way for about5-6 years now.
My first multitools were Leatherman, charge and rebar. After I got a spirit x I haven't looked back. I still enjoy my Leathermans but the victorinox has far superior build quality.
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Very nice review indeed. I only just realized you use the Dragonball theme for your knife promotion at the end. Very cool 😀
hi! BDK , I'm from the Philippines , great video and comparisons and reviews to the other knives as well .. will you have a chance or time to review the Cold Steel Tek 6.5 .. thanks keep safe.
The Victorinox, every day of the week. I own multiple multitools from different brands, but if i need ONE tool to count on i always take the swisstool…
This is the channel with two most honest, unmasked, truly authentic guys whos show I really like. Best and honest kind of entertainment. Okay, one has to share this peculiar interest in knives and fire making. Like you guys! Kind regards from Germany! (just to make this clear: I am 100 % hetero.... ;-)
Nice video guys. They will work but I like a full tang knife for most. But the saw could be handy
Loved this video. I usually carry a ( Leatherman) multitool and a knife ( terava jaakaripuukko, thanks DBK) around the farm and the combination of both are perfect. I used to have the Victorinox multitool 20 years ago but it broke unfortunately and didn't have the guarantee like Leatherman. It seems that Victorinox has caught up with the quality of Leatherman. Thanks DBK for changing a bit from fixed blades, folders and choppers to multitools for once. Keep making videos, my 8 year old son and I enjoy them greatly
Awesome. I wanted to get your guy's opinion on the victorinox because I was debating on getting one but feel that they use a softer steel and has less tools than a Leatherman in terms of accessories like adapters.
For this task.....just starting a fire the victorinox farmer (alox) is better in my opinion. Cheaper, smaller, lighter, & it is far more comfortable in hand for making feathersticks.
Im glad you say its preference. There are many models and uses for the task at hand. Crimping and cutting wire. Splicing. Screw driver work. Opening boxes. Dealing with appliances and electrical devices. So many things. Victorinox was advertised in the US as like the boy scout Swiss Army Knife that all kids would want at camping trips. But I have a preference toward my Leatherman wave. It always comes in handy for most useful tasks in a pinch away from the Bushcraft scene. I could even use it for some survival tasks should that ever but hopefully not happen since I been using it for over 20 years. I loved my victorianox as a kid because of just having a toothpick at hand LOL.
But why the signal? It's one of LMs worst tools.
Completely agree it should be the LM surge instead of the signal
I believe our mindset was to buy two multitools in hopefully exactly the same price range and then knives and tools (shop) recommenden these two for the use we used them for
@@DutchBushcraftKnives The Surge and the Signal come in at the same price. The signal is marketed towards "survival" but it's inferior to the Surge in every way.
@@p4inmaker we should definitely check it out someday too
@@DutchBushcraftKnives It's a beast, should make for a fun video for sure!
I've owned, and still own, a bunch of multitools. My favorites are Victorinox because they just have everything and their steel is more stain resistant than Leatherman's. I like the replaceable cutters on the newer Leatherman tools, and I like the way they're moving toward one hand opening in a more efficient way than Victorinox has with their attempt a couple years back, but I still prefer the overall Victorinox toolsets.
either one is great i guess. proven by tens of thousands of users daily,i see no point in arguing which one is better, stick to one you wants most and use it to its limits. i LOVE my Charge, will deff buy Ti version one day. but until then, stock one suits my needs damn well. great VS video btw :)
really like the idear of the ferro rod and sharpener on the leatherman, but i need the tool combo of non serrated blade, plier, saw, file and scissors on a multitool. so i am in favor for the vic
Would love to se a video on the ratnik 6e6 multi tool if you can get ahold of one
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Awesome video boys! In my opinion multitools are great for urban use and as a backup in the woods, just to be prepared. A nice fixed blade often does the job better but a multitool is a bit more allround. As a student, I like it to keep a leatherman rebar in my pack for all kind of situations in which you need a knife/saw/screwdriver. That said, pliers also are often very handy!
The music is back love the music the fire was exceptional especially with the slow motion but the knife on the tongue let’s not do that anymore you guys rock see you next time
I have some Leatherman and Victorinox multi-tools. The Leatherman Surge is great right up until you need to use the wire cutters more than a couple times. That's when you need the Victorinox Spirit Plus, which also comes with a ratchet set. I still use my Leatherman multi-tools, but the Victorinox Spirit Plus just doesn't have an equal. Also try not to baton with these things. If you ever baton with a folder, the blade should always be at 90 degrees from the handle (like they do after Martin breaks the lock on his) so you don't bust the lock for the sheer joy of destruction.
Excellent subject for this Thursday friends. Looking forward to more of these. I have a MUT, Surge & Wave +…all are better than the Signal. FYI. Keep up the great work. 🙏🏻
The signal seems like a bit of a gimmick to me. Maybe something to throw in an emergency kit as it ticks many boxes, but for an actual tool to bring into the woods I think the surge seems like a much more obvious option
I've used that exact victorinox as a work tool for over 2 years now and it's a solid tool and has a decent knife
I´m from germany and i would ALWAYS choose the Victorinox♥ !
Is that what the Nazis would choose as well?
@@gilbertopadilla3611 Yo that is a racist statement and uncalled for.
Not to but saying it.. in Chicago we believe that statement in Berlin would put you in jail kaos!
@@gilbertopadilla3611 >>💩💩💩😉
I have Leatherman Skeletool CX and I sell them for Victorinox Spirit MX clip it's much better multi tool and for 50grams it's worth it.
after 18 years of faultless carrying my victorinox and countless warranty claims on leathermans for snapped tools I think the results speak for themselves. Oh one other thing, leathermans rust at the slightest hint of moisture whereas victorinox stay fresh and shiny.
That is interesting. Ive been using Leathermans in Western Oregon (lots of rain) for at least 20 years and have had no rust issues. Ive dumped them into rivers and lakes kayaking or portaging on hunting trips too.
I have a Wave (amongst other Leathermans) approx. 22 years old: used and no signs of rust - actually never had any rust issues not with Leatherman, nor with Victorinox and Wenger (which is now Victorinox too). The biggest issue I have with Victorinox and Wenger is the softness of the stainless steel that seems to loose the edge by just laying around, they are easy to sharpen so.
Been using Leathermans for 20 plus years in the Army to include deployments and never had rust issues.
After watching THE BOYS Mickey looks like 'Small evil Dutch Homelander'😂😂😂
Nothing beats my BG Gerber, found it 4years ago by the sea when I was fishing I abuse it 3-4times a week still good as new
Quick question: Would the chisel not have been better for the scraping? (no edge damage of the knife blade...) I mean you showed that the Swisstool had one, so why not use it?
(Or was it like it's usually in my life: realizing that that thing exists afterwards.)
No we tried (have it on film but did not use it in the video) and it sucked for that task funny enough. Maybe we had to leave it in but it seemed un interesting and here you are proving that wrong!
Haha thanks for the feedback mate!
@@DutchBushcraftKnives Thanks for answering!
Thank´s for sharing! I own a GERBER Multi Plier and a LEATHERMAN Wave, both over 23 years now. They hold both up very well, but the Wave is for me the better one. And if I would have to buy a new one today, I would look for LEATHERMAN....
Gruß Torsten
the back of the wood saw is an awesome scrapper,,,
I have a leatherman surge. now that's a big beast of a man tool
My choice has always depended on the occasion. For weddings and festive occasions, a classic leatherman is worn in a leather case and with it a zippo also in a leather case. and for picnics and regular days, something more robust and slightly larger is desirable due to greater usability. So I recommend everyone to buy the most robust model in stainless steel version regardless of the manufacturer unless they have small fists.
Great show guys.👍👍
also i have both brands for different things. my work a day is Leatherman as i work on boilers and chillers. my knife is Victorinox. both make great products,.
Guys! I was just delivered a Fallkniven F1 Pro in Elmax today! I'm so happy
Great vid once again
I've owned Leatherman and I
Switched to swisstools years ago. After selling Leatherman for years at House of knives...I found that I would warranty 1 Leatherman a month..at least...I never once had to Warranty any Swiss tool...plus the swisstool X makes a carpenter square..swisstools for the win ..always
Just as I’m looking into which multitool to get. Perfect timing 👍
Get the Surge . The Surge is the best tool on the market
I have a victorinox spirit, it’s one of the only multi tools that you can add a cork screw attachment to which is great for me 😂
Good video guys, let's keep this style...
The perfect video!! I want a victorinox and have for awhile
I own a Victorinox swisstool like the one in the video, and it's definitely better made than leatherman. The compression locks are really sturdy, and even after years of hard use there is no play in any part of the Victorinox (can't say the same for many Leathermans...)
And if you're european, you're getting more bang for your buck with the swisstool (100-110 euros) than with a leatherman in the same price range (import from the USA).
I have the swisstool and the surge. While the swisstool has better fit and finish, i prefer using the surge. The compression locks on mine, while sturdy enough to keep the blade locked, all have, imo, unacceptable movement.
The wave or surge is a way better pick. Spirit is awesome but the steel is soft.
What ANS`s are you guys currently cycling?
My leatherman has been my multi tool of choice for a year and a half now after a Gerber multitool crapped out on me after about 4 weeks of use, it’s been through some seriously shitty environments and hasn’t failed me yet. My very first “knife” was a big Victorinox multitool my dad gave me. I’d take a leatherman any day of the week.
What do you guys think of the Leatherman wave plus ??
You guys are amazing, you Should try the victorinox hunter pro, Greetings from México
I know about a dozen outdoorsman that carry Leatherman. None carry the signal. Charge, Wave, Surge, Rebar.
I carry a surge everyday. Into the bush alot. I have an 8 inch jigsaw blade that can attach to my surge and I can literally cut down up to 6 inch trees with it , you just have to treat it like a pull saw so you don't bend the thinner blades
Would you do a test on the British army mod knife I think it's one of the best field knives
Uhhhh, I need one of those fallkniven, but I can not afford one, would make a great knife for when I take my kids camping.
I’ve not found screwdrivers to be very useful while bush-crafting. I have a leather man signal and I really like the features it has.
They usually are useful for gear maintenance during a trip like tightening down snowshoes
Victorinox gang. I bought my Victorinox multitool from a random guy who wanted to sell it to me for 40$. I dunno if he stole it or really wanted some crack money, but I was so broke at a time and only had my last 10$ till payday. I told him that this is a fking good multitool, but I don't have even 20$. He eventually go down to 5$ and I said it him: You know what? You not gonna sell it to me for 5, here is my last 10$ and it's a deal. And leather sheet with L-Wrench and bit set was included!
I dunno if he was a devil and I had to trade my soul with that 10$ for a multitool but I love it ever since and it helped me a lot. It's really for a casual outdoor and indoor use. It's great to have a jack of all trade tool, especially in a tricky situation.
The only Leatherman model that can compete with Leather is Leatherman Super Tool 300, but still the design is still not there ;) You can access all the tools with Victorinox, but you can't with any Leatherman. You have to unfold it to get access to every tool.
Oh my ! The multi verse has struck the Dutch Boys. How many hits on the glass pipe equal a TH-cam video ? Remember….be safe boys, there is danger in them thar woods !
You guys are amazing.Are you two brothers?
I have a few plier based multi-tools but prefer a Victorinox Swiss Army Knife for daily carry over them. The reason is that, to me, a SAK is foremost a knife with some other tools while a multi-tool is foremost a set of pliers with a knife blade among some other tools. I use a knife daily more than I use pliers and for daily tasks like peeling apples and things like that trying to use the usually awkwardly placed knife on a multi-tool sucks. You mentioned liking that the blade on the multi-tools lock but the blade on the model of SAK I carry also has a liner lock. As far as plier based multi-tools go I like the Gerber models with pliers which slide out the end because the pliers can more easily be deployed one-handed (not all Gerber multi-tools are made that way). One of my biggest uses for a multi-tool is removing fish hooks from fishes' mouths without harming the fish, when possible, if I am going to release it. Holding a fish in one hand it is much easier to take one of those Gerber models out of the belt sheath, deploy the pliers and pull the hook with the other hand.
I like the description you have at the beginning for the SAK and a Multitool. It really fits. But in general i think the usecase makes the difference in what fits the user.
I too usually carry a SAK in my pocket at all times.
But at work i also have a Leatherman Charge ALX in my backpack. It's knifeblade gets used for opening packets at work, because the sticky substances of the packet tape always collects on the blade, and so i have one cutting blade dedicated to that, that i occasionally clean from that sticky stuff, and the SAK blade stays clean from that.
Apart from that i mostly use the Charge for it's bitholders and the slim bits that are stored inside the sheath needing minimal space.(and since i got the ratchet, it's become even a competition to a real screwdriver in some instances.) I even have sharpened the kitchen knifes at work with the diamond file of the leatherman once. (not having better sharpening stuff with me and not wanting to cook with the Vic when there are actual kitchen knifes. And just to make sure: we have a kitchen at work, for us to use, so that weren't the knives used by an actual professional chef )
I use a Victorinox Spirit for a real EDC. I have a perfect cheap leather sheath for it so I can carry it horizontally on my belt. So you can wear it without feeling it, but it's there when you need it
i alvays give all my money for Martin if its about fire making :D i Letterman fan boy, so chce my faworite but all respect to Victor. Ps. That was my idea for episode! TY guys!
Nice to see a multitool here. Maybe you can try victorinox with 11/13 cm locking blades. They can take a beating. I've see one with a broken blade before its mechanism broke.
Leatherman Charge TTI should have been chosen. Great warranty. They really stand behind their products.
Can you review the leatherman surge?
Should have also done a Gerber as the majority of the soldiers I served with were issued or bought a gerber and carried them over the other options for multi-tools