I'll never forget it. This was when I was 14 and I was still pretty hardcore about NASCAR at the time, although I also watched every sports car race I could... and every Indy 500 since about 1991. My history with Indycar up to that point was erratic and the last Indycar race before this I had watched was CART's 1996 Indy Toronto. As far as I knew Indycars sounded like bees, paint my face confused when I tuned in for this race. I remember not really liking the change, but thoroughly enjoying the racing and the drivers. Tuned in to IRL consistently since then and of course today it's the unified Indycar Series. One thing I always hated is how people diss the "talent pool" or lack-thereof during the IRL days. Maybe they weren't the most talented group of open wheel drivers, but in my recollection.... they usually put on a better quality race and Cart, with all its glorious drivers, had many more embarrassing moments caused by driver errors. Weird era overall for open wheel. For motorsports as a whole it was a tremendous time though. USAC, WoO, SCCA, ASA, and even IMCA all had full TV coverage of all their races. You always had a race to watch at least once but usually twice in-between race weekends. Just think, back then we thought the Networks were super greedy. Little would we know how greedy they would soon become, and that it would be the networks that would kill off the majority of non-premier motorsports coverage.
Yeah CART was where retired F1 drivers went. But Indy was a bunch of young hungry drivers who wanted to compete in the IRL for its own sake and not just a stepping stone to something else, and they weren't just retired drivers from another competition just there to chill out and earn millions while not trying as hard. These days, the unified Indycar is all about that. It's packed full of young hungry drivers who all are desperate to win indycar championships. You've got people like Josef Newgarden who was on course to being the best American driver in F1 ever, his entire life had been dedicated to eventually making it to F1. But once he tried Indycar he found it was a lot more fun, indycar is much much more about the drivers than it is about the cars, whereas F1 is the other way around where even the best driver in the world isn't gonna win anything in the worst car, there's just nothing that can be done But with indycar it's much more open. There's 10+ drivers who can win a race at any one time. The championship is completely wide open and it's anybody's guess who's gonna win the title, whereas in F1 it's already between only 4 people at most, and that's being _VERY_ generous. Ultimately it's almost certain to be Max again. Don't get me wrong I adore F1 and I always will. But man I was an idiot missing out on indycar all these years. Nascar too. They're both amazing.
Awesome to finally have a high quality version of this race! We still need to get two IRL races from 1998 back onto TH-cam which are the 1998 Pep Boys 400K (Dover) and the 1998 Visionaire 500K (Charlotte)! The two aforementioned races in addition to the 1996 True Value 200 (Loudon), the 1998 Atlanta 500 Classic (Atlanta), the 1998 Lone Star 500 (Texas), and the 1998 Las Vegas 500K (Las Vegas) also deserve high quality versions!
Final race under the USAC sanction. After the confusing green-checkered finish at Indy and this scoring fiasco a week later, the IRL took control of officiating for the next race in Colorado.
HODIUSDUDE USAC should have been out of Indycar completely by the 80s. CART should have sanctioned the Indy 500 in the 80s and maybe a split would not have happened the way it did in 1996 and USAC was still a major player since it still ran the 500 in 1996. However maybe IMS would have been forced to just keep the CART relationship going due to USAC not being in control of IMS but Tony George would probably got a new team and a few from the USAC group.
USAC had proven itself unable to manage racing at this level 20 years prior, which is why CART existed in the first place. It then continued to prove that every year while reigning over its one-race fiefdom at Indy. The biggest race of the year was run not only run to technical regs that were slightly different, but some procedures were different (like when it was ok to pass the pace car during a restart, as Scott Goodyear found out...plus USAC brought the closed pits over from NASCAR a few years before CART did). That wasn't ideal, but the real kicker was they seemed to make up penalties as they went along and never accepted blame for anything, ever. The only reason they were able to hang around was because of their ties to the Hulman/George family, and I have no doubt that if Indy had not persisted as a one-race championship throughout the '80s, Tony George would have accepted in the '90s that he needed to work with CART instead of trying to build that one-race championship back into a full series.
Holy, I forgot they had a second deck to the back stretch stands. Now barely few if anyone sits on the lower deck. I wish people still cared as much about motorsport as they did in the 90's.
@@flyingphoenix113 th-cam.com/video/2RPxmmbeh_g/w-d-xo.html Starting in Australia this year, S5000. It's an American built Ligier F3 chassis with the Honda 4cyl replaced by a Ford Aluminator V8
1:34:00 was actually a battle for the lead, but nobody knew it at the time. Luyendyk was scored as a lap down throughout the race, but he was not. USAC got fired as IRL's timing and scoring partner after this race.
Not only that USAC that year messed up the finish to the Indy 500 they dropped the green flag while still having the caution lights on around the track
I'll never forget it. This was when I was 14 and I was still pretty hardcore about NASCAR at the time, although I also watched every sports car race I could... and every Indy 500 since about 1991. My history with Indycar up to that point was erratic and the last Indycar race before this I had watched was CART's 1996 Indy Toronto. As far as I knew Indycars sounded like bees, paint my face confused when I tuned in for this race. I remember not really liking the change, but thoroughly enjoying the racing and the drivers. Tuned in to IRL consistently since then and of course today it's the unified Indycar Series. One thing I always hated is how people diss the "talent pool" or lack-thereof during the IRL days. Maybe they weren't the most talented group of open wheel drivers, but in my recollection.... they usually put on a better quality race and Cart, with all its glorious drivers, had many more embarrassing moments caused by driver errors. Weird era overall for open wheel. For motorsports as a whole it was a tremendous time though. USAC, WoO, SCCA, ASA, and even IMCA all had full TV coverage of all their races. You always had a race to watch at least once but usually twice in-between race weekends. Just think, back then we thought the Networks were super greedy. Little would we know how greedy they would soon become, and that it would be the networks that would kill off the majority of non-premier motorsports coverage.
@@captainnebulous2918 Hate to say it, but you're misremembering. IRL didn't really get good until 2000/01. Early IRL days were a mess. Many yellows, lots of races with less than 7 cars on the lead lap, drivers getting hurt in pretty standard wrecks. I
@@captainnebulous2918 Also, WOO and USAC did not have full season coverage. They had several races live on TNN (WOO) and ESPN (USAC). IMSA, most of the races were actually shortened for tv. ASA generally did have full coverage though. Hate to say it, but I think this is the golden age of dirt and sprint broadcasting. Every race is live, and nothing is shortened for tv time. USAC's heats were regularly shortened to fit a 2 hour or 2 and a half hour time window. Once in 96, they just didn't cover the ending of a midget race after it'd been red flagged. I love those races, and the coverage was great, but nostalgia doesn't always paint the picture. As for Indycar, I was mostly a CART and CCWS fan, but casually watched IRL.
@@SwineBrothers 7 to 12 cars on the lead lap was pretty much the norm for open wheel up to that point. Lead lap car numbers wasn't this huge overblown deal like it is today
@@captainnebulous2918 Tony Stewart was leading by 2 laps in 97 before he blew an engine. As for race quality though, a lot of old IRL races were wreckfest. CART had driver error for sure, what series didn't. But man..The machines, the drivers, everything was just so much more.
This was also after the Indy 500 and that would be the draw and everyone wanted to see a NASCAR like race which the IRL used to be with the engines as well sounding like NASCAR.
So miss the days of Indycars racing on Ovals. Really made the series worth watching a lot. Enjoy Paul Page announcing these races, nobody does it better.
Hmm, there's a segment here with 40 laps to go which didn't go out in the "live" broadcast. Which makes it all the more intriguing that ESPN went off the air without acknowledging the Arie and AJ scuffle.
I wonder how this race would have been if the IRL did use the Lower banking like they were planned to use. Neat idea but it wouldn't have worked too well I think.
They found during testing that the higher banking worked better than expected during the first practice session. The idea behind the dual banking was that TMS would have blocked off the upper banking with a barricade if the speeds were too high and kept them on the low side, but it wasn't necessary. CART's chief steward at the time rejected the implementation of the dual banking because of the transition, which was borne out by the wreckfest NASCAR races over the first three years.
@@DixytheGoat9right exactly lol I've been back to Texas multiple times since then been to every Indycar race at Kansas Speedway from 2001-2010 and every Indy 500 since 2002
SergioF1LG IMS and CART owners had dispute over USAC guys that were champions in the sliver crown and dirt track division not getting rides and the costs. Also they thought CART just treated the Indy 500 just as another race. However the 1996 Indy 500 25/8 rule never should have been created.
Es el origen de actual campeonato de IndyCar. A mediados de los 90 Indianápolis motor speedway se separó de la CART y crearon una serie disidente llamada IRL (Indy Racing League). La CART perdió el derecho sobre el nombre "IndyCar" mientras que la IRL no pudo usar ese nombre hasta 2003.
Olds Aurora engines aside (still better than today's stuff) But hey, 1:51:08 we had AJ slapping Arie at the end after the credits, the most "out of left field" moment that year
Wow, Jon Beekhuis hasn't aged at all!
I'll never forget it. This was when I was 14 and I was still pretty hardcore about NASCAR at the time, although I also watched every sports car race I could... and every Indy 500 since about 1991. My history with Indycar up to that point was erratic and the last Indycar race before this I had watched was CART's 1996 Indy Toronto. As far as I knew Indycars sounded like bees, paint my face confused when I tuned in for this race. I remember not really liking the change, but thoroughly enjoying the racing and the drivers. Tuned in to IRL consistently since then and of course today it's the unified Indycar Series.
One thing I always hated is how people diss the "talent pool" or lack-thereof during the IRL days. Maybe they weren't the most talented group of open wheel drivers, but in my recollection.... they usually put on a better quality race and Cart, with all its glorious drivers, had many more embarrassing moments caused by driver errors.
Weird era overall for open wheel. For motorsports as a whole it was a tremendous time though. USAC, WoO, SCCA, ASA, and even IMCA all had full TV coverage of all their races. You always had a race to watch at least once but usually twice in-between race weekends.
Just think, back then we thought the Networks were super greedy. Little would we know how greedy they would soon become, and that it would be the networks that would kill off the majority of non-premier motorsports coverage.
Yeah CART was where retired F1 drivers went. But Indy was a bunch of young hungry drivers who wanted to compete in the IRL for its own sake and not just a stepping stone to something else, and they weren't just retired drivers from another competition just there to chill out and earn millions while not trying as hard.
These days, the unified Indycar is all about that. It's packed full of young hungry drivers who all are desperate to win indycar championships. You've got people like Josef Newgarden who was on course to being the best American driver in F1 ever, his entire life had been dedicated to eventually making it to F1. But once he tried Indycar he found it was a lot more fun, indycar is much much more about the drivers than it is about the cars, whereas F1 is the other way around where even the best driver in the world isn't gonna win anything in the worst car, there's just nothing that can be done
But with indycar it's much more open. There's 10+ drivers who can win a race at any one time. The championship is completely wide open and it's anybody's guess who's gonna win the title, whereas in F1 it's already between only 4 people at most, and that's being _VERY_ generous. Ultimately it's almost certain to be Max again.
Don't get me wrong I adore F1 and I always will. But man I was an idiot missing out on indycar all these years. Nascar too. They're both amazing.
Awesome to finally have a high quality version of this race! We still need to get two IRL races from 1998 back onto TH-cam which are the 1998 Pep Boys 400K (Dover) and the 1998 Visionaire 500K (Charlotte)! The two aforementioned races in addition to the 1996 True Value 200 (Loudon), the 1998 Atlanta 500 Classic (Atlanta), the 1998 Lone Star 500 (Texas), and the 1998 Las Vegas 500K (Las Vegas) also deserve high quality versions!
Final race under the USAC sanction. After the confusing green-checkered finish at Indy and this scoring fiasco a week later, the IRL took control of officiating for the next race in Colorado.
HODIUSDUDE USAC should have been out of Indycar completely by the 80s. CART should have sanctioned the Indy 500 in the 80s and maybe a split would not have happened the way it did in 1996 and USAC was still a major player since it still ran the 500 in 1996. However maybe IMS would have been forced to just keep the CART relationship going due to USAC not being in control of IMS but Tony George would probably got a new team and a few from the USAC group.
USAC had proven itself unable to manage racing at this level 20 years prior, which is why CART existed in the first place. It then continued to prove that every year while reigning over its one-race fiefdom at Indy. The biggest race of the year was run not only run to technical regs that were slightly different, but some procedures were different (like when it was ok to pass the pace car during a restart, as Scott Goodyear found out...plus USAC brought the closed pits over from NASCAR a few years before CART did). That wasn't ideal, but the real kicker was they seemed to make up penalties as they went along and never accepted blame for anything, ever. The only reason they were able to hang around was because of their ties to the Hulman/George family, and I have no doubt that if Indy had not persisted as a one-race championship throughout the '80s, Tony George would have accepted in the '90s that he needed to work with CART instead of trying to build that one-race championship back into a full series.
USAC was always inept
Holy, I forgot they had a second deck to the back stretch stands. Now barely few if anyone sits on the lower deck. I wish people still cared as much about motorsport as they did in the 90's.
It's so weird to hear Indy Cars sound like stock cars. Open wheel cars just aren't supposed to sound like that.
Imho, they sound amazing. I would love it if indycars sounded like that today...
Thank Tony George for the IRL nearly destroying all of Indycar.
@@flyingphoenix113 th-cam.com/video/2RPxmmbeh_g/w-d-xo.html Starting in Australia this year, S5000. It's an American built Ligier F3 chassis with the Honda 4cyl replaced by a Ford Aluminator V8
Sound like old fórmula 5000 likes
th-cam.com/video/iSCy7nBqZ2Q/w-d-xo.html
1:34:00 was actually a battle for the lead, but nobody knew it at the time. Luyendyk was scored as a lap down throughout the race, but he was not. USAC got fired as IRL's timing and scoring partner after this race.
Not only that USAC that year messed up the finish to the Indy 500 they dropped the green flag while still having the caution lights on around the track
49:24 turn up the volume and you can hear tyre explosion sound
yeah. that looked very scary
@@johnvandeventer8668 jim guthrie ( Number #27 ) got out of the car after tire exploded on the right rear tyre crash at the Turn 1.
AJ slapped Arie right after the race in Victory Lane. It was one of the most hilarious things that happened
At 1:49:45 you can see AJ going after Arie in front of the winners circle lol.
_"Meanwhile after the broadcast concluded..."_ 😁 lmao!
The angle I didn’t know existed
IIRC, the track had dual 8 and 24 degree banking at the time. Really hard to tell from the images though
I've always loved this race and to finally have a high quality version is amazing.
you can bet every time they upload an irl race, someone will comment that they sound like nascar...i'm surprised more people forgot about this era.
I'll never forget it. This was when I was 14 and I was still pretty hardcore about NASCAR at the time, although I also watched every sports car race I could... and every Indy 500 since about 1991. My history with Indycar up to that point was erratic and the last Indycar race before this I had watched was CART's 1996 Indy Toronto. As far as I knew Indycars sounded like bees, paint my face confused when I tuned in for this race. I remember not really liking the change, but thoroughly enjoying the racing and the drivers. Tuned in to IRL consistently since then and of course today it's the unified Indycar Series.
One thing I always hated is how people diss the "talent pool" or lack-thereof during the IRL days. Maybe they weren't the most talented group of open wheel drivers, but in my recollection.... they usually put on a better quality race and Cart, with all its glorious drivers, had many more embarrassing moments caused by driver errors.
Weird era overall for open wheel. For motorsports as a whole it was a tremendous time though. USAC, WoO, SCCA, ASA, and even IMCA all had full TV coverage of all their races. You always had a race to watch at least once but usually twice in-between race weekends.
Just think, back then we thought the Networks were super greedy. Little would we know how greedy they would soon become, and that it would be the networks that would kill off the majority of non-premier motorsports coverage.
@@captainnebulous2918 Hate to say it, but you're misremembering. IRL didn't really get good until 2000/01. Early IRL days were a mess. Many yellows, lots of races with less than 7 cars on the lead lap, drivers getting hurt in pretty standard wrecks. I
@@captainnebulous2918 Also, WOO and USAC did not have full season coverage. They had several races live on TNN (WOO) and ESPN (USAC). IMSA, most of the races were actually shortened for tv. ASA generally did have full coverage though. Hate to say it, but I think this is the golden age of dirt and sprint broadcasting. Every race is live, and nothing is shortened for tv time. USAC's heats were regularly shortened to fit a 2 hour or 2 and a half hour time window. Once in 96, they just didn't cover the ending of a midget race after it'd been red flagged. I love those races, and the coverage was great, but nostalgia doesn't always paint the picture. As for Indycar, I was mostly a CART and CCWS fan, but casually watched IRL.
@@SwineBrothers 7 to 12 cars on the lead lap was pretty much the norm for open wheel up to that point. Lead lap car numbers wasn't this huge overblown deal like it is today
@@captainnebulous2918 Tony Stewart was leading by 2 laps in 97 before he blew an engine. As for race quality though, a lot of old IRL races were wreckfest. CART had driver error for sure, what series didn't. But man..The machines, the drivers, everything was just so much more.
Vincenzo Sospiri started this race? He must have been ready to jump into anything after the Mastercard Lola disaster!
Skip to post-credits scene: 1:51:04
High quality race.
Thank you for uploading old races, Indycar!
Could you please upload the 1995, 1996 and 2000 Indy 500?
This was also after the Indy 500 and that would be the draw and everyone wanted to see a NASCAR like race which the IRL used to be with the engines as well sounding like NASCAR.
Those engines were stock block naturally aspirated 4.0 liter V8's from Oldsmobile and infinite
I'm glad that Boat won this same race the following year to make up for losing out on this one ultimately.
Arie ended up winning the race USAC messed up the scoring it was corrected the next day
So miss the days of Indycars racing on Ovals. Really made the series worth watching a lot. Enjoy Paul Page announcing these races, nobody does it better.
Hmm, there's a segment here with 40 laps to go which didn't go out in the "live" broadcast. Which makes it all the more intriguing that ESPN went off the air without acknowledging the Arie and AJ scuffle.
I'm here for the sucker slap AJ gave Arie at the end of the broadcast lol
Great upload. Thanks Indycar.
Sparky?
I love Texas, but that is terrifying.
I wonder how this race would have been if the IRL did use the Lower banking like they were planned to use. Neat idea but it wouldn't have worked too well I think.
They found during testing that the higher banking worked better than expected during the first practice session. The idea behind the dual banking was that TMS would have blocked off the upper banking with a barricade if the speeds were too high and kept them on the low side, but it wasn't necessary. CART's chief steward at the time rejected the implementation of the dual banking because of the transition, which was borne out by the wreckfest NASCAR races over the first three years.
What's everyone's favorite IRL races from 1996-2000?
The first that comes to mind was Jim Guthrie beating Tony Stewart at Phoenix in 1997. But there were so many.
my god the v8
Those engines sounds like nascar engine
This was my first indycar race I was 4
XD perfect way to get introduced to Indycar having AJ Foyt slapping Arie Luyendyk
@@DixytheGoat9right exactly lol I've been back to Texas multiple times since then been to every Indycar race at Kansas Speedway from 2001-2010 and every Indy 500 since 2002
Put up highlights from the CART race here!
What race?
Exactly.
This is a weird flex, since CART's problem was that they were so much faster
Texas is the best race every year
😍 Engine Sound 🏎🇧🇷🇧🇷
Those IndyCar sounds like NASCAR or Fórmula 5000 cars
Stewart? Tony Stewart??
Sospiri? Vincenzo Sospiri?? The guy that Michael Schumacher idolized??? That sospiri????
Team Scandia being shady about their engines
IRL????
SergioF1LG IMS and CART owners had dispute over USAC guys that were champions in the sliver crown and dirt track division not getting rides and the costs. Also they thought CART just treated the Indy 500 just as another race. However the 1996 Indy 500 25/8 rule never should have been created.
Known by detractors as the Indy Rookie League due to seat fillers like Vincenzo Sospiri, Dr. Jack Miller and Dennis Vitolo...
FiddlerSteve what about slick racin Gardner lol.
Es el origen de actual campeonato de IndyCar. A mediados de los 90 Indianápolis motor speedway se separó de la CART y crearon una serie disidente llamada IRL (Indy Racing League). La CART perdió el derecho sobre el nombre "IndyCar" mientras que la IRL no pudo usar ese nombre hasta 2003.
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Upload the 2001 Firestone Firehawk 600!
Diecastreviews They’re not going to since that race was cancelled due to excessive speeds.
@@matthewmcsweeney5996 there is an upload of it here already.
Take note Nascar, Indycar cares about fans to upload old races unlike you guys delete and copystrike old races.
Who else misses this era?
Not me.
I miss the big V8 engine noise!
No one.
I miss CART not the IRL!!
If Tony George didn’t become IMS president this would never have happened.
1:41:19
Say what you want about it but V8s on an Indycar, not my cup of tea
🤮🤮🤮these things sounded like stock cars🤮🤮🤮
Olds Aurora engines aside (still better than today's stuff) But hey, 1:51:08 we had AJ slapping Arie at the end after the credits, the most "out of left field" moment that year
Terrible. FTG.