Hats off to you Z. The effort gone into this is tremendous and I am sure the manufacturers are watching and this video could prove to be a turning point at some time in the future. I know its a lot to ask, however we need more such videos. Brilliant.
@@ZReviews hey miniDSP if you're reading this: I've been looking at your Dirac and Studio products for over a year now, maybe a review of the product would push me over the edge to actually buy it
Yeah from what I gather you could basically go from the UDIO-8 to the DDRC-88D and then to all the DACs. That way you can do all the EQ, room correction, etc. in the DDRC-88D and if you still want to have the front channel stuff with VU meters, etc. you can still throw in a nanoDigi just as the setup is atm.
Meridian makes them. The HDMI 621 and UHD 722 processor. You feed it the output of a UHD BD player over HDMI (that does the THD and DTS MA decoding) and get up to pure LPCM 7.1 over 4x Digital Coax outputs. It doesn't only work with their gear. What is specific to them is their exclusive 96kHz Upsampling or MHR which is encrypted.
Hello, thank you very much for your comment !!!!! , are you sure it works with SPDIF inputs of any dac ? They say that the four phono sockets are encrypted to Meridian High Resolution, Did you test it or someone else on the internet ? again thank you for your comment :)
@@martinjean5198 Yes I am sure, I have an HDMI 621 with a non Meridian processor and have used them in Meridian systems. I don't just say things out of my ass. I use one to give an Accuphase VX-700 digital lossless multi-ch input using its outboard DSP inputs. It will just be limited to 48kHz without Meridian's 96kHz upsampling/pasthru that was part of DVD-A. They just make it sound like its totally encrypted to cover their ass and keep manufacturers and copyright sycophants at bay. You'll get up to 7.1 PCM over 4x digital coax. Just make sure the HDMI 621 has its internal firmware configured and set to 8-channel output instead of 2 or 6-channel. 8-Channel is default, but if you buy a used one it may be set to 6-channel from someone using it with a G series or 568.2mm Meridian processor which are limited to direct 5.1 lossless input only that way, or matrixed 6.1/7.1 via that. Only their 861 supports the full 7.1 PCM input via proprietary MMHR ethernet connection. Good luck.
The Meridan processors will output digital coaxial without the MHR proprietary formatting. You can set it up to output standard digital format up to 96khz 24bit, in the configuration via a computer.
EQ APO plays well with multi-channel systems from what I've seen. That'll do delays and channel balancing and can EQ individual channels. Not sure how far being able to mix things will go. If you only run a 5.1 you can use the 2 spare channels as a temporary way to shuffle things around, likely will be a way to extract low-end from the main channels and add it to the sub.
This actually relates quite closely to a video on which I am currently working; adding post-DSP SPDIF outputs to AVRs. Perhaps it might nudge manufacturers in the right direction. Probably not! :P
Hi ! Thank you very much for your video !!!!! I am currently doing it on an old AVR (yamaha htr6030), I just did the two front channel, it works ! i'm waiting to receive the other I2s to spdif boards to do the other channels
You can do this a hole lot simpler and cheaper (considering cost of dacs) Option 1: get a good audio interface with quality DACs such as MOTU 8A Option 2: get a digital audio interface such as MOTU 8D (if you really want separate DACs - the MOTU 8A sabre DACs are good enough for studios so ...) Bonus: these units have an ethernet port with AVB/TSN and web interface management. The AVB/TSN standard allows you to move 128 channels in your house through a single Ethernet cable (need AVB/TSN switch for more than point to point connections).
Thanks 👍👌 for sure you could do with solar power and batter bank to lower costs of running power each night 🌙 In the Electronics Test Laboratory nothing was turned off at night apart from the lights because equipment is far better left on 24/7 365 days a week,
Nearly blew my head off but loved the video. Next step would be, adding AVR and speaker cable switches and compare this to "normal" setup. I'd love to hear that...😁
Loved the video and thanks for the time you put in to make it and thanks for the live stream where you hooked this up. Why was the last part of the video only on the left channel?
There is a Codec pack with pre-installed plugins that you can install with mpc-hc or many actually, search K-Lite Codec Pack. It will pre-setup the settings properly also, but Id have a look in MadVR's display settings and make sure they are set right. I used to manually install of of those but this saves me so much time. Is whatever player youre using exclusive mode and not windows mix? You can know if you're able to play another application at the same time. Exclusive you can not. Tidal has it in the audio settings. This could be a real money saver. Chad setup dude. Hope you're well.
@@hugevibez Yes but you can buy Dolby for your computer and it runs in the background and decodes when audio that is encoded is played I would imagine since you can use your headphones you can use external speakers or a DAC
Finished! A part of me is glad I don't have 20% of the equipment I'd need to do this. The other part of me really wants to hear this monstrosity. So I can start collecting parts for my own Frankenstein rig. Thanks Zeos for all the software fuckery, the hardware fuckery and the brain fuckery. Are you going to be getting the OSD Black S82 for review?
I'm running both my SVS subs and my passive Amphion monitors/amp separately via my UAD Apollo in a similar-ish fashion via the digital interface (created a low-cut for the mains via plug-in and a high-cut for the subs via App and need to downsample 192 khz 24 bits content as the Dac loses virtual channels at that rate) but this is on another level.🤔 I feel your pain, you could try to delay some signals via the buffer of the DACs.
Zeos, do you know that Atmos certified are required to send the 96KHz to the speakers aka supporting Hi Res audio. Like the Samsung soundbars with Hi Res support use WiFi 5GHz channels to stream the data encoded per the requirements. The issue can be interference like if you live in an apartment. Other solutions in the professional world use a similar set up as you with digital coax.
Yeah but everything supports 96k, that isn't a measure of quality of sound. I don't think you can find a dac that doesn't support 24/96 even the cheapest. Its all about the implementation and the signal origins.
If this thing did had an option to take S/PDIF input I'd want to use it. I don't want to use anything that uses the USB bus for audio as it tends to mess with the IO of my compute heavy loads I do. I can still play video and audio while the machine works, but I need a DAC that is either direct pci-E input or can take S/PDIF input. Any help as to what products or Z videos to look at would be helpful.
My concern with this is are you reliant on MPC-HC or are there other options available or in the works for your source to do the surround processing/decoding? Or would this work natively just using something like Plex (for example) as well?
I really want to find a way to get 5.1 from TV or optical and bring that into my computer. I have power studio monitors and surround monitoring happening. Just no way to decode the sources into my computer to go out through my interface. They should make an optical to 8 channel adat that decodes digital to digital 5.1 7.1
S/PDIF can be coaxial or fiber optic. It is not accurate to dlineate between the two in the way that you did. It is not true to say that s/pdif is coaxial and toslink is fiber optic. They are both s/pdif.
Are there any simpler solutions? For example I have an old analogue Technics surround receiver that only has RCA inputs. And wish to hook up my PS4 slim on that for Surround, and haven't found any good solutions. Most budget stuff only have terrible Center/Sub balance. Though I'd still want a PS5 in the future as well and that only has HDMI output.
Are the inputs discrete 5.1 (6 rca inputs)? If so there a surround processor on Amazon by Southsky for around $40. It works great on an old Yamaha 5.1 that I have in the den. It takes fiber optic in and sends 6 discrete channels to the amp.
So, about the acoustics of your basement. The ceiling being a plastic/sheet thing and the cement walls? even with a custom delay, wouldn't it still be less than optimal? not talking trash just a general observation.
Above that sheet is 10" of fiberglass insulation between wood lined cavities. So imagine the greatest absorption panels ever made.. As for the concrete. It doesn't give. It doesn't rattle and its rough surface helps with diffraction. The best sound rooms are made of poured concrete with sound panels on top. I just let the sides be open to disappear the 1st point reflections.
It's not the DA that makes it better it is the quality of the op amps on he way out you are hearing on the sub... Sleep... A new Channel Zeos no sleep all night projects...
@@lordjaashin that's good to know, i've been using VLC for video since forever, thank you! i'll try to switch, is MPC and MPV are the same program with different interfaces?
I mean laptop headphone amp/dac are notoriously shitty. So it could. But Foobar at 100% and windows at 100% just means no limiting is happening. The items at the back end need to be able to handle it.
I am sure this sounds amazing! This unit with some more refinement by miniDSP could be a game changer. (HDMI inputs, DSP, etc.) Even the most expensive video processor has garbage SINAD and DAC implementation compared to say, even a cheap Topping desktop DAC. Easy to hear between my desktop/studio monitor setup verses my Denon based home theater 5.2.4
A BIG problem with implementing something like this for home theater is the licensing costs of the video/sound codecs, sound processing, room correction. Everyone has their hands out and are driving up the costs. Audio Science reviews of 5 grand processors that have all the bells and whistles show this.
So for more than 8 channels, let's say, Atmos 7.2.4, you would need 2 computers playing the same file exactly at the same time with 1 miniDSP UDIO-8 on each :) Next upgrade?
Atmos is object based. You can't pull the extra channels from it digitally. Only when it's been decoded by a calibrated AVR for the specific room/speaker config.
wish someone would make a software solution that would let you plug in multiple usb dacs into a pc and use them for surround sound buy now you would think that cpus are fast enough.
I‘m glad that I’m not into home theatre because this is a freaking mess. It doesn’t have to be that messy I guess, normal people probably just buy a good surround processor for $5-10K
Normal people spend $350 on a decent Denon or Marantz, hook up 5 random speakers and a sub and are happy. Don't avoid surround sound just because you think its complex and expensive.
I am usually alone/centered on the screen and two Heresy's with subs will do a better job at reproducing center channel information then one much smaller speaker.
Can we get a tutorial of how to apply room correction EQ to this system. I understand your happy with the sound in your basement, but think of your less fortunate viewers Z.
So I'm a third of the way thru this and the huge thing I don't get is how to get the computer to decode and output the DTS/Dolby 7.1 audio track on the USB port. edit - Ok, 31:50 - Media Player Classic Home Cinema has the capability somehow. Finally I get it. I have a Plex server just use a Roku as the client - have always wondered how I would ever output the audio via something other than the HDMI cable if I used an HTPC. The BEAUTY of this, however, is now you're not tied to having to purchase/upgrade a really expensive receiver/processor when new HDMI or HDCP versions or even audio codecs come out. I still think you're slightly crazy for not using a center channel speaker b/c it still gives you a perfect center image even if you shift out of the sweet spot at all, not to mention should give you more output because moar drivers. edit 2 - Hmm, MPC HC is dead as of 2017. I will be curious when you give up the ghost on it.
@@ZReviews Ah, yes. Have you ever looked at Plex, Emby, etc? Or is it one of those things where you like what you've got so you just don't want to go down the rabbit hole of evaluating other options for fear of the time it will suck up? (because I get that).
Great! What if you use something likve the AVerMedia Extreme Cap UVC BV100 (or other HDMI capture card)? Do these capture suround sound properly to then be replayed back? Or would this break down immediately due to HDCP?
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AKM tried this exact setup, and the factory went up in flames.
Lol
Equalizer APO for Windows gives you the ability to manually set delays/filters/cut-off's/DSP corrections per channel
Hats off to you Z. The effort gone into this is tremendous and I am sure the manufacturers are watching and this video could prove to be a turning point at some time in the future. I know its a lot to ask, however we need more such videos. Brilliant.
Watch zeos buy the $900 DDRC-88D next so he can actually get all channel delay and room correction
What you want is a miniDSP DDRC-88D in the middle instead of the nanoDIGIs and get Dirac on all 8 channels.
IF ONLY THE COMPANY WOULD CONTACT ME.. OH DARN!
@@ZReviews hey miniDSP if you're reading this: I've been looking at your Dirac and Studio products for over a year now, maybe a review of the product would push me over the edge to actually buy it
Yeah from what I gather you could basically go from the UDIO-8 to the DDRC-88D and then to all the DACs. That way you can do all the EQ, room correction, etc. in the DDRC-88D and if you still want to have the front channel stuff with VU meters, etc. you can still throw in a nanoDigi just as the setup is atm.
just realized whenever zeos says because, he pronounces beKOSS.
He gets a box of three KPH301i every time he says it..
yeah, wonder if that's a regional thing
East coast
Congratulations Z, you finally built your dream setup. Nice.
Did not know MPC was still going on github, I appreciate the link!
Meridian makes them. The HDMI 621 and UHD 722 processor. You feed it the output of a UHD BD player over HDMI (that does the THD and DTS MA decoding) and get up to pure LPCM 7.1 over 4x Digital Coax outputs. It doesn't only work with their gear. What is specific to them is their exclusive 96kHz Upsampling or MHR which is encrypted.
Hello, thank you very much for your comment !!!!! , are you sure it works with SPDIF inputs of any dac ? They say that the four phono sockets are encrypted to Meridian High Resolution, Did you test it or someone else on the internet ? again thank you for your comment :)
@@martinjean5198 Yes I am sure, I have an HDMI 621 with a non Meridian processor and have used them in Meridian systems. I don't just say things out of my ass. I use one to give an Accuphase VX-700 digital lossless multi-ch input using its outboard DSP inputs. It will just be limited to 48kHz without Meridian's 96kHz upsampling/pasthru that was part of DVD-A. They just make it sound like its totally encrypted to cover their ass and keep manufacturers and copyright sycophants at bay. You'll get up to 7.1 PCM over 4x digital coax. Just make sure the HDMI 621 has its internal firmware configured and set to 8-channel output instead of 2 or 6-channel. 8-Channel is default, but if you buy a used one it may be set to 6-channel from someone using it with a G series or 568.2mm Meridian processor which are limited to direct 5.1 lossless input only that way, or matrixed 6.1/7.1 via that. Only their 861 supports the full 7.1 PCM input via proprietary MMHR ethernet connection. Good luck.
The Meridan processors will output digital coaxial without the MHR proprietary formatting. You can set it up to output standard digital format up to 96khz 24bit, in the configuration via a computer.
Another clean way to do this, the AES/EBU version with Adam S Series Monitors. AES In, DSP, DAC and Tri-Amp!
EQ APO plays well with multi-channel systems from what I've seen. That'll do delays and channel balancing and can EQ individual channels. Not sure how far being able to mix things will go. If you only run a 5.1 you can use the 2 spare channels as a temporary way to shuffle things around, likely will be a way to extract low-end from the main channels and add it to the sub.
8 woofers , 7 Swans, 4Jnogs, 2 DigiMinis and one mind numbing headache. How sublime...
Lol
You're welcome for stopping by. I enjoyed it!
Am I the only one that made it all the way through to the end and understood every bit of it 😂
I hope not.
I made it all the way through and understood it!
Now I want to buy everything and do it myself 😂😂😂
I'm still interested in how it processes DOLBY / THX etc...
I want to see the watch time analytics for this vid
As of Day 1, Average Viewing time is 14:21, which is like double the regular videos
I'm at 11+ minutes as of now. Will probably finish up later today
@@ZReviews you mean people don’t watch the whole thing?! Heathens!!
21:10 "Keeping it simple."
Good one.
This actually relates quite closely to a video on which I am currently working; adding post-DSP SPDIF outputs to AVRs. Perhaps it might nudge manufacturers in the right direction. Probably not! :P
Hi ! Thank you very much for your video !!!!! I am currently doing it on an old AVR (yamaha htr6030), I just did the two front channel, it works ! i'm waiting to receive the other I2s to spdif boards to do the other channels
@@martinjean5198 I'm glad that you found it helpful!
You can do this a hole lot simpler and cheaper (considering cost of dacs)
Option 1: get a good audio interface with quality DACs such as MOTU 8A
Option 2: get a digital audio interface such as MOTU 8D (if you really want separate DACs - the MOTU 8A sabre DACs are good enough for studios so ...)
Bonus: these units have an ethernet port with AVB/TSN and web interface management. The AVB/TSN standard allows you to move 128 channels in your house through a single Ethernet cable (need AVB/TSN switch for more than point to point connections).
I can not find 8a any other budget boxes?
windows has a mic-driven surround sound setup. That should adjust distances automatically...
The hell you say
Thanks 👍👌 for sure you could do with solar power and batter bank to lower costs of running power each night 🌙
In the Electronics Test Laboratory nothing was turned off at night apart from the lights because equipment is far better left on 24/7 365 days a week,
Nearly blew my head off but loved the video. Next step would be, adding AVR and speaker cable switches and compare this to "normal" setup. I'd love to hear that...😁
The King of Adapters
Loved the video and thanks for the time you put in to make it and thanks for the live stream where you hooked this up.
Why was the last part of the video only on the left channel?
Your welcome and ... What?
OH if I take the gopro off my head the stereo mics pick me up on the side
Holy complicated dream set up, good thing I get to witness you do it instead
There is a Codec pack with pre-installed plugins that you can install with mpc-hc or many actually, search K-Lite Codec Pack. It will pre-setup the settings properly also, but Id have a look in MadVR's display settings and make sure they are set right. I used to manually install of of those but this saves me so much time.
Is whatever player youre using exclusive mode and not windows mix? You can know if you're able to play another application at the same time. Exclusive you can not. Tidal has it in the audio settings.
This could be a real money saver. Chad setup dude. Hope you're well.
I’m listening on my Saturday morning drive to work ...it’s hypnotic and insane 🤣
warmer color tone is a better long-therm solution for your eyes health
I wish there was a way it could handle Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, then I'd jump in and set it up too.
i think you can get your computer to decode before you send to this. would have to pay for it though
I think they talked about this on the jriver forums, and the devs said it's impossible because 3d audio formats require positional processing iirc.
@@hugevibez Yes but you can buy Dolby for your computer and it runs in the background and decodes when audio that is encoded is played I would imagine since you can use your headphones you can use external speakers or a DAC
@@redleather420 That's for headphones, you can't get individual channel outs.
It would be perfect if it had an earc in, then you could get a tv to decode it and pass it through.
It took me 25 minutes to notice that there was a picture of Danny DeVito on the wall
Im so glad you explained the custom channel mapping on Media Player Classic now I can hear the dialog finally
It should be simple but sometimes it isn't
You should really check out the miniDSP flex ... it does balanced now =D
Finished! A part of me is glad I don't have 20% of the equipment I'd need to do this. The other part of me really wants to hear this monstrosity. So I can start collecting parts for my own Frankenstein rig.
Thanks Zeos for all the software fuckery, the hardware fuckery and the brain fuckery.
Are you going to be getting the OSD Black S82 for review?
I need a cigarette and a nap after this.
So this and 3 sets of D1090s fed with coax. Sounds good to me
I think for 50k a month you should build a four HDMI input modular receiver based on this set up.
I'm running both my SVS subs and my passive Amphion monitors/amp separately via my UAD Apollo in a similar-ish fashion via the digital interface (created a low-cut for the mains via plug-in and a high-cut for the subs via App and need to downsample 192 khz 24 bits content as the Dac loses virtual channels at that rate) but this is on another level.🤔 I feel your pain, you could try to delay some signals via the buffer of the DACs.
DDRC-88D would give you Dirac room correction and a volume control.
if only nanodigi would accept 7.1 input.... dream device
Please please please do the 8 Subwoofer set up, this needs a series for the most outrageous HT setup using the best of everything you have.
You must be a nice person in real life. That cat loves you and you can't fool animals!!
My Robot Cat that I use to overthrow Hostile governments. Yes she great.
Vrey good review! What is the make and model of your 2 VU meters?
Adding the delay, eq and features you mention will cause the price to be higher for the udio. They will need to put a dsp in it for each o/p no?
Zeos, do you know that Atmos certified are required to send the 96KHz to the speakers aka supporting Hi Res audio.
Like the Samsung soundbars with Hi Res support use WiFi 5GHz channels to stream the data encoded per the requirements.
The issue can be interference like if you live in an apartment. Other solutions in the professional world use a similar set up as you with digital coax.
Yeah but everything supports 96k, that isn't a measure of quality of sound. I don't think you can find a dac that doesn't support 24/96 even the cheapest. Its all about the implementation and the signal origins.
If this thing did had an option to take S/PDIF input I'd want to use it. I don't want to use anything that uses the USB bus for audio as it tends to mess with the IO of my compute heavy loads I do. I can still play video and audio while the machine works, but I need a DAC that is either direct pci-E input or can take S/PDIF input. Any help as to what products or Z videos to look at would be helpful.
My concern with this is are you reliant on MPC-HC or are there other options available or in the works for your source to do the surround processing/decoding? Or would this work natively just using something like Plex (for example) as well?
Be fascinated to get a @youthman perspective on this full digital set up 🤔
He'd probably be sold at 8 subwoofers
I really want to find a way to get 5.1 from TV or optical and bring that into my computer. I have power studio monitors and surround monitoring happening. Just no way to decode the sources into my computer to go out through my interface. They should make an optical to 8 channel adat that decodes digital to digital 5.1 7.1
Absolutely great system!!
I am 100% sold. Where is the Amazon link to those kitchen lights?
S/PDIF can be coaxial or fiber optic.
It is not accurate to dlineate between the two in the way that you did. It is not true to say that s/pdif is coaxial and toslink is fiber optic. They are both s/pdif.
8 way Surround sound bass! 😮
Are there any simpler solutions? For example I have an old analogue Technics surround receiver that only has RCA inputs. And wish to hook up my PS4 slim on that for Surround, and haven't found any good solutions. Most budget stuff only have terrible Center/Sub balance. Though I'd still want a PS5 in the future as well and that only has HDMI output.
Are the inputs discrete 5.1 (6 rca inputs)? If so there a surround processor on Amazon by Southsky for around $40. It works great on an old Yamaha 5.1 that I have in the den. It takes fiber optic in and sends 6 discrete channels to the amp.
@@harrybaque5502 Thx I'll look into it.
any chance reviewing the Audio Technica at-BHA100 soon?
Sheesh that dark elf 🥵🥵🥵
Couldn't you use the miniDSP 4x10 HD to set the delays?
8:02 that's the basement of a clinically insane man
IS that the sewer or freshwater right above the rack?
What about room correction? This solution with all Digital seems really sweet, but I don't have a perfect room and need roon correction ;)
So, about the acoustics of your basement. The ceiling being a plastic/sheet thing and the cement walls? even with a custom delay, wouldn't it still be less than optimal? not talking trash just a general observation.
Above that sheet is 10" of fiberglass insulation between wood lined cavities. So imagine the greatest absorption panels ever made.. As for the concrete. It doesn't give. It doesn't rattle and its rough surface helps with diffraction. The best sound rooms are made of poured concrete with sound panels on top. I just let the sides be open to disappear the 1st point reflections.
@@ZReviews awesome man, thanks for the reply. Love the vids. Got some hd 800s and the hdv 800 amp due to your videos. Keep up the bad ass work.
This is mental.
Yo meaby u will make like a Portable bluetooth speaker review?
or just use Aune X8 with miniDSP AES :)))
not sure about compatibility, but 'Equalizer APO' could possibly solve the issue of adding-delays and add some dsp functions
It's not the DA that makes it better it is the quality of the op amps on he way out you are hearing on the sub... Sleep... A new Channel Zeos no sleep all night projects...
my one question in can you use this with nvidia sheilds usb audio output
Damm they recently stopped offering mini dsp productw
So in this set up are all the speakers being run full range?
Correct
Could you use a car audio dsp I have a expensive 12 channel with sub out audio dsp
Is there a reason why you use MPC over VLC or it's just a preference? a video about it could be interesting if you haven't yet!
MPC and MPV player has superior playback than VLC. VLC sacrifices quality, especially with video, for speed.
@@lordjaashin that's good to know, i've been using VLC for video since forever, thank you! i'll try to switch, is MPC and MPV are the same program with different interfaces?
I just prefer the way MPC functions. I have run VLC for strange formats i just can't get into it. The usability of MPC has always matched my desires.
@@ZReviews i see, thank you!
MPC black edition is where it's at
Having foobar volume and windows volume maxed, dont you risk the computer output to distort the sound? Could it happen with 3.5 mm out from a laptop?
I mean laptop headphone amp/dac are notoriously shitty. So it could. But Foobar at 100% and windows at 100% just means no limiting is happening. The items at the back end need to be able to handle it.
I am sure this sounds amazing! This unit with some more refinement by miniDSP could be a game changer. (HDMI inputs, DSP, etc.) Even the most expensive video processor has garbage SINAD and DAC implementation compared to say, even a cheap Topping desktop DAC. Easy to hear between my desktop/studio monitor setup verses my Denon based home theater 5.2.4
A BIG problem with implementing something like this for home theater is the licensing costs of the video/sound codecs, sound processing, room correction. Everyone has their hands out and are driving up the costs. Audio Science reviews of 5 grand processors that have all the bells and whistles show this.
Cries in third world poverty
I gotta admit I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but can't you just use Eq APO to do room correction and correct for the spacing and such?
It has been suggested here. I will need to try. I wasn't sure it could do more then 2 channels.
So for more than 8 channels, let's say, Atmos 7.2.4, you would need 2 computers playing the same file exactly at the same time with 1 miniDSP UDIO-8 on each :) Next upgrade?
Atmos is object based. You can't pull the extra channels from it digitally. Only when it's been decoded by a calibrated AVR for the specific room/speaker config.
wish someone would make a software solution that would let you plug in multiple usb dacs into a pc and use them for surround sound buy now you would think that cpus are fast enough.
I can not find the remote to my 7 ch. Onkyo, life sucks. 'OH, her it is', life is good. Best, D.
I'll just stick to an AVR lol. Interesting setup though.
Honestly my advice is stick to an AVR, this video is a path to many abilities some consider to be un-natural.
VR gaming, especially sim racing, do a really good job of taking advantage of surround sound.
VR still uses stereo headphones they just do a good job with virtualization of sound placement.
Xeos fix the heater and background hum!
You bought the wrong rme peoduct, you should have gotten the Digiface USB instead, it has usb in and 4 optical out
I‘m glad that I’m not into home theatre because this is a freaking mess.
It doesn’t have to be that messy I guess, normal people probably just buy a good surround processor for $5-10K
Normal people spend $350 on a decent Denon or Marantz, hook up 5 random speakers and a sub and are happy. Don't avoid surround sound just because you think its complex and expensive.
@@ZReviews I don’t really have a use for surround since I only watch stuff that’s in stereo only and I only have 5m^2 / 50 sq ft to work with.
so you could say you were having a "Klipsching issue"
Why don’t you run a center channel?
I am usually alone/centered on the screen and two Heresy's with subs will do a better job at reproducing center channel information then one much smaller speaker.
I might have to do this 😂
Can we get a tutorial of how to apply room correction EQ to this system.
I understand your happy with the sound in your basement, but think of your less fortunate viewers Z.
I will be looking into it. Via Equilizer APO and or that $900 unit minidsp sells.
@@ZReviews Cool, I am a big believer in Room correction, and really think it should be covered more often.
I would love to see this. But that bouncing camera produces headache.
I've been looking into this exact thing, using a multi channel outputs from a pc into the Okto Dac8 instead of using a processor.
This ^^^. Okto Research DAC8 Pro with EQ APO or with a DDRC-88D with Dirac and a IOTAVX AVXP1 or powered speakers. That's what I'm going for.
Good Chewbers
Nice kitchen, well done.
Much love from Indonesia, ♥♥♥♥♥
I wonder how many of those cabinets are empty.....
they all filled with geshelli dacs
Interesting, if you don't need hdmi switching.
Forget HDMI switching.. You can't have anything but a PC or MAC connected because it requires that be the main component.
In my wildest
So I'm a third of the way thru this and the huge thing I don't get is how to get the computer to decode and output the DTS/Dolby 7.1 audio track on the USB port.
edit - Ok, 31:50 - Media Player Classic Home Cinema has the capability somehow. Finally I get it. I have a Plex server just use a Roku as the client - have always wondered how I would ever output the audio via something other than the HDMI cable if I used an HTPC. The BEAUTY of this, however, is now you're not tied to having to purchase/upgrade a really expensive receiver/processor when new HDMI or HDCP versions or even audio codecs come out.
I still think you're slightly crazy for not using a center channel speaker b/c it still gives you a perfect center image even if you shift out of the sweet spot at all, not to mention should give you more output because moar drivers.
edit 2 - Hmm, MPC HC is dead as of 2017. I will be curious when you give up the ghost on it.
i link to the new branch of MPC, someone picked up the torch and updates regularly.
@@ZReviews Ah, yes. Have you ever looked at Plex, Emby, etc? Or is it one of those things where you like what you've got so you just don't want to go down the rabbit hole of evaluating other options for fear of the time it will suck up? (because I get that).
sink for washing sound
Great!
What if you use something likve the AVerMedia Extreme Cap UVC BV100 (or other HDMI capture card)? Do these capture suround sound properly to then be replayed back? Or would this break down immediately due to HDCP?
I doubt you will get a usable signal in surround sound.
What did you say?
Cant you just use 4x cheap soundcards with toslink out? This would total to 60 usd or so.
Im not sure Windows would recognize that as a 7.1 since it is multiple devices. There might be away to combine them in software but I don't know it.
@@ZReviews I BELIEVE you could try to assign diffrent tracks to diffrent output devices in Reaper or other DAW. Will let you know if I learn anything.
@@ZReviews Dante virtual soundcard?