I have seen the movie, more than once and read the book which until this presentation gave me the clearest understanding of this battle. This presentation clears up much of the questions in my mind along with visually seeing the action. Thank you Chuck Teague.
Have you read "The Gettysburg Campaign: A Study in Command" by Edwin B. Coddington? It's one of the best books I've found on the leadup, battle, and aftermath of the Gettysburg Campaign
And, THIS IS what I want to do..."Walk the grounds, let alone reading a well written, documentary book or two about the event. This location is a pinnacle in this place. Sure was nice to see the comments and question or two directed to Ranger Chuck. Being a citizen by birth and residency of the U.S.A. - I'm proud of these guys. Thanks, Ranger Chuck!
I'm sorry I've only just now found this channel, and these great videos. Excellent work, and cheers to all the Rangers who took part. I was born in Pennsylvania, and I guess that makes me a Yankee. However, no one can question the valor or bravery on either side in this battle, and so many other. I have walked this entire battlefield once, and I'd like to do it again.
This goomer guessed he is a yankee. Hell, l know for a fact that he is a yankee. And iffen he came down South and stayed,that would make him a damn yankee! Ha ha. DEO VINDICE!!!
From Lincoln's Gettysburg Address: ..... we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract.
Joshua L. Chamberlain survived this battle to become a major general, governor of Maine, and president of Bowdoin College but he received severe wounds before and after this battle and they caused him problems until his death in 1914 at the age of 85. When I was in the Army most brigades were commanded by colonels.
1998 reenactment, we sneaked into the park early and saw Devil's Den and Little Round. Top at sunrise. 3 days of reenacting each days battles.28th Massachusetts Infantry
Not only thanks to Mr. Teague, thanks to that gentleman at the end who asks the questions and who served as a leader in Vietnam in the Mid-Sixties>OH, how i would love to talk to EITHER of them for hours!!!!!
Watching this reminds me of the lyrics of the Sabaton song Price of a Mile. "Thousands of feet march to the beat, it's an army on the march. Long way from home, paying the price in young men's lives."
My gt grandfather fought at Little Round Top. He was part of a company of German speaking soldiers from Philadelphia. His name was John Reese. They arrived during the second day of the battle. He rose to the rank of Captain during the Civil War. One time I held his war rifle. It was so heavy! Really heavy! What struck me when I visited Little Round Top was the amount of red rust all over the hill. The rust is from the oxidation of the bullets and metal over the past 150 years. Can you just imagine all the smoke during the firing? It must have been very difficult to see clearly.
@@jblooz2371 My great grandfather's brothers-in-laws and nephews were in the 4th Texas lnfantry Co.K going up LRT also. Great Grampa Shelton fought the bluebellies in Arkansas & Louisiana, helping turn Gen. "Commissary" Banks around three miles South of Mansfield,La. in the Red River Campaign of '64.15 Texas lnfantry Co.F Put the skewer in 'em, as ol' Gen. Forrest would of said. DEO VINDICE Don't care fer modern day yankees ta tell the truth, smart-alecky sumbitches!
He left out parts of the battle, like company B emerging from the stone wall across from 20th Maine's position during the charge, but still a very good presentation. Oate's guys took fire from 3 directions.
+nrred The Rebs would have needed scaling ladders to get up parts of the "saddle" between Big and Little Round Top... it's unbelievable. It would take modern Army Rangers to negotiate an obstacle like that when under fire. I'm not kidding you. Props to the Rebs, they really wanted that hill....
Wow!!! I like so many of the Rangers but Chuck REALLY does a good job...he keeps to the story and doesn't go off in the weeds. He's VERY clear. Stays focused He doesn't treat this as a comedy hour. Watch his talk "The Confounding of Dan Sickles" VERY INFORMATIVE
little round top was a very important battle because the owner of LRT had a great overview of the battle. this information is important. remember back then nobody had cell phones, etc
Nitric Warrior, a solid case can be made that in reality Vicksburg was more important to the eventual outcome. Texas was basically out of the war following that event. Gettysburg gets more publicity for many reasons. Ended Lee's Northern invasion. Took place in the Eastern theater of operations. Lee never again had the initiative. However, a case can be made that Antietam was actually more important than both. It allowed Lincoln to issue Emancipation Proclamation which made it officially a war about slavery. France was ready to enter the war on the Southern side. They were waiting for England. When it became a war about slavery England could not support the South.
Mishawaka Post, the Civil War period army brigade was, when at full strength, commanded by a Brigadier General! Hence the title, "Brigadier" General. Regiments were generally commanded by a Lt. Colonel. A Northern Brigade generally contained 3 - 4 regiments of 1,000 men each. I suspect when you were in the army most soldiers did not carry a muzzle loading rifled musket either.
Texas accents vary depending o which part of the state you're from, whether you're from the city or the country. I had a uncle from Walnut Springs Texas that sounded a lot like Gene Hackman telling the joke about the cow and the milk in Bonnie and Clyde.
Der Volksfreund because the actual front of the hill was to steep, rocky and exposed. Instead of going head on in front they were ordered to move around the flanks of the Union army on the other side of the hill. That's why in the movie Chamberlain is telling his commanders that they aren't at the "Front Door".
The owner of the hill had recently cut down the woods on the western (front as the rebels attacked) side to make charcoal for the two nearby iron works. As stated the rear side and the saddle between the two Round Tops remained heavily wooded.
The union was with God. Romans chapter 13 makes it clear, all revolution and servile insurrection is wrong. It was wrong for the slave owning- tax evading oligarchs to take up gun against Britain as well as the confederacy firing on ft. Sumter.
It's petty but I'm always irked at people who think because THEY pronounce their family name a certain way, EVERYBODY pronounces it the same way. Case in point: South of Macon GA lies Houston County, pronounced HOWstun not HEWstun as in Texas. I knew a Huger family who pronounced their name Hugh-GER, not U-gee or Hu-gee like the general. So probably there're plenty of families pronouncing their name HAZZlet, not HAZElet. (Rant ended; just a pet pieve as my family name is also capable of different pronunciations.)
Except Gettysburg was not the end. In the following year more than 100000 casualties were suffered by both sides, including Chickamaugua, Chattanooga, and the Overland Campaign; etc. Just killin' and chillin '. Read 'Soldiers and Ghosts' 'How Josh Simmons Spent His Summer, By Phil Gutierrez: Me!
Gary Gallagher states over and over again that Gettysburg was only considered the turning point in retrospect; Lincoln himself in his unsent letter to Meade after Lee's return to Virginia that his (Meade's) failure would prolong the war indefinitely.
Hood...Great warrior of the Civil War? I think not!! Backstabs Johnston to take command of AoT, loses Atlanta and then squanders the army attacking Franklin and Nashville. All the while claiming that the AoT men were afraid to fight... A wind-up toy could accomplish the same.
He was a good and brave brigadier and division commander, but you're right, as an army commander... well, the men of the AoT retreating from Nashville said it best, as they sang to the tune of Yellow Rose of Texas: "You can brag about your Beauregard and praise your General Lee, but the gallant Hood of Texas played hell in Tennessee." It may be apocryphal, but I've read that when Sherman heard that Hood had taken over in Atlanta, he gave a toast and told him staff, "boys, this'll all be over in a month now."
@@jsgehrke Does he support or contradict most of the contemporary reports? I think I've listened to it; at one point he (or someone else) says Hood didn't use narcotics and was never stoned especially at Franklin while all contemporary reports contradict the speaker (whoever it was.)
Speaking the quotes dramatically is a nice touch, just don't pass out in the process. For a National Park Ranger to be so out of shape is embarrassing.
While I appreciate the rangers knowledge of the battle he needs to lighten up on the phony southern accent and theatrics while reciting southern dialogue. Notice while reciting any Northern dialogue he does not use any accent.
+Scott Burger Teague is from PA. Not sure how you fake a Yankee accent if you are from Pennsylvania? However overdone Southern theatrics are part of the presentation. Tourists from all over the world visit the sacred ground and NPS Rangers are under unofficial pressure to provide said tourists with some ... artistic flavor. Work for ya?
Scott Burger ova dun? As a direct descendant of the Boone family : not ova dun attol Scott. He did/does a great job. Pointless observation you add here.
I kind of don't like the fact that Gettysburg gets to much credit, I mean the south lost big deal. It didn't have a big impact on the war as people see it. If anything Vicksburg should get more credit but I guess the sheer numbers of Gettysburg kind of overweighed strategic importance of Vicksburg.
+NItricWarrior it rendered the north no longer a feasible objective for the south. a ceasefire would NOT be quickened in favor of the south because of this battle
It was the bloodiest battle of the civil war. It ensured Europe did not ally with the south. It was the largest the Army of Northern ever became. It took away the view that rebels were superior fighters than northern soldiers (held by the south). I am not sure, but it may have been the last significant offensive battle of Lee.
Just so you know this battle was fought because if Lee pushed any farther he would have reached Washington and possibly ended the war and won it for the south. Literally stopping him stopped the south from ever having the ability to attack the north.
Well lets say by some miracle Lee won, then what. He would have fought and lost so many men just to hold a central pennsylvanian town. He would have to recuperate and lick his wounds. Meanwhile the full might of the Union army would have beared down on him and surrounded him. Also keep in mind Lee was in enemy territory with little knowledge of the land or people. Either way he was doomed from the moment he set foot in PA.
Strategically, Vicksburg was probably more important. That ensured the MS River was under Union control and the South was being strangled. But, Gettysburg did have a big impact - it was a gamble to destroy northern morale ahead of the 1864 election. There was a real possibility of a N. Democrat winning the election and suing for peace. I think by this point in time, it was unlikely that European powers would intervene (especially with the emancipation proclamation now in the open). Winning a battle on northern soil, potentially destroying a Union Corps or two, though? Would have wrecked Lincoln's reelection hopes, especially if Harrisburg or Philadelphia had come under attack and been captured!
Ranger Chuck?? This is half Your Country in rebellion, Still you du not respectfully Call them . Confederate forces. I Do not understand this. Please entitle them Confederates not Rebels. Respect Your countrys history sir.
Jon Morten Skjetne Olsen Hold on, you've just said that they were 'in rebellion' ??! so they're only rebels when it's you that's describing them, yes? Shit for brains.
James Crowe, tell us please which part of the U.S. Constitution grants the right to secede? At the time of secession the State's voting to do so, which was generally conducted in a very un democratic manner, had neither a "federal" government nor a Constitution! Lincoln did NOT "invade" Charleston! He did advise South Carolina leaders of his intent to send supplies to Fort Sumter. An attempt that was resisted by firing upon the supply ship. Lincoln's position was very simple. Secession was not an option and he would not recognize the right to do so or the reality of the Southern States actions. While many reasons led to secession (future of slavery, Congressional power, economic differences, States Rights, etc.) it was in fact as much a rebellion as the 13 colonies destroying property and taking up arms against British authority.
I have seen the movie, more than once and read the book which until this presentation gave me the clearest understanding of this battle. This presentation clears up much of the questions in my mind along with visually seeing the action. Thank you Chuck Teague.
Have you read "The Gettysburg Campaign: A Study in Command" by Edwin B. Coddington? It's one of the best books I've found on the leadup, battle, and aftermath of the Gettysburg Campaign
I like the care and importance Ranger Teague stresses in getting your bearings to where one is on the battlefield in relation to everything else.
I love this guides enthusiasm when he's saying the accounts of the soldiers
yeah in his other videos i crack up when he dramatically reads the eloquent words of the men
He does quite well with detailed narration. Plus, the scenery's gorgeous
I've been on Little Round Top. It's an incredibly amazing view from its summit
Great job by this Ranger! He had me hanging on his every word
And, THIS IS what I want to do..."Walk the grounds, let alone reading a well written, documentary book or two about the event. This location is a pinnacle in this place.
Sure was nice to see the comments and question or two directed to Ranger Chuck. Being a citizen by birth and residency of the U.S.A. - I'm proud of these guys.
Thanks, Ranger Chuck!
Excellent presentation by the Ranger. His explanation of the importance of the ground added a lot to my understanding.
I'm sorry I've only just now found this channel, and these great videos. Excellent work, and cheers to all the Rangers who took part. I was born in Pennsylvania, and I guess that makes me a Yankee. However, no one can question the valor or bravery on either side in this battle, and so many other. I have walked this entire battlefield once, and I'd like to do it again.
This goomer guessed he is a yankee.
Hell, l know for a fact that he is a yankee.
And iffen he came down South and stayed,that would make him a damn yankee! Ha ha.
DEO VINDICE!!!
Chuck is very good at his job,,,,very enjoyable...
From Lincoln's Gettysburg Address:
..... we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract.
Thank you Chuck Teague. You bring this stuff to live. Thanks for the post GettysburgNPS.
This guide is just fantastic. Well done sir.
What an honour to be keeping one of the greatest moments in your nations history alive
This was really good!
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They are national treasures just like the battle fields they tour. Everyone of them are awesome and chuck is the best of them all
Brilliant presentation, so informative and detailed. 10/10.
Joshua L. Chamberlain survived this battle to become a major general, governor of Maine, and president of Bowdoin College but he received severe wounds before and after this battle and they caused him problems until his death in 1914 at the age of 85.
When I was in the Army most brigades were commanded by colonels.
I think that promotion to Major General occurred on his "death bed" after he received "mortal" wounds in a battle later in the war.
The interpretations of the Ranger are awesome!
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Excellent presentation. Plain and simple.
Very cool and interesting video. Greetings from Austria.
1998 reenactment, we sneaked into the park early and saw Devil's Den and Little Round. Top at sunrise. 3 days of reenacting each days battles.28th Massachusetts Infantry
Quite an experience, 40,000 military, full day Pickett's Charge 15,000 Confederate, attacked Union lines 2 miles long.
we portrayed 140 NY in Little Round Top battle.
There is a hidden monument to the second US Sharpshooters and Company B 20th Maine in the woods .
Not only thanks to Mr. Teague, thanks to that gentleman at the end who asks the questions and who served as a leader in Vietnam in the Mid-Sixties>OH, how i would love to talk to EITHER of them for hours!!!!!
Every American should come to Little Round Top. To me, it's like coming to church.
I like this gentleman a lot
Just found this site fantastic
48:10 Cracked up a bit because it was a lady who looked like a "gentleman" from a distance
Watching this reminds me of the lyrics of the Sabaton song Price of a Mile. "Thousands of feet march to the beat, it's an army on the march. Long way from home, paying the price in young men's lives."
My gt grandfather fought at Little Round Top. He was part of a company of German speaking soldiers from Philadelphia. His name was John Reese. They arrived during the second day of the battle. He rose to the rank of Captain during the Civil War. One time I held his war rifle. It was so heavy! Really heavy! What struck me when I visited Little Round Top was the amount of red rust all over the hill. The rust is from the oxidation of the bullets and metal over the past 150 years. Can you just imagine all the smoke during the firing? It must have been very difficult to see clearly.
My GGGrandfather assaulted Devils Den and Little Round Top. 48th Alabama.
@@jblooz2371 My great grandfather's brothers-in-laws and nephews were in the 4th Texas lnfantry Co.K going up LRT also.
Great Grampa Shelton fought the bluebellies in Arkansas & Louisiana, helping turn Gen. "Commissary" Banks around three miles South of Mansfield,La. in the Red River Campaign of '64.15 Texas lnfantry Co.F
Put the skewer in 'em, as ol' Gen. Forrest would of said. DEO VINDICE
Don't care fer modern day yankees ta tell the truth, smart-alecky sumbitches!
I have always wondered if that rust is also the oxidized iron from all the blood.
He’s probably the most fluid guide I’ve ever seen. It’s like it’s pre recorded and he hit play lol
Amazing!
He left out parts of the battle, like company B emerging from the stone wall across from 20th Maine's position during the charge, but still a very good presentation. Oate's guys took fire from 3 directions.
I'm pleased to see that Ranger Teague patronizes local businesses in Gettysburg...specifically General Pickett's Buffet.
Are many of the rock walls in the battlefield original or were they built in the reconstruction of the battlefield?
original
nrred You can compare photographs and see the original rocks in the old photos. Some of them are a little more worn down than they were then.
Pretty cool that they're still there though-especially the ones on LRT at the 20th Maine charge.
+nrred The Rebs would have needed scaling ladders to get up parts of the "saddle" between Big and Little Round Top... it's unbelievable. It would take modern Army Rangers to negotiate an obstacle like that when under fire. I'm not kidding you. Props to the Rebs, they really wanted that hill....
Stone walks mostly. Fences obviously not
Wow!!! I like so many of the Rangers but Chuck REALLY does a good job...he keeps to the story and doesn't go off in the weeds.
He's VERY clear. Stays focused
He doesn't treat this as a comedy hour.
Watch his talk "The Confounding of Dan Sickles" VERY INFORMATIVE
"comedy hour"? you mean Ranger Matt.....
This ranger is wonderful but Ranger Matt is just as good if not better. He desnt treat anything like "comedy hour". SMH.
little round top was a very important battle because the owner of LRT had a great overview of the battle. this information is important. remember back then nobody had cell phones, etc
Nitric Warrior, a solid case can be made that in reality Vicksburg was more important to the eventual outcome. Texas was basically out of the war following that event. Gettysburg gets more publicity for many reasons. Ended Lee's Northern invasion. Took place in the Eastern theater of operations. Lee never again had the initiative. However, a case can be made that Antietam was actually more important than both. It allowed Lincoln to issue Emancipation Proclamation which made it officially a war about slavery. France was ready to enter the war on the Southern side. They were waiting for England. When it became a war about slavery England could not support the South.
Good point..antieta. was the moral turning point
Mishawaka Post, the Civil War period army brigade was, when at full strength, commanded by a Brigadier General! Hence the title, "Brigadier" General. Regiments were generally commanded by a Lt. Colonel. A Northern Brigade generally contained 3 - 4 regiments of 1,000 men each. I suspect when you were in the army most soldiers did not carry a muzzle loading rifled musket either.
Texas accents vary depending o which part of the state you're from, whether you're from the city or the country. I had a uncle from Walnut Springs Texas that sounded a lot like Gene Hackman telling the joke about the cow and the milk in Bonnie and Clyde.
Why is there a forest on little round top in the movie "Gettysburg" (1993)??
Der Volksfreund
because the actual front of the hill was to steep, rocky and exposed. Instead of going head on in front they were ordered to move around the flanks of the Union army on the other side of the hill. That's why in the movie Chamberlain is telling his commanders that they aren't at the "Front Door".
Because in the movie the focus is on the 20th Maine which was fighting on the other side of the hill which is covered with trees.
The owner of the hill had recently cut down the woods on the western (front as the rebels attacked) side to make charcoal for the two nearby iron works. As stated the rear side and the saddle between the two Round Tops remained heavily wooded.
God was finally with the union!
The union was with God. Romans chapter 13 makes it clear, all revolution and servile insurrection is wrong. It was wrong for the slave owning- tax evading oligarchs to take up gun against Britain as well as the confederacy firing on ft. Sumter.
@@stephensdygert7600 Where are you from?
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It's petty but I'm always irked at people who think because THEY pronounce their family name a certain way, EVERYBODY pronounces it the same way. Case in point: South of Macon GA lies Houston County, pronounced HOWstun not HEWstun as in Texas. I knew a Huger family who pronounced their name Hugh-GER, not U-gee or Hu-gee like the general. So probably there're plenty of families pronouncing their name HAZZlet, not HAZElet. (Rant ended; just a pet pieve as my family name is also capable of different pronunciations.)
If John belle Hood bumped into me and spilled my coffee ..I'd tell him I'm sorry
Except Gettysburg was not the end. In the following year more than 100000 casualties were suffered by both sides, including Chickamaugua, Chattanooga, and the Overland Campaign; etc. Just killin' and chillin '. Read 'Soldiers and Ghosts' 'How Josh Simmons Spent His Summer, By Phil Gutierrez: Me!
Gary Gallagher states over and over again that Gettysburg was only considered the turning point in retrospect; Lincoln himself in his unsent letter to Meade after Lee's return to Virginia that his (Meade's) failure would prolong the war indefinitely.
Hood...Great warrior of the Civil War? I think not!! Backstabs Johnston to take command of AoT, loses Atlanta and then squanders the army attacking Franklin and Nashville. All the while claiming that the AoT men were afraid to fight... A wind-up toy could accomplish the same.
He was a good and brave brigadier and division commander, but you're right, as an army commander... well, the men of the AoT retreating from Nashville said it best, as they sang to the tune of Yellow Rose of Texas: "You can brag about your Beauregard and praise your General Lee, but the gallant Hood of Texas played hell in Tennessee." It may be apocryphal, but I've read that when Sherman heard that Hood had taken over in Atlanta, he gave a toast and told him staff, "boys, this'll all be over in a month now."
You know: One of his remote ancestors has done a fairly credible rehabilitation at a lecture in Franklin, Tennessee. You can find it on TH-cam.
@@jsgehrke You mean descendant, one of his ancestors would have been a person who was born before of Hood's birth!
DEO VINDICE !!!
Cary West Thank you. Yes.
@@jsgehrke Does he support or contradict most of the contemporary reports? I think I've listened to it; at one point he (or someone else) says Hood didn't use narcotics and was never stoned especially at Franklin while all contemporary reports contradict the speaker (whoever it was.)
Real estate. Dont pay for it twice
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Always one guy who won’t stfu
Speaking the quotes dramatically is a nice touch, just don't pass out in the process. For a National Park Ranger to be so out of shape is embarrassing.
Your clearly dumber than whaleshit...
Maybe you can do better?? @video game videos.. lmao! Your probably a fatty like your mom and dad anyway...
It is a legit concern...but he continued n persevered!
C'mon now, be nice. Don't be judging him or making fun of him cuz he's not thin or whatever. Lol jeez.
C'mon now, be nice. Don't be judging him or making fun of him cuz he's not thin or whatever. Lol jeez.
1313 dhey were wacked ha ha ha...bivouacked
While I appreciate the rangers knowledge of the battle he needs to lighten up on the phony southern accent and theatrics while reciting southern dialogue. Notice while reciting any Northern dialogue he does not use any accent.
+Scott Burger Teague is from PA. Not sure how you fake a Yankee accent if you are from Pennsylvania? However overdone Southern theatrics are part of the presentation. Tourists from all over the world visit the sacred ground and NPS Rangers are under unofficial pressure to provide said tourists with some ... artistic flavor. Work for ya?
Scott Burger ova dun? As a direct descendant of the Boone family : not ova dun attol Scott. He did/does a great job. Pointless observation you add here.
Well at least he didn't try a Mississippi acent also telling the kid you can't sit on the rock. Was wrong. Didn't like the rebel yell either
Adding the accent entertains the tourists adds humor. Kids in tours are usually out of control creeps.
I kind of don't like the fact that Gettysburg gets to much credit, I mean the south lost big deal. It didn't have a big impact on the war as people see it. If anything Vicksburg should get more credit but I guess the sheer numbers of Gettysburg kind of overweighed strategic importance of Vicksburg.
+NItricWarrior it rendered the north no longer a feasible objective for the south. a ceasefire would NOT be quickened in favor of the south because of this battle
It was the bloodiest battle of the civil war. It ensured Europe did not ally with the south. It was the largest the Army of Northern ever became. It took away the view that rebels were superior fighters than northern soldiers (held by the south). I am not sure, but it may have been the last significant offensive battle of Lee.
Just so you know this battle was fought because if Lee pushed any farther he would have reached Washington and possibly ended the war and won it for the south. Literally stopping him stopped the south from ever having the ability to attack the north.
Well lets say by some miracle Lee won, then what. He would have fought and lost so many men just to hold a central pennsylvanian town. He would have to recuperate and lick his wounds. Meanwhile the full might of the Union army would have beared down on him and surrounded him. Also keep in mind Lee was in enemy territory with little knowledge of the land or people. Either way he was doomed from the moment he set foot in PA.
Strategically, Vicksburg was probably more important. That ensured the MS River was under Union control and the South was being strangled. But, Gettysburg did have a big impact - it was a gamble to destroy northern morale ahead of the 1864 election. There was a real possibility of a N. Democrat winning the election and suing for peace. I think by this point in time, it was unlikely that European powers would intervene (especially with the emancipation proclamation now in the open). Winning a battle on northern soil, potentially destroying a Union Corps or two, though? Would have wrecked Lincoln's reelection hopes, especially if Harrisburg or Philadelphia had come under attack and been captured!
This ranger is boring.
Ranger Chuck?? This is half Your Country in rebellion, Still you du not respectfully Call them . Confederate forces. I Do not understand this. Please entitle them Confederates not Rebels. Respect Your countrys history sir.
Well said, sir.
So, you say they were in "rebellion" but don't want them called "rebels"? How about we call them "constitutional objectionists"?
Jon Morten Skjetne Olsen Hold on, you've just said that they were 'in rebellion' ??! so they're only rebels when it's you that's describing them, yes? Shit for brains.
That's the perfect name, to offer a Troll statement such as yours, james crowe. lol have a good day
James Crowe, tell us please which part of the U.S. Constitution grants the right to secede? At the time of secession the State's voting to do so, which was generally conducted in a very un democratic manner, had neither a "federal" government nor a Constitution! Lincoln did NOT "invade" Charleston! He did advise South Carolina leaders of his intent to send supplies to Fort Sumter. An attempt that was resisted by firing upon the supply ship. Lincoln's position was very simple. Secession was not an option and he would not recognize the right to do so or the reality of the Southern States actions. While many reasons led to secession (future of slavery, Congressional power, economic differences, States Rights, etc.) it was in fact as much a rebellion as the 13 colonies destroying property and taking up arms against British authority.