Why the New Nightjet is Not the Night Train Revolution We've Been Waiting For...

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  • @drdewott9154
    @drdewott9154 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Yeah the new dynamic pricing is really crappy, and collecting the bedding prematurely like that is really odd. Like why even have the rush, its a night train, you have all the way till the evening to wash everything and its not like you can even do it while the train is moving. I get it if you wanna get started with cleaning as soon as passengers are off but why not just collect it 15 minutes before the last stop then?

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes, it's crappy, but people will pay it. Those who can't, will fly or drive.
      I managed to get a solo deluxe plus between Vienna and Hamburg for less than 200€ during the introduction, where they didn't really have lower limits for the prices.
      But since then it's meh. The mini cabins are nice, but could use more storage, especially if you get the upper bed.

    • @wainber1
      @wainber1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There was awhile back a policy of Russian Railways (RZD) to collect bedding from passengers before such passengers' arrival at a train station that had been a destination for them, and I can recall 1 such video put out by the England-based Bald and Bankrupt TH-cam man of such a journey (a June 2019 one titled "You must do THIAS on Russian trains!") Another video, put out by the London-based Trek Trendy man, is of a train journey from that city to Istanbul (the July 2022 one titled "80 hrs from London to Istanbul by Sleeper Train"), mentions a claim by him of an attendant on the Bucharest-Istanbul segment having demanded the passenger's bedding. I dunno if Turkey's state-run railway still requires passengers to take their bedding to an attendant although given the Trek Trendy man's claim of no on-board catering services during the Bucharest-Istanbul segment of his journey, I wouldn't have wanted to back then take a long-distance train journey with Turkey's equivalent to RZD.

    • @user6343
      @user6343 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The issue with bedding afaik is that the service provider isn't öbb but newrest and to cut costs salaries are basically nit paid after the train arrives thus staff is incentived to start removing the bedding before the train arrives

    • @TheMarcodiator
      @TheMarcodiator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can explain that. I was a train manager for EuroNight (before it became NightJet) for the OBB.
      Some stations will not let staff stay on the train to finish working/cleaning so you are forced to get off just minutes after the guests.
      So there would not be physically any time to collect them.
      Also because we would not be allowed on the train before the guests on the return trip. So we would get on the train with the guests without being able to prepare the train in advance, as it would happen in Vienna or Munich (or all Austrian/German starting stations).
      When the train is packed, it's a lot of bedding. ;)

  • @jakubsimek6246
    @jakubsimek6246 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I travelled on the classic nightjet from Milan to Wien in a couchette compartment. The train was two hours delayed and the conductor came to collect my bedding about 90 minutes before arrival. I was so confused.

    • @austriankangaroo
      @austriankangaroo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      did you ask for your 50% money back for the delay?

  • @SilverWave64
    @SilverWave64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    The problem with the delays is that almost every Nightjet passes through Germany, which has a terribly broken rail network with construction sites everywhere, failing switches and signals, etc.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Ofc that plays a role too, I don't know how reliable the new Nightjets have gotten now some of the early tethering issues have been resolved hopefully. But especially the older stock has lots of issues with reliability too. Iirc Berlin - Paris was shortformed and canceled a lot recently due to lack of availability of stock

    • @saabrailfan310
      @saabrailfan310 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can thank to former DB CEO Mehdorn for all this confusion and delay.

    • @SilverWave64
      @SilverWave64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@saabrailfan310 Thanks, former DB CEO Mehdorn for all this confusion and delay.

    • @ofgjf
      @ofgjf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lots of construction sites at night in Germany where the train gets stuck

  • @sebi506
    @sebi506 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I've travelled in the Mini-Cabin on the Vienna-Hamburg route twice now and have honestly fallen in love with the experience. Compared to travelling to Italy on the older style carriages last year (both couchette and sleeper class) it is a vastly improved experience and I'm already planning my next trips. Cost is a factor, but I'm willing to splurge on the experience and sustainability.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I see why It's definitely a good hard product :D

  • @rogierdewit1539
    @rogierdewit1539 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good to hear that your review of the "hard product" mini cabin itself is positive. Personally, I can live with some delays and found that prices _are_ tolerable if you book _very far_ in advance. So I'm always going to try to book as far in advance as possible.

  • @NikHof-yw6bh
    @NikHof-yw6bh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The sleeping cabin you checked comes with a shower - the shower head is the long silver thing to the right of the sink

  • @i86ij99
    @i86ij99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The cheapest I have seen was 59 euro for the capsule, and 115 euro for a sleeper bed with own WC, if you book early enough to be the first person in that room (the price jumps once there is another person(s) booked for that room), which is not bad considering it is a transport + hotel + time saver (you do nothing at night anyways, instead of wasting time for an extremely early or late flight)

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah if you can get one of those really cheap fares it can be OK value, but the average fare seems to have jumped a lot after the price reform

  • @kielerschaf
    @kielerschaf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I‘ll be taking this train in November and I cannot wait 😊

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope it goes well! It's definitely a fun experience worth looking forward to :D

  • @niceone99
    @niceone99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I really don't get why they don't have a bunch of programmable key cards on board, like when you check into a hotel. I thought that's the whole point of these cards. In the old nightjet carriages you sometimes need a regular key to lock the door. And guess what, half of them where missing. So i really thought the new key cards would work like hotels...

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I guess it's cheaper to have one programming device in the Wien depot, but why it wasn't discovered missing in the depot then seems like a bit of a fail

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hate ÖBB Nightjets robotic policies. When I took the nighttrain from Amsterdam to Vienna we were stuck with 4 in a couchette with 3 beds. Meanwhile there were other couchettes with fewer than 3 persons or entirely empty locked away. That just made it extra uncomfortable for no reason.

  • @jfmezei
    @jfmezei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    These single compartments make financial sense for railway. Stack 3 persons in individual capsules that take less space than a normal 4 person room. The one problem I see is luggage. If you choose an overnight train, chances are much higher this is part of multi day trip and you may have more luggage than fits in that tiny luggage box you showed. And if travelling on business, have fun getting into your busioess suite in that capsule where you can't stand up.
    With regards to delays, it all depends on whether these are ÖBB equipment or track related. Overnight si whene may railway onwers do track maintenance or run freight trains so you can't fault ÖBB for those types of delays. Over time, I suspect Nightjet schedules may become more realistic based on on-time statistics.

    • @steefant
      @steefant 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you can store luggage outside the boxes in other parts of the train as well AFAIK. that's of course less secure as you can't keep your eye on it nor completely locked away but it's unlikely your dirty cloths will get feet IMHO :)

    • @CalinFR
      @CalinFR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there is a dedicated place for large luggage at the end of the train, plenty of space there to use

  • @hellfiregrowler
    @hellfiregrowler 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shocking that there has been a fare hike and dreaded "dynamic pricing" brought in. In this day and age you would think the prices could be lowered to encourage people to travel more sustainably

  • @woistdasniveau8290
    @woistdasniveau8290 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In earlier times they did not collect the bedding but unfortunately people took the pillows and branded sheets as some kind of souvenir so that had to start to collect the sheets so that they dont get stolen anymore.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is fine? But collect it 10 min before arrival and not 90 minutes??

    • @woistdasniveau8290
      @woistdasniveau8290 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Simon-Andersen I am completely on your side but i guess maybe they also want to prevent situations where they collect it and people already put them into their bags.

  • @samtrak1204
    @samtrak1204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like your pricing comparisons and commentary.

  • @HabaneroTi
    @HabaneroTi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to try one of these capsules or compartments someday, but some of these routes are so scenic that I don't see doing it by night, especially Vienna to Zurich. If there was a Paris or Amsterdam to Berlin train I'd consider it, as I've taken that route and while scenic it's not alpine scenic.
    And, while the prices might seem steep by European standards, compared to Amtrak or Via Rail in the USA or Canada, they're bargains. Of course many of their routes are multiday and not merely overnight, and they have proper dining cars with included hot meals and sightseer lounge cars and cafes.

  • @Hahlen
    @Hahlen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It’s a great idea but just implemented very…weirdly. I had the same experience of the conductor not having the key card for my cabin, as did my neighbor.

    • @konichiwamina1412
      @konichiwamina1412 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and what did they do to solve it?

  • @McMicGera
    @McMicGera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just because the train goes from Vienna to Rostock does not mean you are intended to do so. If you take a bus in a city you also don‘t ride it on the whole route, but only a short section. Same here.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know, it was just a bit of a goof on how ridiculous that route seems on the surface. We have a similar train like that in Denmark I've used for excatly a few times, only shorter journeys go get home from the airport late etc 😅

  • @wainber1
    @wainber1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of the carriages on the Nightjet train the narrator took had equivalents to capsule hotels. I plan to, if I ever do get to take an overnight train, book a sleeping compartment although just what that will be remains TBD.

  • @martinwi2890
    @martinwi2890 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The good thing about the delays is that you can almost always get 25% back😅

    • @KL53986
      @KL53986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, in Czech if the train is delayed by 60 - 199 minutes you get 25% back on a ticket. If its 120+ you get 50% even on lower thresholds.

  • @seandavies3968
    @seandavies3968 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does OBB give compensation for late trains?

    • @AL5520
      @AL5520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not that simple.
      EU rules for train passages rights are not great.
      They do state that you can get avfull or psrcial refund for delays of more than 60 minutes but only if it's before departure and you decide not to take the joutney due to this delay. Ifn you've already traveled part of the journey the refund is only for the part you did not use.
      You can also choose to contiunue with rerouting or use it on a different date (with no refund). If due tonthe delay there is no more purpose fornthisntrip they need to provide you with a free ticketbto the origin of the journey. Compensation gor delays between 1-2 hours is 25% and 50% for 2h or more but it does not apply on apretty wide extraordinary circumstances list.
      Also "EU countries can decide to exempt some rail services. These exceptions may apply to urban, suburban, regional, long-distance domestic trains and trains which are operated strictly for historical or touristic purposed. EU countries can also exempt international trains travelling from their territory to non-EU countries - where most of the journey occurs outside the EU and includes at least one scheduled stop in a non-EU country"
      They cannot "exempt cross-border international rail journeys between EU countries.
      OBB specify onbtheir website the basic rights mentioned but not the 25% or 50% refund for delays on journeys you took.

  • @DANIELZZITRAINSPOTTING
    @DANIELZZITRAINSPOTTING 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @simon andersen Vr and transtech are making new nigthtrain
    carriages they will be in use in Late 2025

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ill bec back to try them when they enter service :D

    • @DANIELZZITRAINSPOTTING
      @DANIELZZITRAINSPOTTING 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Simon-Andersen Nice:)

  • @JestonSun
    @JestonSun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:37 When I took a Night Train From Budapest to Prague I talked to a Scottish Guy he said his Night Train in Germany was 8 Hours late to its final destination.

  • @Charlizzie
    @Charlizzie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally saw your face on the latest Miles in Transit video, Simon. I think the German railway system needs some overhaul.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a rare happening 😅 You must have missed some of the earlier videos on my channel where I am on camera :p Yeah Germany definitely have some things to get sorted out with their network

  • @woistdasniveau8290
    @woistdasniveau8290 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The problem with the delys comes fro mthe fact, that somehow, all night trains have the lowest priority on every rails.

  • @madaboutsnooker147
    @madaboutsnooker147 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is it the locomotives with the issues or the cars with pax that cause all the breakdowns ?

    • @Som09mer
      @Som09mer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To a big part probably also the german rail system

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A variation of both id say, my night it was the locomotive / train, but it could just as well be trackworks another night.

    • @madaboutsnooker147
      @madaboutsnooker147 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Simon-Andersen ye ok. Hope those problems wont hit the locomotives of Denmark, as they look the same as those introduced a year or two ago. For the german cars for pax.

  • @McMicGera
    @McMicGera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How was the ride? Smooth or bumpy as before?

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had no issues falling asleep, it was pretty smooth!

  • @woistdasniveau8290
    @woistdasniveau8290 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You were lucky as the bottom windows are larger than the top ones.

  • @ludwigtails
    @ludwigtails 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still personally think the new design shouldn’t even include the cab car. It seriously makes me mad that when they try to couple to another carriage with the cab car. You can’t even walk in between (I get that I don’t think passengers are meant to get in to the portion of a train that they shouldn’t be in.) But that could just be solved with locking the gangway door. And hell if you need to couple 2 nightjet sets you can’t even walk in between the sets cuz of the bloody cab car :/
    The new night jet trains should’ve been just new carriages overall and no cab cars involved.

  • @frankhermans7511
    @frankhermans7511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    with an interrail/eurail pass i would probably take a daytime train and spend the money on a hotel

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Probably what I will do in the future tbh.

    • @collynkieranmclaughlan6983
      @collynkieranmclaughlan6983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Simon-AndersenI've fancied this nightjet train for a while, is it any good? 4 minutes into the video currently.

  • @Loeschmeister81
    @Loeschmeister81 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:30 The DB Stadler Kiss Intercity is no "Nighttrain" at all!! It's just a normal Intercity, that runs through the night!! You cant compare that !!

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well aware, just a little goof 😅

  • @Ebc1129
    @Ebc1129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m sorry but prices are crazy. I was ready to book myself a room. But I don’t think the price is fair.

  • @maximilianl5885
    @maximilianl5885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no showers by the compartments. why? Even as a upsell like in sunrise aero in japan it would be ok. But showers are a must for todays standards

  • @CalinFR
    @CalinFR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find those seats to be the most uncomfortable in the industry. horrible. What's the website with the delays inventory?

  • @user-eg8pv2om7j
    @user-eg8pv2om7j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    100€ buys you a nice hotel with space,ensuite , pool / spa (?)
    Buffet breakfast
    Then Fly,take an express train by day,
    Or pay to stay in a 2 metre X 1 metre box with 2 bread rolls.

    • @moritzgrammer9441
      @moritzgrammer9441 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know that one flight from Vienna to Hamburg will cost you 100€ and above so if you want to compare it with the same budget you should bring a tent or maybe raft on the Elbe or something

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      For 100 euros youre not getting a hotel with all of that in Vienna or Hamburg but in general I agree. Decent hotel + Ryanair is likely cheaper

    • @ssundgaard
      @ssundgaard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where, between Vienna and Hamburg can you get a hotel with pool and spa for 100€?

  • @etet-mg3is
    @etet-mg3is 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Delays have nothing to do with the train itself. As for the price, it costs a fortune to run these night trains especially cross border.
    The couchette mini cabins are revolutionary btw. For one, it greatly increases the appeal to solo travellers who want some rest and privacy

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Delays have plenty to do with the train itself. As mentioned in the video the train broke down multiple times during the night. And wasn't the Paris nightjet canceled a few months ago due to lack of carrigies and more stock being broken than usual? Night trains costs a lot to run sure, but it doesn't explain how prices 2x or 3x overnight. Either ÖBB were dumping prices before or are making a fortune now...

    • @etet-mg3is
      @etet-mg3is 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Simon-Andersen These are locomotive hauled trains, they do not just "break down". And if they really did, you would need a hair splitting shunting operation. For the next 3 months Nightjet services will be reduced due to trackwork.

    • @Wakajce
      @Wakajce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@etet-mg3is of course loco hauled trains can fail.

  • @MarwiX_CZ
    @MarwiX_CZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, I love all Nightjets, but the prices are now really stupid. It's a shame that in this day and age, when everyone normal is trying to help the planet, airline tickets are cheaper than taking the train...

  • @Travel-by-Train
    @Travel-by-Train 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sleeping bed look very small same as the room. 🍒🍒🍒

  • @maxster_8989
    @maxster_8989 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You can blame DB Netze for the delays. All train companies suffer the same delays in the German network.
    As for high prices I guess Öbb is trying to make their night trains turn a profit. My understanding is that night jet loses money or is barely break even.

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The trains are also known to have frequent technical issues though.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This night at least it was announced as technical issues with the train :-)

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Franjo5000 it was coupling up to the train to take it to the storage tracks probably, as Altona is a terminus station.

  • @mari.be.86
    @mari.be.86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:30 Use a card in the age of smart phones? Why? All you need is an app and NFC or a QR code.🤦‍♂

  • @tarkatan971
    @tarkatan971 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    you gotta try some Turkish high speed trains man. For example the seven hour long istanbul to Sivas covering 900 kilometers or so❤️

  • @COCinchinese
    @COCinchinese 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the voice crack at 2:12

  • @Maverik1001
    @Maverik1001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are the only one complaining about the new Nightjets....

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  หลายเดือนก่อน

      My main complaint was the service (soft product) Nightjet offers in general and that the new trains won’t fix that. I see many people share this sentiment based on the top comments. So no, I’m not the only one.

  • @KL53986
    @KL53986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sleeper cells

  • @paolo3739
    @paolo3739 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They cost too much, compared to just fly

    • @RealSamski
      @RealSamski 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would rather rent car or use my own car for this trip. The price is unreasonable in my opinion

    • @Ebc1129
      @Ebc1129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely, the price is absurd

  • @globetrotterwien
    @globetrotterwien 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Die Preise sind ein schlechter Scherz 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @user-eg8pv2om7j
    @user-eg8pv2om7j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ' Cabin " = coffin.

  • @justpf
    @justpf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Öbb is just parasiting on the greenwashing hype. And running through the German clusterfuck aka DB is a guaranteed delay disaster, so thanks but no, I rather fly.

    • @tenny_tenten
      @tenny_tenten 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      although flying is cheaper, goodluck on the 737 tho 💀

    • @duploman0003
      @duploman0003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@tenny_tentenluckily many European airlines have Airbus planes

    • @that1niceguy246
      @that1niceguy246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tenny_tenten Well thanks heavens we have airbus then😂

    • @tenny_tenten
      @tenny_tenten 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@that1niceguy246 Expect 50/50 tho
      If the A320 is older, or a neo with a CFM its a relief
      but if its a P&W powered neo, expect a cancelled flight 😂💀

  • @NinjaBlue9151
    @NinjaBlue9151 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is😠

  • @oslo162
    @oslo162 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HUGE DELAY ,DISRUPTION ,BOOKING ISSUES ARE THEIIR BEST SPECIALITY OF OBB NIGHJET HOW DISGUSTING THAT SERVICES ARE TO AVOID AT ALL COST,,i experimented that night service a once from Frankfurt Airport to Amsterdam-Centraal Staion not gonna use that service again how dissappoint are their service if peoples with families have the plan to travel with them to avoid at all cos,t obb nighjet has failed since the beginning of it's first commercial service and they gonna continue their bullshit commercial service, sorry for my own language but i'm still mad about that joke service that i never fully enjoyed planes are still the best compared to that joke

    • @that1niceguy246
      @that1niceguy246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Okay i had a stroke reading this calm yourself down before typing. Also what is it with the booking issues i never had any on any ÖBB service?

    • @oslo162
      @oslo162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@that1niceguy246 Hi, i never said that my own issues that i experimented with obb nighjet concerns everyone, but in the most case some peoples get trouble with obb nighjet mainly with disruption and overbooking issues, if you hadn't experimented a similar issues with them good for you, look like you was lucky on your own trip i guess but not me on that day of october 2023 from frankfurt airport to Amsterdam not gonna use that service again and you should take look on trustpost and you will see what i mean exactly

  • @zaitsevvadym
    @zaitsevvadym 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that NightJet is not to blame for delays. It probably happens because of whatever happens at Deutsche Bahn that influences every single train, passing through Germany

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Technical fault on the train is definitely Nightjets fault, which is not uncommon either. But ofc DB Netz doesn't help a already struggling operator

  • @rickreid8572
    @rickreid8572 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pointless. Fly.

  • @vnk5932
    @vnk5932 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's more space in the coffin than in this compartment. And a sliding curtain for communicating with a fellow traveler is some kind of pathetic mockery of common sense.

    • @fischX
      @fischX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You better sleep in a coffin than together with a snoring stranger smelling like booze

    • @vnk5932
      @vnk5932 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fischX If everything is so bad in Europe with culture, for introverts there is an excellent example of such a compartment in the Japanese Sunrise night express, everything is made much more convenient there.

    • @Newbyte
      @Newbyte 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is wrong with the sliding curtain? It sounds great for travelling with a friend or partner to me.

    • @vnk5932
      @vnk5932 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Newbyte Everything in this coupe design looks like a caricature of common sense. If you want to chat with a fellow traveler, just take a two-seater compartment.