Thanks for checking out the second channel! I would be stoked if you subscribed while you're here. Tory Bruno is a gentleman and a scholar. Checkout the main channel rocket factory tour here: th-cam.com/video/o0fG_lnVhHw/w-d-xo.html
I absolutely love listening to Tory talk. He and Elon both are amazing to listen to because they are both extremely studied men, highly educated, very intelligent, astute, forthcoming and engaging. I would love to work for either of them. They are both leaders who would chat with you in the hallway when you were just a lowly designer on the same level. Both also have a very hands-on approach to their management style which I find immensely refreshing. Its very reassuring as a designer or engineer to know that your head boss is technical and get their hands dirty and in meetings, knows what hes talking about and knows what you are talking about. People at ULA are lucky to have such a good leader. I bet he chats it up with the people out in the shop all the time; it just seems like thats what he would do. :-)
Brando DiMichele Wording might be a little problem here. Matt's implying that Tory talks like and explains the stuff he knows so that most people would be able to understand. Some other people talk very differently about the stuff they know a lot about, which makes it hard to follow because one might lack much of the background. I think you get what I mean. It's not really that Matt wanted to say one is more human than another. "Human enough" can also be phrased as "not robotic at all" or simply that Tory knows how to adapt to an audience, which some other, also very intelligent people, just don't do some of the time.
@@todd-617 When you can crash all the software handling an entire deployment of thousands of men and hundreds of tanks and aircraft them you have just entered warfare. Its called logistical separation. Its one of the reasons maneuver in warfare is so important. Attack in a manner that forces them to be where there do not want to be. Cyber warefare does that in a crippling way.
01:48 "guidance system's are always attached to the upper stage -- If you attached them to the booster and separated you would have lost your brains ..." I can neither confirm nor deny having done this in KSP.
If I was about to get launched into space in 30 seconds, and my flight computer said downloading software update, I would be cursing the dystopian future I live in.
Shane: "BLT, hold the L and the T" Cortana: *bloop* "Here you are, on half-toasted sourdough" Shane: "Oh look, we passed a pretty bad thunderstorm on the way up" Cortana: "Oh yes , it was quite severe. I was going to tell you I accounted for, it but you were busy watching Destin's new video" Shane: "More bacon please" Cortana: *bloop* Shane: "Cortana, these slices are too long, now my BLT is lopsided"
Tory Bruno is a class act. I hope no one ever forgets the service he has done for his country. I say this as a serious Elon fanboi: ULA has done what they have been asked to to in the manner that they have been asked to do it.
And they've done it with the most impeccable safety/performance record of any commercial/government launch provider that has ever existed. I'm a big fan of what SpaceX is doing and plans to do in the future, and I believe that ULA will have to seriously consider reusability in order to maintain competitiveness into the future. But there are genuinely good reasons why ULA rockets are so comparatively expensive while still being expendable, and I understand those reasons better after watching these videos. SpaceX will continue to improve their already good reliability record, but for now... if it absolutely positively has to go to space today, you grit your teeth, spend the cash, and send it up on an Atlas or a Delta.
@@sixstringedthing well the problem is, no matter how much Tory and ULA wants a reusable/partially reusable launcher, they'll never be allowed to because of the 2 companies that own ULA. If ULA was allowed to become its own company outside of Boeing and Lockheed Martin, then we could in the future see a partially reusable Vulcan which recovers more than just the engines (I say the same thing about Arianespace as well, because I'm European). ULA is an amazing company which does great things, and they need to be set free under Tory's guidance to keep up with SpaceX and Blue Origin in the future
Elon is WAY over-rated. He's a great visionary but a pretty terrible businessman. Only truly successful thing he's ever done is co-found a company that merged with PayPal and didnt keep its name. He was CEO at PayPal for less than a year before the board kicked him to the curb. He used the money he made there to start a bunch of other companies that are propped up and at one point literally had to be bailed out by the federal government. Thank yourdelf and the other taypayers... not him.
Tory's competence is off-the-scale - what an impressive mind, and - judging from the way he shows up in these videos - what a powerful and inspirational leader he must be as well, at the same time as coming across as a gentle and humble man - chapeau!
Very cool, wish I'd thought of going into the space business, when I was a high school lad, we managed to launch a small payload 4 miles high. Had we staged our liquid propellant rocket and our solid propellant rocket we could have done much better than 4 miles. Rocket "safety officer" meaning Dad, did not permit us to go any higher. Not after the NY State police showed up after we launched one of our high powered amateur rockets out over Lake Ontario. Dad lost his nerve to push the envelope. The police were not wise to what we haddone as they responded to a citizen complaint that saw a fireball heading out over the lake moving at high speed and they also heard the rocket breaking the sound barrier as the thrust tapered off close to burnout. We were using spun fiberglass and spun carbon fiber tubing and graphite ceramic nozzles in 1969 long before carbon fiber was as common as today. A neighbor was an engineer for Spaulding Fibre in Western NY and we had bits and pieces tubing to our specs and tech data on their experimental tubing. Low carbon steel had been our material, much safer with composites than steel and easier to work with, pouring 2 part epoxy resins and inserting carbon/ceramic nozzles. Our liquid fuel rocket had a stainless steel un-cooled combustion chamber and nozzle and the tanks were made of aluminium and pressurized with dry ice. The oxidizer was nitric acid and the fuel was an 80/20 mix of turpentine and furfuryl alcohol. Static tested a couple of times to find minimum furfuryl that gave reliable ignition, flown once, the parachute failed. The Isp of about 240 seconds only a little higher than our solid propellants about 220 seconds. Great fun, I did the math and design, my shop skilled buddy did the machining with the help of his shop teacher. Great fun ... learned a lot. Neighbor on one side of us worked for the fibre company and on the other side of my parents house another engineer for Bell Aerospace and assigned to the RM-81 Agena B in the 1960's. I had plenty of expert help, learned how to do stress / strain calculations along with Algebra 2 and Trig for the NY Reagents exam. If anything school math was neglected during a wild construction project. I still crammed and passed the reagents at the end of the school year. A month after school let out Armstrong landed on the Moon, I felt let down, I know how the Soviets must have felt we both lost the space race.
@@livethefuture2492 I am no genius, never met one either among my coworkers many PhD engineers and chemists from the best schools like M.I.T etc. I worked in chemical research for a large oil company and retired when they decided to close one of their research centers and reduce costs. Research is more sweat than brilliance, one project was aircraft deicer fluids, if you fly in winter and they spray your airplane with orange or green fluid I probably had something to do with this product as we had most of that market. Other projects: plastics and paints and super elastic polymers that gave "Nike Air Jordan" their bounce. Nothing as far out as rocketry, although one fellow did leave to do research in rocket fuel.
Usually I feel annoyed that every youtube video stretches something insignificant to 10+ minutes. With this video, it actually has great content for every second of it.
This dude is special, he knows every single detail in the R&D department, but hes also a master at economics of scale and in general. Awesome, I want more of him please
I'm a high school economics teacher and I've been putting off watching the rocket videos because I didn't think it would be interested and one of them was an hour long! Once I started watching though, I couldn't get enough. Tory was incredible and your excitement for what you were seeing and learning was contagious. I knew nothing about rockets or space travel but these videos have been my favorite of all your videos.
@@JoshKaufmanstuff in another video by Destin, he interviewed a 4 star general on the impact of the internet on warfare. Long story short, anything that gives information can be used as a weapon.
I quoted this in my own post, but it seems you get it: "The last time we had a new warfighting domain was a hundred years ago when air was added." Sad cybersecurity noises.
These guys are on another level. I consider myself moderately smart, I kinda get what he's talking about, then you ask a really specific question back about something I didnt even quite realize he was talking about... makes me quickly realize "moderately smart" is a very relative term :p
This guy is old boeing, all the talent left boing in 2006 when ULA was spun off. He is a legit engineer, even when restricted from truly competing with spacex by the board. He is the sole reason ULA may survive into the 2020s. If the ULA board wised up, they would give him a blank check and ULA would make a reusable rocket.
Patrick O I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the direction they are heading. Companies such as SpaceX and Blue Origin will only continue to perfect their launch capabilities and any launch provider that doesn’t get on board with the dramatic cost reductions resulting from a fully reusable rocket will be left behind.
This series was awesome! I honestly have been sitting here, watching this series, gobsmacked. The level of detail that you two covered was exactly what I wanted to watch. My inner geek was screaming with excitement! I wish the videos could have been even longer. Props to Tory as well. I've met leaders in the past who barely understood what their companies do. Tory on the other hand was just as knowledgeable as every member of his staff for each process. That's dedication right there. I cant wait for more videos to come out. Keep up the great work Destin!
Im No engieer, but i think thats why i love this channel. Anyone can learn and understand. This is so cool that its stupid. I love it Cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪
Having studied politics and business in college, I appreciated the discussion presented here, especially in the latter half of this video. I appreciate the cooperation between competitors to get the quantity of components produced to the scale where they become more affordable, and I found the global security tactics / international diplomacy of the USA getting a domestic company buy ex-Soviet engines to counter the potential for ballistic missile weapons proliferation to be fascinating.
I mean he did he straight up said everyone is thinking about spaceX then said what would you say to people who think rockets then Elon and spaceX So........
He does hang out on the SpaceX subreddits, especially SpaceXMasterrace. He once answered a question from me about the Centaur used on the Starliner OFT in one of the SpaceX reddits. Cool dude. You'll also find him on ULAMasterrace of course.
Tory Burno is an incredible human. He seems to be a master of business, history, mechanical engineering, aviation, spoken communications, and education. And he really comes across as just a genuine buddy. I'm glad you had the opportunity for this interview and thanks for sharing!
Re: Mr. Bruno's comments concerning SpaceX, let's clarify a bit. First, ULA was part of the reason SpaceX sued the gov't 6 years ago for the latter's unfair business practices. This is a suit that SpaceX won and also hurt ULA's business. And late last year, SpaceX launched (pun definitely intended) another suit against the gov't and again, ULA is part of the reason for the lawsuit. The bottom line is that without SpaceX, there would be zero impetus...and therefore progress...toward lowering costs in the the space launch market. And for anyone paying attention or who cares about the longevity of civilian space programs (i.e. NON military related), then organizations like SpacesX are a massive blessing and something we simply must have. Otherwise, exploratory space programs will always be up for the budget axe...
Makes sense, he did talk about working with specific competitors to lower production costs for both of them... Kinda like how companies work together to maintain a standard cost and shut out the market. "Compitimates"
Came here after watching the factory tour. Love his knowledge and humble approach. He enjoys when you are asking relevant questions and seems to be excited when you have learned something. Thanks for bringing us along.
cyber isnt a war fighting domain, its just like the cia isnt considered part of the army, sure it does contribute a lot, but theres no cyber force where bullets travel through the internet, so its not a "war fighting domain".
Incredibly impressed by Tory. He knows so many details about the technical components AND he can explain the economic and financial parts of these insanely complex projects. Crazy brilliant.
This and the other video are my favorite videos from SmarterEveryDay. The excitement is contagious and Tory is just an amazing interviewee. Thank you. (I've watched both 3 times now! )
The factory is very large and spread over a huge area. The workers use those tricycles go from one place to another a little quicker. The trikes are labeled so they can be identified as belonging to that particular work area.
It's a callback reference to the early days of Atlas when it had a 3 engine 1 1/2 stage to orbit configuration where the two outboard booster engines were discarded but no actual staging was performed. (I don't actually know I'm just guessing.)
@@Deckrat I worked for ULA. I remember one time I had 3 projects going on in the factory in separate corners. One in the machine shop, one in payloads and one in upperstage checkout. I had no tricycle. I would walk several miles every day checking on them. At the end of the day I'd be pretty pooped out.
This channel is amazing, you're amazing, and Mr. Bruno and the entire ULA team is amazing. It is so refreshing to see technical concepts broken down into plain English, and it is so nice to see American engineers and technicians doing cutting-edge stuff to protect our way of life and serve humanity. Cynics may disagree, but those two concepts are not mutually exclusive. I hope your videos inspire others to study hard, work hard, and dream big! Thank you!
Someone on the NSF forums (not me) noticed something. Pause at 3:30 and look just above the bottom of the window- "Where we're going, we don't need roads"
Destin, between the two of you having this conversation, and the sister video to this on your other channel, this is by far the coolest thing I’ve come across on the internet. Bravo sir!
Great video. Loved the way Bruno allowed himself to be drawn out where necessary for more complete in depth answers. These are 2 amazing interview videos. Thank you for your communication skills and knowledge and your willingness to share them. Hubby an me.
I've really enjoyed this series with Tory, including the launch pad video. Thanks for putting this out there for our enjoyment. I have a feeling that you enjoyed it quite a bit yourself lol
This was one of the best videos, presentation was great. I felt like I was walking with you too, just taking in all the info. Thanks. Oh I'm 65yrs old.
I feel joyed to be able to witness the growth of the space industry. Seems almost nostalgic knowing our grandparents and great grandparents witnessed this in the age of radio and black and white televisions back in the day, and we can see these rockets and learn about them visually via the Internet. What a world we live in! And thanks Destin! This was truly educational.
As one of the parents (born late fifties), I agree. My parents bought a colour TV just to see the moon missions. Everybody I knew, was excited by space exploration and anxious for the Astronauts to come back alive. I go back to the Early Gemini missions. It's still exciting.
I have really enjoyed these videos, thank you so much Destin for these amazing exciting peeks behind the curtains of rocket engineering. Seriously, this stuff gets me so excited about what we can do/are doing :)
This channel is an example of why the tv stations are doing everything to hinder stuff like this. This channel is the same or usually better than anything on tv and I'm sure the production of this is a small percentage of what Discovery or the like would spend. Keep up the good work, both of you.
This was an excellent follow-up to the ULA factory tour!! Tory Bruno seems like one heck of an interesting, bright guy and a real patriot. Thank you, Destin, for interviewing him. I enjoyed this tremendously. You definitely earned my subscription!
This video and the video on your other channel of this tour are insane. I worked for Vulcan Industries (part of EBSCO and in Moody, AL) building metal fixtures out of wire, tube and sheet metal. I’m not an Engineer ( but maybe an adapted one due to my experience), but just love your enthusiasm and positive desire to both learn and teach. Love your channel,!love your Dad (liked the carburetor video) and hope many doors continue to open wide to you!
Thoroughly enjoyed the two video presentations of Tory Bruno tour of the ULA rocket factory. Tory is very clear, genuine and knowledgable in his presentation.
Wow! I don’t comment on videos but i felt I needed to commend this video. This video is unbelievably insightful in this industry. Thanks Mr Bruno for being candid and detailed. I find it fascinating how constrained technology and industries are based on controlling politics and wonder how much more developed we (humans) would be if capitalism functioned correctly at all levels.
Destin, I met you at unclaimed baggage about a year ago with my son Jeff whom is a loyal follower of your channel. What you didn’t know is that I live about an hour from you on Tim’s Ford lake and that I was the operations group commander at the Cape and Patrick AFB and was was responsible for all east and west coast launches. I just wanted to say that you did an outstanding job with you interview with Tory! Excellent, professional and well done neighbor!
Destin. I think this series of videos has been youtube's crowning achievement. This has been amazing. Thank you so much. Next time, bring Scott Manley along. Thanks again.
It's implied they're working towards making at least the first stage of Vulcan reusable, just not from the get go... Actually that's not that different from SpaceX in a way, the Falcon 9 only later started its reusable flights as well. So moving forward step by step. This also lines up with how Blue Origin clearly wants to use that Be-4 engine to make their first stage reusable, so it should be capable of it.
@@Quickshot0 Actually, it's quite a bit different from the Falcon 9. Reusability was a driving design feature, and involves the entire 1st stage. ULA says they'll be developing SMART reuse sometime after Vulcan is flying, with no specifics, and no real commitment. Clearly ULA sees their future is flying expendable boosters for customers who are in their niche.
Why doesn't Tony Bruno get as much press and praise as Elon Musk? He appears to be down to earth, intelligent, not condescending, and really knows his business. He is very interesting to listen to and knows ULA's reputation speaks for itself and he doesn't have to do any fancy gimmicks. Is there any wonder why many sensitive and very high priced payloads fly with ULA. SpaceX is doing great things, but ULA deserves as much if not more credit for what they have done and what they are doing.
I’m so glad you posted this!!!! I just toured Northrop Grumman last week and watched the static fire of the second stage of their OmegA Rocket. So this video was icing on the cake!
Ohhhhh Mannn!!! That was awesome! Fascinating. You literally blew my mind with that conversation. I had to rewatch a few times so my non rocket scientist brain could contemplate those topics. And your video shot structure was impressive. Nice work Dude.
Tory Bruno's in a class of his own. he understands what he says and means what he says. Showing his rocker factory to us rocket/space enthusiast is a gift so precious. thank you Tory and Destin for this wonderful, informative, and fun factory tour. I enjoyed 5 mins "How it's made" videos and definitely enjoyed the 50+ mins and this additional one. Quality content as always Destin. I became smarter again this day.
Thank-you Dustin for sharing this 2nd video. I could listen to you and Tory all day given the opportunity. Tory has an extremely good ability (like yourself) to explain complexity simply for so.many others to understand & comprehend. Thanks again for sharing. 👍👍🙂
It would be neat if you asked the employees about their education and or technical skills that qualifies them for their specific job, next time that is.
Destin I loved watching both these videos. I live about three miles from the ULA facility. I actually helped construct that rocket factory years ago. Along with helping build several other of the plants and infrastructure down Red Hat road. I also helped to build the THAD missile plant out in Courtland before that. I worked across Red Hat for a while as security for another plant and had to hold traffic at our gate several times to let a ULA built rocket roll by going to the docks. Was a fabulous view as they roll so slowly down to the river. I also worked security at the Blue Origin plant in Huntsville, so kinda a lot of connection to this set of videos for me. I have always loved space, spaceships and airplanes. I grew up just across the river from the engine test stand on Marshal and could always hear them fire all the big engines. Of course there were several field trips to the Space and Rocket center with tours over at Marshal. I also had the very special opportunity to do a summer/fall internship at Marshall in high school through the TaG program, so this is all right in my sweet spot. As a kid I wanted to be an astronaut and fighter pilot but grew to be way to tall. So I did the next best thing and became a commercial diver. So I have also had a hand in building, removing or repairing most of the river crossing bridges in North Alabama and dams along the Tennessee river. Maybe you could get me in to see the ULA plant or meet Tory and I can show you some amazing things on the bottom of the river very few people know about or have ever seen. There is even a 100+ million year old skeleton encased in the rock, if you know where to look! Thanks for the awesome content here! I will definitely be following your channels.
Hearing "Space as a warfighting domain" is heartbreaking. Wouldn't it be nice if earth was smart enough to unite and work together? I'm going back to Alpha Centauri.
It's impossible for that to happen (I say that even though I want it), the only way to get something done is to get people and companies to compete against each other, humans can't cooperate, you have to get it so one company can say they did it first
An arms race is not the same as a war. It becomes an accessible domain because of technology, not because of wanting to fight a war. Remember Tory also has a motivation in saying this, as he leads his company and is defending the jobs of all his employees. He is not saying it to promote war or violence. It's about positioning his company for the future in an increasingly competitive marketplace.
Societies devoid of conflict and competition ultimately devolve and fall apart. The drive to compete is a fundamental part of all life on the planet. And conflict doesn't necessarily mean violence and bloodshed. Peace, harmony, and enforced equality sound nice, but they rob the individual of ambition and aspiration. With nothing to strive for or fight against we quickly lose the will to live.
Einstein said you don't understand something if you can't explain it to a 6 year old. Tory Bruno had my 4 year old son mesmerized and we've been watching rocket videos over and over now. Thank you Destin, you've made my son a space man.
The question is, can they hold the national security market. SpaceX is onto that too. Seen the new falcon heavy render with the bigger nosecone and vertical integration facility at Pad 39A? Thats aiming for that excact market!
I could watch interviews like these for hours on end... no matter the company, seeing the technology and the genius minds behind it is truly an inspiration that drives me to learn
So If I understand this correctly, every ULA rocket is essentially a one-off, specced and to do the job it's tasked with. Whereas SpaceX is more "off the shelf" so to speak. The military/government likes the ULA method because it maximizes the potential of their mission, and cost isn't quite as important to them. Businesses like SpaceX 'cause they're cheap and fast, but may have to compromise on some things.
Wow. Tory Bruno is amazing. He has a quiet confidence about him that is quite comforting. It is nice to know there are people like him working on rockets. Thanks for sharing.
The fact the CEO of the company knows so much about every little thing and is even excited to talk about it. A real class act and gentlemen. Very interesting video!!
Thanks for checking out the second channel! I would be stoked if you subscribed while you're here.
Tory Bruno is a gentleman and a scholar. Checkout the main channel rocket factory tour here: th-cam.com/video/o0fG_lnVhHw/w-d-xo.html
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I absolutely love listening to Tory talk. He and Elon both are amazing to listen to because they are both extremely studied men, highly educated, very intelligent, astute, forthcoming and engaging. I would love to work for either of them. They are both leaders who would chat with you in the hallway when you were just a lowly designer on the same level. Both also have a very hands-on approach to their management style which I find immensely refreshing. Its very reassuring as a designer or engineer to know that your head boss is technical and get their hands dirty and in meetings, knows what hes talking about and knows what you are talking about. People at ULA are lucky to have such a good leader. I bet he chats it up with the people out in the shop all the time; it just seems like thats what he would do. :-)
Help! I'm stuck in an infinite loop between videos on your main and second channel!
Seriously though, amazing videos, thanks for putting this out.
omg u are so amzing and i love how u show us all the stuff i am just i love with your content
Tory is smart enough to understand rockets, and human enough to make it so someone like me can follow along. I like him.
Literally this. He is an amazing dude.
So I'm guessing you are very human? Or more human than a certain amount of humans and thus have a hard time speaking to them?
Brando DiMichele Wording might be a little problem here. Matt's implying that Tory talks like and explains the stuff he knows so that most people would be able to understand. Some other people talk very differently about the stuff they know a lot about, which makes it hard to follow because one might lack much of the background. I think you get what I mean. It's not really that Matt wanted to say one is more human than another. "Human enough" can also be phrased as "not robotic at all" or simply that Tory knows how to adapt to an audience, which some other, also very intelligent people, just don't do some of the time.
Yes, as Einstein supposedly said. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough".
Hey I’m subbed to both of you I believe
"The last time we had a new warfighting domain was a hundred years ago when air was added."
Sad cybersecurity noises.
Tony mentioned cybersecurity, but cyber-hacking edited it out. No one can be alerted!
Conflict and War are not always the same thing. Besides, cybersecurity is merely the evolution of espionage.
heyou Wireless, ELINT, and related fields predate powered flight.
When people can fire "physical" bullets through the internet then it will qualify as a war fighting domain
@@todd-617 When you can crash all the software handling an entire deployment of thousands of men and hundreds of tanks and aircraft them you have just entered warfare. Its called logistical separation. Its one of the reasons maneuver in warfare is so important. Attack in a manner that forces them to be where there do not want to be. Cyber warefare does that in a crippling way.
01:48 "guidance system's are always attached to the upper stage -- If you attached them to the booster and separated you would have lost your brains ..."
I can neither confirm nor deny having done this in KSP.
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so true x)
It's really sad watching that payload go without guidance or any way to steer it :(
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Watching this in 2024, I need an updated interview...so many new questions
agree. We have seen the first Vulcan launch. Please @SmarterEveryDay2 make another visit!
If I was about to get launched into space in 30 seconds, and my flight computer said downloading software update, I would be cursing the dystopian future I live in.
imagine windows update mid flight
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Tory Bruno is a class act. I hope no one ever forgets the service he has done for his country. I say this as a serious Elon fanboi: ULA has done what they have been asked to to in the manner that they have been asked to do it.
And they've done it with the most impeccable safety/performance record of any commercial/government launch provider that has ever existed.
I'm a big fan of what SpaceX is doing and plans to do in the future, and I believe that ULA will have to seriously consider reusability in order to maintain competitiveness into the future.
But there are genuinely good reasons why ULA rockets are so comparatively expensive while still being expendable, and I understand those reasons better after watching these videos.
SpaceX will continue to improve their already good reliability record, but for now... if it absolutely positively has to go to space today, you grit your teeth, spend the cash, and send it up on an Atlas or a Delta.
@@sixstringedthing well the problem is, no matter how much Tory and ULA wants a reusable/partially reusable launcher, they'll never be allowed to because of the 2 companies that own ULA. If ULA was allowed to become its own company outside of Boeing and Lockheed Martin, then we could in the future see a partially reusable Vulcan which recovers more than just the engines (I say the same thing about Arianespace as well, because I'm European). ULA is an amazing company which does great things, and they need to be set free under Tory's guidance to keep up with SpaceX and Blue Origin in the future
Did you see the rats running across elon’s “rocket boosters” while in “space”?
Elon is WAY over-rated. He's a great visionary but a pretty terrible businessman. Only truly successful thing he's ever done is co-found a company that merged with PayPal and didnt keep its name. He was CEO at PayPal for less than a year before the board kicked him to the curb. He used the money he made there to start a bunch of other companies that are propped up and at one point literally had to be bailed out by the federal government. Thank yourdelf and the other taypayers... not him.
@@andrewlightbody4221 well I agree with the fact that he's way to hyped up in this world, you can't deny what his companies have done
Every company should have a CEO that knows the actual business so well. He is very much NOT an MBA drone.
Have you seen interviews with Peter Beck? He is the CEO of Rocket Lab - and a space nerd as well who really knows what he and his company is doing.
@@annando , indeed. Elon too.
Perfectly summed up. As Musk himself has said, there are too many MBA CEOs. ULA CEO clearly knows his stuff but has that genuine passion too.
Tory's competence is off-the-scale - what an impressive mind, and - judging from the way he shows up in these videos - what a powerful and inspirational leader he must be as well, at the same time as coming across as a gentle and humble man - chapeau!
Bill you are a cyclist I presume!
Yeah, that seems like an incredibly hard act to pull off... If it can be called an act...
he literally has an answer for every question.
Very cool, wish I'd thought of going into the space business, when I was a high school lad, we managed to launch a small payload 4 miles high. Had we staged our liquid propellant rocket and our solid propellant rocket we could have done much better than 4 miles. Rocket "safety officer" meaning Dad, did not permit us to go any higher. Not after the NY State police showed up after we launched one of our high powered amateur rockets out over Lake Ontario. Dad lost his nerve to push the envelope. The police were not wise to what we haddone as they responded to a citizen complaint that saw a fireball heading out over the lake moving at high speed and they also heard the rocket breaking the sound barrier as the thrust tapered off close to burnout. We were using spun fiberglass and spun carbon fiber tubing and graphite ceramic nozzles in 1969 long before carbon fiber was as common as today. A neighbor was an engineer for Spaulding Fibre in Western NY and we had bits and pieces tubing to our specs and tech data on their experimental tubing. Low carbon steel had been our material, much safer with composites than steel and easier to work with, pouring 2 part epoxy resins and inserting carbon/ceramic nozzles. Our liquid fuel rocket had a stainless steel un-cooled combustion chamber and nozzle and the tanks were made of aluminium and pressurized with dry ice. The oxidizer was nitric acid and the fuel was an 80/20 mix of turpentine and furfuryl alcohol. Static tested a couple of times to find minimum furfuryl that gave reliable ignition, flown once, the parachute failed. The Isp of about 240 seconds only a little higher than our solid propellants about 220 seconds. Great fun, I did the math and design, my shop skilled buddy did the machining with the help of his shop teacher. Great fun ... learned a lot. Neighbor on one side of us worked for the fibre company and on the other side of my parents house another engineer for Bell Aerospace and assigned to the RM-81 Agena B in the 1960's. I had plenty of expert help, learned how to do stress / strain calculations along with Algebra 2 and Trig for the NY Reagents exam. If anything school math was neglected during a wild construction project. I still crammed and passed the reagents at the end of the school year. A month after school let out Armstrong landed on the Moon, I felt let down, I know how the Soviets must have felt we both lost the space race.
Michael Law no one replied to you bro
Michael Law I read this!
wow! so what are you doing now? surely a genius like you could get a job in an aerospace company like ULA, spacex or blue origin.
@@livethefuture2492 I am no genius, never met one either among my coworkers many PhD engineers and chemists from the best schools like M.I.T etc. I worked in chemical research for a large oil company and retired when they decided to close one of their research centers and reduce costs. Research is more sweat than brilliance, one project was aircraft deicer fluids, if you fly in winter and they spray your airplane with orange or green fluid I probably had something to do with this product as we had most of that market. Other projects: plastics and paints and super elastic polymers that gave "Nike Air Jordan" their bounce. Nothing as far out as rocketry, although one fellow did leave to do research in rocket fuel.
Michael Law Nike Air Jordan's helped me win the high jump in school. Thank you for the bounce!
first time ever the "left over footage" only made 25% as much as the main cut.... haha must be hard to cut down footage when it is all 100% quality.
Usually I feel annoyed that every youtube video stretches something insignificant to 10+ minutes. With this video, it actually has great content for every second of it.
Its because its all filler. This is just a flow of information and that is what grabs you.
This dude is special, he knows every single detail in the R&D department, but hes also a master at economics of scale and in general. Awesome, I want more of him please
The way he simplifies and explains complicated things in clear and concise manner really tells you that he truly know his stuff.
I'm a high school economics teacher and I've been putting off watching the rocket videos because I didn't think it would be interested and one of them was an hour long! Once I started watching though, I couldn't get enough. Tory was incredible and your excitement for what you were seeing and learning was contagious. I knew nothing about rockets or space travel but these videos have been my favorite of all your videos.
as the General would say, this video is a weapon.
I got the reference!
Please explain?
@@JoshKaufmanstuff in another video by Destin, he interviewed a 4 star general on the impact of the internet on warfare. Long story short, anything that gives information can be used as a weapon.
I quoted this in my own post, but it seems you get it:
"The last time we had a new warfighting domain was a hundred years ago when air was added."
Sad cybersecurity noises.
@@BloodAsp and now we got space and the internet. and WW3 in front of our door
These guys are on another level. I consider myself moderately smart, I kinda get what he's talking about, then you ask a really specific question back about something I didnt even quite realize he was talking about... makes me quickly realize "moderately smart" is a very relative term :p
Amazing interview. I like his answers to questions about SpaceX and am also glad you asked and didn't chicken out from the elephant in the room. Great
This guy is old boeing, all the talent left boing in 2006 when ULA was spun off. He is a legit engineer, even when restricted from truly competing with spacex by the board. He is the sole reason ULA may survive into the 2020s. If the ULA board wised up, they would give him a blank check and ULA would make a reusable rocket.
Patrick O I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the direction they are heading. Companies such as SpaceX and Blue Origin will only continue to perfect their launch capabilities and any launch provider that doesn’t get on board with the dramatic cost reductions resulting from a fully reusable rocket will be left behind.
@@Oxibase I would be suprised because nothing they have proposed involves reusable rockets at all.
Patrick O he was from Lockheed Martin and not from Boeing.
Patrick O there is. ULA in around 2024 will be recovering their engines.
A very big thank you to Tory for taking Destin (and us) through his factory!
This channel should be called "Smarter Every Other Day"
Gibbontake or smarter some days
@@brantley7941 Smarter Today
@@brantley7941 smarter every so often
Even smarter every day
Smarter every month
This series was awesome! I honestly have been sitting here, watching this series, gobsmacked. The level of detail that you two covered was exactly what I wanted to watch. My inner geek was screaming with excitement! I wish the videos could have been even longer. Props to Tory as well. I've met leaders in the past who barely understood what their companies do. Tory on the other hand was just as knowledgeable as every member of his staff for each process. That's dedication right there. I cant wait for more videos to come out. Keep up the great work Destin!
Im No engieer, but i think thats why i love this channel. Anyone can learn and understand.
This is so cool that its stupid. I love it
Cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪
Hej kamrat
You don't need to be an engineer to understand anything, but if you are a sweeds you'll have a hard time!
@@CaptTroll yes, hello I am *a sweeds*
why would a Swede have a hard time understanding?
Awesome! This is why I like ULA. Tory is a humble guy and took the time to do a in-depth tour that he didn’t have to do. Thank you for this.
Yes thank you tory. I'm really glad you are an American; on our team.
Having studied politics and business in college, I appreciated the discussion presented here, especially in the latter half of this video. I appreciate the cooperation between competitors to get the quantity of components produced to the scale where they become more affordable, and I found the global security tactics / international diplomacy of the USA getting a domestic company buy ex-Soviet engines to counter the potential for ballistic missile weapons proliferation to be fascinating.
Or alternatively, they can more easily get billions of dollars from the government if they employ more people across the country.
He never actually mentioned SpaceX or "Elon" by name or anything like that. He has great diplomatic skills.
I mean he did he straight up said everyone is thinking about spaceX then said what would you say to people who think rockets then Elon and spaceX So........
@@jakester6785 I wasnt talking about Destin, but the other guy. Even when asked directly he never says those names.
He does hang out on the SpaceX subreddits, especially SpaceXMasterrace. He once answered a question from me about the Centaur used on the Starliner OFT in one of the SpaceX reddits. Cool dude. You'll also find him on ULAMasterrace of course.
gekfurian what reason would he have to mention them other then just forcing they’re name into it again when “they” does the job
You mean like in "only one GPS satellite is launched by another provider"? :-)
So, Destin, any plans to go tour other companies' factories and explore the differences in the manufacturing process?
I want to see Destin doing a tour in Boca Chica
I'd be happy to.
@@smartereveryday that would be awesome!
I’d like to see this same setup with a Boeing tour, and wonder if Boeing’s new CEO is 10% as smart and gracious as this one.
i.e spacex
Tory Burno is an incredible human. He seems to be a master of business, history, mechanical engineering, aviation, spoken communications, and education. And he really comes across as just a genuine buddy. I'm glad you had the opportunity for this interview and thanks for sharing!
"Too big to fail" comment was perfect. As was his response.
ULA is very fortunate to have Tory running the show. Thanks for the insight into his domain.
Re: Mr. Bruno's comments concerning SpaceX, let's clarify a bit. First, ULA was part of the reason SpaceX sued the gov't 6 years ago for the latter's unfair business practices. This is a suit that SpaceX won and also hurt ULA's business. And late last year, SpaceX launched (pun definitely intended) another suit against the gov't and again, ULA is part of the reason for the lawsuit.
The bottom line is that without SpaceX, there would be zero impetus...and therefore progress...toward lowering costs in the the space launch market. And for anyone paying attention or who cares about the longevity of civilian space programs (i.e. NON military related), then organizations like SpacesX are a massive blessing and something we simply must have. Otherwise, exploratory space programs will always be up for the budget axe...
Yeah, but what did you expect him to say? This is supposed to be a feel good video.
@1Energine1 i see someone doesn't have a company
Makes sense, he did talk about working with specific competitors to lower production costs for both of them... Kinda like how companies work together to maintain a standard cost and shut out the market. "Compitimates"
Came here after watching the factory tour. Love his knowledge and humble approach. He enjoys when you are asking relevant questions and seems to be excited when you have learned something. Thanks for bringing us along.
Tory - "The last time we had a new war fighting domain was 100 years ago when air was added."
Cyber - "Am I a joke to you?"
he's talking about physical ,war fighting domains
cyber isnt a war fighting domain, its just like the cia isnt considered part of the army, sure it does contribute a lot, but theres no cyber force where bullets travel through the internet, so its not a "war fighting domain".
Incredibly impressed by Tory. He knows so many details about the technical components AND he can explain the economic and financial parts of these insanely complex projects. Crazy brilliant.
This and the other video are my favorite videos from SmarterEveryDay. The excitement is contagious and Tory is just an amazing interviewee. Thank you. (I've watched both 3 times now! )
Tory Bruno. What a great CEO. His in depth detailed knowledge in so many different aspects of his industry is simply AMAZING.
Cool interview, but now I'm curious in the tricycle labeled "Atlas Booster" in the background.
The factory is very large and spread over a huge area. The workers use those tricycles go from one place to another a little quicker. The trikes are labeled so they can be identified as belonging to that particular work area.
Duh, it's a rocket powered tricycle. What else would they have there?
It's a callback reference to the early days of Atlas when it had a 3 engine 1 1/2 stage to orbit configuration where the two outboard booster engines were discarded but no actual staging was performed. (I don't actually know I'm just guessing.)
@@Deckrat I worked for ULA. I remember one time I had 3 projects going on in the factory in separate corners. One in the machine shop, one in payloads and one in upperstage checkout. I had no tricycle. I would walk several miles every day checking on them. At the end of the day I'd be pretty pooped out.
It's like the sea going ship they have to transport the rockets thousands of miles to launch centers. It's named "Rocketship"
I work in aeospace industry and this tour of the plant was most amazing thing I have seen in a long time.
What an amazing and charismatic person Tory is it’s a joy listening to him
That was extremely generous of him to let u up in there, what an honour, well done and we'll covered 😎👍🏻🏴
This channel is amazing, you're amazing, and Mr. Bruno and the entire ULA team is amazing. It is so refreshing to see technical concepts broken down into plain English, and it is so nice to see American engineers and technicians doing cutting-edge stuff to protect our way of life and serve humanity. Cynics may disagree, but those two concepts are not mutually exclusive. I hope your videos inspire others to study hard, work hard, and dream big! Thank you!
I have to confess that Destin is a genuinely clever chap.
Someone on the NSF forums (not me) noticed something. Pause at 3:30 and look just above the bottom of the window- "Where we're going, we don't need roads"
Destin, between the two of you having this conversation, and the sister video to this on your other channel, this is by far the coolest thing I’ve come across on the internet. Bravo sir!
Great video. Loved the way Bruno allowed himself to be drawn out where necessary for more complete in depth answers. These are 2 amazing interview videos. Thank you for your communication skills and knowledge and your willingness to share them. Hubby an me.
Today I learned there is a second channel. The main video was -- by far -- my favorite so far and I'm excited about this one as well.
I've really enjoyed this series with Tory, including the launch pad video. Thanks for putting this out there for our enjoyment. I have a feeling that you enjoyed it quite a bit yourself lol
One Year later I wonder how happy he is about his choice of engine.
This was one of the best videos, presentation was great. I felt like I was walking with you too, just taking in all the info. Thanks. Oh I'm 65yrs old.
I feel joyed to be able to witness the growth of the space industry. Seems almost nostalgic knowing our grandparents and great grandparents witnessed this in the age of radio and black and white televisions back in the day, and we can see these rockets and learn about them visually via the Internet. What a world we live in! And thanks Destin! This was truly educational.
As one of the parents (born late fifties), I agree.
My parents bought a colour TV just to see the moon missions. Everybody I knew, was excited by space exploration and anxious for the Astronauts to come back alive. I go back to the Early Gemini missions. It's still exciting.
I have really enjoyed these videos, thank you so much Destin for these amazing exciting peeks behind the curtains of rocket engineering.
Seriously, this stuff gets me so excited about what we can do/are doing :)
This channel is an example of why the tv stations are doing everything to hinder stuff like this. This channel is the same or usually better than anything on tv and I'm sure the production of this is a small percentage of what Discovery or the like would spend. Keep up the good work, both of you.
Such an intelligent man, he can pretty much fill in to do any task if someone calls in sick. Haha Great interview Dustin 👏🏾👏🏾
This was an excellent follow-up to the ULA factory tour!! Tory Bruno seems like one heck of an interesting, bright guy and a real patriot. Thank you, Destin, for interviewing him. I enjoyed this tremendously. You definitely earned my subscription!
Fascinating! Watched both of these videos from end to end and I still wanna keep watching. I mean how often do you get to see something like this!
This video and the video on your other channel of this tour are insane. I worked for Vulcan Industries (part of EBSCO and in Moody, AL) building metal fixtures out of wire, tube and sheet metal. I’m not an Engineer ( but maybe an adapted one due to my experience), but just love your enthusiasm and positive desire to both learn and teach. Love your channel,!love your Dad (liked the carburetor video) and hope many doors continue to open wide to you!
Wow...what a tour. Thanks for the expose', Dustin !! Love this channel,....to infinity and beyond !!
Thoroughly enjoyed the two video presentations of Tory Bruno tour of the ULA rocket factory. Tory is very clear, genuine and knowledgable in his presentation.
An Hour & about 10 minutes well spent! Really enjoyed the 50 odd minute video, this stuff is fascinating and bravo Destin :)
Thank you, Destin. I translated this video to my 12yo son and he was amazed. Also he updated me on the rocketry technicals he knows better than me.
Wow! I don’t comment on videos but i felt I needed to commend this video. This video is unbelievably insightful in this industry. Thanks Mr Bruno for being candid and detailed. I find it fascinating how constrained technology and industries are based on controlling politics and wonder how much more developed we (humans) would be if capitalism functioned correctly at all levels.
finish your thought. What do you mean by restrained and what do you mean about capitalism functioning correctly?
Destin, I met you at unclaimed baggage about a year ago with my son Jeff whom is a loyal follower of your channel. What you didn’t know is that I live about an hour from you on Tim’s Ford lake and that I was the operations group commander at the Cape and Patrick AFB and was was responsible for all east and west coast launches. I just wanted to say that you did an outstanding job with you interview with Tory! Excellent, professional and well done neighbor!
Too short! More, more, more...
Destin. I think this series of videos has been youtube's crowning achievement. This has been amazing. Thank you so much. Next time, bring Scott Manley along. Thanks again.
Great interview, oh but I wish you asked about reusability
They are not capable of it. For one they do not make engines, they buy them from Russia. What they do make is old news... Wasting our money.
@@tsangarisjohn he said that the new vulcan rocket engines will be capable of reusability, but that they are not doing that yet
@@tsangarisjohn If you listened, he actually said vulcan rocket is using taxpayer money more efficiently
It's implied they're working towards making at least the first stage of Vulcan reusable, just not from the get go... Actually that's not that different from SpaceX in a way, the Falcon 9 only later started its reusable flights as well. So moving forward step by step. This also lines up with how Blue Origin clearly wants to use that Be-4 engine to make their first stage reusable, so it should be capable of it.
@@Quickshot0 Actually, it's quite a bit different from the Falcon 9. Reusability was a driving design feature, and involves the entire 1st stage. ULA says they'll be developing SMART reuse sometime after Vulcan is flying, with no specifics, and no real commitment. Clearly ULA sees their future is flying expendable boosters for customers who are in their niche.
Why doesn't Tony Bruno get as much press and praise as Elon Musk? He appears to be down to earth, intelligent, not condescending, and really knows his business. He is very interesting to listen to and knows ULA's reputation speaks for itself and he doesn't have to do any fancy gimmicks. Is there any wonder why many sensitive and very high priced payloads fly with ULA. SpaceX is doing great things, but ULA deserves as much if not more credit for what they have done and what they are doing.
Your unlimited passion is just lovely, Destin!
13:44 Tory Bruno doing the Jedi hand wave: "that we're not talking about today"
Lol
I’m so glad you posted this!!!! I just toured Northrop Grumman last week and watched the static fire of the second stage of their OmegA Rocket. So this video was icing on the cake!
Absolutely loved this and the long version, please do more of this! Such an amazing person Tory is.
That was awesome. It makes a person wonder about what is in the works for the future and where it will literally take humanity.
TIL there's more competition in the rocketry industry than in the semiconductor industry
Ohhhhh Mannn!!! That was awesome! Fascinating. You literally blew my mind with that conversation. I had to rewatch a few times so my non rocket scientist brain could contemplate those topics. And your video shot structure was impressive. Nice work Dude.
Is there a "Spock" component planned for any part of the "Vulcan" series engines? (Live long and propel!)
Tory Bruno's in a class of his own. he understands what he says and means what he says. Showing his rocker factory to us rocket/space enthusiast is a gift so precious. thank you Tory and Destin for this wonderful, informative, and fun factory tour. I enjoyed 5 mins "How it's made" videos and definitely enjoyed the 50+ mins and this additional one. Quality content as always Destin. I became smarter again this day.
I didn't even know you HAD a second channel, duh is me.
Cheers for the videos, I never lose interest when I watch them, unlike many others on TH-cam.
His best content is on the second channel.
How could I have missed this for so long? Great video! in every point of view. thanks to you and Tory.
12:00 The bike is called "Atlas Booster" xd
Thank-you Dustin for sharing this 2nd video. I could listen to you and Tory all day given the opportunity. Tory has an extremely good ability (like yourself) to explain complexity simply for so.many others to understand & comprehend.
Thanks again for sharing. 👍👍🙂
It would be neat if you asked the employees about their education and or technical skills that qualifies them for their specific job, next time that is.
I could listen to this guy talk for hours. Awesome interview.
he literally made space x look like a kid , without even saying a bad word ! only a great CEO could achieve that kind of diplomacy !
Destin I loved watching both these videos. I live about three miles from the ULA facility. I actually helped construct that rocket factory years ago. Along with helping build several other of the plants and infrastructure down Red Hat road. I also helped to build the THAD missile plant out in Courtland before that. I worked across Red Hat for a while as security for another plant and had to hold traffic at our gate several times to let a ULA built rocket roll by going to the docks. Was a fabulous view as they roll so slowly down to the river. I also worked security at the Blue Origin plant in Huntsville, so kinda a lot of connection to this set of videos for me. I have always loved space, spaceships and airplanes. I grew up just across the river from the engine test stand on Marshal and could always hear them fire all the big engines. Of course there were several field trips to the Space and Rocket center with tours over at Marshal. I also had the very special opportunity to do a summer/fall internship at Marshall in high school through the TaG program, so this is all right in my sweet spot. As a kid I wanted to be an astronaut and fighter pilot but grew to be way to tall. So I did the next best thing and became a commercial diver. So I have also had a hand in building, removing or repairing most of the river crossing bridges in North Alabama and dams along the Tennessee river. Maybe you could get me in to see the ULA plant or meet Tory and I can show you some amazing things on the bottom of the river very few people know about or have ever seen. There is even a 100+ million year old skeleton encased in the rock, if you know where to look! Thanks for the awesome content here! I will definitely be following your channels.
Hearing "Space as a warfighting domain" is heartbreaking. Wouldn't it be nice if earth was smart enough to unite and work together? I'm going back to Alpha Centauri.
It's impossible for that to happen (I say that even though I want it), the only way to get something done is to get people and companies to compete against each other, humans can't cooperate, you have to get it so one company can say they did it first
An arms race is not the same as a war. It becomes an accessible domain because of technology, not because of wanting to fight a war.
Remember Tory also has a motivation in saying this, as he leads his company and is defending the jobs of all his employees. He is not saying it to promote war or violence. It's about positioning his company for the future in an increasingly competitive marketplace.
How can you remove conflict from humanity when the main motivation is increasing property?
Space force
Societies devoid of conflict and competition ultimately devolve and fall apart. The drive to compete is a fundamental part of all life on the planet. And conflict doesn't necessarily mean violence and bloodshed. Peace, harmony, and enforced equality sound nice, but they rob the individual of ambition and aspiration. With nothing to strive for or fight against we quickly lose the will to live.
Einstein said you don't understand something if you can't explain it to a 6 year old. Tory Bruno had my 4 year old son mesmerized and we've been watching rocket videos over and over now. Thank you Destin, you've made my son a space man.
1:23 Destin: "So the brains that drive the Centaur, where's that at?" Me: "Is it in the human part or the horse part?"
The question is, can they hold the national security market. SpaceX is onto that too. Seen the new falcon heavy render with the bigger nosecone and vertical integration facility at Pad 39A? Thats aiming for that excact market!
5:30 Car guys just say "Lean is Mean" basically the same concept.
I could watch interviews like these for hours on end... no matter the company, seeing the technology and the genius minds behind it is truly an inspiration that drives me to learn
There's a word that FIRST Robotics uses for it's competitions:
Coopertition
Imo, rolls off the tongue a bit better than "Competimate" :)
Loved both of these videos. So exciting to hear from an expert who is passionate about his business. Keep up the good work!
So If I understand this correctly, every ULA rocket is essentially a one-off, specced and to do the job it's tasked with. Whereas SpaceX is more "off the shelf" so to speak.
The military/government likes the ULA method because it maximizes the potential of their mission, and cost isn't quite as important to them.
Businesses like SpaceX 'cause they're cheap and fast, but may have to compromise on some things.
i dont think spacex is as "cheap" as people think
Wow. Tory Bruno is amazing. He has a quiet confidence about him that is quite comforting. It is nice to know there are people like him working on rockets. Thanks for sharing.
"Not a lot" is still 365k+ subscribers. 😯
The fact the CEO of the company knows so much about every little thing and is even excited to talk about it. A real class act and gentlemen. Very interesting video!!
Multi Domain Operations...
Hey! I saw an awesome video about that... now... which channel was it?
🤣
Same! This reminded me of that vid too
Tory is -out of this world- smart.. just a wealth of information and knowledge.
12:54 They way he said "Developing a new Vulcan rocket" was as if a child getting a new toy.
I mean like I would do the same...
I appreciate your work Destin. Keep on keepin on 👍
Tory is not only a gentleman and a scholar, but he's The Dude. And by rockets he abides.
Thank you so much for these videos Destin, they are awesome. Loved em.