My favorite moment with a wild magic sorcerer was when we were level 2 or 3 and he rolled the result that would cast reincarnate on him if he died in a short time period and then the next turn he rolled a again and exploded in a fireball died and reincarnated on the spot.
Played a wild magic sorcerer who was ashamed of how he couldn’t control it. Wanted so badly to be a wizard he carried around a “spell book” and bluffed every time he cast a spell to convince people he was one. The party knew it was BS but pretended to believe him as a joke. “Hey Doonigan, you got a spell for this in your secret book?” “Uhhhhh...” *page is a doodle of a mindflayer* “Nope.” “Weird, this just looks like a diary entry...” “It’s a cipher so dumbasses like you can’t decode my spells. Don’t read it though.” “This is a shopping list.” “No, it’s a spell materials list.”
1:30 Introduction 7:20 Ability Scores 9:19 Potential Races You Might Want To Pick 10:54 Proficiency 12:18 Certain Skills Recommended 14:34 Spell Save DC/Spell Attack Modifier 15:18 What Makes The Sorcerer Different/17:10 Metamagic 21:22 What Kind Of Sorcerer Do You Want To Be From Level 1 (Starting with Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer) 22:25 Wild Magic Sorcerer 23:50 Shadow Sorcerer 25:04 Divine Soul Sorcerer 25:54 Storm Sorcerer 26:41 Spells 28:25 Damage Spells 29:37 Battle Field Control (Crowd Control) 30:10 Utility 33:07 Ideas for Background
Deathcangame2 Different game,the ball is still called a ball and the goal is still get the ball to one side opposite to the one you start on with the rest of your team. My point:Different sources but they still never specifically defined their terms to be different then ours and act a lot like ours so it is safe to assume they mean the same thing or at least are meant to.
@@martinkadlec6070 same here. I’m currently sitting on acouple myself. My favorite is a homebrew character sorcerer I made who’s a half lightning draconian half changeling. Seems like it’ll be hella fun to play but the way I point specked him he’s a min max of charisma, con and dex with intelligence and wisdom falling way behind. I’ll have to play him like a extremely tanky and elusive Gilderoy Lockheart from HP or Zapp Brannigan from futurama lmfao
subtle spell can actually be very good. It allows you to cast within the area of a silence effect, and it makes any spell without material components uncounterable, because the rival spell caster will have no indication of the casting. I believe there were sage advice rulings from Jeremy Crawford on both uses. My DM also tends to make NPCs very suspicious of any casting they witness because in a world of magic, he reasons people would view a caster chanting arcane words and drawing symbols in the air like we might view someone brandishing a weapon or pouring a strange powder into someone's drink. It raises eyebrows.
Subtle spell is extremely useful, and I agree, many players don't understand that in a world of magic, spellcasting is something even normal people might be able to recognize: even if they can't discern what the spell is or how to do it. In my worlds, arcane somatic and verbal components of *genuine* spellcasting are obvious: somatic components cause arcane sigils to dance along your fingertips (al la Dr Strange), and your voice takes on a resonant tone when you cast a spell. This doesn't happen if you're a sorcerer with subtle spell!
In my early days of D&D I played a wild sorcerer who was completely oblivious to the potential of his power. Instead of working to figure out the origin of his magic or how he can wield it, he just tried to figure out how to turn into a potted plant. He was overjoyed when his wild magic ended up turning him into one.
Depending on adversaries, Subtle spell can be really powerful in combat. Since letting someone cast without any somatic or verbal components will make it close to impossible to counterspell them. Immensely frustrating if the BBEG just teleports out, and the a party arcane caster goes: “I cast counterspell”. and GM goes, you never saw a spell being cast.
I think that counterspell thing with subtle spell is debateable and up to the DM since some spells you can see coming towards you. But anyway subtle spell is also suprisingly good for combat because you can cast spells in any situation where other casters couldnt. You can cast with your hands tied, or your mouth gagged, or with an ogre bearhugging you in a grapple. So combined with a teleport spell the only way to capture you alive is sticking you in a no magic zone lol. Or you can blast something holding you.
The only way I think some one could counterspell subtle spells is by being used the effects of detect magic. So they could see the magic power building up within them as they prepare to cast a spell.
@@michaelball2529 detect magic is a. A concentration spell. B. An action to activate even if they have it up. And C. The pulse only lasts untill the end of their turn
@@_NobodySpecial_ A. Yes it is. B. I fail to see how this has any effect on counterspell viability. C. No it doesn't have a pulse that lasts until the end of your turn? Idk what you're getting at, but if you have detect magic up, you just always detect magic.
I feel like you underestimated the power a charisma character casting subtle mass suggestion while casually holding their crystal focus in their pocket amongst a crowd. Or the fact that it is a feature unique only to sorcerers. Even an Arcane Trickster with greater invisibility has to chant verbal components in a clear voice, which would be easy to hear. Subtle sorcerers with urchin background can sneak up with a rogue (or just be the rogue, honestly), twin greater invisibility the both of them, walk in to a room and (depending on if the npcs can pass a check to hear the two) cast a spell without anyone even understanding how it's happening (depending on spell descriptions. Obviosuly rays and spells like fireball have a line pointing back to the caster). Also, the ability to blatantly ignore the effects of silence for 1 spell point at high levels is awesome. Or the ability to cast a spell against someone while underwater or being strangled. The argument can also be made that a Subtle Sorcerer with Greater Invisibility is immmune to Counterspell thanks to Xanathar's rules on "Perceiving a Caster at Work". Even without Greater Invisibility if the sorcerer is using subtle on a spell without a material comonent (If you can't percieve the caster is casting a spell, you can't trigger the reaction with "when you see a creature within 60 ft cast a spell" because you simply don't see a creature casting a spell) Honestly, a lot of it depends on how "real" your dm is with the roleplay. For example, two guards bar your entry to the town proper due to a crime of some sort. Sure, you can charm person one of the guards, but before you even cast the spell you chant and wave about. That other guard's not going to sit there and ask questions about what you did to their buddy. They are probably going to pressume hostility and attack. However, walking up to one of the guards while subtle casting Charm Person (only has v and s) then saying "Buddy! I haven't seen you in ages!" is both imperceptible and a free gamble (if they pass the save and don't regard you as a "friendly acquaintance" just do a "oh, sorry friend! Thought you were someone I knew." Sure it realies on some social checks, but it's a good thing charisma is your highest stat) That was longer than I meant it to be. I just really love Subtle spell. Sorcerers sacrifice versitality and spells on hand (high level Wizards have more spells prepared then sorcs have known at level 20) for the ability to cast a small pool of spells better than other classes can cast those same spells (Twin Polymorph at level 8 to make 2 T Rex's, ie.). For 1 spell point Subtle adds a HUGE amount of versitality for a class that severely lacks in it Tl;DR An Urchin Sorcerer with Subtle and Quickened as their first two metamagics makes an arguably better (or at least more spellcastery) "Arcane Trickster" than the actual archetype, and it's awesome.
What if someone had cast detect magic could they see the magical power building up to cast a spell their for counterspell it. I only ask because I am letting a player of mine use an ability similar to the subtle spell metamagic. Though his is constant effect on every spell he cast.
@@michaelball2529 thats kind of broken also the detect magic pulse is an action making it impossible due to them not being used on the same turn (after the detect magic users turn the pulse ends) unless a caster is slowed and takes 2 turns to cast but even then they would have to cast as a reaction which has to happen outside of their turn and they would no longer perceive the spell being cast
Another thing to consider: If you put levels into arcane trickster, you can cast mage hand legardemain (invisible mage hand that can pickpocket people, amongst other things), and if you silent cast this you can do it right in front of people while talking to them, useful for theft, or simply holding a mirror behind someone to cheat in a card game, idk, I haven't thought of a lot of uses for it but I think it could be a fun combo for a creative player
Our gaming group loves one-shot adventures. One session that was especially memorable was a temple so radiated with magical energy that any time a player or NPC used a spell, we rolled on the Wild Magic Table. Every fight was chaotic and fun!
@@Darknight4434 Its in the Unearthed Arcana, which makes it official but beta. So its really DM discretion if they'll allow it. I'm playing one in my campaign and I love using his natural ability to light things on fire by touching them.
@@Darknight4434 Way late to this, but if you want a similar kind of effect but without UA, a Fire Genasi Draconic Bloodline can have a similar idea. Does it a bit different, but you still get to light things on fire by touching them thanks to the Fire Genasi's Produce Flame cantrip (and Burning Hands at level 3)
The way I fixed the storm sorcerer was I told my player that if they wanted to have the effect of other spells but substitute the damage with lightning damage, they could. So Fireball because lightning ball, firebold became stormbolt, and so on. It was better than limiting them to the few lighting spells.
Levant i feel like those two weren’t the best option, 3rd level Lightning Bolt also deals 8d6 area damage on a dex save, it’s just shaped differently. The cantrip Shocking Grasp’s damage die is a d8, which is only one less average damage than firebolt’s d10 (albeit at melee range; though it has two riders)
Alternatively, I would just let them pick lightning/thunder spells from any/all spell lists. There is roughly 1 good lightning/thunder spell for each main spell level which is really all you need, but several are only on the druid spell list. I would also consider extending the class features to wind-based spells as well and again giving them access to the druid spell list to get them. Reflavouring spell damage types will just make your storm sorcerer play the same as any other sorcerer which takes the fun out of different archetypes.
In this type of situation, i would allow all energy spells to be used much like chromatic orb, in this case, be cast as lightning/electric. Please follow the spells dimesions, e.g. touch, bolt, splash, cone, line, sphere, 120 degrees from hands; just change the damage type. Flame Bolt could be Electric Bolt (1d10) lightning damage. Effects such as freezing, burning, loss of healing ability, etc should be worked out ahead of time and not during play. Try to keep the spells as close to the original as possible without breaking energy rules. Flaming bolt would do the same damage as freezing bolt, but catch things on fire instead.
I'm currently playing a Kobold "dragon" sorcerer who believes he is a true gold dragon punished by bahamut to hunt the forces of Tiamat. I have been playing him as believing his sorcery comes from bahamut himself so he is practically a cleric but I didn't like the abilities a cleric or divine sorcerer got
@@mildsatyr3731 Here's my kobold dragon sorcerer's backstory: A gypsy fortune teller bought what she thought was a pseudodragon egg. The old gnome used her magic to incubate and hatch the egg, but was disappointed to discover that the tiny creature, while clearly dragon-kin, was in fact a kobold. Though since his colour was extraordinary, she kept him as a combination of pet and servant. Orgo often pretended to be the fortune teller's familiar, while he was small enough for this ruse. She used the tiny kobold to assist her in the act which kept her from too often using the true divination that drained so much vitality from her. The young kobold's arcane potential eventually flourished. The fortune teller started teaching what she could of her magic, this knowledge Orgo soaked up like a sponge. However, Orgo quickly mastered all she had to teach, though they found that his magic was innate sorcery rather than the studied wizardry used by his teacher. As he grew older, Orgo learned that his small size and magic have proved to be quite helpful when assisting the gypsies in some of their more nefarious activities. Orgo also became skilled at converting stolen jewelry so it could be easily sold. Orgo recently left the gypsies and has been using his arcane talents to make a living.
RazzlePhoxx that’s so funny cause I’m playing a kobold sorcerer who is the son of a adult gold dragon but was cursed by Tiamat to have it’s child turn into a kobold. Kobold sorcerers are fun!
I once joined a new group whose characters were level 6. I rolled up my first ever sorcerer and joined the game. First spell he casts is a wild magic surge. I rolled. Fireball. My character was no more.
Sorry @That One Person, I had to laugh at that - I’ve also had a few short-lived characters over the years. The most humiliating death was a first-level who got eaten by a pack of wild dogs. 🥲🦴💩
One extra feat I'd like to recommend is either Magic Initiate: Sorcerer for a permanent extra spell known that you can the use with your regular slots OR Warlock for Mage Armour and get pretty much the same thing + access to Eldritch Blast. It helped me a ton in getting the spell list I wanted for my Divine Soul bro :)
@@patricklyons794 Seeing in magical darkness is pretty situation specific though, one could make a similar suggestion for a lot of other invocations. Unlike Eldritch Blast, which can literally solve any problem you'll ever have. (kidding, kinda)
@@elbruces Well, if YOU have the spell, then you could drop the darkness on your self, so you have advantage on all of your attacks, and those who ALSO can't see in magical darkness have disadvantage against you.
Imagine playing a Dragonborn/Half-Dragon Sorceror with a different Draconic Ancestry from the type of Dragonborn/Half-Dragon they are. Could end up with two different Breath weapons, elemental resistances, etc. Could even make for some fun RP potential if they happen to discover that they have draconic ancestry from both a Chromatic and Metallic dragon (for instance, a Black Dragon & Gold Dragon could give them a Fire & Acid Breath Weapon or possibly a "combination" Breath Weapon like Acid "steam" or "Boiling acid").
I am rediscovering D&D after 20 years of not playing and your guides have been enormously helpful to get a grip on the latest rules. Keep up the great work!
Stop thinking just fireball when you think sorcerer. Think Twin Haste, Still Counterspell on counter fights, Heightned control spells (Slow, Banishment S2...) so many possibilities.
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I'm playing a sorcerer who got his wild magic powers from being sent to the elemental planes, so he was granted power by a water and a fire elemental. The way i implimented it with my GM was that he's got split personality, so sometimes he's casting water spells and sometimes he's casting fire spells, he's got 2 different spell lists and swap between them when i roll a 20 on a wild magic surge. His looks and personality also changes, and he gains the ability to channel the element through his hands. He can deal 1 fire, or cold, damage per minute to anything he's holding, and he can also produce dim light or 1dl of water per minute if he concentrates on it. Thiese effects get's sped up to take 6 seconds if he's just cast a spell that deals damage of that element. I think it's a super cool concept we've come up with, we also had his body transform into a tiefling to cope with the split personality, but i dont know how balanced it is :)
I started a new campaign as a sorcerer and this was sound advice. I really loved the role playing advice in particular! As a sorcerer you can be very engaging!
You have not been a Wild Magic Sorcerer until you drop a fireball on your whole level 1 party 10 minutes into the game. That was retconned immediately.
I have a player who plays a Wild Magic Sorcerer and I roll on the table every time he casts a non-cantrip spell (and if he is under a lot of stress I roll it on cantrips too) and it is incredible. Everybody at the table loves it.
@@joshlapple8429 Yeah that happened to us in the intro sessions of Curse of Strahd. Our WM sorcerer blew up with fireball once, and with 3d10 necrotic damage for everyone in 30' another time. I'm not sure how we survived that.
In an undead-themed campaign, I have a backup character who is a flesh golem, (essentially Frankenstein's monster as a race) whose sorcerous power comes from all of the deceased people she was sewn together with. However, that manifests itself as being a wild magic sorcerer, and whenever she loses control she literally comes apart at the seams. She's adorable.
Currently running in a round robin with friends. Playing a Phoenix Blooded Tiefling. He's actually an educated ladies man because he comes from a city where magic is taught by all magic casters in a master/apprentice relationship. He may not know the particulars of his he inherited his bloodline, but he knows what to expect from it and is supremely, almost arrogantly confident in his skill. It also helps he performs in a circus as a Fire-dancer. Angus is fun.
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When I DM'ed the Tyranny of Dragons campaign, one of my player created a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer with an... unusual origin. Deron, a normal human studying to become a wizard had his hometown burned to the ground by a Red Dragon. Some time, later he kidnapped one of the dragon's wyrmlings, and used it in a supremely dark ritual to steal its power. This is what turned him into a Sorcerer. All I could tell the player about this concept was 'That's messed up!'
To make it even more messed up, what if that Red Dragon was legitimately his Draconic Ancestor and the Wyrmling could have turned out to therefore be his half-sibling and it wasn't actually the *ritual* that turned him into a Sorceror but rather being exposed to the flames of a Red Dragon's breath weapon?
Calling a careful and empowered fireball down on your parties position is the closest combat equivalent to the Vietnam war that can be recreated in D&D.
Works pretty well if the rest of your party in range is all monks and/or rogues over 7th level though, so they take no damage on the guaranteed save you're giving them.
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As I was listening to the two of you talking about potential origin stories, I got to thinking: The Tritons' inherent ability to influence air and water, backed by the raw magical might of a born sorcerer, would produce a true prodigy; a creature capable of summoning forth ice and lightning on a whim, and who would one day learn to unleash the rage of the storm. I think I know what my next character is going to be. ^^
After not having played since I had hair, and Deities and Demigods had Lankhmar, I am finding your videos so incredibly useful. Luckily my DM is letting me change things around with my Draconic bloodline Tiefling Sorcerer to reflect my learning curve. This video was fantastic.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but quickened spell only allows you to cast spells with a casting time on an ACTION as a bonus action, not any spell you know. Love all of your content! Just wanted to mention.
My favorite sorcerer from fiction is Belgarath the Sorcerer from Eddings' The Belgariad and Mallorean novels; those books are great inspiration. “Have you ever noticed that? We base our assessment of the intelligence of others almost entirely on how closely their thinking matches our own. I'm sure that there are people out there who violently disagree with me on most things, and I'm broad-minded enough to concede that they might possibly not be *complete* idiots, but I much prefer the company of people who agree with me. You might want to think about that.” David Eddings, Belgarath the Sorcerer
My favorite sorcerer I had was Tym, the draconic tiefling. Tym comes from the village of Shimmerscale, a village of tieflings hidden away in the Sunset Mountains and watched over by the great ancient gold wyrm, La'allia (Or as everyone in the village calls her 'Nana'). Tym went out into the world to see the sights and broaden his horizons, only to get caught up in a chain of events that would have him enlarging a Cleric to 600 ft tall, fighting alongside a goblin monk named Grundle Punch, and falling in love with the leader of a group of Yuan-Ti heretics as they fought shadow dragons and dracoliches to prevent them from releasing Char onto the world..
I'm currently playing a Shadow Sorcerer; he was a Quarter Master on a pirate ship, and the captain grew jealous of his popularity with the crew. He accused him of mutiny and challenged him to a duel, which the captain won; he stabbed him through the heart and dumped him in the icy sea. The last thing he remembers is the crushing darkness of the deep, until he awoke on a rocky shore, changed. When he casts a spell, his hair and clothes begin to billow and move as if he were still underwater. I haven't specified who or what brought him back and gave him his power, leaving that up to the DM :)
The way I handled the Wild Magic Sorcerer when I was DMing was that the Sorcerer had to roll a D20 when they casted anything stronger than a Cantrip, and they triggered a Surge when they got a 1. Also I personally gave Wild Magic Sorcerers a homebrew spell based off of something from Baldur's Gate 2, Reckless Dweomer was a first level spell that I had Wild Magic Sorcerers come with from level 1 that didn't count against their Spells Known, it could be Upcast and when you casted it you could pick *any* spell on the Sorcerer list of that level and Reckless Dweomer would copy that spell (I.E. 6th level slot is any 6th level spell, but Reckless Dweomer couldn't be used to cast a 6th level Fireball) without fail... but it *always* triggered a WIld Magic Surge in addition to the normal effects of that spell
These days, Sorcerer is now my dark horse favorite full-caster class and my second favorite class after Paladin!! I also now reallly think of them as superheroes in the world of DnD, as their powers are so very theirs.
Me as a Draconic bloodline: "So yeah my dad was a bard and he encountered a dragon on one of his travels.......... he got a nat 20 on the seduction role"
The best rogue I've made was one with 7 levels of Sorcerer, using the Shadow origin. That grants my mutli-classed rogue 120 ft Darkvision, and the ability to spend 2 sorcery points to cast Darkness and be able to see through it. Rather than taking damage dealing spells, I took spells that could disable foes with Sleep and Hypnotic Pattern, add movement spells like Misty Step and Dimension Door, as well as spells like Spider Climb and Gaseous Form for added utility and movement. Plus taking Subtle Spell and Distant Spell made her even more cunning in how she uses her spells. So taking some levels of Sorcerer can really help someone really bolster up their primary other class as well. One common tactic I'd do with my Rogue/Sorcerer Carmen, is she'd casually talk to the guards like a lost tourist, and as she's talking, spending one sorcery point to cast Subtle Metamagic Sleep to make them fall asleep without them noticing that she's casting a spell. Likewise with Suggestion.
First, I wanna say that I believe you guys are AWESOME.. You're very informative,succinct & enjoyable to listen to. The statement about racial memory really hit home for a variant race,Thri-Kreen (nomad people) character that I wanna make (Tohr-Kreen=civilized people ;J' ez aka Black Ant) from the Spelljammer books. They used to have racial memories in 2e. I'm unsure of which sorcerous origin,as of yet. Aberrant mind,Clockwork Soul, or the Draconic Bloodline are the three I'm stuck on. I'm leaning towards Draconic Bloodline for the bonus to ac (Kreen start with 13 + dex mod) & extra hit points. Wildspacer gives +2 per level..
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I saw a fun sorcerer story once. She was a wild magic sorcerer and wanted to learn to control it. So the party would occasionally find clues for making accessories for removing specific effects off the chart. Also recipes for potions that did the same thing but only temporarily.
Always take 1 or 2 levels of wizard, you get more cantrip spells and a ritual book you can fill and cast from all day. Also I go evoker for the always on and free careful spell meta magic that is better than the one I have to pay for. Plus it always makes thematic sense that you would want to learn to control your power by training with a local mage (wizard).
2 lvls warlock (for the Charisma on Eldritch blast & Devil's sight for the super darkvison) & pact of the tome (gives you EVEN more cantrips from any spell list and gives you ritual casting.) IT fits with theme too, since you're basically a being of magical might and one day, found someone even more powerful than you and struck a deal with them, to gain even more strength.
I definitely need to try playing a sorcerer sometime. I think the limitation of spell-variety is what has kept me at bay, but the roleplaying opportunity really is too good to pass up...Sounds like what I'd need is a more long-term prep for what kind of spellcaster I'd want to be, and which spells I'll take and swap at higher levels. Thanks for the tips guys--another banger!
Nerdy- -Kat129 currently playing one in a revised version of Curse of Strahd, can confirm it is awesome. I play a Divine Soul Aasimar whose tribe worshipped He-Who-Was, the dead God of Humanity and Redemption. As the last surviving member of my tribe after a demon attack, I am the only person in the world who still worships him, and my magic is the only proof he exists. Concept awesome and now I pick pretty much only cleric spells as a support sorcerer. Add subtle spell for roleplay that sometimes divine magic just happens around me and you can really impact the world
Agreed. I'm playing one now myself and it's an intense experience! She's slowly trying to come to terms with her dual natures, trying to balance the compassion and humility of her Human side with the rigid morality and hatred of evil of her Celestial side. She's well aware that her existence becomes a target for evil entities, so she's tried her best to masquerade as a normal Human and a legit member of the priesthood, but there have been some emergencies when she's needed to use her Aasimar abilities to protect innocent people. There have already been rumors about an angel coming to defend the royal family. (Oops.) One of these days the girl's going to get found out, and it will be glorious. Most of the party is aware of her Celestial nature, and they like to good-naturedly tease her by calling her Lady or Saint because she hates being elevated or accorded titles or honorifics. I left her heritage in the hands of the DM. She doesn't know everything, but there is a strong implication that her father is a Celestial of immense power. While she wants to know where she comes from, she almost doesn't want to find her father because she's afraid of what she will find. He left her mother before she was born. Does he know she exists, and would he even care if he did know? Was she born purely so the gods could have a champion in the world and nothing more? Does he have expectations of her, and is she meeting them? Is he a pompous, arrogant jerk? I'm slowly trying to build her into a "servant leader" type, so I'm starting to focus on support and healing abilities while keeping a little bit of blasting in case of emergency. It's difficult with the limited spell slots, to say the least! Thank Saint Cuthbert for the Healer feat! She's actually been a departure from my usual characters in terms of build. Usually I like to arrange stats, skills, spells, and the like so I can be effective in the role I've chosen. This time, I'm specifically choosing everything with roleplay in mind. She has a 20 charisma, 18 wisdom and 14 intelligence, but a 13 dex, 11 con and 10 strength because she's an actual priest, but never excelled at physical activities. Nearly all of her spells are divine. Her acolyte background and skills were based on her character concept of a divine spellcasting prodigy scooped up by the church at a very early age. She may not be the most effective character, mechanics wise, but she's one of my favorites of all time from a roleplay perspective. Her character development has been nothing short of incredible.
I plan to play a Divine Soul Aasimar for my next campaign. First half of the campaign will be focused on social situations and schemes in a big city, but the second half will go deep in combats to save the world from a great evil. Can you reccomend me some spells? I'd like to find a balance between a support sorcerer and a blaster sorcerer, focusing on the first one at the beginning. I was thinking about Healing Word and Shield in level 1, besides Bless. At level 2, I'd take Guiding Bolt, and at level 3, Suggestion with subtle spell metamagic. What do you think?
@@Reansel Sanctuary is hella underrated, if you're doing support. Anyone who wants to attack you has to make a wisdom save first (which you could heighten) before even attempting an attack roll.
That combo is also good for dipping into a few multiclass Warlock (divine patron) levels. Your Aasimar spirit guide can double as your patron. And your Pact of the Chain familiar can zip around the battlefield delivering your touch-range buffs and heals.
I'm currently playing a Tiefling Divine Soul Sorcerer. It's an interesting combination to play. The intensely conflict he had is almost literally haven't a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other. His main goal is to find how his race was created and maybe a way to undo it so others won't have to suffer as he has.
Also sorcerers can use prestidigitation in order to heal someone via using it to create a salt shaker trinket and pour its contents on wounds if a DM deems it playable logic! Or for cauterizing!
One of my favorite ideas is a tiefling divine soul sorcerer who's dad made a demonic pact to keep them safe before they were born and the mom prayed for the gods to always protect them
Did some looking around and found that there's roughly 15 fire spells give or take one or two. You can get just about all the fire spells if you do the whole dropping and picking up spells every level when applicable. You can also pick up roughly all the fire cantrips if you take a feat or a race that has access to the druid only fire cantrip.
I’m thinking of making a sorcerer that gets really angry, really easily, and when they get angry things just start randomly exploding. Maybe have them like a fury, responsible for punishing sinners, and when they see a sinner they get inexplicably angry? I’m not sure yet, but I think it might be fun. Although the fury thing might be a pain in the rear for the dm and any rogues or darker characters in the party.
@@TuckBolt im currently playing a 3.5 campaign in which i play a gnome wizard named surtr. hes a total pyromaniac thats chaotic neutral. i often get told by my dm if you do that youll set this house/mansion/whatever else place you ppl are in right now on fire... my reaction is always the same. i loudly shout EXACTLY! althou i did once respond with the meme "i didnt ask how big the room is i said i use fireball"! my party seldomly apreciates these shenanigans but i think they have goten used to it.
This was incredibly helpful 6 years later! Thank you for all the guide! I chose to make a sea elf, sage. I cant wait to use twin spell and polymorph! These tips were epic!
I'm playing a Aberrant Mind Sorcerer who was hit with a vision of his great grandma who urges him to do good at all costs and originally gave him his first taste of sorcerer powers. He spoke to this figure in his mind out loud one too many times and was locked away. While in prison another mysterious voice came to him and promised great power and freedom. Inevitably he was freed from prison and now my character is torn between his visions from his great grandmother and the ominous voice who gives him power (all the spells you gain from aberrant mind come from him). The two forces vie for power in his mind and now I get to play as Kronk the sorcerer with an "angel" and a "demon" on his shoulders. Tons of RP potential, great story tie in options with the DM, one of my favorite characters to date.
I love that. I'm actually rolling an Aberrant Mind in case my Fiend Warlock dies in an Out of the Abyss campaign. Her power actually comes from the Madness that is permeating the Underdark (she's a Drow Descent Half-Elf, so she was kicked from her home). The must affected her strangely, so she's forever insane and hears voices inside her head, and she now has Psionic Magic.
I love playing Draconic bloodline scorcerers and my favorite is having a part red scaled human who became the first in his family line by unknowingly impressing a disguised Dragon god Bohammit at a very young age and his motivation is becomming as stong as this "mystery mage" in the childs perspective
My favorite sorcerer I played was in Pathfinder: a wildblooded Sage sorcerer, who used INT for her casting stat. She was incredibly shy and bumbled through every social encounter, but she loved books and was very well read. She aced every Knowledge check
I love playing as a storm sorcerer. The main reason I like storm sorcerer is that they get full immunity, not just resistance, to lighting and thunder damage. And the flight ability that they have is a lot faster and can also used to make your team fly. Also flying through magical means seems to be less tiring than fly using wing like dragon bloodlines so storm sorcerer can basically fly indefinitely after gaining the feature. The RP moment with this bloodline is really good. I have a lot of fun with the background on how my sorcerer got the power. for other storm sorcerer and other dragon sorcerer that's not fire dragon, you need to try your best to convince your DM to allow reflavor of few spell so you can get the necessary damage type spell that you need. You just need to change the damage type of the spell.
I don't know how you would feel about this, but I think 2 levels of Tempest cleric works really well with storm sorcerer. I would say 6 levels, but I love the immunity to lightning/thunder, and your flying, along with making the rest of your party fly for an hour. That power is pretty much too good to pass up. The ability to supercharge a Chain Lightning (along with a minor heal spell) seems too good to pass up.
I would love to have a draconic sorcerer with purple dragon ancestry but with the current edition I don't think it would work. Not without a lot of homebrewing, like adding some more energy based spells. The only energy spell I've come across is protection from energy.
This video is a bit older and you'll probably never see my comment, but I love your content. Dungeon Dudes is my one-stop shop when I'm trying to learn something new about this game. You guys explain everything so clearly, while also balancing roleplay with maximizing potential. I love it. Thanks again, guys!
Freakin' Qara. Edit: the current campaign I am joining is very low magic. I have never considered being a sorcerer ... until this video. Perhaps I will try it out on a random roll20 group. Thanks dudes for the inspiration!
I'm in the same boat, I am in a low magic campaign and my sorcerer is the first arcane user in 2000 years. Just to make things more chaotic he is a young boy that grows during the campaign (he physically ages with every level) so he doesn't exactly have much restraint.
Im playing a Storm now and its alot of fun. The lack of lightning damage spells lets you get creative with some ice spells and my DM gave me buffed wind spells to get away with fun RP stuff. I played a Teifling with horns that would conduct electricity. My high charisma was reflected in making the ambient temperature of a room be more comfortable and have a pleasant calm breeze. Then a party member started giving me a gold to act as the party thermostat lol
Hey yall just subbed. I've played one sorcerer and it was subclassed from rogue but the general story for him was he was a mercenary scout/enforcer and one day while scouting for a nobleman's trip he got surrounded and "slain" and kidnapped for sacrifice his latent ability kicked in. Receiving a weird wooden skeleton key(spell casting focus) in his belongings when he came too tied to a to an alter after a party freed him... but he has amnesia of before that and doesnt know what the key is for/to and is investigating it and his past while being loyal to his liberators
A great mystery can be both a cool explanation for why your character has unique powers, and a very cool motivation for them to adventure. What eventually happened to your character? Thanks for subscribing!
Dungeon Dudes , well... I ended up switching jobs and being on an incompatible schedule for that group before we could play that out but I'm keeping the character in the back pocket for another group... gonna have to reroll stats though the DM was very lenient on the stat rolling. 5d6 reroll lowest then all 1s. Might switch to a warlock subclass though for some cool story in-fighting with a friends paladin.. tho
Bummer, I would be very interested on how that turned out. How many levels of rogue were you planning to take? I find I am fascinated playing sorcerers and doing as many variant builds with them makes me happy 😊
My wizard thinks of sourcorers, as having an entitment complex. Wisards had to work and study, to master the archane arts. Sourcorers? Nah, they're just "born with it!"
I just figured out a sorcerer i've been wanting to make for a while, A divine soul sorcerer that got his power from Eldath goddess of peace. being her herald he can only use non-damaging spells making him a pure support caster. i know it's a handycap, but i love it.
i love wild magic, i wasn't too sure about it at first, but the first time i rolled on the surge table i got the result that says roll on this table every round for the next 10 rounds. everything was so crazy and awesome. we were 1st level and just trying to escape the drow prison in Out of the Abyss- we weren't doing well until the surges summoned a unicorn, 3 drow burst into lightning, i turned blue, got surrounded by grease, the unicorn started fighting and was able to teleport me out of immediate danger then we ran, i got polymorphed into a sheep, but we escaped. it was the best start to a campaign ever!
I just wonder how someone with this kind of chaotic magic would RP a lawful orientation... "I TRY to follow the rules, but things just keep happening!"
An important thing to remember about Storm Sorcerer is that you get bonuses for both lightning /and/ thunder damage spells. So, moves like thunderclap and thunderwave are very viable options here!
My DM wanted me to play the divine soul as our campaign is focused around various religions. This is the first time I've played a Sorcerer and I have been having a blast so far. I'm glad I came to this video though as I still don't understand some of the things offered in the Sorcerer class.
what i did was multiclass a bard and wild magic sorcerer. the bard loved using spells during her perfomances so at time she would roll on the wild magic table :D
i loooove the divine soul sorcerer ! I didn't even realize it was an option until this video and im so happy xanathar's brought a divine spellcaster who IS a spellcaster! Cleric's fine but I love the idea of a spellcaster who's able to mix a lethal amount of damage with potent healing
I want to try making a D&D version of Iron Man. Warforged Envoy Storm Sorcerer 18/ Tempest Cleric 2. Free heavy armor proficiency and the ability to wear it with any strength without penalty. Automatic maximization of any lightning spell with your cleric ability. The ability to fly without using concentration. Plus all the metamagic goodies, and a couple of healing spells taken with the cleric levels. Healing Variant: Life Cleric 1/ Divine Soul Sorcerer 19. Can also fly without concentration. I would take Magic Initiate or Ritual Caster to get an Owl to deliver healing spells/ give advantage on attack rolls
Hello! I'm playing my first session tomorrow as a wild magic, tiefling sorceror. I'm so excited! Thank you for being the first video i watch to make sense of DND. love you!
Thrilled for these awesome Class Guides! Starting a sorcerer closely modeled after Scarlet Witch (began with favorite fire spells and realized I could focus instead on lightning/chill touch spells and cantrips depending on campaign) and chose half-elf and hopped onto here and lo n behold, it's a top choice! Love the flexibility and versatility of the sorcerer for players wanting to wade or dive into arcane magic use without melee, and without the intimidation of say the wizard, maybe the warlock, and definitely the bard, for me! Also love the main class features to offset Wild Magic Surge unpredictability, Metamagic is excellent, Fonts of Magic good way to learn spell resource management. Finally, Sorcerous Restoration! Good matching choice of spells! Misty Step and Dimension Door!
I hate that 5e sorcerers have spells that require material components, it doesn't fit the description of the class or flavour the fluff seems to be going for at all. Don't remember how 3 or 3.5 did it and we didn't have them back when we played AD&D, but I think 4e actually nailed them! I like that wizards who prepare spells need material components, that fits the arcane scholar or book magician type. I also think holy symbols, holy water, salt and earth-type components really fits the cleric or the priest-type caster. But no, material components for sorcerers seems really out of place!
I mean, it's not such a big deal if you prepare everything in advance (buy extra material and pouches etc). It also adds a limit, so nobody goes completely mental with too much power.
Totally agree. If this is supposed to be something that comes naturally, that you don’t fully understand at first and can’t always control then where/how would learn V,S,M? That totally ruins the image of something like Storm from X-Men. I feel like this was a compromise to keep consistency of game mechanics with other spell classes, rather than being true to the concept of the sorcerer.
@@nonbiri6966 My sorcerer has dragon ancestors, so in that case it's the parents who taught her what they knew. For other origins, it might involve a lot of experimenting? At first using materials and then, the more they practise and understand magic, the less materials they require to cast. It's more realistic than just "oh cool! I was born with magic, so... Fireboll! Magic hand!! Magic darts!"
@@margaritatabellini8806 but then they might as well just be the same as wizard since their magic is supposed to be innate as in they do not need any outside source
my level three assassin was cursed with lycanthropy during a werewolf hunt, subsequent to that but before i first turned, i had my hitpoints reduced to 0 during a bandit ambush. the curse has since been lifted but my character has noticed strange feelings and nightmares. my brush with death while still cursed with lycanthropy seems to have put me in touch with the shadowfell and left me with a small open channel of magical energy. the onset is subtle. other party members might notice that i don't seem to breath in my sleep (i'm not aware of this), i'm alarmed but haven't told anyone that my heart beats once per minute; i am also cool to the touch (i just think it's poor circulation) and i don't bleed much when I am injured. finally (has yet to happen) my powers will first manifest when i really need a distraction during a stealthy infiltration and an illusion or cacophony of shattered glass will occur at the opposite end of a hallway or some such. use of powers will make me feel out of phase with reality and take a lot out of me, my voice will change and my eyes will go black.
Why has no one mentioned a BOOYAGH BOOYAGH BOOYAGH. Wild Sorcerer Goblin. Take Chaos Bolt for your first spell, and take empowered spell for metamagic. You literally become chaos incarnate!
Playing a gold dragonborn sorcerer, absolutely love him! he does a lot of damage, and he pretends to be a fire god. the dm hates me when i use prestidigitation and create fire around me and scare the enemies.
My very first character was a Storm Sorcerer Tempest Domain Cleric to much success. I was "wave-dashing" every where, popping off Max hits (our party [Hunter Ranger, Transmutation Wizard, and myself] of 3 lvl 3 PCs halved the Young Green Dragon in Lost Mine of Phandelver in under 1 Round, after we all survived a point blank dragon breath attack.) The damage difference was the Wrath of the Storm reaction ability the Tempest Cleric unlocks. Tempestuous Magic + Thunderwave is the Bread & Butter.
what about Giant Soul, Pyromancer, or phoenix sorcererous origins? Also an idea i had was for a Sorcerer for wild magic origins was that he had gotten the aging down effect from the table happen to him so many times that his catchphrase can easily be "I have gone through puberty [however many times it's been] you know nothing of Hell "
Awesome video dudes. Sorcerer has always been a favorite class of mine. There's just so much versatility and nearly unlimited potential for RPing with them.
There's a homebrew ice sorcery origin that I'm using in my game that is really fun. The wizard in my group who didn't know what kind of sorcerer I was asked me if had any fire aoe spells and I just burst out laughing.
My first ever character was a tiefling sorcerer (still in a campaign with her). Due to her backstory she's usually fairly reserved and lets the party bard do the talking, but has paired up with him to whip out some great traps/deceptions and has talked the group out of 2 fights, one of them fairly dangerous. Such a fun class to play!
My favorite moment with a wild magic sorcerer was when we were level 2 or 3 and he rolled the result that would cast reincarnate on him if he died in a short time period and then the next turn he rolled a again and exploded in a fireball died and reincarnated on the spot.
That is amazing.
This just happened to me during my party's session on friday
That gives me the idea for a sorcerer subclass based on the Phoenix
Talk about a "Dormammu! I’ve come to bargain!" Moment 😅
What did he reincarnate into?
Played a wild magic sorcerer who was ashamed of how he couldn’t control it. Wanted so badly to be a wizard he carried around a “spell book” and bluffed every time he cast a spell to convince people he was one. The party knew it was BS but pretended to believe him as a joke.
“Hey Doonigan, you got a spell for this in your secret book?”
“Uhhhhh...” *page is a doodle of a mindflayer* “Nope.”
“Weird, this just looks like a diary entry...”
“It’s a cipher so dumbasses like you can’t decode my spells. Don’t read it though.”
“This is a shopping list.”
“No, it’s a spell materials list.”
That just sounds fun
I love him
I for one always use bbq pork rinds when casting wish.
SorryBones I love this hehe
that's awesome!! hehe
you had me at "fireball"
Any spellcaster with the sliver of respect for themselfes who can choose Fireball, will choose Fireball xD
@@krulen12 ... so if you play cleric you should only play light cleric so that you get fireball is what I am hearing :p jk jk
@@tjcofer7517 OK, maybe the cleric can be the exception.... but it doesn't to have it though :P
My Lore Mastery Wizard prefers the likes of Counterspell, Slow, and Lightning Bolt.
Hold up is Kelly related to Sean Mclaughlin?
1:30 Introduction 7:20 Ability Scores 9:19 Potential Races You Might Want To Pick 10:54 Proficiency 12:18 Certain Skills Recommended 14:34 Spell Save DC/Spell Attack Modifier
15:18 What Makes The Sorcerer Different/17:10 Metamagic
21:22 What Kind Of Sorcerer Do You Want To Be From Level 1 (Starting with Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer) 22:25 Wild Magic Sorcerer 23:50 Shadow Sorcerer 25:04 Divine Soul Sorcerer
25:54 Storm Sorcerer
26:41 Spells 28:25 Damage Spells 29:37 Battle Field Control (Crowd Control) 30:10 Utility
33:07 Ideas for Background
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Also: 13:00 Feats
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Harry Potter, is called a wizard, but is actually a sourcorer.
Dr.Strange is called a sorcerer, but is actually a wizard.
Doctor strange, at least in the comic book sense, is a warlock :)
Yea and according to the rules of soccer you can’t pick up the ball but football players do it. Different game different rules
Doctor strange is a warlock
Deathcangame2
Different game,the ball is still called a ball and the goal is still get the ball to one side opposite to the one you start on with the rest of your team.
My point:Different sources but they still never specifically defined their terms to be different then ours and act a lot like ours so it is safe to assume they mean the same thing or at least are meant to.
@@MichaelDBruce why? Is it because his pact with Eternity?
Every time I watch one of these videos I want to make a new character using the class in the video...I guess that means you guys are doing it right.
That's the goal! Every time we make one of these videos, Kelly gets all excited about another character concept too!
@@DungeonDudes if you can get yourselfs hyped about an idea after a video then you just _know_ its gotta be good!
Yeah, my problem at the moment is that I have no group but my phone is full of builds.
@@martinkadlec6070 same here. I’m currently sitting on acouple myself. My favorite is a homebrew character sorcerer I made who’s a half lightning draconian half changeling. Seems like it’ll be hella fun to play but the way I point specked him he’s a min max of charisma, con and dex with intelligence and wisdom falling way behind. I’ll have to play him like a extremely tanky and elusive Gilderoy Lockheart from HP or Zapp Brannigan from futurama lmfao
subtle spell can actually be very good. It allows you to cast within the area of a silence effect, and it makes any spell without material components uncounterable, because the rival spell caster will have no indication of the casting. I believe there were sage advice rulings from Jeremy Crawford on both uses.
My DM also tends to make NPCs very suspicious of any casting they witness because in a world of magic, he reasons people would view a caster chanting arcane words and drawing symbols in the air like we might view someone brandishing a weapon or pouring a strange powder into someone's drink. It raises eyebrows.
Subtle spell is extremely useful, and I agree, many players don't understand that in a world of magic, spellcasting is something even normal people might be able to recognize: even if they can't discern what the spell is or how to do it. In my worlds, arcane somatic and verbal components of *genuine* spellcasting are obvious: somatic components cause arcane sigils to dance along your fingertips (al la Dr Strange), and your voice takes on a resonant tone when you cast a spell. This doesn't happen if you're a sorcerer with subtle spell!
Especially the subtle suggestion in public like saying “Can I have a free drink” instead of chanting magic words to get a free drink
If youre getting into charlatanry to go with your charisma, subtle spell is a must-have. You can do a lot combining illusions and deception checks.
In my early days of D&D I played a wild sorcerer who was completely oblivious to the potential of his power. Instead of working to figure out the origin of his magic or how he can wield it, he just tried to figure out how to turn into a potted plant. He was overjoyed when his wild magic ended up turning him into one.
That's brilliant!
I love that and I love your pfp
Depending on adversaries, Subtle spell can be really powerful in combat. Since letting someone cast without any somatic or verbal components will make it close to impossible to
counterspell them.
Immensely frustrating if the BBEG just teleports out, and the a party arcane caster goes: “I cast counterspell”. and GM goes, you never saw a spell being cast.
I think that counterspell thing with subtle spell is debateable and up to the DM since some spells you can see coming towards you. But anyway subtle spell is also suprisingly good for combat because you can cast spells in any situation where other casters couldnt. You can cast with your hands tied, or your mouth gagged, or with an ogre bearhugging you in a grapple. So combined with a teleport spell the only way to capture you alive is sticking you in a no magic zone lol. Or you can blast something holding you.
The only way I think some one could counterspell subtle spells is by being used the effects of detect magic. So they could see the magic power building up within them as they prepare to cast a spell.
@@michaelball2529 detect magic is a. A concentration spell. B. An action to activate even if they have it up. And C. The pulse only lasts untill the end of their turn
@@_NobodySpecial_ A. Yes it is. B. I fail to see how this has any effect on counterspell viability. C. No it doesn't have a pulse that lasts until the end of your turn? Idk what you're getting at, but if you have detect magic up, you just always detect magic.
@SaviorOfNirn okay?
I feel like you underestimated the power a charisma character casting subtle mass suggestion while casually holding their crystal focus in their pocket amongst a crowd. Or the fact that it is a feature unique only to sorcerers. Even an Arcane Trickster with greater invisibility has to chant verbal components in a clear voice, which would be easy to hear. Subtle sorcerers with urchin background can sneak up with a rogue (or just be the rogue, honestly), twin greater invisibility the both of them, walk in to a room and (depending on if the npcs can pass a check to hear the two) cast a spell without anyone even understanding how it's happening (depending on spell descriptions. Obviosuly rays and spells like fireball have a line pointing back to the caster).
Also, the ability to blatantly ignore the effects of silence for 1 spell point at high levels is awesome. Or the ability to cast a spell against someone while underwater or being strangled. The argument can also be made that a Subtle Sorcerer with Greater Invisibility is immmune to Counterspell thanks to Xanathar's rules on "Perceiving a Caster at Work". Even without Greater Invisibility if the sorcerer is using subtle on a spell without a material comonent (If you can't percieve the caster is casting a spell, you can't trigger the reaction with "when you see a creature within 60 ft cast a spell" because you simply don't see a creature casting a spell)
Honestly, a lot of it depends on how "real" your dm is with the roleplay. For example, two guards bar your entry to the town proper due to a crime of some sort. Sure, you can charm person one of the guards, but before you even cast the spell you chant and wave about. That other guard's not going to sit there and ask questions about what you did to their buddy. They are probably going to pressume hostility and attack. However, walking up to one of the guards while subtle casting Charm Person (only has v and s) then saying "Buddy! I haven't seen you in ages!" is both imperceptible and a free gamble (if they pass the save and don't regard you as a "friendly acquaintance" just do a "oh, sorry friend! Thought you were someone I knew." Sure it realies on some social checks, but it's a good thing charisma is your highest stat)
That was longer than I meant it to be. I just really love Subtle spell. Sorcerers sacrifice versitality and spells on hand (high level Wizards have more spells prepared then sorcs have known at level 20) for the ability to cast a small pool of spells better than other classes can cast those same spells (Twin Polymorph at level 8 to make 2 T Rex's, ie.). For 1 spell point Subtle adds a HUGE amount of versitality for a class that severely lacks in it
Tl;DR An Urchin Sorcerer with Subtle and Quickened as their first two metamagics makes an arguably better (or at least more spellcastery) "Arcane Trickster" than the actual archetype, and it's awesome.
What if someone had cast detect magic could they see the magical power building up to cast a spell their for counterspell it. I only ask because I am letting a player of mine use an ability similar to the subtle spell metamagic. Though his is constant effect on every spell he cast.
@@michaelball2529 thats kind of broken also the detect magic pulse is an action making it impossible due to them not being used on the same turn (after the detect magic users turn the pulse ends) unless a caster is slowed and takes 2 turns to cast but even then they would have to cast as a reaction which has to happen outside of their turn and they would no longer perceive the spell being cast
Another thing to consider:
If you put levels into arcane trickster, you can cast mage hand legardemain (invisible mage hand that can pickpocket people, amongst other things), and if you silent cast this you can do it right in front of people while talking to them, useful for theft, or simply holding a mirror behind someone to cheat in a card game, idk, I haven't thought of a lot of uses for it but I think it could be a fun combo for a creative player
Our gaming group loves one-shot adventures. One session that was especially memorable was a temple so radiated with magical energy that any time a player or NPC used a spell, we rolled on the Wild Magic Table. Every fight was chaotic and fun!
i kinda love the theme of the Phoenix Sorcery. You hover in a storm of fire and assume a god-like state. I think it's awesome
Where is that origin, a homebrew arquetype?
@@Darknight4434 Its in the Unearthed Arcana, which makes it official but beta. So its really DM discretion if they'll allow it. I'm playing one in my campaign and I love using his natural ability to light things on fire by touching them.
@@shadenox8164 thanks
@@Darknight4434 Way late to this, but if you want a similar kind of effect but without UA, a Fire Genasi Draconic Bloodline can have a similar idea. Does it a bit different, but you still get to light things on fire by touching them thanks to the Fire Genasi's Produce Flame cantrip (and Burning Hands at level 3)
The way I fixed the storm sorcerer was I told my player that if they wanted to have the effect of other spells but substitute the damage with lightning damage, they could. So Fireball because lightning ball, firebold became stormbolt, and so on. It was better than limiting them to the few lighting spells.
You should really recommend Circle of the Furies Homebrew class to them. It's so much fun
I also do this with my silver dragon blade drow sorcerer. He loves the idea of cast ardent ray as a frosting ray.
Levant i feel like those two weren’t the best option, 3rd level Lightning Bolt also deals 8d6 area damage on a dex save, it’s just shaped differently. The cantrip Shocking Grasp’s damage die is a d8, which is only one less average damage than firebolt’s d10 (albeit at melee range; though it has two riders)
Alternatively, I would just let them pick lightning/thunder spells from any/all spell lists. There is roughly 1 good lightning/thunder spell for each main spell level which is really all you need, but several are only on the druid spell list. I would also consider extending the class features to wind-based spells as well and again giving them access to the druid spell list to get them. Reflavouring spell damage types will just make your storm sorcerer play the same as any other sorcerer which takes the fun out of different archetypes.
In this type of situation, i would allow all energy spells to be used much like chromatic orb, in this case, be cast as lightning/electric. Please follow the spells dimesions, e.g. touch, bolt, splash, cone, line, sphere, 120 degrees from hands; just change the damage type. Flame Bolt could be Electric Bolt (1d10) lightning damage. Effects such as freezing, burning, loss of healing ability, etc should be worked out ahead of time and not during play. Try to keep the spells as close to the original as possible without breaking energy rules. Flaming bolt would do the same damage as freezing bolt, but catch things on fire instead.
I'm currently playing a Kobold "dragon" sorcerer who believes he is a true gold dragon punished by bahamut to hunt the forces of Tiamat. I have been playing him as believing his sorcery comes from bahamut himself so he is practically a cleric but I didn't like the abilities a cleric or divine sorcerer got
RazzlePhoxx nice, I don’t hear enough stories about Kobold draconic origins sorcerers.
Maybe you could grab him some minor healing with a feat? It could tie into the feels...
@@mildsatyr3731 Here's my kobold dragon sorcerer's backstory:
A gypsy fortune teller bought what she thought was a pseudodragon egg. The old gnome used her magic to incubate and hatch the egg, but was disappointed to discover that the tiny creature, while clearly dragon-kin, was in fact a kobold. Though since his colour was extraordinary, she kept him as a combination of pet and servant.
Orgo often pretended to be the fortune teller's familiar, while he was small enough for this ruse. She used the tiny kobold to assist her in the act which kept her from too often using the true divination that drained so much vitality from her.
The young kobold's arcane potential eventually flourished. The fortune teller started teaching what she could of her magic, this knowledge Orgo soaked up like a sponge. However, Orgo quickly mastered all she had to teach, though they found that his magic was innate sorcery rather than the studied wizardry used by his teacher.
As he grew older, Orgo learned that his small size and magic have proved to be quite helpful when assisting the gypsies in some of their more nefarious activities. Orgo also became skilled at converting stolen jewelry so it could be easily sold.
Orgo recently left the gypsies and has been using his arcane talents to make a living.
RazzlePhoxx that’s so funny cause I’m playing a kobold sorcerer who is the son of a adult gold dragon but was cursed by Tiamat to have it’s child turn into a kobold. Kobold sorcerers are fun!
I once joined a new group whose characters were level 6. I rolled up my first ever sorcerer and joined the game. First spell he casts is a wild magic surge. I rolled. Fireball.
My character was no more.
Sorry @That One Person, I had to laugh at that - I’ve also had a few short-lived characters over the years. The most humiliating death was a first-level who got eaten by a pack of wild dogs. 🥲🦴💩
One of my players is joing my game as a level 6 wild magic sorcerer...
When I saw divine soul I knew there was a thing I had to do. I'm now playing a "white mage" in one of my games.
Yeah it's always nice to see an option for a Sorcerer or Warlock magic source that isn't all dark and edgy.
One extra feat I'd like to recommend is either Magic Initiate: Sorcerer for a permanent extra spell known that you can the use with your regular slots OR Warlock for Mage Armour and get pretty much the same thing + access to Eldritch Blast.
It helped me a ton in getting the spell list I wanted for my Divine Soul bro :)
@Chillinon I'd recommend multiclassing 2 levels of Warlock. That way you get Eldritch Blast, but also Devil's Sight to see in Magical Darkness.
@@patricklyons794 This is my plan for my Wild Magic Sorcerer I'm going to be starting this weekend. Was thinking lvl 3 Warlock for the Pact Boon
Patrick Lyons you could do that with shadow sorcerer so you don’t have to waste sorcerery points on it
@@patricklyons794 Seeing in magical darkness is pretty situation specific though, one could make a similar suggestion for a lot of other invocations. Unlike Eldritch Blast, which can literally solve any problem you'll ever have. (kidding, kinda)
@@elbruces Well, if YOU have the spell, then you could drop the darkness on your self, so you have advantage on all of your attacks, and those who ALSO can't see in magical darkness have disadvantage against you.
red dragonborn, draconic ancestry fire based sorceror... best character i ever played.
Currently playing a (Brass/ firebreath) dragon born favored soul of Kossuth the firelord. Akatosh Crystophalanx is the archetyical firepriest...
Imagine playing a Dragonborn/Half-Dragon Sorceror with a different Draconic Ancestry from the type of Dragonborn/Half-Dragon they are. Could end up with two different Breath weapons, elemental resistances, etc. Could even make for some fun RP potential if they happen to discover that they have draconic ancestry from both a Chromatic and Metallic dragon (for instance, a Black Dragon & Gold Dragon could give them a Fire & Acid Breath Weapon or possibly a "combination" Breath Weapon like Acid "steam" or "Boiling acid").
I am rediscovering D&D after 20 years of not playing and your guides have been enormously helpful to get a grip on the latest rules. Keep up the great work!
Welcome back! I'm a fellow returner, although for me, it's 'only' been 6 years. Are you playing or GMing?
@@BlueTressym Both! I have been playing a character as a guest star in a friend's campaign but I'm working on the first storyline to run my own.
Stop thinking just fireball when you think sorcerer. Think Twin Haste, Still Counterspell on counter fights, Heightned control spells (Slow, Banishment S2...) so many possibilities.
I loved the ideas about sorcerer spells being connected to emotions and memories and causing nose bleeds and such
As a new DM I've been sending these vids to help out my group who all don't know ANYTHING on dungeons and dragons. And these videos are lifesavers! Can't wait for the paladin video
Thanks! We're hoping to finish up the class guides over the summer since they've turned out to be so popular!
I'm playing a sorcerer who got his wild magic powers from being sent to the elemental planes, so he was granted power by a water and a fire elemental.
The way i implimented it with my GM was that he's got split personality, so sometimes he's casting water spells and sometimes he's casting fire spells, he's got 2 different spell lists and swap between them when i roll a 20 on a wild magic surge.
His looks and personality also changes, and he gains the ability to channel the element through his hands. He can deal 1 fire, or cold, damage per minute to anything he's holding, and he can also produce dim light or 1dl of water per minute if he concentrates on it. Thiese effects get's sped up to take 6 seconds if he's just cast a spell that deals damage of that element.
I think it's a super cool concept we've come up with, we also had his body transform into a tiefling to cope with the split personality, but i dont know how balanced it is :)
Todoroki
I started a new campaign as a sorcerer and this was sound advice. I really loved the role playing advice in particular! As a sorcerer you can be very engaging!
when I dmed a wild magic pc I tried to get him to roll on that table as much as possible and even gave him a magic item to make him roll on it more.
I would love you as a DM.
I rolled up a Wild Magic Sorcerer just because my DM wants to use his Wild Magic table.
You have not been a Wild Magic Sorcerer until you drop a fireball on your whole level 1 party 10 minutes into the game. That was retconned immediately.
I have a player who plays a Wild Magic Sorcerer and I roll on the table every time he casts a non-cantrip spell (and if he is under a lot of stress I roll it on cantrips too) and it is incredible. Everybody at the table loves it.
@@joshlapple8429 Yeah that happened to us in the intro sessions of Curse of Strahd. Our WM sorcerer blew up with fireball once, and with 3d10 necrotic damage for everyone in 30' another time. I'm not sure how we survived that.
In an undead-themed campaign, I have a backup character who is a flesh golem, (essentially Frankenstein's monster as a race) whose sorcerous power comes from all of the deceased people she was sewn together with. However, that manifests itself as being a wild magic sorcerer, and whenever she loses control she literally comes apart at the seams. She's adorable.
Currently running in a round robin with friends. Playing a Phoenix Blooded Tiefling. He's actually an educated ladies man because he comes from a city where magic is taught by all magic casters in a master/apprentice relationship. He may not know the particulars of his he inherited his bloodline, but he knows what to expect from it and is supremely, almost arrogantly confident in his skill. It also helps he performs in a circus as a Fire-dancer. Angus is fun.
thank you for maintaining consistent speaking volume throughout your video. i listen to these things while im working or driving so several orators that do not orate at a consistent volume make some things too loud at work and too quiet in the car, so i only get half of the message, but you guys are consistent throughout making it easy to hear and understand you every time. thank you!
When I DM'ed the Tyranny of Dragons campaign, one of my player created a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer with an... unusual origin.
Deron, a normal human studying to become a wizard had his hometown burned to the ground by a Red Dragon. Some time, later he kidnapped one of the dragon's wyrmlings, and used it in a supremely dark ritual to steal its power. This is what turned him into a Sorcerer.
All I could tell the player about this concept was 'That's messed up!'
To make it even more messed up, what if that Red Dragon was legitimately his Draconic Ancestor and the Wyrmling could have turned out to therefore be his half-sibling and it wasn't actually the *ritual* that turned him into a Sorceror but rather being exposed to the flames of a Red Dragon's breath weapon?
Calling a careful and empowered fireball down on your parties position is the closest combat equivalent to the Vietnam war that can be recreated in D&D.
Danger Close. Find a hole, and pull it in after you
Works pretty well if the rest of your party in range is all monks and/or rogues over 7th level though, so they take no damage on the guaranteed save you're giving them.
Gives a new meaning to Friendly Fire
I think you guys are the best D&D series on TH-cam. Your videos are informative, detailed, involved, interesting, and light (but not silly). Well done!
Follow-up: You guys should consider putting the audio of your Twitch content in podcast form, like on Podbean. I would listen to it there when I work, but I don't have time to watch the videos. Just my two cents as a fan. :)
Looking back at this early DD video, with Kelly saying his best character is probably gonna be a Shadowsoul, warms my heart. RIP Sebastian
As I was listening to the two of you talking about potential origin stories, I got to thinking: The Tritons' inherent ability to influence air and water, backed by the raw magical might of a born sorcerer, would produce a true prodigy; a creature capable of summoning forth ice and lightning on a whim, and who would one day learn to unleash the rage of the storm.
I think I know what my next character is going to be. ^^
After not having played since I had hair, and Deities and Demigods had Lankhmar, I am finding your videos so incredibly useful. Luckily my DM is letting me change things around with my Draconic bloodline Tiefling Sorcerer to reflect my learning curve. This video was fantastic.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but quickened spell only allows you to cast spells with a casting time on an ACTION as a bonus action, not any spell you know.
Love all of your content! Just wanted to mention.
My favorite sorcerer from fiction is Belgarath the Sorcerer from Eddings' The Belgariad and Mallorean novels; those books are great inspiration.
“Have you ever noticed that? We base our assessment of the intelligence of others almost entirely on how closely their thinking matches our own. I'm sure that there are people out there who violently disagree with me on most things, and I'm broad-minded enough to concede that they might possibly not be *complete* idiots, but I much prefer the company of people who agree with me.
You might want to think about that.”
David Eddings, Belgarath the Sorcerer
I'm currently playing 12 year old Wild Magic sorcerer, he also happens to share the same origin as Anakin Skywalker...he really doesn't like sand.
I honestly wasn't terribly interested in the Sorcerer but you guys really got me tempted. Your videos are the absolute best!
My favorite sorcerer I had was Tym, the draconic tiefling. Tym comes from the village of Shimmerscale, a village of tieflings hidden away in the Sunset Mountains and watched over by the great ancient gold wyrm, La'allia (Or as everyone in the village calls her 'Nana').
Tym went out into the world to see the sights and broaden his horizons, only to get caught up in a chain of events that would have him enlarging a Cleric to 600 ft tall, fighting alongside a goblin monk named Grundle Punch, and falling in love with the leader of a group of Yuan-Ti heretics as they fought shadow dragons and dracoliches to prevent them from releasing Char onto the world..
I'm currently playing a Shadow Sorcerer; he was a Quarter Master on a pirate ship, and the captain grew jealous of his popularity with the crew. He accused him of mutiny and challenged him to a duel, which the captain won; he stabbed him through the heart and dumped him in the icy sea. The last thing he remembers is the crushing darkness of the deep, until he awoke on a rocky shore, changed.
When he casts a spell, his hair and clothes begin to billow and move as if he were still underwater.
I haven't specified who or what brought him back and gave him his power, leaving that up to the DM :)
The way I handled the Wild Magic Sorcerer when I was DMing was that the Sorcerer had to roll a D20 when they casted anything stronger than a Cantrip, and they triggered a Surge when they got a 1.
Also I personally gave Wild Magic Sorcerers a homebrew spell based off of something from Baldur's Gate 2, Reckless Dweomer was a first level spell that I had Wild Magic Sorcerers come with from level 1 that didn't count against their Spells Known, it could be Upcast and when you casted it you could pick *any* spell on the Sorcerer list of that level and Reckless Dweomer would copy that spell (I.E. 6th level slot is any 6th level spell, but Reckless Dweomer couldn't be used to cast a 6th level Fireball) without fail... but it *always* triggered a WIld Magic Surge in addition to the normal effects of that spell
These days, Sorcerer is now my dark horse favorite full-caster class and my second favorite class after Paladin!! I also now reallly think of them as superheroes in the world of DnD, as their powers are so very theirs.
Me as a Draconic bloodline: "So yeah my dad was a bard and he encountered a dragon on one of his travels.......... he got a nat 20 on the seduction role"
I cant 😂
0:21 that intro had me totally convinced that I am a sorcerer. Not even sure I need to watch the rest. I am a sorcerer. Period.
The best rogue I've made was one with 7 levels of Sorcerer, using the Shadow origin. That grants my mutli-classed rogue 120 ft Darkvision, and the ability to spend 2 sorcery points to cast Darkness and be able to see through it. Rather than taking damage dealing spells, I took spells that could disable foes with Sleep and Hypnotic Pattern, add movement spells like Misty Step and Dimension Door, as well as spells like Spider Climb and Gaseous Form for added utility and movement. Plus taking Subtle Spell and Distant Spell made her even more cunning in how she uses her spells. So taking some levels of Sorcerer can really help someone really bolster up their primary other class as well. One common tactic I'd do with my Rogue/Sorcerer Carmen, is she'd casually talk to the guards like a lost tourist, and as she's talking, spending one sorcery point to cast Subtle Metamagic Sleep to make them fall asleep without them noticing that she's casting a spell. Likewise with Suggestion.
First, I wanna say that I believe you guys are AWESOME..
You're very informative,succinct & enjoyable to listen to.
The statement about racial memory really hit home for a variant race,Thri-Kreen (nomad people) character that I wanna make (Tohr-Kreen=civilized people ;J' ez aka Black Ant) from the Spelljammer books.
They used to have racial memories in 2e.
I'm unsure of which sorcerous origin,as of yet.
Aberrant mind,Clockwork Soul, or the Draconic Bloodline are the three I'm stuck on.
I'm leaning towards Draconic Bloodline for the bonus to ac (Kreen start with 13 + dex mod) & extra hit points. Wildspacer gives +2 per level..
Firestarter and Liz Sherman of Hellboy as sources of inspiration for Sorcerers! Great video series and channel! Dungeon Dudes!
You guys have done a ton of work throughout the years increasing your screen presence and overall ability to communicate your experiences playing or working with certain skills, classes, abilities, etc in DnD I love you guys :)
Gandalf is also a great example, especially for an more experienced sorcerer of neutral good alignment.
Celestial bloodline.
Divine Soul Sorcerer since Gandalf was technically an archangel equivalent in Tolkiens world
Whispers druid, smiles at you... casts teleport...🧙♂️
I saw a fun sorcerer story once. She was a wild magic sorcerer and wanted to learn to control it. So the party would occasionally find clues for making accessories for removing specific effects off the chart. Also recipes for potions that did the same thing but only temporarily.
I'm playing a 10 year old with draconic power
he's cute as shit but his wisdom is 7
Theo Thomas That’s such a great score for that character.
Cuuuute. What does he do?
Clélia O'CONNELL dragon things
And magic things
I played a 12 year old bard once. Playing young kids is the shit. So much fun.
Im trying to play a 7 year old tabaxi wild magic sorcerer. Cant wait
Always take 1 or 2 levels of wizard, you get more cantrip spells and a ritual book you can fill and cast from all day. Also I go evoker for the always on and free careful spell meta magic that is better than the one I have to pay for. Plus it always makes thematic sense that you would want to learn to control your power by training with a local mage (wizard).
Neat idea. I think it's a cool multiclass combo... you do gain quite a bit, even if it does delay you access to higher level spells!
Better yet mix levels of Sorceror with a couple of Warlock.
Whats your build for this?
2 lvls warlock (for the Charisma on Eldritch blast & Devil's sight for the super darkvison) & pact of the tome (gives you EVEN more cantrips from any spell list and gives you ritual casting.)
IT fits with theme too, since you're basically a being of magical might and one day, found someone even more powerful than you and struck a deal with them, to gain even more strength.
Wizard is a pretty mediocre multiclass with sorcerer because of the ability-score requirement and the paucity of wizard class features.
I definitely need to try playing a sorcerer sometime. I think the limitation of spell-variety is what has kept me at bay, but the roleplaying opportunity really is too good to pass up...Sounds like what I'd need is a more long-term prep for what kind of spellcaster I'd want to be, and which spells I'll take and swap at higher levels. Thanks for the tips guys--another banger!
Aasimar and Divine Soul is an amazing roleplay mix.
Nerdy- -Kat129 currently playing one in a revised version of Curse of Strahd, can confirm it is awesome. I play a Divine Soul Aasimar whose tribe worshipped He-Who-Was, the dead God of Humanity and Redemption. As the last surviving member of my tribe after a demon attack, I am the only person in the world who still worships him, and my magic is the only proof he exists. Concept awesome and now I pick pretty much only cleric spells as a support sorcerer. Add subtle spell for roleplay that sometimes divine magic just happens around me and you can really impact the world
Agreed. I'm playing one now myself and it's an intense experience!
She's slowly trying to come to terms with her dual natures, trying to balance the compassion and humility of her Human side with the rigid morality and hatred of evil of her Celestial side. She's well aware that her existence becomes a target for evil entities, so she's tried her best to masquerade as a normal Human and a legit member of the priesthood, but there have been some emergencies when she's needed to use her Aasimar abilities to protect innocent people. There have already been rumors about an angel coming to defend the royal family. (Oops.) One of these days the girl's going to get found out, and it will be glorious. Most of the party is aware of her Celestial nature, and they like to good-naturedly tease her by calling her Lady or Saint because she hates being elevated or accorded titles or honorifics.
I left her heritage in the hands of the DM. She doesn't know everything, but there is a strong implication that her father is a Celestial of immense power. While she wants to know where she comes from, she almost doesn't want to find her father because she's afraid of what she will find. He left her mother before she was born. Does he know she exists, and would he even care if he did know? Was she born purely so the gods could have a champion in the world and nothing more? Does he have expectations of her, and is she meeting them? Is he a pompous, arrogant jerk?
I'm slowly trying to build her into a "servant leader" type, so I'm starting to focus on support and healing abilities while keeping a little bit of blasting in case of emergency. It's difficult with the limited spell slots, to say the least! Thank Saint Cuthbert for the Healer feat! She's actually been a departure from my usual characters in terms of build. Usually I like to arrange stats, skills, spells, and the like so I can be effective in the role I've chosen. This time, I'm specifically choosing everything with roleplay in mind. She has a 20 charisma, 18 wisdom and 14 intelligence, but a 13 dex, 11 con and 10 strength because she's an actual priest, but never excelled at physical activities. Nearly all of her spells are divine. Her acolyte background and skills were based on her character concept of a divine spellcasting prodigy scooped up by the church at a very early age. She may not be the most effective character, mechanics wise, but she's one of my favorites of all time from a roleplay perspective. Her character development has been nothing short of incredible.
I plan to play a Divine Soul Aasimar for my next campaign. First half of the campaign will be focused on social situations and schemes in a big city, but the second half will go deep in combats to save the world from a great evil.
Can you reccomend me some spells? I'd like to find a balance between a support sorcerer and a blaster sorcerer, focusing on the first one at the beginning. I was thinking about Healing Word and Shield in level 1, besides Bless. At level 2, I'd take Guiding Bolt, and at level 3, Suggestion with subtle spell metamagic. What do you think?
@@Reansel Sanctuary is hella underrated, if you're doing support. Anyone who wants to attack you has to make a wisdom save first (which you could heighten) before even attempting an attack roll.
That combo is also good for dipping into a few multiclass Warlock (divine patron) levels. Your Aasimar spirit guide can double as your patron. And your Pact of the Chain familiar can zip around the battlefield delivering your touch-range buffs and heals.
One of my players popped fireball on themselves intentionally to get a big bad to stop focusing them and killed their rogue
Lmao HOW RUDE
Draconic Sorcerer is an instant pick for me. It's been my go 2, since AD&D 2nd Edition.
I'm currently playing a Tiefling Divine Soul Sorcerer. It's an interesting combination to play. The intensely conflict he had is almost literally haven't a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other. His main goal is to find how his race was created and maybe a way to undo it so others won't have to suffer as he has.
Also sorcerers can use prestidigitation in order to heal someone via using it to create a salt shaker trinket and pour its contents on wounds if a DM deems it playable logic! Or for cauterizing!
One of my favorite ideas is a tiefling divine soul sorcerer who's dad made a demonic pact to keep them safe before they were born and the mom prayed for the gods to always protect them
Ok, wow. Last 5 minutes are so much inspiration packed... Oh my.
Did some looking around and found that there's roughly 15 fire spells give or take one or two. You can get just about all the fire spells if you do the whole dropping and picking up spells every level when applicable. You can also pick up roughly all the fire cantrips if you take a feat or a race that has access to the druid only fire cantrip.
It's still worth it to diversify just a *little*, but yes an all-fire, all the time pyromancer would be quite fun!
Oh, absolutely. It was just a fun little experiment. I ran a dragon sorcerer pyromancer in 3.5 so I wanted to see how it would work in 5e.
I’m thinking of making a sorcerer that gets really angry, really easily, and when they get angry things just start randomly exploding.
Maybe have them like a fury, responsible for punishing sinners, and when they see a sinner they get inexplicably angry? I’m not sure yet, but I think it might be fun. Although the fury thing might be a pain in the rear for the dm and any rogues or darker characters in the party.
@@TuckBolt im currently playing a 3.5 campaign in which i play a gnome wizard named surtr. hes a total pyromaniac thats chaotic neutral. i often get told by my dm if you do that youll set this house/mansion/whatever else place you ppl are in right now on fire... my reaction is always the same. i loudly shout EXACTLY! althou i did once respond with the meme "i didnt ask how big the room is i said i use fireball"! my party seldomly apreciates these shenanigans but i think they have goten used to it.
This was incredibly helpful 6 years later! Thank you for all the guide! I chose to make a sea elf, sage. I cant wait to use twin spell and polymorph! These tips were epic!
Distant Spell is my favorite Metamagic for Divine Soul Sorcerous Origin. Casting Cure Wounds at a distance of 30 feet is great.
I'm playing a Aberrant Mind Sorcerer who was hit with a vision of his great grandma who urges him to do good at all costs and originally gave him his first taste of sorcerer powers. He spoke to this figure in his mind out loud one too many times and was locked away. While in prison another mysterious voice came to him and promised great power and freedom. Inevitably he was freed from prison and now my character is torn between his visions from his great grandmother and the ominous voice who gives him power (all the spells you gain from aberrant mind come from him). The two forces vie for power in his mind and now I get to play as Kronk the sorcerer with an "angel" and a "demon" on his shoulders.
Tons of RP potential, great story tie in options with the DM, one of my favorite characters to date.
I love that. I'm actually rolling an Aberrant Mind in case my Fiend Warlock dies in an Out of the Abyss campaign.
Her power actually comes from the Madness that is permeating the Underdark (she's a Drow Descent Half-Elf, so she was kicked from her home).
The must affected her strangely, so she's forever insane and hears voices inside her head, and she now has Psionic Magic.
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I love playing Draconic bloodline scorcerers and my favorite is having a part red scaled human who became the first in his family line by unknowingly impressing a disguised Dragon god Bohammit at a very young age and his motivation is becomming as stong as this "mystery mage" in the childs perspective
Speaking about metamagic, the cool thing about Subtle Spell is that if you use it, the enemy caster cannot use Counterspell in reposte.
Going down memory lane with these class vids. Man how the game and you guys have changed.
My favorite sorcerer I played was in Pathfinder: a wildblooded Sage sorcerer, who used INT for her casting stat. She was incredibly shy and bumbled through every social encounter, but she loved books and was very well read. She aced every Knowledge check
I'm about to start a campaign as a wild magic sorcerer and have never played the class before so I found this super helpful! thank you!
I love playing as a storm sorcerer. The main reason I like storm sorcerer is that they get full immunity, not just resistance, to lighting and thunder damage. And the flight ability that they have is a lot faster and can also used to make your team fly. Also flying through magical means seems to be less tiring than fly using wing like dragon bloodlines so storm sorcerer can basically fly indefinitely after gaining the feature. The RP moment with this bloodline is really good. I have a lot of fun with the background on how my sorcerer got the power.
for other storm sorcerer and other dragon sorcerer that's not fire dragon, you need to try your best to convince your DM to allow reflavor of few spell so you can get the necessary damage type spell that you need. You just need to change the damage type of the spell.
I don't know how you would feel about this, but I think 2 levels of Tempest cleric works really well with storm sorcerer. I would say 6 levels, but I love the immunity to lightning/thunder, and your flying, along with making the rest of your party fly for an hour. That power is pretty much too good to pass up.
The ability to supercharge a Chain Lightning (along with a minor heal spell) seems too good to pass up.
I would love to have a draconic sorcerer with purple dragon ancestry but with the current edition I don't think it would work. Not without a lot of homebrewing, like adding some more energy based spells. The only energy spell I've come across is protection from energy.
This video is a bit older and you'll probably never see my comment, but I love your content.
Dungeon Dudes is my one-stop shop when I'm trying to learn something new about this game. You guys explain everything so clearly, while also balancing roleplay with maximizing potential.
I love it. Thanks again, guys!
Thank you!
Freakin' Qara.
Edit: the current campaign I am joining is very low magic. I have never considered being a sorcerer ... until this video. Perhaps I will try it out on a random roll20 group. Thanks dudes for the inspiration!
I'm in the same boat, I am in a low magic campaign and my sorcerer is the first arcane user in 2000 years. Just to make things more chaotic he is a young boy that grows during the campaign (he physically ages with every level) so he doesn't exactly have much restraint.
Im playing a Storm now and its alot of fun. The lack of lightning damage spells lets you get creative with some ice spells and my DM gave me buffed wind spells to get away with fun RP stuff. I played a Teifling with horns that would conduct electricity. My high charisma was reflected in making the ambient temperature of a room be more comfortable and have a pleasant calm breeze. Then a party member started giving me a gold to act as the party thermostat lol
Hey yall just subbed. I've played one sorcerer and it was subclassed from rogue but the general story for him was he was a mercenary scout/enforcer and one day while scouting for a nobleman's trip he got surrounded and "slain" and kidnapped for sacrifice his latent ability kicked in. Receiving a weird wooden skeleton key(spell casting focus) in his belongings when he came too tied to a to an alter after a party freed him... but he has amnesia of before that and doesnt know what the key is for/to and is investigating it and his past while being loyal to his liberators
A great mystery can be both a cool explanation for why your character has unique powers, and a very cool motivation for them to adventure. What eventually happened to your character?
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Dungeon Dudes , well... I ended up switching jobs and being on an incompatible schedule for that group before we could play that out but I'm keeping the character in the back pocket for another group... gonna have to reroll stats though the DM was very lenient on the stat rolling. 5d6 reroll lowest then all 1s. Might switch to a warlock subclass though for some cool story in-fighting with a friends paladin.. tho
Add the highest 3 on those rolls
Bummer, I would be very interested on how that turned out. How many levels of rogue were you planning to take? I find I am fascinated playing sorcerers and doing as many variant builds with them makes me happy 😊
This video is so freaking good. You guys are so knowledgeable and informative. You're my go-to for building any character. Thank you for what you do.
My wizard thinks of sourcorers, as having an entitment complex.
Wisards had to work and study, to master the archane arts. Sourcorers? Nah, they're just "born with it!"
What about warlocks?
I just figured out a sorcerer i've been wanting to make for a while, A divine soul sorcerer that got his power from Eldath goddess of peace. being her herald he can only use non-damaging spells making him a pure support caster. i know it's a handycap, but i love it.
i love wild magic, i wasn't too sure about it at first, but the first time i rolled on the surge table i got the result that says roll on this table every round for the next 10 rounds. everything was so crazy and awesome. we were 1st level and just trying to escape the drow prison in Out of the Abyss- we weren't doing well until the surges summoned a unicorn, 3 drow burst into lightning, i turned blue, got surrounded by grease, the unicorn started fighting and was able to teleport me out of immediate danger then we ran, i got polymorphed into a sheep, but we escaped. it was the best start to a campaign ever!
I just wonder how someone with this kind of chaotic magic would RP a lawful orientation... "I TRY to follow the rules, but things just keep happening!"
I like how the video is very informational and still keeps your attention.
I just watched The Witcher series and I think I am going to use Yennefer as inspiration for my character
I love Subtle spell. Perfect way to start a brawl without warning, or pants someone without letting them know it's happening.
An important thing to remember about Storm Sorcerer is that you get bonuses for both lightning /and/ thunder damage spells.
So, moves like thunderclap and thunderwave are very viable options here!
My DM wanted me to play the divine soul as our campaign is focused around various religions. This is the first time I've played a Sorcerer and I have been having a blast so far. I'm glad I came to this video though as I still don't understand some of the things offered in the Sorcerer class.
what i did was multiclass a bard and wild magic sorcerer. the bard loved using spells during her perfomances so at time she would roll on the wild magic table :D
i loooove the divine soul sorcerer ! I didn't even realize it was an option until this video and im so happy xanathar's brought a divine spellcaster who IS a spellcaster! Cleric's fine but I love the idea of a spellcaster who's able to mix a lethal amount of damage with potent healing
I want to try making a D&D version of Iron Man. Warforged Envoy Storm Sorcerer 18/ Tempest Cleric 2. Free heavy armor proficiency and the ability to wear it with any strength without penalty. Automatic maximization of any lightning spell with your cleric ability. The ability to fly without using concentration. Plus all the metamagic goodies, and a couple of healing spells taken with the cleric levels.
Healing Variant: Life Cleric 1/ Divine Soul Sorcerer 19. Can also fly without concentration. I would take Magic Initiate or Ritual Caster to get an Owl to deliver healing spells/ give advantage on attack rolls
Hello! I'm playing my first session tomorrow as a wild magic, tiefling sorceror. I'm so excited! Thank you for being the first video i watch to make sense of DND. love you!
I just realized I'm watching this video on its one year anniversary!!
Thrilled for these awesome Class Guides! Starting a sorcerer closely modeled after Scarlet Witch (began with favorite fire spells and realized I could focus instead on lightning/chill touch spells and cantrips depending on campaign) and chose half-elf and hopped onto here and lo n behold, it's a top choice! Love the flexibility and versatility of the sorcerer for players wanting to wade or dive into arcane magic use without melee, and without the intimidation of say the wizard, maybe the warlock, and definitely the bard, for me! Also love the main class features to offset Wild Magic Surge unpredictability, Metamagic is excellent, Fonts of Magic good way to learn spell resource management. Finally, Sorcerous Restoration! Good matching choice of spells! Misty Step and Dimension Door!
I hate that 5e sorcerers have spells that require material components, it doesn't fit the description of the class or flavour the fluff seems to be going for at all. Don't remember how 3 or 3.5 did it and we didn't have them back when we played AD&D, but I think 4e actually nailed them!
I like that wizards who prepare spells need material components, that fits the arcane scholar or book magician type. I also think holy symbols, holy water, salt and earth-type components really fits the cleric or the priest-type caster. But no, material components for sorcerers seems really out of place!
I mean, it's not such a big deal if you prepare everything in advance (buy extra material and pouches etc). It also adds a limit, so nobody goes completely mental with too much power.
Totally agree. If this is supposed to be something that comes naturally, that you don’t fully understand at first and can’t always control then where/how would learn V,S,M? That totally ruins the image of something like Storm from X-Men. I feel like this was a compromise to keep consistency of game mechanics with other spell classes, rather than being true to the concept of the sorcerer.
@@nonbiri6966 My sorcerer has dragon ancestors, so in that case it's the parents who taught her what they knew. For other origins, it might involve a lot of experimenting? At first using materials and then, the more they practise and understand magic, the less materials they require to cast. It's more realistic than just "oh cool! I was born with magic, so... Fireboll! Magic hand!! Magic darts!"
@@margaritatabellini8806 but then they might as well just be the same as wizard since their magic is supposed to be innate as in they do not need any outside source
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my level three assassin was cursed with lycanthropy during a werewolf hunt, subsequent to that but before i first turned, i had my hitpoints reduced to 0 during a bandit ambush. the curse has since been lifted but my character has noticed strange feelings and nightmares.
my brush with death while still cursed with lycanthropy seems to have put me in touch with the shadowfell and left me with a small open channel of magical energy. the onset is subtle. other party members might notice that i don't seem to breath in my sleep (i'm not aware of this), i'm alarmed but haven't told anyone that my heart beats once per minute; i am also cool to the touch (i just think it's poor circulation) and i don't bleed much when I am injured.
finally (has yet to happen) my powers will first manifest when i really need a distraction during a stealthy infiltration and an illusion or cacophony of shattered glass will occur at the opposite end of a hallway or some such. use of powers will make me feel out of phase with reality and take a lot out of me, my voice will change and my eyes will go black.
Why has no one mentioned a BOOYAGH BOOYAGH BOOYAGH. Wild Sorcerer Goblin. Take Chaos Bolt for your first spell, and take empowered spell for metamagic. You literally become chaos incarnate!
Thank you guys i neeeded thissss
Playing a gold dragonborn sorcerer, absolutely love him! he does a lot of damage, and he pretends to be a fire god. the dm hates me when i use prestidigitation and create fire around me and scare the enemies.
My very first character was a Storm Sorcerer Tempest Domain Cleric to much success. I was "wave-dashing" every where, popping off Max hits (our party [Hunter Ranger, Transmutation Wizard, and myself] of 3 lvl 3 PCs halved the Young Green Dragon in Lost Mine of Phandelver in under 1 Round, after we all survived a point blank dragon breath attack.) The damage difference was the Wrath of the Storm reaction ability the Tempest Cleric unlocks.
Tempestuous Magic + Thunderwave is the Bread & Butter.
what about Giant Soul, Pyromancer, or phoenix sorcererous origins?
Also an idea i had was for a Sorcerer for wild magic origins was that he had gotten the aging down effect from the table happen to him so many times that his catchphrase can easily be "I have gone through puberty [however many times it's been] you know nothing of Hell "
Awesome video dudes. Sorcerer has always been a favorite class of mine. There's just so much versatility and nearly unlimited potential for RPing with them.
There's a homebrew ice sorcery origin that I'm using in my game that is really fun. The wizard in my group who didn't know what kind of sorcerer I was asked me if had any fire aoe spells and I just burst out laughing.
Neat! Did you and your group create the origin yourselves?
No we found it online. Was going to go with white draconic sorcerer until my DM found this www.dmsguild.com/product/182163/Sorcerous-OriginIce-Sorcery
@@nieblas112w I shall now be Elsa!
My first ever character was a tiefling sorcerer (still in a campaign with her). Due to her backstory she's usually fairly reserved and lets the party bard do the talking, but has paired up with him to whip out some great traps/deceptions and has talked the group out of 2 fights, one of them fairly dangerous. Such a fun class to play!