I find it sad that Daredevil was reduced to a guest star in his own comic book. It's comforting that Stan Lee helped to bring about a similar character with the creator's blessing.
"in 1963, Stan Lee and Marvel Comics contacted Gleason and Biro about launching a new character under the Daredevil name. Biro and Gleason both gave their blessing." Citation needed.
Hi KillingtheBunnies! I dug up some old notes from this video...I can't believe I still had them...they were not complete and that story wasn't part of it. I do remember being at Mid-Ohio Con sometime in the mid1980s . Stan Lee was part of a golden age panel, and I remember him saying that he had been in contact with Biro and Gleason. The copyright and trademark for Daredevil would not have been available until late 1967-So, they had to get Gleason's permission (blessing) to begin their version in '64. (although I'm sure they began development in '63-that was speculative on my part). There's also interviews with GA Daredevil artist Pete Morisi fuming over Gleason giving the character to Marvel. He offered to buy it from Gleason a few times for legitimate money. Gleason asked Biro about selling the character to him. Biro nixed the idea each time. In one of those interviews, he mentions that Gleason sold the character to Marvel for a dollar. Sorry, I couldn't find the exact citation-but the info is out there.
@@FizzFop1 I figured I should ask since Marvel had a habit of taking the names of Golden Age characters and using them for new characters (Quicksilver, Wonder Man, Captain Marvel)
It occurs to me...a boomerang as a sidearm is not dissimilar to a billy club. In this regard, Daredevil is analagous to other superheroes in that the silver age incarnation resembles for golden age precursor.
Hi Jason! Yeah, Stan Lee was a huge fan of Gleason's editor Charles Biro. If you look at some of Biro's late 1940s-early 1950s work, you can see how it would influence Marvel a decade and a half later.
That they would be subversive crap meant to mold kids minds. You're right. I recently reread the original Spider Man series, and it's definitely undeniable. People act like pc is a new thing, but among certain groups, it's been going on for a LONG time.
The great thing for me about Daredevil is how over time the strip sidesteps most typical comics tropes and blazes a fresh, new way to do a superhero story. It's a little bit mainstream superheroics, but then a big dash of a Kirby kid gang book mixed in and in the end some of the old-school Archie sensibility as well. But even that doesn't quite describe what Daredevil stories really were. Ironically I like the later, transitional stories best, as they remind me more of Simon and Kirby's Guardian/Newsboy Legion stories.
What makes this Daredevil awesome: HE PUNCHES HITLER IN THE GUT, THEN SHOOTS OFF HIS MUSTACHE WITH A BOW AND ARROW, BEFORE UPPERCUTTING HIM....there are no words to describe the sheer amount of epic awesomeness in those two pages
Hi again snakes3425! The first issue of Daredevil Comics is one of the most entertaining and enjoyable single books to come out of the golden age (In my humble opinion).
One of great super hero designs and man there is so much in his history with story potential. Never read a ton of their reprints, but I always liked the Gleason heroes and how they used the Claw to create a mini-shared universe. Yikes, I knew about Jack Cole, but that stuff with Wood...very dark.
Outstanding! Dry facts and third hand accounts are one thing, but the way you contextualize your subjects place in the comic industry, and against the backdrop of the world around them makes it come alive. Thank you so much!
This story is a roller coaster, isn't it? A bit surprising such a popular character could become virtually unknown, but that's the way of things, isn't it? "Time & Chance Happen to All."
It's the fate of pop culture...I work at a university and I see it all the time...my boss is in his 70s, and he makes Fibber McGee references that no one gets. I've talked with students who didn't know who Tarzan or Buck Rogers was...they've never heard of them. Those were cultural icons for decades...and now people don't even know who they are.
I've read some of Dynamite's revival and some of Savage Dragon comics where Daredevil & the Little Wise Guys show up. I've also read a few Howard Fast books and find it hard to believe how his books have been forgotten due to the red baiting of the 1950's. Thank you for this video. Very well put together.
I always thought that the first outfit that The Original DareDevil had was Yellow & Green, not Black & White. But then again, I forget that the pages of old comics then to turn yellow over time, so maybe that's why the colors looked different.
Hi Benjamin, thanks for watching. Many years ago, I was at a comic show and saw a sort a copy of Silver Streak with the first Daredevil that you might have seen. The book was black, green, and yellow. There were no reds and blues. The book also didn't have sharp images. I talked with the dealer and he said he thought that it was printed at the end of the print run when the printing press was running out of ink. Over the years, I've seen an issue like that from time to time.
@@FizzFop1 Cool, Thank you for the info and for replying back to my comment. From what my Grandpa use to tell me, that is what would happen when they started to run out of ink at the end of a print run. They had to use up all the ink they had, or it would all go to waist, because back then they did not have anyway to save the ink that was not used for that day.
Hi Phil, thanks for watching. I'm in the process of re-doing this video...I've also found several more stories about the original Daredevil and Charles Biro which will be added to the story.
Hi Large Unidentifiable Reptile! Thanks for watching! Crime comics was a bar talk about local criminals. That was between Biro and Wood. The communism came from publisher Lev Gleason. People in the 1930s didn't know what all the communists were doing in Russia and Spain. They managed to keep it out of the international press. The communists managed to manipulate the media into thinking that they were good guys while they went around murdering people. For example, The New York Times had a Moscow bureau chief named Walter Durranty who was being paid by the communists to kill bad stories. I think Lev Gleason was what Stalin would call "A useful idiot."
Great series! I was a huge comic fan as a kid in the 60's and 70's. I have no interest in reading them anymore, but I continue to find the history of the industry and the people involved fascinating. the original Daredevil had a great costume.
Hi Tom! Thanks for watching! That's what sort of happened to me. I got started in the 70s and went on into the early 90s when things got awful. I go into a comic shop a few times a year and drop $20. The new stuff just isn't exciting. That's why I started doing this series. I love superheroes and comic books...I especially love reading up and researching these older forgotten characters. It's fun and has given me sort of a new sense of energy about it. The last couple of years, I've been reading more of the pulp magazine characters like The Domino Lady and The Spider. That's a whole other world I've discovered. As for Daredevil...when I did this one...I couldn't get it done fast enough...I really through myself into the research. I wasn't as good video editor or writer than I am now. It's been in the back of my mind to re-do it...and go all out on it.
I have noticed the later chapter's production values are a bit higher, but I think the Daredevil chapter is very effective and informative as it is. I never realized Lev Gleason had such a colorful life. Anyway, thanx for all the extensive research and great info.
You started when? Sheesh, you kids...! :D I started waaay back in the mid-50's with Casper and Wendy and like that; Sugar and Spike, The Fox and the Crow and more; Archie and his gang; Disney and WB characters, some DC stuff...and THEN, along came MARVEL (back when they were good and they cared). Yeh, I love me a good graphic story :) I'm also glad to see the reprints of Classics Illustrated.
I look at this guy's costume and I imagine Matt Murdock going, "DUDE, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY COSTUME?!?" (Oh, and "WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY BILLY-CLUB?!?"
I LOVED IT , BROUGHT BACK SOME MEMORIES OF THE ONES I HAD, WHY DID I EVER GET RID OF MY GOLDEN AGE COMICS, I DON'T KNOW, THEY ALONG WITH MY MARVEL AND D.C. SILVER AGE WERE BEST SELLERS AT THE ALBANY COMIC CONS. I MADE ENOUGH TO SHOP AROUND FOR SOME OLD BATMANS, AND HORROR AND SCI-FI , PLUS I BOUGHT A CAR FOR COLLEGE, AND SOCKED AWAY A COUPLE OF THOUSAND FOR COLLEGE. OF COURSE THIS WAS YEARS AGO, WHEN SOME OF THE COMICS THAT GOT 15.00 TO 20.00 FOR SALE, NOW WOULD COST BETWEEN 500.00 TO 1000.00. ALL THOSE OLD BOOKS, GONE FROM MY CLUTCHES, INCLUDING DAREDEVIL AND THANKS FOR SHOWING BOY COMICS I KNEW THEY PUBLISHED THEM, I HAD A FEW ISSUES WHICH I ALSO SOLD BUT IT WAS GOOD SEEING THE TITLE AGAIN, TO PROVE I WASN'T NUTS, THANKS SO MUCH!!!GARY BAILEY KING OF DARKNESS GARY BAILEY L
fizz i just recently got a copy of daredevil battles Hitler i have all ways wanted this issue its kinda hard to get but i finally found one i think daredevil is one of the best heroes of the golden age he was battling Hitler months before captain america was created i just really like your videos thanks a lot
I'm surprised that Marvel Comics never attempted to obtain the rights to this character. It would had been awesome to have him team with the Silver Age (Matt Murdock Daredevil). Not just in the comics, but in the MCU as well.
It's sort of surprising. From what I've gathered, Stan Lee was a big fan of Biro. He may have not wanted to touch that character out of respect. Biro's Daredevil sort of ends where Marvel begins. If you look at some of the later Daredevil stories, they look a lot like mid 60s Marvel books.
@FizzFop1 Cool! I don't know if your a fan of the ''Netflix Daredevil'' series? But I think it would be neat if they did a episode which featured a character that was a archetype or pastiche of ''Biro's Daredevil''. Of course the character would have a deferent name, but his civilian identity and personality would be very similar. And his costume would be a obvious nod to the (Golden Age Biro's hero).
Great vid. Just in case you ever do another Gleason related video, some of your pronunciations were off: Lev Gleason pronounced his name "Leave" though his friends and associates often pronounced it "Liv". He didn't correct them, but his personal preference is one historians lean toward. "Biro" was pronounced "Bee-row" "Binder" was pronounced "Bender" and not "Bynder" Keep up the good work.
At the end of the Charles Biro section (just before the Lev Gleason segment) you have a photo of Basil Wolverton (and a picture he drew on his drawing board), and not Charles Biro. Otherwise, great article!
Hi Michael T.! Thanks for watching! Yeah, I made a big mistake on that one. I had the photo mis-labeled. Should have caught it...my files were a mess back then.
Awesome...just found your channel...and in the right-hand suggestions column, I see other videos about the Green Lama and the MLJ characters. Subscribed!
FizzFop, Glad to see this series is still going strong. I just uploaded the trailer for my live action Golden Age/Public Domain project. It is called, "The Stardust and Fantomah Show". It also features Black Terror, the original DD, The Claw and The Voice. I'm sure you and your subscribers will enjoy it.
Hey Tim! I'm in the process of re-writing this video...I've found out a few new things about Charles Biro that might be cool to add...also, I've gotten a lot better with narration and audio mixing.
Second video of yours I have watched...once again great job. Very interesting content, good narration, music enhances the video and your editing is just amazing. It baffles me as to why you do not have more subscribers. Keep up with your format and I will continue to watch. Thank you and take care.
FizzFop1 You are very welcome. I almost clicked on that one as I had never heard of her either, then got distracted. Will be watching that one before the night is up. Take care Fizzy☺️
Another I actually did know about, but never saw until my first comic con in 1976. Thought he looked pretty cool, but I was in the Navy and only had about $50 I could spend for the whole con. And that was pushing it. I really love obscure characters, sometimes use them in my pathetic attempts at fanfiction. Usually as characters my lost in time modern original heroes meet. Since mine are in a multi-racial team during the time period, including a Japanese girl, with wind powers no less, right at the start of WWII this often leads to the 1940s heroes attacking first, asking questions later.
Its interesting that all of Gleason's comic characters entered the public domain, Daredevil, The Claw, Silver Streak... But only Daredevil has seen revivals here and there under different names.
That would have made a great film...I love thinking about how some of these characters would have looked in a 1940s movie serial. DareDevil would have looked incredible.
You'd think with all the super-hero movies out there nowadays, some studio would greenlight a script that explores the world of comic book publishers, creators, illustrators, and writers in the 1940s. Seems there was just as much drama off the the page as on.
FizzFop he seemed like such a great character. He already had an amazing look and waching this video, knowing that the stories had quality to them, they were not silly old timey storis for children makes the character stand out even more. I know that Dynamite used him not too long ago, they should think about reprinting the old stories and give him an ongoing.
They've been using him for project superpowers. I think he sacrificed himself in the previous series and now he's returned as a tormented spirit of sorts.
*HOMERUN of A homemade mini Documentary!* AWESOME You Made these- *Black Terror !!* Org. Ghost Rider Im about to Bust Out My Project Superpowers comics from 5/6 yrs ago when they brought A lot of the for mentioned back (Green Lama).
Again nice work, and really interesting, a lot of forward momentum. I think the approx 15 minute format works very well. I wondered what the relationship between golden age DD and Marvel DD was.
gnikcohs Stan Lee admired Charles Biro and copied his style which eventually grew into his own. Lee contacted Biro in the early 60s and they would talk about story technique. It led to Lee asking Biro and Gleason if he could create a new Daredevil. Gleason still owned the rights to the character. He gave Marvel the go ahead. If you are interested check out digitalcomicmuseum.com They have most of the GA Daredevil issues available...and they're free!!!
FizzFop1 --Yes, I know the DCM. I am very interested in Golden Age hero comics, and even love them, but I have to read them, especially online, in small doses. Sometimes you get extraordinary stuff like Wolverton's Space Hawk or Hank's Stardust but most of it is highly repetitive. Really even a lot of the Silver Age stuff, when real universes took shape, I can only (re)read in small doses. There are some mainline exception, more or less, from the golden and silver ages, like Batman where I love Bill Finger's strange artificial reality a lot. And I really enjoy your minidocs even though hardly any of these folks are unknown or forgotten for me. The true king of the Golden Age, for me, is Carl Barks, who wrote the best adventures of all.
Hi The Mr. Pete Channel needs 700 subs! Thanks for watching! I've been writing some scripts for a graphic novel project using the original DD. I call him Devil-Dare. I took this original logo and reversed is...It looks cool. When I get a little further along in the project, I will break it out and show everyone.
My man the Marvel CC Beck history was fantastic. Why of all things DC beat him out of his creation and why Marvel didn't pick up the rights? Always thought that was very funny. Fantastic doc. And where's the music from?
Thanks rtB!!! I purchase the music from a website called NeoSounds (neosounds.com). They sell royalty free music (for film and audio/radio production). I usually buy something called a "loop" which lets me repeat the same 10-50 seconds over and over. The loops cost somewhere around $10 each, but you can use them as often as you like once you purchased them. Sometimes here on youtube, a song will get flagged for being copyrighted material. I fill out the review form and list the neosound permission number and it gets cleared up within 48 hours. Neosound is a great website and has thousands of songs.
On Jack Cole, there was a publishing company that made a comics history book on Plastic Man and Jack Cole that had a picture of Hefner's copy the suicide note 0_o
Hi Alex! Thanks for watching. I haven't seen the note...everything I could find on the subject said it has never been made public. I need to check it out and see if it has been published. Thanks for letting me know about it. I will look into it.
Hated how the damn Wiseguys completely took over midway through the books run its like hey here's Daredevil on the cover but the inside story is just the kids running around...
Me too Eli! Reading the letter pages a lot of people felt that way. It's bizarre that Biro went into such an odd direction with this character and title.
Congress, 1950s: We deem comic books to be far too racy. They must tone it down or perish! Hugh Hefner, same time: Hmmm.... I have an idea for a new kind of magazine.
On an alternate earth in Marvel universe, they put this version of Daredevil on Earth 1298. Pretty cool. marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Matthew_Murdock_(Earth-1298)
Oh yeah GREAT VIDEO just found this channel looking up the black terror and just now remembered daredevil wasn't always the first daredevil but a sort of rip off.
I've seen him as the Death Defying Devil by Dynamite. But I also saw him as Dare Devil in Savage Dragon. That's weird but I guess the rights are free to use the character.
Hi Facundo! This character is in public domain. His copyright ran out a long time ago meaning that anyone can use him. As for his name, I would guess that Marvel owns the name now. That's why Dynamite changed the name. AC Comics also used this character a lot under the name Red Devil.
FizzFop1 alright. Loved that you actually answered. So cool. Thanks for the info pal and keep up the goof job. You're doing it great. Subscribing right now.
In your Charlton Video, you said that Charlton could have bought Daredevil, but created a Ripoff named Peacemaker instead, which Inspired the Watchmen's Comedian.
Hi Conrado...no, the guy who created Thunderbolt swiped the first Daredevil's costume. He tried to buy the original DareDevil, but the deal didn't go through. Thunderbolt was later used as the model for Ozymandias.
Sorry to be *that* guy, but I think Jack Binder's cocreation with Stan Lee was the Destroyer, a behind-enemy-lines Captain America type with a skull costume symbol. The Defender was a more obvious Cap 'n' Bucky knockoff which most people assume was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, so there's some legitimacy there.
I find it sad that Daredevil was reduced to a guest star in his own comic book.
It's comforting that Stan Lee helped to bring about a similar character with the creator's blessing.
Something similar happened to the original Green Lantern.
Dare devil was a clear rip off of batman though, Marvel added enough to the character to make him his own thing.
"in 1963, Stan Lee and Marvel Comics contacted Gleason and Biro about launching a new character under the Daredevil name. Biro and Gleason both gave their blessing." Citation needed.
Hi KillingtheBunnies! I dug up some old notes from this video...I can't believe I still had them...they were not complete and that story wasn't part of it. I do remember being at Mid-Ohio Con sometime in the mid1980s . Stan Lee was part of a golden age panel, and I remember him saying that he had been in contact with Biro and Gleason. The copyright and trademark for Daredevil would not have been available until late 1967-So, they had to get Gleason's permission (blessing) to begin their version in '64. (although I'm sure they began development in '63-that was speculative on my part). There's also interviews with GA Daredevil artist Pete Morisi fuming over Gleason giving the character to Marvel. He offered to buy it from Gleason a few times for legitimate money. Gleason asked Biro about selling the character to him. Biro nixed the idea each time. In one of those interviews, he mentions that Gleason sold the character to Marvel for a dollar. Sorry, I couldn't find the exact citation-but the info is out there.
@@FizzFop1 I figured I should ask since Marvel had a habit of taking the names of Golden Age characters and using them for new characters (Quicksilver, Wonder Man, Captain Marvel)
Long live The original Daredevil .
It occurs to me...a boomerang as a sidearm is not dissimilar to a billy club. In this regard, Daredevil is analagous to other superheroes in that the silver age incarnation resembles for golden age precursor.
Given the costume the first Daredevil was blind too. LOL
Ouch Mike, Ouch.
It could do with out the spikes on the belt but yes it's of it's time
Gleason was ahead of his time! His attitude toward's what comics could be was the same as Stan Lee and Marvel's in the 1960s!
Hi Jason! Yeah, Stan Lee was a huge fan of Gleason's editor Charles Biro. If you look at some of Biro's late 1940s-early 1950s work, you can see how it would influence Marvel a decade and a half later.
That they would be subversive crap meant to mold kids minds. You're right. I recently reread the original Spider Man series, and it's definitely undeniable. People act like pc is a new thing, but among certain groups, it's been going on for a LONG time.
@@michaelmaclane5004 It was done better than, wasn't as in your face, and the creators did not insult their customers.
He sure was ahead of his time - or maybe the times are just the same now ... commies running comics, culture, everything
It's a little odd that like the second Daredevil, this one had a costume change from yellow to red. Interesting.
The great thing for me about Daredevil is how over time the strip sidesteps most typical comics tropes and blazes a fresh, new way to do a superhero story. It's a little bit mainstream superheroics, but then a big dash of a Kirby kid gang book mixed in and in the end some of the old-school Archie sensibility as well. But even that doesn't quite describe what Daredevil stories really were. Ironically I like the later, transitional stories best, as they remind me more of Simon and Kirby's Guardian/Newsboy Legion stories.
No comics fan should fail to watch this channel. Very good research.
Thanks Fred!
Isn't it ironic that the original Daredevil was dubbed THE MASTER OF COURAGE & MARVEL COMICS Daredevil was THE MAN WITHOUT FEAR?
What makes this Daredevil awesome: HE PUNCHES HITLER IN THE GUT, THEN SHOOTS OFF HIS MUSTACHE WITH A BOW AND ARROW, BEFORE UPPERCUTTING HIM....there are no words to describe the sheer amount of epic awesomeness in those two pages
Hi again snakes3425! The first issue of Daredevil Comics is one of the most entertaining and enjoyable single books to come out of the golden age (In my humble opinion).
This would make Daredevil the first character to use a boomerang, earlier than DC's Captain Boomerang.
Emm Batman used a boomerang all the way back in Detective Comics #31 (September 1939).
The more you know. Love learning about these Public Domain Superheroes
Stan Lee had a damned good memory of the competitor's golden-age heroes.
Bill Everett
One of great super hero designs and man there is so much in his history with story potential.
Never read a ton of their reprints, but I always liked the Gleason heroes and how they used the Claw to create a mini-shared universe.
Yikes, I knew about Jack Cole, but that stuff with Wood...very dark.
R.I.P Meatball
love this version of daredevil
Outstanding! Dry facts and third hand accounts are one thing, but the way you contextualize your subjects place in the comic industry, and against the backdrop of the world around them makes it come alive. Thank you so much!
I love these "lost" golden age characters.
This story is a roller coaster, isn't it? A bit surprising such a popular character could become virtually unknown, but that's the way of things, isn't it? "Time & Chance Happen to All."
It's the fate of pop culture...I work at a university and I see it all the time...my boss is in his 70s, and he makes Fibber McGee references that no one gets. I've talked with students who didn't know who Tarzan or Buck Rogers was...they've never heard of them. Those were cultural icons for decades...and now people don't even know who they are.
Thanks for keeping the character going, Dynamite and Erik Larsen
Erik Larsen brought back the little wise guys and Daredevil in his own Savage Dragon title too!
Good stuff!
He's also in Savage Dragon.
Fascinating, a DareDevil before Daredevil!
I've read some of Dynamite's revival and some of Savage Dragon comics where Daredevil & the Little Wise Guys show up. I've also read a few Howard Fast books and find it hard to believe how his books have been forgotten due to the red baiting of the 1950's.
Thank you for this video. Very well put together.
I always thought that the first outfit that The Original DareDevil had was Yellow & Green, not Black & White. But then again, I forget that the pages of old comics then to turn yellow over time, so maybe that's why the colors looked different.
Hi Benjamin, thanks for watching. Many years ago, I was at a comic show and saw a sort a copy of Silver Streak with the first Daredevil that you might have seen. The book was black, green, and yellow. There were no reds and blues. The book also didn't have sharp images. I talked with the dealer and he said he thought that it was printed at the end of the print run when the printing press was running out of ink. Over the years, I've seen an issue like that from time to time.
@@FizzFop1 Cool, Thank you for the info and for replying back to my comment. From what my Grandpa use to tell me, that is what would happen when they started to run out of ink at the end of a print run. They had to use up all the ink they had, or it would all go to waist, because back then they did not have anyway to save the ink that was not used for that day.
Fascinating stuff, great research! These original tales need to be reprinted - the one hard cover collection I have isn't enough!
Great job!! I really enjoy your content keep up the great work.
Hi Phil, thanks for watching. I'm in the process of re-doing this video...I've also found several more stories about the original Daredevil and Charles Biro which will be added to the story.
Holy shit I had no idea Crime Comics as a genre originated from a bar talk about communism. That’s bonkers, but it sounds about right.
Hi Large Unidentifiable Reptile! Thanks for watching! Crime comics was a bar talk about local criminals. That was between Biro and Wood. The communism came from publisher Lev Gleason. People in the 1930s didn't know what all the communists were doing in Russia and Spain. They managed to keep it out of the international press. The communists managed to manipulate the media into thinking that they were good guys while they went around murdering people. For example, The New York Times had a Moscow bureau chief named Walter Durranty who was being paid by the communists to kill bad stories. I think Lev Gleason was what Stalin would call "A useful idiot."
I love how you sell "THE CLAW"'s name, Give him a Lost Villian of the Golden Age review.
Holy shit, this was awesome.
At first I was kind of turned off by this video but by the end I was really impressed!
My favorite Daredevil is the one where he's a blind lawyer.
I loved this version of dare devil my favorite one out all them.
Think about it if Eisner hadn't coined Graphic novel, we could have been calling comics Illustories!
Great series! I was a huge comic fan as a kid in the 60's and 70's. I have no interest in reading them anymore, but I continue to find the history of the industry and the people involved fascinating. the original Daredevil had a great costume.
Hi Tom! Thanks for watching! That's what sort of happened to me. I got started in the 70s and went on into the early 90s when things got awful. I go into a comic shop a few times a year and drop $20. The new stuff just isn't exciting. That's why I started doing this series. I love superheroes and comic books...I especially love reading up and researching these older forgotten characters. It's fun and has given me sort of a new sense of energy about it. The last couple of years, I've been reading more of the pulp magazine characters like The Domino Lady and The Spider. That's a whole other world I've discovered. As for Daredevil...when I did this one...I couldn't get it done fast enough...I really through myself into the research. I wasn't as good video editor or writer than I am now. It's been in the back of my mind to re-do it...and go all out on it.
I have noticed the later chapter's production values are a bit higher, but I think the Daredevil chapter is very effective and informative as it is. I never realized Lev Gleason had such a colorful life. Anyway, thanx for all the extensive research and great info.
You started when? Sheesh, you kids...! :D I started waaay back in the mid-50's with Casper and Wendy and like that; Sugar and Spike, The Fox and the Crow and more; Archie and his gang; Disney and WB characters, some DC stuff...and THEN, along came MARVEL (back when they were good and they cared). Yeh, I love me a good graphic story :) I'm also glad to see the reprints of Classics Illustrated.
I look at this guy's costume and I imagine Matt Murdock going, "DUDE, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY COSTUME?!?" (Oh, and "WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY BILLY-CLUB?!?"
I LOVED IT , BROUGHT BACK SOME MEMORIES OF THE ONES I HAD, WHY DID I EVER GET RID OF MY GOLDEN AGE COMICS, I DON'T KNOW, THEY ALONG WITH MY MARVEL AND D.C. SILVER AGE WERE
BEST SELLERS AT THE ALBANY COMIC CONS. I MADE ENOUGH TO SHOP AROUND FOR SOME OLD
BATMANS, AND HORROR AND SCI-FI , PLUS I BOUGHT A CAR FOR COLLEGE, AND SOCKED AWAY A
COUPLE OF THOUSAND FOR COLLEGE. OF COURSE THIS WAS YEARS AGO, WHEN SOME OF THE COMICS THAT GOT 15.00 TO 20.00 FOR SALE, NOW WOULD COST BETWEEN 500.00 TO 1000.00.
ALL THOSE OLD BOOKS, GONE FROM MY CLUTCHES, INCLUDING DAREDEVIL AND THANKS FOR
SHOWING BOY COMICS I KNEW THEY PUBLISHED THEM, I HAD A FEW ISSUES WHICH I ALSO SOLD
BUT IT WAS GOOD SEEING THE TITLE AGAIN, TO PROVE I WASN'T NUTS, THANKS SO MUCH!!!GARY BAILEY KING OF DARKNESS GARY BAILEY
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fizz i just recently got a copy of daredevil battles Hitler i have all ways wanted this issue its kinda hard to get but i finally found one i think daredevil is one of the best heroes of the golden age he was battling Hitler months before captain america was created i just really like your videos thanks a lot
"Communism Does Not Pay" #1
Literally.
I'm surprised that Marvel Comics never attempted to obtain the rights to this character. It would had been awesome to have him team with the Silver Age (Matt Murdock Daredevil). Not just in the comics, but in the MCU as well.
It's sort of surprising. From what I've gathered, Stan Lee was a big fan of Biro. He may have not wanted to touch that character out of respect. Biro's Daredevil sort of ends where Marvel begins. If you look at some of the later Daredevil stories, they look a lot like mid 60s Marvel books.
@FizzFop1 Cool! I don't know if your a fan of the ''Netflix Daredevil'' series? But I think it would be neat if they did a episode which featured a character that was a archetype or pastiche of ''Biro's Daredevil''. Of course the character would have a deferent name, but his civilian identity and personality would be very similar. And his costume would be a obvious nod to the (Golden Age Biro's hero).
Great vid. Just in case you ever do another Gleason related video, some of your pronunciations were off:
Lev Gleason pronounced his name "Leave" though his friends and associates often pronounced it "Liv". He didn't correct them, but his personal preference is one historians lean toward.
"Biro" was pronounced "Bee-row"
"Binder" was pronounced "Bender" and not "Bynder"
Keep up the good work.
At the end of the Charles Biro section (just before the Lev Gleason segment) you have a photo of Basil Wolverton (and a picture he drew on his drawing board), and not Charles Biro. Otherwise, great article!
Hi Michael T.! Thanks for watching! Yeah, I made a big mistake on that one. I had the photo mis-labeled. Should have caught it...my files were a mess back then.
Thanks for putting the work into this. I appreciate the good work and research
Thanks for watching digitalgsmp!!! I've got more on the way!
Awesome...just found your channel...and in the right-hand suggestions column, I see other videos about the Green Lama and the MLJ characters.
Subscribed!
I've only been watching your Chanel for about a month. I'm impressed. You're almost as big golden age hawk as Roy Thomas and Sqa Tront.
High praise indeed! Thank you!
This channel is underrated. Interesting and informative content! Kudos!
Thank You DC Balangue!!!
This was extremely interesting. Thank you for putting it together and posting it.
Awesome video! Seems like I have a few episodes to watch. I really enjoyed it.
Glad you like them Rudi!
FizzFop, Glad to see this series is still going strong. I just uploaded the trailer for my live action Golden Age/Public Domain project. It is called, "The Stardust and Fantomah Show". It also features Black Terror, the original DD, The Claw and The Voice. I'm sure you and your subscribers will enjoy it.
Hi Richard! Send a link so people can find it!
Excellent video thanks for doing these obscure comics
my favorite video you should sell discs with all your shows i would buy a few keep em up buddy
Hey Tim! I'm in the process of re-writing this video...I've found out a few new things about Charles Biro that might be cool to add...also, I've gotten a lot better with narration and audio mixing.
@@FizzFop1 sounds interesting ill be watching i hope you can keep it as close to this as you can i love it and excited to see thanks
Second video of yours I have watched...once again great job.
Very interesting content, good narration, music enhances the video and your editing is just amazing.
It baffles me as to why you do not have more subscribers.
Keep up with your format and I will continue to watch.
Thank you and take care.
Thanks again Tim 57! I think I am most happy with my Domino Lady documentary. I thought it turned out really well.
FizzFop1
You are very welcome.
I almost clicked on that one as I had never heard of her either, then got distracted. Will be watching that one before the night is up.
Take care Fizzy☺️
Another I actually did know about, but never saw until my first comic con in 1976. Thought he looked pretty cool, but I was in the Navy and only had about $50 I could spend for the whole con. And that was pushing it. I really love obscure characters, sometimes use them in my pathetic attempts at fanfiction. Usually as characters my lost in time modern original heroes meet. Since mine are in a multi-racial team during the time period, including a Japanese girl, with wind powers no less, right at the start of WWII this often leads to the 1940s heroes attacking first, asking questions later.
Its interesting that all of Gleason's comic characters entered the public domain, Daredevil, The Claw, Silver Streak... But only Daredevil has seen revivals here and there under different names.
Great story, Fizz. Excellent work.
Thank You Dynamo001! The original Daredevil is an amazing story!
Great story!!
fantastic video! I see you have a long series here so I will start sipping this fine cup of coffee :)
Great work! Congrats.
Outstanding video! Extremely informative. Keep up the good work.
Thanks TJM60765!!! I'll keep making them if you keep watching!!!
fizzfop1: yeah man keep making the videos! :) ill be watching!
Dare Devil sounds a lot like Batman no wonder it was so successful. Can you let us tell us more on Doc Savage.?
This video is great!
Lev Gleason was ahead of his time - so he he had to be silenced. lol
This videos is pure class, and intelligent producer. fuc*# amazing ! Is the best !
When I was in film school, was going to do this Daredevil! Couldn’t find anyone to do the stunt! Was to short to double (5,5 to 6,4) guy!
That would have made a great film...I love thinking about how some of these characters would have looked in a 1940s movie serial. DareDevil would have looked incredible.
Excellent research and a great voice. Subscribed.
Hi Mike! Thanks for watching! Great voice? My ego might get too big for the room!
@@FizzFop1 Lol. Keep up the good work. I love how many heroes are based on earlier ones and yet so few people realise.
its interesting that in golden age, supervillains were not that common in super hero world :o
most of heroes fight with mafia.
You'd think with all the super-hero movies out there nowadays, some studio would greenlight a script that explores the world of comic book publishers, creators, illustrators, and writers in the 1940s. Seems there was just as much drama off the the page as on.
Best channel ever👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And Bob Wood wow this is kinda irony right there
fantastic info. loved it!
THIS WAS FANTASTIC!
What a great character. Yet the rest of the video feels like a dateline epsiode.
Cool history, but I can definitely see why old school Daredevil became forgotten.
Hi candiduscorvus! They didn't have much respect for the character themselves. They pushed poor old Daredevil out of his own book.
Man Wood and Cole became real life "Crime does not Pay" stories.
this is great I love daredevil this daredevil Stan the man did not start daredevil ha thanks love your work
I did not know of the popularity and quality of the stories of the original Daredevil. I thought he was just some little known character.
Hi Johnny! Yeah, the original Daredevil is a true lost hero...he was a top selling book for a long time.
FizzFop he seemed like such a great character. He already had an amazing look and waching this video, knowing that the stories had quality to them, they were not silly old timey storis for children makes the character stand out even more. I know that Dynamite used him not too long ago, they should think about reprinting the old stories and give him an ongoing.
They've been using him for project superpowers. I think he sacrificed himself in the previous series and now he's returned as a tormented spirit of sorts.
*HOMERUN of A homemade mini Documentary!* AWESOME You Made these- *Black Terror !!* Org. Ghost Rider Im about to Bust Out My Project Superpowers comics from 5/6 yrs ago when they brought A lot of the for mentioned back (Green Lama).
Thanks for watching Anton!!! I hope to have another one out soon.
AWESOME VIDEO. CAN YOU PLEASE PRODUCE ONE ON BRICK BRADFORD AND HIS TIME TOP?
Again nice work, and really interesting, a lot of forward momentum. I think the approx 15 minute format works very well. I wondered what the relationship between golden age DD and Marvel DD was.
gnikcohs Stan Lee admired Charles Biro and copied his style which eventually grew into his own. Lee contacted Biro in the early 60s and they would talk about story technique. It led to Lee asking Biro and Gleason if he could create a new Daredevil. Gleason still owned the rights to the character. He gave Marvel the go ahead. If you are interested check out digitalcomicmuseum.com They have most of the GA Daredevil issues available...and they're free!!!
FizzFop1 --Yes, I know the DCM. I am very interested in Golden Age hero comics, and even love them, but I have to read them, especially online, in small doses. Sometimes you get extraordinary stuff like Wolverton's Space Hawk or Hank's Stardust but most of it is highly repetitive.
Really even a lot of the Silver Age stuff, when real universes took shape, I can only (re)read in small doses. There are some mainline exception, more or less, from the golden and silver ages, like Batman where I love Bill Finger's strange artificial reality a lot. And I really enjoy your minidocs even though hardly any of these folks are unknown or forgotten for me. The true king of the Golden Age, for me, is Carl Barks, who wrote the best adventures of all.
FizzFop1 is this prototype veraion of daredevil sort like
FizzFop1 also can u do Spider-Man please
GREAT!! Thanks!
EDIT That's re GA Daredevil being available to read online.
Biro was hired because he could supply his own pens.
Original Daredevil nowadays is being drawn by Alex Ross and that's how I know about the character I also like the Black Terror
Hi Dale, I like the Project Superpowers series too.
@@FizzFop1 yes I like that line I bought a couple of their comics I like a lot of throwback Heroes like Magnus robot fighter
@@FizzFop1 Dynamite comics shadow and Batman free good book as well spirit and Green Hornet
They should call him King Daredevil or Daredevil King now since he was the 1st DD.
Hi The Mr. Pete Channel needs 700 subs! Thanks for watching! I've been writing some scripts for a graphic novel project using the original DD. I call him Devil-Dare. I took this original logo and reversed is...It looks cool. When I get a little further along in the project, I will break it out and show everyone.
@@FizzFop1 Awsome!
My man the Marvel CC Beck history was fantastic. Why of all things DC beat him out of his creation and why Marvel didn't pick up the rights? Always thought that was very funny. Fantastic doc. And where's the music from?
Thanks rtB!!! I purchase the music from a website called NeoSounds (neosounds.com). They sell royalty free music (for film and audio/radio production). I usually buy something called a "loop" which lets me repeat the same 10-50 seconds over and over. The loops cost somewhere around $10 each, but you can use them as often as you like once you purchased them. Sometimes here on youtube, a song will get flagged for being copyrighted material. I fill out the review form and list the neosound permission number and it gets cleared up within 48 hours. Neosound is a great website and has thousands of songs.
That was great
I gave it a like thumbs up
Poor Meatball.
Very good video, original and entertaining ... I'm subscribing :)
On Jack Cole, there was a publishing company that made a comics history book on Plastic Man and Jack Cole that had a picture of Hefner's copy the suicide note 0_o
Hi Alex! Thanks for watching. I haven't seen the note...everything I could find on the subject said it has never been made public. I need to check it out and see if it has been published. Thanks for letting me know about it. I will look into it.
@@FizzFop1 no problem, I think the book was called Jack Cole Plastic Man Forms Stretched to Their Limits. Thank you
Hated how the damn Wiseguys completely took over midway through the books run its like hey here's Daredevil on the cover but the inside story is just the kids running around...
Me too Eli! Reading the letter pages a lot of people felt that way. It's bizarre that Biro went into such an odd direction with this character and title.
Congress, 1950s: We deem comic books to be far too racy. They must tone it down or perish!
Hugh Hefner, same time: Hmmm.... I have an idea for a new kind of magazine.
Cool video
Knew about this Daredevil,but not the rest
On an alternate earth in Marvel universe, they put this version of Daredevil on Earth 1298. Pretty cool.
marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Matthew_Murdock_(Earth-1298)
Can we please have the history of Air Boy
Oh yeah GREAT VIDEO just found this channel looking up the black terror and just now remembered daredevil wasn't always the first daredevil but a sort of rip off.
Wow.
I've seen him as the Death Defying Devil by Dynamite. But I also saw him as Dare Devil in Savage Dragon. That's weird but I guess the rights are free to use the character.
Hi Facundo! This character is in public domain. His copyright ran out a long time ago meaning that anyone can use him. As for his name, I would guess that Marvel owns the name now. That's why Dynamite changed the name. AC Comics also used this character a lot under the name Red Devil.
FizzFop1 alright. Loved that you actually answered. So cool. Thanks for the info pal and keep up the goof job. You're doing it great. Subscribing right now.
In your Charlton Video, you said that Charlton could have bought Daredevil, but created a Ripoff named Peacemaker instead, which Inspired the Watchmen's Comedian.
Hi Conrado...no, the guy who created Thunderbolt swiped the first Daredevil's costume. He tried to buy the original DareDevil, but the deal didn't go through. Thunderbolt was later used as the model for Ozymandias.
Sorry to be *that* guy, but I think Jack Binder's cocreation with Stan Lee was the Destroyer, a behind-enemy-lines Captain America type with a skull costume symbol. The Defender was a more obvious Cap 'n' Bucky knockoff which most people assume was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, so there's some legitimacy there.
Lev Gleason is a very interesting name. Can’t get much more Irish than Gleason, but Lev?
Hi stvbrsn...I think it's short for Levert? That might be an ancient Scottish name?