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It makes me rly sad when i see
amount of players in The Finals today. I really love this game. I hope the devs will extend their team and they fix their problems.
yeah, their lack of marketing especially is frustrating for me, every season they go with one marketing push, only to never follow up
@@JohnDoe-ph7pz Probably because they can't afford it, iirc many of them are the original team of the good battlefield games.
They know how bad of an idea is to sucumb the the pressure and sell out to a publisher to get monetary help, that later bites you back so hard that it destroys your mental health.
Let embark cook, if you love the game..we all just gotta stick with it. They are fantastic, yall gotta remember that this studio is tapping into a game genre they’ve never been apart of and…they are killing it for bringing an entirely new idea into the mix. This genre is incredible suffocating for games that arent re-releases of the same shit. LET EMBARK COOK.
i love the game and i am willing to wait but a lot of people dont have that patience and unfortunately that will be the cause of the game dying
Took me like 5 mins to find games last night. The game is dying bad for a free to play game. Sucks cause I only started playing a week ago
@@user-bm7mo2ck6r takes me like 1 minute max to find games, with that being said I do live in a popular region so could be a region issue
This is my favorite game and I am so sick of Apex , BF, and COD so for me I pray that this game finds its path. It’s just better than the rest. It takes more thinking and skill.
@@ItsFJC chill there's no real reason to assume anything is dying yet
unironically nuke removal actually made double heavy stronger, kinda wild ngl
But i agree the patches are hella stale, would be nice if they actually made balance changes because they are moving in the right direction but its like at a snails pace and we got a globe to cross
100% agreed. I'd say healing beams and shields are in dire need of a re-work to make the game gun fight focused. As of now fighting a HHM team is like raiding in WoW.
It would be nice if the weapon balances would shift slightly over types of weapons for each class for every now and then. Make it worth for a season to have AK slightly more viable then fcar, next season back. but not that inbalanced that it's obvious, just slightly. We need a constant evolvement of meta.
@@caryuglydon’t forget the triple medium triple defib triple heal beam triple Aps turret
@@Cilotje facts
It made double heavy stronger but made heavy as a induvidual weaker, only making solo q more difficuly
Now that you mention it I realize I haven’t been seeing any ads for the game in a while
I haven’t seen any adds at all. The way I found out about this game was by word of mouth that’s was back in season 1 and I have been playing since and I’m not goin any were I love this game😊
It's like their afraid of advertising or something I've never seen a company so afraid of players.
they just have to do what every other game dev does like apex for example, pay shroud to play the game
Cough Cough rumble verse
@@Duppyboi shroud already played the game
@@3ace846last year I believe
@akavhille4036 yeah this already happened, also somehow people are assuming any advertising is good advertising that is not imo
Pre S2 they were rolling S2 ads on TH-cam, they are one of the first to roll the discord rewards feature;
And most importantly people are assuming advertising is cheap or free when is obviously not; we're still talking about a new studio, if it wasn't backed by nexon low key they wouldn't even have the money supporting it imo
The weapon balancing is the biggest issue for me makes the game feel stale. The way they have been balancing guns needs a huge change because its blatantly not working. Balancing guns by giving them crappy recoil patterns is not da way, just makes the gunplay feel worse for most people and the really good players will memorize it in a week or less.
In my opinion only the fcar and the lewis gun needed a nerf, just lowering the fire rate by 10% would be fine. The other weapons are very viable, it suprised me when i used some like the flamethrower, dagger and cl40. I had decent performance in gold lobbies
@@preyaskhuntia2190skill issue m60 is way better than the Lewis gun and akm is better than scar,
@@tact1calshot989 akm better than fcar? Really?
@@tact1calshot989better, 😂
@@preyaskhuntia2190nope
Embark has been fairly responsive so hopefully it keeps moving in the right direction and they start over tuning some other weapons to make them more viable and shift a meta
The games becoming too sweaty, as the casual player base deminishes, its leaving the sweatier die hard fans to deal with. It would be extremely hard as a new player to pick up this game and not get destroyed constantly.
This comment needs more attention. Soooo true.
@@maxsmith1924 yea its becoming a real problem, a few months ago, i was winning 50% of matches, and would consider myself a fairly decent player. But the past month has been a nightmare, id say im lucky to win 10% of them atm with my team lol.
also it's just cod so pick a roof and a hitscan gun
the finals needs these 5 things
1. Community involved tournaments , streamers and top rank players
2. way more Twitch and kick drops
3. More team customization, clans / team name / team rank
4. Advertisement for community events
5. I believe 1 less round in a rank tournament would be better to allow more teams to have the enjoyment of winning more and wanting to stay on ,
So honestly I don’t believe Weapon metas are what are killing the game every gun has a learning curve I use the “famas” “shield” “m11” and about made it to diamond solo, maybe “cloak” on light needs rework just cause 90% of Ls use it , but I feel what is killing this game there is to competitive advertisement and the finals stated earlier they had no interest in a competitive scene and that’s what shooter games need , public tournaments with large streamers and gamers , a better rank system and the game is a complicated team game like r6 but r6 states very prevalent due to esports before streamers played it more
The funny thing is even if a cheater gets banned.... its only a 3 day ban and its a 3 strike system
i didnt even know that and that could be the stupidest thing in the world
@@ItsFJCnot as stupid as Sony banning me for saying "loser". I mean I guess anyway, they won't tell me what I've done wrong so I just keep doing wrong 🤷♂️ that's stupid lol
NOO. WHERE DID YOU LEARN THIS
Embark are actually so desperate to keep players in the game
a friend who cheated, he was banned for 3 days then made a 2nd account to play ranked again before the 3 days was over
This makes me so sad, coming from another F2P game, Rogue Company, which unfortunately has died now, it concerns me... It's way too early in The Finals lifespan for it to just die out, I hope they make some kind of drastic change to the meta, and to their gamemodes tbh.
I wanna see it thrive
I play the finals daily and only 2 things bother, Heavy is op and cheaters. Other than that it's all good and fun
for me the biggest problem its the player count. Here in South America, you struggle a lot during the week in late nights (when I have the time to play) to find a game, I always end up switching into NA server in the end.
I never seen a singel ad for this game. My friend told me about it. Thats why I playd it. Otherwise I would never even know. Also, there are so many cheaters in this game im to the point I might quit. Honestly, I wish the game was not free so that atleast more cheaters would be out of the game. Someone can just make a new steam acc and cheat again. This game will be dead soon if they dont tackle this
Your 1st point and 2nd point should be swapped, the main reason for this game having a small playerbase is because of the lack of advertising and I feel like Embark should be focusing on that way more. Im of the opinion that twitch numbers really don't matter that much in the grand scheme of things, especially when compared to steam numbers. With that being said I have also been paying attention to the steam count and although small, its clear this game 100% has a dedicated playerbase, and part of that is because of how responsive the devs are so this game isn't gonna die anytime soon (Not saying they're perfect, but compared to other devs out there its clear these guys have so much passion for the game)
Another theory that I don't really see people talk about that much is that maybe this won't be the next "big game", in a sense that maybe it won't pull those huge Fortnite or CS2 numbers. There was a video made a few weeks ago titled why The Finals isn't that popular and although I didn't agree with the whole video, he made some decent points... This game, despite it being one of the best FPS games ever made is not pulling those huge numbers that people were expecting. Once again a part of that could be because of the lack of proper marketing and tbh this whole point could be proven wrong once the marketing kicks in but I genuienly do feel like this game's uniquness is also the reason why its numbers aren't that high. The core gameplay is simply too niche and different to appeal to a wider audience imo. Not saying niche games are bad far from it (rocket league is an example of a unique niche game thats still good), but don't be surprised if all these things you've mentioned in your video are addressed and fixed and the playercount remains relatively the same as before.
It is too soon to judge all that though since the game is still only in its 2nd season and isn't even a year old, and there are other aspects that could be holding back this game (for example the outright garbage content creation around it) but what I can say is that if Embark keeps listening to their community and keeps pushing out updates that keeps the players engaged then this game won't be going anywhere anytime soon, despite if it remains a niche game, or if it becomes one of the biggest FPS games out there.
TLDR: This game's uniquness could also be the exact same reason why its not pulling those huge numbers. Embark needs to focus more on marketing so we can see if this is in fact the next big game, or if it will remain a fantastic but niche game that forever will have a dedicated playerbase because of how responsive and caring the devs are.
Honestly damage buffing most of the underused weapons and toning down the big hitters slightly would make the game feel great, all the cool weapons are super underwhelming which makes players who try the cool looking weapons like throwing knives out first feel like the game sucks.
Yes. I agree the finals is incredibly fun.
I agree the game get's repetitive fast.
I'm happy that the issues are only in markething, that is solveable.
This game has a bright future as long as it doesn't get abandoned.
If I ever quit the Finals, it would be because of the sword, the guardian turret, and APS. The sword has a broken hitbox and the evasive dash greatly extends the range. The guardian turret can basically track anyone for however long. That laser cone thing it has at the front of it is a lie. It can track you if you're 3 stories above it, if you shoot it from behind, and even if you hide in cover and come back out like 10 seconds later. This goes for both the turret and APS, but you can simply pick it up and redeploy it to fully heal it and skip the cooldown. And for the APS, it can block most if not all projectiles and does not have a projectile limit or lifespan.
This lack of balancing for so long has gotten so bad that I see mediums just place a turret and APS together right in front of someone rather than actual fight them themselves. And for the sword, they can literally 3 shot a heavy with practically no cooldown.
One last issue I have with the game is the clear bias for light mains. Just look at the number of weapons they have and the devs nerfed the rpg so that it wouldnt one shot a light anymore, even though it has a fairly long cooldown.
You’re right about some of the weapons but most of them have a recoil pattern so it comes to a point where it’s just a skill issue with the guns. But I do feel they have to make some kind of change when it comes to the meta because like you said, if you aren’t using the “best” guns, you feel like you’re at a disadvantage
Right. Same meta only difference is without the wallhscks(recon) and nukes. Comestics arent gonna keep a playerbase unfortunately either. ( the new weapons skins have been dookie btw especially this new patch that released today) Zen users on console. Cheaters on pcs. Its getting ridiculous. Not to mention blindlessly playing rank😂
Pretty much agree on most points, I hear kids talk about lack of content, it's not that, it's the fact you see the same 2 weapons for each class because they can't balance to save their asses. Cheater problem is ridiculous, patch changes that don't address the first two issues... Fairly sure Nexon has already given up and will be pulling the cord soon considering the lack of real patch changes and advertising. They're just trying to milk a little more skin $ while they can.
Actual point that NEEDS to be stated out is that embark's main focus on content is quite literally new skins and outfits and ignoring quality of life updates or anticheat system, it looks like the only team working there is the skin designing team heck it might even be AI.
The problem isn't shaking up the meta, the problem IS shaking up the meta, people loved beta guns' recoil and using c4 nuke etc it felt rewarding for killing in creative ways, now c4 is pretty much same as breach charge, TF2 had the same weapon meta for 10 years, no rebalancing and the game still going hard, people don't like when they get to love a weapon and it gets changed.
Another problem with the Finals is lack of new stuff, like sure we got the power shift mode but it feels a bit bland and even more of a clusterfuck than bank it, I'd love to see a 4v4 arena mode.
New skins drop like once a week and most of them are just basic recolors, also the cheating problem is just making ranked completely unplayable at plat-diamond.
I saw myself die in this video lol. Great content! My fingers are crossed for the longevity of this game
A lot of these points I agree with tbh. In terms of balancing, at first, it seemed Embark wanted to be quick and responsive, hearing community feedback and implementing changes as needed. But now it's clear, they're just out of touch with their game and how it plays, the playerbase, and gaming as a whole. I understand they're a smaller team (I blame Nexon tbh) but balance changes and tweaking numbers is not a hard concept.
Some devs, sadly, would rather see their vision 100% fulfilled the way they want it rather than compromising with their consumer base on the content /balancing they want. Publicly, I know they'd disagree but based on their actions, it's easy to see imo. Battlebit was the same way. And with a plethora of games, that have already been slow and out for a while, why jump ship to this game if you're going to expect more of the same? Imo most devs are very out of touch with gamers tbh.
The meta right now is super boring, and I agree that the removal of nukes only made it worse. I would love to see a nerf to the mesh shield, along with maybe a LMH role lock. The fact that there basically only two classes in the game makes it really boring
Maybe it’s the fact invisibility has not counter play unless you have a good pc and the lag is the worst kind of lag in any game I’ve played
How can you say the meta hasn’t changed for heavy when no one is using the shotgun any more and not many are using Lewis gun. It definitely has shifted to the m60. Medium is still mostly fcar, but definitely seeing a lot more akm and famas
because the game is still hold my heal beam while my heavy closes the distance until we are all close enough frag out, sure the weapons have shifted a little bit but the whole strategy to playing this game is the exact same.
There were 68,000 players online today on a Wed morning 9 am. The only thing harming the finals are these Doom and Gloom TH-cam videos baiting interaction. The finals is in a great place and is going nowhere, because it has great developers.
Right but the biggest point am that he pointed n that I also agree with is that the meta has been the same since launch besides when the fully needed nukes
@LonelyHollowss Even that's complete bullshit if you play ranked you'll quickly realize how valuable lights are now with the Gateway grenade and the glitch grenade. They've made almost weekly balance changes and even Nerfed the hell out of the auto shotty and the f-car. The Meta is way different than it was at launch. Hell I see teams of Lights dominating in ranked. The real problem with metas is that people bitch until they get what they want and then bitch about getting what they wanted.
I think something of merit to note that you didn't mention is how highly competitive the game is. I think that in itself is a huge contributor to the dwindling playerbase when coupled with lack of advertising, casual players don't want to spend 20 hours learning the meta or the unique gameplay elements. Add cheaters and the ridgid meta then you have competetive players leaving as well, it's the perfect storm.
What you think about new characters with different abilities,,,or passive abilities.
I luv The Finals, it is one of the most fun games ive ever played and i am still playing it until now : ) i dont see this game dying no matter what
The core issue for lack of stickiness with newer players isn’t weapon meta, or cheating, although those things do have an impact. Those issues are affecting higher elo players much more than the general player base and particularly don’t affect newer players as much. The problem is that the game is centrally designed around team coordination and there’s a significant lack of communication capabilities within the game. This is exacerbated by poor skill matchmaking. Im copying my Steam comment on the update post below. The last couple paragraphs are the main point, but I gave a lot of ideas on how to start improving the experience. Developers need to be more sensitive to a new players experience and not throw them to the wolves. When I first started playing I refused to play with randoms because the experience was so unsatisfying. There was even one friend I stopped playing with because they were so unaware of our team. Now, all my friends stopped playing and I’m the only one left, so I’m forced to play with randoms if I want to play at all. Can you imagine how many similar stories there are out there?
Here’s my Steam comment:
Really like the work here, devs. A "few" recommendations for future updates:
- On Powershift, once the platform gets 4/5ths of the way on the defending team's side, it's almost impossible to catch up to the platform for the defending team and it creates a lackluster finish to the match. Consider changing spawn locations for a final defense. It would make the gameplay much more dynamic and allow more opportunity for comebacks.
- Why does it take so long for a player to be replaced if someone leaves either team in a match? I've had 20% of my games tainted because someone (usually on the opposing team) leaves/disconnects and the rest of team tends to leave too. Once players are replaced it's usually too late to make an impact.
- Most of the matches I play have a significant skill disparity between the teams. Please improve matchmaking so that in Powershift one team doesn't have 2 or 3 newer players that have a hard time contributing while the other team is a full squad. I played 10 matches of Powershift yesterday and my friend and I had to carry almost every game going 14-3 while our team mates were going 3-11.
- I'd really like to see weapon modifications. There are quite a few weapons I love and would use, except the optics make it difficult to be functional in high-level battles. I think it would open up a more diverse weapon usage and make games more interesting.
- I've watched many a Medium use the 1887 effectively, but most of my shots don't seem to register. I've had moments where someone is standing still on a ledge and I sneak up behind them, and from 2 feet away shoot them straight in the back and I only do a quarter of their health. More than any other gun (and maybe the sniper long range) seem to have hit detection problems for me and it's a frustrating experience.
- Add a kill feed/replay so I can learn from what I did wrong and what the killer did right. Sometimes I'm flanked and I want to know how I approached my positioning, movement, and awareness.
- Add a feature to save replays.
- Incentivize and enable more team play between random team mates. Create some kind of feedback in the UI that indicates direction and proximity of team mates, and increase score for working with your team mates or staying in proximity to them. When I first started playing The Finals I refused to play with randoms and would only play with friends because the lack of communication and coordination completely defeated the fun of the game and lowered the ceiling for creating a fulfilling experience.
- Similar to the above, create more means of communication between team mates. Spotting enemies and indicating where I'm going/what objective I'm moving towards is nice, but there's so much more that could be done here to improve the experience. For instance, a quick chat wheel that indicates I'm going to stay on the cashout, or I'm going to defend from above, or "Let's defend here and wait"; the possibilities are endless. It would be cool to see a Rocket League esque chat concept that allows us to react to each other's plays in real time. "Great shot!", "What a play!", and other reactions would reinforce camaraderie and I think make the game experience more engaging and sticky for users. Also showing what gadgets my team mates are going to be using before the match would give me a better idea of what strategies they are attempting so I can act accordingly.
- I'd love to be able to chat with the opposing team after a match. I know it introduces the risk of toxicity, but right now it feels too sterile. There's also times that an opposing team member completely demolishes me or has a great strat that I want to compliment or dissect. Yeah, I could friend them, but when I just want to make it a quick transactional thing instead of needing to friend them and then invite them to a team, it's not functional. Plus most players after accepting a friend request usually don't join a party invite.
- Introduce a rematch opportunity. Sometimes a match barely slips through your fingers and you want another shot at a good team. Sometimes you had a team mate leave in a quick cash game and the replacement was late so it was inevitable you lost, and you want to test your mettle with full capability.
- Allow replacement of disconnected team mates in tournaments. Too many tournaments I've played have been sabotaged by a team mate disconnecting.
- Offer an opportunity to team up with a player without having to be their friend. I've played in matches where I'd love to continue to play with someone but don't want to necessarily have them as a friend.
- Make the Gateway grenade go further. It doesn't scale buildings, barely works in powershift to get on platform, and it seems to take too long to activate after throwing. It also doesn't last long enough. I haven't seen it used in the meta too much and is one of the more compelling gadget additions of this season.
Thank you for reading this, if you do. Overall I love this game. I'm sad the user base is dwindling, and I think it's largely due to the sterile nature of the communication/community during gameplay and the skill disparity in matchmaking. Reduce those frustrations and I think players feel engaged and have a rewarding experience. Too often when I started playing I would get ♥♥♥♥ on by a highly skilled light flanking me and it made me want to put the game down. But man, those moments in quick cash where you steal a cashout last second, or barely pull off a win after your whole team is wiped but you set up a good defense -- those moments give a high. Recently for me Powershift has been the best game mode because the teams are larger so I have less likelihood of a comparatively bad team, and the constantly moving objective along with a very centralized area for the opposing team to push objective opens up new strategies and very engaging gameplay.
I really want this game to take off and make it as a flagship of eSports. I'm not hopeful at the moment because of my criticisms in the prior paragraph, but I can't wait to see what you guys do; I believe in you guys. The way you have listened to us, and engaged us, and the experience you have created so far has been refreshing. You are doing this the right way and I hope you all are rewarded for it. You deserve it. Don't give up!
Cheers,
Waiting`
I just use the sledgehammer so fun to use and have been having fun with season 2 im a casual by the way I don't touch ranked mode the mode ive been playing the most is power shift for me its the best gamemode and also love the cosmetics for this game
They should be running ads in a more worldwide sense, living in the middle east the only ad I have seen was the discord quest, and I have been aware of the game since beta through word of mouth only.
Been playing since Beta and it’s still one of my favorite games🫡
ya i agree but the question is not should they its if they can do it at all because of money or for some other reason
The WORST part of The Finals is interacting with the community. When I play it's almost always a blast, and things are always being tweaked/reshuffled. Then I go on social media and it's all doom, despair and endless complaining. It's depressing.
Asia servers are full of cheaters rn. Literally 80% of ranked lobbies have at least 1 cheater in it. The game is unplayable.
I think the marketing is lack luster is due to embark just trying to make finals in its PERFECT form, like you said theirs lots of meta weapons and cheaters in the game and sometimes weird bugs so it wouldent really make sense for embark to really start marketing the game until the game is fully flushed out, if not then people will just stay away from the game if it’s in the worst condition get me?
from what all my friends hated about the game was the class weapon lock and attachment lock as well as no side arm when your coming from other games that allow you to use any gun you like this is a step back now i understand that this was for balance reasons but players dont care about that players like the ability to not feel caged
Even I haven't been playing the game as I feel its just became repetative. Same thing happens each game. The meta doesn't allow for any creativity in how squads approach a game.
In my personal experience I have seen a stupid amount of ads plastered all over the websites I am visiting. Especially on mobile. I think they could be trying to do more about this but they are definitely doing more.
I've been streaming to my friend group on discord and yesterday they all decided to jump on and ended up playing all day. I agree that the meta is a bit stale and playing this game at a high level has to be really soul draining, but I really believe that at a casual level the gameplay actually feels quite varied and enjoyable.
I don't think the game is in quite the dire straits that some people say it is.
That said they do need to take a serious look at their balancing strategy, especially because streaming kind of really matters now for your game to succeed, which sucks but thats how it is
The limiting of tournament money is ridiculous and I can't imagine why they did that, that more than anything will kneecap any competitive scene and feels like a Nexon directive honestly
The limiting of prize money is daft but the limiting of entru fees is nice
i wish they’d buff the KS shotgun for heavy and the hammer their so fun to use but not viable in competitive play at all
I feel we need Embark to do something drastic but necessary, I love the core of the Finals and I don't want that to change but I know it's niche. It's refreshing to play for me, but I know others that would rather play other current games. I feel Embark needs to make a bold move and bring in game modes that could attract a wider audience. Bring in a Battle Royale mode, bring in a CS2/Valorant game mode. Embark needs to decide whether to stick to this path or go on a totally different direction, I can see a crazy Battle Royale in the style of the Finals at least grabbing audiences from Apex or Warzone and trying this out.
I mean the M11 I see gets a lot of use, I also prefer it over the XP although the XP is a lot more versatile with the easiest recoil in the game
M11 shreds up close and I’ve dropped 20+ kill games with the V95. The hip fire on the V95 is really good and super easy recoil with good range.
Those are my 3 go-to’s for light. The LH1 is also pretty good, quite a bit of visual recoil however
Embark has been using half-measures for nerfing metas that never pan out, in any other game, recoil changes have proven to be a terrible way at balancing weapons (makes them feel horrible to shoot to casuals and pros will quickly adapt anyways). Their unwillingness to touch the FCAR, Lewis Gun, and SA12 damage has been painful. 25 damage on a decent rate of fire gun just melts everything because of the health values in the game. Even a drop of 1 or 2 damage (3 for the SA12) would make a noticeable difference to all players and stretch the TTK out slightly enough to where other weapons are viable. Having mesh shield and heal beam go untouched has also created a toxic barrier heal meta that has been a scourge to ranked. No gun can output enough dps to kill a mesh shield, then bubble, then up to 4 barriers quick enough to where heal beam doesn’t have a significant effect. If you aren’t running 2 heal mediums and a mesh heavy or a heal medium, a charge heavy, and a mesh heavy, you are going to lose to meta slaves. Drop mesh shield health to 400, rework heal beam into a heal dart (like tracking dart, 50-75 hp per shot, 5 shots on cooldown) and change the aps turret to catch 2-4 projectiles before needing to recharge (increase radius with this, similar to a Jager ADS in R6). These are all basic balancing decisions that I’ve been holding my breath about waiting to see them come into a patch. This latest patch there was no address about the meta and no balance changes which makes it seem like Embark doesn’t see a problem. This game has turned from an fps into reinhart + mercy pockets battling it out seeing who can use their cooldowns better. With no SBMM in casual play, new players are forced to play against anyone, which often includes high plat players and sometimes top 300 players (not that I want SBMM).
The problem with Ranked is that you can't change your loadouts. They shoot themselves in the foot and don't encourage people to experiment and let the meta change naturally. Come on Embark, it's obvious.
I think the problem is mesh shield, invis, healing beam. Weapons are closer than you might think
This latest update has so many bugs. I can't even access my battle pass. The rewards are still locked even though I leveled up.
Close app, and come back and rewards are fixed.
unrelated but an enemy was called Jason Unbourne
Lmao thats creative and funny
I'm not sure if they'll agree, but here's a list of changes I would make to the game in order to attract more players and change its mechanics. First, I would nerf the heavy by 50 health points and increase the light by 50. I would also remove invisibility and increase the damage of some light weapons by one point. I would nerf the sword and the RPG, and for RPG reducing their damage from 140 to 100. And when u used the hammer, running speed would increase by 5% and in casual modes, I would give the option to change specialization and classes mid-game. (This might be the strongest change, but I would add accessories to weapons, especially scopes. Most weapons in this game are not used because their iron sights are terrible.) A team deathmatch mode without money theft would also be good.
I honestly think heavy needs to be nerfed. I understand that the heavy class is for a tank. but it completely breaks the game, it is frustrating that being a medium it is very difficult to kill a heavy and even more so if other mediums are healing it
i hope this games doesnt die lol i have a strong passion for this game
Battlebit died not from meta, but from the fact that it is highly annoying and the developers have nothing to support online. In Battlebit very small ttk from any weapon and so there players played with all weapons.
the finals seems to be following in hyper scapes footsteps, same gameplay aswell I just a think it’s a niche game style, sad that it’s so little people that enjoy it. it’s gonna be hard to see another great game die but it seems inevitable
It will never die
@@rjjohn2241 thing is it will tho if the player and audience base keeps declining there will be no investors funding advancement for it, so it’ll just slowly die out. Check out hyper scape, same story.
Maybe good weather plays some role aswell, seasons change, ppl go outside
what is outside i never heard of that game before
They need esports and I am going to support them til that happens
I'd imagine it's tough trying the game and super sweats are in your casual lobbies I don't get why majority of the consistent players are not playing ranked. It's odd that all of the challenges encourage this and not ranked tournament play. They make the daily's too easy like taking away getting a tournament win that should be what drives a person to keep playing is to get better play with friends find groups in discord anything but do fire damage.
Make the dagger not ass
same as the throwing knives
make sword not ass, make matchmaking balanced
The main issue is that it’s a fairly high skill game. Buttttttt… I love the game and find it insanely fun. Currently grinding to diamond. Tons of fun. Never seen a cheater once
Yeah I think for a lot of players weapon variety is important. For me I couldn't care less if the game mechanics are fun. I think we're also underestimating the power of a robust teamwork and communication based tutorial. Most people play like it's Halo, get rekt and quit
I see more ads for mobile games than the finals. How do mobile games beat the finals?
Need more guns. Attachments, better skins thst aren’t so expensive
Hit the nail right on the head with this
Game definitely not dying best fps in sooo long I’ll lose all faith if it somehow dies deleted cod and apex kuhz this got my full attention, I do hear alot of people still ask what this game is so a marketing campaign and twitch rivals is fs needed
I wished embark on a successful journey.
Sorry if this sounds a bit rude, but you just took any premise you could come up with and ran with it, without even justifying why it's the only legitimate view.
As an example: The game is free to play, of course the player count will decline after release as there will be a good amount of people checking the game out without having to invest anything but their time. Same goes for the release of season 2. Casual players are always down for something new but usually do not stick around for too long. The main question is, how healthy the core playerbase is and whether the game has a steady influx of new players.
Regarding anti cheat: Riot has not only offered 100k for cheat coders who can expose weaknesses in their anti-cheat but invested an 8 figure sum into the development of vanguard to begin with. Yet we all know that even the best AC in the industry does not offer 100% protection, though blatant cheating is highly uncommon, the finals on the other hand struggles with that.
My 2 cents here: stop being so overly negative, it does not serve the devs nor does it help the community grow in any way if looking for the game on YT just ends up with a flood of negative titles. Criticizing the game for obvious shortcommings or sharing a personal opinion is perfectly fine, just please do not make it seem as if those interpretations were solid scientific facts.
The biggest Problem is the voice Chat. You should have to be in the voice chat when you Play ranked!!
It’s a good thing you don’t make games
i dont think this should be a requirement, but if you could select an option that you dont want to que with people who are not on the mic that would be dif, to make it a requirement would be quite hard as some people dont even have microphones
Why? So when you get 1 singular, additional kill than one of your teammates you then feel having the right to start being toxic af to that person? Because that's what I run into, and why I usually just turn it off. I admit there have been some cool people I have met, but its def the exception.
I can play better than both my teammates 3 rounds in a row, then final round they get 1 or 2 kills more than me and start talking shit. Its wild to me.
And I don't mean you specifically. Just speaking hypothetically. Hate to say it but the community on this game is absolute trash and even though I stream the finals sometimes I have no desire to engage with people most of the time as far as verbally with my teammates..
I think some people do not understand this is a video game lol. This is not real life. It's not that serious where you have to be vile to someone. But there again its probably more a reflection of their true life character rather than just in game...
It should just be like most other games. You’re always in voice chat but you can mute specific players.
@@Ivantheterrible495 lmao if you play ranked then you have to wtf is wrong with you?
The biggest reason to me is the game is too damn demanding. My PC can comfortably run Valorant and CS at 200 fps, Warzone at stable 60, while in this game I cant even get above 50 fps. Most people around the world dont have $1000 to spend on a PC
if ur broke just say so lol
@@jayskee8687 yeah i am. 100%. so are the majority.
another thing that is really annoying and part of the reason of why it's losing players is the gas meta, at first I didn't pay atenttion because im heterosexual and I like to use normal guns like AK, Lewis, M60, or the default Light class weapon, but Ive encountered so many matches with people spamming gas mines, gas nades so much that Heavy without healing can't steal, Mediums without any sort of healing and protection or double healing can't steal it and Light can't do anything, throw a fire nade, you'll see how the gas comes back as soon as the fire nade it's gone, I hate the need to always have to carry a fire nade and even with that it's not enough, looks like having a +10 +15 +20 kills per match with more than 10.000+ healing and 5+ revivals sometimes 10+ it's clearly a skill issue because 80% of the time my team mates are people who never touched an FPS Games or installed it thinking it was animal crossing, seriously, how can you get 0 kills and less than 500 damage in a entire match from the beginning to the end? play cod or something else, this game is about team work but what I like about it is that, unlike overwatch you don't have to meatride your team mates in order to win, you can carry your team mates sometimes and have some fun, but you still need them in most situations, like stealing, he's 1HP, cover me, 2v1 or 3v1, you got a skill or a thing to climb up to the objective, stuff like that
plus Im a VERY focused on team play, the moment they are low on health there I am with a mesh shield, dome shield, goo nade, barricade even body blocking and shooting at the guy, just In case some random throws the: uR nOt plAyIng wIth yOuR tEaM thEn if yOu fOcUs oN gEttIng kIlls Im sPecIal mOmmy
no, Im literally at that point of, what do you want me to do? what else? I killed, assisted, healed, cover, made your way to escape easier, bodyblock, go with you, follow you, help you, revive you, wiped an entire squad sometimes AND WE ARE STILL LOSING, do I activated god mode and kill them from the respawn or what? do I activate a a switch to deactivated players movement and gun or something? I get that not every player is good and stuff but, use at least 1 braincell, that's all Im asking for, common sense
I've massively reduced the amount I play due to the cheating. It's extremely prevalent and I just cba to put up with it. The game is infested to its very core. I've reported people who are blatantly cheating, with multiple VAC bans and over 200hrs played.
Another pain point is the complete lack of meaningful directional footstep audio. Players shouldn't be able to sprint up behind you without making a single sound. It's infuriating. Robust footstep audio would perfectly balance the invis issue.
Diamond 1 here and agree with everything you said mate. The meta is just so tedious~ srly, when will they buff things like riot shield already, damn it. And god fuck those Chinese cheater. And honestly In term of meta change, season 2 is even more tame than 1. Season 1 they just tickle the gun damage here and there but NOW. WE DONT EVEN HAVE THAT.
the discord thing as a means of advertising is wildly dumb imo. I'm not going to do advertising for a company for free, and even if I wanted to all my friends who aren't familiar with the finals would never download discord to watch me stream it to them lmao - I just made an alt account and streamed it to myself to get the skin.
Let embark cook y’all are so quick to hate when it isn’t immediately the best thing to ever exist
Been playing this game since closed beta sure we can let embark cook but we’ve seen them do updates enough now to know if something drastic doesn’t happen soon games toast unfortunately
About the meta stuff.. They dropped the new weapons and ohhh my god they SUCK.
I really don't know what they were doing with that.
Although, I've been seeing a bunch of ads for the game... However it's just been the same ad over and over again.
For me season 2 was a huge flop was hoping for at least 2 new maps and the new guns just arnt good enough there completely outclassed so the game feel really stale atm
It’s a very new game. GIVE IT TIME PLEASE
The meta gets extremely boring to use. As u said theres no chance of winning using off meta weapons, and not just that, u are sabotaging ur team
Love the game my biggest complaint is maps and game modes. Season 2 pass is better but they upped the exp from 9000 to 12000 needed per level. I think the only cheating I've seen is players being spotted outside the map instead of banning them let them play with disadvantages half health or a fart noise when they get near. Kind of find myself playing it less but i still enjoy playing it when i do. By the time we get to season 5 if we do fingers crossed the game should be more fleshed out. we need more modes and levels. Not a fan of battle royal but they should make a map for it might help the game retain some of its player base.
I think one of the reasons why the game is dying is Embark developing another game called something like arc or whatever
And i think it ridiculous! The Finals is struggling rn - cheaters, poor balance (most of the gadgets and weapons SUCKS) and ofc lack of the advertising.. Man, i love this game but i cant understand why the devs doing this?! Isnt it obvious that u cant just release the game and immediately start developing the new one and expecting to first to be ok?... FUCK
Lower all damage numbers by 5 - 10%, or lower medium specifically.
I dislike being forced to play meta or with a team, there’s no love for solo ranked play or feelings of satisfaction, empty
But fun game!
I dont care about the meta i care about my challenges more
This is a half finoshed game, dosnt need yet advertisements...Cheaters, unbalanced weapons, ranked system is a joke etc...I hope they will invest more work into developing things, currently an avarage game with big oppurtunitys, nothing else...
I restarted playing because of ads, i saw them like 100 times
try using dash light with sword, goo grenade, smoke and invis or flash. sounds well rounded right? nope. this game forgot about the fun weapons and decided that it wanted to be cod
now you have to play medium, it's just objectively easy as fuck
the focus on the sweaty tards in ranked also killed the game, there's like 5 of them, don't pander to people who don't want to have fun
Invis, mesh shield and heal beam need a big nerf or rework. may be fun but they're the cheesiest tactics that almost feel as exploits.
Medium and heavy class being meta is also not fun. Equipment like defib, reckon senses, dome shield, and the other heavy shield were meta for wayyy too long
If they can rework recon senses they can rework cloak....cloak is the gayest shit ive experienced in a shooter.
The real reason people stop playing is because there is usually at least one hacker almost every round.
i keep showing people the charts... & they are still delusional... charts don’t lie. no actual good new guns... 3 in 1 season is ridiculously slow paced, especially with how mediocre they are, we've saw them in past games too. I feel like more guns or a gun/gadget/specialization modification system would be highly beneficial but some people hate that for some odd reason... like the charts are dropping, we need actual change... everyone uses the same thing aka "meta" its f**king boring, i just get on to do contracts then i get off, its to way repetitive... it has/had potential... idk what happened... they focus on cosmetics & $ too much...
i think game company’s should start removing cross play from pc and only allow PS and xbox to have cross play with each other because ps cheaters are a joke and can easily ruin rank for games just look at Cod it’s a joke
start blocking people when you report them you wont see them again
Light Sweaty tryhard Snipers that live in their moms basement… that’s who’s ruining this game
It got boring. Same shit, HHM….MMH and a couple of random cloaked L’s with a stun gun.
Went back to playing other games and shooters.
Stop nerffing start buffing shit cuz nothing feel good to shoot now
alot of cheaters 😔
Moving the vaults to different areas would freshen up the game a bit. I honestly thought they were gonna do that.. Pretty simple, and would be a fun change up! For such a dynamic game i feel like im on autopilot far too often
As a casual with 200hrs(only just got to plat 4)
I’ve never encountered a cheater (maybe once) and encounter plenty of players entering ranked with off meta weapons and still kill me with them
Even still, as a casual, I don’t see any issue with “stale meta”
I prefer games that don’t evolve so much. Like Halo back in the day. Just new maps, no new guns.
Keeping things simple so new players don’t have to keep up with changing metas is stress free
the game is boring an unbalanced making it not fun to play.