old housing system was marginally better. you could actually grind for it & optimize for it all depending on how badly you wanted a house. there were tricks to avoiding the placard clicking, too. my first house i got because i logged in shortly after a very long maintenance so there were a number of small plots available with their timer popped. 😊 so if you wanted to avoid placard clicking, log in as soon as possible after a maintenance and race to a plot. plot timers were also tracked in housing discords so you could minimize clicking by only clicking during the prime time period. you could also modify your keybinds to make it all easier and faster. but it gets better because if you were an FC and let's say you wanted a large. but you didn't want to click or wait for maintenance. well if you really, really wanted a large and wanted to work for it, you could buy an FC with a small house already on it for at most like ~50 million gil. then you did sweeps, basically going to all the housing districts you were interested in (like mist and grid) and tabbed through all the wards to see if any larges freed up. you'd do this at the top of the hour to like 5 minutes after because that's when servers made demo'd plots available. you could also get extra lucky and find a really nice house available even after the top of the hour. i got the medium lb41 because i decided to do a random sweep at like 20-something minutes after the hour. sold that later for almost a billion gil. i did all of this a ton and sold houses for gil. there were like 6 months of my life where i lived hour by hour on the sweeps timer, or in front of a placard. i was also happy to gift houses to my friends because you could relocate instantly and skip the placard. like now i have some larges in other data centers where i don't play as much anymore and i'd be happy to gift them to people but that's no longer possible with the lottery system. but best of all, and something that will never be replicated in this game, was the adrenaline high of finding a large plot that's available, rushing to it as fast as possible while knowing just from the plot number what aetheryte to port to and whether it was worth it to mount or not, getting to the placard, and relocating to it. no other high will ever match that feeling for me. another good high is beating someone else to the plot.
Good to know I'll never win a large house because some huge FC with 30+ members and billions of gil can buy a shitload of tickets to give themselves a huge advantage. Even if you work hard and have the gil for it, as a single player you can only do one bid, you need other unique members to make more. Explains why I see so many venues that rake in lots of gil with multiple FCs and large houses. I always wondered how they could possibly get that lucky so often with the lotteries. Now I know it's because they're likely pouring in a crazy amount of tickets and stacking the odds in their favor like no one else can.
Mists was my dream location. Lost to a dude who didn't even claim it. Now it's back up with over 40 bids. The housing system is so awful I legit am ready to move to a dead server with pretty much no people and play like it's a solo rpg just to have a house.
If you have a choice (which you don’t unless they come out w/ more wards) try and avoid Omni wards because FCs can and will be vicious. Try to stick to solos where at least it’s 1 ticket per 1 subscription, and there’s no submarine incentive hanging over peoples heads. Good luck Arthur, I hope you find a house you like o7
I just moved to Dynamis and got a house on my first try. I was the only bidder (small in Goblet but I wanted a small and I like the Goblet). Sure the queues are bad but I can travel to Crystal for group content. But I’m mostly just leveling my crafters right now so it’s been fine! Edit to add: earn your money before the move because the market board moves so slowly due to the low pop.
Honestly at this point I don’t fault anyone for doing it For once in my life after years of playing, moving to Dynamis actually gave me a chance to get my dream Large in Shirogane. Had around 37 bids Out of curiosity I went to Aether to check on a Large House in Lavender Beds and the numbers were like 400+ 😅
Fomo is real for sure, things that are exclusive will always draw a crowd due to that, especially something has limited as a large mansion 3 per division, 6 per ward, 180 per housing district, Fomo is one of the reasons I went so hard on trying to get one.
@@rxtsang I agree, but I don’t think it needs to have draw? It’s mandatory for free companies, and it’s mandatory for anyone who wants to decorate or garden. Having it limited as it is currently just creates haves and have nots. It’s an objective fact that my home owning guild has more advantages then a guild which doesn’t own a home. And the reason the current system has draw, is due to the fact everyone has to fight for a house. People who might not care about housing are forced to if they want thav onion production, or submarines. So that makes people who want houses for, the housing have to fight people like me who mostly care about gameplay advantage.
Actually...can someone explain to me why everyone care so much about getting large house and then complaining. I see many small lots available. What are the advantages of bigger house?
Small plots have 1 deluxe garden, Mediums have 2, and Larges have 3. Larges have the most efficient farming in the game. Which is a feature you require a house to do. A big complaint In housing, a very common one that I’m just learning as my guild is furnishing our mansion, is the extreme limitations of decorations. We spent about 280 decorations of the first floor, and we still have the upstairs and the downstairs to decorate and large mansions only have 400 total decorations. Meaning that most people block off multiple rooms in order to decorate specific areas in their mansions.
@Webweaver Actual Filler Misleading information about house size advantage for farming. But before that, congrats on your large house. Back to business. Gardening income is some of the lowest trash income in the game. Myself along with many others in the top earning bracket making billions, and I am not exaggerating, billions from all things other than gardening don't have time to waste on that concept. The time to turn around gardening into profit is unbelievably long and cannot generate the volume of income that sales of virtually anything else can. People who think you need a large house to get rich are dead wrong, and anyone that tries to preach that larger houses equate to larger income are practically zombies with flesh rotting off dead wrong. There's my comment rant on your housing rant video. Welcome to the large house club.
Large houses give more decoration possibilities, also for people who arent insane with crafting and gathering, etc. Farming (3 plots to use) and Submarines from a FC house provides a good source of AFKable income while not going insane with gil grinding.@@timapple6049
@@timapple6049I mean it’s not the only way for income, that’s obvious- but it is a nice side thing to do if you actually know what you are growing Adding up things like that and FC submarine(which they own) at a good timing is big bucks
@@timapple6049 As far as I see no one implied that gardening was necessary to get rich. Fact is, if you want to do it, you can only do it with a house, and larges have the most. There was no misleading information said. Personally, I've saved a lot of time and gil by using gardens to grow shards for crafting. Shards don't even need to be watered because they grow in a single day, I've never had to go gather or purchase shards for myself because from a few seconds of clicking my garden plot I pick up over a thousand shards. Gardens obviously aren't going to make you rich, but are a nice convenience to have the option to use for the average player.
I would love to care but as someone who has played since Heavensward, this doesnt end the problem that people DONT USE HOUSES. Doesnt matter who wins, they will afk back to their spot and the house will lay dormant like the other thousands. Thanks to auto dem you actually have to visit it for once per month, which complain about because now they have to actually remember they bought one. This of course doesnt matter because if anything happens in the world, they pause it for half the year, so its virtually non existant. Also, SE does nothing about the fake FCs that buy FC houses to either just have it or for other stuff, who sadly use the house more than the normal player becuase they actually have a use for it.
Someone made a joke that we should pvp for houses and at this point im like "me and my WHM lb3 are ready." I am NOT good at pvping but I still feel like I'd have a higher chance of winning xD People have also made the point that the odds of winning should be higher if you DONT already have a house and I kind of agree. Also in unrestricted wards, FCs getting to have multiple bids while private buyers only get 1 bid? Also feels pretty unfair lol.
I would fight for my FC house in the arena of combat. And absolutely if you don’t have a house, you should get like a bonus ticket entry for free or something. It’s unreal that getting the house of your dreams is easier if you already have one. FCs having multiple bids over private buyers is tricky, because on one hand FCs without a house get a distinct gameplay disadvantage. Which is the fault of the devs not giving everyone like a FC crafting bay or whatever that allows you to send out submarines and make FC crafts. So I think an FC having multiple opportunities to get a house is a good thing, but only because so many gameplay advantages are tied to it, and your guild is considered less real if you don’t have one. (Which is solely the fault of the devs, so it’s like, FCs having an advantage is good in the current climate, assuming that it isn’t abused (foreshadowing) since it’s beneficial for a guild to have one gameplay wise (more so than a private buyer) Now the foreshadowing part is something I theorized could be real but though “nah nobody is _that_ crazy” and then people told me to look in the housing ward monopoly and I realized that the problem had already been happening and now it’s much much worse because of the lotto instead of placard spam. some FCs are buying up entire housing wards (some of these solo) just so like 1 guy with thousands of dollars of monthly subscriptions can be the XIV Jeffy B. And it’s making me wanna do another housing video when I’m back on my desktop.
@@WebweaverActualFiller Wouldnt an FC be able to have that same advantage even with a small? Or do you get more submarines etc based on housing size? I feel like they should just make FC wards have MOSTLY larges and mediums (with a few smalls for budding fc's that dont have the money), but I highly doubt they would ever do that because it's easier to just pop in identical wards than to create an entirely new ward with different house sizes. Honestly the whole thing is a mess xD
@@Aitherea So the only difference in housing sizes is decoration limits, and gardening plots. Since gardening plots are used to make Thavnarian Onions, a very valuable plant, if you farm consistently a Large (Mansion) has the best Thav Onion production in the game, since they have 3 Deluxe Patches vs just 1 or a 2 that smalls and mediums have. (And both solo and FCs can garden) Having any FC house regardless of size will get you the company crafting workshop, which will allow you to build 4 airships and 4 submarines, but from what I’ve gathered so far Airships are completely worthless and only have 1 unique thing tied to them. While submarines once fully trained, are Gil printers that allow you to gain millions of Gil of vendor trash. It’s why so many FCs want to buy as many FC houses as possible, because every house is like a million Gil+ every day. Which also enables them to afford more lottery tickets then anyone else. In our house that we moved into, literally all of our neighbors are from the same mega guild. (They’re very nice, and used their multiple houses to make a really cool sky bridge connecting them all. Which is honestly really cool!) but that’s still 2 houses that will never go to other guilds who might be homeless. Which, if the housing system wasn’t such a mess, people would be allowed to do the cool sky bridge program without the moral or ethical considerations of denying housing to other guilds. Now a guild doing a neat house design project in a part of the neighborhood is at least justifiable/understandable. But those solo guys who own entire housing wards (on Coeurl my server! And the new Seraph) should be stopped by the devs. You don’t need 60+ houses all for 1 person, just so they can have more money than the game allows you to have on your character, and all retainers.
@@WebweaverActualFiller It's kind of sad to see even the same FC having multiple houses unless it is one of those FCs that is so large they have to have multiple FCs just to fit all their members lol. I think until we have something like instanced housing or just enough housing to go around, it's just not fair for anyone (fc or solo) to have more than one house but unfortunately it is somewhat easy for people to play the system if they have the resources to do so. Thanks for all the info on housing! I knew a little bit about the gardening, but the stuff about airships and submarines was info I had never learned until watching your video (and I've been playing for 3 years!). Ive only ever been IN an FC as a basic member, and when the new wards got added I decided to try my hand at getting a small. I've only lost twice but it already feels so demoralizing because the longer i lose the fewer houses are available. Like it has only been 2 cycles and that PaissaDB website is saying there are under 400 houses left in my server which is concerning. It sounds like a lot but when you consider the amount of players who play the game and then think about the fact that many of them want houses it really isnt.
A nearly hour long video about a system in a game I've never even played? Sign me up.
old housing system was marginally better. you could actually grind for it & optimize for it all depending on how badly you wanted a house. there were tricks to avoiding the placard clicking, too. my first house i got because i logged in shortly after a very long maintenance so there were a number of small plots available with their timer popped. 😊 so if you wanted to avoid placard clicking, log in as soon as possible after a maintenance and race to a plot.
plot timers were also tracked in housing discords so you could minimize clicking by only clicking during the prime time period. you could also modify your keybinds to make it all easier and faster.
but it gets better because if you were an FC and let's say you wanted a large. but you didn't want to click or wait for maintenance. well if you really, really wanted a large and wanted to work for it, you could buy an FC with a small house already on it for at most like ~50 million gil. then you did sweeps, basically going to all the housing districts you were interested in (like mist and grid) and tabbed through all the wards to see if any larges freed up. you'd do this at the top of the hour to like 5 minutes after because that's when servers made demo'd plots available.
you could also get extra lucky and find a really nice house available even after the top of the hour. i got the medium lb41 because i decided to do a random sweep at like 20-something minutes after the hour. sold that later for almost a billion gil.
i did all of this a ton and sold houses for gil. there were like 6 months of my life where i lived hour by hour on the sweeps timer, or in front of a placard. i was also happy to gift houses to my friends because you could relocate instantly and skip the placard. like now i have some larges in other data centers where i don't play as much anymore and i'd be happy to gift them to people but that's no longer possible with the lottery system.
but best of all, and something that will never be replicated in this game, was the adrenaline high of finding a large plot that's available, rushing to it as fast as possible while knowing just from the plot number what aetheryte to port to and whether it was worth it to mount or not, getting to the placard, and relocating to it. no other high will ever match that feeling for me. another good high is beating someone else to the plot.
Good to know I'll never win a large house because some huge FC with 30+ members and billions of gil can buy a shitload of tickets to give themselves a huge advantage. Even if you work hard and have the gil for it, as a single player you can only do one bid, you need other unique members to make more. Explains why I see so many venues that rake in lots of gil with multiple FCs and large houses. I always wondered how they could possibly get that lucky so often with the lotteries. Now I know it's because they're likely pouring in a crazy amount of tickets and stacking the odds in their favor like no one else can.
Mists was my dream location. Lost to a dude who didn't even claim it. Now it's back up with over 40 bids. The housing system is so awful I legit am ready to move to a dead server with pretty much no people and play like it's a solo rpg just to have a house.
If you have a choice (which you don’t unless they come out w/ more wards) try and avoid Omni wards because FCs can and will be vicious. Try to stick to solos where at least it’s 1 ticket per 1 subscription, and there’s no submarine incentive hanging over peoples heads.
Good luck Arthur, I hope you find a house you like o7
I just moved to Dynamis and got a house on my first try. I was the only bidder (small in Goblet but I wanted a small and I like the Goblet). Sure the queues are bad but I can travel to Crystal for group content. But I’m mostly just leveling my crafters right now so it’s been fine!
Edit to add: earn your money before the move because the market board moves so slowly due to the low pop.
@@FinalFrankie happy to report since then I got really lucky with a medium in the mists. Unless a large opens in mists I'm content 😄.
@@arthurkirkland1419 yay! Congrats on your home ownership!
Honestly at this point I don’t fault anyone for doing it
For once in my life after years of playing, moving to Dynamis actually gave me a chance to get my dream Large in Shirogane. Had around 37 bids
Out of curiosity I went to Aether to check on a Large House in Lavender Beds and the numbers were like 400+ 😅
I think housing is only popular because of the limited space.
Fomo is real for sure, things that are exclusive will always draw a crowd due to that, especially something has limited as a large mansion 3 per division, 6 per ward, 180 per housing district, Fomo is one of the reasons I went so hard on trying to get one.
@@WebweaverActualFiller I doubt something like instance housing will make the same draw as the housing now.
@@rxtsang I agree, but I don’t think it needs to have draw? It’s mandatory for free companies, and it’s mandatory for anyone who wants to decorate or garden.
Having it limited as it is currently just creates haves and have nots. It’s an objective fact that my home owning guild has more advantages then a guild which doesn’t own a home. And the reason the current system has draw, is due to the fact everyone has to fight for a house. People who might not care about housing are forced to if they want thav onion production, or submarines. So that makes people who want houses for, the housing have to fight people like me who mostly care about gameplay advantage.
Actually...can someone explain to me why everyone care so much about getting large house and then complaining. I see many small lots available. What are the advantages of bigger house?
Small plots have 1 deluxe garden, Mediums have 2, and Larges have 3. Larges have the most efficient farming in the game. Which is a feature you require a house to do.
A big complaint In housing, a very common one that I’m just learning as my guild is furnishing our mansion, is the extreme limitations of decorations. We spent about 280 decorations of the first floor, and we still have the upstairs and the downstairs to decorate and large mansions only have 400 total decorations. Meaning that most people block off multiple rooms in order to decorate specific areas in their mansions.
@Webweaver Actual Filler Misleading information about house size advantage for farming.
But before that, congrats on your large house.
Back to business. Gardening income is some of the lowest trash income in the game. Myself along with many others in the top earning bracket making billions, and I am not exaggerating, billions from all things other than gardening don't have time to waste on that concept. The time to turn around gardening into profit is unbelievably long and cannot generate the volume of income that sales of virtually anything else can.
People who think you need a large house to get rich are dead wrong, and anyone that tries to preach that larger houses equate to larger income are practically zombies with flesh rotting off dead wrong.
There's my comment rant on your housing rant video. Welcome to the large house club.
Large houses give more decoration possibilities, also for people who arent insane with crafting and gathering, etc. Farming (3 plots to use) and Submarines from a FC house provides a good source of AFKable income while not going insane with gil grinding.@@timapple6049
@@timapple6049I mean it’s not the only way for income, that’s obvious- but it is a nice side thing to do if you actually know what you are growing
Adding up things like that and FC submarine(which they own) at a good timing is big bucks
@@timapple6049 As far as I see no one implied that gardening was necessary to get rich. Fact is, if you want to do it, you can only do it with a house, and larges have the most. There was no misleading information said.
Personally, I've saved a lot of time and gil by using gardens to grow shards for crafting. Shards don't even need to be watered because they grow in a single day, I've never had to go gather or purchase shards for myself because from a few seconds of clicking my garden plot I pick up over a thousand shards. Gardens obviously aren't going to make you rich, but are a nice convenience to have the option to use for the average player.
I would love to care but as someone who has played since Heavensward, this doesnt end the problem that people DONT USE HOUSES. Doesnt matter who wins, they will afk back to their spot and the house will lay dormant like the other thousands. Thanks to auto dem you actually have to visit it for once per month, which complain about because now they have to actually remember they bought one. This of course doesnt matter because if anything happens in the world, they pause it for half the year, so its virtually non existant. Also, SE does nothing about the fake FCs that buy FC houses to either just have it or for other stuff, who sadly use the house more than the normal player becuase they actually have a use for it.
All the build-up led to this
Someone made a joke that we should pvp for houses and at this point im like "me and my WHM lb3 are ready." I am NOT good at pvping but I still feel like I'd have a higher chance of winning xD
People have also made the point that the odds of winning should be higher if you DONT already have a house and I kind of agree. Also in unrestricted wards, FCs getting to have multiple bids while private buyers only get 1 bid? Also feels pretty unfair lol.
I would fight for my FC house in the arena of combat.
And absolutely if you don’t have a house, you should get like a bonus ticket entry for free or something. It’s unreal that getting the house of your dreams is easier if you already have one.
FCs having multiple bids over private buyers is tricky, because on one hand FCs without a house get a distinct gameplay disadvantage. Which is the fault of the devs not giving everyone like a FC crafting bay or whatever that allows you to send out submarines and make FC crafts. So I think an FC having multiple opportunities to get a house is a good thing, but only because so many gameplay advantages are tied to it, and your guild is considered less real if you don’t have one. (Which is solely the fault of the devs, so it’s like, FCs having an advantage is good in the current climate, assuming that it isn’t abused (foreshadowing) since it’s beneficial for a guild to have one gameplay wise (more so than a private buyer)
Now the foreshadowing part is something I theorized could be real but though “nah nobody is _that_ crazy” and then people told me to look in the housing ward monopoly and I realized that the problem had already been happening and now it’s much much worse because of the lotto instead of placard spam. some FCs are buying up entire housing wards (some of these solo) just so like 1 guy with thousands of dollars of monthly subscriptions can be the XIV Jeffy B. And it’s making me wanna do another housing video when I’m back on my desktop.
@@WebweaverActualFiller Wouldnt an FC be able to have that same advantage even with a small? Or do you get more submarines etc based on housing size? I feel like they should just make FC wards have MOSTLY larges and mediums (with a few smalls for budding fc's that dont have the money), but I highly doubt they would ever do that because it's easier to just pop in identical wards than to create an entirely new ward with different house sizes. Honestly the whole thing is a mess xD
@@Aitherea So the only difference in housing sizes is decoration limits, and gardening plots.
Since gardening plots are used to make Thavnarian Onions, a very valuable plant, if you farm consistently a Large (Mansion) has the best Thav Onion production in the game, since they have 3 Deluxe Patches vs just 1 or a 2 that smalls and mediums have. (And both solo and FCs can garden)
Having any FC house regardless of size will get you the company crafting workshop, which will allow you to build 4 airships and 4 submarines, but from what I’ve gathered so far Airships are completely worthless and only have 1 unique thing tied to them. While submarines once fully trained, are Gil printers that allow you to gain millions of Gil of vendor trash. It’s why so many FCs want to buy as many FC houses as possible, because every house is like a million Gil+ every day. Which also enables them to afford more lottery tickets then anyone else.
In our house that we moved into, literally all of our neighbors are from the same mega guild. (They’re very nice, and used their multiple houses to make a really cool sky bridge connecting them all. Which is honestly really cool!) but that’s still 2 houses that will never go to other guilds who might be homeless. Which, if the housing system wasn’t such a mess, people would be allowed to do the cool sky bridge program without the moral or ethical considerations of denying housing to other guilds.
Now a guild doing a neat house design project in a part of the neighborhood is at least justifiable/understandable. But those solo guys who own entire housing wards (on Coeurl my server! And the new Seraph) should be stopped by the devs. You don’t need 60+ houses all for 1 person, just so they can have more money than the game allows you to have on your character, and all retainers.
@@WebweaverActualFiller It's kind of sad to see even the same FC having multiple houses unless it is one of those FCs that is so large they have to have multiple FCs just to fit all their members lol. I think until we have something like instanced housing or just enough housing to go around, it's just not fair for anyone (fc or solo) to have more than one house but unfortunately it is somewhat easy for people to play the system if they have the resources to do so. Thanks for all the info on housing! I knew a little bit about the gardening, but the stuff about airships and submarines was info I had never learned until watching your video (and I've been playing for 3 years!). Ive only ever been IN an FC as a basic member, and when the new wards got added I decided to try my hand at getting a small. I've only lost twice but it already feels so demoralizing because the longer i lose the fewer houses are available. Like it has only been 2 cycles and that PaissaDB website is saying there are under 400 houses left in my server which is concerning. It sounds like a lot but when you consider the amount of players who play the game and then think about the fact that many of them want houses it really isnt.
HELL YEAH YOU GOT THE HOUSE
And yeah ive been listening to Menphina theme all day
Solo FC with a Medium and personal Small nextdoor to each other. I love the idea of owning two larges but the setup I have is amazing!
and then you eventually unsub for 45 days and it all gets deleted!
This is a pointless rant